pvp

[vague token]

but that would require like

a fighter mechanics rework

[shy hazel]

well

a recon plane cant provide recon when its dead is it

[vague token]

yeah, but the game literally only has planes that fly straight across

oh wait

[shy hazel]

at least irl logic

[vague token]

actually there are those helicopter things

that the sirens use

the fighter could do that

where it scoots around on your side of the screen

[shy hazel]

jp discord theory is

plane dead or not

as long as it launch

buff will roll in

slowly

plane launch after 10

then 8 seconds aftercthat

u get buffs

but its only self buff anyways

so 🚮 for pvp

id rather just use essex

or ent

[vague token]

yeah

it would definitely be better if it worked like those siren hover planes and kinda sat on your side

then adjust the buffs to be faster

but then the vanguard or friendly planes can shoot it down

since it hovers in an area that is easily shot at

xD

[ionic magnet]

the plane needs to die so you can have the chance for a barrage

thats some cheesy mechanic

baits enemy fighters also so its not bad (depends if aerial barrage has relevant damage ofc)

[vague token]

and it doesnt work in pve =D

unless they add aa guns to world 13 lol

[ionic magnet]

nah who cares with pve

kappa

[vague token]

true

[ionic magnet]

her first skill is another airstrike too

curious hows the damage

[vague token]

80% activation

who chooses these xD

[ionic magnet]

oi enty has 70%

[vague token]

well, i meant like i thought 70 was the standard

like, it's usually 30, 70, or always

but then we get bb kaga with a 50

[ionic magnet]

i see. thats true

[vague token]

and now this with an 80

will the 10 even be a big deal?

why not make it 100?

reee

[ionic magnet]

to piss people ofc

lmao

[vague token]

only 20% fail chance, how could you rng

[ionic magnet]

watch me fail 3x in a row

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

inb4 last patch removed 381 from the game because en was not supposed to get that trough core data

btw what was that patch? what did they fucked up again?

[shy hazel]

yea sudden patch

imagine if shit happens

u were sandbagging

and got 50mb update on last 5 min u reset the game

[leaden sequoia]

if you're lucky, some people might have written about that already in chats, so you just don't go to main menu

and fight without log out/in

[hot creek]

well you wanna refresh login anyways

which is what i did

and got hit with the forced update

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

five star admiral with 5/10 feels like im playing on sandy

[shy hazel]

im getting the feeling

were getting too much

ninpatches

[livid fractal]

@shy hazel

I saw you when I try to climbed up

[shy hazel]

hory shit

donrektmepls

[livid fractal]

already did

[shy hazel]

[leaden sequoia]

PvP is all about mutual bullying, so I approve

and actual ninpatches would get downloaded by themselves

[shy hazel]

well

im still Admiral at 5/10

due to one dumb charge i skipped on

[leaden sequoia]

8 skipped matches, can't even get to top 100 now

[vague token]

oof

[clear cloud]

After 10s start of the battle send out a f6f plane. if the plane is destroyed, trigger a air strike barrage. after releasing the plane, every 8s increase acc by 3%, damage by 7%. Stack up to 5 times.

so is this for pvp?

[vague token]

yeah, it is yet isnt

it takes 18 seconds for first proc

xD

you get an extra air strike though

if it dies too fast =D

uss first strike

;)

or w/e an air strike barrage is

no idea what the heck that even means

[clear cloud]

F6F is a hellcat tho. that's like 2x500lb bomb and only 1 plane

[vague token]

no, when the f6f dies

trigger an air strike barrage

no idea what planes it sends

the f6f doesnt do the strike

if it does that'd be a weird kamikaze styled thing on uss lol

well, it is a wiki translation

i dont think they've used the phrase "air strike barrage" before

so who knows what that actually means

lol

[clear cloud]

her 1st skill is hornet air strike with higher chance to trigger

[vague token]

from 60 to 80

weird activation rates lol

[leaden sequoia]

now I want to see 90 activation rate, just to mess with those unfortunate enough to not get it procced

[vague token]

X_x

also wut, out of date game

mini patch?

[leaden sequoia]

yep

[vague token]

oh ryuujou fake extra days

[leaden sequoia]

released 15 minutes before server reset

[vague token]

i got trolled so hard by that event banner

[leaden sequoia]

you didn't get Ryuujou?

[vague token]

no

thought i had until the 27th like the banner said

[leaden sequoia]

welp

not that she's very good in anything

[vague token]

she's just collection fodder it's fineeeee

[leaden sequoia]

just an ok ship

[vague token]

i didnt get graf spee either, didnt start farming the map soon enough

and that one was a week too xD

[coral wren]

that's weird, already 30 mins after reset and noone in lobby has moved

[leaden sequoia]

you got people from a timezone where ppl are sleeping, perhaps

[vague token]

they sleeping or sandbagging xD

[leaden sequoia]

what I learned from playing AL events so far (DC, CE, Graf Spee, Solomon Ranger, WC):

• only trust the earliest end date that ever appeared in game, but not less than 1 week
• event exchange (via shop, gacha or banner menu) is always available 1 week after the event
• do goddamn grinding at the very beginning cause you get lazy by the end of the event

[vague token]

i dont do a lot of attacks usually so xD

but yeah makes sense

[zenith tundra]

i got ryuujou 1st day after sp3 fix because i was bored of farming maya and next day had to right back to 8-4

[vague token]

yeah i dont get anywhere near enough attacks to do that in a day lol

[shy hazel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AzureLane/comments/avkr9i/an_important_reminder_for_everyone/ehfyo7m/

who is our friend

who did this write up

if u ask me ppl are worshipping gold broom too much

[ionic magnet]

you should post something about your rainbow dildo too

[shy hazel]

what are you saying

rainbow dildo is best item in shop until shells happen

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

how much do shells go for again?

