Chill out, guys.
#pvp
real notch
silver folio
my argument was u dont need double reppuus because the difference is so minor
and my argument was
u dont need to
they dont "share" gear in the same way theres only 1 gold FCR
real notch
yea i didn't say you need to
lmao
someone stop the strawmanning
plz
i'm getting triggered
silver folio
no but im confused why having 1 suboptimal plane is a big issue
like im confused why u brought up the optimized fleet argument
real notch
are you not going to stay behind the "VF17 is BiS" stance
or are you on the reppuu boat with me now
azure aurora
You two still arguing ?
silver folio
i still think its BiS but we'll go with ur suggestion that reppuu is better.
in any case, whats the issue if u cant run the bis fox and wasd fleet simulatenously
azure aurora
real notch
i'm ready to dipset lmao
he's strawmanning me at lightspeed rates and switching stances like crazy
silver folio
im not though
real notch
well no ok
this is something i can discuss
let's clear up which plane is BiS then
i think that's a pretty important distinction to make
azure aurora
silver folio
u know i'll just concede to u that reppuu is better if it helps u make ur point
azure aurora
silver folio
"u cannot run optmized foxes and wasd fleet simulatenously"
OK, now what
assuming ur statement is true, now what
im confused why u even brought that up in the first place
lowkey thinking if i should even reply
silver folio
no im lost now tbh
real notch
for the purpose of discussion let's find some common ground
silver folio
im not sure how this is relevant to EN meta
the original ar gument was that eldridge is only good on defense if the opponent has enterprise
if enterprise isnt popular in EN meta anymore, then shes not good
real notch
silver folio
then u said "most top 100 in EN are WASD"
and i agreed saying WASD is the best defense fleet
my counterpoint was that it was only for defense, they could easily be using foxes on offense
which eldridge is utter garbage against
and then u said u cannot make an optimal fox fleet and wasd fleet at the same time
and im like "...and? ur not going to lose just because u used a VF17 instead of a repuu"
silver folio
prety sure i know what it is
what u want to say is
"reppuu is better than VF17"
"u cant have an optimized fox fleet and wasd+e fleet at the same time, unless u have 2 reppuus or more"
unless u want to say something else
and i'll concede both those points to u since i dont have the VF17 math on me rn
but ur just throwing out strawmanning here which is making me 
real notch
yea it's pretty important
silver folio
no its not, i can take out the reppuu and still win games
silver folio
the difference is way to minor
u gotta explain why its relevant to the arugment that eldridge is good outside of enterprise on def
because ur saying "reppuu is better"
and im like: "sure, and?"
okay reppuu is better. now continue on with ur point
inazuma (sirrequiem)Today at 1:52 AM
i would say as a general statement, you cannot simultaneously run optimized wasd and foxes
EntyLoverCV6Today at 1:52 AM
u can though
foxes dont share equip with wasd
and i will even say that im wrong and u cant use both of them bis because reppuu is limited.
blazing scroll
My eldridge still performs against foxes 🤔
silver folio
not sure why u even threw that comment in there though because the difference is near-zero
@blazing scroll so does my purple heart too
doesnt make it great
also im assuming ur using eldrdige on offense which means u werent even reading the argument
because we both agreed that eldrdige on offense has uses
blazing scroll
The argument is a real long one 😂
real notch
it's not rly fun discussing like this lol
ur just going left and right front and back
silver folio
no im just confused why u even made that comment
real notch
you're not actually trying to come to some productive conclusion
you're just trying to win an argument
because the moment your stance gets uplifted, you just hop ship and jump on another angle
silver folio
no i feel like ur just calling me a strawman now when im just asking u what point ur trying to make now
i'll even ask what point ur making
im not even attempting to win anything, what point do u want to make?
because ur just gonna keep calling me a strawman and evading my point
azure aurora
Eldridge good vs E you two agree ?
silver folio
yes
azure aurora
Done
lament lichen
Literally theres nothing to discuss here
azure aurora
odd schooner
So many things to backread
But then i saw elana
@EntyLoverCV6#0214 boi how's the monitor strats lmao
Oh. He's dead?
Imma ping him elsewhere
noble gyro
wow 3 attacks left
slow totem
Holy shit
My Minneapolis melts Juneau/Eldridge/Aurora/Jintsuu in the first 10 seconds of battle
Happens consistently too
Shieeeeet, I’m so happy! Finally, a CA that works in PvP!
She survives Akaga airstrikes with Belfast and Eldridge enables her to regenerate via Dullahan (and to cuck E).
