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I REJECT MY CARRIER REFIT. AKAGIIIII!!!
fuckkkk why canāt the bunny retros come out so I can bench the foxes rEeEE
Cranes exist

I already used Enty cranes as my defense fleet for a season, I need to change things up
do cranes enty
Did cranes Enty as well by putting zuikaku as the flagship
Hood cranes next I guess?
Amagi cranes?

Level 100 Bulins Cranes
Hiryuu cranes
someone said in cn that
rabbits nagato was the comp to beat
need to confirm that though
i want akaga retrofit xP
rip pvp forever
iowa class ship when xD
ZA PURODIGA
1000 IQ
imagine if they released bismarck and an iowa class with a USS leader skill
at the same time
max troll power
Imagine if they deleted pvp
id be sad but it wouldnt be that huge
āPhil Swift: Bismarck deals OHKO damage to Hood.ā
xD
"I sawed this boat in half!" - Bismarck Swift
@jolly sandal RIP my 4 Extra Purins per month
i should probably buy some more for the new ships lol
Bismark should have leader skill so that kms wouldnāt be utter shit in pvp

what kind of leader skill would be enough to make kms good but not overwhelming like nagato
xD
hms?

Make it 100%
and even than it won't be enough, lol
Z1's your answer (for now)
honestly a decent buff rather than a 50% or 100% stat increase
kms needs retrofits if anything i think
^
if you lack the buff, that's a useless skill and all
but Tirpitz's fp is decent enough
for you to push through
But stat alone is not enough look at pow
y, pow is a good example
I understand there's more factors to it
Nickname all your ships and show em' all

Someone actually added me to friends because they lost a pvp game against me and my ship nsmes inspired them
Really strange experience
Friends list should probably have more features than stat check and 20 character chat room
I could see just challenging your friends defense fleets for the hell of it
No rewards just fun, testing and flexing
Maybe with the ui update they keep teasing we will get something cool like that

xD
Azur Lane e sports when
xD
it's fair no worries
collective autism
Wait that meme
That account name
Thatās totally Zeka isnāt it
Sending this meme to her

i have muted the channel for washingtonc asue of all that shit thats there written
So obvious lol
What got me was the who cares about artwork part and pve being competitive in games
Obvious troll
Meh...

Hey pve really competitive vs rng


Also the fact they said Nagato is bad (opticwise assuming artwork) but has Jintsuu as the Secretary
Theyāre both the same species my god, troll smarter gdi
Makes me sad, genuinely
Artwork one that hurt my nerve
They have Jintsuu as secretary tho, obvious troll right there
Who cares
Still a poor attempt at trolling
Need to troll smarter
Well it is kinda weird to make big seven ship a loli..
Yeah
all those ijn destroyers aren't enough it seems š sakura empire, more like loli empire allright eh?
Or just make them all lolis
You gonā hav a bad time if you think ship size = Body type strictly
I mean Zeka has jintsuu as Secretary cause she spent 2 weeks on her, and sheās always hated Nagato so
honestly hard to tell at this point
Nah, she said foxes are the best
Mikasa theme is bull or another oni ?
she fucking hates Loligato tho, always has
And her trolling style has always been the āIn your face, look at me, Iām trollingā
That's why kc has better design š

š¤
Loligato > KCgato 
but kinda awful art..

Forget Nagato, the PvE being competitive and who cares about artwork part already make it obvious, come on
Donāt forget the elephant in the room
Not oni
ONI IN THE ROOM


Shhh izu donāt say that, this is a no AR server 
bullins on w10
the help police will kill ya
do it š
I agree ar is not good after danger lv come
My game, my way, are those vets paying my bills? No? exactly

ar gave me an early jintsuu so i can dab
Let them come
As long as they donāt pay my bills, Iāll keep using Akashi, currently raising Bestal atm
Iām Commander Level 92, metaslaving shit gets boring after Level 70

i like them for world 10 just incase ambush screw me hard
how are you higher level than me with 4K less attacks 

Cassin downes
yeah nagato is a shit ship, just use yorktown tbh
Different class booooo


Boooooo
BOOOO
Boooo
there we go
Thatās a better bait
Mutsu ?
searchal mutsu
oh nagato shadow
Mutsu costs 1 less oil, confirmed superior
wow shes already better 10/10
mutsu hav ebeels
Short-haired Nagato
Long-haired Mutsu
she superior
ew

