I have Aya, too, and recently married her
#pvp
narrow grove
Typical loadouts for them as well? Or is pvp gear generally the same as pve?
I can do juneau, aurora, belfast, just gotta powerlevel the first two during my next fox mining trip
subtle whale
donut aa if possible
for aux
beaver on aurora
pearl on belfast
toolbox on the 2nd slot for them
juneau go double hp aux
this doc have gear guide for ships
also recommends the non jp gear
narrow grove
double hp aux means dual toolbox, right?
narrow grove
I've been using this equipment guide so far: http://azurlanesanctuarygrossweebskeepout.blogspot.com/2018/09/azur-laneen-in-depth-equipment-guide_13.html
Dunno how accurate it is
Thanks for the help, btw!
narrow grove
Will do. Thanks 
swift echo
lunar veldt
Bkaga
modern tree
And Helena
lunar veldt
Solo Ikkousen 
modern tree
Nice flex tho
swift echo
Helena & Cleve has anti-torp + fire extinguisher
real notch
heh
clear cloud
Typical HMS 
swift echo
cygnet?
clear cloud
fortune kai
clear cloud
stuck at 2k rank 
swift echo
vague token
amagi center o.o
wise summit
In solidarity I will amagi center too
azure aurora
Same
thick onyx
Should I use all quad mag torp or should I add in the rainbow quint mag torp along with 2 quad mag for pvp?
thick onyx
Cos the quint mag reloads slower than quad and has wider spread
So I'm not sure if I should use it
I haven't used ayaya in pvp before lol
Feels like I'll be pissed if her torps miss tho
What's your vanguard with ayaya. Jintsuu and aurora?
That's your offense?
I just switched to amagi akaga haven tried them yet
Cos skills not maxed doesn't feel good to put in amagi
Aurora so hard to get lol
lunar veldt
Just keep rolling
thick onyx
Mine is 9r7b7y sl right now
That's why I put her in
I missed couple hours from her skills due to managing sleep time T.T
I was trying to get her ready for the gensui rush
Luckily it seems I'm in time lol
I just mix both to stagger volley
I nv tried 406 on amagi tho how's it
Hmm maybe I'll try both myself too next season
livid fractal
Can 37 rank points difference can give me +1 ?
livid fractal
elder crane
On aya it's closer to 15% due to her high base torp, but yeah, it's very significant.
I'm running Aya/Jint/Poi for Max torp memes (given the ships I have available) and I've seen every so often 2 ships get deleted immediately, which is hilarious
Juneau is probably better but I want to meme, aurora is definitely better but I don't have her, Bucky might be better but I don't have her leveled.
Poi I have Max oathed for the oath skin
coral wren
Damn... the second chance of getting oxy torp will be when the research is given to us?
modern tree
How hard are poi barrage torps hitting in pvp
You can probably get a lot of them with the blue telescope
hot creek
poi has a good barrage?
woah. she does
that is quite exceptional. didn't even realize those type of barrages can launch torps
honestly you don't even need auroura for max torp memes, that shit is still scary even without 20% evasion debuff
leave them on defense and they can snipe people's backline.
supple stratus
Best place to put a ship to die for Pvp?
rear or front of vanguard?
I've got someone frailer than Juneau cause lower level tho
Best PvP vanguard for HMS fleet?
I'm using Juneau, Aurora, Belfast
odd schooner
Hmmm not sure about best
Would depend on your enemy
More or less Belfast + Juneau + Wildcard <= in that order
rose moat
Eldridge or helena in the wildcard for me
prisma gale
Amagi or hood
prisma gale
kk ty
arctic ember
pink hair meta 
modern tree
Houston, Spence, Atlanta, McCall for front, but rngr is a redhead and I do not think there are other backliners
modern tree
Oh, someone asked about HMS, great. The most successful vanguards you can put together for this team would be Belfast Jintsuu Aurora if you like fast games and living dangerously, or Belfast Juneau Fortune, if you like safe games and winning without resetting a lot. Fortune might be a little outdated at this point and if more people play torps than not, Cygnet or Leander will vastly outperform her because smoke. Also playing defensively might be outdated at this point because it becomes harder and harder to trade damage favourably; while Warspite is great and will outdamage Hood a lot of the time, her barrage is not explosive enough and presence of Amagi makes it more of a joke than it already is. Dealing with the front asap just trades better, when all your guns target backline and stuff
Next event after we get Yat Sen for Chinese New Year is Duke of York so prepare for that
lunar veldt
might as well give us Ning/Ping Hai's retrofit while they are at it
modern tree
I can't assume that. They recorded voice for Yat Sen and are rerunning moon rabbits, so we are 100% getting her. No clue about kais
coral wren
Is purple SB2C helldiver on Enterprise the best dive bomber?
