pvp

[coral wren]

She can solo 1v3

[ivory vine]

so im just gonna run an essex fleet once she comes out

[native mantle]

aye but only if ya have level 50 ships as opponent^1^

[dull hollow]

amagi needs a few buffs to be really good

sticking her randomly wont work

but a Namagi + warspite kai comp

seems funny

will try

[bleak osprey]

8s barrage wipe vanguard. I'm okay with that

[native mantle]

or namagi+taiho

[dull hollow]

i already run namagi taihou

[modern tree]

I am actually leveling KMS atm just to see if I can beat people with it, which I will be able to surely, ther's nothing wrong with that plan

[dull hollow]

i already tried the kms meme

with triple z

u lose

vs everything

[native mantle]

i can't meme KMS. no zeppelin

[dull hollow]

u only win sometimes because enty carried

[modern tree]

I have maxed Z's Z's suck

you use real ships

[dull hollow]

even with real ships

u dont win anything

u dont have damage

[ivory vine]

real ships

[bleak osprey]

Ya'll enjoy your theory crafting. Imma run.

[ivory vine]

well then it's not kms fleet

[dull hollow]

but

centaur + Tirpitz

can scrape wins

[ivory vine]

centaur

[dull hollow]

it's KMS in spirit ok

[ivory vine]

centaur + anything can fuckin win

[dull hollow]

yah pretty much

centaur stoopid

town bycicle

used by every nation

[modern tree]

On EN it wont be a problem because EN fleets suck

[dull hollow]

nah i mean

i tried the kms meme wayback when JP was 100

we didnt have amagi

we didnt have FW

and u just autolose

so with fw and amagi mixed in

gl sir

[modern tree]

I have not seen a single FW fleet played right on defense

not one

since I started playing

it's all stalling

[dull hollow]

suicide fw harder to pull off on def cuz of stat nerf

[modern tree]

Nobody seems to be really trying. If I find one FW without belfast I will let you know (you will never hear from me)

[dull hollow]

ive yet to see

suicide FW

good EssexE

so i will never get data vs them

[native mantle]

that would be what? WASD+???

[modern tree]

Wasd seems to be most powerful with a carrier backing up their shit inconsistent damage, so its probably just Enterprise or Centaur

Amagi works on EN because you can still afford not using Juneau

so you can play for barrage with a dumb frontline

I was using Takao for a couple of days and it's amusing me a lot

after 120 the heal will be way too much to just power through

[native mantle]

and why is WASDE with belfast not a FW fleet?

[modern tree]

it is a FW fleet, just a slow as fuck one. You want your frontline to die so wasd kills theirs so you win because all shells and enterprise strike will trade with their backline very efficently

if you run belfast they dont die

People are too scared of losing their VG despite having 5 second grace timer to reset on sodak even if something does go to shit

[dull hollow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/352975182065041410/541004708735614988/alrunner.gif

[ivory vine]

just use hiryuu and get a 15s grace timer

[modern tree]

Hiryuu can work, but her damage is hot trash compared to what Enterprise and Centaur can do

[dull hollow]

i like taihou better than hiryuu

for that slot anyway

[modern tree]

Taiho in FW, hmm

have you tried just running Centaur in Namagi with 2IJN frontliners?

[hot creek]

sodak's 5 second "grace time" is what caused my loss this season 😂

[idle python]

There isn't really a good 2nd ijn front liner that works really well with namagi without giving up another important slot

Jintsuu kinda works if you want torp memes but namagi doesn't really care much about it

[modern tree]

torps are bad on offense, I kinda knew the answer to that already

but maybe Centaur makes it so obscene that bad VG is not an issue

[idle python]

I may be able to test next season but i don't see a 2nd ijn frontline being worth replacing the other frontline

[modern tree]

I wish I had a better perspective on the jp/cn pvp

[idle python]

Guessing something like this (nothing is married on the fleet and some don't have PvP equips on ofc)

Ibuki might also work if you want to be more aggressive but if you want to meme that way jb+full torp probably better in that regard

[livid fractal]

Well, I tried.. Till next season again

[real notch]

OMEGALUL

i'm like 300 points behind

[livid fractal]

You forgot to attack?

[real notch]

yea

[livid fractal]

[real notch]

amagi grind distracted me

dw next season next season

[livid fractal]

yeah, meta right now is pretty cancer

amagi foxes and torp meme

[elder crane]

I'm finding what I thought to be a meme team, hiryuu/amagi/enty, to be actually quite good on offense
Seems to very consistently destroy foxes at least (Hiryuu MVP)
Though, it's not as fast as foxes, and and you risk Enty duels, so unless everyone you face is running optimized foxes, and maybe even still then, not worth running probably

[wise summit]

I'm just so happy that foxes are solid again

Life was so shit after wasde entered meta for hood foxes

Now with amagi enterprise can just pack her shit and go owarida home

[edgy kiln]

heh 2223 rank 4

you guys sure got it hard

meanwhile in lex

lost once this season

[finite valve]

i think the term should be get gud lel

but yeh only avrora are competitive

[sharp obsidian]

I am happy I chose Lex. PvP being easy is a plus 👍🏻

[hybrid tendon]

Done with da rush

[ivory vine]

i got mine after this reset and ive missed like 6 or 7 games

[hybrid tendon]

[finite valve]

manage to get gensui with 3 miss pvp

[ivory vine]

sandy pvp ranking

[finite valve]

phew

[shy hazel]

rank 15

no losses

i guess ill try next season

avrora is too just too meme

[finite valve]

go big or go home

AKA get gud

[shy hazel]

no its more of a timezone problem

cant just get enuf bonuses on a jst timezone

[finite valve]

oh non NA player heh

well sleep is for the weak anyway

[shy hazel]

i work so i need to sleep

[finite valve]

use your force of will to push through

[shy hazel]

meanwhile sandy and lex easier

👀

[hot creek]

where's bun bun

someone tell him to do his pvps pls https://puu.sh/CFUZn/284fcdd41e.png

[finite valve]

still not done rushing?

[hot creek]

not rushing

i want them b o n u s points

he already got gensui last reset anyways

[finite valve]

then just wait

[hot creek]

he's offline NotLikeThis

[sharp obsidian]

Done! Started 15 minutes late and missed one but finished at 9 😃

[hot creek]

fuck it, ill just rush gensui then. even though i'm confident ill end season top 10 anyways.

[sharp obsidian]

Post gensui is just merit point farming so chill mode on lol

[deft flicker]

does aurora skill works on eldridge???

