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Cn has gold meme radars too
Pr after ch 12 ?
mk6 > 381 triple anyways
in any case, the skill was changed because WASD was too strong
so at lv100, wihout aa aux
the 10% on sodak is pretty significant
thats 131 fp stat jncrease
and they might h ave thought ahead and considered the PR fp stacking with nocal as a prompt to change it
Oh, did you just say 10% on sodak is strong? Amagiiiiiiiii
and amagi is busted
@foggy token it was clear that the change was intended as a nerf to wasd, whether it was justified on nocal is another question
in en, its about 28% fp increase
imo washington is the most busted but they like their waifu
in any casae the skill was still changed
because AL devs thought it was too strong
and lets be honest no one runs gold radars in pvp

and there were no gold aa radar when nc gets skill change
exactly
so idk who even threw that out there
and u stil wouldnt run it even with the skill change
I would run it if I ever needed this boat to deal with planes, but I will never do
is there an official source that says dev changed skill because they think its too strong for pvp?
or is that just a speculation people passed around
@foggy token why do u think they changed it then
Probably not
then why the change for pve
of all things, changing a skill based on performance in pvp is like pretty low lol
why would you use her in pve before skill change?
she has no value
im serious tho 30% aa conversion to fp is not as weak as you imagine
consider the stock aa (without equipment) is about same as fp
421 fp and 400 aa at lv120
It's more or less tirpitz skill
i seriously doubt u dont have better options than nocal
and this is pvp talk anyway
you can imagine it being an american tirpitz but with aa specialization
With less social anxiety and synergy
also, this is from personal observation
i am serious that i dont find people use these trio
before the skill change
cuz triple bb backline without barrage, wash barrage is a joke in pvp btw
is not reliable
its just tankier but nothing much else
people do run enterprise with wasd for longest times
Oh man, let's be friends. Come here more often
what we know each other for a while
i wouldnt say nc skil change is a nerf, but more or less a side upgrade.
im going to say nerf because i dont give a shit about pve and i would def use socal with her old skill since enterprise is lacking sometimes, and putting nocal on makes the team unsnipable for fox comps
Don't ever ping me again unless it's something actually important... you don't come in my channel guns a blazing shitting on a waifu a like thta. Having a opinion and not liking her is your choice. But don't shit on her like that and expect not to get lashed at
!discord
Don't ever ping me again unless it's something actually important... you don't come in my channel guns a blazing shitting on a waifu a like thta. Having a opinion and not liking her is your choice. But don't shit on her like that and expect not to get lashed at
!discord
Don't ever ping me again unless it's something actually important... you don't come in my channel guns a blazing shitting on a waifu a like thta. Having a opinion and not liking her is your choice. But don't shit on her like that and expect not to get lashed at
Btw, i retired North carolina and minneapolis since they are only T1 in the tier list, also the neps unit because people keeps saying they are useless and will never be good
wdf is going on
!discord
Don't ever ping me again unless it's something actually important... you don't come in my channel guns a blazing shitting on a waifu a like thta. Having a opinion and not liking her is your choice. But don't shit on her like that and expect not to get lashed at
!discord
Don't ever ping me again unless it's something actually important... you don't come in my channel guns a blazing shitting on a waifu a like thta. Having a opinion and not liking her is your choice. But don't shit on her like that and expect not to get lashed at


