pvp

[stable panther]

Charlie is definitely the answer for fun time vanguard

[abstract cypress]

i want uss ships release faster

i like uss

anything i have

since our lvl capped out to 100, using CAs is the best option

since evade impact getting weaker

wichita just sunk

[coral wren]

zombie squad aka akashi, unicorn/shouhou, phoenix

[stable panther]

Use kms fleet

[real notch]

oof

just tested against maxed wasd and had some unconvincing victories there

they were running radar E tho so that proced a few times

[hot creek]

eldridge is your friend

[blazing scroll]

Top quality dmg negation 👌

[spiral hull]

sheeeeet

i forgot to do my exercises yesterday

[coral wren]

Should i actually start building hms setup 🤔 have warspite, but don't really wanna waste 3 bullins on her ass and we still have no info when dork is coming...

I wish they gave her retrofit, she is sooo niche

[blazing scroll]

I find hms a bit lacking atm

[knotty parcel]

hms is hella strong with neptune and monarch

but i don't think warspite is worth hte investment

[hot creek]

I love warspite as a character so maxing her and going with HMS was an easy decision.

[knotty parcel]

she's worth if you like her for sure

what i'm wondering is who should i switch out for aurora between eldridge belfast and juneau

[coral wren]

eldridge when there is no enty i guess..

[mental sierra]

Man, this is super annoying

left most person is exactly 34 points higher than me

which means not enough

[odd schooner]

Just wait for onslaughter for 6+ more hours

This is fun. When juneau Belfast dies, fortune gets faster

[mental sierra]

6+ hours, you say?

🔫

[odd schooner]

Ye

[odd schooner]

I'm just gonna set an alarm for shuvi. It's getting late here. Hope he push tho

[sick jasper]

So get eldridge?

[coral wren]

Eeh... isn't it too late for her? Unless you like her as a ship ofc, we've got aurora as a replacement for her for the upcoming torpedo fiesta

[modern tree]

no, dont get her, let me play with Ark

I also love how Aurora is "replacing" Eldridge, keep telling people that, so I can play with Ark

[coral wren]

With infinite resets it doesn't really matter

[modern tree]

the correct answer to the question if you should get Eldridge is: Do you hate losing to Enterprise wiping your front in 70% of your attempts? If yes, get her and level her she is relatively low investment considering all she really needs is blue gun toolbox and another health item which will be boiler/toolbox/pearl or whatever

obviously you can pimp her our but that doesnt matter

[dark nova]

Eh I just accept that vanguards get wiped eventually and backlines do all the carrying anyway

[modern tree]

disclaimer is that you can only ever LB her with purins and she will eat a lot of blue books so it might not be the best solution for this problem

I'd grab her for collection anyways if you dont need the purins RIGHT NOW

since purins is the only valuable thing you can relly get for the merits anyways

[coral wren]

@dark nova have you cleared chapter 9?

[dark nova]

Nope, I'm a slacker

might go rush it later since ch10 is out tomorrow

Need jintsuu

[coral wren]

Oh, ok. was going to suggest you start preparing for nakaga... at least for now aya+jintsuu will hurt alot

[sick jasper]

Poeple said eldridge is good

But aurora better?

[coral wren]

But jintsuu is in chapter 10..

[dark nova]

I've been prepping for nakaga for ages now, my foxes are both oathed and 200 and decked out lol

[sick jasper]

Whos nakaga?

[dark nova]

nagato + akagi + kaga

[coral wren]

just anticipating things

[modern tree]

Eldridge is entirely different kind of ship and comparing her to Aurora is really weird.

Its a pick between offense (Aurora) and defense(Eldridge)

[sick jasper]

Rn im using this

Who fits better? Eld or auro

And replace who

[coral wren]

enty for hood

[sick jasper]

Dont have hood

[coral wren]

don't really remember what was about vanguard with this kind of setup

[sick jasper]

I dont knew anything about this game i just get what people say me to get

[dark nova]

if you're gonna run triple carrier backline you want your frontline alive

[sick jasper]

Im a new nub

[coral wren]

june for aya, bel mid and top is your choice between el/aur iirc

[modern tree]

Aurora fits better, kick Helena for her

and it will be fine

[sick jasper]

Who shall i listen to daxam or chrysalis

[coral wren]

w8 for @real notch

😄

[sick jasper]

Hes good?

[coral wren]

That nerd knows some serious shit

[modern tree]

If you want to make this composition work really well with the least work you kick helena for any other good ship because Helena does nothing for Akagi and Kaga. You will also level your shit to 100

[sick jasper]

Dont have anough gold bunnys to make them max limit

[modern tree]

if you want to improve it, Juneau or Aurora should do it

[coral wren]

But anyway, i'm talking from the point of long time investments

[dark nova]

Level is a huge factor, if you intend to make pvp easier you'll want to get them to 100 asap since it's a 2% damage dealt/taken difference per level difference

you're literally dealing 20% less damage and taking 20% more with a level 90 vs 100

and limit breaking gives your backline more planes

[sick jasper]

I dont have anough bunnys

[modern tree]

If you lack purins you should check if you can 3 star some maps in pve to get them first instead of worrying about a side activity like pvp

[sick jasper]

[dark nova]

that's fine, it's a progress thing

[sick jasper]

All maps are 3 starts

Im at 6-1

Didnt play after

[dark nova]

you should be able to clear ch6 with your stuff

that'll give you another purin

make sure to check medal exchange for gold purins too

[sick jasper]

Any stages in ch6 i should farm for good boata

Boats*

[dark nova]

ch6 is where you start getting t3 parts

not really meant for boat farming unless you want yuudachi for collection

but yeah if you can't get gold purins at the moment you can always level your elite ships instead

helena may not be super helpful for for fox backline but having her at 100 will be useful

much easier to limit break

[sick jasper]

Ye im leveling the 3 starters for aya

I use fleet 2 to level

[native mantle]

@sick jasper that QE would i just switch later or tirpitz cause no tirpiz buff with a 2nd BB/BC

[sick jasper]

Ah i didnt look at tirpitz skill before

Dont think tirpitz will be good later so imma switch her out

Dont have that good backrow

[native mantle]

QE, hood and dork is a good HMS backline IIRC

with belfast, fortune kai and juneau?