Or are there any better ones?
modern tree
There are no better divebombers in the game currently
coral wren
so i‘ll 10+ my helldiver on enty then
modern tree
When you care about damage
I guess you can be looking for utility or fleet power flexing values
But Helldivers pretty significantly outperform other planes in this slot
coral wren
So you‘d rather to max my purple helldiver on Enty?
modern tree
Enterprise only cares about damage so yes
If your owari da does not leave them owari dead then you might owari die and its overy bad
coral wren
I‘ll do it then
real notch
owari die 
modern tree
I just realized its gensui in 2 hours
I cant wait for nobody to go for it on Sandy again
real notch
yea, same on avrora
i mean gensui being available
xd
for me it's still another 2 resets
kek
odd schooner
You missed a lot?
modern tree
I am glad none of the resets happen when I work so I dont have to drop everything I do and run to grab my phone every day, instead I just cant farm one that happens at 3am. Dont get a job, kids. 
coral wren
What happens in 2 hours i‘m confused
modern tree
It will be possible to get 2200 points and if you also hit top 10, you are done with the season
hardest 2500 merits of your life, right there
elder crane
1 and 2/3 to be exact, since 1.5k pts per box.
Or, 1.25 cubes, at 2k per cube
Or, 1/6 of a gold bulin
I'm busy next few H, so I'll likely miss the initial rush. In fact, will be busy during initial rush for next few months likely... 
dull elm
well with 20+ points spare dont even need initial rush
elder crane
Yeah, and initial rush isn't the easiest (I find the last midnight rush is the easiest)
I wonder if 19 pts is enough to still make it 2.5h after start
dull elm
i think last time i went to gensui 3 hours after rush casual top 10
well depends how hard people have been sandbaggin
elder crane
Maybe I'll pick up a few more +1 along the way!
And I'm in Avrora, so.... 
dull elm
sandbagging during gensui rush ♿
modern tree
#sandy 
dull elm
well cant attack anyway or i lose massive amount of points
modern tree
on sandy there is no gensui rush
reset after that, maybe
but on first chance, nobody goes foir it
nobody
last time there were like 7 people at gensui after 3 hours
lmao
dull elm
lol
gritty cove
modern tree
nobody played their reset games so far
I feel like going for it but I likely have enough points to get it at end of season anyways so eeehhh
gritty cove
Never tried sandbagging until this season, didn't go well
modern tree
need a tight schedule to sandbag because it's rather easy to forget games
I never really commit to it because I miss one reset doe to timezone
but like
getting extra points once or twice per reset is really easy
just play before the reset not right after
modern tree
are people getting tired of this steelmate?
gritty cove
@modern tree Spotted
modern tree
I never have to flex my fleet 
strange shuttle
top badge on first reset its possable to do so
how do we gear the new meta? since i gotta move all my gear around now might as well do it right
modern tree
what do you mean by the new meta
modern tree
on Akamagi you want the beaver on Aurora probably because her surviving until you fox them is pretty good
strange shuttle
its about even i think i onyl retied that once but they had rings
modern tree
I have considered dumping SG for beaver on Amagi, its probably good
dull elm
What i use. Heal too stronk. 💪
strange shuttle
what about fighters wise for the foxes?
dull elm
modern tree
Fighters is standard Reppu/Pirate first choice, anything with 500 lb bomb second
modern tree
FCR has ACC on it and it is concievable you are overstacking it with SG, but I would have to do math on it and also know her luck
strange shuttle
your fox power levels are too high, do you use steam/oil for aux on foxes?
