pvp

[azure aurora]

[shy hazel]

on some official illustrations kalk actually looks bigger than nagato

[coral wren]

Ijn is already a top faction by the number of ridiculous ships

Just make their next ships garbage

Just for once

[zenith tundra]

rank 50 with 5/10

wtf

[coral wren]

You want clones of washington?

[modern tree]

I just had my opponent sink to a fire, what

Is the damage that wash shares with sodak lethal?

[leaden sequoia]

PR Izumo is garbage-tier from what I see in CN/JP tierlists and discussions

[coral wren]

Is she?

[modern tree]

It's one more fire tick

[coral wren]

In pve she placed as top 0

[modern tree]

Lot's of the cn tls have bizarre criteria for ranking ships like "how worthy of an investment this boat is relative to their power" so hey, maybe she's worth it just because cn super over values barrages

[shy hazel]

izumo looks ugly too

i dont understand the aesthetics of ppl liking horned stuff

[coral wren]

Well, at least you can tell it’s horns. With mogami it looks like she has a dick on her forehead

[leaden sequoia]

thank you, now I can't unsee a dildo on Mogami's forehead anymore

[coral wren]

[shy hazel]

everytime i see horns like that i remember that one

person who did horn implants

😂

[vague token]

wat

[leaden sequoia]

there are different kinds of horns tho

[shy hazel]

[leaden sequoia]

e.g. horns on Mikasa and Hiei look great

[coral wren]

those are albedo like horns

[leaden sequoia]

tho one would argue they look like fake horns

[coral wren]

they are ok

[shy hazel]

im gonna fucking call an exorcist if i saw something like that irl

[vague token]

to be fair, mikasa and hiei look great anyways lol

[shy hazel]

[coral wren]

ye, probably because they look like fake horns/decorative element

[shy hazel]

i hate horns like izumos

especially

[coral wren]

I wonder if there anyone who likes her personality either

[zenith tundra]

rank 61 after reset with 5/10. people stopped playing pvp for real

[leaden sequoia]

what is her tl;dr personality?

listened to few voice tracks and she sounds kinda haughty...?

[coral wren]

Apathetic cold woman who kinda rejects her feminine side. I'd say she is a worse version of Hyuuga.

[leaden sequoia]

not interested in anything, I mean

hmm

[coral wren]

But hey, she is one of those rare boats who is suit to be a soldier in a war

[ionic magnet]

yea all exp gone

👀

fixed they say

[elder crane]

Ikr, I'm kinda mad about how long they let that drag out

Baited me into actually trying to bank XP

[leaden sequoia]

welp, fuck me and my Yama/Amagi/Phoenix/Ayaya's exp

[elder crane]

Yeeeep

Time to rebuild my teams

[vague token]

oh i need to do 10 fights again

before sleep

[elder crane]

The ships I hard banked on were all already 200 aff

Amagi ended up with the most, at 2 mil b4 the wipe

[drifting shadow]

What noooo

[zenith tundra]

does it work now? or u cant stock exp

[elder crane]

All stocked XP on ships has been wiped it seems

[zenith tundra]

can u stock tho? i cant play since im at work

[elder crane]

Not any longer, it seems

[zenith tundra]

well time to low cost

[vague token]

they're probably trying to force it so that no one jumps to 105

when it pops up

or 110

so everyone has to grind/play the same on release

[livid fractal]

Catching up to jp/cn they say..

[coral wren]

I like how some discord monkeys were trying to blame those who cried for sirius to be released on en, when in letter they said they planned it long ago to do things that way

[zenith tundra]

they fucked up a patch and put working stock exp. took them 3 patches to fix it and now people who though it was intended got fucked

[shy hazel]

#game-feedback

check out restart chans answer

i did farm lvl100s much

[zenith tundra]

i dont give a damn shit about their excuse to fix a bug 3 patches later

[shy hazel]

at least

damages have already been made

they just ninja fixed it like its air

[zenith tundra]

u need to many units to break lvl so dont expect much

[lament lichen]

did they even fix amagi's barrage

[vague token]

no lol, or at least it wasnt in notes

[hybrid tendon]

well without accumulation

reaching 110 on first day

is impossible

I M P O S S I B L E

unless you are buying oil and running the game for 24 hours straight

[coral wren]

I stopped questioning things on en long ago, recent event just showed that if not for a language barrier, ppl would just play on jp and not bother with en

[hybrid tendon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

play a game and not understand literally anything

sure mate

SURE

understand what the botes are saying

is like 50% of the enjoyment I get

outta this game

[coral wren]

if not for a language barrier

[leaden sequoia]

well, some people would've made something akin to KCV for kancolle if EN didn't exist