[coral wren]

y, but we don't have dork on en atm

[native mantle]

aye i hope we get winbter crown next

[coral wren]

Would be breddy gud

[native mantle]

@sick jasper i would say use QE + 2 other viable HMS backliners and farm fortune/juneau

[sick jasper]

I have fortune and juneau

Use them?

[native mantle]

ya ahve belfast?

and aurora?

[sick jasper]

I jave belfast

And not aurora

I can sent u all my boats if u want

To help me pick

[native mantle]

enty, akaga+juneau, belfast and eldrige was a thing too or I'm wrong?

[sick jasper]

Idk only playing sins recent

Dont know much about the game

[native mantle]

I'm more asking the others^^

[dark nova]

juneau/belfast/eldridge should work with enty/akaga backline

goal is to keep frontline alive if you run triple carrier backline

because if your frontline wipes, your carriers are at a huge disadvantage if they still have a frontline

but as mentioned before, your team comp won't matter as much if you don't level up your ships first

[native mantle]

aye but her Enety+akaga seems good leveled no diea about frontline^^

*ida

**idea

[dark nova]

his foxes are only 90

[native mantle]

aye but better then elvel 40^^

[sick jasper]

Only helena is low lvl

But imma swicth her for eldrige

And switch leffay for juneau

Eld is lvl 1

And jun is lvl 30 i think

[dark nova]

Yeah, just work on leveling for now

[native mantle]

i do the same for my HMS fleet atm^^ leveling and elveling^^

1:1 ofc

[sick jasper]

whats a hms fleet

[dark nova]

UK ships

with queen elizabeth

[sick jasper]

i got queen

[native mantle]

QE+hood+dork/Monarch/Warspite and belfast+juneau+fortune kai

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B-kGGh6rHk7PlXQDkAl8bOGPUMp0oncVFeJAzSjdEgg/htmlview#

just look in there^^

@sick jasper

[sick jasper]

where u get dork/monarch

[dark nova]

they aren't out on EN yet

[sick jasper]

so i cant make it

[native mantle]

/wiki winter crown

[strange moat]

No ship found

[native mantle]

/wiki duko

[strange moat]

No ship found

[native mantle]

/wiki duke

[strange moat]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Duke_of_York

[native mantle]

@sick jasper any hood/warthat ya got?

*warspite

[coral wren]

I still wonder what is the appeal of monarch, since she is slightly worse than york and absolutelly pain in the ass to get

[sick jasper]

nope

[native mantle]

that silly research shit

[sick jasper]

where i get them?

[native mantle]

both are medal exchange

or build IIRC

/wiki hood

[strange moat]

Z23 Sensei

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Hood
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Hood/History

Dec 20, 2018, 3:07 PM

[native mantle]

/wiki Warspite

[strange moat]

Z23 Sensei

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Warspite
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Warspite/History

Dec 20, 2018, 3:07 PM

[native mantle]

@sick jasper i would say jsut go with that akaga setup anyways if ya dunno have good HMS backliners

[dry socket]

ent+akaga or hood+akaga?

I don't find much of a difference when there's an abundance of planes for Ent to use as well

[native mantle]

with 3x planes ya need a strong vanguard

IIRC

[dry socket]

operation rainbow procs consistently enough to save the :20 seconds in attacks

though countering akaga with akaga is something I'm stuck on

[native mantle]

IIRC ya need JB or WASD to counter akaga

[coral wren]

belfast is enough 😄

[native mantle]

wasn't belfast only for enty?

[coral wren]

jb and essex for nakaga

[native mantle]

then what counter WASD?

[coral wren]

no, eldridge is for enty

bel is too, but alot less

then what counter WASD?
resets 😄 hms should work just fine

[native mantle]

na i mean for what counter ya use WASD?

@coral wren

[coral wren]

ah, it's just a very solid setup overall. On cn it's even stronger than it is on en

[native mantle]

aye but someone said that WASD counter a special setup

[coral wren]

Hm, akaga i suppose

But that changes with yukikaze 😄

[native mantle]

aye but JB would then counter akaga again^^

[coral wren]

Why do many ppl use Juneau?

on pvp

[bitter escarp]

Juneau increases the effective hp of your entire fleet by 25%, you’re at an HP disadvantage if you don’t have Juneau

[coral wren]

Ohh

[blazing scroll]

I don't even run Juneau

Don't find a need to

[bitter escarp]

Juneau is a bitch to raise, not worth the effort

[blazing scroll]

I use bel, eld, aya vanguard which works perfectly fine

[native mantle]

juneau is nice too cause she heals when she dies^^

[grave gale]

Juneau potentially increases the effective HP by 25% if she dies at the right time

If she dies too early or too late then she doesn't do a lot for you

It's very easy for Juneau to die early on with Enterprise. If she dies on the first lucky e then most of the heal on the back will be wasted

If you pair her with Eldridge then sometimes your backline dies before Juneau does

[blazing scroll]

I often kill her before my first lucky e

But isn't combining with eldridge a bit overkill?

[grave gale]

A lot people do that.