[lofty smelt]

Yes, unless you mean during operation rainbow in which case no

[finite valve]

they should make a boat with a skill / buff nullifier

[deft flicker]

^

[shy hazel]

then youll see everyone use it so all skills wont work

pvp will be slugfest

[finite valve]

just mean there will be no 5 min lurker

work for me

[hybrid tendon]

rushing is rather easy

when there are ppl who have already got it last reset

they put on weak fleet so that you can blitz thru

[finite valve]

i always use weak fleet in def lel

[hybrid tendon]

i change to a hard fleet on rush day

just to delay them

for a few seconds

in other days its themed fleets

[finite valve]

<not generous enough to give free exp

zzz

[hybrid tendon]

a level 100 weak fleet

is the best for exp

[real notch]

all that green

[hot creek]

lol i got four +11's this reset

thanks, based gensui rush

[split socket]

complete opposite for me. Lost 4 points cause no one did their pvp :<

although was last reset

[coral wren]

Is 12784 the max fleet power u can get on amakaga?

With max aff

With proper pvp items

I was hoping it would reach 12.8:(

[odd schooner]

A lot of people at 15+ advantage maybe I'll give up end season this time

[coral wren]

Is there a list of how much power a certain item gives?

[gilded atlas]

can reach 13k

with amakaga

if oathed

[coral wren]

How

I have 200 aff on all of them

[odd schooner]

He's referring to double cata roon

[coral wren]

+10 gear and all maxed skills and only 2 purple items on each cv oil tank and helldiver

Oh

So with proper pvp gear u canr reach 13 😦

It feels so low when u see wasd with 13.5k

[odd schooner]

Should be 12795

With amagi on sg radar than beaver

[coral wren]

I use sg + fcr

[odd schooner]

I guess fox 200 isn't +67

[coral wren]

[odd schooner]

I'm still 20 affection away from maxing both

[coral wren]

If only there are gold oil tanks

And gold helldivers

[split socket]

u could use twin380mm gun on amagi for higher fleet power

[coral wren]

Lol fk no

[odd schooner]

I'll pass on that too

[split socket]

lol yes, it's perfectly valid

[coral wren]

Is it tho

[odd schooner]

+120 iirc

[split socket]

I switched from 410mm after trying 380mm

[gilded atlas]

double gold cata fcr + rader

[split socket]

it works a lot better in mirror matchup

cause everyone uses 410mm but 380mm is faster

[coral wren]

But what about shell dmg

[split socket]

AP does more dmg on ships iwth medium & heavy armor

[coral wren]

Burn dmg?

[split socket]

if u ignore ignition though

yes ik

but amagi still dies faster with 380mm

[coral wren]

Hmm

[split socket]

I've been trying it out for a while and it's been working better for me anyway

[coral wren]

Boy. Am I tempted to try lol

[odd schooner]

Just try

[split socket]

it's more important to shoot faster and sink enemys amagi than hope for some extra burn dmg, cause enemy amagi wont sink with fire

[coral wren]

How many main gun plates for gold main guns? After +6?

[odd schooner]

144

[coral wren]

I need 100 for my hais

Shieet. I only have 220 total

Time to dissemble some gold weps

I doubt I eill need 8 skc

12897

Hmm its like 1-2 secs faster

I dunno about this lol

[split socket]

by the 2nd or 3rd shell, u'll outpace the other amagi enough that she won't have time to shoot lol

[coral wren]

What kind of amakaga fight lasts 2+ shellings

Wth

[split socket]

ones with 0 procs 👌

[coral wren]

Legit

Lul

[hybrid tendon]

Themed

[vague token]

oh wait is that you? xD

ive seen that fleet lol

or maybe just someone else with that theme

[hybrid tendon]

[maiden agate]

Donald Trump using Amakaga lol

FeelsMetaSlaveMan

[odd schooner]

Ye he dumped his Washington smh

[vague token]

wait i didnt know amakaga hit basically 13k

xD

i need another debuff vanguard that isnt helena

and i already have aurora

hmm

[wise summit]

Amakaga shouldn't be hitting 13k tho

[vague token]

gold gun probably?

the 380?

[coral wren]

Its only 12.8 with gold gun

[vague token]

oh

o.O

[coral wren]

He must be using cata or bts

[vague token]

yeah

honestly double cata is probably fine

not like anyone can really anti air that strike xD

[wise summit]

Is there an argument for that gun

[vague token]

the 380?

[coral wren]

Honestly. I just +10 it like hour ago

[wise summit]

And the bonus damage from having more hp on suicide outweighs the aviation bonus generally

[coral wren]

Its like 1 sec faster than 410

[wise summit]

It's not about not losing the planes it's about them landing with as much hp on the end of the screen

[vague token]

i think it does more bottom slot damage

when you have more aviation for torp planes

you trade suicide on middle

for side torps

or vanguard dive bombs

who dont take suicide damage

[coral wren]

Its like 30 aviation vs 30 hp

[vague token]

like, not my thing

[coral wren]

More fleet power looks scarier tho xD

[vague token]

yeah, although it'll be 40ish times 2

because of the akaga skill

30 *1.35

on 2 carriers

i wouldnt say it's good but if it works for him

he is donald trump

xD

[coral wren]

First the sea. Then the space

[vague token]

plus it's still amakaga so

it's gonna hurt

whether it's BTD, double cata, w/e

too bad CA doesnt have a jintsuu buff ship, although i guess leipzig counts

[ivory vine]

i wish jintsuu worked for ca

[zenith tundra]

managed aotn with 5 attempts behind

[vague token]

[maiden agate]

If Jintsuu buff CA Ibuki would be even more insane

[ivory vine]

yeah that's the point

ibuki deserves to be t0

[maiden agate]

As if IJN doesn't have enough meta ships already

[ivory vine]

as if the devs give a shit about the pvp

[zenith tundra]

i like ibuki quite a lot but i think u wouldn't really use her for much outside of pvp. the only place she would shine is against elites tbh

[maiden agate]

Warspite's sniping skill after retrofit is pretty much tuned for Pvp lol

[zenith tundra]

ws is a pvp ship

with or without kai

[maiden agate]

Yeah the devs do care, if only a little about pvp

[zenith tundra]

amagi i think is pvp tuned too but she's so good she works for pve as well

[maiden agate]

Amagi is so broken she is good for everything

[shy hazel]

finally got aotn

fk this shit

aotn in avrora so stress

i feel so released

[zenith tundra]

i got it with 5 attempts behind so not that impossible, but the 5 battles were really bad for me to get it. 1st gurren comp took me 46secs to beat then 3 consecutive battles i got no amagi barrage on 1st shoot so more time wasted and last attempt having to get a +9 because of reset trolls

[shy hazel]

yeah i got lots of dem resets

problem for me this season is like

i didnt really have enuf bonus points

even with no losses

[ivory vine]

meanwhile on sandy i got it with like 6 or 7 missed games

[vague token]

i mean suicide amakaga is hyper rng

defense and offense

xD

[zenith tundra]

i think amakaga with torp front is pretty consistent at winning under almost any circumstances tbh

[vague token]

i mean there's a case where suicide their torps

beat you

because sometimes the rng says bye to whichever main fleet

otherwise yeah

20%

[zenith tundra]

i think i only lost or reset like 3 battles this season so even with really bad rng u should still be able to win

[ivory vine]

not if bad rng means one of your foxes eating 2 torp crits

[vague token]

i dont have jintsuu nor akagi so not an option

i have to rely on everything lining up atm

xD

[ivory vine]

[zenith tundra]

it's hard to lose anything on offense tbh

[nova storm]

I don't even know how I reached Admiral today.. I thought I wouldn't cause I overslept and didn't use 3 matches..