the typos are intentional not gonna spellcheck for discord lmao
Btw, i retired North carolina and minneapolis since they are only T1 in the tier list, also the neps unit because people keeps saying they are useless and will never be good
but linbot is for bad advice lol
did someone actually scrap nc and minnea
this is actually good advice -_-
or was that a meme
I have the original quote me thinks, brb
who put NC on T1 anyway 
if nocal had her old skill i would already be using her
i put nc as t1 in pve 
i'd just use nocal and suicide comp then outtank them all day
She still T1 ?
FeelsHalfBrainMan
hes not that wrong tbh
phoenix is still better than minnie
minnie is just faster
maybe minnie for hm reqs but i think u can play around with things and not end up too behind
nocal i can agree, worthless in EN
still dumb for trashing waifus but as a f2p at 150 slots it makes sense
You can go by with the just the base game ships and nothing more.
All events are skippable.
Doesn’t stop me from saying you’re a dumbass for thrashing stuff because some tier list tho
still dumb but i can see his point
point and laugh
i wouldnt trash nocal but eventually theres too many ships as a f2p player
A dumb point, but a point, and everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Just I am allowed to laugh at someone for being a dumbass.
You can, the only thing that can stop someone from having X opinion is a threat of force or social seclusion.
The former, most of the time, only the Government can do legally
social seclusion.
The latter is more common outside of governmental authority.
o-o
Wait... that’s government’s things too
thats some strong opinion
WOKE
only opinion that deserves that is saying enterprise is bad imo
you can do that, just live in Soviet era and say Capitalism is best-ism.
lel
Or... 1930s Germany and say the fuhrer sucks.
Anyways, my point is that if a party doesn’t have the legal right or power to actually stop another party’s opinion, the other party can pretty much say anything. Which is the case among AL players, except mods I guess, if you start roleplaying porn for example.
I’m thinking too deep into this
Need more alcohol

HMS is dem Brazilian Navy right?
ye
Wait what trashing minne? She's by far my best dps o_O
she does good dps think everyone knows that
whole point is that guyus an idiot
understndable idiot but still an idiot
just pay the $2 and unlock the slots lol
whatever i gave up on understanding f2p logic long ago lol
Right makes sense lol
its not related to f2p, just general idiocy
People like pretending their time is worth a lot while playing a harem anime ship game. Why use something that isn't the best
Aesthetic and subjective value matters in human psychology
Thus, giving variance to what each individual deem as “the best”.
minne good dps 
That’s what she does, being MGM+1 with aux gun CA with a skill that boosts that even further
Only on Android, oddly enough
yeah bluestacks is smooth
I have tried all platforms
Smooooooooth like Kisarag- 
if you want lag, go sara lex and ju87
AL has fps issues even on high end phones
I get lag spikes every now and then when there is a shitton of planes on ipad

rigged rates, and i'm dead serious
And my gear luck
For real i havent gotten a gold since early december
I swear to god
This game 
Asian companies are probably using different methods, but both them and west ones share one same goal, which is duh make ppl donate
rip
At least i got this to calm me down
Atagoneesan is better uwu
Its been 150 cubes so far without amagi

desire sensor is on
you need to act inept in making military decisions

so amagi will come and help you

Guys, please restrict discussion to pvp topics only. #al-general, #gameplay-help and #trophy-room exist for talking about rolls or people scrapping ships or whatnot.
No bb support for the cvs
My foxes are getting roasted by 1 hot maid 
akagi need to go ramming speed
post jesus who denied the crucifixion
amaaagi vs hood for wasd
Amagi likely outperforms hood by the virtue of having 2 more skills that are defensive for a dumb tanky backline
I will be able to verify within next 3 days
you have 3 weeks
probably almost 100+ cubes, been getting a couple of Hood copies that I don't need
I need to get her fast, so I can work on her right away for my PvP fleet
BB Kaga and Akagi work quite well in both modes
the question now is
to slap Amagi or Enterprise into that flagship spot