[hybrid tendon]

also why jp anyway

playing jp just to catch up with the top?

nope

[leaden sequoia]

I think that isn't the point

I understood his statement as "EN too buggy"

[hybrid tendon]

havent seen any bug that is detrimental to the experience

accumulation is just some number popping up

¯_(ツ)_/¯

they didnt even announce it

real BUGS would prevent you from playing the game

or some shit

[leaden sequoia]

I mean, yeah, assuming things just because of how the situation looks like from the outside often leads to sad results

[coral wren]

I think it all started with kms event

[hybrid tendon]

its not as buggy as you made it tobe

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[coral wren]

Like, there was some issue with rerun version of it

and since then

it looks like they don't know what are they doing

[leaden sequoia]

if we're going technical, I would call this kind of bug a "user experience bug" that does not necessarily break the game, but betrays user's expectations based on surface info

[hybrid tendon]

well its about the rerun/original decision

[leaden sequoia]

this is a very touchy subject tho

[shy hazel]

??

[hybrid tendon]

they want us to catch up, probably

[shy hazel]

maybe u but not me

i was affected

[hybrid tendon]

but if we are to catch up

[split socket]

they need to do more testing but saying they don't know what they are doing is a bit of a stretch really.

[shy hazel]

by this bug

expecting exp to be stored

[hybrid tendon]

some reruns would have to be skipped

[shy hazel]

o used 100

[leaden sequoia]

since expectations based on unverified information and actual results from that are a grey area

[shy hazel]

when i could have

leveled

non100s

[hybrid tendon]

ye

same here

[shy hazel]

wasted exp there yo

[hybrid tendon]

but we expected something on unconfirmed info

[shy hazel]

yet at the,same time they never denied it

it came

[hybrid tendon]

its like your friend told you that there is a sale on mc donald

[shy hazel]

the bug came when intern

made that long ass

[drifting shadow]

I am quite disappointed with the exp storage but I think there should be other people that is more affected than me

[shy hazel]

explanation

[hybrid tendon]

and you come there demanding a sale

[shy hazel]

that 110 is coming

why wont i expect

[hybrid tendon]

I'm surprised they did give us sirius

like reallly

[shy hazel]

sirius can go to the trash can

🚮

[hybrid tendon]

no u

[shy hazel]

i need my 110

not a shit ship

[drifting shadow]

Still typo, reallly <- 3 'l' lol

[hybrid tendon]

shut up

[shy hazel]

[hybrid tendon]

[leaden sequoia]

[hybrid tendon]

well time to switch in some ships I guess

since they nuked it

[leaden sequoia]

I have auditorium running for scrubs, so I plan to run lvl 100 ships 50% of the time now

or just mix lvl 100 with lvl non-100 together

[hybrid tendon]

because some time the other plebs ship just cant cut it

you need the skills leveled up as well

for damage

[shy hazel]

the first thing we 100 are good ships

[hybrid tendon]

but red books are a limited resource

[shy hazel]

[hybrid tendon]

ye

wash hood amagi

and the like

this event give books

but its not enough

NEVER enough

what do you think would be the next event

🤔

[shy hazel]

.ofc

cya will 110 poi first

[coral wren]

portland?

[leaden sequoia]

just play the game on mute

[zenith tundra]

well get 105 max for a while then 110. it takes 2 weeks to farm enough mental units for sr ships for lvl 110

[shy hazel]

aa usual

ill prioritize ships tyat are good in pve and pvp

jint amagi

[leaden sequoia]

from major events Mikasa event then?

and then Nagato event

and then JB event

[zenith tundra]

hood can go trash herself to the bin why waste materials on her when i have amagi and doy

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

no buli hood oi

[shy hazel]

hood is 🚮 now

[zenith tundra]

shes not better then amagi or doy

[leaden sequoia]

I mean, I always called 100 -> 105 etc. "mind breaks"

[zenith tundra]

it should be 3/3 like others

[ionic magnet]

oh i could get hood gun later

[shy hazel]

thrice a week

[zenith tundra]

every day

[shy hazel]

[hybrid tendon]

the thing is RELOAD buffs is the best type of buff

[shy hazel]

not that bad then

[drifting shadow]

Can someone try the new 381mm gun? I didn't have the plates to enhance it to +10 >.<

[coral wren]

381 gun or save for shell... 🤔

[hybrid tendon]

its 2s faster than the 410

[zenith tundra]

i need to eat 1st then get weapon

[vague token]

using the 381 means i wont have to use an autoloader

on hood

to confirm a ko before second air strike

[drifting shadow]

I dunno whether to trade damage for faster firing rate

[leaden sequoia]

2s is significant

[clear cloud]

should i get hood gun or wait for 818

[leaden sequoia]

that's 1/5 of her halved reload

[zenith tundra]

pvp speed is everything

[hybrid tendon]

barrage boats usually deal shit damage anyway

so

take speed

[leaden sequoia]

wait

[shy hazel]

pls

[leaden sequoia]

does frontline spawn point random or fixed?

