pvp

[zenith tundra]

i'm at 1473 with 4/10

[ionic magnet]

anyone above 1520 is suspicious, heck i bet some 1510 peeps got extra resets too

[lime rivet]

@zenith tundra is the current rank 1 on avrora Darkova?

[sharp obsidian]

@viral galleon , may we at PvP know if all adjustments have been made? Or will this be yet another broken season? 😦

[teal saffron]

^

[vague token]

oh god

[zenith tundra]

@lime rivet yes he is

[teal saffron]

its prob gonna stay a broken season tbh

[sharp obsidian]

Yeah, just like last season

*The last season they changed server time

They always claim to have "Fixed It" but you still see these guys at the top of the rankings

[lime rivet]

@zenith tundra Okay. He was at 997 seasonal score before friday

[split socket]

if they could fix it, they would've done it long ago.

[coral wren]

sounds legit

[sharp obsidian]

Yeah, but it bothers me that they lie to us saying they fixed it.

[lime rivet]

Anyone want to math out his average score if he is rank 1 today

[sharp obsidian]

When it is so obvious that they haven't

[ionic magnet]

@lime rivet whos that?

[zenith tundra]

15x3x10=450

with bonuses max 470-480

1k +480=1480 not 1550

u cannot get 500 pts in 3 days with +10 x attempt

[split socket]

even if he sandbagged every single turn and got +11 he wouldn't even reach 1500 🤦

[zenith tundra]

especially since it takes 35pts difference for a +1

[lime rivet]

He was at 1393 4 hours into saturday's reset

[split socket]

hold on a min, u guys got pvp log but u can't check if they've done more exercise attempts than it's possible?

[lime rivet]

Reset happens at 4pm my time, that screencap was at 8pm

[ionic magnet]

cmon theres no need for complicated maths we all know anyone above 1530 got extra resets

[coral wren]

maybe they need to know by how much

[split socket]

reset it to 0 for abusing exploit

[lime rivet]

I'm mathing it out

He would have two more pvp cycles before sunday's maint

[ionic magnet]

even 1510 peeps are suspicious we will never know

[lament lichen]

Man im 30 points behind rank 1 even if i use all my points now

[lime rivet]

So at minimum, that would be what, 1493 before maint?

[odd schooner]

im at 1467 5/10

[lime rivet]

After maint, add 50 points, 1543

He's at 1554 now

I know Darkova sandbags

Does my math check out, guys?

[odd schooner]

@buoyant parrot did they already deducted all the extra points you got??

[ionic magnet]

if he sandbags he will never be rank 1 by today

[shy hazel]

yup

he will never be top one by today even if he is the top sandbagger

[coral wren]

what kind of sandbag goes for rank 1 randomly

[frank mural]

Exactly lmao

[lime rivet]

As in, he does once per hour attacks, not aggressive

[split socket]

one that cheats

[lime rivet]

Because I taught him that.

[ionic magnet]

bring him in here

[coral wren]

so he is god tier sandbagger if he has more points than all the sandbaggers here and still have charges left

[lime rivet]

I.e. he doesn't reserve his attacks

[zenith tundra]

so ur saying he gets 40+ pts over an average sandbagger in 1 week?

[coral wren]

oh wait 1 attack per hour.

[lime rivet]

I'm saying that by his own screenshots, he had 1393 points 2 pvp cycles before maint

[ionic magnet]

34 point gap over rank 2 cmon

[odd schooner]

ye technically he's 37 points above the normal top 10 baggers

[lament lichen]

Yup

[lime rivet]

Are the normal top 10 baggers at 0/10?

[odd schooner]

5/10 ofc

[split socket]

no top 10 baggers would ever be at 0/10 at this time lol

[lime rivet]

@zenith tundra you wanna weigh in on this?

[split socket]

everyone hangs around 5-10 at all times

[lament lichen]

Theres no need to push this early

[odd schooner]

oh switch and kiroshima on my list

+1 secured

[lime rivet]

Not me, and not the people i've taught. Our objective isn't to be the top 10 at the end or the season, it's to hit top 10 just once

For the point reward

[zenith tundra]

i know for sure my score was top 10 last season before i slept on attempts last reset. i'm not saying i'm a good sandbagger just the points difference makes no sense since i never lost 1 attempt this season

[lament lichen]

Right now im at 1441 at 8/10

[lime rivet]

So all I'm saying is that he was at 1393 two cycles before reset and i know he went 0/10 then

[ionic magnet]

there are limits to points no matter how good or lucky you are at sandbagging

[odd schooner]

4 points away

from 11 points

on day 1

a lot more to go

[lime rivet]

Which would plausibly put him at a minimum of 1493 for 0/10 before maint

If my math does not check out, let me know.

[zenith tundra]

his score rn would be 2609 without 1 week of bonuses and the max last season was exactly that

how does that work

[teal saffron]

eyyy 1497 is my score yay

[zenith tundra]

did he sandbag for 2 weeks in 1

[ionic magnet]

@lime rivet his current score doesnt check out idk abt your calcs

[lime rivet]

What is his current score right now, three cycles after maintenance?

[shy hazel]

zack what is your score rn

[zenith tundra]

1473

[shy hazel]

charges

[zenith tundra]

with 4/10

1513 max

[shy hazel]

i actually got bugged ones

if my calculations are correct

[lime rivet]

This is the avrora leaderboard right now.

[shy hazel]

and our scores our near

[ionic magnet]

im at 1421 with 9 charges

[shy hazel]

they didnt fix it anyways

because me zack score is so far almost the same

[ionic magnet]

1411 if use all and i imagine top sandbaggers has 20 pts at most above me

[shy hazel]

but i losrt a round

[lime rivet]

This is the Avrora leaderboard two pvp cycles (10 attacks) before maintenance

[shy hazel]

then bug gave me one round

if our score is similar rn its not fixed

ill calculate

[lime rivet]

Assuming he used all10 attacks before maintenance, it would put him at 1493 points before maintenance

At a minimum

[ionic magnet]

er no cos he will eat +9s and +8s

[lime rivet]

Considering he's running a 12.8/12.7 fleet and attacks on the hour instead of rushing, it's still plausible he gets a full 50pt minimum

[zenith tundra]

plain and simple he has a 2.6k score bonus 1 week in. if the staff thinks he didn't cheat then whatever

[lime rivet]

I'm saying that my calculations so far shows his score to be pretty plausible.