[shy hazel]

same as gold broom

800 iirc

[coral wren]

how much dmg does 100 torp stat give you on torps

[shy hazel]

torp dmg are multiplicative

they say

[coral wren]

Hm

[clear cloud]

w/ 0 base stat 100 torp give 100% increase

[vague token]

you'd have to use the formula xD

[shy hazel]

imlazy pls

dont ask me

but rainbow dildo is op

[clear cloud]

300 base stat give 25% increase

[coral wren]

Doesn't look that op...but since ai main purpose is to catch all of torps perhaps it's better than boiler anyway

[zenith tundra]

the main issue is that rainbow dildo is always in the shop while the golden broom will be much harder to get later on. so even if rainbow dildo is a better item itll be easier to get later the the golden broom

[clear cloud]

i think we still have a long time until research come

[idle python]

jp released in september and pr research began on end of april so about 7.5 months

en already 6 months in almost 6.5

[ionic magnet]

noone knows for sure so why not get it now

[idle python]

ofc it still take a while to 25 bp but I wouldn't be surprised if it was soon

[zenith tundra]

research will be soon enough after w11

should be less then 2 months from now

the whole no rerun thing from before wc is because well get a lot of stuff in between wc and w12 stacked up together

subs cooming soon too w11 at the door research and new event all this most likely before w12

[coral wren]

They still haven't reworked subs, right?

[zenith tundra]

they havent reworked ar ships too

tomorrow should be new core data shop right? cant wait to see what it has

[clear cloud]

if that 1 day means today is the last day and not today+tomorrow like in exchange shop

[zenith tundra]

it supposed to be monthly imo

[leaden sequoia]

it is, but who knows how this is implemented in code

there could be an off-by-one error

[zenith tundra]

well today is last day of february so i would guess last day of current shop too

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

i want the new shop but i know that some people still dont have 800 so its fine either way

[shy hazel]

shells where

but in virtue

[zenith tundra]

shells shouldnt be soon tbh

[shy hazel]

core shop should get items that u cant get anymore after events

and the event that has shells isnt ingame yet

[zenith tundra]

they wetent in the shop at the beginning

[shy hazel]

so we need the event first

i believe

mikasa event had the shells

or was it kongou sisters events

[zenith tundra]

i have no clue

[shy hazel]

kongou sisters

[odd schooner]

[shy hazel]

i heard all of them are trash

[odd schooner]

Wonder how much would it give

[zenith tundra]

not much

this after attacking

free +1 thanks rngs

[ionic magnet]

my rolls are all sleeping

[shy hazel]

1

scumbag sandbagger

🔪 🔪 🔪

[vague token]

hiei has first strike aegis

triggers at 10 seconds

then she dies

xD

[shy hazel]

@zenith tundra

[coral wren]

Aaand i actually met one guy with juneau on the middle. 10 resets so far already

even with stat bonus bel aur and jin get shit on

[zenith tundra]

now not even 1st place is enough for a +1. people need to sandbag more

[shy hazel]

srsly

lul

[zenith tundra]

now rank 1 is

[willow storm]

is this supposed to say rank 0

[coral wren]

yes

you need to go over rank 1000 to start getting more rewards

[willow storm]

what leaderboard? fleet power or millitary rankings

[coral wren]

current rank

[willow storm]

huh

[coral wren]

says at bottom left of that screenshot

[willow storm]

so you cant get rear admiral until top 1000?

ah

[coral wren]

above merit

[willow storm]

welp, how do you raise it? do you just keep winning exercises or something?

[modern tree]

0 shows how much points you need until next rank, but sides to that, ranks require a leaderboard position. Your points total determines your position on leaderboards so you just keep winning against people that have more points than you (leftmost opponent) to climb up

[willow storm]

welp, guess i need to start getting a ton more gold and purple gear and start getting some ships made for PVP... that'll probably take me a couple months at the least

[modern tree]

if you lose games or miss attempts, you will end up with less points total and it will be harder to reach those tresholds

[willow storm]

so if you have exercise rounds left over at the end of day your rank goes down?

[shy hazel]

oops

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/483519046721994753/547956689907875861/unknown.png

[coral wren]

compared to people who use all their exercises yes

[modern tree]

there are 3 reset points, they happen when the "recover" timer reaches 0

[coral wren]

but your score will stay the same just others will get more

[modern tree]

if you have more than 5 attempts when you recover attempts, you lose some

[willow storm]

huh

ig its too early for me to start doing pvp, since i dont have a lot of good gear or good pvp ships

[coral wren]

no way

[modern tree]

It's not too early, you can still get merits and stuff

it may be too early to think about top 1k positionis

[coral wren]

just click new opponent if they are too hard to beat

[modern tree]

but you should definetly keep playing

its free

[willow storm]

i'm out tho

so i have to wait till 2morow

i'm just trying to push to 20k Merit for Eldridge

[leaden sequoia]

early game you can use PvP for free exp and merit for gold boxes

[coral wren]

you still got like over half the total merits you can get

[willow storm]

is it worth getting both of the 20k ships from the merit shop before getting the gold boxes?