Mutsu you madlad
At the wedding night, she kidnapped Nagato then took her place
Berry cunning
Level 100 NTR

Ah not this uni ntr again

what uni ntr 
all NTR is good 
Itās always the younger sister, I swear
its not NTR without mindbreakcorruptionpregnancy
š
Thot younger sister
guys are hypocrites so its never NTR when ur stealing a girl from someone else
Netoreverserare?
y, something like that
#DoujinTerminology101
wouldnt mutsu good for those lowoil farming when compare to nelson and the other one
if a guy gets stolen thats not NTR amirite just blame the other girl for not being hot enough
easy doujin logic š
Mutsu is End-Game Erebus
100% mutsu
eh, probably jsut a reverse ntr
Not my fault
Yeah, thatās Mutsu alright
end=game erebus, already broken
i should prob raise erebus
Shiet
erebus already OP now u gotta improve on her
Not even mad, thatās amazing
y u gotta break the game
that nagato you uncultued swines


what if mutsuki is the single cell ship where all ships comes from
Aināt that Cubes?
Mutsuki basis of ship tree line
What if? Thats fact
She can become Akagi, Taco, Ataco, more

Kitsurugi becomes Kaga, Maya, Poi, Hiryuu?
We Digimon now
This is more weird than room 2 lex
i got lost a while back
From mutsu ntr to mutsuki tree line
ppl call QE a loli and thats like a super stretch
yeah
QE flat teen
Yeah, QE being a loli is also super stretchy, borderline maybe
Super flat
Sheās just flat-chested rip
i mean
QE is elongated flatboard
then again i dont consider unicorn a loli
Ark Royal is actually Destroyercon, not Lolicon, weird
unicorn is more a thot pretending to be a loli imo
She likes Ayanami and Cygnet too
will alter royal likes oneesan?
And those are definitely not lolis
yeah ayanami is def not loli

cygnet is just thicknet

Alter Royal is BBcon
we need an adult destroyercon to prove the theory
the one form the cruncyroll vid
What about the Submarines and Albacore
well
They liek swimsuits
albacore is banned, we cant discuss that here 
taihou likes albacore
Ark royal afraid of sub

but does she like sandwiches
maybe alter royal will make ark royal show her serious side or something
they havent gone to that route yet
Or make her more pervert
If you are a tall guy, like average white guy, Nagato is a loli, I agree

tbh
bbcon
i thought most ppl playing this wewre asians
But if youāre average Eastern Asian height, sheās not really
Well of course, this is a Chinese game
Not most

But just EN, I dunno
i just assume everyone is a chinese commie unless otherwise stated, tbh 

EN server is pretty much SEA server with how much whining goes on

That wacist 
not sure whats up with SEA but they always need to state they're from SEA and whatnot lol

Doesnāt that apply to Merica too?
Nope

no i actually dont know many americans
btw yukikaze and fortune stack right
Only rusian
āGreetings from <Insert State here>ā
But i don't understand
Seen that so many times
Dota word
Cyka!!
Spek Ruski, I no spek London
At this point my friend and i use that for greeting
lol
speak english, its a better radar now 
MARCO
Trivago


You fk up!
Thx
implying ppl arent speaking russian in london already
they probably speak arabic or hindi there š
Strong hiryuu
Actually legit
No more f up

