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real notch
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the only downside is -20 FP

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rip gold gun

modern tree
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I dont think she needs it when shooting into the flare

real notch
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that's true

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better to lose 20% dmg than 100%

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LOL

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due to missing

modern tree
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not like her 400 fp base needs a boost

real notch
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i think sendai might be just what we need

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to punish people who rely on 20% dmg boost

modern tree
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the bullshit circle will be complete

real notch
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not just aurora but aurora sendai fleets may just

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shove everything out of the meta

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except for their mirrors lol

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especially before CA invasion

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damn, like think about it

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the effect that aurora had on meta, with 25% eva debuff

modern tree
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between her and jintsuus dumb torp stats boosted by eachother, flare and aurora, def fleets will probably be scarier than off fleets

real notch
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she locked the meta into CL meta

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now take that 25%, and make it 45%

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( i hope that's how the math works out)

modern tree
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I don't think AL does multiplicative math

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its just all additive all the time

real notch
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ya

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damnnnn

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W11 is gonna be a sendai race

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my prediction is that a lot of people are going to start losing to defense fleets now

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because they rely on 20% dmg boost too much and have shitty fleets

modern tree
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w11 is gonna be grinding race, dropping sendai and getting lvls105-110

real notch
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that when VG loses 45% EVA no attack boost will save it AquaLUL

grave gale
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381 with hfcr on amagi is 7 seconds the pop up appears and 8 the shot connects

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She fires faster than the foxes can take off. rancelaugh

real notch
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AquaLUL yea it's like exactly 8.0 sec

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from my tests 5 mins ago

modern tree
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she fires faster than belfast can smoke and usually just tears a hole big enough in the vg for the smoke to not matter anymore

real notch
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sendai might have inazuma level drop rates

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and be abysmally low

modern tree
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sounds like a challenge to me

real notch
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challenge accepted?

modern tree
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maybe I should take vacation, I work too much

real notch
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good fkin idea

modern tree
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It slightly sucks that half of the fleet that you want for pvp is useless for grinding w11

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gonna be quite an experience

real notch
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ya

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oh shit

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when is w11 coming out?

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in 5 days?

modern tree
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soontm

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5 days is just exp storage

split socket
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the next patch is only for xp storage, not w11 yet

real notch
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oh that's annoying

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i wish they came out at same time

brittle hill
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is jintsuu sendai aurora the new meta/

gilded atlas
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time to store exp for pvp fleet

real notch
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ye @brittle hill

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99.999% sure

modern tree
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dont know about the new meta, but it looks really dumb on paper

brittle hill
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I don't have jintsuu kill meeeee

split socket
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the buff and debuff stacking is outright disgusting

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but ur also running a tofu vanguard so idk

real notch
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with amagi barrage it's actually fukin disgusting

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who the fuk came up with a BB statted BC with a broken ass barrage formation that can fire before 10sec and give fleetwide evasion to foxes

split socket
real notch
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that's not even counting the FP/airpower debuff and fire defense

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AND SHE'S IJN

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i want whatever yostar developers are smoking

grave gale
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Why would you use Aurora over Sirius if you're running Foxes?

gilded atlas
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-20% evasion

modern tree
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because Aurora makes torps gross

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Sirius just makes foxes a bit stronger

grave gale
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Sirius buffs CV hit rate against all vanguard types and boosts aviation stat by 10%

idle python
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sirius hit rate is only 10%

real notch
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hmmm

modern tree
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comparing ship that makes your entire fleet better at getting rid of frontline to a ship that buffs 2 of your other ships is weird

real notch
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aurora debuff is 20% and makes opening torps a lot more reliable

gilded atlas
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sirius shitty torps too

split socket
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u have to keep in mind auroras debuff only works when shes alive

idle python
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let's just say the hit chance without any mods is 50% then with aurora it's 70% of your damage for all your members vs CL/DD while Sirius is 60% of your damage for just your CVs

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+w.e. aviation stat buff

real notch
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that's ok, aurora really only needs to be alive for first airstrike

idle python
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which is less than 10% damage

real notch
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sirius is good cus she has stacking FP boosts but

split socket
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have anyone tried a vg with sirius and aurora?

real notch
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FP boosting CLs traditionally never make it into competitive PVP

idle python
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main reason for me to use sirius would be because she lasts longer

split socket
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or one with only sirius and aonther with only aurora

real notch
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i might use sirius for her 330 AA stat

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cus that's high af

idle python
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but in terms of just hitting the opp for dmg I'd rather just do aurora

split socket
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also I don't think hit rate translates directly to -eva%

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they are different stats

grave gale
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I honestly hardly noticed a difference when using Aurora. Even with the debuff, enemies still evade quite easily.

real notch
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you're using foxes right

grave gale
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yes

real notch
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i know you've always been using foxes

grave gale
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Amagi and Foxes is what I use

real notch
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you have to have noticed the dmg increase with aurora

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even i notice it

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just the bomb dmg at 13sec is insane

gilded atlas
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true torp meme team destroying enemy with 1st air strike

idle python
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can also run both laffeyDrink

split socket
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u can already do that with sirius tho maybe rarer owo

grave gale
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What I've noticed most is the torp damage with Jintsuu. Ever since I paired her with Ayanami, the torps just melt everything

real notch
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yea jintsuu with rainbow dildo and rainbow quint

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can do 2.3-2.5k normal torp

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like 4.3.-4.5k crit torp

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sometimes 5-6k

split socket
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I've seen 4k+ but never 5k+ lol

modern tree
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Jintsuu with oxy torp is waste of a Jintsuu

real notch
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hmm based on my short testing i have considered taking off oxytorp

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but i seem to lose whenever i swap it with a defensive aux

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i am open to someone changing my mind tho AquaLUL

gilded atlas
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put on ayaya

split socket
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if ur running both aya and jin then all the rainbow torps should be on aya

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oxytorp on jin is pretty good as long as she isn't ur front tank

real notch
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naw i use juneau jintsu aurora

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so the question of sirius is

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assuming u keep aurora jintsuu

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is sirius a better option than

  1. belfast
  2. juneau
modern tree
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Between the standard 4x ehp buff in pvp and her passive, rising her HP pool is a much better force multiplier than 100 torp stat on an already pretty overstated boat. I am not saying its bad damage, I am just saying its worse than health.

real notch
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she's good, but is she better

split socket
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anything is better than jun

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kappa

idle python
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I also agree dildos are overated

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but you can get by with it just fine

real notch
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how much dmg do jintsuu (quint torp) torps do without dildo?