[coral wren]

its up to you if you like them

[willow storm]

i mean, my best BB rn is duke

and i dont have washington since i started in chinese new year

[coral wren]

yeah they can wait

they wont ever leave the shop so you can get the boats anytime

[shy hazel]

in the past i just buy purins

but now i have too many

so i dont buy any

90k merits

[willow storm]

also, for opening the T4 boxes, is it better to save up to 20 of each t4 box to have a decent chance?

or would 50 of each box be better

[shy hazel]

depends on u

5 is enuf for me

rng is rng

[leaden sequoia]

drop chance is a fixed value, it doesn't change with how many boxes you open at once

[modern tree]

opening more boxes at the time wont affect what you get from them

do what makes you feel good about it

[azure aurora]

Open 10 at once almost guarantee 1 gold eq

[coral wren]

i always feel like i get luckier if i open them in big bulks

[azure aurora]

If 1 by 1

[coral wren]

you monster

[azure aurora]

Already tired with zero spam

[modern tree]

Close your eyes when opening boxes for maximum gold drop chance

[leaden sequoia]

Don't open boxes for maximum gold drop chance

[coral wren]

hold B + Up

[azure aurora]

Banana

[leaden sequoia]

Flammable banana

[azure aurora]

To this day i still mad about sb2c > Btd

Cant full gold CV

[coral wren]

i scrapped my btds

after i levelled them as a noob and wasted all my plates

[shy hazel]

gold sb2c is the future

[azure aurora]

Still no dive better than sb2c right ?

[shy hazel]

[leaden sequoia]

inb4 we get a rainbow fighter or torpbomber so BiS gear will have 3 colors

[shy hazel]

i say fuck

just skip gold and go straight to rainbow

rainbow sb2c

[coral wren]

[willow storm]

i need to find someone to put my fairey fighter and blackburn firebrand on

[shy hazel]

make 10 second pvp fights possible

[willow storm]

i think i have 5 golds rn

3 are for CVs

[shy hazel]

prioritize foxes

[azure aurora]

3 banana rn

2 foxes 1 enty

[willow storm]

i'm just mostly looking for Gold steam catapults for if i ever get Enty

[leaden sequoia]

don't worry, I've been playing for nearly 3 months and only have 1 gold steam catapult :pepeHands:

[azure aurora]

Don't worry i play this game since PoW event and only 5 gold cata

But 20 crane

[modern tree]

its okay, in another 3 you will wonder why do you even bother opening boxes anymore

[azure aurora]

For 127 mm ?

All ship need it

Especially that creep elite you got from event

[wise summit]

yaaay gold gun

[modern tree]

twin 127mm is moderately overrated as a DD gun, you will rarely need more than 4 and you are also likely to farm up like 3 before you get out of the Inazuma hell

[azure aurora]

Don't remind me of that oni again

[shy hazel]

french dd gun when

[modern tree]

srs tho, twin 127 outside of pvp is super whatever gun unless you really like the bonus stats it has on 120 or 127 single or like Laffey a lot

[shy hazel]

[leaden sequoia]

[willow storm]

[zenith tundra]

i use twin 127 as aux gun on gunboats as gun for jesus sirius (only lb2) and laffey and as aux for amagi, pretty much i never have enough.

[coral wren]

Has anyone ever gotten golden 113 aa from royal box?

I think i opened a shitton of them but the best drop i got so far was barracuda

[split socket]

I've only ever received it from boxes

[shy hazel]

ufo?

[zenith tundra]

yes

[shy hazel]

i only know street names not the actual

i got 3 from boxes

[zenith tundra]

gold cuda and rombas are pretty rare to get from boxes at least for me

[modern tree]

Every 113 I have is farmed

[coral wren]

Farming it is one of the most unfun things in this game

[modern tree]

I don't think there is more pleasant place to farm than 7-2 tho. It could always be 9-3 instead

[zenith tundra]

9-2 is just as bad as 9-3

12-4 map looks like hell wtf

[modern tree]

World 9 is unpleasant and it is a good thing thst it doesn't drop gear you would want in abundance

[zenith tundra]

when will next patch be? since they announced a retro it shouldn't be that far away and it also might be w11 patch too

[finite valve]

if that the case they might just piss more ppl off lol

fix overflow exp then patch open up w11

LMFAO

[zenith tundra]

the fix was made before w11 so it wouldn't create too much chaos as if they released the fix and w11 together

[finite valve]

and ppl will still be piss either way

[zenith tundra]

the fuck up already happened no point in delaying stuff because of it

[finite valve]

well if w11 did come then at least i can farm bofor

5-4 bofor got no purple plate zzz

[zenith tundra]

11-3 is only lvl 105 might be doable with lvl 100 ships without killing ur oil

[shy hazel]

i farmed quite alot of bofor bp at ce

1 and 3/4

only need a few for another

[finite valve]

got enough to field 2 fleet but still need more

[zenith tundra]

i wonder if we'll have a patch or mini patch for core data shop

[finite valve]

core shop is just basically a medal shop

doubt they going to patch it

what your opinion on shangrila?

her 2 skill kinda 50 50 for me

[zenith tundra]

so it just changes based on a preset or random cool...

uss -> 🚮

[finite valve]

[random vault]

dunno how her remote control plane work, also dunno how her 'barrage' will work

so kinda up in the air atm

[zenith tundra]

i don't even think uss as an actual pvp comp just a bunch of ships out there

[finite valve]

what worse is that the plane need to be shoot down to be of any use

like really?

[random vault]

yeah, that pretty much makes her 2nd skill pvp only

[finite valve]

well at least independence is for pve

the buff is too good lel

not to mention all of the cleve class are all good

[zenith tundra]

independence stats are mediocre tbh

[random vault]

independence basically a uss chaser

without the anti sub capabilities but a bit more beefy

[zenith tundra]

Air Power 273 at lvl 100

is that a joke?

