pvp

[dull hollow]

why? simply because I launch faster

[zenith tundra]

lol

[dull hollow]

so I win by timing

if you're not facing back vs back the vast majority of the time the stuka doesnt need to be fielded

[zenith tundra]

sounds unfun as fuck

[dull hollow]

dont worry about it

EN wont have to play Nakaga racing

you guys got amagi and FW

so unless Nakaga is ur waifu meta u dont have to play that mirror

[zenith tundra]

i'm gonna set nakaga def even if i don't use it for offense

[dull hollow]

Nagaka def stopped being a problem with FW and was basically obsolete with Namagi

ive had many battles where I lose Juneau to opening torp strike

and I still handily defeat nakaga

if you want to piss people off set a Namagi comp

EN already has so many tools to deal with Nakaga that I wouldnt waste time on it

[zenith tundra]

but what 3rd on namagi comp in en without hiryuu kai or taihou

[dull hollow]

Hiryuu Non kai will still be okay in that slot

Hyuuga is extremely funny in that slot

BB Kaga also does ok

[zenith tundra]

i mean my foxes are already max out and nagato will be for namagi so it's not like i spend anything on it

hyuuga kai or hk?

[dull hollow]

hyuuga non kai will probably work but I would imagine you already get her kai by then

[outer stump]

Finally lol

[zenith tundra]

gratz

[vague token]

[outer stump]

[mental sierra]

mmmmm baby, supernatural into demon dance just crit someone's backline for 3.6k x I didn't see how many hits

[charred sable]

Finally managed to not miss a single attack this season

[zenith tundra]

too many people stacked up in top 100 can't even try to get to a refresh +1 with decent chance

[elder crane]

With a "stars-align" set of rng, Aya torp can kill SoDak without Wash's immunity skill proccing, or so I've heard
Have not had it happen personally, but the math checks out.
Wash doesn't proc til SoDak is <20% HP, and full Boost Aya torps can do more than 20% per

[vague token]

oof

[ionic magnet]

but who uses aya on offense

[leaden sequoia]

me

[odd schooner]

Rush Sendai mines again

[finite valve]

use ayaya in pvp

filthy pleb

[elder crane]

Time for more foxes!

Build that all-fox fleet

[finite valve]

not going to rush sendai atm

[odd schooner]

So it's going to be Sendai Aurora and Sirius

[finite valve]

since it is overkill

going to go for agano or columbia first

aurora alone already kill VG at 1 strike

[elder crane]

I'd say both -eva ships is probably overkill, given the competition for slots

[finite valve]

more debuff ain't going to change much

[zenith tundra]

sendai jintsuu aurora i think might be better for defense

[elder crane]

Aurora for more AA and perma active, Sendai for more torps

[finite valve]

you need more dps

[odd schooner]

Ye double fox would do more dmg

[finite valve]

not more debuff

reason why def failed is just that there is not enough dps to kill off VG

[elder crane]

Plus -eva has diminishing returns

[odd schooner]

Isn't sirius a fixed 10% hit stat

[finite valve]

yeh

+10% acc

[elder crane]

Yep, hit stat though isn't super useful

[zenith tundra]

it's not acc it's hit rating

[finite valve]

+10% acc when the enemies boat are all at around 20 eva

yeh that sure going to matter a fucking lot

[zenith tundra]

acc would go trough hit formula while hit rating is flat

[vague token]

+10 hit is different from hit rating

xD

[finite valve]

still doesn't change that hit / acc matter when you have aurora here already debuffting those eva to high hell

more debuff is just overkill

you need dps not more debuff

[vague token]

well

[zenith tundra]

it would kill all belfast users tbh

[vague token]

sendai+ aurora negates smoke entirely

[elder crane]

Sendai is pretty good on damage herself though

[vague token]

i think belfast is 35?

[finite valve]

need to test those out tbh

[elder crane]

Yep, bel is 35%

[modern tree]

if I had acess to Sendai I'd play Sendai Aurora Juneau because it fulfils the 4IJN quota and lets me heal

[finite valve]

since she still got -35% damage reduction right?

or was it 25?

[elder crane]

Yep, 35% both

[finite valve]

well not like it going to change meta much

[elder crane]

Nah, options for fox fleet are already super crowded

And Sendai isn't a power jump

[finite valve]

never said she was

she was in JP due to YKK

[elder crane]

Yeah, I'm agreeing with you

[odd schooner]

Sendai jintsuu torp skill stacks?

[finite valve]

w/o her in EN it matter little

[elder crane]

Yep, boost adds

[zenith tundra]

aya is just random torp that really doesn't do much even if people think she's broken since she dies before 2nd wave of torp that might get supernatural bonus

[finite valve]

ayaya is too overhype for what she is worth for

[elder crane]

She's there for high RNG

[finite valve]

yeh she got insane damage

[zenith tundra]

tanikaze is straight forward better

[finite valve]

but how many times will you see it?

like 2 in 10 times?

nah

not going to bother

[zenith tundra]

so rng vs a consistent debuff?

[elder crane]

On def it's arguably good, since def usually doesn't win anyways so the bullshit RNG cases become more important

Offense, you want consistency

[finite valve]

i was talking about ayaya

not tanikaze lel

[zenith tundra]

i haven't lose once, not even close to from when i use jesus so any aya users should just reconsider what use she actually has

[finite valve]

even then meta are too crowed atm

now with ppl trying sirius out

sendai got no place in meta

[zenith tundra]

sendai instead of jintsuu

sirius torp are trash

[finite valve]

hey if you like night battle

[elder crane]

Or Sendai instead of aurora

[finite valve]

i see no reason why not

[zenith tundra]

aurora pretty bad at torp too

[finite valve]

ppl use sirius for her buff tho

not her stat

still trash compare to nagato

[zenith tundra]

and i'm saying jintsuu cannot buff 0 dmg she's not god

[odd schooner]

Pretty sure eva down vanguard is just there to kill off enemy vg on airstrike

[elder crane]

Aurora torps aren't that bad, lol

[odd schooner]

[finite valve]

aurora is there for her debuff

not her stat

what are you talking about?