[frank mural]

Might be possible if he boosted off of those who abused pvp and got full 10 points every attempt

[lime rivet]

Because I know what his current score is and what his score was before maintenance hit

[coral wren]

u guys are just bad at sandbagging just admit it

[ionic magnet]

if he beats famine we're done

[coral wren]

jelly bois

[modest elbow]

[lime rivet]

Now I can't speak for the other servers

[vague token]

i mean it's easier to just wait for a week and see final score lol

if someone breaks 2607 or w/e

game is up

instead of pointing fingers in the middle

it's just easier that way

[lime rivet]

But again, if you guys have the calculations based off 0/10 attacks

[zenith tundra]

for that score u need around 120pts bonus in 1 week

he must be a god of sandbagging

[lime rivet]

For which score? 1393 before maintenance?

[ionic magnet]

he doesnt even save 5/10 charges

[zenith tundra]

1554 halfway season

[lime rivet]

I'm gonna repost this

Not me, and not the people i've taught. Our objective isn't to be the top 10 at the end or the season, it's to hit top 10 just once

So we go 0/10 every cycle

At a minimum of 10 points per battle

[vague token]

uh, 10 isnt the min though

[buoyant parrot]

@odd schooner I'm not so sure, I don't look at it anymore since after I miss 1 attack before the maintenance

[lime rivet]

Which...isn't really hard to do

[zenith tundra]

i would like to try ur strat too if it gives so many bonuses tho

[vague token]

xD

[shy hazel]

lets us get this straight first okay

[ionic magnet]

thats actually it, if you always stay at 0/10 you will never be rank 1 which kinda makes it so suspicious

[shy hazel]

were the most

[split socket]

if u go for rank 1 ur 100% going to eat some +9 / +8, especially if even 2nd place is behind u by 34 pts

[shy hazel]

hardcore active pvp players here

lets get this straight

its impossible

[lime rivet]

Again, we go 0/10, but we don't rush all attacke

[shy hazel]

to get 50 higher points

than us

this early

[vague token]

xD

[shy hazel]

IMPOSSIBLR

were not fools

[lament lichen]

He is 30 points above me if i go 0/10

[zenith tundra]

how do u gain +10s when everyone in ur list is behind u?

[lime rivet]

Wait an hour or so per attack, someone is always going to be above you

[shy hazel]

fuck this

[lament lichen]

Doesnt matter if you wait

[split socket]

what is this discussion about anyway

[shy hazel]

at this point youre just defending the guy

[split socket]

it's clear that dude cheated

[shy hazel]

he doesnt deserve it

[lament lichen]

Rank one in avorva

[shy hazel]

thats it

[ionic magnet]

welp you can defend him all you like but its a losing battle

[vague token]

i mean it isnt 100% lol

[shy hazel]

just reset the season

if they cant fix it

[lament lichen]

Theres no way to get 160 points for today with 15 attempts

Thats 10 bonus points

[lime rivet]

Rank 1 in avrora was at 1393 points five cycles ago (two cycles before maintenance). Rank 1 in avrora is currently at 1553 points.

[zenith tundra]

i still think if the devs checked his score and nothing is wrong with it the i'm fine with it

[vague token]

the only weird part is that if he was this godlike at sandbagging

why didnt he pop up in previous season

[lime rivet]

Pretty sure devs also log number of attacks

[vague token]

not the score atm

lol

everyone else here would be talking about someone like that ;)))

[zenith tundra]

250pts not 260 instead

[split socket]

tbh, if devs log number of attacks, this wouldn't even be a problem in the 1st place

[shy hazel]

where did the ss come from

how was it validated

[lime rivet]

He posted it.

[shy hazel]

was it from a third party

[buoyant parrot]

I thought I was the number 1 for not me realizing there was a DST shenanigan that happened again so whats with PvP right now?

[lime rivet]

About a full 16 hours before maintenance, mind you

[ionic magnet]

again it doesnt matter what his score was before maintenance

[shy hazel]

its just simple impossible to have 50 points higher than us

[split socket]

u can calculate how many attempts it would've been possible to do in this season, and then check how many a player has done

then -10 for every extra attempt

[idle python]

I guess I'll put some input into this but CN is currently 2 cycles ahead of EN granted this cycle just started 30 mins ago

[split socket]

it's not rocket science

[idle python]

I'm at 10/10 attacks which results to ~1606 assuming I don't eat +9

my server isn't as active as avrora obv but apparently it's more active than sandy

[buoyant parrot]

wow how did Darkova get 1554?????

[ionic magnet]

lol ether youre late

[buoyant parrot]

sorry was preppin for my flight tomorrow

[shy hazel]

we are hardcore sandbaggers here we do everything to be top ten

now there is this guy

who used magic

[vague token]

apparently he is a sleeper godtier sandbagger that has gone further beyond

[shy hazel]

and sandbagged 50 points

[vague token]

and never appeared in previous seasons

;)))

[shy hazel]

away from us

wow

[split socket]

ultra instinct sandbagger

[buoyant parrot]

I dont even think thats DST 2.0 issue anymore

[shy hazel]

its aladdin

[buoyant parrot]

this looks like a case of hacking perhaps?

[idle python]

I don't care what happens to en stuff since I obv don't play it but to me it feels pretty clear that someone abused the bug

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

they cant fix it anyways

just reset the season

[buoyant parrot]

well the DST 2.0 bug was just gave you an extra 10 attacks as far as I know

[zenith tundra]

i think it'll be fine

[lime rivet]

@buoyant parrot this guy had 1393 points 10 attacks before the maintenance hit.

[teal saffron]

how 2 sandbag

[shy hazel]

ether knows it better

[buoyant parrot]

but even having 15 attacks??? wont make you at 1554 Im confuse

[lime rivet]

He's at 1554 now. So that's 5 cycles between his 1393 score and 1554

[shy hazel]

he usef all rounds before maint

[lime rivet]

So 25 attacks

Not 15

[buoyant parrot]

OMG

and how is that even possible

[zenith tundra]

@lime rivet math is 261 pts from 25 attempts i think he gained bonuses from attacking bug abusers

[buoyant parrot]

its no longer DST bug

[ionic magnet]

^

[buoyant parrot]

its sort of hacking the game

[shy hazel]

did they subtract the bonuses

got from sandbaggimg abusers

i dont think so

[zenith tundra]

u cannot subtract that

[shy hazel]

because its just impossible to get that score

[buoyant parrot]

hmmm that is sooo weird let me check my remaining attacks right now

there

[shy hazel]

i wont even believe his damn screenshot

if he sandbags like us

[lime rivet]

[shy hazel]

his score should be very near

with us

not 50 points ahead

were always comparing scores here

[lime rivet]

I know he goes 0/10. I also know its not like he has a reason to lie since he posted it a full uh, lemme math

[shy hazel]

even if there is top sandbagger

[lime rivet]

A full 20 hours before maintenance happened.

