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I dont think she needs it when shooting into the flare
not like her 400 fp base needs a boost
the bullshit circle will be complete
not just aurora but aurora sendai fleets may just
shove everything out of the meta
except for their mirrors lol
especially before CA invasion
damn, like think about it
the effect that aurora had on meta, with 25% eva debuff
between her and jintsuus dumb torp stats boosted by eachother, flare and aurora, def fleets will probably be scarier than off fleets
she locked the meta into CL meta
now take that 25%, and make it 45%

( i hope that's how the math works out)
ya
damnnnn
W11 is gonna be a sendai race

my prediction is that a lot of people are going to start losing to defense fleets now
because they rely on 20% dmg boost too much and have shitty fleets
w11 is gonna be grinding race, dropping sendai and getting lvls105-110
that when VG loses 45% EVA no attack boost will save it 
381 with hfcr on amagi is 7 seconds the pop up appears and 8 the shot connects
She fires faster than the foxes can take off. 
she fires faster than belfast can smoke and usually just tears a hole big enough in the vg for the smoke to not matter anymore
sounds like a challenge to me
maybe I should take vacation, I work too much
good fkin idea
It slightly sucks that half of the fleet that you want for pvp is useless for grinding w11
gonna be quite an experience
the next patch is only for xp storage, not w11 yet
is jintsuu sendai aurora the new meta/
time to store exp for pvp fleet
dont know about the new meta, but it looks really dumb on paper
I don't have jintsuu kill meeeee
the buff and debuff stacking is outright disgusting
but ur also running a tofu vanguard so idk
with amagi barrage it's actually fukin disgusting
who the fuk came up with a BB statted BC with a broken ass barrage formation that can fire before 10sec and give fleetwide evasion to foxes

that's not even counting the FP/airpower debuff and fire defense
AND SHE'S IJN

i want whatever yostar developers are smoking
Why would you use Aurora over Sirius if you're running Foxes?
-20% evasion
Sirius buffs CV hit rate against all vanguard types and boosts aviation stat by 10%
sirius hit rate is only 10%
hmmm
comparing ship that makes your entire fleet better at getting rid of frontline to a ship that buffs 2 of your other ships is weird
aurora debuff is 20% and makes opening torps a lot more reliable
sirius shitty torps too
u have to keep in mind auroras debuff only works when shes alive
let's just say the hit chance without any mods is 50% then with aurora it's 70% of your damage for all your members vs CL/DD while Sirius is 60% of your damage for just your CVs
+w.e. aviation stat buff
that's ok, aurora really only needs to be alive for first airstrike
which is less than 10% damage
sirius is good cus she has stacking FP boosts but
have anyone tried a vg with sirius and aurora?
FP boosting CLs traditionally never make it into competitive PVP
main reason for me to use sirius would be because she lasts longer
or one with only sirius and aonther with only aurora
but in terms of just hitting the opp for dmg I'd rather just do aurora
I honestly hardly noticed a difference when using Aurora. Even with the debuff, enemies still evade quite easily.
you're using foxes right
yes
i know you've always been using foxes
Amagi and Foxes is what I use
you have to have noticed the dmg increase with aurora
even i notice it

just the bomb dmg at 13sec is insane
true torp meme team destroying enemy with 1st air strike
can also run both 
u can already do that with sirius tho maybe rarer owo
What I've noticed most is the torp damage with Jintsuu. Ever since I paired her with Ayanami, the torps just melt everything
yea jintsuu with rainbow dildo and rainbow quint
can do 2.3-2.5k normal torp
like 4.3.-4.5k crit torp
sometimes 5-6k
I've seen 4k+ but never 5k+ lol
Jintsuu with oxy torp is waste of a Jintsuu
hmm based on my short testing i have considered taking off oxytorp
but i seem to lose whenever i swap it with a defensive aux
i am open to someone changing my mind tho 
put on ayaya
if ur running both aya and jin then all the rainbow torps should be on aya
oxytorp on jin is pretty good as long as she isn't ur front tank
naw i use juneau jintsu aurora
so the question of sirius is
assuming u keep aurora jintsuu
is sirius a better option than
- belfast
- juneau
Between the standard 4x ehp buff in pvp and her passive, rising her HP pool is a much better force multiplier than 100 torp stat on an already pretty overstated boat. I am not saying its bad damage, I am just saying its worse than health.
she's good, but is she better
how much dmg do jintsuu (quint torp) torps do without dildo?
raising hp is important if ur running tofu vanguards
if it's like a 200-300 dmg decrease i can live with that
but if it's 400+ i'm not down