10/10 Recommend as a viable Top Rank Wichita.
modern tree
How does she melt anything? Are you using 2 fcrs
modern tree
How do you get her to lock on to anything with 2 CA speed ships? Other vanguard should just be flying past you
slow totem
Beaver badge on one of the ships
modern tree
Obviously your opponent should have that too so it's a non factor
slow totem
Good then. 
pew pew pew boom, dead Aurora
modern tree
When I was trying Suffolk she did hit for like 400 at the time, but she just shot straight ahead so much because of lost target. I wasn't even using Eldridge then so she was not too slow
Is mgm+1 making it this much more reliable?
stable panther
whale
azure aurora
modern tree
Op hakaga gave me a chuckle
azure aurora
Sorry not enough gold baracuda for EAkaga
modern tree
I think it's just 2 dds vs foxes, they die
azure aurora
Mine aux is blue eva + thingy
modern tree
I would run gold sgs or fcrs
azure aurora
Want to use sg radar but too lazy to move it
modern tree
Might as well hit when you hit
modern tree
I would if I was not flaunting my Jintsuu Aurora atm
modern tree
I also wouldn't be using Jintsuu if I wasn't trying to justify grinding for her and then her level for days
azure aurora
Cant wait for lv 120 cap
Especially with pr ship
Con: probably all enemy is nakaga
modern tree
Everyone is gonna be playing Amagi Nagato Hiryuu
Or at least I will make sure everyone in this chat does
azure aurora
That video
Or just ignore that 4 sakura fleet buff , and choose belfast aurora eldridge
Back to juneau then
Time to raise dragon
Doubt her retro will come soon, but just in case
lunar veldt
are the dragons retro actually better then the nuke potential of akaga?
ive not max them on the other servers to test them out
modern tree
Don't know about the duo but Hiryuu alone can solo nagkaga with the final gambit post retro
modern tree
Yeah, like 6 minutes straight of rng
vague token
oh god
pastel forge
man those guys are real fast with their lvling lol. can't say I'm eager for 15 secs stalling pvp meta tho
dull hollow
dragon duo has higher reload but lower HP
the rng launches seem strong tho
gaunt fiber
frontline for hakaga? 
modern tree
Belfast/Jintsuu Juneau Aurora
modern tree
Leander, Eldridge, Ayaya should all be various levels of acceptable. I found that the most important thing is just having moderately aggressive ships to hopefully deal with opposite front around first strike and then just let Juneau heal carry your ass
modern tree
It's probably the least consistent one but if it works, IT REALLY WORKS
But hey, hakaga in general feels really oppressive against bad or undergeared fleets, then you find one good one and get walled for like 5 resets, so get used to that
slow totem
But that’s a big if tho
elder crane
Well, you can just reset until she gets a decent connection
Basically that's how you play torpedo teams on offense, reset immediately if you completely whiff torps
And basically why they're good, even though overall winrate is lower, the faster resets in bad situations means its probably less time taken per win on average.
modern tree
Can just play the superior Enterprise Akaga, it's gross how much better it performs over hood
elder crane
No Enty duels ever again though 
modern tree
Akaga kills Enterprise on second strike cuz vanguard is dead
elder crane
OWARI DA haunts my dreams
modern tree
It's really efficient
elder crane
HAKaga + Torp teams kill Enty on first strike usually and 2nd always (unless you really whiff, but then you've long since reset)
modern tree
I don't even have bis and I have not lost a test game with it so far
slow totem
I use Maximum AA to flex on Foxes Enty
WASD Hood (all gold AA gun), Juneau, Sandy, Belfast.
Optimal? No
Fun if works? Very
elder crane
Also if your frontline gets wiped Entaka can't defend itself at all
slow totem
Pop pop pop, no planes
elder crane
Which I find frustrating (even though it's not really much of a concern)
modern tree
My front never died to anything other than bb aux
slow totem
For even more flexing memery, I switched Hood with NoCal.
WASD NoCal maximum AA flex, all planes be gone
Actually works.
Against Foxes Enty only ofc. 🤣
modern tree
This garbage is really good
elder crane
Defense fleets can really only counter one thing at most
slow totem
Cause if they use those on defense, my AA flexer fleet shits on them.
modern tree
I fought one norcal and laughed at how bad it was at aa
elder crane
also 20% dmg diff means it's not a great comparison
coral wren
Isn’t hms stalling good rn?
coral wren
Ah, ok
slow totem
Sniper fleet
elder crane
And, BBs perform better on offense than defense
since secondary fire works much better for fleet on offense
and the main gun fire on frontline is probably more accurate on offense (since less shell flighttime)
slow totem
So.... this means...
...the usual, Attacker Advantage. Oh well
elder crane
Yeah, the only thing attacker clearly doesn't have advantage in that I can think of is torps, since their frontline hits your backline much easier due to positioning
coral wren
Back to farming 113 aa.. oh wow so much fun..
modern tree
The main power here is Enterprise wiping what's left the front and making way for my fox sakura torp meme, really high backline pressure because of plane suicide too, my Juneau usually sinks if all of the bbs are alive to shell my foxes, healing them befor second strike and securing the win
elder crane
How do you stop Enterprise from wiping your frontline in return though?