[modest elbow]

i feel like that 1393 screenshot is just a repost or an old pic of a previous season

[shy hazel]

he will only be 20 points

away from us

🚮

aka famine

and kamita

darkova who the fuck even is that

[lime rivet]

Most plausible story is that he got bonus points off the people who abused the extra attacks

[vague token]

what are famine and kamita at right now anyways lol

[buoyant parrot]

well just consider this season trash. Who ever goes to top 1-10 is questionable for this season

[lime rivet]

[shy hazel]

just reset the season

[hybrid tendon]

pvp top 10 is truly fucked up

[shy hazel]

[hybrid tendon]

the #1 guy is 1560 atm

[buoyant parrot]

not possible to reset the season for they where not even able to do that the 1st time it happened

[hybrid tendon]

7 fights more than me

[ionic magnet]

what server?

[shy hazel]

kenobi didnt lose any round

either

[hybrid tendon]

avrora

yea

[shy hazel]

kenobi can u believe it

he sandbagged 60 points

away from u

[hybrid tendon]

yikes

[shy hazel]

[hybrid tendon]

i mean

all the top 10 are taking advantage of that

definitely

[shy hazel]

i always take note of top ten

mintvont is a regular

[ionic magnet]

i thought someone new got 1560

[hybrid tendon]

actually

actually

[vague token]

time to screenshot and timestamp top 10 every season from now on ;)

[ionic magnet]

hes got 1554

[hybrid tendon]

only that darkova guy

with 1554

is suspicious

[zenith tundra]

to put it plain and simple as a sandbagger ur always 5/10/20 pts ahead of current 1st depending on the time in the season without losing 1 attempt. it's wierd to see people 40 pts ahead of u when u camped all the time and never lost attempts

[shy hazel]

noftr and jaiter are regulars

[coral wren]

he is just better sandbagger than u and uses a better strat

[lime rivet]

Are y'all 0/10?

[shy hazel]

were sandbaggers

[lime rivet]

@zenith tundra? @hybrid tendon?

[shy hazel]

why we go 0

[hybrid tendon]

i 'm at 1519 if i do it rightnow

[shy hazel]

[lime rivet]

Guess that answers the question.

[buoyant parrot]

I've totally given up with PvP instead I go with this...

[hybrid tendon]

still at 1489 with 3 more fights

[buoyant parrot]

come on I'm almost Gensui at Fleet power :3

[lime rivet]

[ionic magnet]

we are taking into account our charges left

[zenith tundra]

i would be at not even 1510 pts because of eating +9/8s if i did all my attempts

[lime rivet]

I'm just going to throw it out there that not everyone saves pvp attacks.

[hybrid tendon]

I mean

that #1 guy

[shy hazel]

so

[hybrid tendon]

is 100% cheater

[lime rivet]

@hybrid tendon did you backread thenconversation?

[shy hazel]

he used all of his charges

[idle python]

well, like I said cn servers are 2 cycles ahead of en

[shy hazel]

and got 50 points

[ionic magnet]

the fact that your guy always stays at 0/10 just makes it more suspicious tbh

[shy hazel]

ahead of us

[idle python]

I'm was at 1506 with 10/10 pvp attacks

[shy hazel]

even if we use

all charges

[vague token]

even if he hit people like me who go 0/10, he'd eat -1s or -2s

[hybrid tendon]

if i used all my charged I would get only 1519

[shy hazel]

nice meme

[frank mural]

Basically those who sandbag and save attempts get punished for not going 0/10

[idle python]

which pretty much means I would be with a n en player who used all of their attacks

[magic star]

@buoyant parrot hey! what fleet power represents? total fleet stats?

[hybrid tendon]

dude has 4 fights over me

[buoyant parrot]

You can't be ahead of the top PvP players here if you always consumes your attack 0/10

[idle python]

ob avrora is more active than my server

[zenith tundra]

it's not a matter of using or not attempts the problem is the current difference doesn't make any sense for anyone who plays pvp here

[idle python]

but not 50 points because my server is apparently more active than sandy server and sandy is less than 50 points behind avrora

[lime rivet]

Because I posted two screenshots earlier of Darkova's score. One was on Friday, one was on Saturday. The Saturday one was posted by him 20 hours before maintenance happened - so two pvp cycles, or 10 attacks

[shy hazel]

so its our fault we didnt 0/10 when shit broke

[lime rivet]

His Saturday score, 10 attacks before maintenance, was 1393

[buoyant parrot]

and that's regardless with the DST Bug issue even if you have Free 10-15 attacks

something is not right here

[lime rivet]

Before the server broke and before all the attack shenanigans

[shy hazel]

so are you telling us

[buoyant parrot]

@magic star your ship lv and gears

[shy hazel]

he,cheated even before

dat bug

[magic star]

@buoyant parrot oh cool, thanks!

