pvp

[hot creek]

top three all lvl 94 lul

[split socket]

I just want to beat dinoy lmao

but I'm going to be busy the whole week so won't be retrying for a good while

[hot creek]

same. someone dethrone him pls

[modern tree]

hey phoenix, play your games so I can go to bed

or dont, thats okay, I will live without this 1 point

[hot creek]

im at 8/10 right now, will three matches do?

or will I have to do 4

[modern tree]

I am sitting on 1376

actually, dont, I feel bad now, ima just smash you

[hot creek]

no wait

it should be enough

im at 1382 rn

gimme a sec

[split socket]

whats ur ign ? also are u in sandy ?

[modern tree]

man, I am almost 2 charges behind now, what a world

[split socket]

not in my list 😢

since I started playing, this season had been the worst lol

everyones sandbagging so hard

[ivory vine]

ive fallen on hard times after getting my aotn 2 seasons ago

[modern tree]

this season does feel really bad, so many people hang at weird scores, I took a game with 500 ranks apart today and got 10 points

[ivory vine]

aka i keep forgetting matches

ive missed fuckin 15+ matches in both seasons

[modern tree]

in top 1k

I am so confused

[split socket]

same lol, I was at 900ish

fought someone at 300

got 10

[buoyant parrot]

I'm out this season. I lost 1 and miss 1 attack. I had to drop out now

[ionic magnet]

top 1 in avrora has 7999 pts in ex

[split socket]

jeez

[hot creek]

@modern tree done.

at 1412 now

[modern tree]

what a trooper

thanks

time to get busted for win trading

all the evidence is there

[hot creek]

Sandy server police gonna crackdown on us.

[modern tree]

I don't even know how this matchup works so jintsuu deals less damage than qe

[split socket]

missed torps

[modern tree]

next guy, exactly the same fleet

pvp is great

I like what Jintsuu is doing to it

[shy hazel]

[modern tree]

I mean, I could and I am almost 2 charges behind phoenix so

[shy hazel]

time to overtake neko

[modern tree]

ima keep my points, dont need to tank those 9s tonight

[shy hazel]

wait

someone alrdy overtook

wait what

i tot cya,is avrora

nvm then

[split socket]

are u at 0/10 already @balmy torrent ?

👌

[brittle hill]

For the Amakaga fleet comp vanguard,

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B-kGGh6rHk7PlXQDkAl8bOGPUMp0oncVFeJAzSjdEgg/htmlview#

Would Jintsuu, Aurora,Ayanami be something you use to attack while Juneau Belfast and Eldridge for defence?

So it's just torp memes then?

That saves me the trouble of investing in Eldridge cause I never bought into that cancer

[coral wren]

@balmy torrent youre cyaneko?

i can beat you i think

if i use all 6 of my runs ill be on 1448 i think

yeah 1448 as long as i dont take - points

[shy hazel]

[coral wren]

i dunno how much i have to sandbag in sandy

[shy hazel]

thats why cya

go back to your original discord name

its cuter

[hot creek]

finally got doy. 12.9k points in

[coral wren]

[split socket]

I got DoY yesterday and every other event ship except for Fiji and Jamaica

this game smh...

[vague token]

still working on phase 2 reee

[coral wren]

im still stuck on phase 2 as well

matchless is hiding

[zenith tundra]

everyone is a sandbagger today. stupid weekend

+1 in 10 attempts

[split socket]

I got a grand total of 0 in 15

I don't know what ppl are doing

they are literally missing

pvp attacks

[zenith tundra]

i'm almost done with ph3 just a little bit more d1 clears and all i have left is ph4

[shy hazel]

this weekendis indeed weird

+2 bonus in 15 charges

well its like a pattern in avrora i guess

[zenith tundra]

i had the worse 1st day with a +5 bonus

[shy hazel]

weekend after first week is always crap

[split socket]

u can get pretty decent score if u relogin frequently the very first 15 mins

at season start

[zenith tundra]

i was sleeping at that time

it was 10am for me but had night shift so i sleep in the morning usually

[brittle hill]

Use my last 2 or wait till morning?

[zenith tundra]

i would sandbag

[finite valve]

rank 415 with 2/10 tries
sandbag with his mind?

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/CRjdJ/f97cbfa609.png sandy PVP in a nutshell

[ivory vine]

but she makes a great defense fleet

cuz we all know def fleets are worthless

so just put cute botes on it

[coral wren]

you can get the free sandbag if you wait for the 7/10

at least i usually do that to at least guarantee one

since people usually always use at least 5

[zenith tundra]

unless they don't use any like today...

[coral wren]

at least one of the four should do it though

if you reset the lowest number moves to the left right?

like even if theyre at the right now

i have to use 5 now before i sleep

[zenith tundra]

the lowest rank should always be on left

[coral wren]

what server is that up there

are people at 415 rank with 1401

sandy server really is trash

[zenith tundra]

i'm rank 397 with 1410

on avrora

[coral wren]

[zenith tundra]

sitting at 10/10

[coral wren]

im only at 1398 with 10

sandy is real good

just gotta get top 10 then i can escape this hell

[zenith tundra]

i don't think i'm gonna get top 10 my bonus is not enough

[coral wren]

is late sandbagging a lot harder?

i mean a 35 point difference you might only be able to get twice max if youre at the top

or even at like 10/10 if youre unlucky

[zenith tundra]

my bad start put me already 1 attempt behind pretty much compared to other good players

[coral wren]

do people on avrora not sleep?

[ionic magnet]

4-5 missed rounds should still be fine

[zenith tundra]

not for top 10 end season

[coral wren]

you can get top 10 with 4-5 miss?

[ionic magnet]

ah yes ofc

[zenith tundra]

that's my goal

[coral wren]

oh ok

when is top 10 achievable again

[zenith tundra]

u can get it with 5 behind if ur bonus is good enough and have a good rush

[ionic magnet]

yes 4-5 missed rounds is still doable if you rush at one of the last resets

[coral wren]

so i can work out how many points i need to get 2200

bonus is only like +1 right now?

so only 1 attempt gained for like 10 sandbags?

