pvp

[hot creek]

3 star w11

[elder crane]

Wait 11 gives chips too?

How'd I miss that XD

Yep, with 50 left over, so 3 more sets of daily to 110 all 3

[mental sierra]

@zenith tundra yo, where'd you get all the units to get Amagi to 110 already?

150 from the daily raids, and then?

[vague token]

hard mode but dont complete it

just get the 3 star

[mental sierra]

⚰

No, I meant ⚰ that you were already talking about it

I haven't done anything yet

what do you mean "hard mode but don't complete it"

so you're saying

3 star three of the maps

in one day

gotchu

okay

Thanks brehs

[vague token]

oh, my vanguard got rekt on 11-1 boss lol

guess the pvp fleet dont work there xD

oof

maybe i should just swap the china trio for the boss temporarily

yeah, then i can level pvp team on mob fleets

should be fine

[real notch]

i'm not doing the 3star world 7 yet

i'm gonna try to get sendai

first

[vague token]

true hero

[real notch]

finally got to 11-3

[vague token]

good luck

[real notch]

is sendai just boss node

[vague token]

on wiki says wherever

just has a check

[real notch]

okok

just wanted to 2x check

cus wiki is wrong sometimes

[vague token]

xD

did they fix sheffield's skill description on EN yet

[real notch]

i think so

[vague token]

oh, it's actually the jihads killing me on auto

they do 1500

or 1k

somewhere around there

[brittle hill]

so this prototype 203, is it only good on HE skill ships like atago

or can i use it on ships like minne

[vague token]

dont use it in pve of course

but since we're in light armor meta

it's better than the prinz gun

[brittle hill]

don't use it in pve?

[ionic magnet]

HE gun is still the better CA gun for general use

[leaden sequoia]

I was told that pve enemies are mostly light armor too, so HE guns should be a good pick there too?

[vague token]

i thought the piercing is more useful, double the damage double the fun?

like even on auto it should be fine given enemy saturation

?_?

[ionic magnet]

it looks good in theory but it rarely hits twice unless you manual and even then,its still hard to get the right angles

[leaden sequoia]

enemies are sparse enough for piercing to not work in a lot of cases, especially after some boats from a wave are down

[vague token]

[brittle hill]

ok

i just used it on minne

HE fucking hits like a truck

[modern tree]

preference for a CA gun largely depends on where you bring it. HE is faster tho so if a boat has good barrage, which is the tako and deutschland class, the gun is pretty increadible

[ionic magnet]

hmm its tempting to buy the core shop CA gun

but i must resist for rainbow dildo

[vague token]

GIVE IN jk

/already bought it

to be fair, im using port kai

im justified

definitely a good reason

[zenith tundra]

the only place i found so far (i dont use ca much) where u can clearly see the difference in damage in between 203 mounted vs skc was winter crown d maps. elsewhere i didnt notice the difference almost at all

[modern tree]

skc is better at crushing characters unless you are at like w6, but you generally have backline for that so HE is better auto gun

[zenith tundra]

as i said from personal testing never really saw a big difference in damage in between them to clearly say 203 mounted>>skc

how much better and in what world?

i only used minne in w10 and hated mounted

well whatever i dont use ca eitherway for now

i feel like it does perform better but against target that don't really matter since only enemies that have hp and u need damage are the ones with medium/heavy armor

[vague token]

ill try it out for a bit

[zenith tundra]

just go with he is better and hope ur tirpitz doesnt shoot a random light armor boat instead of the bb u need to kill

[vague token]

kek

[hot creek]

so does FW actually have some advantage over foxes now because of extra uncap AA or is this just weird speculation?

an extra 16 AA from that doesnt seem like much....

[random vault]

they just more thicc

[hot creek]

I mean, you could just equip an AA radar for an extra 70 AA if you really want to tech against foxes.

[random vault]

i dont think akaga will be at a disadvantage but i have no example to prove this

[sharp obsidian]

Is there code or a link to the latest PvP Tier List in CN / JP? 😃

[modern tree]

There isn't

they are still trying to figure out why Warspite Kai exists

[vague token]

because pvp is casual

just speed up the farm

[shy hazel]

ws kai actually made pvp slower

👀

more ppl started using bbs with bunny

that takes tine to koll than foxes

[random vault]

its not like foxes is actually dead is it 👀

[idle python]

Meta started getting slow ever since amagi for cn and jp

[random vault]

just need to reset more

[vague token]

oh, i didnt mean clear time

i just mean like

speed kill 1 ship

[modern tree]

If you just wanna know what people run on the regions with ships besides slapping WS on everything, this should be pretty accurate? This or Panda's guide should have more or less the ships that people tend to gravitate to for pvp

[vague token]

doge best ship

[idle python]

There's a 2.2 version but don't feel like looking it up

It has warskai in it

Except they made it with qe flag

[modern tree]

CN is pretty bad at making tier lists

[zenith tundra]

@hot creek i think wasd will be better then now because fights are longer but ur still using bbs which tend to be unreliable at times

[modern tree]

I'd dig the latest version out, but I find their resources hard to navigate when I am falling alseep

[random vault]

bbs still rely on skill proc

akaga doesnt

[modern tree]

thats new

I thought that akaga either relies on hood barrage, amagi barrage or nagato barrage

sure, they can function without it, but so can wasd

[zenith tundra]

i literaly hard lost a match with wasda against foxes and next fight i hard won without any apparent reason

i dont think nakaga ever relied on nagato 40% barrage for much

[modern tree]

thats how you win/lose mirror

[zenith tundra]

well mirror is mirror

[random vault]

if anything the only rng part abt akaga is how much of their airstrike lands on enemy vanguard

[modern tree]

jp was nothing but mirror for a good long while

[vague token]

actually i find the rng part to be the torp bomb positions

"does it dodge my vanguard and proc final counter too early" xD

reee

[random vault]

its gonna be interesting if we get hiryuukai before nagato

though i doubt thatll happen

[zenith tundra]

i think retros are the one thing they are going really slow with or at least same pace as other servers