dull elm
i want that hit
modern tree
Cata with Oil is standard on foxes for the time being, yea
gritty cove
Someone sell me couple golden sg radars 
modern tree
and Beaver FCR is more eva than SG FCR
dull elm
Maybe finally uploads ♿
modern tree
Its the gold one, I dont think thers a point of discussing purple one with only one BB in fleet
hot creek
reach w6 hard mode and you can farm SGs while doing hard dailies at 6-1
dull elm
I dont need beaver on Amagi if Juneau heals her to full HP
hot creek
I'm not going for it this time, cause I know I'll be #1 at the end of season anyways
dull elm
my max 2221. My nolife level is weaker than some
modern tree
I'd rather not show what my best score was
its so unhealthy high
about as much as my sleep schedule for that one
dull elm
gotta go casual for next anyway since IRL will call
modern tree
my list has not moved, still only one person in gensui, Sandy server the strongest
dark nova
got my top 10, time to slack
livid fractal
2214 for me, would be 2224 if I didn't lose one game
Oh well, got what I wanted
Aim for higher rank so people can't get in top 10
dull elm
dull elm
and then rush next resets too to fk em over more
modern tree
I wish getting gensui was just about grabbing it, Sandy is slo slow that I'd probably need to tank like 3 8-9 games to get it and that just feels bad when I can starre at the leaderboard and wait
ouch
livid fractal
Well you spent days sandbagging, might as well screw others.. There's no such thing as give chance to others
hot creek
HMS defense actually doing something? wew
modern tree
What a chanel for a confession like this
I can imagine standard stall-ass HMS doing alrighish vs amagi with torp meme, especially if they have Leander/Cygnet smoke
modern tree
at -400 you probably see nothing but Hood Lusty Enterprise with Eugen
hot creek
https://puu.sh/CyLlc/0fa823b885.png roricon baka
modern tree
bite me
hot creek
I see you're into that type of play
modern tree
I am into "top 100 on every leaderboard" type of play
except the one that is just wallet flexing
fuck that one
modest osprey
Ooof. S. Dakota and Washington builds are wrecking me. Maybe it is time to retire Hood/Kaga/Akagi and switch. What ship is best to pair with S Dakota / Washington in the main fleet?
modern tree
Wash and Sodak goes best with Enterprise, Amagi, Hood or t0 tits if you are brave enough, in that order probably
Hood is kind of outdated, yea, but I cant assume everyone has every ship, options are great
hot creek
its okay, I want to be bitten by Vampy too
hot creek
CVs wrecking WASD? I can't imagine that 
modern tree
if you wipe their front with akaga strike then Enterprise wins game
if you dont, then enterprise cleans house and 2nd fox strike wins game
only lose vs unfortunate Juneaus
hot creek
has anyone actually ever used Benson for pvp purposes?
god I want a Benson so badly, I actually like her character
dull elm
@hot creek some guy i know has used complete waifu tier bote so he used benson
bitter escarp
what % increase is it? if its big enough it could be decent
hmmm so does that make a lucky E strike actually do 230% damage
dull elm
he had like very wierd setup complete anti meta fleet
bitter escarp
yeah while not the most viable thing in the world, it looks like a half decent thing to try out for fun
hot creek
wasted so many cubes recently in light trying to get her. she's a goddamn myth
bitter escarp
just the way i like it
i pulled my first benson when i was hunting for aurora, before that the only benson i had was from the login reward
hot creek
i keep getting baited by these 27:00 timers too
and its just a starter DD
or fucking Juno
bitter escarp
hmm it says does not stack with same skill which means more ships have the skill right? what other ships increase air strike damage
it says Ardent has the same skill but shes not in EN yet
however seeing as shes an HMS DD with a retrofit, im sure she serves as a good evasion tank as well, so she will be far more durable than benson
bitter escarp
i like ardent's sister Acasta more for waifu purposes
shes another one of the sleepi botes
ye
or like sandy retro or something if you're morally against abusing juneau
bitter escarp
ye, historical reasons since she was an escort of HMS Glorious
so she protecc dat glorious real good
except irl it didnt end that well, but oh well they tried
vague token
hmm, i think my debuff team really needs essex
to sponge the air strike damage
tennessee/amagi/X is very squishy to air strikes
maybe it's time for double air radar amagi jk
thorny bramble
Lamo
elder crane
Lol Avrora gensui req is already at above 2210
Guess no point fast climbing now, I Max at 2219 so no 100 merit battles possible
sacred mesa
get sandy into your fleet, problem solved
vague token
sandy is a multiplier
sacred mesa
vague token
multiplying low aa doesnt get you much aa
xD
if sandy gave everyone a portion of her own aa
but we dont need that since she has her retro anyways
real notch
Where's izurich
hot creek
uh oh. I see Daxam in my lobby. Im too scared to test cause i might lose horribly
modern tree
I dont know what are you scared of
ima play so you get more points
I am going to bed anyways, this week has me beat
sharp roost
Is there an optimimum refresh and battle stragey to get higher ranking?