[vague token]

ark royal doesnt have her torp bombers in the right position?

lose

xD

[ivory vine]

[vague token]

eat too many torps at start?

loss

[ivory vine]

that's not suicide amakaga then

[vague token]

yeah, i dont have those

xD

[ivory vine]

but you said it's hyper rng

[vague token]

not as much on offense yeah, but if you dont mirror parts it is for them defense lol

[ivory vine]

def torps are dumb af anyway

[vague token]

honestly, it's just jintsuu

[ivory vine]

but then again maybe that's cuz im still using aya and beaver

[vague token]

without jintsuu torps arent scary

[ivory vine]

so my vanguard just runs it down

[vague token]

you can just tank through both the strike

and the opener

[ivory vine]

and eats every torp

[shy hazel]

i mean top memes in avrora

if your front doesnt get it

your back does

[ivory vine]

i didnt get aurora until new ships released

[shy hazel]

about 1/4 hp of all ships

[ivory vine]

so i still need to level her up and her skills

[vague token]

oh, and jintsuu also gives that reload buff

so that's annoying too

[odd schooner]

Ok so we have intern kun, quack kun and solo kun now

Maybe i should wait for my left side on giving +12

[hot creek]

that'll bite you

if the guy was sitting at 0/10

and currently 5/10

when he decides to not do pvps for a reset

[maiden agate]

Gensui rush failed on Washington server

I feel so dumb

[odd schooner]

I gotta check how big is the difference after getting hit by a +0 gain on 2nd reset day 1

[fallow marsh]

What's current PVP meta? Haven't done PVP for quite some while

[modern tree]

You will mostly see Amagi with Agagi and Kaga

[fallow marsh]

Last time I ranked is Washy, SD and enter

[modern tree]

and Washington South Dacota with a random third ship

2:1

[fallow marsh]

Ah so what's the vanguard?

Jintsuu, Aurora?

[modern tree]

Its either belfast juneau X for stalling or aurora jintsuu ayaya for torps

[fallow marsh]

Kaga BB or Kaga CV?

[modern tree]

sometimes foxes would run belfast to presumably break the mirror

CV kaga

[fallow marsh]

Ah thanks

[modern tree]

I have seen exactly one BB kaga

[fallow marsh]

Mine is still in level 1 lol

[modern tree]

mines at like 40 from doing random comissions, but yea

[fallow marsh]

The thing with PVP is that it takes so much time to switch gear

Which is annoying

[modern tree]

I actually think that boat is not that bad and it could totally work in the lineup by the virtue of torp spam and barrage being not awful

but its gonna be less consistent han preemptive strike with shitload of bonus power Kaga

[fallow marsh]

Well yeah, I may level her soon, but I got too many ships to train right now. Namely West Virginia, Amagi, POW...

And the cranes

[modern tree]

I'm working on KMS just to see how they do in pvp before they become actually impossible to use

[fallow marsh]

Well good luck, but see how the PVP is dominated by metas, I don't think KMS can stand a chance lol

[modern tree]

I think they will be fine, and if they wont be, I have things I have been doing forever either way

[shy hazel]

I mean

One can always choose to meme

Thing i know is

[wise summit]

i run Amagi/Akagi/Kaga with Belfast/Aurora/Jintsuu, even outside mirror match it feels like Belfast is a much more reliable boat than Aya

[shy hazel]

Well bel rly helps alot in strike

[odd schooner]

She has good torpedo stat

[near sparrow]

I think my problem with running Akagi + Kaga is the absolute overload on plane damage to the vanguard.

Running BB Kaga fixes this some while still allowing both her torps and barrage to splash into vanguard some. And Akagi does enough.

But I need to really get my score back up in the next season to start seeing how it plays out against better built fleets.

[modern tree]

I think 2BBs and CV is the best lineup for the main fleet in general provided the BBs have a way to pressure the backline outside of their guns, like barrages. BBKaga is honestly just fine for that. You still get to abuse the preemptive strike and fast Amagi barrage, with added benefit of your damage being a lot more focused once the frontline is dead. It probably works super well with how happily everyone suicides their frontlines nowadays because even if you lose yours, you have 2 BB auxes to clean up and then you might just straight up outgun your opponent.

[shy hazel]

Theres a good reason amagi nagato teams exists

Well in the near future

[kindred crypt]

Anything i need to change? I have pretty much every ship in the game

[modern tree]

yes, Laffey for Aurora

possibly Aya for Jintsuu but its a preference imho

Aurora does too much for the carriers, however while Laffey doesnt do much in general

[kindred crypt]

Aya for jintsuu kai?

Well idk if i want to change aya but ill change laffey to aurora

[modern tree]

its a preference, like I said. Ayanami has some neat benefits like DD speed and x factor of demon dance, Jintsuu is just a stable pick with her abilities boosting your entire front

All that matters is getting 4th IJN

[kindred crypt]

Kk ty

[prisma gale]

hi I have these ships

I was wondering whats a good fleet I can make with these ships

[gritty cove]

For pvp, not much you can do here right now, easiest would be to level up Amagi, kaga and akagi to just get those merits

I'd just worry about pve until you have more things

Based also on the ships, you prob don't have a lot of equipment either

[prisma gale]

uh I've been in fox mines

For a week now

I can try exchanging for enterprise

There's still 11 days or so

[glossy jay]

you dont even need foxes

[modern tree]

any fleet that you can make is probably going to be the highest level ships you have because ther's really not much more that you can do. Leveling Amagi and Hood, Portland Helena and Cleveland should be a decent investment for the future

[glossy jay]

i farmed foxes my first week and i still dont use them

🤢

[modern tree]

Should probably focus on getting ships for pve up first because otherwise you will never be able to farm gear/parts to level it

pvp is honestly in every possible way a side activity so dont worry too much about it

[gritty cove]

Pretty much

[prisma gale]

kk

Ty

[arctic blade]

amakaga, aurora/jintsu/aya = best pvp set up?