Hmm, maybe I need to revisit this, I just assumed sniping her out was the better option
slow totem
There are more than one ways to Rome
One method being good doesn’t invalidate other methods being just as good
Esp with attacker advantage
modern tree
We trade vanguards, but akaga firs and second strike dodges big e timings so she just dies to ryuusei torps
Also my vanguard is expendable after theirs is gone, they just catch bombs and shells for my foxes, get down ms president
Sometimes they torp for big damage if foxes kill everything on first strike
Really one sided games if that happens
I beat up stacked hood wasd with itbwith no sweat, which I assumed would wipe the floor with me due to barrage pressure
coral wren
Should i replace eldridge in wasd def fleet for someone else?
modern tree
But Juneau dying to bb aux fixes that
coral wren
Hm, rn its juneau bel eldridge
slow totem
Well, keep it lol
Not like defense fleet matter, it’s not achieving anything tangible.
coral wren
I-i guess...
elder crane
You can swap her out if you want to specialize, e.g. add Helena in
slow totem
Hellena. :D
elder crane
Basically, give up winning vs some teams to make specific teams have hell vs you
Grief people, cause you're just that kind of person!
modern tree
Belfast Juneau Eldridge is probably the most annoying stalling shit you can employ atm so good work, you did it
slow totem
WASD Hiryuu
elder crane
Add in Hiryuu for even more memes
coral wren
In top 100 on wash it’s almost everyone is using wasd right now...
elder crane
and once we get Hiryuu retro, she's an actual thing
elder crane
WASD with Hiryuu retro seems like it would really wall AKaga teams, force timer to go longer and somewhat invalidate fast launch advantage
slow totem
Yes, even now, WASD Hiryuu negates the main purpose of running foxes
Which is fast wins
If they win slow, you’ve already won, regardless of match results.
elder crane
Yep, and with her retro, Hiryuu actually hits hard enough to really pose a threat it seems
At least that's what CNJP is starting to show, though no consensus yet on if it's normally good as far as I can tell
modern tree
Her kai is like 40 extra aviation, 20 reload and makes her quite beefy. Extra efficency on top of that and suddenly shes quite formidable. Not to mention how dumb just 15 seconds of invulnerability and extra strike is
elder crane
Yep, basically gives her an advanced version of Enty's skill exactly when she needs it, but only once
elder crane
She has Kaga efficiencies, but slightly better in her off-slots after retro
modern tree
Although, pretty sure her retrofit doesn't make that even higher
slow totem
Nice, my Bunnies are MLB, ready for that
*Dragons
They are properly Dragons after Retrofit
🐉
elder crane
Bunny Dragon or Dragon Bunny?
slow totem
Bungon!!
noble gyro
should i use +10 boiler or torp buldge for aurora?
pastel forge
bulge is too good to not use now
slow totem
Bulge ofc, she already has problems surviving
vague token
do you guys use boiler on eldridge?
slow totem
No. Double toolbox but I can see Boiler being used and working
vague token
gotta go fast 
slow totem
I’d pick Bulge but she’s a DD, feelsbadman
vague token
yeah same
pastel forge
rainbow bulge that affect all ships like beaver
slow totem
OwO what’s this...?
pastel forge
technically we have a rainbow bulge aka rainbow dildo
slow totem
velvet fossil
azure aurora
🏳️🌈
high flume
What's the best AA weapon and main gun for CL?
pastel forge
belguns and probably bofors
real notch
generally bofor or twin 113mm
best CL gun is triple 155mm
if they can equip DD guns, use twin 127mm
generally
high flume
Hmmm I am not sure bout the total DPS, but based on the shown stats alone, isn't twin 113mm slightly superior comapred to bofor?
foggy token
you can get around in EN with mostly 113mm and just 1 or 2 bofors
high flume
and the strongest dive bomber rn is purple helldiver correct?
slow totem
Yes
Also, just got matched with an HaKaga - Aurora Jintsuu Ayanami comp, Aurora at front
Used Minneapolis in middle, she melted Aurora in the first 10 or so seconds. FeelsGoodMan
Actually viable CA at lvl 100. I’m in love.