[ionic magnet]

yes +2 at most in a good day

[zenith tundra]

2 days, 12 hours before the ranking season ends, which is the earliest point that any player will be able to attain the 2200 Rank Score

[coral wren]

ok

so i can get 950 i think

in what i have left

that will put me like 50 short

no it will put me over by 148

maybe i added in an extra day or something

[zenith tundra]

15x7=105 attempts + 5 left from today till end season

[coral wren]

yeah it will put me at 2198

i think

cos i have 1398 now with 10 attempts

[split socket]

just be prepared to eat some -pts going for gensui

[coral wren]

yeah so i need to get quite a few

out of these last like 70 tries

i mean last time only 3 on sandy made it to gensui

[zenith tundra]

i need at least +40 bonus for 2.6k next week... rip me

how do people on sandy not get to 2.2k?

[coral wren]

nobody sandbags i guess

all just insta use their pvps

or dont at all

i think i saw a few hit 2199

like the reset after

[zenith tundra]

even with all +0 2.4k should be a breeze

[coral wren]

that was only for the top 10

im pretty sure they got more after

they were at 2199 2 days 12 hours left

[zenith tundra]

oh ok

[coral wren]

so a lot just missed out on the 2200

i think like 4 or 5 of them by 1 point

after you get top 10 does your rank just stay as that so you get the 100 merits for each win

or do you have to stay in top 10

[zenith tundra]

need to be top 10

[coral wren]

[ivory vine]

you get the rank up bonus merits tho

[coral wren]

so you basically need to keep spamming exercises on reset?

[ivory vine]

[coral wren]

and losing points

[zenith tundra]

if u want the merit yes

[coral wren]

damn

i guess the 2500 is worth though

[zenith tundra]

how many attempts before rush left?

too lazy to do the math

[coral wren]

if you have 10 now

you have

[zenith tundra]

u did it earlier

[coral wren]

160?

wait no thats wrong

its 3am

gimme a sec

85

• whatever you have now

i think dont quote me on that

it might be 75

75 minimum

[zenith tundra]

i miss the rush by 40 pts then lol

[coral wren]

then i miss it by even more

thats not including the rush ones

so you get 5 at the end

so you should be 10 spare i think

[zenith tundra]

i'm not gonna rush till end either way

if i manage to not waste attempts that's it

[coral wren]

should you sit at 0/10 for final rush?

[zenith tundra]

for rush for aotn u should be 0/10 before u want to rush

[coral wren]

do i have to reset the game to get the 5 or will it auto add

[zenith tundra]

it should give 5 by default only need to reset if u have more then that

[coral wren]

tfw have to burn 5

[zenith tundra]

that's why i don't want to rush

[coral wren]

i should get high ranked people who burn from 5-0 though

cos sandy doesnt sandbag much

so i should get 11 for my first clear

at least

[ionic magnet]

you'll get a lot of +9s and +8s in climbing top 10 btw

so be prepared for that

[coral wren]

cos they should be like 50 points ahead of me when i wake up, maybe more

[zenith tundra]

just waste ur daily opponent resets to get better opponents

[ionic magnet]

theres only 5 refreshes so gl

[zenith tundra]

on avrora u don't really waste many scores. i only got 1 +9 when i rushed it

with 3 attempts behind

[ionic magnet]

oh i got 3 +9s and 2 +8s

all rng

i missed first gensui rush by 1 pt cos of that

[coral wren]

damn

[ionic magnet]

really messed up

[coral wren]

how many points are you at now

[zenith tundra]

aiming for top 10 season end it's safer

[coral wren]

maybe im really underestimating how close i am to 2200

since 3 +9s and 2+8s managed to stop you

[ionic magnet]

oh this season i didnt sandbag as hard

and missed 3 or 4 rounds

[coral wren]

oh

[ionic magnet]

but prolly still doable

[coral wren]

i thought i was screwed

[ionic magnet]

im at 1405 9/10 rn

[zenith tundra]

thank god 2nd bonus of the day

[coral wren]

you missed 3 or 4 and youre at 1405

[ionic magnet]

why whats your score

[coral wren]

do you mean whole attempts? or sandbags

like 30 or 40 points or 3 or 4 +1s

[zenith tundra]

i'm really behind then lol. barelly +16 with 3/4 ahead

[ionic magnet]

missed 3 or 4 rounds so yea p much 30-40 pts

[coral wren]

damn

how do you sandbag that hard

im at 1448 with 5/10

and i havent missed a round

[ionic magnet]

the top rankers are at least 30 pts ahead of me im sure

[coral wren]

how much further over 2200 do they go?

[finite valve]

how tf you get to 1405 if you miss like 3 4 rounds

[coral wren]

to like 2240?

[finite valve]

i am also at 1410 and iam pretty sure i did not miss 1

either that or i am just bad at sand bagging

lel

[ionic magnet]

idk i guess i sandbagged hard then lol

[zenith tundra]

i know my 1st day bonus was terrible so i'm at least 1 behind because of that

[finite valve]

well the first day i think you either get 40 pr 39

to normal sandbagging it is around 34+

not much diff

[zenith tundra]

i got a +5 bonus in 10 attempts

[coral wren]

is first day sandbagging most important?