split socket
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raising hp is important if ur running tofu vanguards

real notch
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if it's like a 200-300 dmg decrease i can live with that

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but if it's 400+ i'm not down

split socket
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otherwise could safely swap to oxytorp for a little bit extra dmg

real notch
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but yea i get the effective HP argument

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i agree it's like +120% HP

modern tree
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I use dildo only on Belfast because compared to Jintsuu, her torps really need some help. Belfast also happens to have health to sort of support it, Jintsuu is almost a fishing boat

real notch
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if u slap on a toolkit

idle python
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based on a quick calculation using just the torp stat since we assume everything else is constant dildo inc her torp dmg by about 20%

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for lv 100 100 affection

modern tree
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not like I use belfast atm, ther's actually no point

split socket
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I beg to differ :x

modern tree
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I guess if you dont like going fast and living on the edge

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but just being agressive does as well as running belfast

split socket
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well for one I don't have aurora so I can't really go full offense ๐Ÿ˜ข

modern tree
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and not like you can really use oxy torp with 3cl, need boilers

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BOILERS

split socket
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fk boilers

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useless aux

real notch
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boilers Waaaaaaaah

split socket
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kappa

real notch
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i thought someone did the test that speed = / = dodging torps

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lol

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it only helps with BB salvos

modern tree
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it makes you dodge BB and plane bomb clusters

split socket
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u can also eat more torps

real notch
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my problem with boiler is it's just +245 hp

split socket
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and since u lose out on hp by not using torp bulge / toolbox

modern tree
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too much speed will never be an issue for 3cl I think

real notch
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that's 255 less HP than a toolkit

split socket
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it's kinda a loss already

real notch
leaden sequoia
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Daxam did talk about achieving "the perfect speed" here

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was that only applicable to DD since they're fast already?

idle python
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yeah speed is a kind of hard thing to measure

modern tree
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not getting hit by Amagis shells + plunging projectiles of her barrage is more health than 225

idle python
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in terms of dodging

real notch
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is it that reliable lol

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what if you are moving from top side of screen to middle

split socket
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amagi shells doesn't do much dmg either way since most ppl running amakaga will be using 381

real notch
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just in time to get hit by amagi barrage

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i'd be like "fuk me man, why is my VG so fast"

split socket
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boilers just feel more rng to me

modern tree
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the arrows are not the problem with amagi barrage, its actually just the 3-4 plunging projectiles that work exactly like her main gun shells

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if you get hit by that you eat shit

split socket
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ur relying on the ai to move ur fleet out of the way but it can also backfire and move u into torps that u wouldn't have taken otherwise

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love seeing fleets eat 5 torps in a row or more cause of it

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can sink enemy vg before amagis barrage lul

idle python
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well for me at least opening torps are almost never an issue for frontline but I guess more people in EN run it since there isn't much else out there

modern tree
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y'all will understand one day. You will put Boiler and Fire Supressor on YKKZ and cry

split socket
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I'll keep some general plates for when the day comes :p

idle python
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usually worse case scenario for frontline for me is juneau dies to opening torps

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(which you still do risk without boilers)

modern tree
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EN actually has no options to tank or gun so we just torp

split socket
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eldridge

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but u gotta pray to rngesus

modern tree
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I dont think I have seen Eldridge live long enough to use her skill even against my HMS

gilded atlas
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she ain't making past 20s

modern tree
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she's too slow, gets hit by actually everything

split socket
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wasda with jun front and eldridge mid are the only comps that I've ever seen survive beyond 1 min mark

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usually eldridge is the last one standing lul

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even outliving sdakota

modern tree
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You did say you dont have Aurora

split socket
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but as I said tho, rngesus soooo

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yea that may be the problem as well

modern tree
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I have done some math on Sirius since I just maxed her and with 2 CVs behind her she has actually CA tier FP (201) while holding a DD gun at 135% efficency and a godlike barrage to boot. With her HP pool and meme AA she doesn't seem so bad until you realize no matter how good her gun is, its still pvp

split socket
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her gun is pretty negliable, shes tanky however owo

real notch
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yeae AquaSmug

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3.3k hp pool is not bad tho

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higher than belfast

split socket
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belfast got higher hp owo

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it's like I said from the getgo, she has a great skill, maybe not aurora level, but in return for having a slightly worse skill she actually has decent stats to carry on her own

modern tree
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if only her torp efficency was not trash, you can get her torp stat to "okay" between oxy, her own buff and Jintsuu

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130% will just never be high enough tho

real notch
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oh mb i was thinking helena

vague token
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nice thing about season reset is all the weak teams i can toss duke/sirius against for free exp

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huh, port kai lasts surprisingly long against wasd/a if she gets there

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medium armor perks xD

zenith tundra
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i'm not sure sirius is so much worse then aurora in the greater picture tbh. i think that the aviation bonus she gives is better then a bit of extra chance of hitting vgs. u don't really win by killing vgs u win when opponent main fleet is killed. abusing ryuusei with sirius is an interesting strat imo but too bad u can't really control ryuusei burst

vague token
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yeah

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plus aurora evaporates easily

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xD

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cant debuff enemies when you're dead

zenith tundra
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i wish my sirius was max level when i tried yesterday against ender fleet

vague token
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what is she at for you?

zenith tundra
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98 now

vague token
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nice

modern tree
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"you dont really win by killing vgs" wot. What fleet are you playing if its not the one that wins by dropping bombs on the face of the main fleet aftrer VG was wiped with preemptive strike?

