pvp

[odd schooner]

[zenith tundra]

lol

[odd schooner]

The first guy is Sumire the other guy is a newcomer

[zenith tundra]

i think i slept on some more attempts yesterday can u tell me ur score

2029 with 9/10 now

[shy hazel]

2029 9/10 looks fine

maybe u lose 2-3 charges total

[zenith tundra]

i'm 2 behind already lol

but maybe more

because i feel asleep and woke after reset

[shy hazel]

based on my own bonus farm thats only about 2 charges lost

but u have opier bonus techniques soo

maybe u lose 4

[zenith tundra]

my technique is fucking up my sleep schedule that is already fucked up by the fact that i work in shifts

[shy hazel]

i hate fkin up my sleep so i dont bother farming bonus when its sleep time

[livid fractal]

I give up sandbagging when no one is attacking after 10 mins in the reset 4am time SEA..

[zenith tundra]

if i were to go to bed at midnight and wake at 7pm i would miss a lot tbh. my resets are at 10pm 4am and 10am

[odd schooner]

@zenith tundra 2081 9/10 i missed one match this season

[ionic magnet]

so many SEA peeps 👀

[shy hazel]

i think it enuf to get gensui at no loss

with my bonus method

as long as i rush

[odd schooner]

He's gonna suffer

No cuda

[zenith tundra]

i slept on at least 4 of them lol

ok that's a rip

doesn't even matter at this point lol

i thought i had my alarm set but i didn't

[livid fractal]

2214 for me later with one lose.

[odd schooner]

Did a fight slip

[ionic magnet]

2065 9/10 missed 3 rounds

[shy hazel]

soooooo

who here is fighting in the next reset

first gensui rush

it should be easier because not everyone has the points to participate

[odd schooner]

I'm still doing end season

[ionic magnet]

next reset is 4 am for me

its saturday but not sure xD

[ionic magnet]

do i get a +9 if my enemy is 2 pts lower than me?

nvm i got a +9

[analog hare]

[near sparrow]

So is there some HP buffing in pvp?

[modern tree]

Double hp, half damage taken, more or less. I recommend reading through the pin

Finally some wc news, starting on 21st

[hot creek]

holy crap. a lot sooner than i thought

this is good

[coral wren]

Any thoughts on Victorious?

[hot creek]

she's bad. really bad. a top contender for worst SSR in the game.

but she's bae so i'll be oathing her day 1

[coral wren]

Hm, yeah now when i look at her stats they are quite...underwhelming

what a shame tho, i was kinda intrigued by her anti bb skill

[hot creek]

anti BB skill has a shit modifier. only a mere 20% bonus. make it 200% and maybe it will be good for what it was made for.

[modern tree]

Centaur

[hot creek]

where

[modern tree]

All HMS carriers have a bad habit of being worse than Centaur, who also happens to deal bonus damage to bbs

Because why not

[hot creek]

Im starting to regret dumping my overcap gold on Lecture Halls

I thought WC would be much later

Lecture Halls are pretty useless as well

[modern tree]

6 days is pretty easy to get around 160k

[coral wren]

same, i wish i just spent that gold on boxes instead

[modern tree]

or some dumb high number like that

just need to farm

[hot creek]

yeah ill probably no life 7-2 til then

[zenith tundra]

glad to see no breaks since there isnt much to do anyway

the only problem might be cubes tho

i only have 190

[modern tree]

I am firmly sitting at 150 and it is unlikely to change since I want this dumb, smug limited ship

[hot creek]

MVP control for CV is gonna be annoying

[modern tree]

just run Hamman/Z25 with no torps, I am very original I know

[hot creek]

might have to +10 a Meme-155A and Susei

[modern tree]

I guess I am the only person with all of the unique equipments at +10

[hot creek]

although Idk if shaving off 2 seconds is worth losing that damage

I guess it is for mvp control purposes

ill manual everything if I have to.

for the day 1 oath challenge

[modern tree]

if only you didnt run foxes like everyone else so you had free planes to put on her

[hot creek]

I mean, I could +10 my extra cudas and Hellcats if I wanted to

[modern tree]

can just level her RNG skill and get easy mvps

[hot creek]

even that doesn't give much edge. I was trying to give MVP to Ranger and she was only getting it half the time on auto lol

[modern tree]

Rangers loudout is super slow tho, 2/3/3 should be faster?

It's Zkk speed and they wouldnt give slow loudout to the boat that has skill reliant on sucessive airstrikes, right?

[hot creek]

yeah, Ranger is slow. And I was using double Helldivers as well

[modern tree]

if you dont want to level Susei because who wants to, you can always just grab a Junkers, it's cheaper and still a lil faster than Helldivers

hey, they fixed core data daily so it's gonna be marginally less suffering, woo

Sitting on those fat 149 core datas today

[hot creek]

well, technically it was a massive nerf to data core farm.

but they didn't intend to give out x16 cores at six daily runs in the first place

I'm wondering who is in the rare overlap of people who did their six runs yesterday while also having uncompleted weeklies, they'd be siting at 159 cores right now lol

actually might be even more if they didnt do daily either

[zenith tundra]

i have 164 core data

[hot creek]

damn son

[modern tree]

this has to be one of the most broken patches on technical level they have released so far and makes me feel like emailing them to ask if they need help with the QA Any bonus to farming this shit is welcome

[zenith tundra]

didnt collect a lot of missions because of overcap oil. guess it paid off

[modern tree]

Damn my fictional OCD

missing out on whole ONE RUN

[hot creek]

you missed a hard mode run?

were you at -2/3 yesterday? lol

[modern tree]

na, I just obsessively finish all my quests as soon as I get them

[zenith tundra]

u get 15 core Data with purin weekly

[modern tree]