[modern tree]

It's the most popular at the moment so "best" would probably be something that beats it easily

[arctic blade]

isn't it the most popular because it's hard/can't be beaten?

[modern tree]

its popular because it wins games fast on offense but then you have to tank a mirror and that sucks

the mirror sucks especially badly because torps are better when defending

also, its nowhere close to "unbeatable" so I have no idea what warrants its popularity aside for "its fast dude"

maybe I am just a hipster tho

[split socket]

there are no comps that are unbeatable anyway with the 20% dmg buff on offense

[modern tree]

Nagato Akagi and Kaga were unbeatable on other servers for quite a bit, we do not have a lineup that forces playing a mirror or losing

[gilded atlas]

funny thing is it beats itself easily

[split socket]

hows the meta now in cn/jp? has nagato amagi + wildcard ijn completely taken over or is it mixed up?

[elder crane]

Overall, on EN, pretty much any of the top teams clearly wins on offense.
Amaka with torp-suicide-fl is the fastest of them all, so it's probably the "best" offense team right now
It works equally well with defensive frontline instead, but slower
WASDA/WASDE is as good as always better imo with torp/sui over defensive, but either works fine really
Have not tried WASDH yet, is next on list
Screw HMS until we get DoY

Recently, I've been trying out Amagi/Hiryuu/Enty as offense (Hood probably a fine sub for either Amagi or Ent), and with either suicide or stall frontline, to my surprise, it actually wins versus most anything (does especially well vs Akaga-type teams, which is what I originally designed it to target) with very high winrate, and a bonus of Hiryuu's 15 s immunity giving a much larger reset window in the rare case where things go really wrong

In other other news, woot, hit rank 4 (temporarily) even though I missed 4 PvP matches

[modern tree]

how do you keep Hiryuu alive in this lineup? I tried running it in wasd but she just gets triggered on second strike despite aegis so her niche is sort of useless

[elder crane]

Well, the team kills on 2nd strike, even without enty activations, and sometimes cripples (i.e. kills a ship) on 1st strike

[modern tree]

are you using Ryuusei on Hiryuu?

[elder crane]

Only times I've needed to reset is when Hiryuu procs on first strike wave (usually due to lucky torps) from non-converging torp teams (converging torps leave other ships on too high HP) and my return strike doesn't cripple

Nope, barracudas

[modern tree]

hm

[elder crane]

I place her in centre, opposite amagi, so my backline stays alive mostly evenly

the timings work out to her skill covering AKaga strike even if the 2nd amagi barrage procs her

15 s is a really long time

You might be right on her overall utility being low in WASD, if Aegis can't keep her unproc'd to 3rd strike wave

[modern tree]

I was just experimenting with weird carriers in this slot

the problem is that her damage is low so her only real utility is getting another strike and invuln, but it doesnt carrye nough weight in wasd I think

[elder crane]

Well, her skill basically gives her an extra strike per match if you need it, so I suspect she's better in non-grindy teams

[modern tree]

I kinda fell asleep doing it so I never tried Saratoga which I suspect might be just good enough, maybe

[elder crane]

With 2-strike matches, If she procs and enty fails to proc 1/2 times, my not-quite-yet-lv100 Hiryuu already often out-damages enty somehow

I'm not quite sure what's up with that actually

[modern tree]

thats probably untrue, Enterprise is like 50 aviation over her base and has better efficencies

[elder crane]

But, 3/2/3 is a better setup than 3/3/2 F/DB/TB for PvP

might be that Enty launches first, so AA effects

[modern tree]

its faster, but not "better" for what the carrier needs to do in wasd, which is clear out the front

[elder crane]

TBs are the main heavy-hitters, with their suicide damage
Well, that goes into "effective damage", damage numbers are highest vs backline ships but matter a bit less there

[modern tree]

yeah, its sort of the issue, wasd doesnt need this backline pressure from barracudas if the frontline is dead, which extra helldiver and extra efficencies on all the bombs are better at achieving

is basically my impression

[elder crane]

Hmm, interesting, that's opposite my impression that dmg vs enemy frontline barely matters with the sui/torp frontline, as long as yours dies fast enough BB secs make short work of any remaining enemy frontliners

[modern tree]

I am running Juneau Belfast Portland just so I can see how Portland is doing with the lineup

its okay

I am winning

which doesnt mean much at all

if I ran torps then maybe Hiryuu would be better, with converging torps too

just stack the backline damage

[elder crane]

Yeah, that's kinda the problem, winning happens too much to be able to easily tell nuances of choices apart

[modern tree]

I think that offense is slightly too easy atm, you can get away with basically anything

I have beaten HMS with wasd unicorn

[elder crane]

Well, HMS on def is kinda right now

[modern tree]

I have beaten wasd e with wasd unicorn too,

once

in like 7 tries

but it won

which makes me feel really bad about putting too much thought into optimising thins because it really doesnt seem to matter

you have competent backline and gear, you win

[elder crane]

well, I usually go by per-match winrate and match speed/time-per-win as my usual final metrics
The second is easy enough to get a mostly objective feel for
The first is nearly impossible to directly measure, so I just have to go with very subjective feelings

[split socket]

not everyone is running maxed out fleets either so it's hard to gauge

[elder crane]

To give an idea of how hard it is measure winrate by looking only at win/loss,
to tell a 70% winrate team from a 80% winrate team vs top teams (which are hard to identify to begin with) takes 30+ matches if you want to be reasonably certain about the conclusion

Which is why I laugh at anyone trying to do "objective" studies, and don't really take most conclusions (including my own) that seriously

[modern tree]

I will be honest, I went from trying to optimise to trying to find how close can you cut it to still win reasonably often, so I dont fall into the "farm akaga because its the best" hole

so far I have found that defense aint shit

so I am putting together a KMS just to see if you can actually just run whatever synergy

running out of bulins for purple ships tho

[elder crane]

How?

Well, just wait til next week's weeklies I guess

[modern tree]

I have almost all the retroifits, thats how I ate all my bulins

[ionic hill]

i want to be a cancerous eldridge user, what aux do i put on her?