[blazing scroll]

Yeah I know but I have my doubts

[grave gale]

I feel like Juneau is a bit overrated. She's good but not always good

[blazing scroll]

Exactly

[grave gale]

half the time her spot will be wasted because she died at a bad time

[blazing scroll]

And using her with Eldrigde raises the chance she dies too late to do any good

[grave gale]

Yup. I ran them together for a while and kept noticing that

Someone in the back would be dying and I'd be hoping my Juneau would die first

[bitter escarp]

Tis why I’m trying to replace either eld or Juneau with Aurora

[modern tree]

After a lot of playtesting I found that pearl on Juneau seems to be serving me quite well if I run her with Eldridge, but that might just be a virtue of the wasd enterprise, where all the ships are obnoxiously tanky for one reason or other so even 2 rainbows do not end up delying juneau sinking for long enough that the heal is irrelevant

but I am largely done with wasd enty after this season, this comp is really fucking boring

it wins a lot but man

[native mantle]

@grave gale so a HMS backline with QE+fortune, belfast is good and i should replace juneau somehow?

[coral wren]

aurora

is quite nutty

[modern tree]

I ran Eldridge instead of Juneau in HMS because with 20% damage boost you usually end up slaying backline in 1-2 volleys so the only factor is "do I die to Enterprise"

Heal didnt seem to do as much as making my belfast/fortune front survive longer than 20 seconds when faced with E

also lets you aim your HMS at Wash which is arguably a better target

I'd stay away from Aurora on HMS because she doesnt do anything for the strategy btw

[blazing scroll]

Aurora is more useful with foxes

[modern tree]

unless you really like gambling with 410s shooting the front accurately

Or you are bad enough dude to experiment with shit like Belfast, Aurora, Leander/Suffolk/big damage bote

You can guess which one I am

[blazing scroll]

[real notch]

Ye im thinking the same thing

Been doing some theory testing for the last hour and ive confirmed a few things about fox aurora fleets

It seems with aurora you have to clear enemy vanguard before 2nd airstrike

Otherwise you basically lose

If your second airstrikes bombs are wasted on a 30% hp cleveland or belfast you basically lose

[modern tree]

thats my very old strategy for beating foxes, just Phoenix to waste their bombs

[native mantle]

so if i dunno should us juneau which to take for HMS fleet with belfast and fortune kai?

*use

[real notch]

Ye its the same for aurora

Though u dont rly need phoenix, just someone beefy like cleveland

3,9k hp and aa mode is enough to fuck up the foxes strat

[blazing scroll]

Doesn't eldridge have the possibility to fck things up too with OP rainbow? Be it less consistent

[modern tree]

Eldridge is probably not tanky enough to stand against foxes with 20% less dodge

[native mantle]

someone see my question?^^

[real notch]

Yee shes not

Eld belfast juneau type comps arent enough for twinfox aurora

But i fought a cleveland comp and had a lot of trouble

Tested like 8 times

Cleve survives everytime

@native mantle juneau is viable for HMS fleets you can keep her

[native mantle]

cause someone said earlier its dunno fit if she died to early/late

[real notch]

nah in 3x BB type comps she's the best

dw

[native mantle]

any other choices that i ahve for hood/dork?

[real notch]

you mean replacements for hood? none really

you sorta need her for HMS

[native mantle]

damn i dunno have dork and hood

[livid fractal]

I lost one game

rip my sandbagging days

[hot creek]

welcome to the club

I must say its nice knowing you don't have to tryhard anymore so you can just pvp whenever

you'll still get the top 10 reward anyways

[odd schooner]

Woke up in time

[real notch]

Xd

@grave gale i took out juneau for fortune

300 torp stat might do me better

[modern tree]

Weren't you the one arguing with me when I said Fortune over Juneau makes tons of sense?

[real notch]

me?

no i don't think so

[modern tree]

maybe it was Lunar

also long time ago

[alpine finch]

I missed like 9 exercises this rotation

Wonder if I can still get gensui on washy

[frail meteor]

how do i beat eldridge in pvp? shes my worst nightmare to fight currently cause of that autododge

[hot creek]

resets and 20% attacker bonus

just use any meta vanguard really

there isn't really a hard counter, well I guess you could use foxes

and also pray eldridge eats yo torps

anything that has high burst damage in the first 10 seconds or so

[frail meteor]

so ayanami with the heat seekers works?

and i just got terrible rng xD

im currently leveling the fox sisters for when nagato comes out tbh

[hot creek]

yeah honestly you can't go wrong with foxes since we know nagato will come eventually

and they're still viable even without nagato atm

[frail meteor]

they lose hard to wash and sd i noticed tho

i actually openly search for them in pvp since those 2 just tank then delete them

thanks for the info tho

[coral wren]

even with aurora?

[frail meteor]

ive also been wondering why no one is using javelin with an elizabeth fleet

shes really strong now with elizabeth after you restrofit her

[dark nova]

it's not Javelin thats the problem, HMS is just sorta outdated

[frail meteor]

really?

i usually lose to it even when i outpower it xD

[hot creek]

HMS still wins like 95% of the time even against wasd

[frail meteor]

was gonna say it still feels powerful af for pvp

i can see it being useless after nagato comes out tho tbh

nagato just buffs better ships

[hot creek]

yeah she buffs accuracy

and has a barrage

fucking disgusting

[frail meteor]

she also buffs fox sisters who buff themselves and launch faster

i can see it being a really disgusting 1shot strat

[hot creek]

QE retrofit when

[frail meteor]

QE?

[hot creek]

Queen Elizabeth

although she needs the art upgrade more than the stat upgrades

[frail meteor]

oh i dont think she should get one tbh

her abilities after a retrofit i cant see going well

shell either become so stupid op that shell becomes a second nagato or shell get nerfed

[hot creek]

nothing wrong with having an HMS Nagato. Although I might be biased here

[frail meteor]

what does hms stand for btw?

im new to terminology

[hot creek]

Her Majesty's Snipers

just kidding, it's Her Majesty's Ship

[frail meteor]

oh xd

i just honestly dont want anymore 100% dodge ships

anything that can just win because you got the better dice roll rather than actual strategy and team building shouldnt ever exist

looking at you enterprise

[dark nova]

they give you unlimited resets anyway

[frail meteor]

so many battles become a who misses lucky e first >~>

anyway i gotta go to work now nice talking to you guys

[dark nova]

[hot creek]

o7

[native mantle]

any good CV/CVL besides enty/akaga?