[ivory vine]

her stats arent bad tho

[finite valve]

is like saying i use jesus cus she is good

[ivory vine]

sirius' stats are bad

so are juneau's

[finite valve]

you use a certain ship in comp due to her skill

[ionic magnet]

its a simple choice for me
if you want someone who doesnt die in 1st airstrike, go with sirius
if you want to bet everything in 1st airstrike then go aurora

[elder crane]

With the competition for slots right now, just Aurora's skill alone would not warrant use
Her AA and decent off stats add to her usefulness

Like if she had Avrora stats no one would use her

[ivory vine]

cough mikasa

[finite valve]

use mikasa in pvp

[zenith tundra]

i don't see why i would bother with jintsuu without sendai only because people think some might get screwed by horrible torp rng doesn't mean is a good strat

[finite valve]

free win?

[ivory vine]

mikasa has stats that prob make avrora look decent

[elder crane]

Almost as bad as monitors

[zenith tundra]

mikasa hp is as bad as it can be

[ivory vine]

all her stats are about as bad as they can be

[zenith tundra]

plus terrible aa

[finite valve]

who need stat when you are a fucking MILF lel

[elder crane]

Well, monitors is worse, but then those are monitors

[finite valve]

how many boat in this game can rival her as a milf?

[ivory vine]

tbf mikasa doesnt have that shit of stats for her class

all bc that arent amagi have pretty shit stats

mikasa loses out on hp a pretty good bit tho

[zenith tundra]

she a battleship

[ivory vine]

and hood hp is insane

[zenith tundra]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Mikasa

[ivory vine]

o rip

so she has stats worse than bc

as a bb

even worse

[zenith tundra]

also her proc is not even a barrage just a buff idk...

[finite valve]

yeh she don't have a barrage

just a buff

[ivory vine]

20% damage dealt is good tho

on top of her 20% fp/reload buff already

it's just her stats are so fuckin bad

[zenith tundra]

for who tho?

[ivory vine]

and nagato exists with a good buff

and not garbage stats

and she buffs foxes

[zenith tundra]

i mean amagi fires at weird times

[ivory vine]

you could easily buff amagi's 2nd barrage

[zenith tundra]

amagi fires twice and mikasa once really good strat

[finite valve]

incoming yamato with another flag ship force skill

[ionic magnet]

mm mikasa does buff herself tho right?

[finite valve]

lel

yeh she does

[ionic magnet]

so its just your average bc stats except for terrible hp

[ivory vine]

on a bb tho

[vague token]

i mean, mikasa is an older BB compared to the updated ship that nagato is xD

[ivory vine]

so weaker to torps/planes

[zenith tundra]

mikasa won't be in en unless devs decide to put her event in before when her rerun should be in september

also mikasa event should bring shells too in core data

[ionic magnet]

if her 2nd skill triggers she probably deals a little more main gun dmg than most BBs

60% tho

and no barrage

[zenith tundra]

296fp... my amagi has 400fp

[ivory vine]

amagi has bb stats as a bc

[ionic magnet]

her 1st skill makes her fp go up to 355 already

[finite valve]

matter little in pvp when you are basically behind by almost 2 salvo worth of damage from barrage and strike

[ivory vine]

except armor type ofc

[ionic magnet]

then add 20% damage

not to mention 170+ reload

[zenith tundra]

if u look at amagi trying to tank akaga dmg u would see mikasa getting oneshooted most likely

[ionic magnet]

ofc

[ivory vine]

i never said use mikasa tho

[ionic magnet]

thats her 1 and only problem

[ivory vine]

i said she would be usable if they didnt give her absolutely garbage stats

[zenith tundra]

she's an old ship

[ivory vine]

when does that matter in anything else tho?

like hood was outdated too

[zenith tundra]

hood was around for ww2

[ivory vine]

has more hp than almost any other bb/bc

sunk in 1 hit from bisko

how does that lead to more hp

[ionic magnet]

if only she has like 1k more hp id prolly use her over nagato cos fk lolis

[zenith tundra]

mikasa In commission: 1902–1923

hood In service: 1920–1941

u can't even compare them

[leaden sequoia]

if Hood had low HP, she'd disintegrate, not get split in half

[vague token]

oof

[zenith tundra]

eat 2+9 but rushed aotn in the end

still 5/10 rn

[shy hazel]

mmmm

perhaps i should get aotn rn

gonna be 4/10 though

might as well

[coral wren]

hood coin toss is actually unfun. Freaking big e of bbs

[odd schooner]

Has anyone tried sheff

They fix description on wiki

Plus her skill works not in percentage hp but the amount of hp a ship has

[vague token]

they havent fixed it in client yet reee

but i think someone was talking about trying her

in the end it's only about 15% damage reduction

on average

although it's kinda sad how it's basically a blatantly superior version of focused defense

with a minor requirement

[modern tree]

In the end focused defense is about 4% reduction at best. Good skill. I am working on Sheffield atm. It would be slightly easier if her offensive stats were not about as bad as Aurora

I don't really have high hopes tho. At least on offense, HMS does not really have that much of a problem keeping their vg alive and this tiny change does not really help 3bb deal damage in more efficient way than ROLL THE DICE 3 TIMES PER SHOT, did you hit anything good? Splendid, my chap

[vague token]

xD

[supple stratus]

I wonder where that pinned image of Pvp meta is right now

[vague token]

almost level 10 mark of sirius

when i wake up it'll be done =D

[shy hazel]

took u long enuf

kiro kun

[vague token]

pfft, i swapped around a bit since i didnt get her first day xD

ive got like fiji's at level 5

dork barrage at 8

[hollow flame]

whats the meta build rn?