hot creek
🙇 your sacrifice will not be forgotten, Dax https://puu.sh/CyPhW/dae2fbafef.png
69 point difference ayyy
time to see how HMS fares against this
one of the matches so far ended in a QE vs Sodak 1v1.
I'm pretty sure QE would have lost 
real notch
Damn kowai
hot creek
these are way too close for comfort https://puu.sh/CyPCk/51ddb0a677.png
modern tree
Amagi doesn't have her skills maxed btw
hot creek
i can stream tests if anyone wants
nova storm
Overall, I really just don't know why there's an aurora in that supposed HMS fleet.. (But maybe that's just me)
hot creek
yeah she's not that great here but I'm using her anyways
i will be testing with the typical stall frontline later
trail hollow
Why is amagi paired with wasd anyways?
Havent pvped in like 2 months cuz it got boring
Now im just confused with the random lineups
nova storm
I think you just play her for her support skills..
hot creek
oh fuck, i was using the 406 on hood this whole time
vague token
evasion boost, fire damage reduction, and enemy damage debuff
get even more stall power
elder crane
And her barrage is nothing to be scoffed at either.
Additionally, Amagi's main weakness is to planes, between her poor base AA and evasion not working on suicide damage. WASD covers for her on this.
nova storm
I'm using Amakaga and Jin/Fortune/Bel vanguard. Just need to face more Wasd comps to get wrecked 😃
elder crane
Swap out bel if you're having trouble with non-foxes teams
nova storm
It's more like, I'm having trouble with specific Vanguard setups on Wasd teams to behonest 😃
vague token
aurora or ayanami depending on what you need probs
ayanami for backline pressure, aurora to ignore smoke
elder crane
Or juneau can work too, if that HP boost allows you to survive for an extra round of strikes/torps
nova storm
I'm just waiting to see what I need for now, like I'm still looking for that niche ship that I want though it might probably be aurora or juneau.. Admittedly, both are still like underleveled 😃
vague token
i leveled aurora to pair with my minn
sometimes i just want to shoot the enemy vanguard
and use minn's bulk to cheese suicide torps
with bulge
xD
still waiting for port kai
T_T
elder crane
For max torp soak, use Leander's smoke, eat every torp salvo and * miss * * miss * * miss * * miss *...
nova storm
What I really want to be out right now is Yukikaze for the fun 😃
vague token
oh god the power creep in her skills though
also im using bailey for start smoke
because team debuff is almost ready
xD
nova storm
I want to replace my Fortune Kai with Fortune Kai Ni (Yukikaze)
real notch
YKKZ
hot creek
the real gensui rush on Sandy starts now
elder crane
Rank 1 Avrora get, for all of half a minute
coral wren
hmm BBaga Akaga dosnt work that well. back to Amagi 
nova storm
Welp, I'm 20 off being top ranked so RIP 😃 Try again later XD XD
coral wren
sandbag harder xd
does ppl prefer a naked crew of lvl 100s or a bunch of lvl 1 or lower lvl fleet for pvp? since idc about ranking anymore and just wanna help ppl. but I dunno if ppl want to face a 8k/8k fleet or something like 2k/2k. since they might wanna get the 100s for exp
topaz beacon
naked 100 fleet, this way they get more exp
coral wren
oh
rip
well they better cus they are naked xd
I swap gear when I dont do pvp
but I am thinking about lvling up hiryuus skill
for that sweet 15 secs
elder crane
All lv 100 gives the most ship XP per fight, so I run lv100 noequip at season start to help people lv ships
coral wren
straight up destroys wasd too lul
dark nova
it's kinda ridiculous how fast her first barrage comes up lol
halcyon hill
Is Juneau good for any type of comp or just for HMS?