[shy hazel]

dildo still the best

[drifting shadow]

Lol

[hybrid tendon]

amagi with 381 + gold tower + 3rd skill

[drifting shadow]

Okay sure

[hybrid tendon]

SUPER FAST

👏

[vague token]

https://gyazo.com/3d1af96846ded7db4b0bc9d856e78170

it's beautiful

[drifting shadow]

Okay farming purple plate first then

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

i had just enough plates =D

[leaden sequoia]

golden broom

[hybrid tendon]

golden wind

[shy hazel]

rainbow dildo

[zenith tundra]

im wodering if amagi can go before enty

[vague token]

time to do my 10 matches ;)

[shy hazel]

why ten

go sandbag

[vague token]

if i dont

[shy hazel]

like a scumbag

[vague token]

ill sleep and then work

through reset

[coral wren]

Yeah, fuck it, since Monarch is still using 381 then 381 it is

[vague token]

plus i already sleepy lost 3 matches a couple days ago

[zenith tundra]

play at work

[vague token]

lol

[zenith tundra]

who cares about work

[shy hazel]

quit your job

[hybrid tendon]

I'm playing at work

RN

[vague token]

but my job lets me buy from

[leaden sequoia]

people use restroom to do their PvP attempts

[zenith tundra]

im in lunch break

[coral wren]

@balmy torrent wat lvl is your doy at?

[shy hazel]

i play in front of my boss

because he also plays another game

[hybrid tendon]

running my level 55 DOY

in d3

[zenith tundra]

lol

[leaden sequoia]

best kind of boss

I guess

[shy hazel]

if i get reported

i report him too

😂

[vague token]

lol

[leaden sequoia]

if there are security cameras where you work, neither of you will need to report at all

[vague token]

my fleet power went up because i tossed the autoloader out

oh boi

[shy hazel]

[leaden sequoia]

replaced it with some gold equip 🤔

[shy hazel]

but where are my Ｄａｍｎ

white shells

[vague token]

i put radar

xD

[leaden sequoia]

ABSOLUTE HERESY

cough

sorry, my fingers moved by themselves

anyway, on to phase 3 now

[shy hazel]

feels alot

more

lazier

to do event now

no stored exp

i guess i grind ships at c1

[leaden sequoia]

I agree

that's why I don't roll gacha right away and grind points first

so that I have a motivation to clear all the gacha shop

[ivory vine]

i was grinding d3 with no regard for stored xp

[zenith tundra]

i already had 1mil xp on amagi but was still using her

[ivory vine]

idk how much xp i had

cuz i never looked

[leaden sequoia]

at least 6 digits if you farmed a decent amount of times with her

cause she easily takes MVP with barrage

[zenith tundra]

lvl 95 doy already carring my fleet in 6-1 hm

[ivory vine]

i didnt use amagi for mob fleet

[azure aurora]

Lv 95 DoY can carry your team in D3

[zenith tundra]

lol

[ivory vine]

most xp would either be on minne/port/hyuuga

possibly unicorn

i swapped fleet setup a decent amount

[zenith tundra]

amagi was highest for me

[coral wren]

phoenix also might be the one

[leaden sequoia]

fuck, I need Hyuuga

[ivory vine]

phoenix could be

[coral wren]

She was the queen of 10-4

[leaden sequoia]

currently only Yama and Penny as the BB farming workhorses

tho Fusou is coming at lvl 75 now

[ivory vine]

yama is prob better than hyuuga solo anyway

assuming half kai

[leaden sequoia]

yeah, YamaHK vs Hyuuga Kai

[ivory vine]

hyuuga doesnt have kai yet tho

[leaden sequoia]

hmmm

so Hyuuga Kai > YamaHK > Hyuuga?

because of a barrage from Hyuuga retro

[ivory vine]

i didnt do the math on it

but yamahk should do more than hyuuga non kai for sure

as a solo backline anyway

[zenith tundra]

gold amagi

[drifting shadow]

[shy hazel]

sooo

[leaden sequoia]

damn, just realised how SSR ships' pages with all gold equips look so shiny

[shy hazel]

what is a good lvl to grind d3

[leaden sequoia]

100

[vague token]

how much oil

[shy hazel]

i got doy at 60

[vague token]

lol

[shy hazel]

sirius at 80

[vague token]

if you get CL siren

or CA siren

front might die

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

cause they have high hit

[leaden sequoia]

CL siren fires AP shells, so beware CAs
CA siren fires HE shells, so beware DDs

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

on auto sometimes vanguard likes to sit in the crossed shots

that they have active

[shy hazel]

truth to be told im still at d2

got doy as drop

very early

lul

[leaden sequoia]

at b3?