[random vault]

chaser has lower air power but has the meme takeoff skill

[zenith tundra]

with centaur around any non heal cvl are kinda of severely outclassed

[random vault]

well, yeah, centaur does invalidate lot of em

[real notch]

strong apparently?

[finite valve]

PR shit = impossible to get

[modern tree]

red value is dps afaik so it's just like having 2 bofors

with 30 range

wth

[real notch]

lmao that ROF

hilarious

[pearl nimbus]

ayy lmao

More broken equipment

And you can give that shit to Sandy kai

[modern tree]

weird way to buff AR ships but okay

[pearl nimbus]

not wrong

[real notch]

nerf op ass amagi hiryuu
buff the shit out of other stuff

[modern tree]

putting 2 of those on AR is just casual 8 bofors

I guess W12 is dead

who cares

PR shit being hard to farm is nothing new

[finite valve]

since when PR gear is not hard to farm?

[modern tree]

in a month this will be the only way to play the game

hm

[pearl nimbus]

[finite valve]

so event gear?

[pearl nimbus]

Vestal is straight up having heart eyes over this.

[finite valve]

meaning only 1 per player

LMFAO

[modern tree]

just having 2 of those is enough to never worry about planes again

[gilded atlas]

watashi wa nambah wan

[pearl nimbus]

Sandy kai + those bofors = crying Akaga

[finite valve]

if CV is dead then just move on to BB

[gilded atlas]

[finite valve]

i see no problem

unless you only raise CV and no BB

so?

move to BB

[pearl nimbus]

I mean Wasd comps don't really care tbh

neither do HMS fleets

[finite valve]

yep

if CV is dead in pvp that mean they going to buff it using more broken gear

[pearl nimbus]

So in the grand scheme of things it's not that gamebreaking in terms of PvP.

[finite valve]

is a circle lol

[leaden sequoia]

Centaur might care?

[modern tree]

it's not really a circle

[leaden sequoia]

or is she not PvP relevant

[finite valve]

any CV will care

we are talking about pvp

centaur is a niche

and how it is not a circle?

[modern tree]

Centaur's abilities work regardless of her planes surviving so shes proabably shrugging right now

its just a hit to the damage carriers like Enterprise and akaga

[finite valve]

pvp meta has been mostly center about CV doing huge ass dps

now they introduce CV killer = CV dead in pvp

then later buff them up using broken gear

circle repeat

lol

[modern tree]

you cant possibly make gear that will make up for your planes just dying

[pearl nimbus]

Aren't Enty's planes ghosted during E's proc?

[modern tree]

they arent

[pearl nimbus]

Ah, so that's an urban myth.

oof

[leaden sequoia]

you can, just add +500 HP to planes

[modern tree]

they released jet fuel recently and I am pretty sure they arent going to add more plane health auxes

unless they were planning to change jet fuel

[finite valve]

whatever they do CV going to get buff just like BB

mark my words

[pearl nimbus]

Gotcha.

[modern tree]

it doesnt matter what they do to cv because this sort of shows the direction they are going for, which is trivialising current top end pve content, which might mean jack shit, or that they are about to release something new

[pearl nimbus]

inb4 they lock out the new bofors from PvP usage

PvE only gear

[modern tree]

they wont make gear you have to farm 25 bps for unuseable in pvp

[finite valve]

[x] doubt

[pearl nimbus]

Just a suggestion

[finite valve]

that gear is event gear

not pr

on a side note anything that kill meta is a + for me

[modern tree]

maybe we are missing something

[finite valve]

since i love to see the word burn

just ask zack (or was it stella?) to test out the new bofor

[modern tree]

CVs are sort of a joke in this game and making the non support ones irrelevant in the only game mode they could really be used is sort of a strange move tbh, so maybe this gun has a hidden mechanic that makes it stand in line with everything else and the shit from the wiki is just raw stats, especially if its farm only

[finite valve]

[vague token]

wait what's going on, some new aa gun that's totally op?

/just woke up

[finite valve]

seem like it

[zenith tundra]

al just got the best cv killer so far what does this weapon do that ws kai cannot do?

[finite valve]

yeh

my opinion on this matter is just CV dead = move to BB

no problem

[vague token]

that feeling when AL meta doesnt reflect history

era of the CV? amagi lied

[finite valve]

off with her head

chop chop

[vague token]

that's a bit much

xD

[zenith tundra]

yeah interesting how cv which should be superior to anything are really almost unusable outside of support ones

[finite valve]

maybe they plan to power creep with w13?

[vague token]

i mean, that's how it is when you're burst oriented in a game that's dps oriented

[finite valve]

that could be a thought

[vague token]

especially in pve lol

they'd have to rework plane mechanics

[zenith tundra]

pve cvs are pretty much a waste of oil. even enty can be outdamaged by a mere dd

[vague token]

well yeah, dps shines super hard in pve xD

when a boat has 10k+ hp

you dont need burst

you want dps

[leaden sequoia]

let's blame on Sirens for eavesdropping on Amagi when she said that and deliberately making her words lies