[zenith tundra]

1st day

[finite valve]

yeh it is

[ionic magnet]

oof

[finite valve]

but the diff between normal and hardcore is not really that big

[ionic magnet]

yea first 5 days or so

[finite valve]

you can either go 40 or 39 1 time

or 34 2 times

[coral wren]

[zenith tundra]

unless ur list is trash the whole day and get +1 for 5k ranks difference

[coral wren]

i dont think i even sandbagged first day now i think about it

[finite valve]

well sand bagging is only relevant for last day rush anyway

you can still get gensui 2 last day if you lurk

[zenith tundra]

tbh i'm only trying for top 10 end season

[ionic magnet]

now thats hardcore

[zenith tundra]

i don't even care for aotn

[coral wren]

i just want aotn then i can just sleep

[split socket]

as far as sandy goes, sandbagging is only for getting top 10 end season

[finite valve]

+2500 tho

[split socket]

since u can get gensui without sandbagging

[zenith tundra]

sleep is overrated

[finite valve]

tell that to my boss

[coral wren]

good job i dont work and im a student

[ionic magnet]

sleep is one thing

patience tho

[finite valve]

well for me sleep is

[ionic magnet]

you'd have to relog every 30 mins or so for that

[finite valve]

not really a problem

is just like 5s relog

[zenith tundra]

i only need +39 bonus for 2.6k in 1 week maybe doable but unlikely

[coral wren]

yeah its like half or so of your attempts

maybe under a bit

[finite valve]

when you reach top 1k it is pretty much all lurker at that point

[coral wren]

i mean you pick up freebies when they all rush to 2200

[finite valve]

need to remember name of ppl who rush so you can reset and wait for them to rush

[zenith tundra]

1/3 of ur attempts is 35 in 1 week so not impossible

[finite valve]

which i don't give a shit

[coral wren]

yeah im not that tryhard

i dont remember 300 ranks

[zenith tundra]

i don't remember anyone's name lol

[coral wren]

i know like 1 person who always rushes

[ionic magnet]

you'll remember them anyways

i met this one person 7 times last season

[vague token]

if you see me, just wait ill probably blast 10 matches in a row

xD

[zenith tundra]

if u actually care to look which i don't since i never use my daily resets either way

[vague token]

/collusion

[finite valve]

@vague token come to avrora i even pay you $1 to do it lel

[ionic magnet]

im looking at names mostly to check guildies

[coral wren]

do you need to get the other ranks before you can get aotn? or can you pick like 3 of them up on 1 day at the same time

since you need to be in like top 100 and top 50 etc

[zenith tundra]

the only names i would recognize would be gurren and sumire lol

[finite valve]

you can get all rank when you rush at last day

[coral wren]

ok

[ionic magnet]

yes you can get them all in 1 day

[vague token]

im on avrora lol

[finite valve]

provided that you can get in top 10

[coral wren]

tfw im 45th up there with 5/10 left

sandy doesnt sandbag at all

[finite valve]

never see your name or that my rank not high enough to see you

zzz

[zenith tundra]

what's ur ign @vague token

[coral wren]

yeah i usually sit around rank 300 but i have to burn resets so i can sleep

i could go to #1 right now

then you would see me

but i might actually be in danger of losing points so im not

[zenith tundra]

even i'm 32 pts ahead of current 1st on avrora

not gonna bother tho

[finite valve]

it is normal if you lurk lol

[vague token]

it's Kiroshima1

[finite valve]

what's your rank?

[vague token]

i slept on a few matches though so im down 2 xD

reee

im at 556 atm

ill probably use 10 matches in 5 hours

before i go to bed

[finite valve]

pray i see you on my list lel

[vague token]

[zenith tundra]

i have 532 in my list as lowest but need to use another 4 before reset

[clear cloud]

now that dork is out do you think dork+ amagi+E is better than WASD E against current meta?

[zenith tundra]

i don't like enty at all tbh. rather use amagi doy hood

gonna give hms a try 1st tho

hood aa is better the almost any not uss bb/c

she should be fine in akaga meta

[vague token]

hood also just has a ton of hit points

[split socket]

all you pvp junkies, please vote on this trello card so we can get devs attention https://trello.com/c/9bBHPZ1C/460-automatic-pvp-refresh

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Automatic PvP refresh

Can we get an automatic refetch on our pvp opponents rank & fleet after a certain amount of time has passed? Right now this information is only fetched once and will only update itself by: relogin to clear cache and check your exercise list, finish a pvp battle or use the "Ne...

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[hot creek]

@split socket https://puu.sh/CRlLm/ef5adeb9ca.png

[split socket]

damn that didn't take long

grats

[hot creek]

I have to give you credit. For reminding me about Helena

[split socket]

guess next step is to beat Avrora too xD

I heard rank 1 on avr got 7999

[hot creek]

wew

[split socket]

[coral wren]

lex has 8004 as rank 1

[ionic magnet]

[split socket]

[shy hazel]

i didnt know restarts name is alex

[shy hazel]

sleepers everywhere yo

[lofty smelt]

lex as in lexington the server name

[shy hazel]

no no no no i meant the mod restart

i saw his name in the trello

[lofty smelt]

oh

[shy hazel]

lol

AlexRestart

leaked

[livid fractal]

Everyone's busy

haven't sanbag that much since the start of the event

[analog hare]

wana sandbag really hard but result in losing round

[vague token]

leander fp command maxed in 8 hours =D

[shy hazel]

you can be chain smoker soon

[vague token]

her smoke is already maxed

already there ;)

[odd schooner]

Resting this season opened a few options on my end

Slowly slipping away

[vague token]

=(

[dull hollow]

finally lost with wakaga vs hms cuz junny only died once 2/3 backline died

[brittle hill]

Ain't nobody got time to relog constantly for pvp

But... Then again... Rip

[vague token]

oof

[lament lichen]

seems like you either missed alot of points

[shy hazel]

ra at max charges

i doubt u can event reach shikikan after

[brittle hill]

I just want top 300

I don't care enough for shitcan status

[shy hazel]

top 300 should be at admiral levels yea

[brittle hill]

[shy hazel]

youll probably end up at 600

[brittle hill]

[coral wren]

Rng is actually fucking me right in the ass, i have 30 rolls more from 3rd stage and i still don't have this bong

[shy hazel]

guess the hole must be four times bigger by now

[coral wren]

Yeah, and it's not only this event, every goddamn thing in this game except maybe construction rolling

[shy hazel]

iguess at this point its already a blackhole

[modern tree]

I am 200 cubes in with no sheff or vicky. Good thing they're not planning any reruns anytime soon cuz I have nothing left

[odd schooner]

||nagato soon||

Actually, I'll still believe the first hint than the latter

[ionic magnet]

what hint 👀

[coral wren]

Isnt naggato anniversery. It isnt snytime soon tho

[shy hazel]

nagato isnt anniv

taihou and essex is

and avrora

[analog hare]

I thinking Yukikaze will come

[zenith tundra]

yukikaze is gonna be around september

[coral wren]

Ohh really. I hope naggato comes soon then. Cant wit for the shit show in pvp meta

[twin glacier]

I'm new to the PVP in this game, a lot of the guides I've been reading say that I'm supposed to make my defense fleet weak and easy to beat for other players, which seems really counter-intuitive.