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where am I

zenith tundra
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amakaga itself is a bad defense comp where vg can make a big difference. well gonna wait forr bb meta to see better results with sirius

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my vg winning against a 3 bb comp made like no difference against wasda

modern tree
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I fail to see how 10% aviation would turn that around

zenith tundra
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akaga won me the match every time

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and i said in pair with ryuusei homing torp

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my vg was just there to not have enemy vg on my foxes and for the heal

vague token
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to be fair, 10% aviation does less for foxes since it stacks additive

modern tree
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I must be missing something because all Ryuusei does in this matchup is pump useless damage into sodak

vague token
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compared to other ships

zenith tundra
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Etherstar (South Dakota, Amagi, Wasington | Belfast, Juneau, Jintsuu) 13646/13149
ZackFairX (Amagi, Akagi, Kaga | Juneau, jintsuu, Aurora) 12897/12387

game 1 - win
game 2 - lost
game 3 - win
game 4 - win
game 5 - win
game 6 - lost
game 7 - lost
game 8 - win
game 9 - win
game 10 - close win

Etherstar (South Dakota, Amagi, Wasington | Belfast, Juneau, Jintsuu) 13646/13149
ZackFairX (Amagi, Akagi, Kaga | Aurora, Ayanami, Jintsuu) 12897/13323

game 1 - close win
game 2 - win
game 3 - lost
game 4 - lost
game 5 - close win
game 6 - lost

Etherstar (South Dakota, Amagi, Wasington | Belfast, Juneau, Jintsuu) 13646/13149
ZackFairX (Akagi, Amagi (380 skc), Kaga | Juneau, jintsuu, Aurora) 12897/12387

game 1 - win
game 2 - lost
game 3 - lost
game 4 - win
game 5 - win
game 6 - close win

Etherstar (South Dakota, Amagi, Wasington | Belfast, Juneau, Jintsuu) 13646/13149
ZackFairX (Kaga(ryuusei), Amagi , Akagi | Juneau, jintsuu, Aurora) 12897/12387

game 1 - win
game 2 - win
game 3 - close win
game 4 - win
game 5 - win
game 6 - close win
game 7 - close win
game 8 - win
game 9 - lost (akagi died early and juneau after 55secs)
game 10 - close win

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look at the last 10 matches with ryuusei

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vs my 1st 10 tries without

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ofc i also moved amagi on amagi

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still the difference is pretty big

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and sd dying eventually is a good thing

modern tree
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so you lost once instead of 3 times in a 10 game sample. I dare say that your changes probably actually made no difference considering how swingy wasd with amagi can be on rng effects

zenith tundra
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i lost to rng once vs 3 times with no chance

modern tree
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Other thing is that Ryuusei is actually really efficent at removing frontlines when attacking due to how close to the launch point opponents vg is, so I'd like to see noted how many times you won because your ryuusei tech wiped the vg with its torps instead of dumping damage into sodak

zenith tundra
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i'm not in the mood for arguing tbh. if u think i won 9 times instead of 7 by rng be my guess

modern tree
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Oh, I am not really arguing, I am just having fun. If we were arguing I'd probably ask how are those results that you got while using Aurora proving that Sirius is good, since that was what started it. Ryuusei doing good/better on offense does not surprise me

zenith tundra
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because me killing enemy vg fast did nothing for me. i never won because my vg won. i won by removing amagi from the picture and not getting imploded by bb shoots

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higher aviation is higher dmg on my ryuusei torp that was the thing that helped doing that

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i wanted to remove jintsuu so badly but ijn buff is too good

modern tree
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one more thing, are you sure repositioning your amagi was not the thing doing it?

zenith tundra
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Etherstar (South Dakota, Amagi, Wasington | Belfast, Juneau, Jintsuu) 13646/13149
ZackFairX (Akagi, Amagi (380 skc), Kaga | Juneau, jintsuu, Aurora) 12897/12387

game 1 - win
game 2 - lost
game 3 - lost
game 4 - win
game 5 - win
game 6 - close win

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lost 2 out of 6 with amagi on amagi

gilded atlas
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pretty weird you're getting 50% win rate with ayaya aurora jintsuu

zenith tundra
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aya does nothing against 3 bbs. getting her in front of them and she just evaporates

split socket
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aurora was front in that 50% no?

gilded atlas
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yeah swap jintsuu and aurora position

zenith tundra
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when i tried aya my goal was to use aya to kill bbs

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the problem is that it just doesn't happen because amagi

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there is no reason to have aurora in the middle. u don't need her past vg dead

gilded atlas
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jintsuu ayaya aurora

modern tree
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she is not in the middle to survive

zenith tundra
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why... jintsuu is more important the aurora

gilded atlas
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aurora is more important

split socket
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auroras skill is only active when shes alive, thats why

zenith tundra
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if ur jintsuu dies torp are memes

split socket
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and jintsuu is tankier

modern tree
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she is in the middle to tank the BB aux instead of Ayanami when you break the VG smugBucky

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You run Jintsuu front because she can tank torps the best

zenith tundra
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i never lost vg and vg winning was never a sure win

modern tree
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between bulge and her passive

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and having light armour

zenith tundra
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and when she gets to bb insta dead because twin 127 shreds vgs

modern tree
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yes, and? if you use ayaya to shred bbs then would you rather she gets rekt by BBs?

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I am not sure what is the logic there

zenith tundra
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the point was jintsuu tanking instead of aurora what does aya have to do with this

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look having aurora survive is pointless because she's bad. jintsuu has a chance at actually dealing damage on bb compared to aurora

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why lose jintsuu 1st vs losing aurora 1st

split socket
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if u have time, can u at least try swapping their position ?

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and do the tests again

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let us know how it goes

gilded atlas
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your main damage is akaga dropping bombs on their main

zenith tundra
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i had ender in my list yesterday and won by accident so cannot try anymore

split socket
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^ that's also what I've been noticing

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winning vg early allows akaga to drop bombs on backline which is pretty huge

modern tree
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Look, I will just break it down for you. Jintsuu Aurora Ayanami. Jintsuu is the tankiest ship in this VG and tanks torps the best so she goes up front, its hard to argue that. Yes you will lose her, but she will fire the rainbow quint with her dumb high efficency and then protect your other pieces, so its fine. Aurora is mid because you absolutely cant risk losing her to RNG opening. Additionally, she will protect Ayanami from BB aux fire once you break through the VG. Aya is back because it's safer for her than front and she will live the longest vs the BB auxes there, giving you the biggest chance to torp them in the face. Jintsuu torping the BBs would be cool too, but you can't just not take damage

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the damage has to go somewhere

zenith tundra
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u think u can lose either aurora or jintsuu vs belfast and jintsuu openeing torp??

ionic magnet
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no question, aurora is still way better than sirius. i still won games with sirius from my testing but aurora just makes the games more one sided

zenith tundra
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against no vg defense amakaga?

split socket
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@ionic magnet did u try against same comp?

gilded atlas
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from my experience jintsuu rarely dies to opening torp even in mirror match up with stronger opening torps

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when you're the attacker

zenith tundra
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for ship to die against torp either they just collide or u just collect all torp

split socket
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@zenith tundra opening torp from bel & jin along with amagi barrage can definitely kill aurora

zenith tundra
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it's like 1/20 chance if not even lower

split socket
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a dead aurora won't be helping ur foxes at all which is the main dmg dealer in amakaga

zenith tundra
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amagi was top no barrage on vg in wasda @split socket

ionic magnet
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yes tried against 3 comps, all amakaga just varying VGs. results are pretty consistent

zenith tundra
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i know aurora makes u kill dumb vgs fast and amakaga is weak to vgs

gilded atlas
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well that explains the 50% wr

zenith tundra
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easy win i use that all the time

odd schooner
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Now this, i can backread

zenith tundra
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don't bother

split socket
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endless debate about amakaga vg ๐Ÿ˜„

zenith tundra
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too few people with maxed wasda

real notch
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i have maxed wasda AquaDerp

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want me to test anything?