[coral wren]

How much does this fleet make sense? I have no synergy going on

@native mantle Shoukaku/Zuikaku right now (to an extent imo but not as good as akaga meta wise) and Lusty if you want to pair her with Eldridge for maximum cheese

[native mantle]

what is that in the top at main fleet?

@coral wren

[real notch]

north carolina

actually the fleet looks fine

just don't put enterprise in the middle

otherwise it looks pretty solid actually

[blazing scroll]

Just hood in the middle

[real notch]

solid but second rate to wasd

[coral wren]

i think she also have some sort of def skill to protect sd

While in same fleet with South Dakota, increases own FP by 5% (20%) and reduces damage received on South Dakota by 4% (10%)

Ah I’ve seen that advice elsewhere, it’s always Hood as the flagship and Enty at top/bot in other people’s fleets. I know setting Hood as the flagship is beneficial but wouldn’t it work equally as well for Enty because her airstrikes would be boosted even more?

I’m actually surprised how well this fleet works considering how it’s nothing like WashDak/HMS/Eldridge evasion metas yet I end up winning 98-99% of engagements

[bitter escarp]

20% boost too stronk

[coral wren]

I’ll try putting Hood as the flagship, question is should Enty be on the top or bottom

[vague token]

i use E bottom, because the bottom side is more easily hit by cuda and stuff

cause of the increased space

(and torps)

which means you dodge more

torps and stuff disappear off the top side of the screen really easily

imo

[coral wren]

Ah

And NC on top for the extra AA coverage then since planes come from top/dead center usually?

Come to think of it, Hood’s barrage would be more effective if she were in the middle

[vague token]

honestly NC doesnt matter too much on location

she's a stat stick that does work by existing

[coral wren]

I see, thanks for the two cents

[vague token]

man i need aurora, i think if i do aurora/black heart/(eldridge or belfast) i can just outshoot vanguards

[coral wren]

Eldridge meta

[vague token]

oh, i just mean like ripping through light armor boats with gunfire xD

aurora gets +20% vs destroyers, black heart has +15% on all ignoring armor, belfast has HE boost

just shoot em

xD

[coral wren]

It’s funny, I remember next to one using her in their pvp fleets (avrora server) and all of a sudden she’s in almost everyone’s defensive... I guess it just took a while for people to raise her to max

[vague token]

ive used about 80 cubes, not rushing

gold is more limiting factor atm

xD

[coral wren]

Better to just go for her during dailies, after all she’s in the build pool forever lol

Unless you want to build her quick

[vague token]

gotta start leveling somewhere

xD

i did get Fubuki though, maybe i can meme with her and ayanami

[coral wren]

Maximum Nuclear Torpedo

[vague token]

oof

i had saved up about 200 since i didnt do much nep build

[odd schooner]

@livid fractal how did you lost 1 game. Attacking half asleep?

[coral wren]

first game i lost this season

[odd schooner]

[vague token]

ive fat fingered the pause button a few times

[abstract cypress]

conclusion, aurora is bad

[odd schooner]

4th +0

[wise summit]

still training my baby aurora for akaga duty

[topaz beacon]

aurora is great... if wasd doesn't exist

[wise summit]

I don't know about you but my akagae beats wasd every time excepting when their helena and E proc together AND my E doesn't which is fairly rare

and that's without aurora so I think the matchup will improve with

non-belfast frontlines already kind of just go by the first fox launch, keen to see if aurora makes belfast frontlines go the same way

[odd schooner]

You tried killing off max oathed wasd hood fortune setups?

[slow totem]

Gurren, what’s with your obsession with Oaths?

Oathed =//= Good, vice versa.

Cases where I had more trouble with non-oathed fleets vs full oathed aren’t that rare for me to believe Oaths make a tangible power difference.

[odd schooner]

Min maxing ofc

[slow totem]

I don’t get it, fam.

[odd schooner]

To see full potential

[slow totem]

It does set a gap to differentiate between those who play a lot and those who don’t, I guess, true.

So oathed fleets would mean said player has invested a lot into the game.

And thus more likely to have good enhanced gears than not

[odd schooner]

More like taking more effort to your girl

[slow totem]

Now it makes sense, it’s not about the oath itself, but the implication of having an oathed fleet.

Those who have multiple oaths are more likely serious players with investments, those who don’t well, not so likely.

WOKE af Boiiiiii

[odd schooner]

It's really rare to see a max equipped non oathed ships that's why

[slow totem]

Basically what I said.

#WOKE

[odd schooner]

why are we even making too much effort on pvp again

[slow totem]

PURINS

[pastel forge]

lets be real, the real effort is trying to actually use all pvp attempts without missing (I still havent done it)

[slow totem]

3/4 AM staying up,

[stable panther]

I guess that's a benefit for living in the other side of the planet from the original server location

[slow totem]

[hushed kayak]

Alright, gonna do warspite, hood, qe main

who should be the vanguard?

[slow totem]

Fortune Retro, Belfast/Eldridge, Juneau

[hushed kayak]

why fortune retro may i ask?

[slow totem]

Buffing Circlejerk.

QE buffs her, Fortune buffs the main fleet.

[hushed kayak]

also juneau cause of her skill?

[slow totem]

Yessss, cancer.

[hushed kayak]

well im getting beaver badge

[slow totem]

CANCER^2

[pastel forge]

there's also leander for more offensive option

[slow totem]

Also Aurora since she’s also HMS.

[hushed kayak]

yea i was thinking aurora, belfast, and another

maybe javelin kai lol

[slow totem]

Juneau for maximum cancer

[hushed kayak]

but eva memes

[slow totem]

EVApe, you mean?