[storm pasture]

@hybrid tendon the darkova guy said on fb he didnt abuse the bug. He just spent all exercise before maintenance and after maintenance and hotfix he said he got refilled to 10/10

[lime rivet]

No, I'm saying that so far, I'm not seeing any proof that he cheated besides you guys going "he's not as good as us therefore there is no possible way he is legit"

[shy hazel]

because no matter how u spin thus story

[hybrid tendon]

so he got refilled 5 more

[shy hazel]

its impossible

to get that score

ahead of us

[hybrid tendon]

than usual

[idle python]

syanda did you see what i posted

[hybrid tendon]

he gets a +5

pure and simple

a cycle is a +5

but he got a +10

coz update

[storm pasture]

Not +5, more like +10. From 0/10 to 10/10

[shy hazel]

were talking on deaf ears at this point

[hybrid tendon]

yea

[shy hazel]

meh fk this shit

[buoyant parrot]

@hybrid tendon I think I might have gotten that 5 refill extra coz Like what I said yesterday right after before the "in 10mins maintenance thing" I was on number 1

[shy hazel]

syan just wants to defend the joker

[teal saffron]

soneone do math on paper and post it here to prove s rite

thats what he wants

[shy hazel]

at this point

[buoyant parrot]

I just don't know what my score back then didn't pay attention

[lime rivet]

@teal saffronthat is literally what i asked like, an hour ago

So yeah

[teal saffron]

ye

[lime rivet]

Do the math, ALO is on, show the math

[coral wren]

[shy hazel]

theyll believe one person who dont do pvp much compared to the people who does it every season

heh

[vague token]

or just wait until end of season, anyone breaking 2607 is sketch xD

so simple to do it that way

[lime rivet]

[zenith tundra]

so math wise from 997 before friday to 2 resets before maintenance he got 396pts in 35 attempts which mean he managed to get a total of 46 bonus in 2 and half days

[lime rivet]

I did my own math. Now you guys get to disprove it to prove that he got extra attacks and you can bring it up to ALO

[ionic magnet]

his current score proves it already idek whats to argue about

[hybrid tendon]

let me just explain this in short : we sandbagger always have 4-5 fights saved and that guy did his 5 right away
so when reset hit he got a +10 while we get a +5

see

its just this

[buoyant parrot]

is that even feasable to get that 46 bonus in 2 and a half days?

[storm pasture]

Yes

[hybrid tendon]

math this math that

fuck math

[frank mural]

The way I see it, having 0/10 before maint and refilled to 10/10 is justified?

[storm pasture]

Nope, not fair

[hybrid tendon]

totally not fair

[frank mural]

How is that even fair lmao

[zenith tundra]

i don't really think it's possible and most likely that score is with 40 attempts not 35 as u say

[buoyant parrot]

ha! precisely

[lime rivet]

Show me that it's not plausible or possible with the math

[frank mural]

Sandbaggers are def holding attempts even after resets

[lime rivet]

Assume he goes 0/10.

[frank mural]

We basically get punished for not going 0/10 lmao

[lime rivet]

Look, guys, if you want to convince the devs that there IS a problem, this is what you gotta do.

Prove. Conclusively. That it happened

[hybrid tendon]

how

we dont have access to the data

[idle python]

@lime rivet CN is 2 cycles ahead of EN (so 10 attacks ahead), this cycle I am at 1506 with 10/10 attacks which means I've done the same amount of attacks as an EN player who used all of their attacks. Avrora is about 15-20 ahead of sandy by the end of the server, my server on CN finishes ahead of sandy. THe guy is 50 pts ahead of me

[hybrid obsidian]

so much fuss over one guy's score, lol, what the starting, ending and attempt counts, lemme try myself

[lime rivet]

I gave you his score before maintenance. You have his current score now. You know how many pvp cycles occurred between those two time points

[ionic magnet]

you know there is a problem if these many people are suspicious about your guy

[idle python]

idc what happens in the end but I'll just show you this

most people don't even care in the first point since it's already happened

[shy hazel]

This will fall on deaf ears lets just spam official

[random vault]

im at 1503 in sandy if i use all my attacks

[coral wren]

[random vault]

0 losses and minimal sandbagging i guess

[lime rivet]

@hybrid obsidian two cycles before maint, he was at 1393. It is now 3 cycles after maint, he's at 1554

[hybrid obsidian]

hm, ok

[shy hazel]

[hybrid tendon]

OUR 3 cycles

are 15 fight

HIS 3 cycles

[lime rivet]

Assume he used all attacks

[hybrid tendon]

are 20

FIGHTS

because the RESET

FUCKED up

[ionic magnet]

he's not listening

[hybrid tendon]

and give him + 10 instead

[lime rivet]

Yes...so run the numbers based on his score and 15 fights

[hybrid tendon]

HE GOT 20

because he emptied his fights

[hybrid obsidian]

lol

[coral wren]

then do the math and prove it

[hybrid tendon]

he get a + 10 when patch hit

[random vault]

where did you get this 1393 figure from anyway

[hybrid tendon]

............

[hybrid obsidian]

i mean its possible to get 161 , its not all impossible

[livid fractal]

[hybrid tendon]

sir do you understand cycles?

[idle python]

tat that means on 1 cycle you got a bonus point 5/5 times

[storm pasture]

Each win +10 points, yes?

[hybrid tendon]

each cycles we got a +5

[idle python]

which doesn't happen if you go 5/10->0/10 at all

[hybrid tendon]

but in that fucked reset cycle

[hybrid obsidian]

161 pts over 15 attempts

[hybrid tendon]

if you have 0/10

[shy hazel]

and its impossible t be 50 points ahead of us without cheating

[hybrid obsidian]

its not all impossible, is all im saying

[hybrid tendon]

it jumped to10/10

[lime rivet]

Okay, let me dumb this down a bit. If he went 10/10 after maint, he would have 20 attacks post maint and 10 attacks pre maint for a total of 30 attacks.

If he did not, he would be at 15 attacks post maint and 10 attacks pre maint for a total of 25 attacks.

The score difference is 1393 and 1554. Is this score achievable with 25 attacks? I'm asking for mathematical proof of this assuming all attacks are expended

[hybrid tendon]

and its totally unfair

[buoyant parrot]

so Right now I have 1482 which most likely i got an extra attack coz of that DST Bug issue my score right will be 1482 + 4x attempt assuming +40 im at 1522 that's still 32 points ahead. having that said I miss 1 attack so lets say I didn't so I should be at 1532 and that is still 22 points. and I'm sure you cant get 22 points extra from sandbagging for 1 and a half day.

[hybrid obsidian]

over 25 would be at 6.44 per attempts

and thats impossible

[shy hazel]

whata this guys name

can u tag him here

[zenith tundra]

@lime rivet from 997 to 1393 its a total of 36 bonus points in 30 battles which means at least attacking all the time an opponent with +35 score every attack. how is that even possible when mostly of people struggle to get 3 attempts per reset at +1?