[shy hazel]

normal meta is amakagi jintsu aurora + ayanami OR Belfast OR Juneau

for untested waters u can replace bel or aya with sirius

[ionic magnet]

[hollow flame]

Thanks

Is amagi duke of york and hood any good?

[shy hazel]

thats for hms shenanigans

if u wanna ask that better ask this one pro who still uses hms

i think it was @modern tree

but just to be honest

IJN is pvp meta

lol

[modern tree]

[shy hazel]

[modern tree]

I am not sure how subbing Amagi for QE works out. It would be great against multiple battleships, that you rarely see because anything fox is what people prefer atm

[hot creek]

get people to put up wasdA defenses and foxes won't be all that meta anymore

[modern tree]

And Duke would have hard time applying her debuff to benefit anyone with all the barrage boats that just want to shoot fast

[hollow flame]

Am i using amakagi wrongly or something

They die super quickly

[shy hazel]

k lets make this simple

[hollow flame]

All skills maxed

[shy hazel]

show us your pvp fleet

and gears

[hollow flame]

im using a super outdated meta build now though :/

[charred sable]

Duke is for when we get Warspite retrofit later, unless we get better options

[shy hazel]

then its the gears

[hollow flame]

lul

[shy hazel]

wasde

yup

it is old

but still works

[charred sable]

Which we probably will. So Duke is pretty much just for PvE I'd say

[shy hazel]

but better replace e with amagi

and remove electric loli

[hollow flame]

hold on

i will make the new meta build now

[charred sable]

Here's your standard current IJN meta

Ayanami is your wildcard

[frail ruin]

Nearly 500 pulls no Aurora

[shy hazel]

if no aurora just use

sirius as alternative

[charred sable]

Belfast, Juneau, Sirius

Take your pick

[frail ruin]

I thought Belfast was the best alternative to negate the Akaga airstrike

[hollow flame]

im guessing i should use the pinned message for weapon building?

[modern tree]

It should still be accurate. I will look through it today, and make neat meta infographic I guess

[charred sable]

Attacker has a huge advantage, hence Ayanami. And I can't be bother to have her swapped with Belfast on defence as that would require allocating good gear for Belfast. And I don't grind enough to have an excess of +10 good gear

PvP team gets best gear, then the constantly rotating PvE/being lvled teams gets whatever gear is left over

@modern tree don't forget to add the new gold gun since we can start exchanging for it now

[modern tree]

Yeah, thats the first thing I thought of

[hot creek]

ayanami is better on defense than offense, change my mind.

[charred sable]

Oh, and can't wait to test out double rainbow dildo with Ayanami

But that might have to wait til I get a second gold gun in prep for Nagato

[modern tree]

I will just abuse the fact that I have 2 messages pinned to put up some pictures of meta stuff as well because I am an asshole, maybe

[charred sable]

I don't think you can edit old posts to include new pictures. You can add a link to the pictures though

[ionic magnet]

0/10 charges

cant test anything

feelsbadman

[zenith tundra]

i'm not testing anything till after season ends. don't want to eat +9 for no reason

[ionic magnet]

i would too if i didnt miss 3 charges in the first place

so funny when doy barrage hits a fire ship

moves so slow lol

[zenith tundra]

how is that even alive after the barrage

?

why can't u see own planes hp....

[coral wren]

I still hesitate on what vang should be used with hms

With belfast being your core

[hybrid tendon]

depends on your backline

[ionic magnet]

my doy is still lv 70ish

[hybrid tendon]

leander?

[ionic magnet]

doing lv 70 comms

[coral wren]

I mean, rn it’s standart hms backline, hood qe ws

[hybrid tendon]

belfast is the t1 frontliner

right now

amazing stats amazing skills

[coral wren]

Belfast is needed to vape all over you

[subtle whale]

what agano from

[zenith tundra]

why did i read that as kms... the lack of sleep

w11

[hybrid tendon]

and god damn

serious has super low stats

like

SUPER DUPER LOW

[coral wren]

About leander, wel, she is ok vs torp meme

[hybrid tendon]

to compensate for her 1st

too OP

[coral wren]

But other than that, not much

[hybrid tendon]

frontline HMS is a bit lacking atm

[zenith tundra]

leander belfast jesus should be standard hms frontline for now

[coral wren]

Y, i just don’t know, but i have to put in jesus every tim i face one against me

[zenith tundra]

u can run aurora instead of leander tho

[coral wren]

Otherwise enemy just outstales me

[subtle whale]

i stilk havebt gotten sirius

she the last one

[hybrid tendon]

what are the backline HMS right now?

[subtle whale]

got everyone but her

[ionic magnet]

sirius has terrible torps aurora has terrible hp

pick your poison

[hybrid tendon]

dork hood?

[coral wren]

Qe

[hybrid tendon]

dork hood QE

[subtle whale]

qe dork hood

[hybrid tendon]

dork is really reliable

much more than warspite

[coral wren]

U still have one asshat more to rely on as well

[zenith tundra]

doy dmg on 1st slavo does as much as hood barrage on a fox

[coral wren]

With 70% proc

Well,she might not proc at all and then rip

[hybrid tendon]

but still amakaga 6s barrage memes

is better for a gensui rush

[modern tree]

HMS frontlines are like Juneau/Jintsuu, Aurora/Leander/Sheff, Belfast

Fortune is neat but she eats one bad torp and you lose

[hybrid tendon]

hmm sheff

her first skill is pretty good

[coral wren]

I guess i’k have to stick with june, jin performance is just not good at all for me on offense

Unless she crits and deletes 1 ship

[hybrid tendon]

30% chance to reduce damage taken by 50%

[coral wren]

But that”s even more of a dice roll

[hybrid tendon]

I've been trying sirius

on amakaga

atm

the synergy man

[modern tree]

HMS backline is just rng meme tho, I really hate how it turned from most consistent fleet to least consistent one because torps and other garbage. You can literally run any 3 HMS backliners and the results will be the same, you either win really hard or lose really hard and there is nothing inbetween

unless you count loses because 4 volleys went to the dead backliner "close game"