Plus her Monster Hunter-esque tribal aesthetics and I’m a MonHun fan.
coral wren
Do yuou think shark would melt her even faster?
slow totem
Deutschland? Still low level so can’t say, feel free to try tho.
coral wren
nah. mine is low level as well 😦
slow totem
real notch
god damn
azure aurora
Thats good idea
Will try raise desuland
Took 1week+
But stat wise i think not as good as minne
coral wren
#sadistickrautlolirapesbongs
slow totem
Maximum Heal for Prinz
slow totem
200 IQ
real notch
real notch
some solid test material here
hot creek
lol i wanna make a healz fleet now
hot creek
got a ton of of useless AM65 and Meme-155As
slow totem
Investment for W12
real notch
slow totem
And Nagato
odd schooner
Sendai Aurora Jintsuu
slow totem
slow totem
SHIEEEEEEET
slow totem
what’s the memest comp that push Ykkz’s memery to higher dimension?
odd schooner
Juneau Belfast Ykkz
slow totem
Backline too please
real notch
basically wipe vanguard asap
and have her dance around in front of backline for ages
i think? 
slow totem
WASD Hiryuu Retro - Ykkz, Belfast, Juneau
Even if the NaKaGa win, they win slow, which means your goal is achieved
real notch
alright i'm done with these meme ass resets
slow totem
Sirreq’s broken?
real notch
Kamita (south dakota, washington, enterprise | juneau, jintsuu, belfast) 13.2/12.5
current fleet (south dakota, washington, enterprise | belfast, jintsuu, aurora) 13.2/12.8
game 1 - loss (sodak focused strike)
game 2 - win
game 3 - win
game 4 - win
game 5 - win
game 6 - win
game 7 - win
game 8 - win
game 9 - win
game 10 - win
*Note: all wins were fairly close matches
Ykkz-sama Nanodie.
slow totem
Nothing like proccing Iron Bottom for Juneau and Ykkz to heal
Do it all over again.
Oh, and Pearl’s Tear too
real notch
alright i think i ended with a pretty solid comp
lime rivet
One min i had a near dead sodak
Then before my backline could fire again
It fucking healed
lime rivet
And I had to kill it all over again 
real notch
honestly this meta seems pretty ResidentSleeper
real notch
the new additions are stronger for sure but not AMAZING
they are just marginal upgrades
lime rivet
This is why side sodak/washy centres are annoying
slow totem
Blame WASD for enabling staller to transcend to new dimension.
slow totem
The last spot being Hiryuu is a very sweet icing on the cake.
real notch
i thought jintsuu + aurora would bring them back to tier 0
lime rivet
No nagato
slow totem
WASD Hiryuu Kai would legit cockblock foxes to eternity and beyond, even with Nagato.
lime rivet
No sendai/ykkz
slow totem
You reset? Bad
You win? Cool, but you won slow. Which is bad for Foxes.
real notch
i still haven't tried twinfox + jintsuu aurora eldridge front yet
slow totem
slow totem
Aurora and Jintsuu are incredibly frail for some reason
Always die at 1st round of BB shelling, yikes.
real notch
oh mb i think that's including 200 affection
real notch
yea prob with jintsuu is like
dildo and rainbow mags are most efficient on her
so she performs if she's middle slot
anywhere else and she gets melted
lime rivet
Same tbh
real notch
aurora is more priority than jintsuu atm imo
real notch
LOL
lime rivet
Bel/Aurora/Leander is practically fucking required
real notch
it's actually really satisfying
seeing your shells actually land on vanguard
with aurora
slow totem
With Minne working, I am trying to see if Desuland works in the same way too.
Like, 3-4 shots and Aurora is gasping for life.
lime rivet
At least with Leander aurora doesn't die if you are lucky with smokescreen positioning. She still fucking dies if anything hits tho
gaunt fiber
do you give BBs hit equipment like sg radars? 
real notch
ye
slow totem
I do. 
coral wren
Hm, there is a bigger chance we will be getting winter crown first, not nagato?
lime rivet
@coral wren uh
slow totem
“Aurora fucking dies”
Should be a headline in London newspaper
And people be like, “Yeah, and water is wet.”
coral wren
good, then no worries about that amagi+nagato+hyuga bonkers setup..
lime rivet
Ahahaha
lime rivet
Wasd hiryuu kai lets fucking go
coral wren
hm, i don't think so, let me scroll up..
slow totem
Even Sandy Kai comes first.
lime rivet
@slow totem THATS WHAT WE SAID ABOUT AMAGI
real notch
hiryuu kai 1v4'ed a nagato, akagi, kaga, and jintsuu
lime rivet
BUT NO
slow totem
LOOOOOOOOL!!!!!
lime rivet
MANJUU CEO
lime rivet
All bets are off, lads
slow totem
Madame CEO, please.
slow totem
Think of the children
They gonna nerf Hiryuu Kai, right?