[vague token]

after alterprise did her thing sirens had to change history clearly

[modern tree]

its just a concept of big damage thing on a cooldown when enemies come in waves, combined with how AA works as a stat

damage cvs spend too much time doing nothing

and at the time they do something, its hard to break through high end AA

[vague token]

to fix id probably make it so that AA doesnt act as damage reduction, but also make it so planes have to work for their damage

bombs and torps should be launched later

so you can shoot them down

then adjust fighters

to automatically circle, instead of suiciding

so dog fights are an actual mechanic

dive bombers do The Most damage, but cannot drop if contested by a fighter

torp bombers are safer, being fire and forget, but less damage

[modern tree]

thats a lot of revamping for well established mechanics

besides, we dont know what will come with new ui

[zenith tundra]

all that's gonna happen is already here. cv will get extra airstrikes on x occasion and gg

[modern tree]

it might just be a sign of things to come

[vague token]

i mean, you'd have to have a real rework

to make it go beyond what we got

xD

otherwise cvs have to be broken or use brute force

or just dont do damage in pve lol

[zenith tundra]

the problem is balancing a cv that can deal huge amounts of aoe dmg with a bb that mostly hit single target

[modern tree]

aoe is actually useless in this game beyond killing boats in a torp daily

[zenith tundra]

and what ends up being is just underpowered almost pointless aoe with op single target

[vague token]

personally, id make dive bombers single target

where the dive bombers choose a ship

and actually do a dive run

xD

[willow storm]

they should go for the highest max health ship

and just annihilate it out of existence XD

[vague token]

i mean, they'd get contested by fighters

or sandy

[willow storm]

imagine a dive bomber where it just drops a nuke and a mushroom cloud shows on screen

XD

[zenith tundra]

too overly complicated mechanics tbh

al is pretty simple and straight forward

outside of aa

[vague token]

i mean, fighters are a little too simple and dive bombers are like slow bb guns

there's no concept of "air superiority" at all

how else do you add more damage without adding more mechanics and risk

to balance them out

xD

[willow storm]

i feel like its rarer to get a gold item to get out of a t4 box then it is to get a purple item out of a T3 box

[vague token]

probably

[willow storm]

when it technically should be the same

i need like so many gold items rn

Steam catapults for the fox sisters

and maybe enty if i ever get her

[modern tree]

patience

[willow storm]

true

oof, i forgot to enhance ayanami

shes level 58 and shecan get another 48 on her torpedo stat

thats gonna take a while

T_T

[modern tree]

not gonna lie, watching you have such early game problems in pvp chat is adorable. how long have you been playing?

[willow storm]

Lol, forgot i was in PVP chat

and i started somewhere in the chinese new year

so i'm still somewhat new

[modern tree]

you are playing for less time than it took me to get both akagi and kaga then, you still have ways to go, enjoy it

[willow storm]

thanks

i'll probably just save up to 100 gold boxes then open them all with the face on

XD

[zenith tundra]

just open boxes it makes no difference if u open 1 or 100 it's always rng

and also gold equip is pretty rare from t4 which is why u shouldn't get them and hope u find something good

[willow storm]

My best ship atm

[real notch]

good choice

[coral wren]

Raffey

[willow storm]

[finite valve]

seem like the bofor is drop only shit

LMFAO

[willow storm]

oof

[finite valve]

no wonder it is broken

[modern tree]

I dont even know what is this icon supposed to be

[finite valve]

25 bp for 1 and it is event drop only

LMFAO

[coral wren]

yikes

hardcore people will farm 6 of them for sure

[finite valve]

also another side note

the event only drop BLUE plate

yes you hear me right

BLUE FUCKING PLATE

[coral wren]

and then newbies will just get stomped if theres ever a plane pvp meta

[finite valve]

and no exp

[coral wren]

[modern tree]

you still probably dont need more than 2 because thats already 2 guns extra per fleet if the stats are all there is

[finite valve]

so you basically wasting oil for the bp

[modern tree]

wasting oil for a gun that is double bofors dps with more range

WASTING

pfff

[zenith tundra]

https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_201902/28/foQ5-jkxwK1uT3cSno-b5.png

was posted in help by a mod so i guess correct one

[coral wren]

thats if theyre all 2 hit though

do they all hit twice

i heard it was only the new one that hits twice

[modern tree]

whats going on

[maiden agate]

idk it seems like messed up code to me

Hazemeyer being a worse Staag makes more sense

[coral wren]

i saw the old version of that table

and all the other aa had 1 in the hit column except new aa which had 2

now theyre all at 2 for some reason

[finite valve]

maybe it is a dps calculator

[coral wren]

they might have just entered the hits wrong i dunno

[finite valve]

on further back reading on the event

[coral wren]

if anyone knows if current AA hits once or twice then that would be helpful

[finite valve]

you get 1 whole bofor by getting the reward at each point mark

[gray heron]

might be bugged item or wrong list

[finite valve]

so you need to farm for a 2 one

does the gun even have a line saying it hit 2 times?

or it is data mine?

[coral wren]

i dunno i think it was mine

[finite valve]

welp

gl trying to test that

[coral wren]

ok someone in help said that thats right

i guess all aa either hit once or twice

[finite valve]

i don't see the ppl in JP really care much about this gun

[coral wren]

including the new one

yeah its garbage

[finite valve]

most are so so with the new gun

lel

[coral wren]

worse than current aa

[modern tree]

its good for reload tuning because 30 range and really highe base rof

[coral wren]

yeah

its for like tuning your aa

[finite valve]

good but not really an excalibur for CV

[coral wren]

which idc about so i wont be farming this trash

[finite valve]

so mountain out of a mole hill

LMFAO

welp guess CV get to live another day

sad

[modern tree]

if AA in this game was not such a mess then nobody would be making mistakes like this prolly

[finite valve]

well crisis everted

[coral wren]

yeah aa in this game has a super high skill cap

that nobody knows about pretty much

[finite valve]

everybody goes back to raising their CV for pvp

end of story

happy ending?