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i was just thinking swapping over

zenith tundra
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put that as def fleet so i can hope i can have fun with it once i get u on my list LeanderXD

real notch
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u know

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not that i've tested against any (but u did)

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i never knew they were so successful

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i thought it was a meme comp

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you had like a 70-80% winrate right

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that's quite low

zenith tundra
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yeah with normal comp i use all the time

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took me swap amagi and ryuusei for 90%

real notch
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interesting

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and ayaya didn't work at all

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(that part i could predict but GWahreeVampySmug for any other aya supporters)

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what rank are u rn

zenith tundra
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without jesus heal u cannot last long enough to have a real chance

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406 shoots really implodes foxes

real notch
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i'm 1703

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u might have to climb a bit

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to fight me

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424 points

zenith tundra
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i'm gonna try don't really care about this season

zenith tundra
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406 on sd too

real notch
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maybe i swap 410 for 406

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for more VG dmg

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ok

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but 2x SG for both?

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or do u wanna test with FCRs

odd schooner
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@real notch that's my loadout atm

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Except beaver on sodak

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I can't lose accuracy stat on amagi

real notch
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is sodak that weak

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don't u wanna preserve the amagi fleet buffs

odd schooner
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You want her to survive longer

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Cause some people use ryuusei

zenith tundra
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i ended up at 431... well if u want leave it there so i can try again after next reset

odd schooner
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Just slap amagi on top

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Less time she gets kekd

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Washington can live on bottom slot

coral wren
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when should I use my refresh?. I keep getting ppl who dosnt play at all on my leftmost.

real notch
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ok give this a shot i guess

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idk about aurora's effectiveness in a wasd fleet but Shrug

ionic magnet
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aurora front is a bad idea smugBucky

zenith tundra
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i would go for belfast because she can keep jesus alive for longer so u can have max use out of her heal

real notch
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nyeh

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ok i'll do that too

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i gotta rearrange all my auxs now

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reee

odd schooner
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I want to try Sheffield tbh

coral wren
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when do u guys do ur entries on pvp? like what would u do if u dont get a enemy that does their runs.

odd schooner
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And Sheffield skill sticks even if she sinks right

zenith tundra
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@coral wren idk i usually only use them if my list has opponents lower then me but that only happens late season. so i pretty much never use them

odd schooner
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@coral wren if left pushes when I'm awake ofc

ionic magnet
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aurora still makes your opening torps deadly but yea id go belfast instead for defense

coral wren
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I waited like 2 hours for this dude to finally push up

odd schooner
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It's a pretty long wait

coral wren
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should I just do my runs if the leftmost guy is not moving at all?

zenith tundra
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winning by vg is fine an all but akaga will make it impossible. u most likely loose vg before u have a chance that jintsuu aurora jesus can kill stuff with torp on defense

ionic magnet
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just wait til like 30 mins before reset

odd schooner
#

You gotta check timezones too

coral wren
#

I mean its bad enough I ma in washington which is like suepr dead in pvp...

#

I am unlucky af too and gets 1-2 enemies that actually pushes per reset

#

and I check hourly

real notch
#

ok done

ionic magnet
#

1-2 per reset is very normal tho

real notch
#

this is a 6 oathed maxed fleet

coral wren
#

does most ppl do their runs at 30 mins left?

real notch
#

i have
belfast - pearl + bulge
jintsuu - dildo toolkit
juneau - toolkit bulge

zenith tundra
#

i try to do them around 10-20 mins left

real notch
#

4x SG on backline

#

HCFR + badge

coral wren
#

ok I will try that.

zenith tundra
#

so i don't get last min sandbaggers in my list

real notch
#

ppl plz test against me if you see me Waaaaaaaah

coral wren
#

I live in UTC +1... so rip next reset is at 3am for me.

#

ever since I started playing this game. I basicly sleep after 5am when long night comms comes

zenith tundra
#

gonna try the hell out of that comp since i have new ideas and ships (sirius)

#

now i just have to pray i end up same score as u

ionic magnet
#

i love sirius but she just cant replace aurora

real notch
#

i am at 440 points

ionic magnet
#

whats your ign

#

ill try to find you also

zenith tundra
#

im at 431 but no refreshes

real notch
#

mine? it's Tanamichi

ionic magnet
real notch
#

yes

#

together we shall end this wasda debate

#

since u did amakaga offense i'll find a wasda offense vs amakaga

#

and see how it fares

zenith tundra
#

i think sirius is a better ship then aurora in the case u don't really care about winning by vg and just want to deal as much dmg as possible to enemy mainfleet

real notch
#

if there is higher winrate with wasda at least we can conclude wasda is more consistent on offense

odd schooner
#

wasda debate nani

zenith tundra
#

i would set it if i had oaths on washy and sd

real notch
#

AquaLUL i am old man player from FW so naturally i oathed my american babies

zenith tundra
#

but with 110 inc even trying to get max oath rn would be useless because it's gonna take a while before i can awaken them to 110

odd schooner
#

Me and sumire have been using wasd def for a long time now

#

So does ether๐ŸŒŸ

zenith tundra
#

i only found u once and was rushing so rip me

odd schooner
#

Ye our def is pointless cause we sandbag too

real notch
#

sumire uesaka?

odd schooner
#

Yep

ionic magnet
#

how to wasd with no wash longcryland

real notch
#

owo

modern tree
#

y'all are in for a pile of dissapointment

leaden sequoia
#

Wash resident here, I just spend all charges at the start of the season for 2-3 days so that I could be among PvP-ers