otherwise could safely swap to oxytorp for a little bit extra dmg
I use dildo only on Belfast because compared to Jintsuu, her torps really need some help. Belfast also happens to have health to sort of support it, Jintsuu is almost a fishing boat
if u slap on a toolkit
based on a quick calculation using just the torp stat since we assume everything else is constant dildo inc her torp dmg by about 20%
for lv 100 100 affection
not like I use belfast atm, ther's actually no point
I beg to differ :x
I guess if you dont like going fast and living on the edge
but just being agressive does as well as running belfast
well for one I don't have aurora so I can't really go full offense ๐ข
boilers 
kappa
i thought someone did the test that speed = / = dodging torps
lol
it only helps with BB salvos
it makes you dodge BB and plane bomb clusters
u can also eat more torps
my problem with boiler is it's just +245 hp
and since u lose out on hp by not using torp bulge / toolbox
too much speed will never be an issue for 3cl I think
that's 255 less HP than a toolkit
it's kinda a loss already

Daxam did talk about achieving "the perfect speed" here
was that only applicable to DD since they're fast already?
yeah speed is a kind of hard thing to measure
not getting hit by Amagis shells + plunging projectiles of her barrage is more health than 225
in terms of dodging
amagi shells doesn't do much dmg either way since most ppl running amakaga will be using 381
just in time to get hit by amagi barrage