1 cv is enough for me, i choose amagi
right, that might work more efficiently
from the CN wiki, Amagi's eva stat should be additive
other ships go by additive, ex. Hyuuga
it would be safe to assume that her cd buff is additive
Too much text 
Is Amagi / BB Kaga good for any fleets ?
amagi is good, bbkaga not particularly
So amagi is better than hood?
imo, yes
I hope we get research soon cuz with Amagi around I don't think HMS will live even if next event is Dork
Don’t stop you from using it tho. 
Metaslaving 24/7 gets boring to me after a while. (Specifically after around Commander level 70-ish, 92 and a half now).
♿ Jesus ♿
so like, im thinking amagi, tennessee for double debuff main fleet, what do you think i can meme with in the last slot
i was thinking ark royal for slow debuff but
dunno what else there is
yeah
i have bailey ready for front
aurora almost 100
im just not sure on the last main fleet slot
im pretty sure there's no more debuffer main fleets
nope, probably ark is your best bet
I sense a disturbance in the force.
Hello
There
O. O
@slow totem if you think I wont be the last person on earth playing QE and Warspite you are deeply mistaken. I have every pvp viable ship maxed so I can study them, make my own opinions on them and figure out how to beat them with Warspite. No other reason
👌
Just a question: as a colonel, every +35 pts difference between you and opponent gives +1 ranking pts? I think I was facing a top100 player and got +5; they couldn't have been more than 100-150pts above me so it kinda falls in line with that theory?
rank and title do not matter for this equation, it's only points difference
So even at lieutenant, each +35 difference only yields +1 for victory?
and it's hard to tell how it is calculated beyond first extra point that is hard 35 because there is no way to see your oponent points, but I have heard from people in this chat that they have been getting +2s from less than 70 difference so its not entirely consistent
I am almost regretting going down this pvp flexing hole. (I miss when I used it as just an xp booster)
I sometimes wish I didnt care as much about ranks with no rewards but then I see myself in top 100 for pvp and collection and I go like "I can get top 3", then I am doomed

Warspite is a milf
oh na, I am replacing hood

That might be a lie
but Warspite is getting a retrofit so it doesnt matter in the end
LOL
is it because of the slits in her dress
i feel that might be warspite's #1 charm point
I thought that was a scarf
I am sure justification for my entirely sunjective taste is critical to excel at pvp, which is why I am better than all of you
you wont steal this secret that easily
In case you thought I was joking about Warspite retro , yep, I posted it again, sue me https://twitter.com/azurlane_staff/status/1082585166097215490
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i doubt she will get retrofit
I bet people said the same for Sandy
they might update her art tho
“Enty will get a retrofit”
X doubt.
“Warspite will get a retrofit.”
Makes sense, she sorely needs it after all the powercreeping.
Warspites skill is about as much of a meme as Sandys so I dont see any reason why they wouldnt give her a stat bump and a real ability



whos pudding
Yo, how's Amagi in PvP? is the comp build around her is gucci?
it will take at least 2 more days for people to get Amagi to a level where she can be used in pvp
not because leveling her is hard, but because skills are really time consuming and she has 3 of them
well, test, in 2 ish days you can have skills at 7-7-7
But on paper, what do you guys think bout her? her skills looks solid if paired with akaga imo
daxam idk if u can read japanese but that's not warspite
i'm no HMS player but i don't think that's warspite
I'm just happy to have amagi^^
Its a conversation between QE and somoene, someone that is getting something from the queen, Warspite is an easy assumption
I am not an unbiased source, but I would struggle to read it differently
yea i can read japanese
but translations (especially AI) don't catch speech habits
and the person QE is talking to is using 敬語 which is polite speech
but i checked with warspite's list of lines, even when she's talking to QE she doesn't use 敬語
not to mention historically warpsite is in the same class ship as QE
they would talk to each other as equals 
I admire your dedication to ruin my dream
@high flume As for Amagi, she is an easy replacement for Hood in fox setup because her very fast barrage will help with getting rid of the frontline, making way for a devastating second strike. Shes also very likely to be strong with Washington and South Dacota because of their innate tankyness enchanced further by both of her skills
She will make HMS struggle to kill things fast and I will hate it
cheer up, a lot of japanese commenters are also wishing it's warspite
some are also saying ark royal... DOY...
It's a dumb tease, but tbh, out of all HMS ships, BCs and Warspite are the only ones eating everyones powercreep'd dust
I would be fine with Renown
or w/e
I will be happy with anything that becomes useable really
HMS had not a real buff or anything for them since research
well
i did some more reading
warspite in battle currently has this line to QE:
陛下、私の活躍に期待して頂戴。
didnt sandy have an event for herself that gave a key item required to retro her?
so at least the way she refers to QE is the same as that teaser 
wonder if itll be the same with warspite
Microphone for Sandy retro, yes
I can't read japanese for the record, I am just very resourceful
her item will either be a sword or a CheyTac Intervention.
well
if it's warspite i'd be pretty stoked
honestly as long as it's not IJN
i'm pretty stoked
Her item will probably be whatever QE is planning to give her in this tease
I am absolutely certain that if people arent sick of IJN yet, Amagi will make them sick of it soon enough
or hiryuu kai 
Or that one, yeah, I am still trying to forget this exists
other regions can keep it for themselves
ill take an ark royal retro ;))))
so like, are those carrier aux gear on the wiki in CN/JP already?
like the strike CD reduction or plane speed stuff?