Is it considered to be really bad manners if I don't do this?

[coral wren]

Yeah, nagato mirrors all over

and no granny warspite to save us

[shy hazel]

cupcake

just be yourself. avrora is the most competitive server

o wait ehat server u in

[twin glacier]

Washington

[coral wren]

Is it considered to be really bad manners if I don't do this?

lol no

[shy hazel]

strong fleet, meme fleet, weak fleet whatever it is, people will still destroy it

just do it .tm

[coral wren]

It doesn't matter, even for the unlucky guy like me after 10 or 20 resets i will prob beat any shit ppl throw at me

[analog hare]

PVP is a joke

[shy hazel]

if u in my leftmost and u has bonus ill kill u whatever fleet u have

[coral wren]

Unless you get dreamy and won't reset in time, then rip

[zenith tundra]

nakaga def looks like will be fun

and with everyone with already maxed out foxes it'll be an easy switch from amakaga to nakaga

[coral wren]

What could be the third ship for namaga setup

[analog hare]

Hiryuu I guess

[gray heron]

maybe taihoe

[modern tree]

It's probably going to be hiryuu or bb kaga, or Enterprise or any similar wildcard cuz Jintsuu aya is not going anywhere

[odd schooner]

First hint last November was subs first before nagamon then there's a pic spreading that nagamon after WC. Hecc idk if i could still enjoy trying out doy fleet pvp if def fleet is filled with nagamon

[zenith tundra]

aya will be discarded for sendai most likely

[odd schooner]

Yep

[coral wren]

I think i'm hms one trick pony from now on

[odd schooner]

I'm trying to reactivate my hms before we get cap up

I think i left QE 160 affection before i raise washy

[modern tree]

You won't run Sendai in Namagi, what'd be the point

[zenith tundra]

i meant with nakaga

[odd schooner]

Oh ye sorry for jargon.

Fren calls nagato nagamon

[zenith tundra]

but even so aya is so weak against cv u most likely wont use her either way

[modern tree]

Her job is to land opening torps, dying to cvs doesn't stop her

[zenith tundra]

rng ship that dies 12 secs in useful

tanikaze would be better at this point

[zenith tundra]

im really curious to see how well namaga does without taihou hiryuu kai or nanoda

[shy hazel]

who knows we may even get better cvs before those two

maybe shang is good and we get that event first

lol

[zenith tundra]

any non ijn carriers is not really worth using with nagato unless really broken

[wise summit]

when we have had enough of armpit

bbvs aren't affected by cv/cvl buffing skills though

[zenith tundra]

hyuuga can buff amagi and nagato dmg tho

When sortied as the flagship: increases allied Sakura Empire ships' firepower by 4% (10%) and their reload and accuracy by 5% (20%). Additionally, increases Sakura Empire aircraft carrier damage (does not affect Aviation Battleships) toward enemy by 5% (20%).

she boost everything as long as u are ijn and cv dmg

namagi should be a defensive wall that outlast anything

best vg would be nanoda juneau something

that is one of the reason why i don't think namagi will be so op in en for a bit

if hyuuga kai barrage range is good that might be what will make namagi so much more usable but without the defensive buff from nanoda and hiryuu kai/taihou damage it might not be so amazing

[modern tree]

Just use Enterprise with Jintsuu Belfast/Juneau and any ijn. Yeah I know shes not ijn but when did that ever stop Enterprise from being the best solo cv

[zenith tundra]

i think that hiryuu without kai with nagato buff might be better then enty tbh

at least 100% then unlucky enty

plus u can use juneau ijn belfast with hiryuu which is a better vg

without belfast vg is 100% dead against sendai aurora nakaga

and juneau most like makes ur bb with low aa survive the 2nd akaga airstrike

nakaga dmg should be ridiculous even on def that's why it was a wall for so long

even now my amagi tanking opponent akaga dmg is so close to death. with a 20% buff to damage amagi would be dead as flagship

and nagato hp is barelly 400 more and has worse aa then amagi

by 3

[ionic magnet]

nagato wont fix hiryuu's biggest weakness

she dies in first salvo

[zenith tundra]

that's why she needs kai for extra hp pool

[ionic magnet]

yes without kai shes just a meme for me

[gilded atlas]

Nagato buff adds 20% damage and 20% acc which is like 20% damage (unless enemy have ultra low eva)

[zenith tundra]

i tried her and she insta dies but with nagato buffs and 2 airstrikes i think she can do better then enty tbh

u still get more touchdown dmg on opponent main fleet with 2 airstrikes than a lucky e

[ionic magnet]

enty gets atleast 2 airstrikes tho

even if only one procs lucky e its better than hiryuu with nagato buff imo

[zenith tundra]

i don't think the battle will last enough or won't be already decided by enty 2nd airstrike

if namagi dies to akaga 2nd airstrike u most likely lose whatever ur enty is up or not

and defensive ijn frontline for amagi buff don't exist in en

and as i said earlier u need belfast juneau most likely already

[ionic magnet]

enty can clean up whether namagi dies or not

[zenith tundra]

i don't think u can kill akaga with only enty. i should try that with amakaga

[ionic magnet]

if youre using enty you most likely just need that 2nd airstrike for a guaranteed win

[zenith tundra]

so if ur vg gets wreckt and u get torp to dead u lose

[ionic magnet]

well that goes for any fleet

[zenith tundra]

even more against nakaga since it wipes out ur vanguard for sure

i don't see the balance using 2 ijn vgs and either belfast/juneau just to use enty

ofc u can go torp memes and hope u kill enemy vg but it's most likely either ur vg will be dead by akaga airstrike or ur main fleet getting reckt by touchdown dmg

[ionic magnet]

both can work for all we know

i'd need to try it myself first

[zenith tundra]

and most likely belfast will barely be able to protect ur vg with extra nagato buff and sendai debuff

plus ur vg still has to eat jintsuu sendai aurora opening torp

[coral wren]

eldridge comes back into meta

jk poor eldridge

[zenith tundra]

eldridge is dead and she'll stay dead forever once we get higher lvl cap

[split socket]

inb4 eldridge retro

[coral wren]

retro skill is to stop time on enemy cooldowns for 5 seconds

on start of battle

[outer stump]

Is Autoloader irrelevant for wasd?