#

if I don't do so, I'll get "dead" opponents and have to progress with no bonus

zenith tundra
#

looks worse then sandy lol

coral wren
#

alot worse. litterally dead server

odd schooner
#

Tbf wasda still needs those white shells

#

So I'm not buying anything till shells arrive

zenith tundra
#

also nanoda too

#

frick jintsuu i would run belfast nanoda jesus for wasda

ionic magnet
#

whats nanoda btw

real notch
#

:ykkz:

ionic magnet
#

ooo

real notch
#

wtf

#

my yukikaze emote nana_cry

#

where is it

ionic magnet
real notch
#

ah there it is

modern tree
#

wasd a does not outperform wasd e, from my rahter extensive tests when Amagi was first a thing. 3BBs are mostly gambling and the most effective way to run wasd a I found is to just play with meme suicide IJN frontline because then you see the result of your gambling faster

zenith tundra
#

wasd e never been a problem as def fleet

modern tree
#

therfore wasd amagi also shouldnt be

zenith tundra
#

enty is trash for defense and she really just stalls for as long as her cloak last

odd schooner
#

Wasd E dies in less than 30s

#

WasdA doesn't

#

That's why people stopped using wasd too

zenith tundra
#

amagi debuffs and extra evasion are what makes that wasd so strong also the ability to fast delete a fox 2nd only to hood for now

odd schooner
#

Feels like even in offense, they're having trouble with foxes

#

So the population of Washington fleet died off

#

Became fox defense

#

For a server that had Washington infestestation for like 2 months

zenith tundra
#

i would love to try wasda mirrors lol

odd schooner
#

I do that with sumire if i have free time

shy hazel
#

oh yeah its u

#

gurenn

#

your team was annoying ytd

#

i had to replace aya with bel

#

else wouldve lost

odd schooner
shy hazel
#

your wasda is maxed is it

#

13.7k fleet power on backline

odd schooner
#

Ye

#

13.646

shy hazel
modern tree
#

the thing is that Enterprise has way higher AA than Amagi and dodge doesnt really affect plane suicide damage, so I do not see how wasd amagi would live so much longer than wasd e for it to be significant. Either way, I found them performing the same on offense 80% winrates against everything, nothing matters sandyparty

hot creek
#

wasdA defense with suicide torps/Juneau is annoying as fuck.

#

best defense imo

shy hazel
#

gurenn uses that exactlt

#

annoying asf

zenith tundra
#

u use amagi top so she doesn't get demolished by torp bombers

real notch
#

wait

ionic magnet
#

thats the time you bring out your own jesus OWARIDA

real notch
#

i'm at 13636

#

are u using 5 SGs

#

or 4

zenith tundra
#

amagi top does not die easily to akaga

ionic magnet
#

same with enty tho

shy hazel
#

i have a feeling

ionic magnet
#

you put her top and alls well

real notch
#

i thought u had same comp as me Waaaaaaaah

shy hazel
#

if nagato isnt released

#

wasd ama is greater with white shells

zenith tundra
#

enty cannot kill a fox compared to amagi that puts a high amount of pressure on backlines with her barrage

odd schooner
#

Wait let me check

zenith tundra
#

it's even worse when a backline eats all amagi barrage instead of it hitting vg

ionic magnet
#

well enty wins you games as long as she can fire a 2nd airstrike

odd schooner
#

Oh lmao it's on my phoenix

modern tree
#

Enty puts high amount of pressure on backlines with her planes. If Amagi can kill a backliner with 70% proc, so can Enterprise, except its Wash proc not hers

real notch
#

nani Waaaaaaaah

zenith tundra
#

enty touchdown dmg is very low compared to akaga

odd schooner
#

Ye when i do d3 i slap Beaver in and since i have 5 +10 sg, i just put sg on sodak for replacement

zenith tundra
#

and her load gets eaten by vgs

odd schooner
real notch
#

ohhhh

modern tree
#

its touchdown +cuda torps vs target that ate wash barrage

real notch
#

that would explain the 10 fleet power difference

#

makes sense makes sense

odd schooner
modern tree
#

reminder that normal shells of wash barrage reck medium armour

real notch
#

i just used like 300 purple plates to set up my wasda

ionic magnet
#

its unfair to compare enty to 2 ships, we compare whole fleet instead

zenith tundra
#

u still cannot put on same plane a x2 dmg that does little to nothing on enemy backlines vs 9% reduced offensives stats and 10% evasion and fire dmg reduction

shy hazel
#

u should fight gurren next time

#

i tell u its annoyingly

#

effective

#

as def

real notch
#

what's your offense fleet

shy hazel
#

alot better than wasde

real notch
#

can i see it

shy hazel
#

meta foxes lol

ionic magnet
#

finding maxed wasd fleets is just as annoying cos theyre so rare nowadays

real notch
#

amakaga?

#

what about the fleet power AquaDerp

shy hazel
#

aurora jint belfast

odd schooner
#

@shy hazel wait, can I know if sodak shoots 2 or 3 shells

shy hazel
#

all oathed

odd schooner
#

Keep switching maingun

shy hazel
#

13k both

real notch
#

i see

shy hazel
#

sodak shoots 3becausr she survives

real notch
#

so not maxed

shy hazel
#

for a long time

odd schooner
#

Oh 3 thanks

zenith tundra
#

if u compare enty dmg to amagi dmg then yes enty would be better but overall amagi still way better

shy hazel
#

lazy to put oaths of vg to 200

#

until 120 comes

real notch
#

well, standard BiS amakaga should not be over 12900

zenith tundra
#

why are people moving in my list when i'm at 7/10... wtf

real notch
#

it should be like 12888 or 12905

ionic magnet
#

12897

odd schooner
#

I modified my amakaga to at least bait reppu

real notch
#

ya whatever it is, depends on whether u use badge on amagi or SG

shy hazel
#

im using reppu and vf17

real notch
#

yep me2

#

i think that is the best fighter combination

#

atm

shy hazel
#

and double elevatorssmugBucky

real notch
#

unless if you have 2x reppuu

zenith tundra
#

if u want to bait reppu u use reppu-gold cuda and vf-17-ryuusei? or just use junkers?

shy hazel
#

doesnt mattee vs guren actually

#

foxes almost do no dmg

#

on first strike

#

cos juneau

real notch
#

no, reppuu baiting is just running a 60 speed fighter and a 50 speed fighter

#

if you de-sync your launchtimes for twinfox you risk spacing out your clump too much

zenith tundra
#

yes but as i use vf-gold cuda and reppu-ryusei i don't think it works because of launch speed

shy hazel
#

ryuusei

#

๐Ÿค”

real notch
#

personally, i don't think it's ryuusei time yet

#

though ryuusei time will come

zenith tundra
#

i don't have a 2nd gold cuda

real notch
#

once you have hiryuu

#

u can slap ryuusei on her

#

and watch her 6x torp 1 backline ship

shy hazel
#

i wish we get

#

white shells alrdy

zenith tundra
#

still kaga dmg with torp bombers is pretty good

shy hazel
#

still got lots of days before next event

#

well

#

they putting w11 first

#

so maybe

#

no event for a month

zenith tundra
#

u can bait reppu if u use dual gold cuda impossible with 2 different torp unless u use reppu on the faster torp