i'd be like "fuk me man, why is my VG so fast"
boilers just feel more rng to me
the arrows are not the problem with amagi barrage, its actually just the 3-4 plunging projectiles that work exactly like her main gun shells
if you get hit by that you eat shit
ur relying on the ai to move ur fleet out of the way but it can also backfire and move u into torps that u wouldn't have taken otherwise
love seeing fleets eat 5 torps in a row or more cause of it
can sink enemy vg before amagis barrage lul
well for me at least opening torps are almost never an issue for frontline but I guess more people in EN run it since there isn't much else out there
y'all will understand one day. You will put Boiler and Fire Supressor on YKKZ and cry
I'll keep some general plates for when the day comes :p
usually worse case scenario for frontline for me is juneau dies to opening torps
(which you still do risk without boilers)
EN actually has no options to tank or gun so we just torp
I dont think I have seen Eldridge live long enough to use her skill even against my HMS
she ain't making past 20s
she's too slow, gets hit by actually everything
wasda with jun front and eldridge mid are the only comps that I've ever seen survive beyond 1 min mark
usually eldridge is the last one standing lul
even outliving sdakota
You did say you dont have Aurora
I have done some math on Sirius since I just maxed her and with 2 CVs behind her she has actually CA tier FP (201) while holding a DD gun at 135% efficency and a godlike barrage to boot. With her HP pool and meme AA she doesn't seem so bad until you realize no matter how good her gun is, its still pvp
her gun is pretty negliable, shes tanky however owo
belfast got higher hp owo
it's like I said from the getgo, she has a great skill, maybe not aurora level, but in return for having a slightly worse skill she actually has decent stats to carry on her own
if only her torp efficency was not trash, you can get her torp stat to "okay" between oxy, her own buff and Jintsuu
130% will just never be high enough tho
oh mb i was thinking helena
nice thing about season reset is all the weak teams i can toss duke/sirius against for free exp
huh, port kai lasts surprisingly long against wasd/a if she gets there
medium armor perks xD
i'm not sure sirius is so much worse then aurora in the greater picture tbh. i think that the aviation bonus she gives is better then a bit of extra chance of hitting vgs. u don't really win by killing vgs u win when opponent main fleet is killed. abusing ryuusei with sirius is an interesting strat imo but too bad u can't really control ryuusei burst
i wish my sirius was max level when i tried yesterday against ender fleet
what is she at for you?
98 now
nice
"you dont really win by killing vgs" wot. What fleet are you playing if its not the one that wins by dropping bombs on the face of the main fleet aftrer VG was wiped with preemptive strike?
where am I
amakaga itself is a bad defense comp where vg can make a big difference. well gonna wait forr bb meta to see better results with sirius
my vg winning against a 3 bb comp made like no difference against wasda
I fail to see how 10% aviation would turn that around
akaga won me the match every time
and i said in pair with ryuusei homing torp
my vg was just there to not have enemy vg on my foxes and for the heal
to be fair, 10% aviation does less for foxes since it stacks additive
I must be missing something because all Ryuusei does in this matchup is pump useless damage into sodak
compared to other ships
Etherstar (South Dakota, Amagi, Wasington | Belfast, Juneau, Jintsuu) 13646/13149
ZackFairX (Amagi, Akagi, Kaga | Juneau, jintsuu, Aurora) 12897/12387
game 1 - win
game 2 - lost
game 3 - win
game 4 - win
game 5 - win
game 6 - lost
game 7 - lost
game 8 - win
game 9 - win
game 10 - close win
Etherstar (South Dakota, Amagi, Wasington | Belfast, Juneau, Jintsuu) 13646/13149
ZackFairX (Amagi, Akagi, Kaga | Aurora, Ayanami, Jintsuu) 12897/13323
game 1 - close win
game 2 - win
game 3 - lost
game 4 - lost
game 5 - close win
game 6 - lost
Etherstar (South Dakota, Amagi, Wasington | Belfast, Juneau, Jintsuu) 13646/13149
ZackFairX (Akagi, Amagi (380 skc), Kaga | Juneau, jintsuu, Aurora) 12897/12387
game 1 - win
game 2 - lost
game 3 - lost
game 4 - win
game 5 - win
game 6 - close win
Etherstar (South Dakota, Amagi, Wasington | Belfast, Juneau, Jintsuu) 13646/13149
ZackFairX (Kaga(ryuusei), Amagi , Akagi | Juneau, jintsuu, Aurora) 12897/12387
game 1 - win
game 2 - win
game 3 - close win
game 4 - win
game 5 - win
game 6 - close win
game 7 - close win
game 8 - win
game 9 - lost (akagi died early and juneau after 55secs)
game 10 - close win
look at the last 10 matches with ryuusei
vs my 1st 10 tries without
ofc i also moved amagi on amagi
still the difference is pretty big
and sd dying eventually is a good thing
so you lost once instead of 3 times in a 10 game sample. I dare say that your changes probably actually made no difference considering how swingy wasd with amagi can be on rng effects
i lost to rng once vs 3 times with no chance
Other thing is that Ryuusei is actually really efficent at removing frontlines when attacking due to how close to the launch point opponents vg is, so I'd like to see noted how many times you won because your ryuusei tech wiped the vg with its torps instead of dumping damage into sodak
i'm not in the mood for arguing tbh. if u think i won 9 times instead of 7 by rng be my guess
Oh, I am not really arguing, I am just having fun. If we were arguing I'd probably ask how are those results that you got while using Aurora proving that Sirius is good, since that was what started it. Ryuusei doing good/better on offense does not surprise me
because me killing enemy vg fast did nothing for me. i never won because my vg won. i won by removing amagi from the picture and not getting imploded by bb shoots
higher aviation is higher dmg on my ryuusei torp that was the thing that helped doing that
i wanted to remove jintsuu so badly but ijn buff is too good
one more thing, are you sure repositioning your amagi was not the thing doing it?
Etherstar (South Dakota, Amagi, Wasington | Belfast, Juneau, Jintsuu) 13646/13149
ZackFairX (Akagi, Amagi (380 skc), Kaga | Juneau, jintsuu, Aurora) 12897/12387
game 1 - win
game 2 - lost
game 3 - lost
game 4 - win
game 5 - win
game 6 - close win
lost 2 out of 6 with amagi on amagi
pretty weird you're getting 50% win rate with ayaya aurora jintsuu
aya does nothing against 3 bbs. getting her in front of them and she just evaporates
aurora was front in that 50% no?
yeah swap jintsuu and aurora position
when i tried aya my goal was to use aya to kill bbs
the problem is that it just doesn't happen because amagi
there is no reason to have aurora in the middle. u don't need her past vg dead
jintsuu ayaya aurora
she is not in the middle to survive
why... jintsuu is more important the aurora
aurora is more important
auroras skill is only active when shes alive, thats why
if ur jintsuu dies torp are memes
and jintsuu is tankier
she is in the middle to tank the BB aux instead of Ayanami when you break the VG 
You run Jintsuu front because she can tank torps the best
i never lost vg and vg winning was never a sure win
and when she gets to bb insta dead because twin 127 shreds vgs
yes, and? if you use ayaya to shred bbs then would you rather she gets rekt by BBs?
I am not sure what is the logic there
the point was jintsuu tanking instead of aurora what does aya have to do with this
look having aurora survive is pointless because she's bad. jintsuu has a chance at actually dealing damage on bb compared to aurora
why lose jintsuu 1st vs losing aurora 1st
if u have time, can u at least try swapping their position ?
and do the tests again
let us know how it goes
your main damage is akaga dropping bombs on their main
i had ender in my list yesterday and won by accident so cannot try anymore
^ that's also what I've been noticing
winning vg early allows akaga to drop bombs on backline which is pretty huge
Look, I will just break it down for you. Jintsuu Aurora Ayanami. Jintsuu is the tankiest ship in this VG and tanks torps the best so she goes up front, its hard to argue that. Yes you will lose her, but she will fire the rainbow quint with her dumb high efficency and then protect your other pieces, so its fine. Aurora is mid because you absolutely cant risk losing her to RNG opening. Additionally, she will protect Ayanami from BB aux fire once you break through the VG. Aya is back because it's safer for her than front and she will live the longest vs the BB auxes there, giving you the biggest chance to torp them in the face. Jintsuu torping the BBs would be cool too, but you can't just not take damage
the damage has to go somewhere
u think u can lose either aurora or jintsuu vs belfast and jintsuu openeing torp??
no question, aurora is still way better than sirius. i still won games with sirius from my testing but aurora just makes the games more one sided
against no vg defense amakaga?
@ionic magnet did u try against same comp?
from my experience jintsuu rarely dies to opening torp even in mirror match up with stronger opening torps
when you're the attacker
for ship to die against torp either they just collide or u just collect all torp
@zenith tundra opening torp from bel & jin along with amagi barrage can definitely kill aurora
it's like 1/20 chance if not even lower
a dead aurora won't be helping ur foxes at all which is the main dmg dealer in amakaga
amagi was top no barrage on vg in wasda @split socket
yes tried against 3 comps, all amakaga just varying VGs. results are pretty consistent
i know aurora makes u kill dumb vgs fast and amakaga is weak to vgs
well that explains the 50% wr
easy win i use that all the time
don't bother
endless debate about amakaga vg ๐
too few people with maxed wasda
put that as def fleet so i can hope i can have fun with it once i get u on my list 