[random vault]

im still wondering where did the 1393 figure come from

[storm pasture]

161 pts to earn is not impossible with 20 tries of exercise

[hybrid tendon]

yea

[lime rivet]

@storm pasture

[hybrid obsidian]

screenshots, lul

[idle python]

syanda jw, what part of the part I pinged you about would you try to disprove

[hybrid obsidian]

show his current attemp count and we ll know

[lime rivet]

I'm not here to disprove anything. I'm here to see y'alls proof that he has done more attacks than possible

[idle python]

do you not see my proof then?

[zenith tundra]

how can u be top 1 all the time and do attacks on someone with 35 pts ahead?

[idle python]

even if I'm cn and in a diff server

[lime rivet]

And i'm giving you this information to see whether he is or isn't lefit

[idle python]

like I said I don't care what happens

[buoyant parrot]

im gonna try to sandbag and see if I can reach that score before the reset or at least be close like maybe 5 points less

[lime rivet]

@idle python that is what i'd call anecdotal evidence, mate

[idle python]

but don't see how it's plausible

[shy hazel]

he isnt and all of us here is saying it based on scores alone

[idle python]

I showed an ss?

not one I pinged you with

[shy hazel]

in where did he ost that pic

what time

timezone

[livid fractal]

Top one is 50 points ahead of others lool

[shy hazel]

source

[livid fractal]

[shy hazel]

switch is also top pvp

[lime rivet]

Facebook, AL group, utc+8

[shy hazel]

he knws whats wrong and not

[ionic magnet]

this guy is just trolling at this point idc anymore just gonna contact staff

[lime rivet]

Like I said an hour and 10 mins ago

Do the math and send it up to ALo

[idle python]

I don't even think people care if he gets poitns deducted or not

[lament lichen]

mfw the y think its possible for a 35 point difference between rank 1 and 2

[idle python]

since it happened last dst

they're just pointing it out

[zenith tundra]

it's impossible to find people every attack u do to be 35pts ahead of u while being nr1 @lime rivet

[lime rivet]

@lament lichen it is if he was hitting people who abused the extra attacks. which was something i also said about half an hour ago

[shy hazel]

@zenith tundra can u calculate shit

im at work

[ionic magnet]

you're just making yourself look silly by defending that guy

[lament lichen]

im just gonna do the damn math with jp server lul

[odd schooner]

dont forget guys

we're -1 hour now

[idle python]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516951413411020819/554518840592039937/Screenshot_20190311-121930.png as you can clearly see, he ate at least 3 +9s

[odd schooner]

on all reset

[idle python]

going from 152x to 1554

[zenith tundra]

math is 396 pts with 35 attempts means at least 36 bonus points which is +1 each attempt

[lime rivet]

@zenith tundra thank you.

[idle python]

so 161 in 15 attempts with at least 3 attacks being +9

[zenith tundra]

also impossible because people need to be 35 pts ahead every time u attack

[lime rivet]

Now you take that, plus the reasoning on how hard it is to get the bonus in the top 10 ranks, and you take it to ALO

That constitutes proof as to why the score is not legitm

[zenith tundra]

what do i need to do to contact them? dms?

[buoyant parrot]

finally a conclusion

[lime rivet]

ALO is online, DM him, or put it in #game-feedback

[zenith tundra]

ok thanks

[buoyant parrot]

please also add me on the request for score correction

[idle python]

like I said, I don't even think avrora people care all that much

[buoyant parrot]

I don't want to be labeled disgusting~

[shy hazel]

fuck score,correction just reset the season

[random vault]

we're used to devs fucking up pvp anyway

[shy hazel]

this happened once and it happened twice

[coral wren]

All I see is bunch of tryhards getting rekt by a non tryhard

[shy hazel]

and there will be a third time

i see a trash who cant compete pvp

[coral wren]

Thats harsh. Imagine if he got lucky xd

[shy hazel]

lucky with 50 points ahead

[coral wren]

XD

[odd schooner]

so lucky

[lament lichen]

Lucky to the point where he can end the session at 2615

[coral wren]

Give update when dev responds xd. I am interested in the result

[storm pasture]

non-tryhard
still top 1 pre-maint
What?

[random vault]

just your regular non pvper trying to shit on ppl who pvp in a pvp channel, nothing to see here

[shy hazel]

do you even think true sandbaggers will aim at top one before a reset

[lament lichen]

If i use all my attempts i would only be above rank 2 by 1 point

[shy hazel]

it will always be 5/10

[random vault]

itll only be 0/10 on gensui day

[idle python]

I go to 0/10 sometimes when irl commitments happen

or last day ofc

[random vault]

though i guess some ppl would still remain 5/10 if they really wanna get that final top 10 score at last day

after gensui usually i just go for whatever seems the fastest to kill lmao

[teal saffron]

when is gensui day

[shy hazel]

sat

[teal saffron]

osht

[livid fractal]

I'm at this rank with 5/10 which gives me 1503. Top one is ahead of me by 51 points which is 5 attempts

That goes same for others

[random vault]

damn switch we have the same scores

not from avrora myself doe

[lime rivet]

I'm a merit farmer, I always go 0/10 to maximize not dropping under 1.1k or 1.2k and go for easy opponents

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

nothing wrong with farming merits but thats not the best way to farm them

[shy hazel]

i dont even need 6 charges to be at rank 800

[lime rivet]

AotN every season is too much effort because going up against sandbaggers is a pain. As long as I get up to FA every season and get as many 90-merit games, I'm happy

[ionic magnet]

yes sanbaggers are weird people

[buoyant parrot]

im on my last attack

[random vault]

sandbaggers are not human beings for sure

[shy hazel]

and thats why we know

[buoyant parrot]

check the score

[shy hazel]

when scores are weird

or not

[storm pasture]

What is the correct definition of the term "sandbagger"?

[shy hazel]

because scores is our life

[random vault]

u wait till u get overtaken enough before u attac

[buoyant parrot]

there

like what I've explain earlier

and that's with 1 missing attack

[shy hazel]

ether

[buoyant parrot]

yeah?

[shy hazel]

it seems

u still retained some

bugged scores

[buoyant parrot]

yeah most likely

[shy hazel]

i also lost only once

[shy hazel]

and u were supposed to fly

[lament lichen]

One point aboce me if i use all attempts

[shy hazel]

so u didbt sandbag much

so i should have higher score than u

but ur score higher

guess they didnt fix shit

[buoyant parrot]

I didn't right after I told you guys im dropping this season coz I miss 1 attack remember?