#

next event should be right at the end of the month

shy hazel
#

sendai rush

zenith tundra
#

i want nanoda rush

shy hazel
#

vdir rerun still feels so far

#

double reppu

real notch
#

you mean nanoda cuck

shy hazel
zenith tundra
#

"Visitors Dyed in Red" Event

JP Server: March 27th - April 10th 2018
CN Server: March 29th - April 12th 2018
For information on the initial run of the event, visit this page.
shy hazel
#

theyre taking their time so i think

#

after w11

#

is suba

#

then event

#

although subs are meh

zenith tundra
#

how is it far away when both cn and jp got it this month 1 year ago

shy hazel
#

i mean they announced

#

no reruna

modern tree
#

they wrote a letter saying "no reruns this year" basically

shy hazel
#

for en

zenith tundra
#

they wrote a letter that said rerun content will be omitted in upcoming events for a while

velvet fossil
zenith tundra
#

1st vdir is not a new event

modern tree
#

ykkz is rerun content

zenith tundra
#

but vdir is not new content

real notch
#

it's ok, imagine rolling for nanoda 150 times and not getting her

#

you are saving yourself from the pain

zenith tundra
#

2nd i could totally see vdir rerun so people can have ships that were available before they started playing or like in washy case before the server had access to them

shy hazel
#

inb4 vdir will rerun but without new,ships

zenith tundra
#

"Visitors Dyed in Red" Event

JP Server: October 27th - November 9th 2017
CN Server: September 28th - October 12th 2017
EN Server: September 30th - October 19th 2018
For information on the rerun of the event, visit this page.
#

does this ring a bell too?

#

same time 1 year earlier

#

i see no reason why it wouldn't be the same for rerun too

shy hazel
#

well see soon

zenith tundra
#

considering announcements these day we'll see maybe by 20th so like 2 weeks

shy hazel
#

so basically means

#

no nagato

zenith tundra
#

it would be a 2 weeks break in between events and with next event just 2 more new ships for most people

#

nagato event will be in may like jp/cn i see no reason why we would get it sooner then them

ionic magnet
#

i just want any event at this point

zenith tundra
#

next event will be end month lol

#

like 3 weeks from now

ionic magnet
#

3 weeks is too long for an event imo

#

and then add another 2 weeks break

zenith tundra
#

say that to people that can't keep up

shy hazel
#

let casual be casuals

zenith tundra
#

also 2 weeks break for new level cap and w11

ionic magnet
#

mm yea w11 might solve my boredom for a while

zenith tundra
#

i'm back at farming for maya already

shy hazel
#

you realize jp and cn also getting delayed

ivory vine
#

i prefer 3 weeks with shorter breaks than 2 weeks with longer breaks

shy hazel
#

cos of en

ivory vine
#

but it seems we got 3 weeks with same break

zenith tundra
#

jp/cn players mush hate en

ivory vine
#

i mean

ionic magnet
#

p much 1 event per month

ivory vine
#

it's not our fault

#

they could still make new content for older servers

ionic magnet
#

when you can finish an event in less than a week

ivory vine
#

i mean

zenith tundra
#

i thought about that a lot @shy hazel

ivory vine
#

you can easily finish the farming

#

but the building

#

can easily take the whole event

ionic magnet
#

oh yea ive been lucky recently i forgot building

zenith tundra
#

why isn't jp/cn getting new stuff outside of events and the answer is en servers

shy hazel
#

they now have thousands of cube

#

cos of that

ionic magnet
#

lol

zenith tundra
#

u waste them on research unless u have all the pr already

#

still might use them for equip tho

ionic magnet
#

inb4 new event pool needs 3 cubes per roll

zenith tundra
#

sr rate to 15% instead of 7% then

shy hazel
#

ill have about 400 cubes next event at this rate

#

so slow

#

from 0

#

if vdir rerun comes

zenith tundra
shy hazel
#

i only need to aim for two ships

#

nanoda and dildo horn

zenith tundra
#

i want vdir for 2nd ryuusei too

shy hazel
#

2nd reppu

#

id prefer fw rerun tbh

zenith tundra
#

i would still run vf-17 over a 2nd reppu tbh

shy hazel
#

second gold director

zenith tundra
#

hsfcr?

shy hazel
#

ye

zenith tundra
#

i want 3 of them for a full bb comp lol

shy hazel
#

its a retardedly broken item

#

high hit high fp with 15% first shot

zenith tundra
#

it's broken for pvp mostly for pve it just changes a bit the timing

shy hazel
#

i wont care about pve after i get all story ships

#

i dont think w11 will take much

#

no ssr there anyways

#

the next hard thing to 100%

#

is probably subs

#

wonder if we will have rate up for,subs

#

when its here

primal wing
#

Oh hey, a club! Belfast/Aurora build please? Zwave

zenith tundra
#

i don't really want subs that badly outside for the nice looking pictures they have LeanderXD

buoyant parrot
#

apparently someone bump into my fleet in the #avrora-general and was having hard time with it... swt

shy hazel
#

ether fleet isnt that bad to beat

buoyant parrot
#

yeah

shy hazel
#

someone give that person aurora belfat build

zenith tundra
#

it's a nice comp compared to trash amakagas these days

ionic magnet
#

like loadout?

shy hazel
#

probably gears

primal wing
#

Sure, a load out sounds lovely.

ionic magnet
#

er generally you put belgun, quad mag torps, bofors, torp bulge, toolkit

zenith tundra
shy hazel
ionic magnet
#

i only have 1 bofor fumizukiStare

shy hazel
#

the obly two ships where i use belgun

buoyant parrot
#

sad potato la

zenith tundra
#

i use belgun on jintsuu too

ionic magnet
shy hazel
#

i prefer tabasco anytime

ionic magnet
#

or if you have no spare twin 127s for jesus

shy hazel
edgy jetty
#

UFO is much better

buoyant parrot
#

UFO is for backline tho

zenith tundra
#

i use bofors for 2nd aa hit against akaga

edgy jetty
#

No u use that on vanguard cause I am thot

buoyant parrot
#

X__x

ionic magnet
#

ufo is good too idrc about min maxing AA cos its not really noticeable

zenith tundra
#

well my fleet has 4 bofors

#

idk if i should change or not. not into aa min-max yet

ionic magnet
#

should be fine as long as its a gold aa gun entyLUL

#

tho from what i read before, its not that good to stack too much bofors

zenith tundra
#

i just want the 2nd aa hit against akaga

ionic magnet
#

when optimising something, its usually somewhere in the middle so maybe throw 1 or 2 ufos there