u know
not that i've tested against any (but u did)
i never knew they were so successful
i thought it was a meme comp
you had like a 70-80% winrate right
that's quite low
interesting
and ayaya didn't work at all
(that part i could predict but
for any other aya supporters)
what rank are u rn
without jesus heal u cannot last long enough to have a real chance
406 shoots really implodes foxes
i'm gonna try don't really care about this season
Does this look good?
406 on sd too
maybe i swap 410 for 406
for more VG dmg
ok
but 2x SG for both?
or do u wanna test with FCRs
@real notch that's my loadout atm
Except beaver on sodak
I can't lose accuracy stat on amagi
i ended up at 431... well if u want leave it there so i can try again after next reset
Just slap amagi on top
Less time she gets kekd
Washington can live on bottom slot
when should I use my refresh?. I keep getting ppl who dosnt play at all on my leftmost.
aurora front is a bad idea 
i would go for belfast because she can keep jesus alive for longer so u can have max use out of her heal
I want to try Sheffield tbh
when do u guys do ur entries on pvp? like what would u do if u dont get a enemy that does their runs.
And Sheffield skill sticks even if she sinks right
@coral wren idk i usually only use them if my list has opponents lower then me but that only happens late season. so i pretty much never use them
@coral wren if left pushes when I'm awake ofc
aurora still makes your opening torps deadly but yea id go belfast instead for defense
I waited like 2 hours for this dude to finally push up
It's a pretty long wait
should I just do my runs if the leftmost guy is not moving at all?
winning by vg is fine an all but akaga will make it impossible. u most likely loose vg before u have a chance that jintsuu aurora jesus can kill stuff with torp on defense
just wait til like 30 mins before reset
You gotta check timezones too
I mean its bad enough I ma in washington which is like suepr dead in pvp...
I am unlucky af too and gets 1-2 enemies that actually pushes per reset
and I check hourly
1-2 per reset is very normal tho
this is a 6 oathed maxed fleet
does most ppl do their runs at 30 mins left?
i have
belfast - pearl + bulge
jintsuu - dildo toolkit
juneau - toolkit bulge
i try to do them around 10-20 mins left
ok I will try that.
so i don't get last min sandbaggers in my list
ppl plz test against me if you see me 
I live in UTC +1... so rip next reset is at 3am for me.
ever since I started playing this game. I basicly sleep after 5am when long night comms comes
gonna try the hell out of that comp since i have new ideas and ships (sirius)
now i just have to pray i end up same score as u
i love sirius but she just cant replace aurora
i am at 440 points
im at 431 but no refreshes
mine? it's Tanamichi