Just like they nerfed PomPoms, right?
real notch
manjuu ceo
coral wren
Don't tell me during those 15 mins he haven't won once?
slow totem
Akashi’s Boss
real notch
tbh if they don't nerf hiryuu kai
non-ijn fleets will start using hiryuu kai
i swear
lmao
coral wren
holy shit
slow totem
Yostar pls
coral wren
WHy would they do that tho
azure aurora
Fear the dragon
stable panther
For fun?
coral wren
I think they jsut don't give a fuck about pvp and their game designers aren't taking it into consideration when tweaking things
stable panther
Now that's just rude
real notch
real notch
it's like someone walked into the office and asked "does anyone know what powercreep is"
LET ME SHOW YOU
stable panther
I mean, if you say that about collab boats, then yeah. Yostar don't even try at making collab boats
stable panther
TBH, I just want houshou (that's the one with guns, right?) to have firepower
slow totem
Collab boats are deliberarely subpar
azure aurora
that hiryuu kai
slow totem
Because if they are good, players who don’t get them will feel cheated on
stable panther
There's subpar and there's absolutely junk
slow totem
My point still stands.
stable panther
Most of the collab boats are junks
slow totem
On my limited collabs are bad
The WoWs collabs are good because everyone can get them
stable panther
When the best praise is decent, it's still kinda sad to hear
Especially when it's applied rarely
slow totem
Indeed, but I understand the decision
azure aurora
We don't really care about tier except for pvp and *3 map
slow totem
On making Limited Collab ships bad/junk/trash/subpar/whatever the term you prefer.
coral wren
only wasd can deal with bunny
slow totem
Akashi, Rodney, Nelson, Thatcher, Javelin
azure aurora
Ok don't remember her
lime rivet
Thatcher is cute
azure aurora
But not op cute like Nicholas
slow totem
Has a similar Love quote as Saratoga too
high flume
Is it worth to retrofit Ayanami if I want to use JP PvP fleet after nagato got released? (Will ayanami becomw staple frontline in JP PvP fleet?)
pastel forge
I'd say retro her anyway, usable on pvp very good on pve
slow totem
@high flume No, she won’t, but doesn’t mean you can’t use her.
She’s very solid Torp DD regardless
coral wren
Hm, also, i noticed that on daxam's video it's mostly lucky e with wasd. But isn't essex more powerful than her right now? Or am i missing smth
blazing scroll
My ayaya often outperforms WaSdE in dmg
Her torps can hit like trucks, especially on the backline
lime rivet
Yeah, but first they have to actually hit
In any case its still worth retrofitting her since she's incredible in pve and still has some use as a stand-in for pvp
hot creek
torp squads on offense is meme. but whatever, as long as you don't mind continuous resettting until they hit something.
blazing scroll
I am having fun with it
wise summit
I haven't had to reset to win anything even with bad E/torp RNG this past week since switching to Belf/Jint/Aurora frontline for Akaga E
waiting to see if I come up against any brick walls of unwinnable matchup, which were an issue for me in the pre-aurora pre-magtorp
era. basically right after Washington became prevalent fox life became shitty
but now it's great again
coral wren
I wish meta moved away from lucky e
modern tree
I struggled a bit with hms/wasdhood using Akaga E, but then I started running Juneau in the middle so my foxes get just enough hp after trading vanguards to clean house. Akaga E is fast and dumb
And Enterprise will probably never go away cuz it's a really good crutch for new players even in the world where everyone is prepared to face her
silver folio
@slow totem i think they make collab ship shit because they afraid that people who didnt get them would be salty
so if they were very strong ppl would be whining and asking for re-runs...
with event ship like washington they can simply do the re-runs anytime they want (no licensing issues)
slow totem
Yea, that’s what I kept saying on why Collab Ships are deliberately made to be shitty.
real notch
@wise summit have u had the problem of ur vanguard getting shredded by uss backline tho
Cus i run the same vanguard
wise summit
you get 2 torpedo volleys off even if uss bb backline destroys them and they're finished by second fox strike
have not experienced any issue with USS
real notch
torpedo volley is about 22 sec CD so you will fire at the intervals:
1 - 5:00
2 - 4:38
3 - 4:16
wise summit
yup
real notch
since i am testing wasd backline, usually by 2 vanguard is not dead
wise summit
my vanguard against heavy BB backline dies after 2
real notch
and by 3 my vanguard is either crippled or fully dead
wise summit
but that doesn't matter because fox strike 2 will clean them out
real notch
are u able to wipe vanguard usually by fox strike 2?