[hushed kayak]

also i need to get aurora first

[slow totem]

🚬

[hushed kayak]

lol qe with erebus and terror

[slow totem]

MAXIMUM MEME

[hushed kayak]

qe, erebus, terror, juneau, javelin kai, fortune kai?

[dark nova]

infinite darkness just isn't strong enough unfortunately

[hushed kayak]

but double infinite darkness

but for real, which hms vanguard should i use to just do lots of dmg to people

[slow totem]

[hushed kayak]

i mean i could use ayanami

[slow totem]

Aurora, Belfast, Leander

[hushed kayak]

leander for the bonus smokescreen?

[slow totem]

For maximum HMS offensive

[finite valve]

jintsuu aurora and ayaya is a better front then belfap and leander can ever be

[hushed kayak]

but with QE

[slow totem]

He wants HMS, Phantom

[hushed kayak]

QE, Warspite, Hood backline

[slow totem]

Themed fleet, not Hurr Durr Maximum Metaslave fleet

[hushed kayak]

i mean i could just metaslave

my aya is level 100 oath retro

[slow totem]

Winning with metaslave fleet: Duh. Meh,

Winning with Themed fleet: Mad Respecc

[hushed kayak]

i also have akaga over level 90 each, level 99 enterprise

wash and sd are level 90 cause no gold bulins left

[finite valve]

the problem with hms front is that there are far in between

most good front are non hms one

[hushed kayak]

i mean tbh i dont think i need an hms front

i could just run akaga and hood lol

[finite valve]

then use jintsuu aurora and ayaya

you can just use hms back line

but front hms are not really good enough to deal damage

[slow totem]

RIP Themed fleet dream

[hushed kayak]

wait is jintsuu out in en?

[slow totem]

Go back to metaslaving we go...

[finite valve]

in around 2h

[hushed kayak]

i mean i can do themed fleet still cause belfast, leander, eidenburgh

[slow totem]

Well, you will win if you metaslave

Like duh

Obvious af

But winning with themed fleet

[finite valve]

you are playing a stall comp vs a nuke comp

[slow totem]

[hushed kayak]

well i will win if my gear is good too

[finite valve]

aurora jintsuu and ayaya going to nuke your front to hell and back

[hushed kayak]

also in order to use jintsuu i actually need to get to ch 10 and then farm that ch

[slow totem]

There’s nothing to discuss or flex about metaslave fleet

You will win, if you lose with that, then something is wrong

[finite valve]

well i can assue you 100% you going to see full jintsuu aurora and ayaya in top 1k

[hushed kayak]

tbh i still need to get aurora

[slow totem]

Beat them metaslaved with themed fleet

[hushed kayak]

if nagato was in the game id be using her with akaga

[slow totem]

Ultimate satisfaction

[finite valve]

you can still win against them with good RNG

[slow totem]

Winning with mirror matching metaslaving? “Eh, ok. What else is now?”

Yessssss

[hushed kayak]

i mean USS fleet could work lol

[finite valve]

just that you might reset a bit more

[slow totem]

[hushed kayak]

so once nagato is out im gonna be using the hai sisters

[slow totem]

I’ll take that risk, pvp gets stale over time if I use meta fleets 24/7

FeelsBadMan

[hushed kayak]

i mean uss backline, wash/sd/enterprise

[slow totem]

And full USS frontline too?

🇺🇸

[dark nova]

whole point of meta fleets is to save time on pvp by winning more easily

[hushed kayak]

i mean cleve/helena/wichita

[dark nova]

there isn't much else to do with exercises aside from getting your merits

[hushed kayak]

the trinity

[slow totem]

Yea, but I’m level 89 now. Metaslaving becomes boring to me. 💤

[finite valve]

or ppl can just use meme def fleet

[slow totem]

Like, you will win, what else is new? It is a metaslave fleet.

[finite valve]

there is 0 good thing in trying to piss ppl of using meta def fleet

not like you going to prevent ppl from getting top 10 lol

[slow totem]

My defense fleet atm is Santa fleet

🎄

[finite valve]

i just stuff 2 0lb ship in def and call it a day

[hushed kayak]

i should stop doing the event for now and go work on the story

[slow totem]

Hah! Sometimes I stuff them full of level 100 ships with no gear

[hushed kayak]

xD

[slow totem]

To give lower levels commanders ez xp and levels

[hushed kayak]

im tempted to just use enterprise and ayanami or something

[finite valve]

too generous for my taste

[slow totem]

It’s Christmas, one good deed every day, even if it’s small.

💰

[finite valve]

might do it on xmas

[hushed kayak]

but for real, who are super good hms ships for vanguard

[slow totem]

Aurora, Belfast, Leander, HMS-wise

[dark nova]

aurora, belfast, fortune kai, leander

[hushed kayak]

well i just need aurora

[slow totem]

They all combo with one another and the main fleet

[hushed kayak]

i have leander kai

[slow totem]

Oh yeah, Fortune Retro too

[finite valve]

best hms front is just fortune kai belfap and aurora

[hushed kayak]

yea fortune retro protects the back a bit

[slow totem]

Can replace FortKai with LeanderXD if you feel more confident

[dark nova]

USS Juneau is always a great HMS ship too

[hushed kayak]

i mean leander is leveled and i dont have fortune rn

[slow totem]

[finite valve]

pretty sure juneau going to hit the bench tomorrow

jintsuu open too much comp to use with her

[dark nova]

jintsuu isn't gonna be super common

[hushed kayak]

now if only i could get aurora as a drop :c

i might need to level fortune when i get her again

[finite valve]

pretty sure she will be in around 2 weeks to 1 month time

[livid fractal]

@odd schooner I lost enty vs enty, enemy enty had like 100 HP left while I have full, his enty proc lucky e while mine didn't, so I thought I might survive but I underestimated it.