[lament lichen]

yeah i saw it

[hot creek]

what did you expect. same thing happen last time they messed up DST. they didnt fix shit.

[random vault]

wE fIxEd It GuYs

then theres the whole merit mail thing which idk if its compensation or a bug

[teal saffron]

free merit is good merit

[modest elbow]

probably the actual fix for the DST bug

[buoyant parrot]

OMG IM NOW GENSUI AT Fleet POWER YOSHA!!!!!

[random vault]

it seemed more like compensation for the pvp bug than anything

[buoyant parrot]

I'm all good now. This is way far harder than PvP

[ionic magnet]

noone reports a good bug

[storm pasture]

It's a bug i think but everyone is fine with it and it will be riot if they take it back so they dont bother to do anything

[random vault]

its kinda devs modus operandi anyway, compensate instead of fixing stuff

[shy hazel]

i say fuck this this will 100% happen the third time so

ill remind all hardcore frena

and enjoy the bug

[random vault]

eh it obviously will

all we can do is abuse bug

[lament lichen]

its more like the game was not intended for dst anyways

[shy hazel]

oops sorry im top one

my score is just over 9000

[lament lichen]

fleet power the true endgame

[random vault]

but fleet power means i actually need to enhance equips i dont use

[buoyant parrot]

Rechard C yup yes it is

that's the true definition of POWER! xD

[random vault]

though at least that sort of ranking is arguably the fairest

[shy hazel]

its also the most memey rankings

because the longer u played the higher chnce ur on top

[vague token]

now you're feeling motivated

MORE POWER

[shy hazel]

thank you for,wasting one week of sandbagging

[buoyant parrot]

you go palpatin, UNLIMITED POWER!

[random vault]

scouter breaks

[vague token]

i was uh... referencing devil may cry but that's cool too

[shy hazel]

peace through power

[buoyant parrot]

im so excted 200 core more and I get my 2nd Twin 381

SoDak will be happy

[vague token]

gonna get the ca gun

[random vault]

ill... prob save for shells

[buoyant parrot]

I'd love too but my priority is 381, they will go missing in the future and be only obtainable via research

[random vault]

dont think i need 2 381s

[buoyant parrot]

I beleive same goes for the CA gun

[vague token]

at least when research shows up we'll get the GUD ca guns

rng though

xD

[buoyant parrot]

^ dat

[vague token]

hopefully we get an event with shells

[ionic magnet]

just wanna confirm, nagato AND amagi wants 381mm right?

[buoyant parrot]

yup

[vague token]

gotta barrage harder

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

xD

[lime rivet]

The 381mm also gives more FP than the 410, right?

[vague token]

yeah

so the barrages scale more

ALTHOUGH since it's what, 15 difference?

it matters less for BB tier firepower

than it does for say

[shy hazel]

@buoyant parrot

[vague token]

Hood

[lime rivet]

Lemme check

[shy hazel]

can i use your name in the bug report

because both of us

got extra charges

[vague token]

might be 25 or something

[lime rivet]

20

[random vault]

the difference is not that great

[idle python]

45 for gold guns 25 for purp

[random vault]

if anything 381 is the best barrage gun but not by a great distance

[vague token]

i mean, 20 for hood is a lot more than 20 for amagi

just because their base FP is different

[lime rivet]

I wouldn't say amagi needs it, but its still nice

[random vault]

the purple 410 is still reliable

[shy hazel]

i sandbagged one point after reset so ye

[odd schooner]

power flex

[lime rivet]

Speaking of power flex

[shy hazel]

[random vault]

if u wanna power flex theres plenty of gold bb guns to use

[vague token]

i need it on amagi in order to guarantee 2nd shot before 2nd fox strike

[lime rivet]

How does the fleet power rankings get calculated?

[vague token]

cause i dont run 4 ijn xD

[random vault]

average total power

[odd schooner]

every ship equipment counts iirc

[random vault]

of all your ships in dock

[shy hazel]

gears ship levels

equipped or not equipped

[random vault]

so u gotta... equip your trash ships with good stuff

[odd schooner]

let's say the top 1 is maybe at hardcap ship dock

[idle python]

!fleetpower

[shy hazel]

is counted

[lime rivet]

Equipment needs to be equipped or does it count even in storage?

[idle python]

i forgot the command

it needs to be equipped

[lime rivet]

Oooh, nice

[shy hazel]

even storage

counts

[lime rivet]

Good reason to spend all the white and blue plates then

[zenith tundra]

@lime rivet did darkova use all his attempts at that 997 score before friday reset?

[lime rivet]

I don't know about the 997 one

He's 0/10 on the screenshot but i don't have a timestamp for that one, lemme dig

Okay, he posted that on friday 11.34am, translates to thursday 19.34-ish server time.

[zenith tundra]

so he had extra 5 attempts or something like that

[shy hazel]

zack

we almost of equal score now btw

i got one extra charge cos i sandbagged one charge

when it got bugged

[zenith tundra]

ah cool

[shy hazel]

and it didnt get removed

so i got one extra charge

that wasnt removed by the patch

im getting the gut feeling

they tried to do it manually

than by code

so some lowkey ppl like ne

me

didnt get deducted

the top one isnt even lowkey

[zenith tundra]

can u help me understand what's wrong with. he had 997 pts with 2 resets more then me having 1050 with 10/10 which would make our score even at best

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516951413411020819/554528648179482624/Screenshot_20190311-120741.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516951413411020819/554331873778597899/BlueStacks_ScreenShot.jpg

i don't understand how is it possible to be that far ahead

[lament lichen]

1473

[shy hazel]

its the dust magic

[zenith tundra]

friday same score and saturday reset i'm 40 pts behind

[lament lichen]

40 points ahead

[zenith tundra]

i cannot understand how is it possible

[lament lichen]

even now its hard for us sangbaggers to get rank 1 if we rushed

everyone up ther have weird scores

[zenith tundra]

in literally 2 days to gain 40pts over a sandbagger

[random vault]

at most we can only hope those players missed some resets

[shy hazel]

bo

i hope they get banned

which i see the chnces are low

[lament lichen]

"not sirius enough"