[vague token]

i had trouble doing amagi/unicorn/minne/leander before danger max on d3

[shy hazel]

yup

[vague token]

on auto

sometimes they just sat in the beams

and then you die

at max danger it's impossible to die now

[shy hazel]

guess no choice but to manual

until max danger

[vague token]

but also i was skimping with minimum stats

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

so

there's that too

xD

1500 torp reee

[shy hazel]

when u skimping too much

and put oxytorp on cvs

[coral wren]

Uhm why is btd destroter not as good as sb2c?

[livid fractal]

I feel lazy farming all a sudden

[vague token]

bombs

[livid fractal]

[vague token]

sb2c has the glorious 2k

GLORIOUS

[coral wren]

It has 2x 1600 tho

[leaden sequoia]

2 bombs provide worse area coverage than 3 bombs

[shy hazel]

simply speaking

bad game design

[vague token]

kek

[leaden sequoia]

500lb bombs and heavier have nearly identical damage

[vague token]

i should try the stuka again

in pvp

for kicks

[shy hazel]

when will we get gold sb2c

[leaden sequoia]

but increase their damage radius

gold sb2c
inb4 literal nuke

[coral wren]

Alright ty

Passive skill. Forces ijn nodes to surrendee

[leaden sequoia]

cannot be triggered on event maps with sirens then

[coral wren]

Barracuda is better than tenzans? Dosnt have ryuusei

[shy hazel]

cuda is life

[leaden sequoia]

in pve mob fleet and pvp --- sure

in pve boss fleet debatable

[shy hazel]

jap torp bomber

is for backline in pvp

is it

[coral wren]

Hows lackburn firebrand.

[shy hazel]

2nd to cuda

[coral wren]

Was thinking to make them send out airstrikes at alightly differnt timing

[shy hazel]

foxes?

[coral wren]

Or was it only aomething for bbs

Foxes yea

[shy hazel]

u can do alot of more diff things

to set timings

[coral wren]

we've got compensation

[shy hazel]

[leaden sequoia]

I wouldn't recommend sending CVs at different times because AA guns have a chance to reload and shoot down more planes

if the timings don't fall under CV choke, ofc

[shy hazel]

1k on ea

oil gold

ye

[coral wren]

Also whoz the better girl? Akagi or kaga

[leaden sequoia]

Kaga

[coral wren]

At dealing dmg

[leaden sequoia]

hmmm

[coral wren]

I have a vf 17 and a hellcat. Dunno to put on who.

[shy hazel]

both of them are 🚮

kc kaga is cuter

[coral wren]

Vf17 sends out faster so more likely to get shot dosn

Down

[leaden sequoia]

Kaga is torpbomber-specialized, and torps hit backline less often than bombs, so Akagi should do a little more damage

[coral wren]

Oke ty

[shy hazel]

hey

our planes are better

having vf17 is early player privilege

[leaden sequoia]

hory shiet, 6 bananas

[shy hazel]

i have 3

[leaden sequoia]

I don't have enough gold bananas, so Akagi took a purple one

[shy hazel]

[leaden sequoia]

but now I have Torch/Firebrand

[shy hazel]

buy more boxes

[leaden sequoia]

I did

[coral wren]

share is care

gimme gimme

[shy hazel]

trade system where

[willow storm]

This person is beyond saving

also this happened

laffey hit level 100

[shy hazel]

what to say

nice team you got there

👍

[willow storm]

eh

its not that good

i could probably replace Penny with someone

[shy hazel]

do u have amagi

[willow storm]

nah, sadly

started after her event

[shy hazel]

hood then

[willow storm]

and i dont have hood or enty either

[shy hazel]

in that case

only one choice left

[willow storm]

hm?