[lone pendant]

rip

[finite valve]

just another normal day in RNG town

[dark nova]

[lone pendant]

cant wait for big seven proc

[finite valve]

meh you use big 7 for the CV buff not the proc

who give a shit about that loli proc

all she good for is the CV buff

lol

[hushed kayak]

but that proc is strong

[slow totem]

Which Big 7 are we talkin’ bout here?

[lone pendant]

nagato

[slow totem]

Be more specific maaaan

[lone pendant]

lol

[slow totem]

🤣

[finite valve]

you should have know since i specifically said CV buff

and we only have 1 big 7 with a CV buff

[odd schooner]

@livid fractal you can still save the match by closing the app

[finite valve]

pretty sure if he don't got the time to click pause he sure as hell don't got enough time to alt + f4 or even click the close button

if he was on emulator that is

[slow totem]

I was jestering around

[finite valve]

[slow totem]

[finite valve]

well anyway tomorrow remember to stay away from #gameplay-help

cus 10-4 question on how to create a fleet to farm it

LMFAO

i can see it now

[slow totem]

Ez Peezy Lemon Squeezy

3 SR CA, 3 SR BB, 81 Oil per run

Eeeeeez

[finite valve]

but meh my oil

me want low oil farm fleet

[slow totem]

🛢 📉 👈

[finite valve]

but yeh #gameplay-help going to have a field day answering question about how to create a fleet to farm w10

glad i am not one of them

zzz

[odd schooner]

The pause isn't clickable if your ship sank

The only way to save it is by closing app

[finite valve]

even with a defeat screen?

i thought those only work if you don't see the defeat screen yet

[pastel forge]

if your ship already sank, cant save it even with app close tbh

[odd schooner]

Close it before it loads

[finite valve]

if you already saw that screen then it is useless

[odd schooner]

There's enough time to close it

[grave gale]

depends on your connection speed

[pastel forge]

tried multiple time, the moment ship sank. always count as defeat for me

o yea maybe connection thing

[odd schooner]

[grave gale]

you're better off turning on airplane mode

to stop your connection entirely

[finite valve]

tbh just always either fast finger or hover your mouse over the pause button tbh

[odd schooner]

You can't pause enty bombs

[finite valve]

there is 0 reason why you should not have your mosue / finger near the pause button in pvp

[odd schooner]

It will automatically delete your ship

[finite valve]

you can see her proc

if you see her proc and you don't hit that shit

[grave gale]

If you see a lucky e proc and your vanguard is dead. You might as well immediately reset

[odd schooner]

From his description, he tried to tank the bombs

[finite valve]

unless the enemies enty use fast launch plane

[grave gale]

because there's a good chance your entire back will be deleted

[pastel forge]

ye, unless you have wasd that hasnt proc yet

[finite valve]

most of the time my enty can just 100 to 0 a max hp enty if mine proc and their don't

so yes if their proc and you don't put that reset button

no reason to temp fate lol

[slow totem]

Living life dangerously

[finite valve]

i might try to do that on last day of season

not if you haven't got gensu for season yet

[slow totem]

Winning that would be a mad respecc big dicc moment

[odd schooner]

Well i didn't know your matches load that fast

[slow totem]

Fast AF internet boiiiii

[finite valve]

i think that is more of a self roast then anything gurren

[slow totem]

Auto-burn

[odd schooner]

Does Famine push to top 20

Uhh

Nah, it works in our country

[slow totem]

Both glorious and sad

👌

[topaz beacon]

might as well not use enty so u get no enty standoffs

[slow totem]

WOKE

[pastel forge]

can't use enty if you don't have enty.....

woops

[jolly sandal]

[pastel forge]

[slow totem]

[finite valve]

dk if i should laugh or cry

but i go with laugh

lol

[odd schooner]

https://imgur.com/a/6JI204c the gif speed is fast but eh

[jolly sandal]

Top tier pvp mechanics

[finite valve]

if you use a phone then closing app might be faster due to the button

[odd schooner]

[finite valve]

if you use an emulator then either fast mouse click or rip really

[odd schooner]

Maybe i should do desktop too

[finite valve]

PC just hover the mouse over the pause button lol

[topaz beacon]

the problem is if i lose ill be too stunned to react that fast

[finite valve]

[lone pendant]

why not leave?

hmm

[odd schooner]

You can't click pause button after the enemy or your fleet sinks

[coral wren]

news update, putting hood as my flagship and enty at the bottom has raised my win rate to 200 percent

[odd schooner]

How about chances of getting z46

[coral wren]

[odd schooner]

Hope you get her soon

[finite valve]

the amount of roast is unreal lel

[abstract cypress]

i got em enuff for mlb

still no freakin z25

[pastel forge]

z46 is a myth

[abstract cypress]

bullshit

[grave gale]

I'm missing z25 too.

[abstract cypress]

its a freakin UR

[real notch]

alright boiz

i've found some success with fox + aurora

the vanguard lineup is belfast - aurora - eldridge

in that order

so far was able to beat 13.4k wasd hood, 13k HMS and other fox comps pretty consistently

need some more testing but the vanguard choice is definitely better than anything with juneau or fortune

[livid fractal]

Having Eldridge in any vanguard is always good xd

Meta will change again once jintsuu comes

[azure aurora]

Better than juneau+aurora+belfast ?

[abstract cypress]

her stat is mediocre expt the hp is kinda low which fixed with her retro defense skill

her main selling would be her strong buff, overall shes just a good ship

[blazing scroll]

Why use juneau + aurora?