I was thinking of using her with Akaga + Amagi - Belfast + Ayaya
pastel forge
I'd say there are better option for akaga comp but otherwise she kinda always fits
halcyon hill
I dont really know what im looking for in the frontline for an Akaga comp
Since Akaga + Amagi has so much burst damage at the start i feel like a damage oriented frontline could work out
But the same can probably be said of a rather defensive or tankish frontline since they could hold the line until the 2nd akaga strike
subtle whale
if you want defensive
juneau, belfast fortune retro
offensive jintsuu aurora ayanami
dull hollow
amagi firing her barrage on the frontline is actually pretty good
i've seen her almost oneshot barrages
the one thing I will say is that her barrage numbers vs heavy armor are fucking terrible
so try not to line her up vs enemy heavy armor
finite valve
impossible if you want to snip the front line
but then if you can snip the enemy front you basically won already
vague token
i think im going to have to add juneau back in
for these maxed amaga/suicide torps
i am losing all damage trades with wasd
or maybe im just ultra unlucky with gun targeting
finite valve
problem with amagi foxes is that you need to snip aurora
like ASAP
if she is alive after fox air strike your front basically death
vague token
i was just losing backline trads
finite valve
position your enty in mid if you can
since as far as i see her barrage hit hardest at the side
for back line i think?
vague token
im pretty sure it's just the guns are aiming front
i dont have akaga, just FW
im just being out dps'd
vague token
i dont have jintsuu lol
dull hollow
amagi might outpress you
vague token
ive been using minn/aurora/X to outgun people
dull hollow
FW is hard exposed as a low damage comp if you keep both frontlines alive
that's why you're getting outraded
so hard
mathmatically FW has lowaf damage
that's why suicide strat is so key
to make FW "work"
finite valve
if you want to win pvp then i think you need to follow the meta
since ppl already change to amagi foxes already
vague token
well, only against full capped, i havent run into a brick wall of stats in a while
finite valve
not to mention suicide front
dull hollow
en u can probably still get away with LustyE comps still
so the meta isnt hard enforced yet
but amagi applies a lot of fucking pressure
so dont quote me on that
vague token
so far ive seen amaga but they dont have the stats to win xD
just so far 1 full oath lol
13k front
fun times
finite valve
lusty E comp only works if you have a front who can survive foxes strike
dull hollow
that FCR effect is strong
finite valve
CA atm don't have enough survivability
dull hollow
Junny Belfast should take care of foxes strike
it works fine in 120
vs Sendai AUrora
vague token
well yeah, like i said, ill have to swap in juneau and just win xD
dull hollow
if I werent so sick I'd try to test all the strong comps ive used against amagi comps
can EssexE still stand up
to the big girls
finite valve
don't JP CN use natago amagi and hiryuu tho?
finite valve
dull hollow
i havent perosnally tested that comp yet cuz levels
ive just been using
Hyuuga as my 3rd
it works fine so far
finite valve
also i seen video that say wasd beat nagato amgi and hiryuu funny enough
vague token
they have shell aux
for the mad deeps
i feel like if we had those wasd could push back up?