[coral wren]

Ppl who hated slutty e with her rng should really have tried playing hms

[modern tree]

Seriously, I ran Ark Doy Hood with whatever frontline and the result was the same

[coral wren]

Would widen their horizons on what rng really is

[modern tree]

I won super hard when I did, or just got smashed and there was no pattern to it

its just all MGM shots from BBs

hitting or not

my favourite is when I run Ark so Dork can hit the frontline with her meaty first shot and then she shoots Kaga 3 times and sinks her and I am like "alright"

#HMS

Gonna wait for white shell and 110 to try again, I am tired of gambling

[zenith tundra]

white shells are a bit far tho imo. if we get them with mikasa rerun and it's like jp we have to wait for september

[modern tree]

in other news, Junkers on Akaga feels super legit

[hybrid tendon]

junkers

[modern tree]

Stuka

Ju-87C

JUNKERS

[hybrid tendon]

I know

they are crap even on graf

[modern tree]

Junkers is a cute name

and they are better than BTD, change my mind

I am also smashing the mirror super hard with it

[zenith tundra]

does attacker bonus affects aa dmg?

i want to try with dual cata but can really see own planes health so i wanted to use opponent planes for testing and wondering if i do more aa dmg then def fleet

[modern tree]

pretty sure attacker bonus is just shifts in how much damage protection opponents ship classes have, instead of a flat damage boost, so it should not affect AA in any way

[zenith tundra]

as soon as i find a maxed out amakaga with tank i'll give some tries. gonna look enemy planes hp and if i lose any with or without tank

[modern tree]

Also just for the record, "Ju-87c are crap even on graf" is completely wrong, they are almost capable to give Helldiver run for its money in terms of raw damage. Yeah 100lb bombs are tiny so they might prove unreliable, but main fleet doesnt move and Junkers launches faster than Helldivers. In mirrors where both fronts are dead you win. Against other fleets you win faster. It would make problems if you NEEDED this extra damage from Helldiver, but I have yet to encounter a situation in which I did. No, Belfast doesn't stop the wipe.

Raw damage of Junkers VS Helldiver on frontline (light armour) is 875.2 vs 895.2 for the record

[odd schooner]

Currently using firefly

[zenith tundra]

i wouldn't run junkers over helldivers tbh because i don't have problems in mirror but i can see it as an interesting defense meme

[modern tree]

I am running Ju-87c on defense with gear skins so people can't tell why the hell they are launching slower

[ionic magnet]

i'll stick with helldivers cos i'll launch slower anyway

< missed event planes

[modern tree]

I imagine it's a pointless tech if you don't have Reppu/Pirate and maxed oaths since the difference in speeds is not gonna be mind blowing

[zenith tundra]

the difference is from 23.05 to 22.81 on kaga with reppu and from 22.87 to 22.63 on akagi with vf-17 in between helldivers and junkers at max oath

[hybrid tendon]

I never have problem with mirrors

like ever

[zenith tundra]

i don't have problems with mirror and i use the event torp bomber

[hybrid tendon]

fielding Atago solved the torp squad problem

[zenith tundra]

which is so slow compared to cuda

[hybrid tendon]

also i'm thinking about trying the event planes

for the burst AA

on mirror match

👏

both those planes have excellent guns

and one of them is a fast plane so it evens out for the slower torp plane

[shy hazel]

im running one s2bc and one btd

why not

[hybrid tendon]

btd has higher aviation

that some other carriers with lower aviation could use

For example a ranger

With 260 aviation, about 60% of an SR carrier

Double btd would be great

[hollow flame]

Seems low 😫

[zenith tundra]

any oaths

?

[hollow flame]

nope

[zenith tundra]

with all max oaths but unoath juneau

[modern tree]

going over 13k is a meme on EN

because you are either using bad gear or all 3BBs

[zenith tundra]

dual cata might be viable still need some testing if u lose planes in mirror tho

[hollow flame]

Is battleship kaga better

Or do i use aircraft

[zenith tundra]

cv>>bb

[modern tree]

Baga is acceptable, but a lot less consistent. Use her if you like her

but planes are better atm

[zenith tundra]

consistency is the main reason to run akaga so i would never pick kaga bb over cv

[hollow flame]

okay

I guess i will show my equips

spam incoming

[ionic magnet]

what gun is that on amagi 👀

[hollow flame]

Basically i just slap the good stuff i can find on them

Lol

[zenith tundra]

change 380 to 410 or 381 from core data on amagi

us gold sg instead of toolbox as aux on her

change btd destroyers on akaga to helldivers

switch 1 gold cata +10 on kaga and use use oild tank on both cvs

change tbtsk to belgun on both aurora and jintsuu

[gilded atlas]

did someone say 13k?

[zenith tundra]

as aux i would use
jintsuu beaver bulge
aurora pearl bulge
jesus boiler bulge

@hollow flame

[hollow flame]

thanks!

[zenith tundra]

13k is not hard to reach just unoptimal equip needed

[shy hazel]

im still using double cata

on both foxes

[gilded atlas]

double cata but can't tell actual difference in performance if used oil tank

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

i will try that when i see a 12897 foxes comp

double cata vs oil tank

[shy hazel]

i dont really have extra plates rn to +10 oil tanks

[shy hazel]

catas the shit in pve too

[hollow flame]

i dont have a single gold 😢

[shy hazel]

gold belgun where

[gilded atlas]

[zenith tundra]

keep tbtsk then

[hollow flame]

alright

[zenith tundra]

u can farm belguns

6-2, 8-3, T4/T5 Sakura Tech Box

[hollow flame]

thank you~

how do these madmen even reach 13k

[zenith tundra]

200 oath and almost full gold equip

[hollow flame]

damm..