[random vault]

i wish they rushed those so that i have more avenues to burn my coins

[hot creek]

I kinda wanna break my HMS ships first but they don't have any xp, except hood

[zenith tundra]

also nakaga mirror was won by using faster planes then bis. not sure how that is a good match to say anything

[buoyant parrot]

hooooooowdy hardcoooooor PvPiers~

[zenith tundra]

with amakaga still around id pick wasd for higher aa then hms. but hms is better overall

[random vault]

hows dork doing in hms pvp

i rarely see hms in sandy pvp now, so i barely can see how she performs

[zenith tundra]

16 pts behind top players doesn't feel good @buoyant parrot

even avrora doesn't have many good hms in defense

[vague token]

dork is greaaat

(for my team)

since hiryuu's solo strike damage is a little eh compared to foxes and owari da

i use the 406 on dork to help her boost a bit

and i use sirius

outside of that no idea

xD

[zenith tundra]

the hardest part about dork in hms is to reliably use her debuff. guess using cv is a better way then bbs

[vague token]

yeah, and her barrage helps keep up some pressure

[zenith tundra]

but she hits pretty hard so its not really needed

[vague token]

not a ton

but it's a bit

helps confirm the bottom kill against foxes

since amagi can get rng trolled by pearl timing

for me

[buoyant parrot]

lol

btw what do you consider HMS God Defense? I could probably do that with all the gears and 200 Affection Warspite and QE

[vague token]

xD

actually good question

[zenith tundra]

doy qe hood should still be better then ws qe hood

[buoyant parrot]

just let me know I'll set it up for you guys to see and test

[zenith tundra]

not sure about ws doy hood

[buoyant parrot]

what about Vanguards?

[vague token]

belfast/juneau/x?

[zenith tundra]

belfast jesus sheffield

[buoyant parrot]

hmmm why Shef?

[zenith tundra]

on offense at least

[buoyant parrot]

and my Sheff isn't 200 Affection

[vague token]

he specifically mentioned defense

xD

[zenith tundra]

she help ur vg not get murdered by akaga

[buoyant parrot]

Defense for you guys to test

[vague token]

sheff is a 15% damage reduction on average

but sometimes you'll negate a bb gun or the 2k bomb

instead of the wimpy stuff

so rng is fun

or a crit torp

xD

[buoyant parrot]

you guys want me to Oath Shef for testing purposes?

[zenith tundra]

not sure if u want jesus to die early or not on defense with hms because of the bad aa

[buoyant parrot]

just tell me which Main and Vanguard I'll build it up as a Project

if you see in my role I'm on Royal Navy

and it sucks I'm using USS

[vague token]

xD

[edgy jetty]

How to get 13K WASDE line up ?

[buoyant parrot]

Gears and Max Affection

No go gears go home

[zenith tundra]

just lvl 110 now is enough with good gear

[buoyant parrot]

not even on 110 if you have propper gears you can be 13.6 like mine 😂

I'd probably hit 13.8 or 9 by the time I level mine to 110

[edgy jetty]

you can't have all gold item for Washi

[zenith tundra]

my amakaga is now at 13.1k bis

[buoyant parrot]

I'm on 13.6 with my WASD

[edgy jetty]

item list please

[buoyant parrot]

2 SD Radar

381 with Amagi

[random vault]

butbut gold meme bb guns

[buoyant parrot]

leave Wash weapon alone shes good with the T3 purple

[zenith tundra]

406/410 twin gold 127, gold aa and sg radar x2 on washi and sg radar beaver on sd

[edgy jetty]

can u give me a screen shot, T3 fire control ?

[buoyant parrot]

No firecontrol

this is PvP

not PvE -_-

you don't die on fire you die on SHELLS or Planes

same gears for SoDak

[edgy jetty]

got that for South dakota but for washi ? that fire tower is limited to 1 right so how about for washi ?

[buoyant parrot]

Washington same gears aswell except for the T3 406

use 2 SD Radar

[edgy jetty]

ok. for big E is SBC-2 good or All gold planes ?

[zenith tundra]

vf-17 sb2c barracuda

[buoyant parrot]

Im soon to decommission my WASD Fleet changing over to HMS so I'm sharing my fleet equips

[zenith tundra]

i have to remove my wasd equip just for w11

[buoyant parrot]

^ same

[edgy jetty]

dang i need to farm for Kaga LOL

[buoyant parrot]

the map is so stupidly annoying

[edgy jetty]

didn't have her since the begining

too lazy to farm for fox hell TT_TT

[buoyant parrot]

I went there to farm tool box not fox

and got a bajillion kaga and akagi

[edgy jetty]

dang it RNG is REAL

[zenith tundra]

i was never into foxes till i got em and never really changed them in pvp since then

[buoyant parrot]

I want unlimited stocks of tool box

[edgy jetty]

but WTH got jintsuu & Niizuki while clearing 3 star LOL took me like 3K oil just to get both

i need KAGA more than Jintsuu

[buoyant parrot]

just farm tool box

aside that you'll need them forever

the more tool box you have the better

and also Kaga is a bonus

[zenith tundra]

if i want toolboxes id rather open all the t3 boxes i have... they aren't many uses for the boxes

[buoyant parrot]

I have none all the time

😂

that explains my Fleet Power rank

[zenith tundra]

lol

[buoyant parrot]

now I'm torn between Hood and Amagi if I'm going HMS

I like Amagi so much

[zenith tundra]

qe buff shild be still better because of vg

[buoyant parrot]

go on tell me moar to change my mind

[zenith tundra]

acrually never tried with qe dork amagi...

[buoyant parrot]

hmmm that sounds NICE

[zenith tundra]

and my amagi is already 110 so its not a fair comparasion with hood anymore

[buoyant parrot]

oh

so do you want me to go Hood Instead to test?

I don't mind

[random vault]

i know a guy who used hood amagi doy

[zenith tundra]

idk if amagi is any better then hood mostly because her bad aa that doesnt help hms considering that hood is the only one with decent aa

[buoyant parrot]

well I think Hood will shine more coz of QE

[zenith tundra]

u pretty much end up with a ultra weak aa team

amagi and hood in same comp also isnt that great because they focus different targets

and in current meta u want to snipe a fox

[random vault]

snipe 2 foxes

[buoyant parrot]

What I go QE Amagi and Hood?