I usually get purin weekly done on tuesday latest

[zenith tundra]

i do the quest early too but dont collect them till i need the oil usually

[hot creek]

that as me last week when i was under gold cap. saved up my weekly coins untiil i decided to commit to overcap.

if only i had decided to commit this week rip

and it wasn't even a "commit" cause i blew it all on shitty Lecture Halls thinking WC would be farther away lol

[zenith tundra]

rip oil for me tho gonna run 10hr commission non stop for money

i have auditori lvl 6 at what lvl is yours

[hot creek]

same, 6. Not spending a single dime more until I get Victorious though

[zenith tundra]

im saving for building too

[odd schooner]

Gonna stack gold again

Winter is coming too soon

[zenith tundra]

guess gonna wait to get them all before i continue auditorium

thats actually fine

this whole month has been just mini event so far

[hot creek]

If i had actually read how Auditorium/Lecture Hall works exactly, I might have not bothered to upgrade it at all

didn't realize you were limited to training only one ship type per day

[zenith tundra]

i know how it works and still spent money on it lol

gonna to use it for all the retro ships i dont have yet

since i pretty much farm with lvl 100 for oaths

[hot creek]

I wish oaths would reduce consumption costs

that was a thing from KC lol.

reduce oil costs by 15% for that ship

but it doesn't matter that much. AL gives you so much oil anyways you have to seriously go out of your way to avoid being overcap

[hot creek]

lmao top guy rushed his charges to prep for gensui with a 21 point lead over # 2

I got him twice while finishing my five matches

two free +11's

Bless RNG

[modern tree]

I am like 8 points off 2200 on this reset, thats what I geat for missing so many charges

[hot creek]

there is a real possibility I might get gensui this reset without even rushing

oh crap. I should change my defense fleet to more annoying one

https://puu.sh/CMK2b/fc21c858a7.png one rusher PogChamp

[modern tree]

that has never happened before

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/CMK7Z/f5b0b04ffe.png most annoying defense fleet NA

haven't maxed out sodak's Focused Assault yet though

since I don't think its worth the books at this point

[modern tree]

what are those wimpy numbers

[hot creek]

no oaths m8

except for Jintsuu

also Juneau isn't even 100 affnity lul

[modern tree]

move over

[ionic magnet]

im 3 pts short reeee

[hot creek]

where's yo Jintsuu and Ayanami

gotta maximise RNG torps

since you have the advantage on defense

[modern tree]

na, Leander has super high AA

and fucks with torps that are ran by like 80% of people on this server

I was considering putting in Cleave just to fuck with people more

might still do it

[hot creek]

does that extra AA really do much tho

I find that getting my backline slammed with RNG torps and then my frontline suiciding into BB's and Amagi sniping weakened backline poses more of a problem

[modern tree]

I mean

maybe I am just thinking about it wrong

[hot creek]

or in some cases my VG gets rekt by the torps themselves and you have an even worse problems with enemy Ayanami hanging around ready to face torp the backline

[modern tree]

I am definetly not running Ayanami tho

I think

I might just run 3ijn but not sure how good that is

on defense

I know it works on offense super well

[hot creek]

can't replace Junuea for defense.

[modern tree]

probably

[finite valve]

think the best def is jesus belfap and jintsuu tbh

or maybe port land

[modern tree]

portland is too slow, just makes you eat all the bombs unless you run her with a DD

[shy hazel]

hello gensui my good friend

[hot creek]

grats

[shy hazel]

thankies

[hot creek]

I'm actually wondering how the top guy got from 2166 to 2205

he must have eaten a +7

and four +8's

since he literally could not have gotten any +10s. +9s would be unlikely given his 21 point lead over 2nd and any 9s would put him over 2205 unless he did get one and at two +7's

[outer stump]

I got there one time then hardstuck 5 stars admiral

[split socket]

we need more ppl like that on sandy lol

[shy hazel]

i mean

he was probably top 1 already

three charges away

from gensui

so he had no choice but to fight

lower ranks

i just fought myself two 8 and one 9

cos i dont have resets

and im rushing

ended top 10

almost didnt get gensui

[neon aspen]

Can someone recommend me a third instead of Cleveland? I can’t pass Rear Admiral

[shy hazel]

lol

[outer stump]

Cleveland is pve only I think

[shy hazel]

jintsu

[outer stump]

She has nice stats but MGB+1 isn't a thing atm

[shy hazel]

we cant suggest if we dunno what ships u hav

[outer stump]

Torps are everywhere

[split socket]

ur ships isn't the problem

[shy hazel]

oh wait

[split socket]

ur gears are

[shy hazel]

put the goddess there too

[outer stump]

Better pick up Juneau and take away that enty from the middle lol

[shy hazel]

juneau

[modern tree]

I think your enterprise being flagship is bigger problem than cleave existing

[outer stump]

And Kaga whit ryuusei can easily bring your Belfast down

[shy hazel]

go farm,foxes if u can too

[outer stump]

@modern tree oh wait that's the Def fleet

[neon aspen]

I have all the foxes at 100 but their gear and skills aren’t finished yet

[outer stump]

Backline looks fine but bring hood to middle

Or amagi

[shy hazel]

max skill pre emp fast if can

[outer stump]

Up to you

[shy hazel]

youll be demigod fast

[neon aspen]

I use that for defense and offense. I just got into pvp this year

[outer stump]

And enterprise top

[shy hazel]

amagi foxes

just prioritize your foxes

replace boi with juneau

ill even say replace helena

assuming u dont have jintsu

[neon aspen]

I’m leveling Juneau right now. I think she’s only level 60 right now

[outer stump]

Helena is too squishy imo or I had bad times useing her

[shy hazel]

put aurora or

[neon aspen]

Yeah I don’t have Jintsu yet

[shy hazel]

aurora u have?