#

but then again how can we even test that

modern tree
#

afaik "optimal" is 1 ufo 3 bofors for the fox fleet, but just having the gold stats is probably about as good as having optimised aa

zenith tundra
#

i can use that. who would be better as ufo user?

modern tree
#

you use juneau, right? its her

zenith tundra
#

ok

modern tree
#

160% efficency with AA mode sandyparty

ionic magnet
#

juneau users renownThumbsUp

buoyant parrot
#

im here

zenith tundra
#

the only thing juneau doesn't do well is rushing

#

better use aya/bel for that

buoyant parrot
zenith tundra
#

but she's more consistent then the other 2 imo

#

i want that but not with enty

buoyant parrot
#

yeah

#

i love it with my sodak and wash and amagi

ionic magnet
#

yea consistency is most important

primal wing
#

Okay, so I donโ€™t have a second gold belgun. What would be second best? hipperMad

ionic magnet
#

tbtsk

#

twin150mm iirc?

buoyant parrot
#

well if no belgun

primal wing
#

Okie dokie.

buoyant parrot
#

use twin 150mm

zenith tundra
#

i'm curious when the coming soon(tm) meme will end in announcements and we get some dates

primal wing
#

27k gold later, all done. Sweet, thanks guys.

zenith tundra
#

pvp is very costly and not really worth the investment if u don't like it

buoyant parrot
#

pvp = makes me want to min-max everything = all content ez breezy

modern tree
#

not like dumping money on tbtsk is gonna bite him in the ass

zenith tundra
#

unless u like to switch equip every 10mins

#

belgun +10 is not even that good as bb secondary

shy hazel
#

casuals should stay away from pvp

zenith tundra
#

i want people to play pvp i just don't want them to put meme fleets on defense

odd schooner
#

The only part I want players do is probably the essex event in the future

zenith tundra
#

i'm gonna sell my al account if we get trash essex class event next instead of vdir rerun

ionic magnet
#

reruns are the last thing you should expect next event tho

#

after all that mess with sirius

zenith tundra
#

i just don't want more trash cv in my dock

#

the only cv i want is centaur. outside of her all of them can be removed from al

ionic magnet
zenith tundra
#

also the 2 reasons why i can totally see vdir next event are
1st make perfect sense considering jp/cn calendar
2nd it wouldn't a totally new event so people could get ships that were available before they started playing or like in washy case before the server had access to them while still overall most people would only need 2 new ships

odd schooner
#

Oira we need another unicorn

#

Banshee

mental sierra
#

Any of you have a maxed Sirius up and running yet? Mine's close. I'm gonna be using her instead of Belfast if I run into fleets that aren't running foxes

#

I'm running Amakaga and I feel like a maxed Sirius would make them kill even faster if I don't need smoke

zenith tundra
#

sirius is not better then aurora(most people opinion on her)

mental sierra
#

I'm also using Aurora

#

my current vanguard is Belfast, AyaKai, Aurora

#

so against non-fox opponents it'd be Sirius, AyaKai, Aurora

#

accuracy overload

#

plus more aviation

ionic magnet
#

i had the worst results with aurora+sirius

#

aurora alone is already good enough from what i tested

mental sierra
#

I agree she's good enough alone

#

I'm going for the overkill against people not using foxes though

#

Belfast does nothing if there aren't foxes

ionic magnet
#

sirius torps is just horrible that she doesnt add anything significant with aurora already there

mental sierra
#

and I don't have Jintsuu

#

my argument is she'd add more than Belfast if there aren't foxes

#

I agree Sirius would be terrible against foxes

zenith tundra
#

no jintsuu no torp to care for... maybe i should retire my jintsuu

mental sierra
#

โšฐ

ionic magnet
mental sierra
#

Do you guys have an alternate suggestion? I guess I could just use Juneau and be immortal

odd schooner
#

I'm waiting for sendai and just do overkill vanguard

mental sierra
#

again, only referring to against non-fox fleets

ionic magnet
#

prolly fine then if you have no jintsuu

odd schooner
#

Sendai aurora sirius

mental sierra
#

yup

#

gonna be sexual

#

nothing's gonna miss

#

ever

#

โšฐ

odd schooner
#

Definitely not against mirror

mental sierra
#

@hybrid obsidian Thanks for doing your matches

hybrid obsidian
#

u r welcomed

vague token
#

collusion jk

mental sierra
#

I've already missed 3 matches this season

vague token
#

oof

hybrid obsidian
#

see, hence y i just do all an hr before reset

mental sierra
#

I've gotten AotN having missed 10 matches before so I'm not too worried about missing 3 just yet

#

still annoying though

#

I like being at a multiple of 5 or 10 on my total exercises

#

which means at the end of the season I'm gonna have to purposely skip 2

hybrid obsidian
#

im at 2, 7, 2, 7 now, quite annoyed

#

but dun wanna skip

mental sierra
#

Yeah I'm also alternating 2s and 7s

hybrid obsidian
#

Duke and Sirius r quite fun in pvp, have you guys tried?

vague token
#

ive been sneaking them in since there's plenty of poor gear or weak comps

#

but i havent been looking at damage charts

#

so dunno

zenith tundra
#

duke multiple times with hms still waiting for max oath and skills

mental sierra
#

My Duke and Sirius aren't 100 yet. Getting close. They're both 95 with all skills maxed

hybrid obsidian
#

dmg chart GWovoWhoDesu

#

lul, well, i havent checked up on anything, but so far I can say I enjoy the 2 shipgirls

#

make my cranes stronk uniFlex

vague token
#

xD

hybrid obsidian
#

but then again, havent seen 13k teams since new reset so cant tell much

vague token
#

i think sirius just makes my hiryuu mvp's even more damaging

hybrid obsidian
#

lood thicc ships w decent skills, I like

vague token
#

and unlike aurora she wont die as fast xD

zenith tundra
#

but u wan aurora dead so she can use tear

vague token
#

i need aurora alive

#

because i dont have foxes

#

if she dies before 20, she might as well not exist

#

xD

mental sierra
#

Oof

#

Wait

#

does Aurora's debuff not persist after her death?

zenith tundra
#

then just remove her

vague token
#

no, her debuff is only while alive

mental sierra
#

You're right

vague token
#

at least according to wiki wording

mental sierra
#

I couldn't remember if the text said "While alive"

ionic magnet
#

yea you dont use aurora if its not with amakaga

mental sierra
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since shit like QE's buff is broken and doesn't care if QE gets murdered

vague token
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i used aurora back during wasd/e

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because i was using Minne

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20 seconds of gunnery time

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is plenty

hybrid obsidian
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huh

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u guys kill aurora first?