[zenith tundra]

amagi on enemy team makes it hard tho

[buoyant parrot]

that doesn't sound right tho

[vague token]

hood can usually kill with 2 barrages and some splash from someone else

although amagi can do that too

xD

381 is godlike

[zenith tundra]

doy amagi hood but not sure if amagi is worth over qe because of vg

[buoyant parrot]

gaaaaaaah why are you guys making it hard for me to go HMS I'm so confuse now

[zenith tundra]

the best comp should be doy qe hood no matter what at least at 100 it was

[buoyant parrot]

okay then, Will go with QE Hood and Dork

Vanguards is Belfast Shef and Jesus

is that right?

[zenith tundra]

that should be right

[buoyant parrot]

If so I'll Oath Shef later

[empty sinew]

lvl advantage also affects barrages yeh?

[buoyant parrot]

yeah

so where is Dork Positioned? Center?

coz I'm sure Hood should be on top

[zenith tundra]

level bonus more real then attacker bonus lol

hood bottom because she can tank torp bombers

[empty sinew]

[buoyant parrot]

ohh okay

then QE on top

[zenith tundra]

doy top for synergi with hood

[buoyant parrot]

got it

[zenith tundra]

so her barrage goes on same target as hood

[buoyant parrot]

its a Project then

should make a name for this Operation

[zenith tundra]

waiting for monarch sound good

[vague token]

heh

[red nexus]

Shouldn't hood be middle because of hetr barrage?

[hot creek]

operation "raise an HMS fleet and be dissapointed by the results because you're in amagi meta."

[zenith tundra]

u want to use hood to snipe a fox so u use her for that

[buoyant parrot]

definitely and that is why I'm on Royal Navy coz of Monarch

and Awakened Warspite

[red nexus]

My akagi and kaga are paper ships, what can i do against that?

[buoyant parrot]

@red nexus nothing

[hot creek]

kill them before they kill you

[buoyant parrot]

they are simply built as that. What you want to improve is their Damage

[vague token]

nothing, murder enemies first with 20% advantage

[zenith tundra]

use amagi if u have her or just wait for nagato @red nexus

[empty sinew]

put a toolkit on them

[red nexus]

My amagi is only 90, so i use

[zenith tundra]

raise amagi then

[red nexus]

Is it worth dropping the bulins on her?

[buoyant parrot]

Amagi?

Definitely man...

She is on par with Hood

[red nexus]

Well then, i guess

[zenith tundra]

amagi is one of the best bb/c in the game both pve and pvp

[red nexus]

My 1st fleet is becoming my second fleet

Poor enty, zepp, tirpitz...

[vague token]

amagi gets more useful the more damage you eat

unlike hood who is just team dps boost

[hot creek]

she's better than Hood. but don't say that around Daxam

[vague token]

kek

[red nexus]

I usally used enty because she lives pretty long and dishes out some serious damage

[buoyant parrot]

OI! that is something I wanted to hear coz I'm going HMS Fleet now lol

[red nexus]

I still want washington for wasd

[vague token]

dear god what is this owari da with aim torps

time to negate all of her damage

[buoyant parrot]

Historically does QE have a Retro?

[zenith tundra]

idk

can't wait to try out wasda at 110. might be next best comp for a while in amakaga meta

but wasd is so low in my awaken list

[buoyant parrot]

but im tired using that and I'm sure they will be that's my Fleet currently right?

[hot creek]

im still conflicted between 110 Hood or 110 Amagi. On one hand, Hood is wife and perfectly viable. On the other hand, Amagi is fucking overpowered.

[buoyant parrot]

That was my problem earlier

I wanted to shift to HMS but having hard time letting Amagi go

[zenith tundra]

(amagi all the way)

[hot creek]

wheres your beaver badge

im guessing you're wasdA right now

[zenith tundra]

ofc not maximing my foxes 1st because more reliable then unoath wasd

i would go wasd if oathed tho

[hot creek]

wait what. if you're using foxesA then shouldn't you be using badge on her?

[zenith tundra]

never used. i like hit rating on her

she's blind like hood

i also use 127 instead of belgun but switched for pve

i don't use beaver because what kills amagi is touchdown damage at least on offense and evasion doesn't stop that

[hot creek]

how's the new daily raid like?

do you need a 3:3 fleet?

[ivory vine]

no

i did 3:3 for the first try

doy did like 90% of the damage on the shelling one

there's a few mobs in front of the boss you gotta kill to spawn it

but w/e one you pick it takes extra damage from that

so duke was shelling it for like 15k on the first salvo

[zenith tundra]

i did guns one with doy jintsuu half manual till boss spawn

[ivory vine]

i ended up just doing hyuuga/doy backline

[zenith tundra]

just wait for it to spawn and hit auto and gg

[ivory vine]

and i think just phoenix frontline but idr entirely

[zenith tundra]

u need a gunboat that can clear fast

i ended up using jintsuu

also used 410 on doy

[hot creek]

I see. Thanks for the heads up

[red nexus]

Where do you have all that mk4 equip from?

[split socket]

u can do torp daily in literally 1 sec with aya + jintsuu if u manual it

[zenith tundra]

my doy is max oath so u might end up differently

[red nexus]

Do 9 and 10 give these blueprints?

[split socket]

just do what u did on WC EX, ram boss and then use 2x torp, instakills boss

[buoyant parrot]

[zenith tundra]

mk4=? i cant recall it

@red nexus

[red nexus]

Golden

Whatevs you wanna call it

[zenith tundra]

the equipment in order is:
the gun is from core data shop
aux gun from farm 6-2
aa from farm 5-4 iirc
sg radar from 6-1
hsfcr fallen wings event

[red nexus]

So, that's where it's from

Meaning i have not only missed 2 ships i desperately need, but also high rank gear...