[zenith tundra]

trying this

[split socket]

or auto proc her skill at start of battle with 15 secs invln owo, now thats op

[zenith tundra]

vs this

1st result

[split socket]

completely negates any torp meme / akaga

[zenith tundra]

i'll give some more tries but enty seems to go down fast

after akaga 1st airstrike

[ionic magnet]

i would replace QE with amagi

[zenith tundra]

it's a test for poor aa ships against akaga

actually hood aa is good nvm

imagine with extra nagato dmg that main fleet would be just hood

[ionic magnet]

thats why you put juneau

[zenith tundra]

switching to this

[split socket]

try something like bel jun fortune

[ionic magnet]

i would actually remove aya instead of bel

on offense anyway

[zenith tundra]

u can't remove aya if u use enty with namaga

this went well

[ionic magnet]

oh i forgot youre testing namaga

[split socket]

testing namaga against a fleet thats... not namaga? wut?

[zenith tundra]

win again

[split socket]

also ur fleet is fully oathed, opponents not

[ionic magnet]

yea you just need enty to fire 2nd airstrike

[zenith tundra]

it's mostly a mock battle trying a setup that is inferior to namagi+e against a setup inferior to nakaga

[ionic magnet]

only way you lose is if enty eats a lot of opening torps

[zenith tundra]

i know and somehow it's not 100% win rate unless i use jesus

[ionic magnet]

and if your own torps dont hit anything

jesus

[zenith tundra]

my vanguard is still alive after akaga airstrike which is most likely not gonna happen against nakaga

[ionic magnet]

yeah im also curious how strong would they be

[zenith tundra]

now trying with hiryuu belfast jesus jintsuu

almost a win because of hiryuu shooting airstrike

loss

[outer stump]

What do you guys think about those auxiliaries instead of autoloader? Are they better?

I'm testing that atm and that hit buff works pretty well

[ionic magnet]

not sure if jesus is best for hiryuu

[zenith tundra]

doesn't seem to be working that well tbh my hiryuu juneau comp

[outer stump]

Especially for wash I want hit because I want that barrage to do damage

And for SD not so sure yet

[ionic magnet]

better use sg radars instead of purple fcrs

[outer stump]

I'm waiting for shellings

I'm pretty poor on auxiliary parts

[coral wren]

Hm, 100 torp stat = how much dmg?

[outer stump]

And they are pain in farming

[ionic magnet]

yea well im just saying sg radars are better

i'd wait for shells too

[coral wren]

yeah sg radars are the only gold i dont have a lot of either

i really need to just spend a day farming them

and do like 300 runs

[outer stump]

I mean I have a lot but the sellings will do better

[coral wren]

also aux plates

[zenith tundra]

against a full oath aurora jintsuu aya amakaga

[ionic magnet]

yea vanguard just dies too fast without bel

[modern tree]

Playing qe for just Hood

[zenith tundra]

it's a pseudo test for namaga

[ionic magnet]

he's just testing enty vs hiryuu xD

[zenith tundra]

2nd is a close win

3rd loss

[modern tree]

I am not sure how scientific that is with no buffs for hiryuu, but I guess if you are just trying to see if Enterprise survives, fair enough

[zenith tundra]

that's the main point and without lucky e she's just dead

[modern tree]

Also without buff's to vg acc and reload, which is pretty relevant for torps

[zenith tundra]

plus sendai flare which is another -25% evasion

[modern tree]

Also Amagi has a stat debuff for opponent, it's all rather shoddy

[zenith tundra]

gonna wait for nagato

the airstrike dmg enty takes is quite big

[modern tree]

Bottom slot tends to tank airstrike and cuda torps, yes

Which is another reason this isn't super scientific, you would normally stick your fragile boat top

[zenith tundra]

well it still would be better for enty to tank it then poor aa bc

also qe has same hp as non oath nagato and better aa

well almost because of the 6% extra from love

wait are wiki stats with 6% bonus from affection? because hiryuu lvl 100 should have 350 aviation and my hiryuu has only 334 but only 1% bonus

[split socket]

wiki stats are lvl 100 with 100 affection

[modern tree]

The truth is that probably most are listed with 6% bonus cuz leveling to 100 tends to put you there

[split socket]

all of them are

[zenith tundra]

yeah confirmed it on help too

[split socket]

also QE got lower luck stat than nagato, so they are not exactly the same even if u compare oathed qe against non oath nagato

[modern tree]

If you want to consider luck you should probably also consider she buffs herself

[zenith tundra]

i was pointing out how the 2 of them have similar hp but qe has better aa and she still get damaged really hard by airstrikes

[split socket]

u need to consider their eHP, also other things such as total fleet AA etc

[modern tree]

It all might be irrelevant if Amagi double barrage with Nagato buff can slay a fox

[zenith tundra]

still the biggest factor to consider too will be lvl 110

[modern tree]

Cuz it doesn't matter if first strike trashes you if you sink them before second

[zenith tundra]

namaga has a considerably lower aa then qe hood because hood has good aa plus the vg would be the same

[split socket]

it's imo almost pointless to try and test things out against another comp to know whether it'll work against another, there are just too many factors that may differ causing it to be inaccurate.