nice i stopped the fight before i lost but it counted as lost.....just sad

lets jsut hope i not fucked everything upo with that 2 loses
gensui?
ah k
its my first time I'm major now
ahh no rear admiral lower half was it where i need to be <1000
i missed 6 tix last season n barely got gensui sniping at each reset, how d u make it w 10 
very precise sniping at incredible hihg speed
Yes aim for +12
The first 5 minutes gotta go fast sniping
very old art old art and what do we have now?
ah
HENSHIN
@modern tree difference between left and right?
None, they're just listed this way
whats that dog in that T-1?
hm i thought taihou eventualy
I mean, she could work in that spot too. I will try to read it when I get home, unless someone that actually speaks the language drops in here before that
Idk why but I thought it'd be Mikasa
so that "rank" above T0 is just listed as a meme?
I think it's listed seriously because HMS never had a business being t0 on cn which means they're probably dealing with the top fleet at least to some degree, suddenly making them t0
That's how metas work 
who is that in the 3th T1 row on the right side between belfast and QE?
oh hey lookit that
wasd + amagi is listed as T0.5
guess i was right about my theorycrafting the other day
Sheffield @native mantle
but surprisingly how they would rate HMS higher than nagafox
iirc left one is for atk right one for def
most surprising to me is the amount of Helena tbh
in the lower tiers yeae
40%+ dmg at 20sec is always good
Sodak with 406 focused assault and wash barrage on Helena proc is still really dangerous
EN has too much Enterprise for it to be consistent tho
lucky E+helena can be extremly dangerous too
I suppose when eldridge is completely out of meta some stuff will be back to being really strong
Enterprise is barely ran on cn if this is their meta, which makes a lot of powerful things open due to not being fucked with by straight rng
Unfortunately en has just barely enough power to deal with her consistently so she's still the most used crutch
Dork is probably not fast or durable enough compared to Monarch. In our meta Dork would wipe the floor with most things, they have Nagato
Alright, so I apparently doge means you can put anything in there that is IJN and it will work and the tier it is listed is č®ŗå¤ which is roughly STRONGER THAN EVERYTHING
can ya take that serious?
the explanation is that any backliner that will trigger Amagi faster shot just makes the fleet ridiculous
obviously there are probably better and worse picks so Hyuuga, Hiryuu, Taihou maybe BB Kaga will work better than just any IJN but this is the meta we live in
or rather
they live in
we are going to be experiencing it post nagato
i wonder which changes it will be with amagi
oh, you can easily tell
see the fleet at T0.5? Thats the future until research/nagato
wasd amagi
and without washi?
you cry
wait that wouldn't work. we don't have that PR frontliner
Louis is not necesary, EN has plenty of boats that can fill in one vanguard slot with being tanky and dealing damage, like Belfast or something
so akagami should work until nagato hits
I do not know how capable it is and its hard to tell based on actual 0 experience we have playing it on EN coupled with servers that have her having much better tools and not really bothering to run that
wedontknow
wasd amagi is a thing, we know that, and its reasonably strong according to chinesee, we also know that
not much else
Also from more exciting pvp news, they hinted on Warspite getting "something" I can't really read so better start leveling your HMS in case Warspite pulls a Sandy considering they are about the same level of meme. https://twitter.com/azurlane_staff/status/1082585166097215490
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I need to stop talking to myself
just found the perfect wasd fleet with jintsuu, aurora, ayanami
it's maxed too 
Equipoise (south dakota, enterprise, washington | jintsuu, ayanami, aurora) 13.2/13.0
current fleet (akagi, kaga, enterprise | belfast, jintsuu, aurora) 12.5/13.0
Foxes vs WASD
game 1 - win
Game 2 - win
Game 3 - win
Game 4 - win
Game 5 - win
Game 6 - win
Game 7 - win
Game 8 - loss
Game 9 - win
Game 10 - win
Game 11 - win
Game 12 - win
Game 13 - win
had good results from my testing
there's one last fleet type i need to test against, and if my theories are correct, 3CV should lose big time to
which is HMS
good luck finding those
which sort of results in another rock-paper scissors meta
also, which frontline could hms even run to not get slaughtered by 3cv on offense
if opponent has...
wasd ? --> run 3CV
3CV ? --> run HMS
HMS? --> run WASD
idk i feel like HMS vanguards are beefy af
especially with belfast, in the few un-maxed HMS fleets i fought, all 3 survived
after 1st airstrike
but against this wasd fleet, his entire vanguard would just get wiped after 13 seconds
Aurora has juneau tier meme AA buffed by QE so with belfast they might be pretty tough I guess
I can often tank like one lucky e with no issues with destron but I dont think E foxes would have tough time breaking that after E strike and not wiping vanguard with just Akaga is not really a lose condition unless mgms land on a fox enough to slay her before second strike.... so maybe its a lose condition
it should really be more about your vg surviving to tank the BB shots tho
yeah, ur right, the biggest loss condition for twinfox in any comp is 1 dying before 2nd strike
which seems super possible especially with HMS offense
Its possible but with maxed HMS one shotting a fox with just barrage + warspite is not really a thing that happens, they live with about 20% hp unless they get hit with at least one more volley from any of the bbs
and thats on offense
then again
I guess warspite will shoot twice before 2nd strike?
so maybe you are screwed on just hood barrage
believe it or not but I have not seen good fox fleet in forever
I actually dont know the timings by heart, Hood with gold fcr might also shoot twice before 2nd strike since its like 15+16 if she got barrage on first shot
maybe you are screwed against good fleet
uhh i'm not too familiar with hood timings either
but fox 1st strike has about an 8 second lead on 410mm?
because 12sec --> 19sec
not sure, i'll do the calcs later
Hood is 15 on first shot and 18 on second without barrage, with barrage it increases her reload and cuts it to 16
yea roughy 18-19 sec before HFCR
so maybe 
based on your calcs it's 15+16 = 31
fox 2nd strike is 13+23 = 36
though i'm not sure hood barrage is cut to 16
oo ok that makes sense then
then yea probably
dead fox by 4:28