Great

[zenith tundra]

there are reruns for non collab events so u'll get them eventually

[red nexus]

I hope so

Like washington, minne and z46 would be pretty important to have

But no, of course i got zepp

Very useful, since KMS strats without 46 are unusable anyways

[zenith tundra]

i would start saving up cubes as much as u can

having them is always good

also runing commissions for them helps

[red nexus]

True... i usally only build 10 light ships a week outside of events

[zenith tundra]

it takes a bit before u can stack up some more of them to not have problems

[red nexus]

But i mean, i never experienced fallen wings, and the kms event was really the first one that i was actually able to play

So it's not too surprising, that i missed a few

[zenith tundra]

also the gold equipment is usually just called gold eqiupment

[red nexus]

Aight

I have played so many games with item rarity, that i just use all terms wildly

[hot creek]

@split socket lmao you were right. I did it in like 2 seconds.

[split socket]

[zenith tundra]

how much oil is that? 9+10+?

[hot creek]

yeah pretty much. and whatever backline

[zenith tundra]

doy+1vg is 15+10

guess if u use a lb0 is cheaper

[sharp obsidian]

@modern tree , thanks!

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/D09RS/3c1acecdaf.png owo what are these?

[zenith tundra]

.....

[red nexus]

... indeed

[zenith tundra]

mental units u use for awakening lol

or cognitive chips how en calles them

[ivory vine]

chips?

can i eat them?

[hot creek]

[red nexus]

You can

you'll probably be sick after eating 1450 chips, tho

[hot creek]

which one would screw over underleveled fleets the most? Amagi or Hood

[zenith tundra]

akaga

[red nexus]

Enty

[zenith tundra]

idk tbh but my amagi can almost delete vgs

[red nexus]

[shy hazel]

what sorcery is this

i cant sandbag again

[zenith tundra]

?

[split socket]

ppl busy farming w11

[shy hazel]

2 resets now at 10/10

still no bite

🏳️‍🌈

[zenith tundra]

go for top 100 they always push

[hot creek]

a lot of those guys are at 0/10 though and often wait it out to 10/10

at least on sandy

can't out wait them....

[zenith tundra]

on avrora the top 100 players still push

i do my last attempts 30min earlier so i dont get sandbaggers in my list

[split socket]

@hot creek how did u get so many chips owo

[hot creek]

three star w11, three star w7H, raid.

all with lvl 100 ship btw

[zenith tundra]

u havent used any?

are u collecting them?

[split socket]

ahhh I forgot u could 3* hm......

already used up all my attempts for today so will do tmrw then :p

[hot creek]

im still deciding who to uncap

[split socket]

everyone in backline to 110 and then jintsuu imo

if amakaga

[zenith tundra]

i still have 11-2/3/4 and 7-1 to clear. stupid work

[split socket]

I only started playing 2hrs ago :<

[vague token]

oof

[zenith tundra]

for full amkaga gonna take a while. even with all bonuses u need 2 more days

[split socket]

is 1 BB backline enough for w11?

just to clear suicide ships

[zenith tundra]

i used scamcat amagi for 11-1

[vague token]

lol

[zenith tundra]

large main are tough even with 110 amagi

there are 4 bb/c

[vague token]

ow

that's a lotta fire

[zenith tundra]

for 11-2 gonna switch out hsfcr for fire extinguisher

[split socket]

I guess fire exting is a must

[zenith tundra]

11-1 is the easiest 3* i've seen for high worlds just 7 mobs nodes

[vague token]

i hate that movement pattern

on the bosses

doesnt work well with hood for me

i swapped amagi in

was fine

[split socket]

why would amagi work better in regards to movement patterns owo? Their barrages aren't too different no?

[vague token]

part of it isnt arced i thought

it goes flat

so it just goes all the way

until w/e max range is

[empty sinew]

can the kai'd + yat sen'd duo survive 11-4 at only lvl 100???

[vague token]

hood hits like the same spot

so when the 2 destroyers move to the back spot

it whiffs

but amagi's just keeps going forward

[split socket]

ic

[vague token]

i think

i might be crazy though

[split socket]

makes sense though

plunging shots are prone to missing if bosses moves alot

[vague token]

yeah

it's pretty much why amagi cleaves vanguards

since they arent arced

yet they count as BB/BC shots

so shields dont work

power creeeep

not that any shield triggers before amagi's shot

xD

[zenith tundra]

i used doy shouhou and enty for 11-3 boss and aya mvp ofc

[vague token]

xD

[zenith tundra]

fully buffed enty cant keep up with aya lol. aa too strong i guess

[vague token]

they need someone who like debuffs AA at the 20

[split socket]

my doy is still at lvl 90ish

[vague token]

like alternate radar or w/e

[split socket]

just made up a trashy akaga + tirp boss fleet, dunno how its going to work xD

[vague token]

o.o

[zenith tundra]

i'm awakening my akaga so i guess i'll end up using them for bosses

still need 70k xp for 110 tho

[split socket]

11-1 so far seems like a complete pushover, w10 was harder 🤔

[zenith tundra]

if u dont face large main fleets its actually easier then 10-4

maybe even with those

[split socket]

faced only 1 so far, still barely any damage

[vague token]

my pure pvp team gets rekt when mobbing

(vanguard)

[zenith tundra]

my amagi struggled killing all those bb/c solo. my vg was phoenix downes and cassin

[split socket]

Im using minnie, sirius and port. Kinda oil heavy in comparison but it goes pretty fast 😄

[zenith tundra]

i also want to try 410 instead of 381. if u dont barrage u end up with so little damage

not that 110 amagi barrage wasnt a full clear lol

my pvp list it's frozen

[shy hazel]

told ya

i think some ppl lost rounds

[zenith tundra]

better this way lol

[vague token]

lol

[zenith tundra]

whatever

[ionic magnet]

if i level break a ship with zero stocked exp, she can gain exp through exercise right?

[zenith tundra]

yes she gains exp normally

even dorm

[ionic magnet]

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/D0c6h/0395bd769d.png I saved so much aviation fodder to enhance my foxes after uncap but turns out you don't even have to enhance....