[gritty cove]

Hiryuu is mostly there to launch twice with ryusei, hopefully towards the backline in most cases, works better than enterprise

[modern tree]

For Eldridge its probably just Boiler and Toolbox

[gritty cove]

On offense I can just wipe with akaga hiryuu because of the suicide dmg

[ivory vine]

for eldridge it's "dont use eldridge"

[modern tree]

and just saying Hiryuu is better than Enterprise doesnt make it so considering I have like 20 games of experience in the matter

[gritty cove]

Eldridge has been out memed

[modern tree]

Akaga just triggers her skill on the second strike through aegis and you have a dead boat

[gritty cove]

True, it really depends how the vanguad situation is, sometimes the sakura torps just go full pepega

[modern tree]

I tried it with stall and suicide, for some reason she just tanks all of the damage and getting hit by one torp just ends her hopes of doing much

[ivory vine]

hiryuu's stats are pretty trash before retro

[gritty cove]

You're screwed if their vanguard survives and manages to torp the backline and also if your frontline doesn't die fast enough

[modern tree]

its really weird because when I played against it she was surviving super long

[ivory vine]

[modern tree]

but saw it like once

maybe its better on defense where your vanguard just gets trashed

[gritty cove]

How much is your backline getting hit from torps at the start?

I assume not much at all since you're using boilers

[modern tree]

sodak never gets hit, my flanks eat like singular or no torps on opening, never get torped again

[ivory vine]

so how do i get my frontline to not just eat every torp?

[gritty cove]

[ivory vine]

should i not be running beaver on amagi?

w/ bel/aya/jint frontline

does aya w/ beaver just make them too fast?

[modern tree]

frontline eating all the torps is the best case scenario because they take reduced damage from them and have actual evasion to migrate the damage

backline just dies

[ivory vine]

yeah it's better than them hitting backline

but not if they eat

literally every torp

and die

[modern tree]

it doesnt happen a whole lot and if you eat all the opening torps you can just reset, whole 3 seconds of your life wasted

[gritty cove]

I wish wasd actually did more dmg

[modern tree]

I wish HMS did more damage

[gritty cove]

Heavy armor

What if they kept releasing stuff normally but just discarded nagato

[ivory vine]

i kinda want hiryuu kai to come before nagato

so i can play around with it w/o just running into namagi every time and losing

...actually i guess we still wouldnt have ykkz

so maybe i still could

[gritty cove]

Maybe if we had hms and mass/essex beforehand also

[shy hazel]

I jus want nagato so pvp becomes full bull

[odd schooner]

Tfw ppl started having problem with longer matches

And mirror matches

[elder crane]

Nakaga mirror is pretty painless I find overall, attacker almost always wins
Nothing like the hell that is WASDE mirror, which is all about skill activation %, and the occasional 3+ min Enty duel

[odd schooner]

Ye lmao one non proc means reset again

[elder crane]

[O W A R I D A]
[O W A R I D A]

well, that's 20 more seconds down the drain

[modern tree]

Could have just played HMS, never mirror, always win

Now it's pretty hard

[elder crane]

Well, WASDH was always a thing
WASDA being the new improved version of that setup

[odd schooner]

Only a few likes it

[elder crane]

Though we're in the meta where the attacker just consistently wins matches with any of a bunch of setups, with only the occasional reset
DoY likely makes HMS join that equally-viable list, I hope; I like variety

[odd schooner]

Hope so. Got a ring prepared for her too. Just need QE to 200 affection now

Time to delete tons of screenshots since i guess it's useless. ppl want longer matches anyways

[elder crane]

In any case, I've found my new favorite team when not Gensui rushing, since Hiryuu gives a nice, fat, predictable reset window

none of that losing matches to not being fully awake, hopefully

[prisma vessel]

Hello, should I equip anti torpedo bulge to all my vanguard ships for pvp?

[odd schooner]

@prisma vessel for CLs ye

Or CAs

that's a lot lmao

[prisma vessel]

So, anti torpedo bulge is better than repair tools?

Also, what other gear should I equip on vanguard ships for pvp?

[odd schooner]

Well standard aux for CLs are repair tools + bulge

Beaver badge + bulge for CAs

[prisma vessel]

For DDs?

[odd schooner]

Double box

Or

Tools + boiler

Or

Tools + pearl

[modern tree]

I just ran like an hour of testing for hms vs decked amakaga and there are 2 problems with the lineup that make it barely possible to run. You can't snipe a fox before second strike because Amagi exists and you cant keep your vg alive for the second strike. You win every game in which you manage either of those, but lose about everything else.

[odd schooner]

Amagi blue and yellow skills

[modern tree]

If you could use a carrier to wipe opponents vg before second strike you would win every game with hms, but we have like Ark, and that's it

I could try it I guess

[odd schooner]

No i mean

Your backline often miss?

Or DMG isn't enough

[modern tree]

Second strike happens before second hood barrage, and because of the evasion, you can't reliably snipe a fox without getting lucky with mgm shots

Where's my Warspite kai, damnit

[odd schooner]

I find AL rng on the weird side tbh

[modern tree]

And I do have whole main fleet at 200 affection so there's actually no way that I know of to get more damage

[odd schooner]

Like 40% proccing more than 70

[modern tree]

Maybe Ark is just the answer

Now I need to know

[odd schooner]

Ark double cuda right

[modern tree]

Double Cuda Fulmar so it launches just before QE fires

Ark is more consistent than Warspite

But here is the real thing that makes you win the matchup

Fucking totally unironic Autoloader on Hood

It makes her fire just fast enough to kill a fox before second strike

Then I will learn that this guy used some weird fighters and it doesn't actually work against anyone else. Stupid weapon skins

I hate them so much

[nova storm]

The Tactical Advantage of Weapon Skins

[hot creek]

using suseis to get millsecond faster launch

[gritty cove]

@hot creek Oath your ships, ree

[hot creek]

I'm on a budget here m8. I only oath if I really like them or if they are OP in both pve and pvp.

well, I guess Amagi fits that bill. but meh. I don't like her design very much.

[gritty cove]

I feel ya, tbh

Atleast the money isn't going to summons

[hot creek]

when I was a working, i dropped like $250 on Fire Emblem gacha. still regret that

now i'm cheap af.

[gritty cove]

I had that with the db dokkan

[hot creek]

yeah there's nothing that will ever get me to spend on gacha ever again

unless its for garaunteed reward

[gritty cove]

[hot creek]

if i do maxumim AA memes with the two new maids. would it actually do anything to stop foxes I wonder.