that's why i put my enterprise on the side
so hopefully HMS fleets will snipe her instead
I guess it really is about killing the vanguard before enterprise strike to put enough pressure on the backline
the thing is
that hood shooting this fast and proccing barrages a lot
makes it so she end up timing 3rd and 4th barrage with lucky es so if QE is dead there is going to be no damage on enterpirise
so just having her not sniped will probably win you games on its own because lul E
or lose them if you are bad at rng
its all rng
this matchup is just 70% chances
I am terribad at rng
Is this accounting for magnet missiles that moved past vanguard?
hitting back with torps makes HMS even better yes, but also its hard to judge how much impact it will have because its random and strongly dependent on whcih side you are on
Hello there, as I'm a beginner, I'd like some help to get a good enough PvP fleet
I play only a few times a day, less than 5 so I'm not planning to think to deep about fleet lines up
I used to do Enty, Tirp, random CV : Z23 kai, Portland Indy
Yeah that's what I'm doing, but I tend to encounter more and more ppl by my lvl,
and nah I don't have Washy sadly + I'm grinding 3-4 rn, but still no akaga
another tip if you dont know
yeah ?
oh ? so i don't get the loose?
ooooh, nice tips thanks man
I play since about a month, so tips like these are truly appreciated
just build up your fleet
I see
at some point u may go to 3-4 and farm for Akagi/Kaga(merci on your souls) since they gonna be meta
*cancer meta in pvp
xD ok, but I gotta grind toolboxes at the same time so it's ok for now, just a dozen of runs for 1-2 toolboxes.
Anyway, imma play PvP
yeah
is DEsuland good in Pv P?
- some merit
ooh, ok then !
are they ? haven't they been reworked ? I saw that somewhere
its gonna change whne we have 120 LV cap
oh yeah that's it, lvl cap mb
is Prinz Eugen usefull in PvP, as she does 0 damage but is she tanky enough ?
I see... and so I'll stay with Z23+Portland, but for the 3rd one should I put a tank there or another DPS ?
idk if she even decent at lv 120
Cleve and Ajax (not fully) Kai
I didn't scroll up far enough oops
use cleve i guess
I have Belfast, but still no Belgun !
I see, then I'll swap CAs for Cleve in PvE
i guess your enterprise can actually carry you a lot at this point
OUI, she's MVP everytime
Max that skill and enjoy free wins ez clap
btw were you around when the Fallen wings event started?
xD nice, but idk who should I out as the third main wheel lol, I have Enty + Tirp
nah ! I joined during NepNep event
But what other people said really, fleet comp won't help much when things aren't level 100 or close
oh well then save up your merits and for 20000 merits get Eldridge from shop
and lv up her skill
Eldridge and Illustrious will do you some wonders
Since you can't do wash + south dakota
Enty/Hood/Lusty would be a good backline. Helena/Eldgridge/Belfast would be a good vanguard since they're obtainable
Tirpitz replacing hood for now that is I suppose
yup
Definitely use lusty over lex
Repair ships don't really have a use until late chapters, but even then it's mostly just Akashi 
what about Ayaya in PvP ?
She's good, but still dies easy and does nothing outside of torp
Really good for a torp squad of Jintsuu/Aya Kai/Aurora
is Fubuki usually used with Ayaya ?
mmh
Juneau is kind of niche imo, but she heals your team. That heal has really never come in important in matches for me personally
Can't go wrong with either of these two fleets. Got max rank with both many times
You have 4/6 for the second one with Eldridge just being a shop grab
is "niche" of juneau being used in every pvp fleet forever once we are at lvl 120
I currently have Z23, Cleve and Ajax lined up, but wouldn't it be better to change Cleve for Ajax (in both PvE and PvP) to match the Destruction skill timing ?
But that's 120 Daxam 
its gonna be sooner than you think
Team i meme around in pvp atm. Wont matter since at this point you only face plebs
I don't think Ajax will do you much good in pvp Gredin
offtopic question, how to get Ayaya's skin dress ?
Oath her
oh ok so Z23, Cleve and Helena ?
For now that will probably be your best squad with current levels, but do definitely raise some others specifically for pvp
yeah for pvp you want to have ships with skills that benefit the whole fleet. No place for selfish ships
well, they'll always be usefull later anyway so I can lvl up pvp ships and use them in PvE... I'm only w6
at some you gonna get Belfast if you get her raise her up
I already do
oh
ye ye
you really need Belfast against Akagi/Kaga fleets or youre eaten alive very fast
yeah for pvp theire not good