[zenith tundra]

i didnt even check lol

[shy hazel]

this person had 14k power fleet vanguard

105 jint and aya

and 13.8k wasde

first torp slap destroyed his vg in 8 seconds

[vague token]

lol

gave him the slap

[ionic magnet]

14k means sg radars on vg

[shy hazel]

dual dildo

guess hes not horny enuf to control its potential

[ionic magnet]

[finite valve]

sad panda would like to disagree with you

fleet power is such a fucking meme

[zenith tundra]

rip bonuses this reset

so far 0

[modern tree]

@hot creek you know what you did

Also, I am in top 20 Sandy, go play against HMS nerds, tell me it sucks

[hybrid tendon]

There can be only one

[hot creek]

monkaS

[hybrid tendon]

I have killed that guy and gain his power

[hot creek]

how interesting. I would also be at your score if I use my charges https://puu.sh/D0em9/412cd3b069.png

furashu is there too

idk man, everytime I try something different I just get rekt by amakaga and torp memes like usual

[hybrid tendon]

creative in pvp

[hot creek]

I turned to the dark side long ago.

[hybrid tendon]

in the grim darkness of the year 40k

there is only amakaga

[hot creek]

well, nobody on my list is moving so I guess ill move up and try to find you.

[hybrid tendon]

I'm gonna get 110 on amagi today

and wrekt some blebs

[hot creek]

though our fleets do have some level differences.

[modern tree]

It's only going to get worse since today I will actually have time to play.

[ionic magnet]

except everyone has time to play cos its weekends

[modern tree]

Hood and Dork are just waiting for chips to be 110

[split socket]

I beat a full 105 hms fleet with lvl 100 amakaga without reset

feelsgudman

[hybrid tendon]

its HMS

duh

[ionic magnet]

someone actually got sendai and columbia already smh

[zenith tundra]

is rank 1 a rusher?

[ionic magnet]

yea

not as much as dakarov but hes still a rusher

[zenith tundra]

good cause i have him on my list

[ionic magnet]

same

[zenith tundra]

[ionic magnet]

i could get a +1 rn but ill just wait kek

[zenith tundra]

i got tired of waiting for nothing so already 5/10

[leaden sequoia]

so you would need a full lvl 110 enemy fleet to completely negate PvP damage bonus

assuming damage buffs and debuffs stack additively like in the rest of the game

[zenith tundra]

by that point defender position bonus would wreck u

[ionic magnet]

kirishima event didnt give any chips

[hot creek]

welp, couldnt snipe Daxam but I got Tobi freakin twice lol

[ionic magnet]

its literally just kirishima lol

[split socket]

I can rank up some more if u wants pts 😄

[hot creek]

nah, its fine. just do your usual thing.

[leaden sequoia]

but then you didn't have to do anything to get Kiri, just login

[split socket]

I already botched this season a couple days ago anyway

fell asleep and missed 2 attacks

so just going to get gensui and call it a day this season

[zenith tundra]

has anyone even bothered with sp maps?

[split socket]

that's the ones I did first

[ionic magnet]

well i finished sp1

[hot creek]

havent started them yet lol

[ionic magnet]

its super easy xD

[leaden sequoia]

not yet, wanna clear story maps first

[ionic magnet]

sp3 is lv 50ish iirc

[zenith tundra]

i imagined everyone rushed w7hm or w11

[elder crane]

Guysguysguysguys

1st run Sendai

[split socket]

[ionic magnet]

pics or didnt happen

[leaden sequoia]

fuck you
ahem, kudos!

[elder crane]

You'll see my comment up there, once you get her too

[ionic magnet]

[split socket]

I got reimu on 2nd node

[elder crane]

Though at least 4 ppl got her b4 me

Given I'm the fifth like on her page

[shy hazel]

so,sendai drops any nodes

seems easy

[elder crane]

I got her boss, so idk

[shy hazel]

but ill get to feel it later

[elder crane]

Yeah, she's a rare so much easier

[shy hazel]

and funny thing

i tot i had enuf xp for amagi

turns out shes just 108

[zenith tundra]

[shy hazel]

i grinded out hard modes

8-1 left

[lament lichen]

dam 2096

[zenith tundra]

8?

[shy hazel]

i think i wont have enuf oil for w11 later

lol

3 starred 3 nodes

[zenith tundra]

i'm ok so far still 7k oil for w11

[shy hazel]

wish they sold cheaper oil

in cash shop

like the event ones

[zenith tundra]

[shy hazel]

[elder crane]

Wait, you haven't saved patch oil, or have you used it all?

[zenith tundra]

i used it

rank 64 at 10/10 yesterday was 128

people stopped playing pvp i guess

[leaden sequoia]

even mini-event can halt pvp

who am I kidding it's level caps, w11 and w7 hm

[zenith tundra]

if that is 10/10 ....

that famine score

kamita at 2100 too

[hot creek]

das cray

[lament lichen]

im getting closer

[zenith tundra]

i'm still 16 behind... no one moved

[elder crane]

I wonder if this time, technically gensui might have been possible for some people right this reset

[zenith tundra]

2.6k scores with 3 days left

[elder crane]

Maybe some people are

[zenith tundra]

technically speaking kamita has 10/10 with 2100 so he could reach 2200

but impossible to reach

because he would eat +9/8

[elder crane]

There's been a few people who originally had a lot of + from the DST bug, but who wasted it all

[hot creek]

aw shit I just realized I forgot to do yesterday's escort cargo raid. usually I just check quests to see if I have the daily raid done but that can be filled by tactical training raid now