[ionic magnet]

difference between non oathed and maxed oathed ship is around ~120 rating

so yea pretty big

[zenith tundra]

i use too many belguns

[ionic magnet]

thats like a very balanced roll

i got one 100mm only while having 5 belguns and 3 127mm

[rugged harbor]

so many belguns 👀

[random vault]

considering we're getting w11(and sendai) soon, will the current pvp frontline meta be changed in any way?

[elder crane]

Regression towards the mean means most of us with many equips have relatively balanced sets, unless the person has hard farmed a map

[shy hazel]

ill kick out ayanami for sendai

[elder crane]

Not really, Sendai added as option

[shy hazel]

so sendai jint aurora

[elder crane]

Lol at running aya

[shy hazel]

for me

[random vault]

sendai and jint seems like madlad torp busting

[shy hazel]

[elder crane]

Go Sendai jint Aya for Max torpmemes

[shy hazel]

watch me and my three rainbow dildos

put a new hole in your vanguard

[elder crane]

In all seriousness, Sendai and Aurora is probs overkill, there's too much competition for the vanguard slots of Amkaga

[random vault]

yea theres belfap and also sirius

[shy hazel]

now i just need to follow the cool kids

[rugged harbor]

sirius wot

[elder crane]

And Juneau as well

[shy hazel]

on how to farm w11 fast

[zenith tundra]

belfast smoke is still a 15% extra evasion with only aurora

[elder crane]

I don't have trouble killing anyone through bel smoke, so it's overkill imo, at least on offense

I still think Juneau should be there

I'll try out Hiryuu/Amagi/Hood, Juneau/Sendai/Jint

Aurora in that team is just a placeholder for better stuff anyways

It's just that, for both that one and WaSDA, sendai's flares are mostly useless

[random vault]

[shy hazel]

breakthrough strategy

[random vault]

sendai seems really frail too

[shy hazel]

put rainbow dildos in amagi

[zenith tundra]

i have 41k pts and still need more because the shop is bugged....

why the hell cant stuff work in this game properly

[gilded atlas]

yeah the last shop still has items in it even though i rolled all

every few days i went back to check and found myself rolling more

hope she comes to eng soon

[lunar veldt]

gib hiryuu kai

[spice pagoda]

@olive thicket some people want to watch the world burn

[olive thicket]

whyyyy

[vague token]

free exp =D

[zenith tundra]

all the news about w11 and lvl 110 and not a single date

[vague token]

Soon (tm)

[ivory vine]

i would assume after wc

wouldnt really make sense to tease if it's not immediately after since there's still like 1.5 weeks left

[vague token]

presumably it'll show up either with or before w11?

[zenith tundra]

that stupid patch announced almost 10 days earlier is such a troll. there is no reason to announce that so earlier then it's out. now we have to wait till the end of this event where there's nothing left to do and just literally do nothing because they're gonna put the exp accumulation like 4 days max before lvl break.

on the same note unless they release w11 and lvl 110 at the same time with exp accumulation all this "news" are again most likely 10 days ahead too

[velvet fossil]

[ivory vine]

event ends in more than 10 days

so yeah

10+ days out

[hot creek]

I've already "wasted" a bunch of xp farming with capped ships plenty before this, no reason to get mad at a couple more days doing the same

also https://puu.sh/CUENs/da831c94e3.png

[zenith tundra]

#game-feedback i made a post there

[hot creek]

seems like a non-issue

anyways, time to train Benson

her FP stat is so bad though. Might be harder to get MVPs

[ionic magnet]

they announced things like this before so im kinda used to it by now. 2 weeks max. its not that bad imo

[zenith tundra]

tbh i would've been better not knowing exp accumulation was 9 days after an announcement

[ivory vine]

would've been better to just leave it in for the event

[zenith tundra]

especially since there's nothing to do in this event other then trying to clean a bugged shop...

[ivory vine]

instead of removing it just to clear the xp we had and making wc less enticing to farm

[hot creek]

good that they announce early, so i can overstack fuel for day 1 powerleveling.

[ionic magnet]

yes im really bored too. i just continued farming drop-only ships rn cos nothing else to do

[zenith tundra]

even w11 should've been in the middle of wc

this event shop is not that long to justify 3 weeks

[vague token]

i cant spend oil fast enough since im not THAT active xD

[hot creek]

i imagine pvp is going to be annoying if you fall behind on leveling

also oath ships gonna get even more stat scaling monkaS

[vague token]

yeah

i have 3 rings, one is gonna be for doy

not sure on other 2 yet

[ionic magnet]

not sure if i want to oath foxes at this point

nagato might come soon

[vague token]

i SHOULD probably oath amagi

but im not that into her

lol

she a function =(

[modern tree]

stacking exp on HMS is gonna feel so bad when it turns out they still win only barely

but I guess I will have level advantege for a bit, if nothing else

[zenith tundra]

i'm not gonna waste mental units on my foxes anytime soon tbh

i'd rather go for ships i need in w11

[hot creek]

farm w11 with lvl 100 ships

[zenith tundra]

idk if u remember 400 oil x run in w10 before danger level

for w11 is full fleets only

at lvl 100

[ionic magnet]

so er phx amagi shouhou?

and maybe z23/laffey

[hot creek]

my w10 runs only got up to like...250 oil or something cause I did manual

got jintsuu on day 1 or 2. worth

[zenith tundra]

well i'm not gonna manual because i have to waste mental units on pvp only ships

[vague token]

the true struggle, focus pve ships or pvp ships xD

at least amagi pulls double

[modern tree]

eh, I am just gonna play HMS like I did from day one

its just gonna feel bad when people get their pvp ships up to 110 and I will start losing half of my pvp games because HMS is meh

[vague token]

xD

[zenith tundra]

it's gonna be lvl 105 max for a bit before lvl 110. some person that played on jp said that that's what they got.

i would assume it's gonna be the same here

[modern tree]

tweet says 110, I am fine with either, but why announce 110 if you are going to do 105

[zenith tundra]

the goal is 110 but if u do it at once u create to much difference at once especially in pvp

[ivory vine]

well iirc there's a level break at 105 again

so they prob meant that

[hot creek]

time gated by the cognition shit anyways

dosnt matter how hard you grind

[ivory vine]

basically just wait til next event

[vague token]

it's a new daily for units right?