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why tho

vague token
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eldridge/aurora/minne could kill whoever was leading in that meta

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if it was juneau

zenith tundra
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Dawn While alive in fleet, decreases the evasion rate of all enemy destroyers and light cruisers by 10% (20%).

vague token
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or eldridge

hybrid obsidian
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lul, aurora doesnt like me laffeyDrink

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i just got her like ytd

mental sierra
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Yeah, I checked it renownThumbsUp

ionic magnet
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she dies first cos shes squish, even if put in middle VG

hybrid obsidian
vague token
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she has the hp of jintsuu with no retro boost for 20% damage reduction

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she dies first basically always

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xD

zenith tundra
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jesus can manage faster tho

hybrid obsidian
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i would still use her even if i dont do foxes GWahreeVampySmug

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my foxes aint even max leveled

mental sierra
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Alright fuck it, I'mma go down to 5/10 already. tired of waiting

hybrid obsidian
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thats how i roll nowaday

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still ez admiral, no need to wait

zenith tundra
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5/10 and rank 59 in my list... what did i do to deserve it?

mental sierra
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you didn't miss matches, that's what

zenith tundra
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i used 3 attempts earlier to try and get someone in my list lol

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+0 bonus btw

mental sierra
vague token
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how many points do you have lol

zenith tundra
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448 now

mental sierra
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I just fought a fleet that used prince of wales but only had 1 USS ship in it

vague token
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oh wow, im at 388 with 5/10 xD

mental sierra
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wat

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did you miss matches?

vague token
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nope

mental sierra
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wow

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because

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I'm at 419 at 5/10 and I missed 3

modest elbow
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GWmiyanoSip i'm at 439 an 5/10

mental sierra
vague token
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owo

zenith tundra
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i don't even care about this season just playing for aotn for the extra merit

vague token
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it was probably taking a 32, a 26, then multiple 20s and a 17 xD

mental sierra
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yeah lol

hybrid obsidian
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i got like 3 rows of bulins that r untouched

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lul

mental sierra
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though, for 2 seasons in a row I've completely said fuck it in the first few days so I could never get past Colonel

hybrid obsidian
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just use some for the HMS gals but like, not alot of purpose for em nowaday

zenith tundra
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last season went for top 10 end season but slept on 3 attempts at the last season reset

mental sierra
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Why are you BUYING the purins before you need them? LeanderXD I couldn't do that to my dock

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I just save the currency

hybrid obsidian
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i got 690 space

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nani

mental sierra
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Jesus

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you're a monster

hybrid obsidian
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hn, there s that dude w 1900 space

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im just a pleb

zenith tundra
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i only have 300 and barely have 8 purins

mental sierra
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if you're a pleb, I'm literally not even a person

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270 space, 95.1% collection, 2 purins

hybrid obsidian
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๐Ÿ‘€

vague token
hybrid obsidian
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my collection rate is 85

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lul

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only map i do is 61 and 72

mental sierra
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Mmmm, Person only missing the monthly

hybrid obsidian
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i dont grind for ship girls unless the ones i want

mental sierra
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fuckin' lucklet

hybrid obsidian
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ye, i got bored of azur

zenith tundra
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89.4% for me missing a lot of retros still

mental sierra
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I grind random girls because nothing else to do but don't ever get them

hybrid obsidian
mental sierra
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Any way, in this game I care more about my collection % than literally anything else, so that's my priority

modest elbow
mental sierra
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If I ever miss an event exclusive girl and it's already the rerun so there probably won't be another one, I'll probably just quit the game

vague token
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that's because the game is actually fair xD

modest elbow
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||i'm at 99.2||

mental sierra
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renownThumbsUp yeah buddy

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I almost missed Z46. I was on the verge of quitting, but there would've still been a KMS event rerun

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I was just salty and annoyed

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finally got her in the last 4 days of the event

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went down to 70 cubes

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all my salt and anger

shy hazel
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heyy

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tatsuya is here

hybrid obsidian
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hey

shy hazel
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@hybrid obsidian Zwave

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your def fleet was annoying

hybrid obsidian
shy hazel
hybrid obsidian
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which one

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lul

shy hazel
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wasda jint

mental sierra
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I needed 1 reset to beat Tatsuya. Your Juneau lived too long on the first attempt, so it ended up negating all my first launch damage

hybrid obsidian
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i just put whatever i have geared when farming

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oh, wasd w sandyWink

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or was it not

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๐Ÿค”

mental sierra
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I don't remember your backline

shy hazel
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u and gurren probably had tge best wasdama fleet i fought

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recently

mental sierra
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I just remember you had Juneau

hybrid obsidian
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ye

shy hazel
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wasdama juneau jintsu aurora

hybrid obsidian
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my most recent change was cranes + amagi

shy hazel
hybrid obsidian
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i dont have aurora

shy hazel
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or i thiblnk

hybrid obsidian
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until ytd

shy hazel
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it was ayanami

hybrid obsidian
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it was indeed sandyMeme

shy hazel
hybrid obsidian
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i mean it was sandy, pretty surr

shy hazel
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and yeah

hybrid obsidian
shy hazel
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ill quit than lose any ship

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in completion

hybrid obsidian
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i missed z35

shy hazel
hybrid obsidian
shy hazel
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almost missed hatsushitmo

mental sierra
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OH

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MY FUCKING GOD

hybrid obsidian
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i dont even know if I have her

mental sierra
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FINALLY

hybrid obsidian
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oh nice

shy hazel
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make pvp kool again

mental sierra
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IT'S BEEN LIKE FIVE HUNDRED IJN BOXES WITHOUT ONE

hybrid obsidian
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did u not farm crimson echo?

shy hazel
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too many casuals been on here lately

hybrid obsidian
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lul

shy hazel
zenith tundra
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i got 1 from ce and another 3 after that from boxes lol