[coral wren]

[split socket]

maybe, but then you'll get shredded by torps :x

[hot creek]

i just realized they only have 80% efficiency with AA anyways

seems kinda shit

[ivory vine]

it's not just the 80% eff

the stat isnt super high either afaik

[hot creek]

they're so cute, wish they weren't so useless

[pastel forge]

go Isuzu instead if you wanna meme with aa

[cosmic stratus]

<

[modern tree]

It's actually easier to keep my front alive vs Amakaga, when playing HMS. To the point that I am stealing wins by torping the last fox in the face while everyone is dead. I think something went wrong somewhere

It's probably just HMS backline having no AA to speak of sans Hood. It's still strange to see

[zenith tundra]

everyone is sandbagging so hard can't seem to get any bonus. not that it matters but still so annoying

[modern tree]

This late in the season it's easier to farm your rerolls than just wait for a miracle.

[split socket]

craptastic system 😐

[zenith tundra]

i'm 5 behind and still no one moves in my list

[modern tree]

You must have some amazing competitive drive to still be concerned with farming points after dropping 5 games and getting gensui

[zenith tundra]

i never looked at my rank at the end of a season before so i want to see it now

if i can get anything top 300 i'll be happy

[split socket]

feels so pointless when ur endscore isn't recorded anywhere

[modern tree]

You can screenshot it, that's what I do

Nobody but me has to know what I did because I am doing it for nobody else

[zenith tundra]

with another 20 attempts before season end i can get 2547 pts

with all +10

[hot creek]

do it for the fans

Cintiq has a three point lead on us

but i don't see any other rankers around us

he'll probably take 1st barring he doesnt fuck up final day

but three points isn't all that much of a buffer on final day tbh

[odd schooner]

So who's gonna bet if it's Famine again this season

[modern tree]

I hate feeling that I dropped a game somewhere but I can't remember

[hot creek]

i always remember my losses for the season. I get chills down my spine and a distinct feeling of "fuuuuuuuuuck" whenever I see that "D Annihilation"

followed by a feeling of relief cause i don't have to tryhard anymore

and then i still tryhard anyways lol

[modern tree]

Which is why I am so bothered that whenever I check the ledearbord on the reset.I dont think I lost anything, but you are still at exactly my points. I am either doing something wrong or I need to start killing my sleep for 3am resets

[hot creek]

perhaps we'll have to start tracking our early season performance

[subtle whale]

im at 11th place

out of tries

[odd schooner]

I'm currently tracking how big is the point difference on screwing day 1 pvp

So far it's 20 points from fren's last season points

A total of 6 resets without gain

And one -1

1 reset fron day 1
1 from +20 days
1 from +12 days
And the rest on +10 days

[odd schooner]

[modern tree]

+4 on this reset, I am feeling rather confident in my ability to take nr1 despite my apparently shitty season start

[hot creek]

meanwhile, im still stuck at 10/10 cause nobody's movin NotLikeThis

actually, right most guy did his pvps

but its not enough

rip

[modern tree]

I used 2 rerolls to get that so it's actually all skill.

[hot creek]

im too spooked to use my rerolls this early

i save them for last reset to avoid a +8

[modern tree]

I am gonna save one or two, but I am unlikely to need all five. Besides, if I roll +8 into +9 then I gain exactly as many points as I would rolling 10 into 11

math checks out

[odd schooner]

You can get a constant +3s without resetting on ast day

[modern tree]

on your server

we are on Sandy

This season actually nobody got gensui on first reset it was possible in. Nobody went for it in 6 hours

[odd schooner]

That bad

[modern tree]

and not like all of those people are omega tryhards

[odd schooner]

[modern tree]

Sandy has its own pvp rules. Avrora is more populated and competitive about this whole pvp thing. I know about every name I see in top 100 right now and I probably have enough fingers on my both hands to count the ones that will play, everyone else is alredy done or gonna camp until last second

[hot creek]

finally. someone did their pvp

[gritty cove]

Memorizing azur lane pvp names

[leaden sequoia]

you can also remember names on Washington to some extent, same people everytime on top 10-ish

[hot creek]

just blew two refreshes, couldn't hit the sweet spot

but I did land on Blackie

hopefully he hasn't done his pvps yet

[bold egret]

What's the pvp meta team currently?

[modern tree]

Its the same it has been since FW, you play foxes or wash and sodak and if you have way too much time on your hands, you can try HMS

[bold egret]

Amagi didnt change it or anything?

[knotty parcel]

Amaga jintsuu aya aurora belfast

is op

[modern tree]

Amagi made Foxes a little better but it's still same old

Also, no matter how OP Amakaga seems to be, they cant run 4 ships in the VG

[urban coral]

lmao

[modern tree]

The only thing that really changed is that HMS will struggle to get wins, so if you are an unfortunate soul that missed both Crimson Echoes and FW, you are stuck grinding your ass off to get weird boats and gear

[odd schooner]

[leaden sequoia]

I think QE/Hood/Enty:Belfast/Aurora/Leander should work pretty well as (nearly) HMS as enemy vanguards are mostly DD and CL

I don't have Hood and my Aurora is underleveled though, so I've got Rodney and Javelin as replacements instead, and I could get to Admiral with them

[odd schooner]

I would suggest slapping a juneau

[leaden sequoia]

yeah, leveling Juneau right now just for that

currently lvl 56

[odd schooner]

She has high anti air doesn't need queen's buff

She actually took out my Edinburgh before

[modern tree]

Juneau Belfast Leander are actually tanky enough with QE buff to survive longer than the main fleet

[odd schooner]

I was never the same ever since

[leaden sequoia]

also leveling Arizona and Oklahoma for the Pearl's Tears

[modern tree]

You can probably afford running Belfast Fortune Leander if you wanna be a purist, all that really matters is Hood shooting fast enough to 2x barrage a fox before second strike

you can just rely on that

VG doesnt matter much then

Obviously if you run a carrier or get lucky you can one barrage a fox and win this way. It is possible that cutting QE out of HMS for flagship enterprise is proper, but I have not tested it and I dont have a fleet to run this into atm

[leaden sequoia]

forgot to tell, I got Amagi lvl 99, will use her next season since I messed up this one already by not pausing and exiting in the split second my ships died way too many times curses slow fingers

and carrier foxes are at lvl 90 and 86, but not enough gold bulins to mlb them

so I think I'll switch to Amakaga + Ayanami + Aurora + Leander for torp-based frontline if they show promising results, but this will require getting Jintsuu afterwards for better torpedo performance

and swap out Leander for Juneau when the enemy fleet is tough enough

[split socket]

@modern tree lol, did u actually check? I took gensui with 2-3h left, saw plenty of other ppl taking gensui as well on the first reset it was possible

ik cause I lost 4 pts taking it while everyone was still hanging around 218x...