yes
together we shall end this wasda debate

since u did amakaga offense i'll find a wasda offense vs amakaga
and see how it fares
i think sirius is a better ship then aurora in the case u don't really care about winning by vg and just want to deal as much dmg as possible to enemy mainfleet
if there is higher winrate with wasda at least we can conclude wasda is more consistent on offense
i would set it if i had oaths on washy and sd
i am old man player from FW so naturally i oathed my american babies
but with 110 inc even trying to get max oath rn would be useless because it's gonna take a while before i can awaken them to 110
i only found u once and was rushing so rip me
sumire uesaka?
Yep
how to wasd with no wash 
owo
y'all are in for a pile of dissapointment
Wash resident here, I just spend all charges at the start of the season for 2-3 days so that I could be among PvP-ers
if I don't do so, I'll get "dead" opponents and have to progress with no bonus
looks worse then sandy lol
alot worse. litterally dead server
Tbf wasda still needs those white shells
So I'm not buying anything till shells arrive

whats nanoda btw
:ykkz:
ooo

wasd a does not outperform wasd e, from my rahter extensive tests when Amagi was first a thing. 3BBs are mostly gambling and the most effective way to run wasd a I found is to just play with meme suicide IJN frontline because then you see the result of your gambling faster
wasd e never been a problem as def fleet
therfore wasd amagi also shouldnt be
enty is trash for defense and she really just stalls for as long as her cloak last
Wasd E dies in less than 30s

WasdA doesn't
That's why people stopped using wasd too
amagi debuffs and extra evasion are what makes that wasd so strong also the ability to fast delete a fox 2nd only to hood for now
Feels like even in offense, they're having trouble with foxes
So the population of Washington fleet died off
Became fox defense
For a server that had Washington infestestation for like 2 months
i would love to try wasda mirrors lol
oh yeah its u
gurenn
your team was annoying ytd

i had to replace aya with bel
else wouldve lost


the thing is that Enterprise has way higher AA than Amagi and dodge doesnt really affect plane suicide damage, so I do not see how wasd amagi would live so much longer than wasd e for it to be significant. Either way, I found them performing the same on offense 80% winrates against everything, nothing matters 
u use amagi top so she doesn't get demolished by torp bombers
wait
thats the time you bring out your own jesus 
amagi top does not die easily to akaga
same with enty tho
i have a feeling
you put her top and alls well
i thought u had same comp as me 
enty cannot kill a fox compared to amagi that puts a high amount of pressure on backlines with her barrage
Wait let me check
it's even worse when a backline eats all amagi barrage instead of it hitting vg
well enty wins you games as long as she can fire a 2nd airstrike
Enty puts high amount of pressure on backlines with her planes. If Amagi can kill a backliner with 70% proc, so can Enterprise, except its Wash proc not hers
nani 
enty touchdown dmg is very low compared to akaga
Ye when i do d3 i slap Beaver in and since i have 5 +10 sg, i just put sg on sodak for replacement
and her load gets eaten by vgs