[neon aspen]

Or Aurora

Feels bad

[outer stump]

Pick ayaya

[shy hazel]

then put fortune for stalling

[modern tree]

2 strong barrage bbs with helena enterprise should easily carry you, tbh, I think that your equips are what needs work, not lineup

[shy hazel]

ayanami is a good alternative if u want dmg

ill prefer fortune because with foxes youll just want your vg to stall

[modern tree]

you will hear all those ship suggestions and they wont do anything because your equipment is still bad

[shy hazel]

until your foxes kill enemy

[outer stump]

12206 power feels like kinda maxed backline/gear, that 10872 vanguard is questionable

[shy hazel]

but yeah

gears

ge has two bbs

[neon aspen]

Yeah the Vanguard is the issue. The back line gear and skill are all maxed

[shy hazel]

which is somehow

easier to make power levels higher

than,cvs

[neon aspen]

I’m grinding a radar for Amagi right now tho

[outer stump]

What do you use on each?

[modern tree]

with oaths I dont think this backline should be nearly this low

[neon aspen]

Should I screenshot each girls gear?

[outer stump]

If you can

[neon aspen]

No problem

[outer stump]

Just curious

But post one by one

Not all at the same time

[shy hazel]

photoshop and put all gears in one img

[outer stump]

Too much work tho

[neon aspen]

I put aya instead of Cleveland for now

[shy hazel]

put rainbow mag on aya

[outer stump]

The gear looks fine, if you get an golden Barra just max it

[shy hazel]

surprisingly geared actually

[modern tree]

that backline with oaths should be closer to this

[neon aspen]

I’m still leveling Amagis second gun too

[shy hazel]

i think he only has one oathed dax

[modern tree]

I can see the skinssss

[outer stump]

And for hood better pick up an auto loader, that hsfcr already gives you nice stats

[shy hazel]

my amagi foxes doesnt even have 13k scores

full oath

[modern tree]

hood has way higher points than foxes

[outer stump]

For amagi you can pick 2 fcr if you have 4 IJN ships, if do not 1 autoloader 1 fcr

[shy hazel]

o thats two

[modern tree]

and I did literally put together this backline with bis to screenshot the power

[outer stump]

And for the rest... Make them +10

If you can

[shy hazel]

he has all limited event gears

pretty neat

[outer stump]

I miss the oxy torp

[livid fractal]

Tfw you're out of refresh and have higher points..

[shy hazel]

the hardest problem is one

[outer stump]

[shy hazel]

gold cudas

goodluck getting those

[neon aspen]

I’m pretty limited on what I have for gear so I’m grinding for a gold radar to put on Amagi on the hard maps

[livid fractal]

Till next season of sandbagging. Night

[shy hazel]

switch pls

[hot creek]

PagChomp

[livid fractal]

[shy hazel]

i did 2 8 1 9

cos no reset

[outer stump]

How tf do you get so easily in the navy fleet rank? I do one season perfect still 5 stars....

[shy hazel]

ended up top 10

pogchamp

sandbagging my friend

go farm bonuses

[outer stump]

@neon aspen why u shouldn't use pearls tears in PvP lol

[shy hazel]

learn the way of the camper

[hot creek]

an ancient secret technique called sand bagging

[shy hazel]

i lost two charges cos of work

still gensui

[modern tree]

you can lose as many as 4 and still hit it on gensui day

[outer stump]

It is the best item for PvP vanguard + it gives lot of hp

[modern tree]

5+ is impossible on first reset tho

unless you can camp 7 more points than me and I like to think I am prety competent at getting extra points

[shy hazel]

thing i hate about genrush is

if no reset

pogchamp

lose points

i ended up rank 11 in my first rush last season

[neon aspen]

Should I get it to plus 6 and put it on Aya instead of a toolbox

[shy hazel]

but then i got gensui on third rush

oxytorp will only go into two ships

ayanami or jintsu

for en

[outer stump]

Still can't get higher than this

[shy hazel]

and plus ten that shiny rainbow,dildo will you

[modern tree]

using oxy in pvp is moderately useless

[shy hazel]

[modern tree]

I mean, keep using the torp, tee hee

[shy hazel]

pls

oxytorp is best

[outer stump]

Better hp for Jintsuu than oxytorp tbh

[shy hazel]

just keep on face tanking torps

[outer stump]

For ayaya 2 for sure

[shy hazel]

aya with or without oxytorp will die fast anyways

might as well burst when round starts

[outer stump]

Then put all the burst on the table than useless hp

[shy hazel]

hen let her sink

assuming youll use her

[outer stump]

I would've do that if I've could

[neon aspen]

Putting Aya instead of Cleveland already raised the Vanguard power to 11.8k

That was a huge jump

[shy hazel]

aya has dumb raw,stats

dumber once u put rainbow dildo in her

[neon aspen]

I gave her the dildo and that tear thing

[shy hazel]

is all good

[outer stump]

Kai Destroyers always get like 4500 power

[shy hazel]

aya has a high chnce to die fast anyways

[outer stump]

But it doesn't matter that much... They are squishy af

[neon aspen]

Now I need to just level her and Juneau skills

[shy hazel]

i prefer my pearl with jun

plus 10 andcput her in front

so she dies moderately

[outer stump]

I don't think stacking the heal is that good

[shy hazel]

fast

[outer stump]

You need some other healing just in case tbh

[neon aspen]

Mine is only level 59 so I think I’m going to level her and Yat Sen during this event

[shy hazel]

its preference

[split socket]

pearl on jun is wasted lol

[shy hazel]

👌

[outer stump]

• that hp boost is no good for an suicide ship... You should use it on some dps ship

[shy hazel]

[neon aspen]

Who should I put it on then

[shy hazel]

i dont use jun anymore

just put pt on ayanami

[outer stump]

@neon aspen aya

[shy hazel]

just what u are doing now

[neon aspen]

Oh that’s who it’s on

[shy hazel]

putting it on belfast is a very bad idea

cos belfast survives alot

[neon aspen]

I swear my Belfast is always the first one to die for my Vanguard

[outer stump]

Yeah... Better let her whit Torp bludge

[split socket]

🤔

[shy hazel]

[split socket]

shes the first one to go for me as well

[shy hazel]

she goes last

pogchamp

for me

[outer stump]

Belfast should tank... if Helena doesn't survives within 20 sec you're lost

[split socket]

I'll try swapping positions probably

[neon aspen]

She’s always first to die

[outer stump]

Max the buldge

[shy hazel]

put two bulges

[outer stump]

She won't always die first... Only if she gets stacked torps

[shy hazel]

belfast need alot of balls

[outer stump]

@shy hazel the passive won't stack you know?