[odd schooner]

Keep aurora alive

She's fragile

But you could get away by Eldridge

[blazing scroll]

I would go for something extremely offensive with aurora, but maybe that's just me

[odd schooner]

You're not alone

But ye

No sendai yet

[blazing scroll]

No reason to play to long game when you can obliterate the opposing team

[azure aurora]

foxes user quote

[blazing scroll]

Sadly I don't have aurora yet

[hot creek]

are any of you guys planning to farm for Jintsuu? lol

[coral wren]

No 😃 to hell with jap setup

[azure aurora]

No, i just 3 star world 10 and waiting for danger mode implemented

And another crane T5 box from 10-3

[abstract cypress]

das gae

farm like a real man

[pastel forge]

definitely gonna farm jintsuu, not like there's a better thing to do ingame anyway

[coral wren]

grinding out d1 😄

[azure aurora]

Or farming gold 7-2

[stable panther]

Oh, right. There's more stage beyond world 8

[native mantle]

any good HMS backliner if i dunno have hood/dork?

[dark nova]

Lusty is an okay filler if you have QE and Warspite

And as always, Enterprise

[native mantle]

i have QE but no warspite

but wouldn't enty be missplaced in a QE HMS fleet?

[dark nova]

It's Enterprise

She literally carries teams

Not much point in going HMS if you only have QE though

[native mantle]

i have everything for HMS besides hood/dork

[dark nova]

Duke isn't even out on EN yet

[native mantle]

so QE+enty+LUsty+belfast+fortune+juneau?

[dark nova]

I feel like you'd be better off running a different battleship at that point

But it should work

[coral wren]

Y, it's kinda pointless if the only bb you have for hms is qe

[native mantle]

so without hood its more pointless to run HMS?

[dark nova]

You could run Tirpitz

Since you have carriers

[native mantle]

let me take a SS from my ships

[dark nova]

Fortune needs retrofit to be useful

[native mantle]

aye I'm working on it

any usefull comps with that dock?

[dark nova]

Mmm, its less about team comp if your ships aren't leveled

I'd still run Enty Lusty Tirpitz

For backline

If youre just looking to focus on making a full team

[native mantle]

and for frontline?

[dark nova]

Juneau Belfast and either Fortune Kai or Helena

[native mantle]

and ofc i need to level them then^^

what would be the differences from helena vs fortune kai?

[dark nova]

Helena synergises with Enterprise if you can time her skill with Enty's airstrikes

Fortune is mainly a dodge tank and helps backline survivability with her skill

[native mantle]

and she is later used in HMS while helena isn't?

[dark nova]

Yeah, though Helena is used in a lot of pve boss fleets too so she's quite useful regardless

[native mantle]

then i think i will just use helena until i got fortune to kai

[dark nova]

I'm kinda surprised by how few purple bulins you have

[native mantle]

i did some misstakes at the beginning of the game and rentired them

[dark nova]

Ah I see

[coral wren]

Lol, i did something similar, just used a few of them in a simple enhancement

Good thing you can get them by just farming pvp and completing weeklies+exchange shop

The more you play this game the more purples you will be having. The only rare resource rn is mk2 bulin i think

[native mantle]

aye i need a 2nd for my 6star tirpitz

can't level her higher then 90 cause only 5 stars

[dark nova]

Battleships are

[native mantle]

BB's are what?^^

@dark nova

[dark nova]

Strong like unicorn

[native mantle]

ah k. i doing 6-4 atm for 3 stars so that i will get there my 2nd SSR bullin for 6 star tirpitz

[dark nova]

One step at a time and you'll reach your goals

[native mantle]

ye. i need so or so to proceed the main quest. i stucked at 6-1 before i leveled my phoenix/tirpitz

*aye

[native mantle]

@dark nova btw there are any BBV/BM that works well withg that enty, tirpitz setup instead of lusty?

[dark nova]

You don't run another BB/BC with Tirpitz since it nullifies her firepower skill

current meta backline is Washington + South Dakota + Enty/Hood

[crimson widget]

"Aviation Battleship does not count and the skill still activates when sortied with aviation battleships."

[dark nova]

That involves running an aviation battleship though

[crimson widget]

Yama is decent at best?

I never tried them so

[native mantle]

IIRC then monitors and that BBV are dunno count cause it said especialy "BB and BC"

so only ise and hyuuga would be worth to ahve with tirpitz?

and erebus/terror?

[worthy osprey]

monitors would melt quite fast

[dark nova]

monitors are fragile as heck

they wouldn't last to see a second barrage

[native mantle]

was just wondering if there are any other options with enty+tirpitz besides lusty

[worthy osprey]

graf maybe

[native mantle]

damn i dunno ahve zeppelin

its jsut a shame i missed the MAF event

[crimson widget]

Ye I've been using zeppy/tirp/Big E, it kinda work I'm just missing levels

The downside with Zep is her dmg its MEH(even worse for me she's only lvl80)

[dry socket]

zepp clears skies efficiently

[coral wren]

luftwaffe masterrace

[dry socket]

more efficiently than current near-meta cvs, ex. lusty (with eldridge in the current meta) and a slight bit better than ent with the right aircraft, as well as other more specialised cvs like unicorn

damage to the frontline is harshly lowered, and using zepp in pvp is

...more or less not suggested, having a massive amount of counters due to merely her low reload

[glacial spire]

Can someone explain explain to me why south dakota is meta? I never really felt her impact.

Her skill aegis always feel out of sync

[dark nova]

mainly cause she has high stats, and the invincibility frames from being paired with washington can let her soak up a lot of damage that could otherwise go to your other ships

[modern tree]

Aegis is nothing, Sodako is meta because her AA is stupid high, she has resonable FP and she will randomly just kill ships, sometimes multiple

She consistently outdamages enterprise

synergy with Wash is a bonus

[dry socket]

Sodako consistently out-damaging Enterprise could be considered normal for an equally specialised BB

[modern tree]

Not every BB has 30% chance to just vaporise things

[dry socket]

One accurate shot>multiple torpedoes from a golden barracuda

Ent is better at survivability when it comes to rng numbers as well

[modern tree]

double damage applies to the whole volley so instead of hitting like 1-2k shells you start hitting like 3-4k and that really, really makes a huge impact, wins fights on its own

And Sodak has not only 5 seconds of invulnerablity that buffs Wash on top of it, she also starts taking 30% less damage after (transfered to Wash) that and in my experience running Eldridge/Juneau, after sodak gets low enough to proc the Iron Bottom for Wash or loses her invuln, my Juneau finally sinks healing both of them for a chunk

wasd is really dumb and feel sort of unfair, I dont really have a way to test it, but Focused Assult shots seem to have higher velocity too since they always magically hit the front despite the fact that I use 410s

[elder crane]

SoDak is great since her base is already good and her skills/synergies just make her better.