[shy hazel]

too much pvp phoenix

[zenith tundra]

pve*

[ivory vine]

nope

no pve allowed in this channel

[zenith tundra]

wtf is torpedo raid it's way too easy

[hot creek]

yeah lmao you don't even have to kill mobs

boss spawns right in front of you and insta dies

[zenith tundra]

aya crits for 54k dmg looks cool

[shy hazel]

anyone who finished sendai rush

[zenith tundra]

looks good so far

[shy hazel]

can share me fleet

lazy to think on my own

[zenith tundra]

i'm still in w11-1 so can't help gonna continue after sleep

[shy hazel]

idont have any exp on foxes

[vague token]

oof

[shy hazel]

but i guess ill limitbreak them anyways

so i can get exp from pvp

[zenith tundra]

i'm like 70-80k from 110

[vague token]

at least you can dorm and pvp

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

well now i have to hope they can carry me in pve

for bosses

nerf aa in en pls

[vague token]

na, we just need a skill that debuffs aa but doesnt affect pvp too much

or maybe it could scale

like shangri la's little plane. the remaining health is used to reduce AA by a percentage

or something

[hot creek]

yeah im not even gonna bother trying to auto farm sendai

[zenith tundra]

i need to

[hot creek]

manual4lyfe

except for when you only had 3 hours of sleep and have been manualing all day

[zenith tundra]

i used manual in w7hm so i don't implode my oil farming escort fleets and i don't want to manual everything

[steep fog]

am I still good for gensui?

wash btw

[hot creek]

probably

[zenith tundra]

u can try waiting for a reset where there aren't many rushers

[coral wren]

I can show u my auto 11-3 farm mob fleet. Its kinda expensive tho. Since its 2:3

[zenith tundra]

saturday 2nd 3rd reset seems the easiest on avrora

[coral wren]

Btw are foxes good at 110?

[zenith tundra]

10 extra levels won't make them trash. most likely bb will become a bit better at 110

[ionic magnet]

dont see why they'll be bad

[coral wren]

I mean compared to wasda or hms

[ionic magnet]

we need to test first

[coral wren]

We have no data from jp or cn?

[leaden sequoia]

ppl say BBs begin to outclass CVs by a large margin, the concern was from that

[zenith tundra]

hms is a non issue on offense because of poor aa. wasda might become a wall

[leaden sequoia]

CN/JP have different metas tho, so comparing would be difficult

[coral wren]

I see.

[zenith tundra]

but i doubt u'll get walled off so easily with 110

[coral wren]

Becus I dont reslly want to mb my foxes. They have no use for me in pve

[leaden sequoia]

same lol

[zenith tundra]

well only hms is good in pve wasd is not that great

[coral wren]

I kinda wanna prio BBs over CVs

Washy is still good in pve

[zenith tundra]

sd tho

[hot creek]

sd certainly cancels that out

[coral wren]

I mean sd is just there to stall imo.

Probly wont matter if she is 110 or not

[leaden sequoia]

I want to mb Dork, but rn Tirpz is close to 370k exp, so I guess Tirpz will get mb first

[hot creek]

no she has a pretty fuckin important role in pvp m8

[leaden sequoia]

I might even use 3 BB after that just to try out new comps 🤔

[zenith tundra]

sd tanks 2nd akaga airstrike which is pretty important

[hot creek]

saw a guy in top 100 earlier investing in fw

im spooked

ill probably be doing the same after my amakaga are all 110

[coral wren]

Yeah. I am indesicive between fw or amakga

[hot creek]

for troll defense

[zenith tundra]

i looked around to see if people invested in pvp comps but either they aren't using the ships in pvp or didn't pick yet

lots of ayas lvl 105 tho

[coral wren]

DD in w11 boss fleet is scary.

Melts from torps

No bulge ri

Rip

[hot creek]

don't need to uncap pve ships when you can do w11 just fine with lvl 100 ships

[coral wren]

I find 10-4 to be kinda hard with only 100s

[zenith tundra]

idk my aya mvp almost all my 11-1 boss clears

[hot creek]

aya is manual queen

[leaden sequoia]

are we talking manual or auto here

[zenith tundra]

auto ofc

[coral wren]

My vanguard is stsly dying in 11-3 but I use auto

[leaden sequoia]

hmm, maybe because of oxytorp

[zenith tundra]

outdamages doy shouhou enty

full buff enty did less then doy lol

also i used sheffield for good measures with aya jintsuu

[shy hazel]

idont

understand this

darkova

is he vain or something

always uses all charges for zero reason

in first 15 mins

just to get first place

[zenith tundra]

someone should teach him how to sandbag

[shy hazel]

im triggered

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

he uses all charges even if he is first place

feels like braindamage

[hot creek]

nah, being r1 for 10 minutes every day is better than being r1 at end of the season for 1 hour. its simple math guys

[ionic magnet]

you mean r1 for 2 mins end season

[zenith tundra]

if u don't know what ur doing it makes sense tho

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

i just rushed too when i didn't know anything about pvp

[hot creek]

didn't the mod say that he taught darkova how to sandbag?

[ionic magnet]

[hot creek]

which was why he was defending his inflated points the other day?

[shy hazel]

said

[hot creek]

that's a lul if i ever saw

[vale juniper]

Yeah..!! Finally Rank 1..!!

Sandy's Server

[zenith tundra]

syranda said he thought him how to use charges at 1hr intervals

[ionic magnet]

they dont care about end season guis relax

[shy hazel]

no

at this point

[zenith tundra]

no one should because it doesn't matter but still

[shy hazel]

he may not even get

gensui

[zenith tundra]

he's only 5 attempts behind me might still get it

[ionic magnet]

[zenith tundra]

well the people in this chat usually aren't like that

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

we need peeps like him anyways

[shy hazel]

idont evensee anyone aiming for gensui being dumbon charges like that

hes literally scattering 5-6 points

every reset

[zenith tundra]

i think that syranda strat might work if ur not top rank. i mean is like sandbagging but without the camping part

[ionic magnet]

yea from 50 pts above me to 40 pts below me now

in like 4 days

[shy hazel]

idont see it being possible

yurucamp is best

[zenith tundra]

he lost to me from 65 ahead after bug to 51 under now

[hot creek]

sandbaggers and rushers have a symbiotic relationship

[zenith tundra]

if everyone sandbags then no one does

[lament lichen]