[leaden sequoia]

... for now

[finite valve]

hey some ppl in the JP general is skipping the event

just to show the new AA is just meh at best

[split socket]

that new AA gun is not drop only

theres a coop event, kinda like raid boss event that gives out bp for the gun

[modern tree]

Dork deals some silly damage with QE buff in pvp

Timings on her debuffs are also really good. You hit the vg with bonus damage, then QE shells them for bonus damage, then you torp them for bonus damage

[finite valve]

the event only give you 20 bp

you need another 5 from server progress

if you want to farm another one then yes it is drop

no the other 5 you get from server progression

if you want another then need to farm for it

[split socket]

20 bp from event rewards, and the 5 bp is from 25% phase

I doubt there are servers that can't reach that

[finite valve]

except avrora

since we kindda competitive

lel

[leaden sequoia]

so competitive that it goes into "if I can't have it, no one can have it" territory?

lol

[split socket]

that event is pretty much either "everyone gets it or no one gets it" though

[finite valve]

isn't it the same as newcastle?

[split socket]

and it's pretty obvious that they put it at 25% instead of 0% to make sure ppl actually get it

incase some servers actually are trash enough and can't finish the boss kappa

[finite valve]

either everyone in the server get it or no one

[solar pike]

Akaga damage with Sirius

It’s so stronk

[leaden sequoia]

does Kaga beat Akagi even with BiS gear?

[split socket]

looks pretty spread out actually haha

[leaden sequoia]

tho it may have to do with positioning too

[solar pike]

I think kaga has higher stats?

[gray heron]

that siriu damage is way lower than i thought it would

[leaden sequoia]

Kaga has better torpbombers

[gray heron]

i take it she is not highly levelled just mlb

[leaden sequoia]

Akagi has rounded eff for all planes

[solar pike]

She’s not maxed yet askar

Need to finish her red skill and get 100

[gray heron]

i am really feeling her in boss kill fleet and pvp too so i was worried for a sec before realising that

[solar pike]

Kaga consistently beats my akagi so I guess?

[leaden sequoia]

same reload and AA, Akagi has 2 more aviation even

[solar pike]

Idk why just happens

[leaden sequoia]

ahh, barracuda kamikaze damage

of course

[solar pike]

Initial impressions is that once my Sirius is maxed stats and all skills she will be a monster for me in pvp

Her addition is very noticeable by my akaga dmg

[modern tree]

second screenshot looks super staged tbh, the other fleet barely touched you and Amagi fired like once

[leaden sequoia]

wait, kamikaze damage formula doesn't include slot efficiency

[modern tree]

might just be people you are fighting

[split socket]

sirius already outperformed my previous comp (bel aya jin) at around lv90 & yellow skill at 9 when I replaced aya with her

[solar pike]

First was a mirror but he didn’t have Sirius, second was HMS

Even against Belfast I win consistently

Second ss was more because someonne asked if kaga did more dmg than akagi though

[modern tree]

another thing is that running Jintsuu with 2 boats that have hardly any torps is weird

but maybe she is just that good

[solar pike]

My jintsuu does a lot of damage herself

Idk I personally just find jintsuu irreplaceable

[modern tree]

my belfast sometimes steals mvp from HMS backline, hitting torps on backliners does it, nothing else, really

[solar pike]

It’s probably preference

[hot creek]

my Sirius/Benson are 100 affinity but only lvl 87. Now the question is do I continue power leveling them and feel bad for capping their affinity or stick em in dorm/commisions and wait a week. OR whale out and buy rings and continue powerlevel without feeling bad 🤔

[split socket]

generally, I tell ppl that if they have to ask other ppl whether to ring a ship or not

they probably shouldn't :p

[modern tree]

ring on Benson sounds very commital for a meme

unless you have other motivation, of course

[solar pike]

I personally just oath as soon as I can for ships I like a lot so the affinity doesn’t feel wasted while I lvl them to 100

[hot creek]

well I kind of like her but at the same time...fuck her for taking so long to drop.

[solar pike]

But atm amagi is my only 200 affinity ship

Rest are at 150-160 area

[split socket]

won't be a problem once lvl cap increases 😄

[solar pike]

Tru

[modern tree]

I was going to say something but it will sound too much like flexing so I will stop on y'all are weirdos

[split socket]

u never manage to flex well enough anyway

[hot creek]

if I were to guess, probably something about having money to buy rings without second thought

[modern tree]

I am not bringing my wallet into it. I am sure there is a reason you are not playing with the ship you ringed. I just dont get it, personally

[split socket]

personally I max out their affection before moving onto other ships, although if one were to play the most optimal way, it'd be to wait for lvl cap to raise

but fk that, I want to have fun too :x

[modern tree]

I avoid oathing shit that I dont care to play, or just plainly dont care about, so my oaths end up all maxed pretty quickly

[real notch]

i only oath the top meta ships

[split socket]

I can't bring myself to oath ships i don't like

u oathed sandy xD?