[neon aspen]

Would putting two bulges help?

[outer stump]

No lol

[shy hazel]

[neon aspen]

I didn’t think so

[split socket]

no, it doesn't stack

[outer stump]

One buldge one lunchbox is just fine

[shy hazel]

sad life

[outer stump]

Ayaya middle

Give the rainbow Torp to her too

[shy hazel]

jun aya belfast

[outer stump]

And for Belfast quintuple magnetic (if you don't have then normal quintuple)

[shy hazel]

belfast aya jun

[outer stump]

And in the back Helena ATM if you don't have Juneau maxed

[shy hazel]

id prefer belfast front on some situations

juneau on front in some

for jesus heal

[outer stump]

That's what I use as vanguards if you want an idea

[neon aspen]

Weird my screenshot won’t send

[split socket]

no amagi?

[outer stump]

But if you cant get Jintsuu then go for Juneau

@split socket no 4 IJN no amagi imo

[split socket]

amagi without 4ijn buff is still better than hood lol

[outer stump]

I don't think so

[neon aspen]

I’m definitely going to finish Washington and South Dakota skills too. I think they’re at 7 or 8

[split socket]

all it does is give u bb version of preemptive strike

[outer stump]

Still like hood... She gives some reload

[shy hazel]

amagi is alot better

i used thatcfleet last,season

pog

[neon aspen]

Speaking of Hood is my gear on her right?

[shy hazel]

assuming u have fully skilled amagi that is

[neon aspen]

I don’t know if the Fire Control Radar is good on her

[shy hazel]

[outer stump]

I'm just avoiding using IJN backline because I want to use other regions ships

[shy hazel]

[outer stump]

@neon aspen change it whit an autoloader

[split socket]

reload on wasd doesn't matter that much compared to -9% on enemy fleet fp, torp and aviation. U also get 15% less burning dmg and a 10% evasion buff for backline

[shy hazel]

preference will only delay u getting aotn

more efficiently

[outer stump]

Akaga are aviation

[neon aspen]

My only one available is only plus 6 tho

[outer stump]

So that buff won't be that usefull

Tbh

[shy hazel]

wait what

[split socket]

-9% aviation + 10% evasion > 40% reload for 8 secs lol

[shy hazel]

what does being aviation

have to do with it

[outer stump]

Tought hood has much more hp...

Amagi will die in an instant

[shy hazel]

no lol

[split socket]

amagi indirectly buffs ur entire fleet

[outer stump]

@neon aspen just use it... It will be much better

[shy hazel]

your enemy gets dmg debuff

that alone makes up for hp

and it buffs all of your ships

[outer stump]

Just 9%

[shy hazel]

indirectly

[outer stump]

Idk I just don't like to use her

[split socket]

9% and 10% evasion lol

[shy hazel]

9 applies to whole fleet

[outer stump]

I used the meta but I'm actually sick of it

[shy hazel]

well its your preference

[split socket]

if it's preference then I understand 😄

pretty much why I steer clear of juneau

[neon aspen]

Do I put the fire control radar on anyone else?

[outer stump]

I mean I have them but I want other ships to shine

[split socket]

one of the first ships I lvled and maxed for pvp, haven't even used her a single time

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

i stopped using juneau a while ago, must protect

[shy hazel]

i used juneau like a,wet rag

[outer stump]

@neon aspen amagi but give her an autoloader too if you don't have 4 IJN ships in the fleet

[vague token]

only use her against full tank vanguard amagi/wasd

[shy hazel]

amagi should always hae

[outer stump]

I use Juneau because of the full BB fleet

[shy hazel]

hfcr and gold sg

[outer stump]

But I see that now I use her on every comp

[neon aspen]

I have a purple SG radar on her for now until I can get a gold one

[outer stump]

Soon I will make KMS shine

[shy hazel]

farm 6~1

nope

[outer stump]

Which would be a big fail but meh

[shy hazel]

it wont shine

when ur the only one using it

[outer stump]

Actually full Z guard is pretty good

[vague token]

full z guard has gun deeps but is squish

[outer stump]

But when you face aurora you're pretty much over

[vague token]

yeah

[shy hazel]

theyre good target planks for me

[vague token]

also probably loses to port kai bulk

xD

[modern tree]

gun deeps doesnt do anything in pvp unless you are CA

[neon aspen]

My main fleet power only dropped by like 100 so that’s not too bad

[vague token]

i mean we arent in a vanguard dps meta, just 2 torps and then dead xD

so rip

[shy hazel]

we should have pvp mode that have meme mechanics

like no cv

[modern tree]

there is no VG dps meta

[outer stump]

If the hyuuga kai will be added then I will have an stablile backline

[neon aspen]

I just have to level up Hoods autoloader now

[shy hazel]

on some days

[vague token]

exactly

[shy hazel]

so cas can be used

lol

[odd schooner]

Autoloaders...