dull hollow
some ppl swear by shells some people say shells is old meta and useless
finite valve
that might be the problem
vague token
like what, 50% crit damage is a lot lol
dull hollow
i dont have enough evasion equipment to test the non shells build anyway
20% crit damage lol dont get overexcited
finite valve
go farm 10-2 bro lel
vague token
oh i thought it was higher
dull hollow
the CN build is 1 SG 1 rudder
vague token
oh it's 25
dull hollow
supposdly
again I dont have enough
evasion equip
to actually test this
without compromising my front
so I cant tell you how good it is 
finite valve
dull hollow
dont link CN videos
finite valve
this video show wasd comp beat amagi nagato and hiryuu
finite valve
dk about their equip tho
dull hollow
but it's different enough that anyone serious in JP will throw out CN pvp advice/comps
it's no that CN is wrong
it's just that their game is too different
we dont know why
but we gave up trying to emulate their comps
the results dont translate on JP
vague token
physics difference xD
dull hollow
EN has been confirmed to run on JP's build
u say "xD" but that's probably the truth
something is just different
it's kinda annoying because no one has found any testing sources for JP that are reliable as bili bideos
and JP comps are all nagaka so trying to gather data vs hms is a pipe dream
zz
vague token
=/
dull hollow
i found the perfect HMS comp once
i delayed sleep by 3 hours
just throwing my comps against it
LMAO
fuck me
vague token
ouch
dull hollow
anticlimatic af too
every comp besides FW did will
80-90% winrate
FW stepping in at sub50% winrate lol
finite valve
since i dk what they use
dull hollow
Neptune Junny XX
finite valve
i list the most likely backline
dull hollow
doy useless
finite valve
so monarch then
vague token
centaur overlaps a bit
vague token
i imagine
dull hollow
so half the advantage is lost
and the guy ran ryuusei not 818
so his comp wasnt even ideal ideal
dull hollow
depends on what win condition you're going for
if you can have a BB fire right after ur CV launch
and ur playing for frontline dominance then 818 is super gross
it's my preferred loadout for centaur
dull hollow
she can launch before BB
vague token
or something?
vague token
gotcha
finite valve
then who to dal with dem planes?
dull hollow
you go in, you use ryuusei, you see them hit fucking choukai for 1.1k
vague token
finite valve
just stack bofors + 113?
dull hollow
and then hyuuga comes in and crits her face for 11k
and you're like
?????
how about I jsut kill the boss
30s faster
and say lol what planes
I ran triple IJN backline BB
aka 0 AA
and i did perfectly fine
w12 plane damage is not insane
finite valve
so basically rush comp heh?
dull hollow
yah pretty much
my clear timer was much faster iwth BB than 120 married nakag lol
and my BBs were not 120
finite valve
you use kai hyuuga or pre kai?
finite valve
hyugga + ise or who else?
dull hollow
i did hyuuga + ise pair for leveling purposes
you can use amagi or nagato tho
centaur + 2 BB against any boss that wiggles around is just too strong
basically giving ur BB 100% accuracy
is something that's too good to pass up
free 10% damage buff too
finite valve
do you experiment much with china trio?
dull hollow
china trio so fucking bad
dull hollow
like wow you dont take damage but wow you dont deal it either
dont think it works in pvp for a second either btw
finite valve
atm i think iam just going to mirror amagi foxes tbh
think wasd jesus belfap going to be ok enough their front?
and what is XX anyway?
dull hollow
no
wasd sucks ass if your frontline is tanky
kill your frontline
and suffer less
vague token
they could adjust mgm+ ai xD
dull hollow
the wasd lineup is always 2XX + junny
2XX being squishy ships
i mean i guess in EN you can get away with running non suicides
dull hollow
since WASD is missing a good deal of tech
vague token
because MGM+2 is rng
dull hollow
that makes suicide FW super good
vague token
and the first shot probably whiffs
dull hollow
mind you suicide FW is only super strong vs akaga based comps
against hms and EssexE you get blown in to the sky
"but what if you tried normal tanky front"
finite valve
that is not counting amagi right?
dull hollow
your winrate does go up but you're still staring at sub 50% winrates
dull hollow
amagi brings a lot of disgusting pressure with that barrage + FCR effect
dull hollow
FW runs essex or enty
vague token
cause not enough damage
dull hollow
usually essex vs akaga
enty as a cheeser vs HMS
since monarch's 2nd shelling goes into enty's skill rofl
vague token
oh wow
dull hollow
we dont realy consider wash to be a barrager anymore
we kinda just consider her to be...
a thing...
a not very good thing....
vague token
xD
dull hollow
i realy cannot understand how fucking disappointing she was on JP release
months of CN hyping her ass up
drops
lament lichen
very disappointing on jp
dull hollow
"bro wtf"
"ship is ass"
granted we were playing her wrong in pvp
cuz not using suicide strat
but still
just mathmatically a disappointing ship
dull hollow
wash brings nothing good to pve
lol
like she has her niche in pvp
but like pve is like ???
finite valve
good solo pve?