ohhhh
its touchdown +cuda torps vs target that ate wash barrage

reminder that normal shells of wash barrage reck medium armour
i just used like 300 purple plates to set up my wasda
its unfair to compare enty to 2 ships, we compare whole fleet instead
u still cannot put on same plane a x2 dmg that does little to nothing on enemy backlines vs 9% reduced offensives stats and 10% evasion and fire dmg reduction
what's your offense fleet
alot better than wasde
can i see it
meta foxes lol
finding maxed wasd fleets is just as annoying cos theyre so rare nowadays
aurora jint belfast
@shy hazel wait, can I know if sodak shoots 2 or 3 shells
all oathed
Keep switching maingun
13k both
sodak shoots 3becausr she survives
so not maxed
for a long time
Oh 3 thanks
if u compare enty dmg to amagi dmg then yes enty would be better but overall amagi still way better
well, standard BiS amakaga should not be over 12900
why are people moving in my list when i'm at 7/10... wtf
it should be like 12888 or 12905
12897
ya whatever it is, depends on whether u use badge on amagi or SG
and double elevators
unless if you have 2x reppuu
if u want to bait reppu u use reppu-gold cuda and vf-17-ryuusei? or just use junkers?
no, reppuu baiting is just running a 60 speed fighter and a 50 speed fighter
if you de-sync your launchtimes for twinfox you risk spacing out your clump too much
yes but as i use vf-gold cuda and reppu-ryusei i don't think it works because of launch speed
i don't have a 2nd gold cuda
once you have hiryuu
u can slap ryuusei on her
and watch her 6x torp 1 backline ship
still kaga dmg with torp bombers is pretty good
still got lots of days before next event
well
they putting w11 first
so maybe
no event for a month

u can bait reppu if u use dual gold cuda impossible with 2 different torp unless u use reppu on the faster torp
next event should be right at the end of the month
i want nanoda rush
you mean nanoda cuck

"Visitors Dyed in Red" Event
JP Server: March 27th - April 10th 2018
CN Server: March 29th - April 12th 2018
For information on the initial run of the event, visit this page.
theyre taking their time so i think
after w11
is suba
then event
although subs are meh
how is it far away when both cn and jp got it this month 1 year ago
they wrote a letter saying "no reruns this year" basically
they wrote a letter that said rerun content will be omitted in upcoming events for a while

1st vdir is not a new event
ykkz is rerun content
but vdir is not new content
it's ok, imagine rolling for nanoda 150 times and not getting her
you are saving yourself from the pain

2nd i could totally see vdir rerun so people can have ships that were available before they started playing or like in washy case before the server had access to them
"Visitors Dyed in Red" Event
JP Server: October 27th - November 9th 2017
CN Server: September 28th - October 12th 2017
EN Server: September 30th - October 19th 2018
For information on the rerun of the event, visit this page.
does this ring a bell too?
same time 1 year earlier
i see no reason why it wouldn't be the same for rerun too
considering announcements these day we'll see maybe by 20th so like 2 weeks
it would be a 2 weeks break in between events and with next event just 2 more new ships for most people
nagato event will be in may like jp/cn i see no reason why we would get it sooner then them
i just want any event at this point
say that to people that can't keep up
also 2 weeks break for new level cap and w11
i'm back at farming for maya already
you realize jp and cn also getting delayed
i prefer 3 weeks with shorter breaks than 2 weeks with longer breaks
jp/cn players mush hate en
i mean
p much 1 event per month
i mean
i thought about that a lot @shy hazel
you can easily finish the farming
but the building
can easily take the whole event