[modern tree]

CAs can be used, the thing is that we are missing items for them

a lot of them

[vague token]

gold steering wheel when

xD

[outer stump]

And evasion

[shy hazel]

and we still need 120

[odd schooner]

You mean Washing machine

[vague token]

oh is that what it's called

xD

[odd schooner]

Advanced rudder

[vague token]

we need a list of all the fake names for all the gear ;)

[odd schooner]

I think we do

[shy hazel]

atago gun

[real notch]

rainbow dildo

[vague token]

oh god

[neon aspen]

What gear should I put on these two

[modern tree]

ow this AA gun

[vague token]

i saw nepgun and thought neptunia

lol

[shy hazel]

sup neko

[real notch]

triple 406mm (purple)
twin 127mm (gold)
twin 113mm (gold)
SG radar/HFCR (gold)
SG Radar (gold)

[shy hazel]

got gensui now?

[real notch]

@neon aspen

[odd schooner]

The maingun depends on what you want to go

[outer stump]

@neon aspen you can pick up this one (same for South Dakota)

[odd schooner]

Default bb mg is 406mk6

If you want to sink enterprise, 410mm purple

[real notch]

yea i was gonna mention that

twin 410mm is good against eldridge and enterprise

actually i might even say 410 is better overall

because splash radius is smaller

[vague token]

plus, an enemy dead sooner is less dps

coming from them

[outer stump]

I still love 406 for quick trades

[odd schooner]

3rd shell rarely hits

[real notch]

theoretically you lose like 153-ish dmg on the 1 less "bullet"

[odd schooner]

[real notch]

but in practice that shit never hits anyways

so the twin 410mm is probably my go-to

unless if you're trying to hit VG

[odd schooner]

Oh wow switch is top boi atm

[outer stump]

I won't start now to max 5 410 so I will use this

[real notch]

tbh idk why everytime i look at top pvp it's always switch

[odd schooner]

[real notch]

he's either sandbagging god or luck god

[neon aspen]

I’m so low on plates lol

I still need to gear up Jun too

[real notch]

also AA gun is pretty interchangeable

as long as it's gold, it's good

[odd schooner]

If you are low on plates

[neon aspen]

And fortune

[odd schooner]

Better to not upgrade autoloaders first

[split socket]

I was so close to getting at least 2224+ rn

[outer stump]

You can farm SP3 (event map) for plates... Its pretty easy to Fram too

[split socket]

lost an attack this very morning while brushing teeth -_-"

[neon aspen]

I’m just going to have to level them up slowly

Yeah that’s what I’ve been doing today

[odd schooner]

So 7 ppl lost/missed an atk this season

[outer stump]

@split socket is it better?

[odd schooner]

Counting even ppl outside avrora

[neon aspen]

Can someone send me screenshots of their Jun and Fortune please

[real notch]

i have juneau

lol

not fortune

1 sec

[split socket]

waaaaaaay better

[real notch]

Vg highly depends on ur overall comp tho

[odd schooner]

Gonna pic my def fleet equipment here

[outer stump]

That's mine

Oh wait you wanted Juneau

[real notch]

fortune is just like

[outer stump]

Wait you can use DD guns on Juneau?

[real notch]

ye

[outer stump]

I didn't noticed that

[real notch]

it's the highest dps actually

[outer stump]

But is it better or should I use Belgun

[real notch]

also + AA

[outer stump]

She already has high AA imo

[real notch]

as a general rule of thumb, unless if you want 2% more firechance

DD guns do more dps than CL guns

[outer stump]

• she is suicide boat so she doesn't need that much protection

But at least I out her in the middle

[odd schooner]

Even with High AA

Won't be enough to kill off planes

So get more AA

[split socket]

really? I always thought CL guns were the ones that did more dps owo

[real notch]

nop

wow nice belfast skin

[outer stump]

Why u use braver tag on BB?

[real notch]

BB has low EVA

[outer stump]

[real notch]

base washington EVA is like

18

[outer stump]

I still need to get that shit fml

[real notch]

badge is the most OP EVA aux in the game

[neon aspen]

Feels real bad I only have 2 gold twin 127s

[odd schooner]

You'd want beaver on your back especially when fighting a barrage boat

[split socket]

ppl underestimate eva too much lol

[real notch]

it gives 35 EVA when the 2nd best EVA aux is only +18

beaver badge op

[odd schooner]

Or slap another SG

I'll miss these SGs once white shells arrive

[outer stump]

Lots of sg but who needs them when you can buy shellings

[odd schooner]

Uhh

[zenith tundra]

no shelling yet

[neon aspen]

What should I put on Fortune?

[outer stump]

They will be soon

[zenith tundra]

who knows if we even can buy them

[odd schooner]

Oh right fortune

Wait

[zenith tundra]

next month

[split socket]

they cost 800 core data tho s_s

[outer stump]

Not even now I understand why some people uses fortune

[split socket]

fortune is pretty op keeping ur backline alive

[real notch]

fortune used to be great

now she's just

ok

[zenith tundra]

evasion is amazing but i'd rather have hit on amagi since her hit rating is trash

[outer stump]

Insecure players

[split socket]

[hot creek]

fortune just gets wrecked by torps, foxes, and op amagi barrage now

[odd schooner]

You haven't fought walls before aurora?