dull hollow
compare her to hood, monarch, nagato, even fucking DoY,
finite valve
atm for EN anyway
dull hollow
Amagi
i mean i guess EN has no good alternatives to Hood
so wash feels okay
but just to compare to the two
hood has a fire on shot barrage
and a backline steroid
wash has a 20s barrage that's slightly weaker than hood barrage
and has 0 fucking steroid
???????/
finite valve
that if you use more then 1 back line
ivory vine
the only thing wash has over anyone is higher aa basically
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1v1
ivory vine
finite valve
solo washy is what ppl are using atm
finite valve
hood reload is only for backline
dull hollow
hood does much better damage
lament lichen
washi only point is to clear trash mobs
dull hollow
for boss u might as well run amakaga
finite valve
1 for mob and 1 for boss
dull hollow
since a lot of bosses wiggle around
so hood and wash
cant get good shots off
w10 bosses 3/4 play like puzzles anyway
u dont rly run "traditional" comps into them
you have to play to their mechanics
10-1 is pretty simple; just bring a BB with tbts
10-3 is untuitive: you need a lot of CVs
finite valve
cho cho train lel
ivory vine
10-3 is a pain in the ass
dull hollow
10-4 is "where is my centaur fuck this game"
ivory vine
10-4 is easy tbh
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i did ok on 10-4 when i swapped to double sustain carrier
ivory vine
idk i did fine w/ hood/akaga
dull hollow
and run sustain CV and a bunch of CL equipped with belguns
that's how I cleared it the quickest and most reliably
nowadays I just run 2 BB and 1 CA
ivory vine
10-3 i couldnt s rank cuz i either save airstrikes for shelling and barely dont make time
dull hollow
nice fucking balance
dull hollow
10-3 u auto with 3 CV
ivory vine
but my akaga equip/skills werent maxed
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balance, in my waifu gacha game?
finite valve
problem on EN is that CA don't got the eva buff
ivory vine
so it was pre meh
finite valve
we need eva buff to solo CA
ivory vine
yeah i really want that now
ivory vine
ive prob wasted so much xp already
ivory vine
the worst part is
finite valve
tell that to the many ppl who don't got jintsuu lel
ivory vine
i farmed jintsuu
but i dont have the main thing to run w/ her
fkin aurora
for pvp anyway
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lol
dull hollow
ppl see videos of jintsuu blowing up ppl in pvp
and realize
it doesnt translate
to attacker side
nearly as well
dull hollow
cuz of torp positioning
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i have aurora but im pairing her with Minn for gun battles xD
dull hollow
I might have to remake my pvp guide
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but i need gold belguns T_T
dull hollow
or reupdate it
dull hollow
jintsuu just "best" option
ivory vine
i have jintsuu
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lol
dull hollow
tho EN suicide FW kinda scuffed
dull hollow
EN pvp cursed cuz everything is fucking scuffed
finite valve
can share your pvp / pve link if you have one?
dull hollow
ivory vine
i just started bothering w/ pvp like 3 weeks ago
so i just bought sodak a few days ago
and dont have purins to mlb her 
dull hollow
everything else I talk about is Nakaga related so not rly that useful
esp since nakaga outdated tech lole
ivory vine
shit still dies fast af
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there's still so much frontloaded damage
on literally everything
like they said, maybe lets not end the game in 10 seconds
but it's definitely done in 20
so people can farm merits lol
dull hollow
oh there was also this
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i guess i just cant cheese everything with minn/aurora/x anymore xD
dull hollow
i tried minni as a tanky frontliner
shit sux
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she's doing pretty well atm with bulge
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her hp is low
dull hollow
she's fine cuz of her skill
performs better on trash clear
but is acceptable for boss
ivory vine
oh for pve i used her for farming ch10
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i dont think any MGM+1 ca can do anything in comparison
cause she has better bulk and damage from stats
dull hollow
btw whoever said that amagi AP bullets dont deal damage
they do 230 for me at level 10
dull hollow
level 115 vs level 70 torp rush
ivory vine
after they do almost 200
dull hollow
yeah there u go
ivory vine
cuz i didnt even level the skill up more
and it's over double the damage
and the level difference from amagi was only like 10% at the time
so it has to have been the patch for it
ivory vine
well the ap bullets were doing jack shit before too
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oh xD
before patch i was legit only leveling her debuff
you know, i just realized amagi has 379 base firepower
like
wow
what even
ivory vine
yeah she has bb level fp
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no wonder she trades so well
she literally has the same firepower
but shoots earlier
lol
i legit thought she'd be around hood
dull hollow
like yeah you'll still shell lower but it's not like crippling
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oh god another amaga/torp suicide front, guess i better regear my juneau
lament lichen
mid juneau
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yeah i know xD
dull hollow
you eventually shift her to side
junny actually hard to bomb
cuz she has decent AA and a good AA skill rofl
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yeah lol
atlanta class
oh boi
oh my god
it's so easy
E mid juneau
destroys the first strike advantage
so much
dull hollow
i just give my junny 1 evasion gear and put her sidelaner and it's the most consistent
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gross
lament lichen
you dont even need juneau to die to win the mirror
dull hollow
once shells roll in I would imagine FW suicide dominats amakaga easily
it already dominates nakaga lole
dull hollow
amakaga is missing
a lot of gear that makes it good to otho
well
ehhh
not rly
not as bad as BBs at least
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xD
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f4u is that the pirate buff fighter?