Darkova finally gives me a +11

[shy hazel]

id understand genrushing

but rush like that while losing points

im rly triggered

[ionic magnet]

heh its like showing off his extra rounds

[zenith tundra]

as i said if u don't know what ur doing u just do it

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

at first im triggered at him for cheating

not im triggered about him about wasting shit

[ionic magnet]

invite him to guild then teach him the ways

[shy hazel]

no plz

true hardcore pvp players only

gensui or kick

[hot creek]

i did that on second to last reset of a season one time because I thought I could flex and get away with the point deductions whilel keeping r1 into the final reset. Sadly I did not keep r1 that season

[zenith tundra]

if there is a spot i would like to join it since i'm guildless

[shy hazel]

soon

im jusy

what to say

shocked and annoyed

[ionic magnet]

o got 2 slots rn cos we levelled up

[shy hazel]

because avrora never have these kinds

of idiots

because avrora hardkore

[ionic magnet]

Sandyverse now recruiting

[zenith tundra]

there are hardcore players as well as people who don't care

7-1 map is absolutely the worst thing ever. 9-3 is a walk in the park compared to it

[shy hazel]

normally these kinds of rushers

wont even be in top 30

but i guess dst score effects still

[zenith tundra]

i think if he keep losing like 5 pts per reset he might still not make it to top 50

[hot creek]

eyup. If DST bug happened later in the season there would have been little in the way of them getting free top ranks

but since most of the people who benefited from the bug were rushers anyways, they just keep losing points and falling back as time goes on

[shy hazel]

in avrorathough

im not gonna lie

[ionic magnet]

imagine sanbaggers getting extra rounds

[shy hazel]

this is the first time

[ionic magnet]

we shall see soon

[shy hazel]

i saw,famine at top 100

this early

something tells me he got extracharges

[ionic magnet]

maybe he got extras? scary

[shy hazel]

[hot creek]

if famine got the extra charges, he's PogChamp

playing 4D chess with the devs

[shy hazel]

if famine or kamita is top again ill accept it

[ionic magnet]

hiding in the shadows

[shy hazel]

even without charges theyre top anyways

[zenith tundra]

i think it's because he actually managed to get bonuses off people that got extra rounds

[hot creek]

there was another guy in this chat speculating DST bug could happen again. hell even I thought about it and knew how to take advatage if it if it did happen again but I really didn't think the devs would repeat it lol

[shy hazel]

we will finally see the 2607 barrier break

[vast mortar]

sandyverse hardcore guild
nani

[shy hazel]

i bet itll go 2625

[zenith tundra]

i managed a +3 i would expect someone actually good at sandbagging to get a lot of points out of rushers

[hot creek]

time for me to start programming that leaderboard tracker to advance the sandbagging meta

[zenith tundra]

well i'm gonna spend next season rushing so i can collect data on rushers scores

[shy hazel]

[hot creek]

they say AL pvp is a joke

[shy hazel]

share the app btw

[hot creek]

but idk anymore

[modern tree]

Hey Phoenix, I found you. Hurry up and awaken your Amagi or something. Or just feed me points, that would be fine too

[shy hazel]

[hot creek]

well, I mean, she is but she's a little bit sleepy https://puu.sh/D0gUB/07ed422695.png

I am sleepy too, so no more grinding for me today

[shy hazel]

same level

[modern tree]

That looks suspiciously much like a 0. I will test later then.

[hot creek]

heh. I wonder if people fought my defense thinking she was only 100

time to get everyone to 108

should I swap Junuea out for torp meme Aya? I think I should

[shy hazel]

when u tot its 100

and its mirror

then u leave your work

u come back annihilated

[hot creek]

seeing that "Annihilated" always fucks me up, mang.

like, whole day is ruined.

[zenith tundra]

i hate it so much just like when i fuck up my attempts

[shy hazel]

i cry myself a little everytime that happens

[zenith tundra]

guess people really didn't work on their foxes at all lol

well time to crush people who didn't level foxes

[shy hazel]

more like i cant

they useless in w11

[zenith tundra]

who cares i have all the time to do w11

now is the time to kill people on offense

[hot creek]

everyone shits on pve foxes. meanwhile im sitting here like "umm...they're not that bad...." lol

[zenith tundra]

we won't get another chance till 120

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

i will use my foxes in w11 bosses even if i have to manual for it

[ionic magnet]

pve is easy, foxes or not

[hot creek]

the quick launch actuailly lets them 1:1 against mobs to some degree unlike every other CV

[ionic magnet]

if people can auto everything then that means something

[zenith tundra]

for good measures i went on ahead and almost cleared 7-1. fuck that map

but don't think i'll ever farm it to danger level 0 too cancer

[shy hazel]

i want my vincessense

[zenith tundra]

....

69 pts. just why

[shy hazel]

your opponent?

[shy hazel]

good

[ionic magnet]

oof why did i not wait for termina

[hot creek]

just think, if only you hadn't gotten that +11 last time. You would have gotten this +12

[zenith tundra]

if he wouldn't have eaten so many +9/8....

[hot creek]

i've already gotten used to seeing my opponents in Sandy do their pvps only to get a -34 gap above me so im kind of numb to these things now haha

[zenith tundra]

every time is like 33 pts or something like that i feel cursed

i just got an opponent 31pts ahead....

[hot creek]

oh wow, my aya almost has enough xp to get to 105 instantly

maybe I should awaken her

I only ever use her for defense though. hmmm.

[real notch]

biggest problem right now is my oil

i have no oil to do what i wanna do

[hot creek]

time to bust out the credit card. that cat is calling your name.

[zenith tundra]

i have 10.4k oil for 11-2/3/4

[real notch]

Yeah i might need that credit card

Haven't even finished the event maps

Ill be working on this 24/7 for the next 3 days...