Because they're literally walls

[real notch]

if you want to use fortune, i'd say slap a twin 127mm, quad magtorp, twin 105/bofors, toolkit + toolkit/boiler

yea that

^

[zenith tundra]

dd cant use bulge

[odd schooner]

Ye i forgot to switch aurora out lmao

[real notch]

o woops i meant to say boiler

[split socket]

then what are those two big bulges I see there

[odd schooner]

Torpedoes

[split socket]

ic

[odd schooner]

Like tengen toppa yoko tank W

[real notch]

big tiddy DDs

yea

meta is pretty boring right now

[outer stump]

Who needs Eva when you have huge hitrate

[real notch]

it feels like amakaga+desron is at the top

[odd schooner]

Uhh

Sg offers eva and hit

[real notch]

and there's not much competition

[zenith tundra]

maybe hms will make it more interesting with doy

[split socket]

whats desron owo

[real notch]

desron = destroyer squadron

[odd schooner]

Oh

Fortune

[split socket]

imagine if they release nagato as well

u won't see any other fleet besides IJN anymore lol

[real notch]

a DD fleet usually led by a CL/DD torp flagship

[odd schooner]

[zenith tundra]

we are stuck in between nagato + amagi + ? and nakaga

[outer stump]

I mean I can use one but 2 are already awkward

Just my option

[real notch]

wasd + amagi seems strong

[outer stump]

I want like reload whit it

[real notch]

but still often loses vg fight too fast too early to amakaga

[zenith tundra]

lacks damage on def but since u can easily outlast amakaga it works

[outer stump]

I won a lot whit wasd hood

[real notch]

it's hard to recover when VG 2nd round torps point black ur backline

[neon aspen]

Now I need to pick which skills I want to start leveling.

This is always the hardest choice

[split socket]

who are u lvling?

[outer stump]

Sometimes loses but just fk the Torps

[real notch]

can't fukin believe

amagi was released

[zenith tundra]

good for u i'm leveling up erebus skill lol @neon aspen

[real notch]

like

8 second barrage

AP, HE, torp barrage

annihilates VG 80% of the time

ijn is balanced

[split socket]

well game has been out a while even if en is new. Power creep is bound to happen at some point

[outer stump]

In this game they release a lot of ships but never they are going to balance them

[zenith tundra]

u forget best part... -9% to all dmg stats

[real notch]

even tho i'm not an HMS player

[split socket]

if u think amagi is bad, look at warspite kai lol

[outer stump]

Which is a bad point

[real notch]

i'm kinda excited for dork and ws kai

[neon aspen]

I was leveling up Yat Sen and Ping Hai but I’m going to put them both off for awhile. They’re both close to all max

[zenith tundra]

i'm looking forward to doy too

ws kai can go fuck herself tbh

[real notch]

LUL

[neon aspen]

I’ll do Jun, Aya and Washington I think

[split socket]

[real notch]

the loli BBA hate

[outer stump]

Vs an oath team the Amagi debuff will be useless be sure they already get 9% anfinity boost

[split socket]

good thing is, u can still counter warspite kai somewhat

[real notch]

is it because she has no jugs

[split socket]

since u get to decide who to put up against her on offense

[real notch]

LOL

[outer stump]

[real notch]

hey sounds like sandy

[zenith tundra]

if ws kai wouldn't be more broken then amagi maybe i would like her but she seems like total unfun. u just put a ship in and autowin because she makes the battle 6 vs 5

[real notch]

"lmao look at all the sandys i've retired"
"holy shit sandy kai OP"

[outer stump]

If the Bismarck will be ever released she will break the whole game

[split socket]

rhine drill, 100% crit chance & 300% critical dmg to Hood

[zenith tundra]

the game balance flew off the window with nagato tbh than sandy kai

[real notch]

nagamon

tbh if they just made patch notes and balanced ships

instead of trying to release new ships to counter nagato

like essex, sandy kai

it'd make shit a lot more easier

[outer stump]

Doy will solve everything

[split socket]

it's hard to nerf ships without getting huge backlash tho

[zenith tundra]

ws kai is not even a counter to nagato because she cannot target her lol

[real notch]

ye tbh

[split socket]

ppl spend time and for some even money to get certain ships

[zenith tundra]

and the worse part is that u can use both

[real notch]

manjuu is just playing a hard game

[split socket]

if they are not careful with balancing and end up wrecking a ship, imagine the backlash that will come

[real notch]

by making ships identical in both PVE + PVP

[outer stump]

How to counter ws?
Just put your valuable ship in the middle

[real notch]

if they did what other games tend to do

and that's to separate PVE and PVP more

[zenith tundra]

too much work

[real notch]

PVP would be much more balanceable

[split socket]

@outer stump I intend to use hiryuu kai 😄

[real notch]

instead now it's like

[outer stump]

I want Tirpitz whit Hyuuga Kai

[real notch]

omegalul amagi 8 second barrage omegalul

[split socket]

probably the only ship that will survive her first barrage

[zenith tundra]

pvp wasn't balanced since nagato they'll not change that now

[real notch]

or

omegalul hiryuu kai undying proc, send 1000 planes airstrike omegalul

[zenith tundra]

i think hiryuu is fine the way she is

[outer stump]

Her Kai sends more planes?

[real notch]

the hanafuda planes are pretty strong too

with retrofit, she already sends 2 airstrikes roughly every 20ish seconds

now when she dies

she'll send another airstrike

so basically

[zenith tundra]

idk how tanky she is post kai but pre she's pretty squishy

[real notch]

if it's 4:25, and hiryuu kai just procced undying

she'll send out 1 undying airstrike, 1 hanafuda airstrike instantly

and 2 seconds later, she'll send her normal airstrike

[neon aspen]

Out of Fortune, Aya, South Dakota, Washington, and Juneau what order would you guys recommend I max all their skills?