@vague token yes
oh boi
i missed 3 last night as well, fell asleep, rip
are you guys gonna farm 100k event currency for those T5 boxes?
100k is a lot
you can farm a map past world 5 for a gold drop of your choice with the oil you would have to spend to get to 100k
also the blueprint drops in the event are not amazing
i might farm to 50k
i farmed a quad mag from scratch last event and that only got me to 83k currency lol
seriously
gonna need pics
yes
wow
deduct about 15k from dailies
about 64 hours of grinding for one quad mag
=(
and i ended up dropping one from a box literally the next day
could not be more saltier lol
┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)
6-4 is normal quads, not mags
but yeah I can't complain too much, my equipment luck is pretty shit all around
but ships drops ez for me
https://puu.sh/CvmzX/8cd09e6bf1.png when you don't wanna waste purins
I've wasted purins on the hearts. Maxed and no shame.
not maxed skilled, and still grinding for 200 affection
lol
ya
white heart is my next project
gonna be a pain in the ass tho
i find her less useable than purple
someone streamed Enty vs 13000 hakaga
said if they won I would sub
they never won 
tbh 13000 hakaga in EN is already suboptimal
means ur using gold meme eq
to inflate score
wish me luck bois as I test suicide FW vs this
@dull hollow
if i win with ~9k monitor fleet against a 12k enty fleeet would u sub
all oathed enty fleet
ahhhh motherfucker I accidentally killed the enemy
7:1 winrate
wouldve liked a better sample size
gimme my sub
SUB
yeah i told u
that changes things a bit
even said i took out nelson 
yeah need QE otherwise monitors just vaporize to any air strike
i need that lil bit of evasion
@dull hollow gimme dat sub
LMAO
LOL!

wonder how long it will take EN to get burned out of pvp ranking
i ranked for liek 4 months before I realized
"i'd rather just sleep"
also taking a nap and missing cycles was alwyas cancer
Give it a year or more
i already stopped pving
the 12PM PST -> 6PM PST crunch is too much
so i have to finish all my entries before 12PM to not miss out
decided fuck that lol
i just wake up
do 10 battles
and wait for the next cycle
and purposefully fight
the strongest comps
to gather data
and exp ofc
man jintsuu aya yolo torp sure is fun, I dont think I can go back to stalling front regardless of backline lol
you will once you start facing compentent fox teams.
just reset until ayanami crits a torp on backline 
^ , bye forever eldridge. at least I didnt max your skill juneau is too good to ignore tho
eldridge is only relevant because so much of ENs pvp scape is filled with enterprises
Nagato/Amagi will shake things up a lot
Jintsuu aya torp strat syngerizes really well with FW
but u dont wanna use it with other comps
just use namagi with hiryuu kai 

it's more so that
FW is
exceptionally strong
into Akaga styled comps
FW gets exposed for having dogshit damage
if you try playing vs good EssexE / HMS comps
and the recent Amagi addition
EN will never have to suffer the tyranny that is Nakaga
because FW straight up fucks them in the ass
Who's FW
So FW comp is the counter for Akaga set ups?
That’s basically what Iriya said lol
FW shits on akaga if u play suicide style
EN currently doesnt have strong Enterprise or HMS setups so FW should be natrually dominant
eldridge
is actually really awful in EN right now ever since the suicide comp became a thing
ive had her die before fox strikes
aurora eats her alive
not rly an issue for suicide FW tho 
as long as u lose ur entire front
around after the first akaga strike
ur good to go