[modern tree]

[split socket]

[modern tree]

ye ur right, I stopped checking after 3 hours because I fell asleep, I should not have exaggerated quite this much because someone was going to call me out on it

[gritty cove]

Nah you're quite right

There were 8-9ppl on gensui after 5-6 hours

I don't think that really counts as "plenty"

[modern tree]

less than 10 people is not even enough to make it impossible for anyone to get it, just get the points, you are there

we live on a weird server

[gritty cove]

Isn't the rank limited to the first 10 people

I'm not sure

[modern tree]

You do have to hit top 10, but if less than 10 people are at 2200, then you get top 10 after reaching the points required for gensui

so it wasnt contested at all, you just hit the point requirement and there you have it

woo

[gritty cove]

Sandy really is the true meme

[split socket]

as long as u hit top 10 and have at least 2200 pts, u get gensui. Doesn't matter order :p

[native mantle]

@modern tree wada have HMS to do with much time on the hands?

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/CGKRF/728f07ec65.png top kek

[modern tree]

using the lineup is time consuming because figuring out the correct ships might require a lot of swaps, bizarre gear and resets because you just got unlucky

they work just fine, you can beat anthing with them without changing the lineup

I have entire backline at 200 affection and I can afford to play them without dork and I am unsure if Dork will actually help absolutely anthing without even weirder choices than Reloader on Hood to kill a fox faster

Juneau Belfast Leander really fucks with foxes tho, insanely much

dont know if you can run it in any lineup because QE buff is probably significant, but oh boy, they just dont sink to anything foxes can do

Funnily enough, Dork has even shittier AA than Warspite, which is rather bad unless she can pump way more damage

But yeah "too much time on your hands" basically means all of the above, it's still a line to go if you missed all the events or just hate playing event ships, but boy, does it require WORK when you could just slap 2 foxes together and call it a fleet

[hot creek]

2 foxes and an aurora

[strange shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/270787651978788864/541713944377557022/image0.png
the wall falls once again

🤔

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/270787651978788864/541713921652949034/image1.png

[analog hare]

Nothing unbeatable in exercise

[vague token]

it's kinda sad how close that fight is

even with the 20%

lol

[ivory vine]

there are so many mirrors i reset that i prob would win

just cuz it's too close for comfort

[elder crane]

I think Juneau is better than Bel in the Amkaga mirror, at least for offense
With that sub, I've almost never had to reset, with every win being pretty clear

[pearl nimbus]

Is it just me or does Amakaga just seem to work better when Amagi is bot?

[modern tree]

foxes are softer so putting her on the flank in a mirror might actually let you snipe the backline instead of playing for the usual 2 strikes gameplan

because nothing is there to stop the barraga and plane suicide will still happen

[vague token]

depends on luck with cuda torps

middle is usually screened a bit

so you take suicide damage mostly

bottom wont eat suicide but gets hit by cuda easily

and amagi has uh... less than stellar aa

[shy hazel]

Funny thing i remember once

Sandy with noca wiped my planes but my vanguard wiped their team

[elder crane]

Also, Amagi centre has her barrage hit the frontline more (since her barrage also splashes the enemy frontline)

[timber plinth]

is amagi cranes better than amagi foxes
or same

[elder crane]

In PvP, worse, cranes take too long to power up in the short length of PvP matches

They need at least 1.5 min to reach the same damage potential, which is wayy too long

[hot creek]

umm....did Daxam forget to do his pvps? monkaS

[shy hazel]

So season reset is upon us again

Do we get bonus points from the very first fight

I dont even know

[hot creek]

you certainly can

[shy hazel]

So i need to wait till ppl have so much more ranks before i do first fight i guess?

[modern tree]

Hell yeah I slept over my charges again because 3 am is a perfect hour to have a reset. See you next fucking season. Good night.

[shy hazel]

[elder crane]

I prefer to skip waiting on the first fight and try to catch people climbing after 1 win
Soooo many people are inactive/wait on PvP

[shy hazel]

Icic so u can get highest bonus points twics

If u wait

Unless rng hits u i guess

[pastel forge]

you can either do 1 fight first or refresh until you know there is active people in your list

[shy hazel]

Ooo tyty

U can get bonuses five times per daily reset right

Or more than that early rounds?

[elder crane]

You can get + whenever the person you fight is above you in pt count by some amount (for start-of -season, amount is unknown, but you don't know their pt count either so w/e)

At start of season +2/3 or even the occasional +4 is possible

[pastel forge]

honestly I haven't really test around on early days, usually I just wait with 10/10 till the last few mins and get that big delicious numbers

[subtle whale]

guys

i did it

i got cucked

[elder crane]

If you play it right, an average of more than +1 per match is possible for the first few days

[subtle whale]

[elder crane]

I thought I might get cucked this season, having missed 4 matches
Still somehow hit rank 1 during one of the rushes

[shy hazel]

I did my charges per hour last season

[pastel forge]

basically my goal, trying to somehow get more than +40 not sure if possible

[shy hazel]

But i never managed to get so mch bonus

I think im doing somethinv fundamentally wrong

Never lost too

[elder crane]

tbh as a long as you do them all and win (assuming you don't take -1 matches of course), gensui should be easy to get with a rush during a later reset

[shy hazel]

Got gensui this season

But kinda want more stable way

My team isnt that fast for rushes

[dark nova]

I might have blocked OJ from his gensui then cause I was spending my attacks

[elder crane]

I'm at 2513 right now, so can't blame me

[shy hazel]

Im at top 40+ once i use all charges now

No blame me

[dark nova]

[static flame]

For pvp purposes what would be the best secondary gun to equip to Amagi?

[shy hazel]

Isnt it always gold dd gun

[static flame]

That's what i'm currently running but I thought I'd ask to see if there was a better alternative

[elder crane]

Belgun gives better firepower and provides more shelling on enemy frontline when yours is still alive due to longer range and higher burst
That burst means it cleans up leaked frontline ships just as well
But, if your frontline decisively loses,the gold 127 is better
The 127 also helps a bit with its AA stat

[pastel forge]

you can use triple 152 if you want to poke enemy (aka on offense), but generally people use belgun or 127 twin

[elder crane]

I personally prefer the belgun, but it really doesn't matter too much

In case you haven't heard yet, the in-game listed gun range are lies, true gun-range is the same for all the viable CL guns, and every DD gun is shorter range than that (the DD guns do have different ranges, but still not what's listed in-game)

[static flame]

Cool, thanks for the info. I'l mess around with swaping my twin 127 and the Belgun and see what I like more.

[shy hazel]

I hab few belguns so i just use 127 on all my backline bb bcs

[elder crane]

Exact opposite for me, more than enough Belguns (since I prefer the tbtsk/triple 152) but never enough gold 127s

[halcyon hill]

Is doing pvp right after season reset worth it?