[zenith tundra]

having a lvl 110 ship would be a big advantage over some lvl 105

by limiting it to 105 u give everyone a fair chance

[ionic magnet]

ofc but we all will get to level at the same pace anyway

[zenith tundra]

i can put my units on my foxes and have them at lvl 110 while u have 4-5 ships at lvl 105. it wouldn't really be a good thing

as i said it's from what i heard people from jp say. it would also make the most sense imo

[ionic magnet]

its a trade-off. not that big of a deal imo. and they already announced 110 so

[vague token]

yeah the tweet was specifically 110

[zenith tundra]

they announced 2 retros 14 days most likely before the release

i wouldn't give much about the posts tbh

[vague token]

xD

[ionic magnet]

lets just wait and see i guess

[zenith tundra]

if they release lvl 110 form day 1 i'm just gonna dump my mental units on my akaga for fun

want to see who can beat that

[vague token]

ill probably do amagi/hiryuu

or hood hiryuu

[ionic magnet]

watch me do jesus

[vague token]

[hot creek]

its possible to fall behind on mental units if you don't S rank dailies monkaS

[vague token]

xD

[zenith tundra]

well it's easy to see if u s rank or not since it's 1 min needed

[vague token]

i mean, torp gets the least out of level boost xD

oh

also what the, aurora/eldridge/fortune amakaga defense

nani

i killed eldridge with just guns and weak torps lol

i dont need torps to murder eldridge

port kai aurora belfast

just guns her down

before 20

(203 mounted though)

nothing like final counter + an airstrike when no vanguard is present

lol

[hot creek]

Oh god. I'm just realizing the shittier implications of lvl cap increase now

no more testing meme fleets or experiementing

unless you want to waste mental units

[vague token]

yep

[zenith tundra]

sounds amazing to me

[vague token]

commit yo

i saved 3 rings for this day xD

now i must chooose

[hot creek]

rip any diversity. only meta now

[zenith tundra]

also gonna be fun not seeing all trash oath meme formation or at least not wasting more then 20 sec on them

[modern tree]

rip my 50 ships maxed for memes

[vague token]

oof

[zenith tundra]

i actually hate memes as a concept but the formations with no real reason to be in pvp that anyone can beat because they are there for the memes can disappear for all i care

[odd schooner]

Other servers had their mental units stacked so I'm guessing we'll end up memeing either way

[zenith tundra]

last reward and can't get it because of the bug and have to retry over and over again

[modern tree]

I am not sure if I will have drive to level this many ships to 110/120 even if I have a pile of mental units who am I kidding, I probably will do it eitheir way, it will just take time

[ionic magnet]

1 month to limit break pvp ships then after that, anything goes

[hot creek]

4.3 mil XP

[odd schooner]

Backline will just take a week each i guess

Problem is vg

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

it takes max 24 days for 6 sr ships less with elite ones

[shy hazel]

ive never changed my meme def fleet since the season started

[vague token]

lol

[hot creek]

heh. If people are forced into investing in their suboptimal VGs, a certain wasd defense will make things very annoying for a certain fox meta

[odd schooner]

Juneau is going to be a pain to raise so I'll put her on dorm immediately

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

i never even come close to lose to wasd with amakaga

[odd schooner]

Maybe ill put vg on dorm

2F backline

[shy hazel]

u ppl saying jun herr jun that

if u 110 her first

then shell never die

what will be her purpose

[odd schooner]

Idk abt you guys I'm sticking to mid juneau on def

[hot creek]

you are probably fighting trash wasd set ups. wasdA + junuea/aya/jintsuu defense can easily beat foxes with defense torp advantage

[shy hazel]

jun will stay 110 a long time

oops i mean

[zenith tundra]

once i get sendai i'll go for belfast jesus sendai defense for amakaga

[shy hazel]

100

[modern tree]

I am curious and since its leaderboards then it is sort of pvp. How many people in your event rankings have over 40400 points? Its enough to clear the whole gacha and I just realised Sandy has only 60 people that got this much so far, which seems rather low

[shy hazel]

im trying to see

if i can farm 20k

after march 10 patch

three days

for that exp

alrdy got the most impt stuff so wont lose anything if failed

[zenith tundra]

i have 42k pts and 1/1500 in ph4 because u keep getting t2 aa plates when they are exhausted

[vague token]

o.O

[zenith tundra]

u keep drawing and the t2 aa plates drops and it goes to - in the shop ui

[vague token]

oof

meanwhile im at 21k xD

im such a casual

[shy hazel]

im rushing retrofits so lol

[zenith tundra]

if it would be t2 general i would farm just to get extras of those the events maps but the aa is so useless. i went back to maya now

[hot creek]

interesting

imagine if that bug gave you infinite of something useful

[zenith tundra]

if it would've been t3 bps it would've been fixed by now

but since it's trash it takes eternity for fix

[vague token]

probably wont get fixed rip

[zenith tundra]

even on avrora barely 92 ppl have 40k+ pts

[charred raptor]

When the ranking reset in 6 hours, does it always starts you at 5 exercise total?

[hot creek]

yes.

[zenith tundra]

yes

[charred raptor]

So, I can just use up my current remaining exercises without care?