[zenith tundra]

if the 1st screen shoot would be before reset it would make sense

i would be 25pts ahead but then i go 40 pts behind

[lament lichen]

well its time to relax and wait for next week

[zenith tundra]

next week is rip for me

[shy hazel]

im going hiking

[zenith tundra]

friday after 2 resets i had 1150 max and sunday after reset i had 1408 pts max which means i gained 258 pts in 25 attempts while he got from 997 before reset friday +150 since it's 1 day earlier to 1473 326 pts in almost same interval that even with 30 attempts is too much.

this makes no sense

he had to gain 3 times my bonus in the same interval when people weren't even playing

maybe the strat of being top ranks works better then sandbagging

[solar pike]

Dev told me were free to use the merits

[zenith tundra]

if u see the devs tell them to learn to patch their games and stop fucking up pvp every time we change the time

[vague token]

kek

[zenith tundra]

i posted this in dms to alo
Hi, is there any way for you or someone else to check Darkova pvp score in the avrora server? After talking with people in the pvp channel it seemed like we all agreed that his score is at least 30 pts higher then anyone else even people that neve missed attempts and tried getting as many bonuses as possible. His current score has already a bonus that would be attainable only at end season in avrora server which is around 2.6k score points (considering his 1554 score with 105 attempts left, which is half of the maximum of 210 in one season and at the minimum of +10 score per battle, he would end up with 2604pts) which means either he managed in 1 week to gain a bonus that would take other players 2 weeks to get or he benefitted for extra attempts. I'm not sure how he gained the extra attempts but i strongly believe his score is not normal.
let's see what happens

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/CYhxp/3cce0233fd.png they "fixed" pvp though

[ionic magnet]

there's always that one guy in every server i guess

[zenith tundra]

the only thing that would really make sense is for people to have attacked abusers and gained a huge bonus because of that

if they didn't get any extra attempts

[stable panther]

Is it possible for them to get 30 bonus points from that?

[zenith tundra]

there was someone talking about 9k scores

at that point u would get at least +9 pts x battle

[pearl nimbus]

Also that DST reset

Is actually so dumb

[hot creek]

well, not like this season matters anyways

[pearl nimbus]

this season got munted thanks to DST

[hot creek]

unless of course you are one of the people who were at 0/10 before maint

[shy hazel]

GUYD

GUYS

no weeklies

LOL

bug again

[zenith tundra]

frick me fot never using all my attempts and getting more out of it

[teal saffron]

osht

[pearl nimbus]

wait wtf

[teal saffron]

u rite

[zenith tundra]

cool

[pearl nimbus]

PLEASE TELL ME THEY RESET MY PVP ROUNDS XD

[idle python]

did you restart your game

[pearl nimbus]

This'll be a good meme

[shy hazel]

lets see

[pearl nimbus]

They just reset rounds due to DST

[zenith tundra]

9/10 after relog

[pearl nimbus]

Please do it

[hot creek]

i'd rather abuse hard mode attempts

if anything

[ionic magnet]

more bugs

[shy hazel]

yup nope

no weekly quests

[zenith tundra]

i dunno don't feel like cheating at all

[teal saffron]

yaaay more broken stuff

[zenith tundra]

shop didn't reset tho

[charred sable]

I see nothing wrong with Darkova's current score

if I use my 9 attacks right now and get 10pts per, I'd be at 1541

[hybrid tendon]

you do realize

he also has like 10 attacks

right?

[charred sable]

if he still has 10 attacks, then yes, something would be wrong. But if he is at 0 attacks, or even 1-3 attacks, then the numbers check out

[idle python]

he's at 1554 with 5 attacks

[hybrid tendon]

you just got 5 from updates

and guess what

he also got 5 more

[charred sable]

reset happened 1hr ago though

[elder crane]

He was at that before reset

[charred sable]

because of daylight savings

[idle python]

no 12 minutes ago

[zenith tundra]

reset happened 13min ago

[hot creek]

14 mins ago

[zenith tundra]

time doesn't want to stand still

[charred sable]

I got my daily login reward reset 1hr ago though

[zenith tundra]

i just got it 15mins ago

[leaden sequoia]

I got 15mins ago

[hybrid tendon]

dst is a shit show

[elder crane]

Same, new bug or just high?

[hybrid tendon]

[ionic magnet]

lol we got different reset timers now

[echo spruce]

[hot creek]

time to blow pvp attempts

[leaden sequoia]

I guess they accounted for PDT -> PST from the previous case, but not vice versa

now they have to reverse everything

[zenith tundra]

let's have fun

i actually hope it does get fucked more

[leaden sequoia]

god please no

if this carries over to next weeks, pvp is ded

[zenith tundra]

this season is rip already

[hot creek]

more chaos, more fun

[leaden sequoia]

I don't wanna see next seasons rip too

[hot creek]

I too am using attempts

oddly enough, its giving me free +11s anyways

without sandbagging

lul

[zenith tundra]

maybe will make people sandbag more on sandy

[hot creek]

I got three free +11's and ate three +9's while rushing the rest of my charges. Perfectly balanced.

also my Lecture Hall is still bugged to hell

maybe it will fix itself in 30 mins

[vague token]

[modern tree]

Thanks for the points Phoenix

[hot creek]

PogChamp

[modern tree]

as if that maters, I am 5 charges behind

your fleet is getting smacked around by HMS tho

[hot creek]

wait, dont beat me up yet

I will switch to superior wasd defense

[ionic magnet]

oh i can see famine at rank 188 👀

[hybrid tendon]

I tried so hard and got so far

[charred sable]

Canuck-kunToday at 12:25 AM
Dear Commanders, the weekly reset did not activate at the correct time for this week. It will return to the proper reset time next week.

For this week, it will be an hour late. We apologize for the confusion.

[hybrid tendon]

and finally I almost catched up with darkova god after spending 5 more tries in refresh

[charred sable]

There you go, that explains why I got my reset 1.5hr ago while others got theirs 0.5hrs ago

[zenith tundra]

u have me in ur list rip u lol

[modern tree]

heh heh

[shy hazel]

darkova can,do magic

hell just magicallt get 10 more rounds

[hybrid tendon]

its math sir

not magic

[shy hazel]

sponsored by al devs.tm

[lament lichen]

next session we all gonna wonder where he went

[hybrid tendon]

i dont wake up at night to sandbag

for this

not to mention you are getting + 9 inside top 10

lul

[lament lichen]

Kamita at 1508

[charred sable]

I don't know who Darkova is nor do I really care, but did he have those points before or after 11pm PST?