why isn't jp/cn getting new stuff outside of events and the answer is en servers
lol
u waste them on research unless u have all the pr already
still might use them for equip tho
sr rate to 15% instead of 7% then
ill have about 400 cubes next event at this rate
so slow
from 0

if vdir rerun comes

i want vdir for 2nd ryuusei too
i would still run vf-17 over a 2nd reppu tbh
hsfcr?
ye
i want 3 of them for a full bb comp lol
it's broken for pvp mostly for pve it just changes a bit the timing
i wont care about pve after i get all story ships
i dont think w11 will take much
no ssr there anyways
the next hard thing to 100%
is probably subs
wonder if we will have rate up for,subs
when its here
Oh hey, a club! Belfast/Aurora build please? 
i don't really want subs that badly outside for the nice looking pictures they have 
apparently someone bump into my fleet in the #avrora-general and was having hard time with it... 
yeah
someone give that person aurora belfat build
it's a nice comp compared to trash amakagas these days
like loadout?
probably gears
Sure, a load out sounds lovely.
er generally you put belgun, quad mag torps, bofors, torp bulge, toolkit

i only have 1 bofor 
the obly two ships where i use belgun
sad potato la
i use belgun on jintsuu too

i prefer tabasco anytime
or if you have no spare twin 127s for jesus

UFO is much better
UFO is for backline tho
i use bofors for 2nd aa hit against akaga
No u use that on vanguard cause I am thot
X__x
ufo is good too idrc about min maxing AA cos its not really noticeable
should be fine as long as its a gold aa gun 
tho from what i read before, its not that good to stack too much bofors
i just want the 2nd aa hit against akaga
when optimising something, its usually somewhere in the middle so maybe throw 1 or 2 ufos there
but then again how can we even test that

afaik "optimal" is 1 ufo 3 bofors for the fox fleet, but just having the gold stats is probably about as good as having optimised aa
i can use that. who would be better as ufo user?
you use juneau, right? its her
ok
160% efficency with AA mode 
juneau users 
im here
yea consistency is most important
Okay, so I donโt have a second gold belgun. What would be second best? 
well if no belgun
Okie dokie.
i'm curious when the coming soon(tm) meme will end in announcements and we get some dates
27k gold later, all done. Sweet, thanks guys.
pvp is very costly and not really worth the investment if u don't like it
pvp = makes me want to min-max everything = all content ez breezy
not like dumping money on tbtsk is gonna bite him in the ass
unless u like to switch equip every 10mins
belgun +10 is not even that good as bb secondary
i want people to play pvp i just don't want them to put meme fleets on defense
The only part I want players do is probably the essex event in the future
i'm gonna sell my al account if we get trash essex class event next instead of vdir rerun
reruns are the last thing you should expect next event tho
after all that mess with sirius
i just don't want more trash cv in my dock
the only cv i want is centaur. outside of her all of them can be removed from al