wise summit
yes
real notch
yee ok when i was testing foxes it was like that too
felt like a 80%ish success chance
sometimes it would be like a belfast or a cleveland still standing
which is a huge waste of fox strike 2 when they have to bomb 1 low HP vanguard LOL
wise summit
I have actually had incidents like that where there's still 1 20%hp belfast by fox strike 2 but letting it play out I still win
real notch
hmm ok
wise summit
minus the last 3%
real notch
i had some pretty unconvincing results tbh against wasd but my jintsuu wasn't maxed so
maybe i will retry with foxes again
my thing was that
the fox adjacent to washington
would sometimes just die
and then GG
it's really hard to win with just 1 fox remaining
before 4:24
wise summit
i found a non-oathed but looks high-end wasde with eldridge helena belfast, trying to reset until they proc lucky E and mine doesn't to see if I still win
well crap
the circumstances aligned but I accidentally won against them for 9 points
the first torpedo volley completely whiffed the vanguard too but seriously messed up the backline
real notch
high end wasd E should be like
13k / 12.4 ish
maxed is 13.2/12.6 or something
vanguard rly depends
yea if lucky E doesn't proc that's monkaS 
wait are you using twinfox + ent?
wise summit
yes
modern tree
white haired girls love their torp bombers
hot creek
its that time of season again
modern tree
not for you, you play on Sandy, nobody rushes anything on Sandy
hot creek
Ill do it
and take the +9 point penalty
I could reach 2200 even after ten +9's.
but i'd probably have to eat a couple +8 too
modern tree
I can tank 7 nines but I will chill and see if anyone even goes for it
hot creek
who's the lucky guy who has me in their pvp lobby i wonder
since I already lost one match this season i probably won't bother with tryharding points anymore
but then again I did somehow get top 3 one season with a lost match
modern tree
#sandy
hot creek
daxam, find me and pvp and ill give you bonus points
final granite
When will you get 9 points instead of 10?
modern tree
what rank are you, I might do it
hot creek
94 right now
modern tree
I am 75 so rip
hot creek
lol
modern tree
I mean, I did lose one game but I guess I farm too much
hot creek
@final granite when you battle someone lower ranked than you.
I kind of gave up on farming after i lost that match
final granite
@hot creek even if it’s just 1 rank below?
hot creek
yep.
modern tree
if you fight anyone with less points than you you get -1 point from your reward, and it scales just like bonus points after that
so about 35 points difference is 8 points instead of 10 and so on
final granite
I see
hot creek
refreshed leftmost person is usually like 14 points above, right?
maybe I can do a match or two and you can find me, then ill do the rest
lofty smelt
Some guy in Lex apparently said screw it and now he's at 221X with second being at like 2151 lol
He has another match too. 2170 or somethin before that.
hot creek
yolo
lofty smelt
Not that I blame him for just taking the merit but lol
I need to wait to get an extra 2 points for admiral 😦
hot creek
wew
sharp seal
grats! im just happy i got gensui after missing exercises 
sharp seal
modern tree
Meanwhile on Sandy zzz
lofty smelt
Lex is also a bit zzz
hot creek
https://puu.sh/CrGHd/1a5ff02f52.png found daxam 😄
modern tree
Good luck
hot creek
https://puu.sh/CrGPm/04c211af09.png hyper offensive meme vanguard prevails
modern tree
Neat
hot creek
if i fight my current leftmost now I'd have to eat a +8
time to roll the dice with refresh again
modern tree
Leander smoke is so good against torp memes
elder crane
Frickin lost a match during the gensui rush, there goes getting that this reset
I need to pay more attention 
hot creek
killing enemy juneau 10 seconds in the match feelsgoodman.
elder crane
Already lost a match earlier, so had only 7 pts to work with, so a full fail is pretty
I've had once the miracle set of opening torps that immediately sniped out Juneau
That was satsifying!
hot creek
https://puu.sh/CrH2v/2474004bbe.png ate a couple +9 and still have one match left. #worth
elder crane
Which casual server is this, being able to get that far ahead
Congrats though, now you can just do whatever without too much worry :3
hot creek
Sandy. TriEasy server. where you can lose one match and still get top 3 at the end of the season somehow.
elder crane
2200 is rank 22 on Avrora
Top rank is already 2219
And the true tops at end of season will be holding onto matches right now
#tryhardAvrora
modern tree
hot creek
maybe they're all secrectly TriHards and just waiting for all their opponents to do their matches
no need to gensui rush when you know you're gonna be top 10 by the end of the season anyways taps head
hot creek
real notch
Owo
Lol nice
Yeah switch is pretty consistently r1 in avrora
Masterful sandbagging and waiting
hot creek
if this wasd meta or wasd/amagi meta continues until winter's crown releases, I wonder will Victorious be viable?
nvm. 20% flat buff against battleships is kind of garbage compared to enty's 70% chance of x2 damage against all
even with HMS buffs lol
whatever, Ill still ring and max her anyways cause I like her.