[zenith tundra]

but cv dmg at 120 is not as much as at 100

[neon aspen]

I’m too indecisive lmao

[real notch]

it's not as bad but

the problem is

usually at that point in the game

(and pointed out in game recordings)

both VG is usually dead

so hiryuu kai with ryuusei will send like

12 torps

straight into enemy backline

[vague token]

wait, should i be using ryuusei on my hiryuu

im doing cuda atm

[zenith tundra]

for pvp washyngton>juneau>south dakota>fortune imo

[real notch]

hiryuu seems to be ryuusei

[split socket]

aim for like lvl 5 on every ships skills

[vague token]

oh, i guess ill try that

[real notch]

but only for retrofit

i've been doing 3-2 hardmode for the last 2 weeks trying to get hiryuu

[vague token]

ouch

im using hiryuu right now as the ezmodo anti amakaga

3 strikes in the same time period as 2 is pretty good

[zenith tundra]

aya in pvp is not good unless u fight against at least 2 bb

[split socket]

lol wot

[zenith tundra]

against cv she dies quite easily

especially akaga aurora

[split socket]

🤔

that goes for most vg ships tho

[zenith tundra]

u can survive with better ships tbh

aya hp is low

[real notch]

Yeah ill have to

Bc i think u get less core points if u farm low level hard maps

[zenith tundra]

plus cl can equip bulge that is mandatory in current meta

[real notch]

And i need that amagi gun

Apparently its the fastest firing

I wonder how fast amagi can shoot

[split socket]

it's bis

[real notch]

With that gun

[zenith tundra]

for pvp that gun is trash most likely. the salvo dmg is low

[real notch]

Ye should look into it

But as a bb gold gun

Does it give fp?

[zenith tundra]

it's bis for barrage boats pve

[split socket]

@zenith tundra with that reasoning, 410 is trash

[real notch]

If it gives good fp then its quite nice

[split socket]

u use it for proccing

[zenith tundra]

410 does more damage per salvo then 381

[split socket]

it's gold so 45 fp

[zenith tundra]

the tradeoff of the extra reload is not worth the damage lost

[split socket]

don't underestimate 3 seconds faster

[zenith tundra]

for what?

[split socket]

u get to sink the opposite ship before they even get to shoot

[real notch]

If it gives 45 fp then thats good

[zenith tundra]

a ship that strikes before anything else but jb?

[split socket]

it's for proccing barrage

[real notch]

Is it HE or AP

[split socket]

which is a lot more important than some extra dps on her shells

HE

[real notch]

I havent looked at this gun yet

[zenith tundra]

cn wiki has 406 on amagi because of her reload lol

[split socket]

406 is viable

but by no means bis

lol no

[zenith tundra]

the only thing 410 is better is because of belfast smoke and flagship position

[split socket]

the damage is good, but ur sacrificing her barrage for that

which more than makes up for the dmg

[zenith tundra]

that only works as flagship tho

[split socket]

I run amakaga so shes naturally flagship. Perhaps 406 is better on wasda like u say

sounds plausible

I see ur point now tho, barrage on top/bottom isn't nearly as effective as mid so

[zenith tundra]

as flagship her barrage is mostly used for killing vgs

[real notch]

wasda

[split socket]

I'd prob still go for 381 over 406 though when nagato comes and steals the flagship pos

that's not true at all lol

I've won against other amakagas countless of times simply because my barrage shoots faster and sinking opposite amagi countless times

[zenith tundra]

it the enemy vanguard is caught in the he part is like an airstrike

[split socket]

akaga + torp vg sinks enemy vg for me

torp vg does even more than my akaga tbh

akaga only comes in to clean it up

when a single ship survives with like 10% hp and using beaver and running everywhere

[zenith tundra]

juneau is only used for her skill lol

not that aurora is much better

[split socket]

I'd prioritize aurora

since her skill is relying on keeping her alive

while juneau is useful when she dies

junistrash,keeproyalmaid

[zenith tundra]

best vg for mirror is belfast aurora jintsuu

for non foxes jintsuu aya aurora

[split socket]

is aurora really that good tho, I still don't have her 😦

so far she seems trash on def

[zenith tundra]

aurora is what makes enemies dies like flies without belfast

with belfast the almost die

[split socket]

guess that's why my torp vg is outdpsing akaga lol

with my luck, I'd probably not get aurora for a very long time

[zenith tundra]

belfast aerial dmg reduction is amazing against akaga

[split socket]

planning on experimenting with Sirius as an aurora substitute

she should work pretty well with akaga

[analog hare]

sirius is only buff HMS CV/L ?

[split socket]

shes at least tankier and packs more fp to make up for the lower evasion debuff

[zenith tundra]

i'd love to try belfast sirius aurora but u give up ijn buff

[analog hare]

[split socket]

u can replace bel with aya / jin

[zenith tundra]

maybe not for mirror so u can use jintsuu aurora sirius

sirius is a pve ship

she's more viable for us in pvp because of lvl 100 and cv dmg still amazing

[split socket]

tbh

when we get 120 and higher worlds

she'll be less relevant prob

[coral wren]

was last reset the first time people could get admiral of the navy?

[split socket]

CV are pretty bad at pve already

[neon aspen]

@real notch what’s a good Hiryuu gear set? I’m leveling her for back line after Arizona

[split socket]

all because of the bombers

[zenith tundra]

w12 is a thing tho and u can use cv there

[hot creek]

@coral wren yep

[split socket]

idk how w12 is, just that the enemy are cv heavy

[coral wren]

only 4 people on sandy got it then i guess its easy to get top 10 on sandy

normie server

[zenith tundra]

wish it would be easy on avrora too

[split socket]

good thing I'm not a normy then

[real notch]

avrora is not easy OMEGALUL

everyone's a fukin sandbagger now

[split socket]

tbh

[real notch]

it's annoying

[zenith tundra]

i'm 6 behind right now so rip me

[coral wren]

is sandbagging worth it? ive heard conflictions about it

[real notch]

@neon aspen reppuu, SB2C, barracuda\

[split socket]

I'd argue sandy is harder to get gensui on sandy on this reset

[coral wren]

yeah only 4 people managed over 2200 rest are around 2170

[zenith tundra]

if u can u should sandbag as much as possible

[split socket]

it's hard to even get +1 points while u are at 10/10 on sandy

because other ppl are so freaking behind

[zenith tundra]

maybe i should be playing there since i always lose attempts

[coral wren]

i lost like 4 times and got 2150

cos my facebook messenger popped up in place of the pause button

[zenith tundra]

2150 with 0/10?