[shy hazel]

if u wan to pvp for a long time

and aim for highest rank

u need bun

[willow storm]

i mean, i just want the merit to get the 2 items from the shop

Bun?

whos that

[shy hazel]

hiryuu

[willow storm]

hmmm

i think i have her

[shy hazel]

not like he has a choice rn

sad to say

at least u have foxes

in a month

but everything else needs to be replaced

sadly

[willow storm]

even laffey?

[shy hazel]

yup

[willow storm]

oof

[shy hazel]

u can use laffey tempo

the easiest ships u can get for pvp but is god

juneau

[willow storm]

i can send you pictures of my dock if that gives you a better idea of what i have

[shy hazel]

and aya

[willow storm]

yeah, i have her but shes low level

[shy hazel]

and belfast

[willow storm]

dont have her sadly

[shy hazel]

just get those three

[willow storm]

but i have leander so

thats something ig

[shy hazel]

if u got extra cubes

do light build

[willow storm]

i have 28 rn

[shy hazel]

after u get all event shios

[willow storm]

but i can feel the sandy spooks

and yeah, ive got the event ships

welp, i'll do a 10 pull on light

hopefully i dont get spooked

[ionic magnet]

just do the event and get doy 👌

[willow storm]

yeah, ive got her

[shy hazel]

doy huh

[ionic magnet]

oh nice

[willow storm]

shes level 59 rn

but i dont have a lot of good gear

[shy hazel]

she,doesnt rly fit flagship

tbh

[azure aurora]

Finnaly amagi barrage faster than belfast smoke

[ionic magnet]

well its the best he can get rn so

[azure aurora]

Feel pretty good rn

[willow storm]

welp

i did 2 x 10 and got no SRs

feelsbad

[shy hazel]

if u get aurora

keep her

[willow storm]

yeah, i got her and helena

working on them too

[shy hazel]

poggers

good then

juneau aurora and belfast

[willow storm]

well, i dont have belfast yet

[shy hazel]

yea lol

[azure aurora]

Juneau aurora and Leander then

[willow storm]

i'll dm you some pics of my dock Stella

[shy hazel]

no

put it here

[willow storm]

ah

[shy hazel]

👍

[willow storm]

is there any spam detecting bots here?

since sending 3 pics back to back might trip it off

[shy hazel]

dunno

[shy hazel]

[shy hazel]

oh u bought doy skin

[willow storm]

yeah

i liked it

[shy hazel]

i see potential here

if u gonna go with my suggestion

and use hiryu

u can go with leander juneau and sirius

probably

[willow storm]

hmm

so level up final counter on hiryuu?

[shy hazel]

ya

[willow storm]

so many ships to level up

big oof

[shy hazel]

for now

are your foxes' skills

lvl 10

prioritize that

your world will revolve on that

[willow storm]

hmm

which ones

the one that require them to be togther?

or the other one

which one should i prioritize

[shy hazel]

lvl 10 all skills

lol

[willow storm]

lol ik

but idk which one to do first

[shy hazel]

red furst

are you aware of pvp mechanics

like u can reset unlimited

[willow storm]

true

but i havent really done that

[shy hazel]

do it

everyone resets

[willow storm]

ive just avoided players that i dont think i can beat

[shy hazel]

excluding the super dank fleets

youll probably need 2 season or 1 month

to get a better fleet

to at least compete in fleet admiral

[willow storm]

also, my def is basically my attacking pvp fleet but instead of penny i have warspite there

[shy hazel]

aotn will need more time

you defensive fleet doesnt matter

it will get destroyed anyways

just focus on your attack

let me show you my glorious def fleet

(outdated)

[willow storm]

[shy hazel]

anyways dont bother on def fleet

just focus on your attacking ones

[willow storm]

i'll probably put warspite in my attacking fleet when she hits level 80 or 90

or when she gets her retrofit

[shy hazel]

still so far in the future

dont bother using her

shes terribad rn

[willow storm]

oof

[coral wren]

is there a good hms ca with high dmg?

suffolk

Meh...

[finite valve]

using CA in pvp pre 120

yeh ain't worth it

[coral wren]

Was wondering what hms boat could slam dunk enemy vanguard under qe buff, since aurora alone melting them just allright

And durable enough to survive 1st weeb strike

[finite valve]

foxes melt them not aurora

aurora buff affect DD and CL due to their high eva

[coral wren]

I play hms, not foxes tho

[finite valve]

CA got shit for eva

so it is still pretty useless non theless

and you going to be fighting against foxes so it still stand

[coral wren]

I kinda hesitate to use jintsu on offense

[finite valve]

i think most ppl here just use mirror and call it a day

and no my jintsuu ain't got no problem vs aurora

[coral wren]

Eh, probably

Oh w8, you misunderstood, i meant that mine aurora alone is melting enemy vang, not enemy mine 😄 so i needed another hms boat to melt them even harder

[finite valve]

most hms CA are not worth it aside from suffolk kai maybe

[coral wren]

Hm, sirius won't do either..