What do u mean by suicide FW?
just go jintsuu aurora ayanami like everyone else tbh
i prefer ayanami over juneau
to have some parting gifts
Ohhh
juneaus torp stat is too weak
jueau heals u for 30%
2 important to overlook
but EN doesnt have
a lot of damage
so
you can get away without junny
for now
once the meta picks start trickling in
gl
ive had hilarious resets forced against me with the jintsuu cheese
2 ships lost before i finished loading 
spawn and im like where the hell did aurora and juneau go
yeah u see that's why I like FW suicide so much
even once the other meta comps trickle in
EssexE
HMS
Nagaka urself
u always run
the risk
of getting cheesed
by opening torps
suicide FW doesnt care
jintsuu cheesing is just too good
honestly its too meme to give up even if its suboptimal
if you lose 2/3 frontliners to opening
as long as junny dies
during the akaga strike
you win
thers just something funny about making someone reset after he just waited 10s to load
ive been doing all right throwing minn/aurora/X against suicide
load and then forced to reset 2s after 
then do it again

the best part about torp comps is u can force them to reload several times
I didn't realize you could reset by pausing and leaving. I've always hard reset by closing the whole game all this time. Kill me
defense wise
playing Jintsuu is almost always the correct answer
because of torpedo positioning in pvp
oh yeah for sure
i suppose its a little bit safer resetting that way. fucking pause button is microscopic
Benson Helena...
...Jintsuu!
i dont think any of them torp, just gonna be jintsuu on her lonesome lol
wish i had a fucking benson
(benson is way too shitty to be considered a torper)
she doesnt exist
Amagi completely unusable right now btw. Just scrap
Ok enemy vanguard is crap but whatever
benson is actulaly -1 ship slot, and +15% cv dmg
eldridge, ayanami, belfast, dude u can beat them with any fleet tbh
ik
Not really, the backline (FW-E) doesn’t care about vanguard,
Not any fleet
But with enough resets.
Who knows
@slow totem then the belfast is pointless lol
Mindblown
cuz belfast is for stalling
and protecting the vg
with smoke
if u want it to die quickly just jintsuu tbh
Yeah, but ‘any’ fleet is a gross exaggeration
in the end amagi def skills are not so hugely important
It’s still better to stick Hood/Enterprise in for foxes it seems.
actually i suggst enterprise unless u need ot snipe soemthing
Just kill the dudes faster than stalling with Amagi’s defense skills.
Hood's snipe damage isnt even that high
You shave off 2 seconds on average
u save more than 2s from E's greater dmg contribution imo
I mean u can run Tirpitz Akaga lmao
against wasd fleets
I have a pet peeve against “Do X, period”.
well when i have hood to snipe Entys she usualy shaves off half hp ez with barrage
Having choices are nice
@dull elm hood was bsically made to snipe enty, shes the only snipable one ien wasd anyway 
It’d be a boring ass game if you can only have 1 choice and that’s it.
Start to feel that at Commander level 70-ish.
@slow totem yeah i already stopped pving
once Nagato arrives
Mirror matching is ew
@dull elm also amagi is awful for offense so if ur team comp outmatches theirs then u dont even need her at all
i dont even buy purins anymore
amagi is stuck in a weird place


she's slike FW where she sucks
if both frontlines are alive
becuase her barrage will aim at the frontline
but you cant play suicide style with Amagi
unless u put her in FW
which is a uh
weird comp
i will be using Amagi meanwhile cuz if it works no problem
but it might work
u can
Amagi will probably be stronger once u have Nagato + centaur
anything works p much on en
I still dont have Aurora sadly enough
@dull hollow yeah therws no way i should be able to use neptunia ships
and random javelins
What about Jon Tron?
whos jon tron
am i just old or is everyone young
r/woooosh Enty
But seriously, what about Jon Tron? Does she sake the meta?
Dunkey 
Yes, sake. 
WHY JON TRON
yeah its whoosh over me
might be before my time
Yes, cause she does ALOTTA DAMAGE 3 seconds into the battle
u mean jean bart?
die 
i dont think bart simpson breaks the meta
she's a good alternative to QE in Monarch Centaur comp tho
bart is too rng, why do they when u can run nagato memes and afk
But she’s French tho.
Bart lets u
level up
3 random frontliners
and 2 backliners as long as they deal reasonable damage
but
u have to reset
like
10x per battle