[modern tree]

I guess we are just bored

[zenith tundra]

i was just trying to see if enty might have been worth having 2 ijn frontlines compared to using hiryuu/hyuuga and 1 ijn

[modern tree]

we also have no clue if we get nagato next either way, or how soon would that be, or if we get research before or after

[zenith tundra]

May 31st 2018 - June 14th 2018. i mean it could possibly be next

most like not tho

Visitors Dyed in Red Rerun Mar 27th 2018 - Apr 10th 2018 ........................

if we follow jp that's next

but a lot of the small event in the next period we already had them

also i think that jp got research before nagato

[finite valve]

don't they tease nagato is next either way?

i mean the last CG say cherry blossom aint it?

[zenith tundra]

i just want w11 tbh nagato can wait

[finite valve]

what u want in there?

bet it is sendai lel

[zenith tundra]

lvl 110

[finite valve]

night battle intensifies

don't they only add to 105 in the first month of w11 and 110 latter on?

[zenith tundra]

whatever just want higher lvl cap

[finite valve]

still not going to change pvp much lol

except 100 vs 120

[zenith tundra]

the sooner we get w11 the sooner we get to farm mental units

also event will have them too

[finite valve]

going to reach end game either way

[zenith tundra]

instead of t1 plates

[finite valve]

for pvp you basically just lvl break about 6 of them

not really in any hurry to get end game soon

[zenith tundra]

also w11 will set the time for research too

pretty much

[finite valve]

not really into the whole get end game in 1 month then be bored for the next 2 or 3 months

which is basically what ppl are experience now

LMFAO

[zenith tundra]

better then being bored now waiting for stuff

[finite valve]

diff stroke for diff folk

[zenith tundra]

at least research is a good incentive for me because i want all the ships and gonna start with a bad one

[finite valve]

izumo?

[zenith tundra]

ibuki

[finite valve]

pretty sure izumo is worse then ibuki

at least you can still use her

[zenith tundra]

i said a bad one not worst

[finite valve]

order for me is roon > louis > monarch > ibuki > izumo > nep

[zenith tundra]

i'll go ibuki>roon>louis>nep>monarch>izumo

[hybrid tendon]

I'd go for louis first

👏

[finite valve]

well at least ppl still like roon and louis lel

[hybrid tendon]

i like the SPEAR

[finite valve]

DEUS VULT

[hybrid tendon]

btw, how to unlock the ships?

[finite valve]

do quest

[hybrid tendon]

just having the required botes ?

[zenith tundra]

louis seems just a farming thing like we already don't have any ships for that

[finite valve]

@hybrid tendon https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Research

[hybrid tendon]

the wiki is kinda hard to understand

so you get the ship before or after

[zenith tundra]

roon at least looks insane against bosses

[finite valve]

luis is the easiest to farm

[hybrid tendon]

the quest?

[finite valve]

since most of US ship are good

roon however is kindda hard

[zenith tundra]

who cares about hard vs easy if i get nothing out of it

[hybrid tendon]

ye you better get a kms lineup right now

[hybrid tendon]

Unlock Requirement: 20 Eagle Union Frontline Ships

so

you unlock her

[finite valve]

you force to lock in CA or CL for all of the front line

[hybrid tendon]

or unlock the questline?

[finite valve]

both

[hybrid tendon]

so the questline is to level her up?

[finite valve]

no the Q is to GET the ship

[zenith tundra]

i have all the ships released in en except for some map drops and kamikaze/atago from build

[finite valve]

you lvl her up using PR quest

which reward bp for her

[hybrid tendon]

ok so we have to do all those quests

to unlock the ship

?

how to spend bp exactly?

[finite valve]

you do all the Q in that pic to unlock the ship

[hybrid tendon]

do you have to use those on retrofits?

[finite valve]

you then need to do dailies PR quest to get the bp to lb them

[hybrid tendon]

about one of the quest over there

the spend 5 gold bp one

do you have to retrofit?

[finite valve]

you just need the req item then push okay / accept

[hybrid tendon]

or just burn the bp?

ok thats good

[finite valve]

basically you give them your 5 gold bp

if you don't have them then it ain't going to do shit

[hybrid tendon]

because I already retrofitted every ship

[finite valve]

no

[hybrid tendon]

and if "spend 5 bp" is spend on any retrofit

I'm fucked

[finite valve]

you done any of the secretary Q?

[hybrid tendon]

only z46

[finite valve]

then you got a Q saying give 3 torp tempura right?

work the same to the bp

[hybrid tendon]

ye

[coral wren]

what's the best build for enterprise to go 2nd in mirrors?

[modern tree]

You can either use converging torps or hellcat

[coral wren]

already oathed her and 200 happiness

[modern tree]

unequip torp bomber altogether

[coral wren]

so... tenzan?

wait, but wouldn't i miss damage that way?

[modern tree]

gold Ryuusei is the only converging torp bomber worth anything in this game

[coral wren]

what about the new torpedo bomber?

[modern tree]

oh yeah

[coral wren]

is that worth using?

[modern tree]

BLACKBURN FIREBRAND known by a boring name Torch on EN

its slower than cuda but has the same torpedo loudout

that would work actually

clever girl

[coral wren]

well, time to max that shit then

Hm, for some reason juneau is giving more troubles than ayaya+jin

here if only i had jintsuu, fml

and that's only juneau on the bottom, i think if i faced those who put her on top or middle i'd have to reset much much more

it feels like with her you are forced to make ws and hood to hit 1 target fast

otherwise jesus heal just negates all your dmg done

[modern tree]

I fought some pearled juneaus on fox fleets

it's sort of obnoxious, but you usually win because they dont have the power to push through your VG and while they do get a second strike at full power, all the bombs go to whats left of your front

[coral wren]

why the hell can't i just get arizona

35% heal is a fucking ass

for the fucking pearl

Well, in my case they managed to bomb by backline through my vanguard every fucking time anyway

because retarded chinese rng guides my vang right to the fucking backline to make it easier for bombs and salvos hit it

[dull hollow]

such a lust for meme comps

whooooo

[modern tree]

it was almost 1 420 0

[real notch]

don't oath enty
worship and obsess enty and her VA ishikawa yui

[dull hollow]

going surprisingly well

battles don't feel as decisive tho

could just be me iunno

will have to run some more

[coral wren]

does having a strong pvp defense fleet help u keep ur rank?