[coral wren]

yeah im 0/10 now

what kind of fleet are u using that u can lose like that

lmfao

[zenith tundra]

i have 2080 with 9/10 and 6 behind

[ivory vine]

i missed like 15+ games

[real notch]

i missed a million games as well

[coral wren]

amakaga with aurora eldridge ayaya

[real notch]

[coral wren]

eld

i should probably switch eld for belfast

[split socket]

2207 rn with 1 lost attack. Salty rn cause someone took nr uno

[coral wren]

id win a lot easier

[ivory vine]

switch eld for anything

[coral wren]

i married eldridge though

[neon aspen]

Reppuu?

[ivory vine]

ive had to reset like twice since i leveled my aurora

[zenith tundra]

belfast is decent and only shines against akaga

[ivory vine]

and both were like 0 torp hits and no amagi barrages

[coral wren]

like 95%+ of fleets on sandy are akaga

[ivory vine]

everyone is running amakaga tho

[split socket]

eldridge is absolutely amazing when ur gears are deficient

[ivory vine]

so im just using bel/aur/jint

[coral wren]

I cant decide belfast aurora jintsu or juneau jintsu aurora or juneau belfast jintsu

[ivory vine]

would swap bel for aya prob vs anything not amakaga but im lazy

[split socket]

not so much once everything starts maxing out tho

[coral wren]

i wish i had jintsuu

[ivory vine]

go farm her

[coral wren]

just go get her? :D?

[red nexus]

Is there any valid strat that uses enty?

[coral wren]

im only 40% clear on 9-3

[zenith tundra]

the problem with triple cl is that ur a slowpoke and hms/wasd will sink ur vg like flies

[real notch]

wasd e uses enty

[split socket]

?

wasd I can agree on

[ivory vine]

when essex comes out

[split socket]

hms is like a joke rn tho xD

[ivory vine]

there's another one

[red nexus]

And how do i run wasd?

[zenith tundra]

i fought an hms and my vg got deleted on offense

with bel jintsuu aurora

[coral wren]

washington south dakota enterprise im guessing

[zenith tundra]

which is why u want aya speed instead of belfast

[split socket]

well, I guess anything can happen I haven't exactly played that comp so it's not like I have any experience with it

[red nexus]

Thanks

[zenith tundra]

plus aya torp on bb are insane

[split socket]

aya is insane against everything tho

almost always mvp

[coral wren]

my aya always misses, even with mag torps

or she dies

[ivory vine]

my jintsuu crits like 5.4k vs heavy armor

[split socket]

treat her better then

[ivory vine]

i have oxytorp on her tho cuz im not using aya

[zenith tundra]

the problem is without belfast ur vg dies really fast to foxes

[ivory vine]

i thought w/ wasd you wanted your vg to die

[split socket]

how does one become a pro like u

[ivory vine]

[split socket]

sec, I need a dictionary

don't know what that word means

[coral wren]

do you get more than 50 points from 5 runs?

if so i might try to get top 10 next reset

[split socket]

I'd suggest u start sandbagging

[zenith tundra]

sandbag is the way

[coral wren]

its where you use 6 level 100s that have like no gear or something right?

[zenith tundra]

if u give up sleeping too u can do it

[coral wren]

literally nobody on sandy uses sandbagging

[split socket]

is that a genuine question or sarcasm :x

[coral wren]

actual question

ive never found out how to properly from anywhere

[zenith tundra]

sandbag is when u wait for opponents to use attempts and attack when someone in ur list is at least 35+ points ahead of you

[coral wren]

some say full fleet of 100s some just stick literally any fleet in

[split socket]

what zack just said

[coral wren]

is that 35 points or ranks?

[zenith tundra]

this way u get extra points

points

[split socket]

to do that, u keep urself at 5-10/10

[zenith tundra]

score if u want

[split socket]

when ur opponent has 35+ pts more than u, u get 11 pts instead of the normal 10pt when u defeat them

[coral wren]

ok so i should like take the 5 pvps slowly to allow myself to drop between fights?

[split socket]

let it fill up to 10/10 if ur list doesn't have anyone that has more than 35 pts than u

[zenith tundra]

u just want someone in ur list to be over 35 points ahead of you. it's rng

[split socket]

just make sure u don't accidentally miss an attack when sandbagging

that's the only hard part about it tbh

[coral wren]

should i have a trash fleet on defence so that its easier for others to get higher rank? or something

[split socket]

doesn't matter

if u feel kind

[coral wren]

okie dokie

[split socket]

use trash fleet

[zenith tundra]

use strong fleets pls it's more fun for everyone

(at least imo)

i hate meme fleets or lvl 1 fleets

[split socket]

I'm sure newcomers appreciate ppl who put trash fleets

[coral wren]

for aurora ayaya belfast should i put belfast in front or behind?

[zenith tundra]

i appreciate an actual fight tbh

[split socket]

a lot of my guildmembers still dont do pvp despite playing for months because they got used to being totally shat on in pvp when they first started the game lol

[zenith tundra]

belfast tank aya middle aurora off tank

[hot creek]

if anything, when i got first shat on in pvp, it motivated me

[zenith tundra]

we have auditorium for exp lol

[split socket]

I still don't quite get ohw the auditorium works

do the ships only get exp once I press end?

yea, I get that part

[zenith tundra]

when u run lvl max fleet u get exp in the auditorium u can use to level up other ships

[split socket]

but my ships don't seem to receive any xp at all

[coral wren]

i used it when it was bugged and it really annoyed me cos they all got 1 xp after being in it for hours

[split socket]

yea thats what happened to me too

1xp

[coral wren]

its unbugged now as far as i know