talking about meta terms
yeah if i have to reset i already lost tbh
the shame is crushing 
I WANT MY PURINS
or just weird comps to run
i found out about
all these strats
because i run stupid shit
on JP
tbh
idk if i'll still be playing

im looking at GFL right now... its looking kinda good rn since they released the uncensored arts
basically meant no one tried to think about themselves
GFL is like AL but if AL had no content
play at ur own risk

but AL has no content 
Issa good game
exactly.
are ships g acha?
it's a chinee game so gacha but reasonable rates
The Skins are Gacha in GFL
I would assume

AL is "gacha"
So you roll for the Gungirl, then you roll for the Skin
oh okay
In AL, you just roll for the Ship
so u dont get handed the gungirl
i thought u got handed the gungirl

so its a ship gacha and a skin g acha

Are you older than me? Please say yes so I can feel young again.
i'm a 60 year old cat lady with a large futa cock

I believe it
also fkin bc2
mmm
well my first console was a ps3
first mmo was WoW
searchal dsr50 live2d
so is hanyang live2d 



But am I right? i don’t play gfl. XD
tbh it looks like standard nano machine boobs live2d
ive seen it
not anywhere near dsr50
but DSR looks more lood
^
HAAAAAAAAA!!!
pls make taihou lewder

they need to spill the wine over her entire boobs tbh
Fanarts fix that, and more
nah not l2d
Just Dan(booru)
nah, i want the original L2D
her origianl art looks the best
fanart always looks weird
Or pixiv, or any reliable image image of your choice,
Most of the AL artists start as fan artists y’know
fuck all these thots give me a quality brooklyn and columbia doujin


but i want the L2D on my phone
searchal Columbia
DAS A CLEVELANDLOOKALIKE!!
"Once men lose interest in the boobs, humanity is doomed."
wow truer words have never been spoken
ppl cricitiing men for being pervs, imagine a world where they WERENT

id actually start worrying about humanity if men werent attractede to thots like taihou and dsr
<< Columbia Cleve >>
It’s okay, Androids will take our place.
there's one particular Brooklyn image on booru that's like 19 tiers above the others

Or maybe, it’s...
<< Sunglasses Cleve Ponytail Columbia >>
the rest are 🚮
thonk
wAit, I thought this is #trophy-room
u know there was a period when I ran leander in pvp along with belfast
to counter opening torps and akaga strikes

its ok
Less chance for bs reset due to torp meme
problem is leander falls off
so does belfast
belfast exists only for akaga strikes

leander doesnt really fall off... bigger problem is u need 3CL to maxmimze her buff
No U
is the best face

fuk u
looks normie
I like that 4chan board
she's so happy

I want to read that kind of doujin now



Don’t tell me that’s not intentional innuendo.
that's not even an innuendo anymore
Yeah, reading it again, that’s pretty out there that only Renown-level denseness would not get.
AL says 🖕 to American SJW-ness

That’s ghei
Cleave is alright in pvp
cleve + helena has funny rng
She a’ight
Norhing more to say, just ALRIGHT
if her buff was more reliable id main her
She knows how much force to use to make you feel good tho.
lmao
the only issue I take with AL is the implmentation of some molest touch lines 
?
most of them are fine w.e
standard anime trope "kyahh/go lewd/ill kill u"
Like how Ykkz punches the screen?
not really eh
Akagi encourages you to do her in front of everyone
yeah
180
it's just a select few
with leipzig being the worst offender

searchal leipzig
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