And if anyone didn't mention yet, you can leave match if you're about to lose and reset
yeah they've informed me, thank you !
also getting better equipment and upgrading them gonna make a big difference
for pve
oh I see
CAs that are useable in pvp require to be tanky and have mgm+1 pmuch, Portland and Minneapolis are like the only ones that I can say could work without testing it from EN pool atm
oh ok
and could is probably giving them a lot of credit
Is this line up good enough?
they need to be babysat by pretty much entire vanguard and thats eeeggggughthhh
also gredin dont pay attention to tier lists
Put Z23 in the middle
they are bait
aight Z23 right in the middle
i see see these dumbasses all the time who throw in T0 ships in pvp
but are together useless
free victory, what are you complaining about ?
Lusty is no good, you will need something that hits harder than this, like saratoga or ranger
ik but im telling you not to go the dumbass route u dig?
those are my main ships
Lusty is good with Eldridge though. 
Still leveling for that tho
put Lexington instead of Illustrous, shes just not flat Saratoga
should serve you alright for the time being
just to ger merits
do some event build tomorrow it should include heavy pool i think? so u can maybe get some good backline ships
if you seriously consider pvp, get Queen Elizabeth and build a fleet around her because she doesnt compromise your pve capacity like a lot of other pvp efficent lineups do
Enterprise will never go out of style
level your things and you should be fine to farm merits
yeah I have prepared my cubes, I've never got this many on my hand, about 90
Yep, as I thought it might, WASDA is apparently a thing (turns out -45% reload time for first shot isn't that important to have), and there's the what I found somewhat surprising Nagato/Amagi/Hiryuu Combo (though not yet relevant in EN)
Amagi is also a decent sub for Nagato for Foxes, while we wait for Nagato
I suppose she's also another option for the flex slot of HMS while we wait on better HMS ships, given how she supposedly works well with WASD
HMS does not really have flex slots. Enterprise exists and she would take priority over almost any ship on EN as a "flex" pick. Rodney/Nelson probably easily outgun Amagi with QE buffs and while their big 7 is a big meme compared to Nagato's, it still pressures the frontline a damn lot which is a pretty good win condition for not yet realized hms dream, which is strong offense. Some damage resistance on a moderately fragile boat with no AA might not really be worth it for the Royal Navy just because of the nature of the fleet and its goals. If you could play HMS and make her fire fast then maybe.
also just another food for thought is that WASD > nagato / amagi / bunny so don't use her for def fleet cus WASD going to rekt your shit if you not careful
as evidence by this video
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av39630419
I only care about offense fleets tbh
Not really care about def fleet
pretty sure offense = use whatever lol
Itās actually the other way around, Phantom
Defense = Use Whatever Lul
Offense = Gotta think of something if you want that sweet 2500 merits
he says defense is not meaningful in the context of winning from the perspective of an offense fleet
and i agree
but if u really wanna give ur opponent a hard time crafting a defense fleet is much harder than crafting an offense fleet
Oh yeah @real notch I forgot to screenshot damn it, but Cygnet/Leanderās opening smokescreen works reliably against Torp Memes.
oh nice 
Just faced a Jintsuu Ayaya Aurora fleet now, LeanderXDās chad smokescreen enabled Belfast to eat almost all of the opening torps with half health remaining
what fleetpower was the VG?
nice
No headache resetting = Good enough for me
Might not be for you tho, hopefully youāll find one to test LeanderXDās chad smokescreen yourself