[zenith tundra]

does anyone know how many points u get without bonuses in a season?

i can do that i'm just lazy

2496 with base gain without bonuses

i have 2552 with 5 less attempts so 106 bonus points this season

[empty sinew]

do exercise rounds carry over season reset?

like normal resets or nah

[odd schooner]

nah

everyone starts at 5/10

[empty sinew]

so if i have 2/10 left, then season resets

it goes to 5/10 yeh

[zenith tundra]

yes

[dark nova]

use them all, get them merits

[hot creek]

lol i just went up against you https://puu.sh/CGXGA/533ba40940.png

[empty sinew]

lol noice

mirror Amakaga for days

[zenith tundra]

can't wait for doy. either people start using hms or i start suing it

[split socket]

I for one love this meta, no more stalling wasd so pvp is much faster now

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/CGXLe/2367c491c9.png why do i get the feeling Cintiq is sitting on one charge right now

[zenith tundra]

mirror is unfun tbh

[split socket]

pvp is unfun

doesn't matter mirror or not lol

[zenith tundra]

for u maybe i liked it before everyone used amakaga

[empty sinew]

i just like amakaga cuz it's fast

[zenith tundra]

i just don't like the mirror i have nothing against amakaga

[hot creek]

the mirror is ez tho

[empty sinew]

tru dat

and consistent af

[zenith tundra]

unless u get hard fucked by rng and ur vanguard dies in 2 secs

[hot creek]

that does happen, but not that often. ive only had to reset the mirror only two or three times this season.

[split socket]

if ur vanguard dies in 2 secs, then it has nothing to do with amakaga lol

might as well have been a wasd backline with torp front

[zenith tundra]

i really hope qe hood doy will be viable

and hope sirius is not got for pvp

[hot creek]

I'm betting she wont

too little slots for her

[ivory vine]

who would you even replace for her is the problem

[zenith tundra]

for jp/cn she most likely isn't but who knows on en

less torp rng more akaga dmg

[ivory vine]

just gimme sendai pls

[zenith tundra]

sendai is just another torp boat i don't want her at all even if want w11

[analog hare]

New season, are you going to sandbaging or just attack once time ??

[zenith tundra]

i want to try early 1 attempt

like as soon as season starts

[split socket]

Sirius seems like a good aurora substitute, especially for amakagas comps

[zenith tundra]

maybe for full defensive vanguards but for offensive ones aurora still too good

[split socket]

yea, I think aurora is still better, but for ppl who are unlucky and still don't have her, sirius will be a good enough replacement

she also has slightly higher AA and bit more hp, so theres that. Not sure if it matters too much tho

[zenith tundra]

i would run like aurora sirius jintsuu on def to try

[empty sinew]

imma replace jintsuu

bel sirius aurora, +akaga damage trading for a -torp buff and -first amagi salvo

[modern tree]

Man, everyone's score sucks too. I want my 2 charges back

[hot creek]

feelsbadman. I didn't want to take 1st like this

[modern tree]

I probably should have expected that I will fall asleep playing my pvp out at 2 am and then sleep through an alarm

Oh well

I lost 2 charges that are enough to take 1st even at 8 on both

That's what I get for being human.

But hey, we are at the top again. All luck, am I right?

[hot creek]

aren't you in EST?

[odd schooner]

could try again next season

[modern tree]

Cet

[hot creek]

Oh that makes a lot more sense

[modern tree]

HMS is way better than I thought they would be, but Amagi is still probably the most unfun boat to go against

[azure aurora]

I hate wasd amagi

Feel like foxes natural enemy

[modern tree]

Also, noticed something interesting today, which is that CL guns on BBs are still bound by firing angles so if your boats sneak behind them, they are not getting shot at anymore. Sounds useless but might be a difference between facetorping them or not

CL guns are stat sticks saga continues

[dull hollow]

the hiryuu experience

tho with this mirror you only lose if you dont get more barrage procs

[odd schooner]

does it need both amagi and nagato or nagato barrage is more important

[dull hollow]

just need good rates from both

[modern tree]

What a boring way to play, there's the best team and it also wins tje mirror rather decisively

[dull hollow]

mirror is actulaly pretty president sleeper

but that's every mirror

where u have to rly on barrages

lmfao

junny's like "fuck my job im going home today"

[coral wren]

[odd schooner]

[real notch]

ayy lmao

i ended the season at rank 2400

OMEGALUL

[odd schooner]

this season

Lmao

[vague token]

o.O

that's a lot of points xD

[odd schooner]

yeah

imma tell sumire a bit brb

[livid fractal]

I lose 3 games just now

[odd schooner]

what

i was waiting for you or donald trump

[livid fractal]

I didn't pay attention since I was eating lunch lool

[odd schooner]

i see

but are you full with what you ate

[livid fractal]

Yeah full and upset

at this point, I can say that amagi foxes is cancer mirror match

Pretty much even, 20% attacker doesn't even matter

Its pretty much even at this point

[odd schooner]

Ok I'm done after all those +0 gains

depends who get bomb

ye it was always clutch

like im ready to close the app if it went south

[analog hare]

New season, are you going to sandbaging or just attack once at the first time ??

[livid fractal]

For me, if someone attacks and aims higher rank then I'll attack him then sandbag again..

I don't like sandbagging during 6 hour period

[odd schooner]

gonna attacc when they push

hope i wont get that +0 gain on day 1 again like this season

lmao he's very consistent on 2602

[lament lichen]

am 4th lol

[odd schooner]

grats

lmao the upload is jumbled

[zenith tundra]

i was top 100 from what i saw like 61

not bad with 5 less attempts i guess

i got a nice +-256 by attacking nr6 after reset. nice bug

[odd schooner]

so how much are you at right now

[hot creek]

im 2/10, 88 points rn

[zenith tundra]

it was a mere +25 but interesting visual bug

[coral wren]

Hmm

where is izurich?

Oh cmon, don't tell me he fucking left

[odd schooner]

i think he did

his name appears on the other server tho

[coral wren]

On unofficial one? Allrighty, thanks!

[hot creek]

wonder why he left

I didn't mind having him around

anyone who has a oathed QE is good in my book

[ivory vine]

[shy hazel]

Reeww

CaNt decide

If i should attack nao

Or wait for more bonus chnce

[coral wren]

probably got in an argument with mod, just like that one enty fanboy. Over censorship offtopic

[ivory vine]

i tried doing 1 game cuz last time i didnt get a bonus

go some bonus from the 2nd game

this shit is literally just rng tho

[shy hazel]

I mean rank distance matters right

[ivory vine]

points matter

but you have to get someone that does their pvp in your lobby

[shy hazel]

Yup

My leftmost 100

Im only rank 1.3k