vague token
waiting for centaur personally
2/2/4 fighter/fighter/torps, gets extra swordfish +slow (although it's on hit)
and backline firepower (and aviation) buff
also 5712 base hp lol
like what even xD
lofty smelt
AotN without sandbagging again 
native mantle
how? i win all fights i do all exercises but it just looks like that
slow totem
Either:
-You didn’t pick the leftmost guy and win every time
-You missed a lot of matches
-Both
native mantle
i just loosed 1 match in that entire season and yeah sometimes i wasn't able to take the leftmost guy cause i wasn't able to beat him
native mantle
just refresh if i can't beat the leftmost?
elder crane
If you can't do leftmost, at least try to do people not lower rank than you
And yes, just reset then
slow totem
Yeah, but you can only refresh 5 times a day, so it’s not a universal solution.
lofty smelt
@slow totem no sandbag is cool life
slow totem
What I like the most is that I can get my sleep back.
I have reached top 3rd end of season, once, that was enough for risking my health for virtual ranks that lasts for 5 minutes before being reset.
lofty smelt
Oof. I just do it for the merit. I stop playing after this 
slow totem
That’s me now. Well, me ever since that top 3rd tryhard thing.
I concluded, Not Worth yo
lofty smelt
coral wren
izu are on sandy?
coral wren
nobody plays on wash but me
slow totem
coral wren
ded game ded server
lofty smelt
Imagine not having a maxed meta fleet on wash smh
coral wren
I've only seen maxed fleets here in top 20 or smth
Most of the time it's some weird shit like wasd+hel and clev
lofty smelt
dead server 
slow totem
coral wren
slow totem
Washy Washy
coral wren
we ain't getting bunny retro on en, right? At least not on 10 january
daring agate
Lol i fought 2 times against you earlier harcourt
I remembered because of ur defend fleet 
daring agate
defense team
slow totem
daring agate
Not sure if Lexington is TriHard as much as Avrora though
This season I didnt miss any match and pretty good in terms of point
daring agate
silver folio
avrora is pretty ridiculous, i stopped pvping
too lazy to bother using all my entries now lol
lime rivet
I just hit fleetadmiral on avrora once and pretty much gave up
Literally impossible to get gensui if you don't spread attacks. Gotta sandbag too
coral wren
Yeah, i'm spreading attacks as well for getting +11/13 more often but once you miss some of exercises it's flushed down the toilet, lol
silver folio
@lime rivet as a test, i used all my entries on reset, never missed a single exercise
you NEED some level of sandbagging or gensui is rip now imo
so then i was like fk dat lol and took it chill
coral wren
Gold hellcars or gold seadanfs for foxes?
silver folio
v17 is great
coral wren
Oh cool
silver folio
do u have reppuu?
coral wren
Nope xD
silver folio
i would use reppuu and vf17 before using hellcat and seafangs
coral wren
Yeah. I have 2 seafanfs and 1 hellcat and 1 v17 so far
coral wren
Alright ty
charred sable
real notch
avroras not THAT bad but then i haven't been in other servers
xd
rank 1 gensui is totally possible
u just gotta... camp a bit
xd
just sandbag until the +10 matches, then just burn them all
charred sable
Or you get lucky and get a +12er
...followed by two +11's immediately after. How is this even possible
...make that three +11s
and now Im fighting the current r2, so four?
Got Fleet Admiral thanks to those 6 bonus points despite missing 4 attacks this season
livid fractal
Nice
lime rivet
I love cultured fleet comps
livid fractal
daring agate
In Lexington it's pretty okay i guess. I havent missed any of my matches this season yet. And i got 1 match left to spare. It's the second circle from the gensui rush too.
hybrid tendon
meta still havent changed for me
those jintsuu aya lineup are great and all
but they are paper thin
odd schooner
They save more time on gensui rush
Das about it
Cause killing anyone off in less than 40s is their specialty
slow totem
BOOOOM
odd schooner
Actually i think i was saved by the fleet earlier 
I was pushed back from 6 to 14 immediately after i got gensui
slow totem
Oof
odd schooner
Technically gensui rush only applies to ppl who missed matches
Better to have an alternative when got hit by it
hot creek
lmao only got a single T4 box from today's raid also Hood failed to proc like 2/3 times during the raid
but I got a bofors from the box so all is forgiven.
finally have 6 bis AA for pvp now. 4 bofors and 2 ufos
slow totem
Ayy Ayy Lmao
coral wren
6 ufos vs 6 bofors
odd schooner
Mix 
coral wren
Good thing i have neither and still win with ease
urban coral
lmao
slow totem
THE BEAUTY OF RNG-BASED COMBAT!
high flume
Is it better to set Triple 155mm as Juneau's main gun instead of twin 127mm?
hot creek
consensus says the DD gun is better because more DPS.