well if u wanna avoid resetting
just run the same fleet as him
you'll win out due to 20% attack


ā
rely on torp RNG 
Rely on leander EVA RNG 
LeanderXDās RNG best RNG



nothing is good against nagamon amagi hiryuu
lol
that fleet is fuckin busted from the replays i've seen
this vid has 40% win rate on offense https://www.bilibili.com/video/av39941796
with wasd ent
enty essex centaur probably has the best matchup
Must be Hiryuu Kai or just Hiryuu?
same fleet comp as the one in the other vid
Does wasd monarch have a chance
Kai one
To be āYostar you broke the game againā tier
Last time is nagato right ? Now hiryuu kai
I tested this wasd on offense vs this defense a couple days ago
1 win 9 losses 
with nakaga I had 3 wins 4 losses
nani
keep in mind no one is married on my offense
izumo
obv there can be stuff changed on my fleet to make it a bit better like saint louis
yea
but the premise is wasd doesn't rly have a good matchup vs nagato amagi
THAT FKING DEFENSE FLEET HAS 2 JESUSES IN IT
saint louis is big diff from portkai
honestly wasd looks much better suited than normal nakaga

A reminder that Amagi is shit against planes
assuming she gets lucky
Low HP, Abysmal AA, HE-resistant skill becoming irrelevant
yeah I'll have to try testing with ent over centaur
I just like centaur much more for everything else
i thought u were the one telling me to stop bullying amagi

Go fito eaceh oter
Can you also try monarch
anyways
my monarch isn't high enough level
just fight fire wit hfire
Shikikan, coughcough Iām sick
Go into battle, terminally ill patient!

use nagamon hiryuu
so I'll just leave it to the others to test it
You cant spell shikikan without S

WASD Hiryuu assures you wonāt get bamboozled out of your match
If you canāt get your finger to the reset button in 15 seconds
Mmmmm
Bravo š
what the fuck was yostar thinking
giving hiryuu enterprise stats and a free airstrike
according to the cn pvp tier list writers wasd hiryuu is T -4 (yes that's a negative) vs nakaga

āI want to play a gameā
-YoSAW
So no love fo soryuu
@idle python So winning with WASD Hiryuu will feel satisfying cause of underdog status?
LUL

no
i have 200affection ships for wasd and fox
Not gonna wait 1min + for wasd
As long as that 2500 merits is within reach.
Check the bilibili post within that post for a bit more explanation + equip setups they used
nani
anyways what they're saying is that wasd hiryuu supposedly shits on nakaga https://www.bilibili.com/video/av39619750
wasd hiryuu is next to the T1 row
not as hard as nagato amagi shits on hms
Wow kms pvp fleet
Did people forget fun? Remember fun?
not saying I 100% agree with the tier list (quite a bit of cn people on ALEC disagree with it) but the decision to make negative tiers vs certain matchups is just straight up odd
Negative tiers
uhhh

yea trolling aside
as long as it has washington and south dakota in it
it's not a shit backline

and fun?
win only
oh
uhh
idk i don't like their flavor
it's not interesting
just a boring fleetwide stat boost
no cool skills
and QE is ugly
thonk

not to mention they're never top tier
āKay
except from Sept - Oct 2018
if they were top tier with dork or something i'd consider it
i mean don't get me wrong i have a maxed out QE
Warspiteās despacito, Hoodās barrage, and Dorkās stuff looks cool to me, and smokescreen stuff
i just don't like her or her fleet
yea i guess warspite is ok
but no carriers
no flashy barrages
No visually cool skills? But we are straying into āmuh tastesā territory and that never ends well.
just a small blue pew pew
Wait... Dorkās Barrages aināt flashy?
Hms with low aa is out of meta
Low AA is IJNās shtick
yea that's why i said if they were top tier with dork
Both
Or more like, only USS has high AA
Yeah, my bad, tastes never end well but I thought you donāt like to incorporate aesthetic tastes into consideration
Itās historically accurate
They are both masters at Aviation and Anti-Aviation
Who invented aeroplanes? Kekek