[real notch]

yes

[coral wren]

do explain

[real notch]

ok i just need to prove that it can help right?

[coral wren]

explain why it would help u keep ur rank

[real notch]

let's say shikikan A has a 9000/9000 fleet

let's say i have a 12738/12900 maxed amakaga fleet

[coral wren]

yes ok.

[real notch]

now, i am in his lobby

i am rank 1250

he is rank 1260

now, i am 10/10 and i burn all 10 games

i jump to rank 56

now shikikan A refreshes lobby and tries to fight me

he obviously loses

didn't i prevent him from gaining points?

[coral wren]

nope. he can just refresh and still get 10 points

he lost couple points dpeending on how much score he and u have in between

[real notch]

he won't surpass me then, because i was 1250, he was 1260

if he gets same points as me, then he won't be higher than me

he needs bonuses to beat me

now, if i had a 400/500 purin fleet

[coral wren]

if he waits untill a fleet he can beat. to do same thing u did burn all 10 games and then he will gain more bonuses than u

[real notch]

he can farm immediately +12

then outrank me

see the difference

between defense fleets

[coral wren]

that is if someone with 9k fleets soemhow managed to get almost same score as u

[real notch]

ye, it's possible

so as long as this example i showed u, is POSSIBLE

then my point is proven

[coral wren]

I guess

[teal berry]

I didnt do 4 rounds, for some reason it just vanished or the opponents were too strong, i waited for the refresh to come back and now I am sitting at 1328, so I can still bypass someone with a heavy defence

[real notch]

i mean i am spending a lot of time arguing a silly point

because the difference is so tiny lol

it basically doesn't matter

what defense fleet u have

[split socket]

All you accomplish with a strong def team is preventing newer players from getting higher ranks. At some point u'll have a fleet that can beat any defense team that it doesn't matter for you anymore and all it matters is how hard you sandbag

[real notch]

but, i think once you are trying to keep gensui (for whatever reason)

having a strong defense fleet will actually help

[coral wren]

I have been getting gensui since the 2nd week I started playing

I never used a full defense fleet

[split socket]

it won't. Because ppl who can take gensui generally have strong enough fleets to defeat whatever u throw at them

With the option of reset available and 20% dmg buff to offense, defense fleets are joke

[real notch]

well, that's true MOSTLY but there are cases that they aren't

lol

i've seen trash ass

10k/10k fleets

in gensui

[coral wren]

those are defense fleets

[split socket]

def fleets are usually trash

u don't know what they are using on offense

[coral wren]

they want ppl to get ahead so they can sandbag

[real notch]

no no like

level 62 shikikans

with a lv 98 enterprise

i've seen it

[coral wren]

was that at start of washington?

[split socket]

those cases are so rare that it isn't even worth considering

[real notch]

no in avrora

[coral wren]

gotta be some hardcore sandbagger

[real notch]

err but yea that was a while ago

[coral wren]

I use my offense team in my defense fleet cus its easier to swap gear when I find someone that is actually fully geared.

[real notch]

maybe like 2 months

it was like hood illustrious enterprise

[coral wren]

and was it after 2200 score was possible?

[real notch]

ye like gensui

[coral wren]

like 3 days left of the season

[real notch]

or somewhere close

i just checked rankings now

everyone is like level 80

[coral wren]

right now dosnt matter who is on top

those ppl will lose their ranks

[real notch]

ye

[coral wren]

they will get +8 +9 and eventually get pushed out of top 100

[real notch]

the only thing that will realistically keep ur ranking is sandbaggign

[upbeat hollow]

when do comps start actually mattering? when trying to break into rear admiral?

[real notch]

uhh

pretty much as long as you are using amakaga

ur good

and it matters depending on ur ranking

[upbeat hollow]

oh ok. guess i should work on those 2 at some point

[real notch]

all the good sandbaggers sit at pretty much the same ranking for the entirety of the season

[upbeat hollow]

im hovering around 1400-1500ish but my fleet is kinda trash compared

[real notch]

like, i belive

there's a sweet spot "ranking" that most of the sandbaggers sit around

kind of like normal distribution

so if you sit there

you'll either face meme fleets or people who just put their offense fleet as defense

and usually those fleets are tougher to beat

[coral wren]

"tough" in pvp

[upbeat hollow]

yea i cant really fight any 11/12k+ fleets

[real notch]

[coral wren]

then u are newbie

[real notch]

yea like

[upbeat hollow]

10kish give or take i can usually beat

yea this is my 3rd week playing

[real notch]

12.6k/12.3k minimum amakaga fleets

i'm almost 7 months in

[upbeat hollow]

its kinda weird you can cancel pvp matches tho but

[real notch]

honestly as long as ur using amakaga ur fine

if ur using wasd or anything else

be prepared to get cucked

like 30% of the time

by facetorps

[upbeat hollow]

whats wasd

[real notch]

fucking finally

i got dork

jesus

50/597 of stage 3

[upbeat hollow]

nice

[coral wren]

wasd is washington south dakota

[upbeat hollow]

oh

washington is before i started playing i believe

[coral wren]

yeah rip u missed a great bote

I am glad I play in washington. everyone here kinda started on same footing.

pvp on first week was all low lvls xd

[upbeat hollow]

i ended up on lexington since the friends that got me into this game were mostly on lex

[modern tree]

I see a lot of fairly weak fleets on Sandy and it creates a situation in which I have to sit on my rank 468 until someone from my list pushes to top 100 or else I can forget points

[real notch]

hm

is anyone going to do QE hood dork

and test against amakaga

[modern tree]

yes

guess whooooo

[real notch]

rip but ur in different server

i think i'll have to do that too then

[upbeat hollow]

hopefully hood pops up for medal exchange no luck getting her yet

[vague token]

ill be doing hiryuu/amagi/dork heh

only the finest of mixed fleet

[modern tree]

dork is 75 atm, I dont have a lot of time to play, but I should be done before her yellow skill is maxed

[real notch]

holy sh

i'm so behind again

just like with amagi

ptsd

[vague token]

i got stuck on phase 2, just starting phase 3

dont feel bad lol

[upbeat hollow]

ima make you guys cringe a bit in a sec

[finite valve]

<doy still at lvl 1 with lvl 1 skills zzz

[upbeat hollow]

thats what ive been using

[real notch]

owo

[upbeat hollow]

sometimes i swap sirius for port or helena

[real notch]

do u perhaps like white hair

[upbeat hollow]

i think

LOL

im thinking about caving and just lvling meta stuff tho

i like chaser but meh

[coral wren]

what do u mean meta stuff

[real notch]

see if you can put fusou in mid

[upbeat hollow]

like enterprise instead of chaser

[real notch]

it's better to have battleships in capital spot

[upbeat hollow]

oh i swap positions around backline wise

cuz top position snipes bottom right?