[finite valve]

if only deus vult exist

lel

[coral wren]

Yeah, that's quite problematic

[finite valve]

using sirius in a no CV zone

[coral wren]

For a second i forgot she uses cvs to buff herself, not hms boats alone 😦

[finite valve]

sirius is too over hype if i say so myself

if her stat line was good then maybe

average stat line that need CV to be worth a dime

not to mention there are better boat / comp for pvp

[solar pike]

Sirius is best used with Akaga fleet

[finite valve]

eh not really

[solar pike]

She is tho

[finite valve]

well belfap is better to cut foxes damage

[solar pike]

the jp/cn pvp meta is literally just nagato, akaga, sirius

[finite valve]

jintsuu stay cus she is jintsuu

you can't also cut aurora due to her debuff

so no

[solar pike]

Thats why you use jintsuu aurora sirius

[finite valve]

i am not going to go full retard just cus of a few dps boost

[solar pike]

Wht lol

[finite valve]

you basically trade belfap damage reduction for a dps boost

so yes my statement is correct

[solar pike]

Whatever works for you my dude

If you want to play defensive just play washy/sdoka

and jesus with pearl

[finite valve]

you want full off front?

use ayaya lel

[solar pike]

Why would you use aya in a meta where aurora exists?

[shy hazel]

wait what

jp meta is lol

only a certain kai

[finite valve]

cus full off front?

[shy hazel]

[finite valve]

also tell that to all the fucking CL we are using

[solar pike]

Sirius is there to buff your already strong Akaga that fires twice 100% of the time

[shy hazel]

chill

jp is now just simply

ws kai meta

with namaga

or anything really

[finite valve]

at the expense of your front also dying due to no damage reduction

i rather play safe then yolo

[shy hazel]

sirius can be good in en

[solar pike]

The nagato fleet is naga, akaga, sirius, ykkz and 1 more i dont remember

[shy hazel]

she can maybe replace aurora

that's already old

actually

sirius isnt even supposed to be there at that meta time

lol

[solar pike]

I mean yeah, but my point is it was a good comp until warspite came along and broke everything

[shy hazel]

nakagi -> namaga -> ws kai + anything

if we get nagato

we skip foxes + sirius meta completely

probably

unless u want u enforce

nagato + foxes

there u can use sirius

i mean in current meta u can actually use sirius

[solar pike]

I like nagato + foxes + sirius personally

[shy hazel]

but she almost works the same as aurora

[finite valve]

so what the final ship for nagaki?

[solar pike]

I get top 3 in pvp every season with this

[shy hazel]

in jp i guess

jp is easier to gensui than en

lol

actually

easier to gensui than Avrora

i wont speak for other servers lul

[solar pike]

i use Amagi, akaga, aurora, jintsuu sirius rn on en

[finite valve]

EN too competitive on the most useless thing

[shy hazel]

you know

[finite valve]

tell me something i dk

[shy hazel]

it isnt really possible

for you to get top 3 in fleets with namaga and sirius in en

when when dont have nagato

and sirius existed just now

maybe u mean amagi with foxes

[solar pike]

I was using belfast before that

I did say amagi + akaga though

[shy hazel]

and well

top ranks is all about sandbagging

lol

[finite valve]

also does sirius buff stay after she dies?

[solar pike]

I don't lose to any comps unless i get unlucky in mirror

[finite valve]

if yes then maybe i will use her

[shy hazel]

they say it stays but you should realize

[finite valve]

if not then nah

[shy hazel]

shes good

until vg gets destroyed

then u can throw her away after

just like aurora

[finite valve]

nadoka when

[solar pike]

I just focus on killing them so fast it doesnt matter

and it works out

[shy hazel]

people will get to test out soon

[solar pike]

and yes Sirius buff does stay when she dies

[shy hazel]

i just lvl 10 my yellow skills for sirius

[solar pike]

My sirius is done besides her red skill

[shy hazel]

i doubt people can say with conviction shes better than aurora for now

lol

[solar pike]

oathed aswell

[finite valve]

not like it matter for off anyway

since you still going to win either way

just shave off like what 10s?