also the 2 reasons why i can totally see vdir next event are
1st make perfect sense considering jp/cn calendar
2nd it wouldn't a totally new event so people could get ships that were available before they started playing or like in washy case before the server had access to them while still overall most people would only need 2 new ships
Any of you have a maxed Sirius up and running yet? Mine's close. I'm gonna be using her instead of Belfast if I run into fleets that aren't running foxes
I'm running Amakaga and I feel like a maxed Sirius would make them kill even faster if I don't need smoke
sirius is not better then aurora(most people opinion on her)
I'm also using Aurora
my current vanguard is Belfast, AyaKai, Aurora
so against non-fox opponents it'd be Sirius, AyaKai, Aurora
accuracy overload
plus more aviation
i had the worst results with aurora+sirius
aurora alone is already good enough from what i tested
I agree she's good enough alone
I'm going for the overkill against people not using foxes though
Belfast does nothing if there aren't foxes
sirius torps is just horrible that she doesnt add anything significant with aurora already there
and I don't have Jintsuu
my argument is she'd add more than Belfast if there aren't foxes
I agree Sirius would be terrible against foxes
no jintsuu no torp to care for... maybe i should retire my jintsuu
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Do you guys have an alternate suggestion? I guess I could just use Juneau and be immortal
I'm waiting for sendai and just do overkill vanguard
again, only referring to against non-fox fleets
prolly fine then if you have no jintsuu
Definitely not against mirror
collusion jk
oof
I've gotten AotN having missed 10 matches before so I'm not too worried about missing 3 just yet
still annoying though
I like being at a multiple of 5 or 10 on my total exercises
which means at the end of the season I'm gonna have to purposely skip 2
Yeah I'm also alternating 2s and 7s
ive been sneaking them in since there's plenty of poor gear or weak comps
but i havent been looking at damage charts
so dunno
duke multiple times with hms still waiting for max oath and skills
My Duke and Sirius aren't 100 yet. Getting close. They're both 95 with all skills maxed
dmg chart 
lul, well, i havent checked up on anything, but so far I can say I enjoy the 2 shipgirls
make my cranes stronk 
xD
but then again, havent seen 13k teams since new reset so cant tell much
i think sirius just makes my hiryuu mvp's even more damaging
and unlike aurora she wont die as fast xD
but u wan aurora dead so she can use tear
i need aurora alive
because i dont have foxes
if she dies before 20, she might as well not exist
xD
then just remove her
no, her debuff is only while alive
You're right
at least according to wiki wording
I couldn't remember if the text said "While alive"
yea you dont use aurora if its not with amakaga
since shit like QE's buff is broken and doesn't care if QE gets murdered
i used aurora back during wasd/e
because i was using Minne
20 seconds of gunnery time
is plenty
Dawn While alive in fleet, decreases the evasion rate of all enemy destroyers and light cruisers by 10% (20%).
or eldridge
Yeah, I checked it 
she dies first cos shes squish, even if put in middle VG

she has the hp of jintsuu with no retro boost for 20% damage reduction
she dies first basically always
xD
jesus can manage faster tho
Alright fuck it, I'mma go down to 5/10 already. tired of waiting
5/10 and rank 59 in my list... what did i do to deserve it?

how many points do you have lol
448 now
oh wow, im at 388 with 5/10 xD
nope
i'm at 439 an 5/10

owo
i don't even care about this season just playing for aotn for the extra merit
it was probably taking a 32, a 26, then multiple 20s and a 17 xD
yeah lol
though, for 2 seasons in a row I've completely said fuck it in the first few days so I could never get past Colonel
last season went for top 10 end season but slept on 3 attempts at the last season reset
Why are you BUYING the purins before you need them?
I couldn't do that to my dock
I just save the currency
nani
i only have 300 and barely have 8 purins
if you're a pleb, I'm literally not even a person
270 space, 95.1% collection, 2 purins
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Mmmm, Person only missing the monthly
i dont grind for ship girls unless the ones i want
fuckin' lucklet
ye, i got bored of azur
89.4% for me missing a lot of retros still
I grind random girls because nothing else to do but don't ever get them

Any way, in this game I care more about my collection % than literally anything else, so that's my priority

If I ever miss an event exclusive girl and it's already the rerun so there probably won't be another one, I'll probably just quit the game

that's because the game is actually fair xD
||i'm at 99.2||
yeah buddy
I almost missed Z46. I was on the verge of quitting, but there would've still been a KMS event rerun
I was just salty and annoyed
finally got her in the last 4 days of the event
went down to 70 cubes
all my salt and anger
hey


wasda jint
I needed 1 reset to beat Tatsuya. Your Juneau lived too long on the first attempt, so it ended up negating all my first launch damage
i just put whatever i have geared when farming
oh, wasd w 
or was it not
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I don't remember your backline
I just remember you had Juneau
ye
wasdama juneau jintsu aurora
my most recent change was cranes + amagi

or i thiblnk
until ytd
it was ayanami
it was indeed 

i mean it was sandy, pretty surr
and yeah

i missed z35


almost missed hatsushitmo
i dont even know if I have her
oh nice
make pvp kool again
IT'S BEEN LIKE FIVE HUNDRED IJN BOXES WITHOUT ONE
did u not farm crimson echo?
too many casuals been on here lately
lul

i got 1 from ce and another 3 after that from boxes lol