[zenith tundra]

ofc

[charred raptor]

Cool, thanks

[shy hazel]

new season

new sandbag

[zenith tundra]

jp/cn shops had 2k mental units for wc

no wonder u will have a lot of them

[shy hazel]

lets see

season finale reset soon

who will be the top sandbagger

[hot creek]

if I were to guess, it would be me. On Sandy of course, but thats not much of an achievement

[ionic magnet]

hmm ive been testing sirius vs aurora

sad to say, aurora is still way better

sirius can still win me fights but aurora just makes my opening torps deadly that fights are always one sided

with sirius, its still a win but fights are much closer

tested on jintsuu+juneau+sirius/aurora btw

[hot creek]

use sirius and aurora together

• Benson

[ionic magnet]

yea i tried that too and its pretty bad

dropping jesus for sirius+aurora is too rng-ish

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/CUKwb/b2cf29d7c5.png top 10 at 5/10 charges feelsgoodman

plus I got daxam in my lobby.

its like christmas again

[zenith tundra]

well best reset too sleep on attempts

[subtle whale]

level 110

[zenith tundra]

lost 3 attempts because i'm tired as hell

[subtle whale]

time to 110 portland

[hybrid tendon]

been using sirius AND aurora

kicking belfast

[charred sable]

That's two attacks that could have been 10 points but ended up being 9. The first was cause I wasn't paying attention and didn't notice my opponent was lower rank. The second was this last attack. So could have been r7 season end

[hot creek]

gotta pay attention, mang. espeically this late in the season

[odd schooner]

Last season 10th ranker was 2588

I forgot to record 2 seasons ago 10th placer

But 9th was 2586 2 seasons ago

Apparently the same person too

[shy hazel]

[hot creek]

shiny

[shy hazel]

dont fight me im tryhard pvp def fleet

[odd schooner]

You guys

[hybrid tendon]

Sandbagging after gensui

Whats the point

[hot creek]

to be numbah 1

[odd schooner]

Ultra flex

So far it's 2607 right

Wonder if they'll break it soon

[shy hazel]

i wonder if anyone knows

how much score need to get -2

[odd schooner]

-2 loss?

[shy hazel]

8 instead of 9

we know any rank lower gets 9

[odd schooner]

And 35 less is -2

Let's try

Hmm

Oh wait can't try since I'm at rank 5k area

Can't see enemy scores

[ionic magnet]

maybe 35 yea

fought someone 30 pts lower and its still +9

[odd schooner]

Not in top 100 feels boring now i kinda get why I do pvp everyday

No customers today and got no one to talk to either

And can't bully ships because low power

[hot creek]

can I be your customer?

[vague token]

o.O

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/CUQHW/6976fcb14e.png couldnt break 2600 feelsbadman

oh wow. I had one more opponent refresh. maybe I shouldnt have eaten that +9 earlier...

[modern tree]

There's always next season

[real notch]

wow

i just got

+17

lolol

[odd schooner]

You're resting this season too requ?

[real notch]

to be honest recently i haven't had much chances to play

cus i got a gf and i don't want her to know i'm a weeb

so when she stays over i always forget to open AL

[modern tree]

What a horrible life

[real notch]

yea... ikr

[vague token]

=(

that's kinda... sad

[shy hazel]

u dont hide anything woth your partner

pls

[real notch]

she's gone now so i'm free to catch up

[vague token]

xD

clearly what you must do

is recruit her

to be pvp mastah

[shy hazel]

btw avrora pvp master race at it again

kamita

[real notch]

[shy hazel]

2607

[real notch]

lol kamita

[vague token]

dear god

[real notch]

i have him in my testing docs

[hot creek]

she needs to accept that waifus are laifu.

show her the way

[shy hazel]

i wnder

if that,usual top one

will compete

forgot name again

lol

[vague token]

they are one with the sand

[real notch]

you're right

i should get her into AL

[shy hazel]

i dropped to rank 9

[vague token]

oof

[shy hazel]

k time to the real fight

season end five minutes

[hot creek]

man, I had such a crappy season start

but ended up getting my personal highest this season

[shy hazel]

lost a charge

[dusk citrus]

i fell asleep and forgot 1 match lol

[shy hazel]

[hot creek]

ouch

[shy hazel]

kamita won this season

i droppes to rank 13

🔪

my top ten season end goal

🚮

[livid fractal]

Top 7 for me

[real notch]

it's famine

[hot creek]

victorius casual secretary master race

[real notch]

the level 111 guy

[shy hazel]

famine won last season

[modern tree]

Can't believe Sandy has just enough tryhards to kick my 0 effort sandbagging from top 3. What happened

[hot creek]

yeah that was quite a roller coaster

[dusk citrus]

more people in the initial gensui rush than the usual 3-4

where'd they all come from???

[modern tree]

Maybe they are tired of seeing Phoenix at the top. Gotta work a little harder tho

[dusk citrus]

just more points for us in the end

[sharp obsidian]

I am 200 pulls (400 cubes) into this event already and still no Sheffield. I need a ritual to make her join me. Does anyone know any? 😦

I have sacrificed a bird already

I am sad 😦

[hot creek]

ritual for summoning: fap

[calm vector]

A bird? Goats? How about u give ur virginity to rngesus

[hot creek]

sheffield has some good doujins you know

[sharp obsidian]

How can you do so without Sheffield in your dock

I needs her

400 cubes is surely a big enough sacrifice already

[odd schooner]

@shy hazel this season must be crazy lmao you got booted out of top 10 with a score higher than the other 3 seasons before

[calm vector]

Unless your out of cubes, it's never a big enough sacrifice

[charred raptor]

I have the same problem with Sirius, I think I've gotten every other possible SRs while trying to build her

[sharp obsidian]

What? So I have to empty out my last reserves? 😦 😦 😦

[odd schooner]

Someone is at 1k cube 0 aurora

So anything could happen

[sharp obsidian]

Mercy please 😦

[calm vector]

Unless u need sheefield, best to save

I have just about given up on grenville

[sharp obsidian]

Hmm...

I have never failed to complete my collection before...

If I give up now, then this will be the first time 😦

[calm vector]

Yep that's what I'm fearing

[sharp obsidian]

Well, that is true

I suppose it is time to give up...?