dull hollow
if ur talking about the fw fighter yes
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ah
dull hollow
lol
i beat all 15 of my pvps without a 2ndary gun on my nagato
and I fought a hiryuu Amagai comp too
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lol
hybrid tendon
amagi is kinda balanced by her low hp
she has like 6500 hp at level 100
and thats way lower than the usual
1000 hp lower than hood
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low hp doesnt matter much because of first strike advantage unless you run mirror xD
lofty smelt
Got gensui with missing 3 matches 
odd schooner
Lower hp but has that 7% dmg reduction, 10% evasion and burn reduction on top of the shell cooldown cut and barrage
But how did it end up as 7% fleetwide reduction?
wise summit
what do you mean
amagi's 'damage reduction' is not a defense buff, it's a debuff on enemy
real notch
kill me
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wise summit
she also has a separate buff (blue skill) that's actually a defense buff that applies just to backline
@real notch
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odd schooner
fossil yarrow
If I really want 1 more points from PvP, how much PvP point must be fewer?
Fewer than 35 points?
hot creek
you need to battle an opponent who has 35 more points than you to get an extra point.
supple stratus
Oh heck ye Juneau died
does rank and seasonal score affect each other and how would i maximise these points?
hot creek
the higher your seasonal score is, the high your rank goes. that's all it really is. just keep accumulating points and you'll be high ranked.
supple stratus
I see
hot creek
firstly you maximise score by winning all your matches and not wasting any charges or "attempts".
while battling someone who is, at the minimum, higher ranked than you
supple stratus
Someone made a defence fleet with Tirpitz and Hood together and i just facepalmed hard
hot creek
typically the leftmost person in the lobby will be higher ranked but sometimes you want to check to make sure.
now if you really want to maximise points, there's this thing they call "sandbagging"
supple stratus
I've heard of that term
Main problem is that there's usually stupidly overpowered against me that cucks me from getting max points
hot creek
yeah at the very minimum you will need a fleet capable enough to win all your matches.
supple stratus
I have a decent HMS fleet as my offence, although my main problem is that it's not yet maxed out
azure aurora
I miss gensui hours
I feel amagi barrage damage weaker than hood
Need to keep her mid
Ofc amakaga
Wasd E superior than wasd amagi
For attacker
Try it wasd E vs wasd amagi
Wasd E better
Well diff person diff preference, for me Wasd E kill foxes and another wasd faster + more consistent than wasd amagi
pastel forge
I like amawasd better simply cause faster overall matches tbh, hard to say about overall winrate
hot creek
yeah, I did the same with foxes
regretted it
just let them sit in dorm all day until they were lvl 99
with only like 55 affection
and i was like..."shit"
I never even bothered to get to 90 cause I don't wanna remove Honolulu from secretary lol
this event at least let me 1:1 with a fox in the back at C3 so we good now.
hot creek
vanguard is the easiest
azure aurora
Just eq secondary to your battleship and let your Vanguard running around
Instant mvp
Or sanshikidan gun if you feel lonely
azure aurora
Worth it for meme and upping affection
hot creek
its not necessary for affection farm but it does look cool