[real notch]

it just so happens the top meta ships are usually cute

[hot creek]

I oath to have sparkly heart fx on secretary

[split socket]

that's yostars plan and it's clearly working

make the meta ships cutest and best looking so everyone throws money at them

xD

[hot creek]

well, clearly not

for poor Vicky

[real notch]

execpt juneau i don't oath her cus i want her to die

[split socket]

some sacrifices has to be made

poor jun

everyone wants her to die

[modern tree]

I have like all of the meta backliners oathed, but every single one sans sodak has been really good for me in pve. Sides to that I am pretty sure I am one of the very few people on EN that has 200 affection Vampire and other oddball shit so w/e

[split socket]

if ur offense, u hope that she dies instantly, if ur defense, u hope she dies, just sliiiightly dragged out death

my jun is at 50 affinity, maxed lvl and skills

most pointless ship I've ever raised lul

to this day I've still not fielded her once anywhere

[real notch]

most painful ship for me to raise was aurora

i remember spamming B3 for days in the event

roon gave me a pretty good fleet for D3 farming

it's pretty sweet

i can even farm dork while mobbin

[split socket]

I still don't understand what the fp does for vestal

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/CTarB/b6bf434d7f.png I think its time to make her permanent resident of second floor.

[real notch]

come on ur name is phoenix

why is she not resting in a comfortable house

[hot creek]

well, by the time I remember grind ships should be in second floor, im already too deep into farming and this happens lul

time to take a break

[split socket]

but hyuuga isn't cat owo

[real notch]

is she a dog

[split socket]

or is she

🤔

[real notch]

a fox?

no wait

she licks her paws

she's probably a dog

cats do that too eh

[leaden sequoia]

with her personality and triangle cat-shaped ears I'd call hear a tiger

[real notch]

i'm going with dog, cats just don't act like her

[leaden sequoia]

well, Ise is a full-blown fox, so the game lore agrees more with you than with me 🤔

[split socket]

I feel like she looks more like a dog or even wolf pre retrofit

but turns into cat after retro

kinda fits the theme of BB -> BBV

[leaden sequoia]

Ise looks like a fox both before and after, so dunno

[split socket]

I meant hyuuga

xo

[wind orbit]

Pretty sure Hyuuga is a Japanese fox

[leaden sequoia]

then again sisters don't have to look like the same animal

@split socket I meant the connection between sisters can imply some details not evident from the artwork

[split socket]

someone should ask the original artist haha xD

hyuugaisadopted

[wind orbit]

What's this?

[split socket]

looks like a wolf to me

[leaden sequoia]

colors are kitsune-like to me

so fox after all?

[split socket]

white and red are kinda a thing in jp tho

🤔

[leaden sequoia]

:bigthonk:

white and red = what Belfast means in her MVP line

I always imagine the stain she mentions is blood for some reason

[split socket]

u sure ur not imagining something white

[leaden sequoia]

she says kitchen, blood seems more fitting than something white...

:bigthonk:

[split socket]

not in my kitchen

[vague token]

time to blast through 10 matches whee

that feeling when torp rng kills top amagi after her first shot non-ijn boost

and done, get ya +1

[coral wren]

if i use 10 ill take like 3 -1s

i really want to sleep tonight though

how much is a -2?

35 points ahead?

yeah i cant even finish them

im already 1

[shy hazel]

[coral wren]

gotta wait another 2 hours to even be able to finish them so i can sleep

[split socket]

just set an alarm clock owo

[coral wren]

id rather lose 2 attempts than wake up early

[split socket]

if u sleep now, u can almost get 8h sleep

[vague token]

sleep is superior to points

xD

[split socket]

before reset

[coral wren]

ill just wait to sleep after 2

and hope that new opponents gives me the people who rush

[split socket]

[coral wren]

thing is i dont wanna wake up before 8am

[vague token]

wait a minute, you can scroll the core data shop

there's more stuff down there!

ive been bamboozled

now i want the CA gun

[shy hazel]

atago gun

[vague token]

i mean, it's the best ca gun we have besides eugen gun xD

[ionic magnet]

is eugen gun even the best previously

i was using 203 mounted

[vague token]

203 is a loss against cl/dd torps

err eugen

cause of movespeed it's hard to use piercing anyways

[ionic magnet]

agreed

[shy hazel]

pvp doesnt feel different at all

amagi doesnt fire as fast as expected

[ionic magnet]

still helps against peeps who are not using 381

[vague token]

i prefer the 381 on hood

because you get the reload buff sooner

which affects the other 2

but i dont use amakaga xD

lol

[ionic magnet]

whats desron?

[vague token]

suicide torp squad

no belfast for bulk

just rng murder

[ionic magnet]

oh but why desron

[vague token]

dunno, that's the term that's been going around for a bit

might have been the person?

[ionic magnet]

i see.

[vague token]

or like

destroyer something

ah

[ionic magnet]

ok that makes more sense

[split socket]

sounds lame

[vague token]

if i see that squad that's when i toss out leander

belfast is definitely more reliable on defense

cause she has good all rounder stats anyways

and sometimes she refuses to die

xD

[shy hazel]

desron

who even invented that term

shit taste

[vague token]

lets just get 110 so we can go away from desron heh

oh sorry my CA bias is showing ;)

[ionic magnet]

yes yes so i can finally use black heart.. or not

[vague token]

lol i wish

doesnt even break 200 AA at 120

what a meme

[coral wren]

hiryuu is so annoying

no wonder they use her in jp/cn

she is just a troll boat

rolls new opponents and gets 2 out of 10

i can sleep

[vague token]

woo sleep!