I'll set a cap at 500 cubes

[odd schooner]

[sharp obsidian]

If I fail to get her within the 500 cube limit, then I will give up 😦

[odd schooner]

That's the same situation last fallen wings lol

[calm vector]

F

Lazu how much cubes do u have wtf

[odd schooner]

Ye from September

[modern tree]

Very important

[odd schooner]

Not sure if there's gensui august

I think there isnt

[calm vector]

What's gensui

[sharp obsidian]

@calm vector , I started the event with close to 600 cubes from stockpiling. I only pull during limited + daily builds

Now I am down to ~200 cubes

[calm vector]

I don't remember this

Yeah I'm trying to think back

[modern tree]

I am down to 30 cubes after pulling for Sheff. I usually let go of one purple ship every major event, but it's Sheffield

And I needed it

[calm vector]

What in the world I guess I just don't pay attention

[odd schooner]

Sheffield is a precious maid

[calm vector]

Tbh rate up this event is an absolute lie

[jovial sedge]

So

Is there anything more accurate than airpanda guide?

[modern tree]

Experience

Trying stuff is free

[jovial sedge]

Ye well there is somth like this was tried many times over by people with enough time to try it... so why fuck up with random bullshit

[modern tree]

Because it's about the journey

[calm vector]

Cuz you never know what you might stumble upon

[hot creek]

You'll want sheffy for T0 stall comp.

[jovial sedge]

Most like 99% on bs

[coral wren]

So...

Are we going to get 110 cap level before this season ends or after

[odd schooner]

Near future

[calm vector]

After

Exp accum starts on 10tg

10th*

[jovial sedge]

[real notch]

POGGERS

i just got victorious

[vague token]

[coral wren]

Should i proceed torturing myself with hms...

Fucking eternal anglo

[hot creek]

nah, just use foxes.

[jovial sedge]

Ugh foxes

[hot creek]

what, don't you guys have foxes?

[coral wren]

Have akagi at 70 and don't have kaga

[odd schooner]

Try them now before we get some shift in pvp

[vague token]

i dont have akagi nor jintsuu lol

who needs foxes xD

[ionic magnet]

foxes saves lives

get them now

[real notch]

foxes oppppppppppp

does anyone have 200 aff dork yet

i wanna see how new HMS fleets test against amakaga

[jovial sedge]

Got baga not kaga and I hate to be the most op build user

I fought dork today... beat it with few resets but thags enty flipcoin ship

[coral wren]

i wanna see how new HMS fleets test against amakaga
Probably like shit aka coin flip

[jovial sedge]

Most likely not surviving it...

[coral wren]

hood barrage=coin flip
leander smoke to dodge opening torps=coin flip
wasting some salvo shots on ded fox=coin flip

chinese retarded ai guiding your vang to eat all torps and then back off to backline so it would be also bombed=coin flip

[odd schooner]

@jovial sedge just get everyone and you won't notice any difference until you woke up 6 minutes before pvp reset and 10/10

[coral wren]

Amazing shit if you ask me

[odd schooner]

[real notch]

yea my prediction is HMS won't beat amakaga

but it might be a more decent matchup against wasd

[coral wren]

Kill ntrprise before it lays eggs. That's all about it

[jovial sedge]

Its all about coin flip thats wht I thought they should just change it to that instead of reseting and closely watching how you either proc or not... also how fast you do pvp after reset

[ionic magnet]

BB targetting is so random its not fun at all

[odd schooner]

That's the difference between factions atm cause ijn doesn't need much rng to screw everyone up

Wonder if rhine drill on Bismarck is also rng

[coral wren]

That;s funny, considering ijn got super rekt during pacific war

[vague token]

AP guns should prioritize Main Fleet =D

with their first mount

[jovial sedge]

Was wondering did you try NC in pvp could she work? Having all those anti aircraft skills

[distant osprey]

at the beginnings of seasons...am i going to get 50 merit at most per fight because everyone is unranked? or is there a way to get more by waiting?

[modest elbow]

The merits you get from pvp fights is based on your current rank, not the rank of opponents, so it's always 50 merits at the start.

Once you rank up though, merits per battle may increase

[distant osprey]

i see. how often do they rank you up? been playing for a while but i'm still kinda unfamiliar with exactly how some people can achieve aotn but even if i'm lossless, i have less merit, for example.

is it wherever you end up right before a reset?

[modest elbow]

It's by basically gaming the point system

Nah, you gain points, and rank is related by how many points you have at the time

At the higher ranks, placement is also required besides points

/wiki exercises

[strange moat]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Exercises

[distant osprey]

thanks. i swear i've been to that page a bunch before but never saw the "strategies" section until now.

oof.

[thick onyx]

for season start is it better to wait for 10 charges before doing pvp or should i just take the points from left most if i see the person has already a huge rank gap like maybe 2000 ranks apart during the first 5 charge time period if my objective is to get more bonus points?

[gilded atlas]

take when you can

[willow storm]

Idea for a pvp team rn. Belfast Helena Aurora Queen Liz DoY and Warspite

is that decent?

[azure aurora]

No

Especially with amakaga meta

[willow storm]

welp

[azure aurora]

Change Helena to rianda

Leander

[willow storm]

shes not retroed yet. only level 54

i am working on her though

*57

[coral wren]

cygnet?

[willow storm]

havent touched her much so shes below level 30

[storm pasture]

What's the good setup for vanguard in amakaga fleet?

[shy hazel]

aurora jintsu + ayanami/belfast/juneau

[empty sinew]

Why does Dork shoot the opponent's top girl? Our furthest from the flagship is the opponent's top slot?

cuz in normal stages, she always aim (from flagship btw) for the bottom most ship (even if there's 2 ships in the same column)

[shy hazel]

im not hms specialist but well

doy's barrage maybe the same as spite

farthest player get hit

so if u put your doy on left top

she'll target right bottom

maybe

putting her at flagship should be coin toss

[empty sinew]

yee it targets further bote, but isn't bottom bote the furthest

[shy hazel]

not necessarily i think

a fk