[hot creek]

nice sendai 👍

[real notch]

another example proving my luck for drops are decent but my construction luck is garbage tier...

i believe i spent 6-7k ish oil getting sendai

u should be fine i think

[zenith tundra]

if i can get sendai while clearing w11 i can build my amakaga wall soon enough

still gonna be nice to be a wall on defense because people didn't level up foxes

[real notch]

if u do then you'll also spend 6-7k ish

[zenith tundra]

maybe still after 11-4 i have nothing left, cleared earlier sp3

i also somehow got long oil commissions for once when i need them

[jovial sedge]

Oh wow this bs :D I was like hey I gotta do it if I use all my tries now ill have 2040p and be the first... but ofc last match gave me 9p instead of 10

[shy hazel]

ToTu top one again

tryhard

[ionic magnet]

just prepping for gensui rush then i'll enjoy my 2 day break again

[livid fractal]

@real notch is Sendai boss drop only?

I can't beat the 11-3 boss yet, my vanguard dies too fast from torps

[leaden sequoia]

Sendai from mobs too

[livid fractal]

Oh i see, well then

[grave gale]

My luck is the opposite. I have good construction luck but horrid drop luck

[leaden sequoia]

Early on I was like that too, now it's more or less balanced

Like I got St. Louis from build, and Poi accidentally dropped, but then I couldn't pull build-only chinese DDs or Grenville and event SRs never drop

[jovial sedge]

:/ I ddint drop fiji and duck jintsuu... such afox

[coral wren]

There is a amakaga wall? Pls do tell

I got my sendai on 5th run. I wanna use her in my pvp 😮

[hybrid tendon]

spent all attempts

got to #1, missing 29 for gensui

well well well

[zenith tundra]

2nd time today already 69 pts away

[coral wren]

is it possible for amakaga with jintsu aurora sendai to lose against wasda after amakaga wipes out wasdas vanguard? cus their backline is alot more tankier and their 2ndary guns will probly gun down the vanguard and blast away foxes hps

[zenith tundra]

vg tend to be kind of useless against 3 bb comps because they get shred to dead by bb aux guns so winning vg battle might not mean much

[coral wren]

yeah thats what I am afraid...

cus i really wanna try jintsu aurora sendai but

seeing how much stronger amagi got just from 105

imagine a full 110 wasda

[modern tree]

I dont know about defense, but my lvl 105 HMS has been beating 110 Amagi with 105/110 foxes rather handily on offense throughout the day. Only problem is that Aurora seems to be increadibly rare on Sandy so I can't trust my results entirely

[coral wren]

I am thinking more about the future when everyone is fully decked on defense with 110

when amakaga vs wasda on 110.

also want a defense fleet that is annoying to fight xd

[modern tree]

not my problem looool Really depends on how much effective tankyness they are getting. With wasd's AA, any health buff is immense against CVs that get basically no damage boost in this deal. It just depends on howhard can they hit back and I am moderately sure shells, if they ever come, will put their damage at "sufficent" to ward off carriers until Nagato gives them an actual damage boost.

[coral wren]

oh

so only Nagato can boost akagas dmg

[modern tree]

But Nagato also means Amagi has her new best friend around and, so foxes might end up being a crutch for non priviledged players, while everyone else plays with big battleships.

[coral wren]

hmm

[modern tree]

and 110 is like 20 aviation total for foxes. It's not a damage boost.

[coral wren]

I only see Nagato Amagi + Taihou or Hiryuu kai on aripandas guide

[zenith tundra]

there are actual foxes comps with amagi/enty/hood but only relevant to us

[modern tree]

Nagato Amagi would be missing tools atm, yeah, possibly just enough to make foxes better, but those tools are coming and nobody can stop that. We will get vdir rerun, anniversary content, bunny retros and other stuff that makes the comp silly, its a matter of time

[coral wren]

oh boy cant wait

does aurora provide anything for wasda?

[zenith tundra]

i think she is useful for at least ur vg torpedoes

[coral wren]

yikes

[zenith tundra]

if ur using 406 most likely not for wasd

[coral wren]

I am using portland belfast jesus

big yikes with torps

[modern tree]

Aurora is just the VG removal service. If you care about that on your wasd, then she can provide that, but do you?

[coral wren]

I dont even think my backline actually hits enemy vnaguard

[zenith tundra]

u need to kill ur vg and enemy vg so u don't waste time shooting vgs

[coral wren]

I see.

[zenith tundra]

that is why u use suicidal vg for wasd

[coral wren]

what is suicidal vg?

jintsu aurora ayaa?

or is jesus better

[zenith tundra]

jintsuu aurora jesus should be best

[coral wren]

alright gonna try that

[zenith tundra]

u don't want ur vg to last long also not really want ur vg to die before 2nd torp wave

[coral wren]

if only i can find a proper amakaga fleet :x

[zenith tundra]

they should die on 2nd torp wave

[coral wren]

2nd wave is around 22 secs or so right?

depending on quad or quint

[real notch]

@livid fractal i got sendai from boss node, i think you can from mobs

[zenith tundra]

i'm doing 11-3 now hope i get lucky

[coral wren]

good luck

[livid fractal]

@real notch yeah, already got mine from boss drop too

[real notch]

Niceee

[finite valve]

dk if i should lvl break foxes or DOY in anticipating for the next meta change

so many choices lel

[coral wren]

yeah no idea

[finite valve]

also in other news sex hound is being release

instant kai for me

[hot creek]

i might have to actually particpate in gensui rish for once instead of getting top 10 end of every season

but then again its Sandy server

[zenith tundra]

?

already

[lament lichen]

he had extra 5 attacks

[zenith tundra]

15 pts ahead lol

fuck off

definitely this season is trash

[lament lichen]

only 3 behind him

[hot creek]

r1 on sandy is only 1 point ahead of me but i know people are holding onto charges from DST

[zenith tundra]

u sandbagged all the way while this gus just cheated

[hot creek]

cause there are people who rush someties but do know how to sandbag to help with gensui rush

[zenith tundra]

he won't use attempts anymore so rip that

[lament lichen]

its already a free +11 anyways

[zenith tundra]

the annoying part is that he's gonna get top ranks only because of a bug

[lament lichen]

kamita is at 2151 and famine at 2150

[zenith tundra]

same score as them lol

[lament lichen]

they both only got 1 bonus this cycle

rip

[zenith tundra]

i will bug abuse next time just for the hell of it

if he didn't rush for aotn for no reason his score would've been better then kamita most likely