[coral wren]

just get foxes and amagi lul

[real notch]

nono, that's only for warspite

it's a warspite exclusive mechanic

[upbeat hollow]

is amagi available?

[coral wren]

u started after crimson echo?

[upbeat hollow]

yes

[coral wren]

ah rip

[upbeat hollow]

yesterday made it 3 weeks

i do have akagi and kaga tho

i guess i can shoot for an HMS fleet since i have QE and DoY

[coral wren]

hms = yummy snacks

[upbeat hollow]

what do you mean?

[coral wren]

ez target

[upbeat hollow]

rip

[finite valve]

hms might work on off

but not on def

[coral wren]

:3

[finite valve]

even with doy i doubt they can even win vs wasd enty

[real notch]

you never know man

[finite valve]

the gun stagger time is too big

[real notch]

well maybe you do but

[coral wren]

the vanguard dies so fast as if they want to sink

[real notch]

still gotta test

[finite valve]

3 BB with 2 of them using 406

[upbeat hollow]

is there like a decent video i can watch to learn more or anything?

[finite valve]

trial and error lel

[coral wren]

u read the chat here from all these woke pvpers

[finite valve]

since most of them are JP CN with gear we don't have

not to mention 120 vs 100

[coral wren]

absorb their knowledge

[upbeat hollow]

fair enough

[coral wren]

I wonder if there are actually ppl using kms fleet in pvp. I saw someone in help asking if he should max torps first cus they do dmg in pvp

[finite valve]

kms might work on off vs the other comp

dk about amaga tho

[coral wren]

what fleet dosnt work on offensive?

I mean on the meta list

[finite valve]

well the key word here is "how much" reset you need vs amaga

[coral wren]

which one cant beat others if used on offensive

I see

[finite valve]

you can technically "win" when you on off

just need reset

lel

[coral wren]

lul

[ember jungle]

what are some good vanguard to complement my takao and jav kai (Dont roast me nerds) My back line is enterprise illustrious and unicorn but I swill replace lusty for Dork wheni get her

[real notch]

Uhh

Sirius?

[modern tree]

Helena, Sirius or Aurora?

[ember jungle]

bet. I just have to get her after pulling 80 times already lol

[real notch]

Or the standard jintsuu aurora juneau?

Or belfast

[coral wren]

U think he has jintsuu when he is going around with those ships?

[ember jungle]

dont roast me F

[coral wren]

no no its not a roast

[real notch]

Nani

[finite valve]

tbh since you just starting out don't try to be competitive in pvp

best advice is just use whatever for pvp

[ember jungle]

i know but I just want a better team. All my ships im running are 100 or 99 mlb

[finite valve]

when you got meta ship ready then use them

[rigid galleon]

@real notch You said to switch Loader for tools, but also to use Beaver badge,
So should i replace the tools or anti-torp for the badge? I'm guessing the tools?~

If yes, Then is this better?
https://imgur.com/a/5GVtE7F

all of these should be fixed:
dive bomber to SB2C helldiver
change hood main gun to twin 410mm
illustrious fighter to hellcat
change loader for toolkit on belfast [though using badge instead]
twin 100mm on eldridge (if possible)

[If responding to me/this please ping me]

[vague token]

personally i wouldnt bother with belgun on juneau

i just use a twin 127

[finite valve]

we can't really give advice since you don't have good / best ship to use with what limited ship you got

@rigid galleon use purple 406 not gold on hood

[ember jungle]

what is the best ship to run with her just so i know for future reference

[split socket]

@rigid galleon ur using the wrong 410mm

the gold 410mm is really bad, go back to purple :x

[rigid galleon]

So i'm using wrong 406 and 410? lol >.> RIP
one sec

[finite valve]

@ember jungle tbh your comp is all over the place so can't really give you ship recommendation

[split socket]

also if u've been farming HM, u should be able to buy hoodgun soon (381mm in core shop)

that's the best gun for hood

[finite valve]

which ship you want to use?

like what ship you want to absolutely want in your fleet?

[ember jungle]

Enterprise and dork

Frontline is ok to change if i can pull for future

[finite valve]

add queen elizabeth in back line

swap out enty once you have hood

[rigid galleon]

@split socket purple orr gold?
as i have 381 purple

[split socket]

381 gold from core shop

no one should have it atm

[modern tree]

just 2 more days

[finite valve]

front you need to add belfast juneau and fortune kai

[rigid galleon]

ahh, i gotcha

this is the best my hood can do atm then
(aka fixed da gun i think)

[vague token]

SOON

[finite valve]

does he even have enough core for that gun?

[vague token]

wait how are you at 709

[rigid galleon]

Where do ya get core from? just farming? lol or?
only got 65

(only farming i do is enough for events)

[vague token]

im at 710 lol

[split socket]

I have weekly quest left (15 core)

and also got bugged mission once so I'm missing another 5 core

[vague token]

ah

oof

[finite valve]

but then you get +3 more tries

so even out lel

[split socket]

@rigid galleon Daily hard mode runs

go for the highest world u can do

[rigid galleon]

Oof, i don't do those, lol

[split socket]

since they give more core data

[real notch]

that's the best gun @rigid galleon for hood atm

until we get twin 381