That makes your data unreliable tho
āI donāt use X cause I donāt like how it looks.ā


Not that meaningless discussion again
how does my data have anything to do with what fleets i like to use
Zombie meme
i mean i am always objectively accurate when i give advice to people
so u can trust me to be fair if you ask me a question
but if someone asks me what do I like to use
i just tell them my feelings 

not all of the USS has good aa
all of the ones sunk/hit at pearl have ijn tier AA lol
also i found another debuff ship, and she actually has 100% activation rate
=D
WASDHiryuu is honestly my favourite backline and that was before hiryuu kai
Hms is honestly fine. But it'll lose against optimized wasd fleets, which are a rarity tbh
Really? Coz I see nothing but optimised WASDs
And given I run a fully ringed HMS, its a bitch
man ive been slacking on PvP the past 2 seasons
Interesting. I'm not having much trouble with hms
Most wasd still don't have Aurora which makes it easy
Though we both agree that optimized wasd is a bitch
aurora isnt really a popular defence ship anyways
you might see her a decent amount right now for EN but when we get sendai she wont be a problem
Aurora is great on def
It's what let's you set up cheese fleets
You can absolutely hose someone with jintsuu ayanami shit
if people are smart, they just run CAs into your aurora fleet def
If they're running cas then I count that as a victory
which right now i guess isnt a very good option on EN, but when we get level 110 it will be
Still, opening torp shenanigans can still be mitigated by an opening smoke
Any such frontlines will be gimped anyways once you offset the gimmick
Which meta ships have an opening smoke
ive been doing ok murdering cheese with Minn/Aurora/(eldridge or belfast)
i'd just hit the reset button until torp memes miss me rather than swap Leander in, too lazy for that shit m8
sometimes just using gun works really well xD
Leander and Cygnet all work
Going really all-in on torps weakens the frontline enough that it's gimped otherwise, so you don't need a particularly high-performance ship
If your forced a reset your did your job lmao
Even a team comp switch is a minor victory, imo, but a very minor one tbf
i mean, sure if gensui rush is thing
Though, forcing resets with opening torps isn't a particularly time-wasteful one
since it's like 5 s in
What Rendar said, itās 5 seconds, maybe even less, 3 on average.
I swapped LeanderXD in and no problem with torps ever since.
Same reason why torp teams are still useful on offense in situations where their per-match winrate is lower, the fast resets when you really whiff means it's quite possible to still have lower time taken per win.
Very fast dildos smashing hulls at incredible hihg speed
best backline is jean bart dunkerque and hiryuu
Whereās Enterprise? 
EnterWhoāsInAll50ofYourFleets
what 50 fleets
Want me to pull up quotes?
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...itās okay. Senility is natural. 
y-yeah

yo wa nagato :3
she can't fool me with her old japanese talk
nagato is more of a grandma than mikasa
that's justn umbers tho
I like the way you think. Age is just a number.

good thing amagi is the only ssr
if i get her within 10 cubes i can just farm more for next event
But we all know, Elite is the real rare af treasure in this game.
So issa good thing Amagiās SSR

Elites are indeed rarer
ashigara is meh
She presses her own bob with her thigh thooooo
looks how many Belfasts and Sandies people rolled before getting Aurora
yeah because there are only two ssr
so you have 3.5% chance of pulling belfast or sandy
you have like 0.x % chance to get aurora
i got aurora twice though 

https://puu.sh/Cujnb/851a41324e.png this team has good snyergy, what do you guys think?
You need kisaragi to motivate ark royal, but why uni ?
she has synergy with Lusty, doesn't she?
10/10 Approved
This one better sorry my sandy still lv 99
But... compared to the other 5 there...

Mayaās pretty smol
Flattest of the Takaos
Also the only one with white hair, and black clothes
Sheās adopted gdi
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