[lament lichen]

before

[shy hazel]

i shouldve studied math than playing this game instead

i would have 9000 points in pvp

[charred sable]

so well before the window for early resetting?

[hot creek]

what the. is that an oathed Juneau I see? madman

[charred sable]

Cause, going by this screenshot and timestamp at least, I see nothing suspicious assuming his reset happened unintentionally an hour early, as explained in #game-news

[modern tree]

I figured I might as well do it now that I am grinding her exp for awakening

[shy hazel]

keri

that guy

still has five charges

he is 50 points above us all

[lament lichen]

he went from 0/10 to 10/10 right after maint

[shy hazel]

hes like god

[livid fractal]

Yes, he is 50 points ahead of us.

[charred sable]

how do you know he has 5 attacks

[shy hazel]

because thats his score

even before resey

reset

[livid fractal]

Because he didn't attack in the new reset?

Duhh

[hybrid tendon]

just wait and he will get over the limit this season

2700 incoming

[shy hazel]

were not dumb we wont complain if there nothing wrong

pls

[modern tree]

2700 is impossible with "legit" charges people have left over for rushing to 0 before maintenence

[livid fractal]

Just use all of your attempts and be at top always, have your 13k def fleets :)

Let's see if this scrub can keep up

[modern tree]

but people will have 5 extra if they did, its a fact of life. get over it

You all should be doing your had mode and daily raids just in case server "fixes" itself in 13 minutes.

[hybrid tendon]

[shy hazel]

and next time i should bug my pvp

[leaden sequoia]

but muh daily raid and event hard mode dailies

[shy hazel]

because apparentlt its math at work

excited for next dst

patch

my score will be over 9000

i just sandbagged for a year plebs

[hybrid tendon]

remember the dst bug the first time? the shop reset like 2 times each second

[shy hazel]

in the span of a day

[hybrid tendon]

it was so funny

[shy hazel]

really disappointed right now

disappointed at devs

[leaden sequoia]

I'm still of the opinion that they did learn a few lessons from DST 1.0 but didn't anticipate they had to code the game timers back (prolly due to China. Japan and Korea not using DST to begin with)

[shy hazel]

then disappointed at mods who defend abusers

i should just learn to abuse any bug

[leaden sequoia]

so I'm still hoping DST 3.0 will not happen

[shy hazel]

theyll protect me for abusing it anyways

[leaden sequoia]

or happen at much smaller scale due to minor differences between DST 1.0 and 3.0 like timers that didn't exist back in DST 1.0

[hybrid tendon]

5 more min for dst 3.0?

[charred sable]

lol, disappointed in the devs due to one small bug?

[leaden sequoia]

it's not really small at this point tho

[hybrid tendon]

I am not but this is the third time that it happen

literally

4 months ago, yesterday and today

[charred sable]

maybe its just me, but I've seen a lot, lot worse issues in past games Ive played

half of which with developers who dont even bother acknowledging the issue

[hybrid tendon]

well i just hope this wont happen again

[vague token]

i mean, if pvp were truly competitive (aka elo and stuff) then it'd be a big deal

at this point it's just awkward

[charred sable]

Yostar is probably the most transparent game company I've seen so far

[vague token]

xD

[hybrid tendon]

DST is a mistake, just like inch, foot, fahrenheit

[charred sable]

but yes, if PvP was competitive, this would definitely be a big deal

[hot creek]

oh, WC still here. Damn I should have spent the last hour finishing that up lol

[leaden sequoia]

yeah, WC till 14th as planned

[hybrid tendon]

WC is a tad bit long

but its ok so that the newbies can get all the rewards

[leaden sequoia]

it's okay

[shy hazel]

disappointment is disappointment

[hybrid tendon]

I think

[shy hazel]

small or big

[hot creek]

Oh really, I thought it was supposed end today. cool.

[shy hazel]

they just lied on fixing things

they didnt fix

[leaden sequoia]

good for farming gold equips, actually

[shy hazel]

me not losing extra points fron extta charge

[leaden sequoia]

like, where else can you get drop Seafangs

[shy hazel]

in pvp proves that

[ionic magnet]

er i still dont see my weeklies

[lament lichen]

nothing fixed

[hybrid tendon]

same

[shy hazel]

🚮

[lament lichen]

darkove at 1563 now

[elder crane]

Time to sleep I guess

[lament lichen]

from 1554

+9

[shy hazel]

who cares about the cheater

im mad at the devs not fixing things instead

empty victory

ill even smug at him if he has the face to post that in fb

trash win

🚮

[vague token]

i mean he's basically forced to eat +9 or +8 at this point xD

[odd schooner]

ty for +2 switch

[coral wren]

I would have been more amused if they punished those who benefited from that bug. That would just make it a lil extra spicy

[leaden sequoia]

🍿 material for sure

[shy hazel]

hey i didnt abuse it

i just got five extra charges

blahblah

[odd schooner]

that's a long typing

[coral wren]

Nah, i just realized i might get banned if i post that, so i have to rethink what i want to type 😄

[modern tree]

Punishing anyone is a slippery. Dev could have punished me for finishing all my daily comms in 11 minutes since I provided them my acc details for logs so they can fix it. Big abuse.

[coral wren]

Well, ye. But that would be plain hilarious. Watching one of the few gachas, that was kinda great in comparison to others for a good amount of time(even tho there is a certain asshole in localization team who likes to smell his own farts, adding retarded memes instead of making accurate translations), suddenly shooting itself in the foot.

[shy hazel]

sendai farm

go kill sirens i guess

[jovial sedge]

🤔

[clear cloud]

[hybrid tendon]

well I have already moved on

at least there is only 1 guy

and not 10

so we can compete for the other 9 slots

[shy hazel]

im the type of person that hates being cheated on

[elder crane]

There's still the possibility that there is more than 10 ppl, with the rest hiding, and only 1 person using up all their matches.

[ionic magnet]

he still wont end up near rank 1 end season anyway

he's losing points fast

[shy hazel]

i dont care about him being top 1

i just need points to be fixed

so i can get my aotn properly

[ionic magnet]

yea its all a mess this season

i lost 1 match just now idc anymore

[livid fractal]

39 points left. Lool

From 51 points ahead of me to 39

[coral wren]

[zenith tundra]

i'm at 4/10 30 behind still