high flume
How bout twin150mm (TbtsK) purple , is it better than Twin 127mm? twin 150mm has pretty good reload time for CL weapon right?
slow totem
Juneau usually equips DD guns like her Atalanta-class Sisters
But doesn’t matter
Her purpose is to die anyway lol
high flume
But for normal CL (can't equip DD guns), Twin 150mm Tbtsk (purple) generally more preferred over twin 150mm right? unless her name is Belfast
slow totem
Yeah.
slow totem
I equip belguns on all my cruisers except Edinburgh
But #gameplay-help looooves the Tbtsk
subtle whale
for pve tbtsk better
high flume
But is the long CD + No HE damage buff worth tho?
slow totem
On Edinburgh? She buffs AP
subtle whale
cept for world 9-10 cus of the amount of dd bosses
slow totem
Belfast buffs HE
high flume
Nah..on normal CL (helena, Cleveladn, etc)
coral wren
Also, you usually wants bofors to be on vanguard ships, right?
slow totem
I use belgun on all except Edin but #gameplay-help would lynch me for saying that
So whatever
subtle whale
you use bofors when you dont have any donuts
slow totem
I mix Roomba and Bofors, both are among the best, I like the former more because of the flexing 35 range
coral wren
dunkin donuts?
high flume
TF is roomba?
high flume
owh lmao
coral wren
Hm, the logic is to proc donuts on vanguard as many times as possible, while rear can proc aa only once and that should be bofors with higher dmg and shsittier cd
am i right?
slow totem
Roomba has high damage and range, but shit cooldown
For Auto, which is 99% of my games (inc pvp), I prefer Roomba
Range is king in Auto
high flume
Roomba is better on ship that has decent AA stats imo
silver folio
Daily reminder Enterprise is the best ship in the game, good day all.
slow totem
Best ship is Purin and Bulin
coral wren
I doubt that, lol
slow totem
Checkmate
silver folio
coral wren
I think essex has something to say about it
slow totem
Your life would suffer without them
hidden wyvernBOT
slow totem
Essex is Enty’s Fangirl
subtle whale
daily reminder that nagato is the best ship
slow totem
So...
subtle whale
essex is anti aviation avation unit
slow totem
She idolizes Enty. Cuuuute
silver folio
During battle: increase own Air Power and Anti-Air stats by 1.5% (5%) for every Eagle Union CV and/or CVL in the fleet.
literally
made for enterprise
easy USS fleet
high flume
Enty herself >>>> Enty's fangirl simple mafth
silver folio
^
silver folio
I just run Enterprise with Cranes though
coral wren
Can rear proc donuts thrice in pvp? For each plane wave
silver folio
whats donuts?
silver folio
@high flume shou/zui, cutest sisters in the game
subtle whale
shou and zui
slow totem
Shou/Zuikaku
silver folio
U just delete the entire enemy vanguard at the 20s mark its hilarious
subtle whale
doesnt fox sister do a better job
slow totem
@subtle whale Saint Louis is Eagle
hidden wyvernBOT
subtle whale
i thought st louis is eagle
silver folio
if i have to listen to akagis laugh one more time im throwing my phone
pastel forge
you got them mixed up I think
subtle whale
saint louis is the not eagle one
silver folio
saint louis is omelette du fromage lol
high flume
W-wait....chotto a second, Akagi's not cute????
subtle whale
saint louis = iris libre
high flume
dude cmon
slow totem
Wait wait wait
subtle whale
st louiseagle
pastel forge
how to mod akagi's laugh out of the game
subtle whale
slow totem
WOKE AF boiiiii
subtle whale
bye deleting the game
silver folio
nothing cute about being chained to a wall tbh
coral wren
@real notch help me out, fam.
subtle whale
saint louis gonna the first pr ship i grind for~
silver folio
when a girl steps on me, i dont think "thats cute," but "step on me more bb"
subtle whale
and then ibuki
high flume
Dude cmon, even her laugh is my morning alarm
slow totem
In the new manga chapters, Saint Louis looked drunk af
high flume
Never fail wake me up in fear
silver folio
how is that cute
also when u and ur opp play both foxes the laughs synch up and then uget brain damage
high flume
LMAO
silver folio
and ur phone lags out from the 99999 planes on screen
slow totem
I did
slow totem
I’m a sucker for Purins
pastel forge
I missed 10 attempts early. just lvling ships now
slow totem
Seeing Purins lined up give me a weird sense of satisfaction
wise summit
silver folio
tbh if that happened i think it'd just be all wasd e comps since they're the most reliable atm
high flume
Marry ur purin bro..then limit break another ship with her....10/10 brutal
slow totem
🔥 
🔥
silver folio
i mean its already all wasd e comps but then i wouldnt even be able to meme anymore