[shy hazel]

no no no no

i doubt it

remember

aurora buffs all ships especially if u have jint

sirius buffs cvs

nobody even knows

if youll get faster time

throwing away

aurora for sirius

unless u mean u run both

[solar pike]

i run both atm

not tried anything else

[finite valve]

tbh if ppl swap sirius for aurora

belfap is going to worth more then she is

[shy hazel]

which mean u throwing away belfast

[finite valve]

and she already worth gold atm

[shy hazel]

i doubt youll throw away jintsu

[solar pike]

if more people start playing akaga

id throw jintsuu for belfast most likely as a try

[finite valve]

that's what i been saying

[solar pike]

first of

[shy hazel]

90% of meta players play akaga

what

lol

[finite valve]

no way in hell iam going to swap either aurora or belfap away

i rather play safe then full yolo

[solar pike]

I still see alot of sdoka + wash + enty

in high ranks

[shy hazel]

oh

are u in like

sandy

nvm then

[solar pike]

avrora

[shy hazel]

srsly

lol

[solar pike]

Yes

[analog hare]

wich backline you guys would prefer if using with DoY (just your thought)

[solar pike]

QE and hood

[shy hazel]

all my opponents are basically amakagas

lul

[finite valve]

still can't decide who to swap out if i even use sirius

[livid fractal]

Yeah probably qe hood

[finite valve]

since aurora and belfap now worth so much compare to normal

[shy hazel]

id always retain aurora + jintsu

[finite valve]

but consider that ppl going to use sirius now

belfap worth even more then before

[solar pike]

Qe, hood, duke is the hms backline until Warspite kai as far as i remembe

[shy hazel]

people will test stuff

some ppl throw away qe

but well

we dont have monarch yet

[solar pike]

You could

[shy hazel]

nor we have centaur

so no choice but to qe

[solar pike]

Yeah iirc hms jp/cn uses monarch, warspite, qe?

[finite valve]

don't we still use QE for hms anyway?

[solar pike]

En does

[finite valve]

it is basically QE + 2 other hms

[solar pike]

Hms has no good pvp carriers in en

[shy hazel]

heh

alot of ppl with waifu bias towards sirius wanna throw away aurora

we'll see the results in pvp soon

[solar pike]

Hmm.. as long as people play 3 lc i will play aurora

[finite valve]

i rather throw away jintsuu if that the case

[solar pike]

or 2 lc 1 dd

[shy hazel]

removing jint means

youll rely all your dmg backline

[solar pike]

I always prefer consistent buffs over rng when it comes to pvp, so jintsuu would most likely be cut for me first

[finite valve]

well that is basically JP old meta isn't it?

[solar pike]

and yeah, my akaga with sirius needs 2 airstrikes to kill vanguard + backline

it does crazy dmg

[shy hazel]

it would make

[finite valve]

minus nadoka

[shy hazel]

aurora basically a little bit

useless

[finite valve]

even better lol

[shy hazel]

err

[solar pike]

Its a trade off

[shy hazel]

lol

[solar pike]

you remove vanguard dmg for backline dmg

[shy hazel]

you should realize

all fleets die at 2 airstrikes at most

even at current fleet

if torp slap hits properly

[finite valve]

unless you can KO front in 1 air strike

[shy hazel]

even 1 strike

lol

[solar pike]

If i see an enemy enty its a free win because she doesnt survive the first airstrike lol

[finite valve]

2 is not really something you should boast about

for EN at least

[solar pike]

I'm just saying its the max i need

[shy hazel]

neko should give commentary

[finite valve]

becuase it is the max everyone need lol

all EN meta comp need at least 2

[solar pike]

It's not really up to me in pvp if i crit or not, most the time akaga blows up their backline instantly with amagi

[coral wren]

I'd like to try amagi with doy and hood

but -15% buff prob gonna wreck vang

[shy hazel]

testing hms will take time

im still leveling up skills

lol

i wont test doy until all skills are lvl 10

[willow storm]

Is portland retro good for PVP?

[shy hazel]

shes good at stallking

stalling

but not exactly

meta

[finite valve]

i still can't see doy really have much of an impact on pvp

[azure aurora]

Not for now

[shy hazel]

for now

[willow storm]

i mean, she can slow down high speed ships

[finite valve]

heck i even say that hms still failed vs wasd enty

[shy hazel]

the more interesting question is

can sirius replace aurora or jint

lol

[willow storm]

what is wasd? 🤔

[finite valve]

i vote for jintsuu

[shy hazel]

washington south dakota

[willow storm]

ah

[azure aurora]

I using sirius aurora jint

[shy hazel]

i mean if u ask me

i wont replace my meta fleet

lol

[solar pike]

Same lansk

[shy hazel]

bel jint aurora

[finite valve]

belfap is too valuable to not use vs a CV meta

especially with a sirius buffing them CV

[solar pike]

I dont need to use belfast, i have 200 affinity on backline so i win mirror instantly

[finite valve]

you win cus of the 20% buff on off lol

[azure aurora]

Win still win

[finite valve]

my comp still win

[shy hazel]

well anyways

[willow storm]

also, if i use sirius in pvp, would akaga +lusty be a good main fleet combo?