[shy hazel]

[odd schooner]

So how's sirius on your end

And Sirius def

[ionic magnet]

mines still lv 91

[zenith tundra]

my sirius is only lvl 88

[odd schooner]

I few more days eh

[vague token]

w h o a, you guys get a lot of attacks in xD

[hot creek]

mines 86 with 100 affinity and maxed yellow skill

I would continue powerleveling but I can't decide if I want to oath her or not

I probably will end up oathing her because I like her plot

[vague token]

plot

i see

[ionic magnet]

thats no brainer

auto oath

[vague token]

once sirius, sheffield, and jamaica are 100, ill toss fiji into the dorm

[zenith tundra]

time to try this

[vague token]

oh boi

[ionic magnet]

that was fast

[vague token]

cant use 3 light cruisers in hard mode

reee

[zenith tundra]

mi skills on doy are bad tho

[vague token]

how am i gonna level all these cls

xD

[zenith tundra]

trying against this foe now

1st result hood and doy vs amagi

[vague token]

nice

[zenith tundra]

i wish it had jintsuu

no hood barrages

1min lol

stupid aya unkillable with bb shoots

[hybrid tendon]

Hiryuu is a safety net

You can always reset

Having her

[vague token]

do you even need QE? xD

[zenith tundra]

switching to this

and...

...

[ionic magnet]

conclusion: aurora overrated

[hot creek]

lately ive been heading towards that conclusion myself.

people are finally starting to realize Juneau on defense is cancer

[modern tree]

Lot's of the fights against foxes are decided by how much damage you take from opening torps if you play HMS. It's a moderately unfun way to play

[zenith tundra]

i'm still missing any level on doy barrage

i'll try again when i max her out

[modern tree]

The barrage is unlikely to change much tbh. The main draw is 410 making your qe gun and second round of torps hurt a lot

[ionic magnet]

yes ive realized that a long time ago. my toughest fights always has juneau and no aurora

[zenith tundra]

aurora is overrated against non damaging vg like juneau and leander

[modern tree]

It might be a long shot but what if Sheff is just better against torps

[zenith tundra]

i haven't seen a juneau stopping jintsuu

also most juneau on def against amakaga are dead before the 2nd torp wave

[modern tree]

That's the perfect time for her to sink tho

[ionic magnet]

hence healing foxes at the perfect time

[modern tree]

After the first strike

[ionic magnet]

yea

[zenith tundra]

my sheff is lvl 74 guess i'll try to level her up more

[modern tree]

Not sure how much merit it has. Might make your vg just hang out there while your main fleet sinks

[zenith tundra]

gonna give this a try against that second comp

i need to put hood on foxes too

[pearl nimbus]

I have an idea for a comp:

Amagi+Enty+DoY with Helena+Juneanu+Belfast

idk if it'd work out too well

Buuuuut.....damage amp.

Maybe even swap out Jun for something more aggro

[ionic magnet]

60% of the time it can work

[zenith tundra]

i won't try enty myself

[pearl nimbus]

well imma try it once my DoY is levelled

Doesn't sound awful

[zenith tundra]

flagship always dead...

[vague token]

none of those ships

have good aa

flag is going to soak all the suicide damage

[zenith tundra]

hood has good aa

[vague token]

i thought hood had OK aa

not good aa

[ionic magnet]

hood should survive

maybe just unlucky torps

[zenith tundra]

compare to doy and amagi her aa is twice

[vague token]

oh well yeah

but dont forget hood comes with BIG HP

xD

and medium armor during meta of torps and bombs

so she wont die as fast as amagi nor dork

hood center just doesnt cleave anything

[ionic magnet]

but youre winning anyway so who cares

[zenith tundra]

i win by vg and lose

[vague token]

oof

[ionic magnet]

jesus didnt die kek

[zenith tundra]

torp meta back

1st try got screwed by smore rng

this is 2nd one

rng comp

for sure

[pearl nimbus]

Try Aurora over Jun.

See how that goes.

[modern tree]

The problem with this comp looks to be that you want everyone to shoot faster than Dork cuz barrages and she ends up doing nothing

Also AA

[zenith tundra]

and my problem is how do u even sync hood and amagi with doy

[odd schooner]

Man, if only sirius gem skin keeps her sword

[zenith tundra]

u have to give up 381 on hood or amagi

[odd schooner]

[vague token]

you shoot sooo fast

that your next shot comes back for doy's first shot

;)

autoloader hood fcr time

[ivory vine]

give doy the quad

[zenith tundra]

triple 410 with hsfcr on doy

[vague token]

put the 381 on doy

actually id probably just do 406 amagi and doy, 381 hood for buffing

amagi and doy should be close-ish

[zenith tundra]

anything in mid but hood is dead

[shy hazel]

why u making yourself suffer

[zenith tundra]

no point in trying sniping amagi

[vague token]

xD

[zenith tundra]

also aurora seems to kill enemy vgs

[odd schooner]

He's trying new stuff before reset

[pearl nimbus]

Yeah, Aurora is neato.

[zenith tundra]

no one in my list give me anything as bonus so who cares

i wish doy wouldn't shoot at vgs tbh

i think the problem is getting doy to shoot something u want to kill like a fox

[odd schooner]

Her 100% guaranteed shell is unreliable

[zenith tundra]

it's really hard to get anything out of her debuff before vg dead

interesting how amakaga just 100% wins the battle... while i struggle with anything else

[vague token]

i mean, when the game is a damage race

the first strike wins assuming most comps do similar damage

[zenith tundra]

for now i think cv are too op

[vague token]

is it really cvs, or just akaga

lol

or rather amakaga

[zenith tundra]

akaga real thing is fast takeoff

[vague token]

belfast smoke just doesnt compare to operation rainbow

and the average damage boost of lucky e is about 70% anyways over time

same as the 35+35 from akaga

[zenith tundra]

the touchdown dmg is just insane for akaga

[vague token]

easiest solution is to just boost hp more

xD

first strike doesnt matter as much when everyone has 10k hp