[azure aurora]

Since sirius appear my % vs amakaga is better

[solar pike]

Not lusty

[shy hazel]

if u can win properly why not

[finite valve]

any meta comp on off will always win

[solar pike]

Shes too slow

[shy hazel]

nope

lusty is shit

[finite valve]

so this line of discussion is stupid

[shy hazel]

[solar pike]

If you really want to use 3 cv, use akaga + enty

[shy hazel]

i told u

[finite valve]

siruis with 3 CV

[willow storm]

dont have her, waiting for her to appear in exchange

[shy hazel]

just use hiryu

[finite valve]

now that a thought

[shy hazel]

lol

it may sound memey to u

[finite valve]

we need bunnies kai tho

[shy hazel]

but hiryuu is god pvp ship

lol

he dont have amagi or hood

so cant make meta fleet

[azure aurora]

Never try sirius with 3 CV

[willow storm]

well it will take me a while to level her up

since shes only level 19

[shy hazel]

just use any tempo for now

just grind her

farm 3-4

until lvl 60

lol

oops u have foxes at mlb

just farm any other map

[finite valve]

tbh if you really want to prove how your comp is the best

[willow storm]

foxes arent MLB

[finite valve]

won them in def battle

not off

[shy hazel]

then go farm more copies

[willow storm]

kaga is like, 2nd LB and akagi is 0 LB

[finite valve]

winning in off is easy

in def is fucking hard

[shy hazel]

farm copies in 3-4

i farmed 7 kagas

[willow storm]

oof

[shy hazel]

lol

3 akagis

[willow storm]

[shy hazel]

and just purinned the difference

poggers

[willow storm]

3-4 hard or normal?

[shy hazel]

cos amagi suddenly changed meta

pogchamp

normal

farm there until u level up the ships u need

for pvp

[finite valve]

tfw you farmed all 5 SR drop ship

feelsgoodman

[willow storm]

also, the lecture hall

is it another way to gain xp?

[shy hazel]

i got all sr ships in current en

lul

id prefer calling them ssr though

poggers

yup

just another exp farm

[willow storm]

ah

[shy hazel]

i wonder how long choukai will take me

foxes took 6 days cos 2 of them

poi took 3 days

maya 2 days

[finite valve]

if only 12-4 drop was good

got like 10 100mm already

zzz

[shy hazel]

only columbia good in w12 i think

choukai herself best takao they say but still

🚮

[finite valve]

eh wrong map bro

11-4 is columbia

[shy hazel]

was she w11

poggers

[finite valve]

w12 is childhood friend and choukai

[shy hazel]

hiyou was it

[finite valve]

yeh

[shy hazel]

another shit cvl

[willow storm]

what level should i farm to in 3-4?

🤔

[finite valve]

50+

[willow storm]

hmmm

[shy hazel]

until 50

[willow storm]

they are already above 50

i'm leveling portland ayanami and duke

[finite valve]

at least i like their design in KC

[willow storm]

so go to 4-4 next?

[shy hazel]

ye

just keep on going high

if u can

[finite valve]

rule of thumb for power levling is that the ship need to be at least 10+ above the world you are doing

so yeh 4-4 at 50 sound good

[willow storm]

well port is 60 something rn

but 🤷

aya and duke are still at 50

[finite valve]

you can try 5-1

[shy hazel]

5-1 has good gold bps

try farming the gold dd gun there

[finite valve]

127mm

[shy hazel]

6-1 is good too for gold sg

u need both for pvp

[willow storm]

hmm

[finite valve]

if only hell cat exist in w6+

[willow storm]

got it

i might swap out aya for Laffey

just to make farming easier

[shy hazel]

hellcat is in 5-2 i think

dont

u need to grind aya up

lul

[willow storm]

well duke almost died on a normal enemy so...

think that shows i'm taking too long

[shy hazel]

[finite valve]

give her a tool box

or 2 of them lel

[shy hazel]

give her best anti bomb ship gun

purple aux gun that looks like a lunchbox

[willow storm]

i mean, i've given her a repair tool and autoloader

[hollow dawn]

[willow storm]

[shy hazel]

he's asking how to build a pvp fleet

so we're teaching him pve