Aegis is a "sometimes nice" bonus for now, but becomes amazing in the NAKaga meta since high-level NAKaga's second strike runs face-first into it (AKaga already almost runs into it, and Nagato further buffs reload, and with level uncap, they get more reload). With invulnerability from Wash, it means NAKaga does less than half-damage on second strike, giving you a round to return fire (At 2 to 2 rounds of Backline fire, NAKaga teams are worse, they rely on winning at 2:1 rounds from the accelerated launch).
NAKaga teams have trouble trying to get around this by delaying the strike, since they need to maintain parity in reload to win the mirror matchup.

The invulnerability from Wash will often allow you to get an extra round of fire off of her, which is clearly amazing. Plus, she buffs Wash at low HP.

Focused Assault is unreliable, but can turn matches around on a dime if it hits, since it often just deletes ships. Good for offense in winning otherwise unwinnable situations (since we can reset), great on defense to randomly surprise people/stall matches.

[native mantle]

so to buy sodako even without washington is good?

[elder crane]

No, there's better options then, usually

Aegis is correction: can be a negative if Wash isn't around, and her invul is critical overall

She's still good, just not your best option anymore, in most cases

Yeah, you're right, it's a unique skill anyways and so will always have some applications I guess

[modern tree]

Hiryuu and Soryuu are getting retrofits which has funny implications for pvp. While EN wont see them for a while just like Nagato, it is something to talk about I guess

dunno, hard to tell from art they posted on twitter, and its also in chinesee

but its gonna be a stat and efficency boost on top of their sister ship damage boost, and their individual skills that are pretty strong on their own

[coral wren]

How much oil [ whole fleet ] should i use on C2?

I need to reach D4 with only 3500 oil.

[native mantle]

i would ask that in #gameplay-help not pvp^^

@coral wren

[coral wren]

Uhh they told me to ask on pvp

Well then

[native mantle]

but C and D are event maps so it should be pve^^

[coral wren]

Uhh they told me to ask on pvp
lol wat

[native mantle]

eventualy the ppl that told that are degenerate?^^

*d

[coral wren]

kek

[modern tree]

Only 10 people have gensui on Sandy again

What a bizarre place

[hot creek]

oh. is it that time of season again? i missed so many pvps

[vague token]

so, urakaze thoughts?

as like an alternative or extra juneau

pity it isnt 100% activation

also wondering if it activates when she herself sinks

[edgy kiln]

14min till gensui

[hybrid tendon]

Done with the rush

[edgy kiln]

god damn i stuck with a 13k fleet

takes too much time dealing with it

[dark nova]

All you need is

[edgy kiln]

had bad luck with my own

[vague token]

all you need is ayanami to nuke the vanguard

before 20

xD

[elder crane]

I stopped paying attention momentarily this morning, and lost two (!) rounds
Otherwise, I might've made it last reset, now I can't even make it this reset

[edgy kiln]

done

barely made it

lost 2 this season

[vague token]

[elder crane]

Huh, your server has sandbagged less than avrora has it seems

[edgy kiln]

Lex

of course no server can compare with avrora

[elder crane]

2217 with 2 more left for me, but no way to top 10 even though I got all sub 1-min battles for the first three after reset

And it was going so well, before I forgot Eldridge's skill doesn't protect from ramming
Oh well, guess I'll get it next few days instead

[edgy kiln]

good luck

im off to world of warships now

[azure aurora]

Done

[frail meteor]

is solo eldridge frontline actually a good defense? ive seen a lot of people doing this

[slow totem]

No? My defense is Santaprise + Santadridge

[frail meteor]

thats too strong

[slow totem]

Stronger than WASDEnty yes

[frail meteor]

wow i just got probably the worst luck possible with a pvp match

everything that could hit hit and crit

[slow totem]

[dark nova]

solo anything isn't much of a defense unless the player fighting it is extremely outleveled

[frail meteor]

ive had more trouble against solo laffey than a group with laffey

i think because she moved at top speed rather than a nerfed speed

so she just stalled forever by dodging everything

[slow totem]

Wut the...

NEW META

[dark nova]

I don't think I've ever had that issue

[frail meteor]

i think for me it was bad rng

[slow totem]

Imma try Fletcher Trio + Beaver Nao

[dark nova]

top speed only does so much in the hands of AI

[frail meteor]

it doesnt happen now that i have heat seeking missiles

i can see solo eldridge being good before heat seekers came out because she could constantly proc rainbow

but with heat seekers she just kinda would get deleted

[slow totem]

Lilya, please don’t tell me that you unironically think that solo Vanguard + Backline defense fleets are actually tryhard defense fleets.

[vague token]

solo eldridge is just gonna get nuked by belfast/X/X

she's slow so she eats all the shots

so yeah, dont solo

is team game

/says that but is trying out Black Heart/Ayanami/X, which is about as selfish as it gets lol

if only MGM+1 or lacy dance was an All Out Assault T_T

[ionic magnet]

hi ive seen so many meme defense fleets. is there a particular reason for that?

[vague token]

because in the end, it doesnt stop people from winning

just forces them to waste time

if they have to reset

so why care basically

[ionic magnet]

er it stops plenty of peeps from defeating you

[stable panther]

And then there's the assholes who put top geared shit while they're ranked 3k

[ionic magnet]

does it not matter

[stable panther]

It matters, for the top 1k

For the casual, which is most of the players, it's pretty meaningless

[vague token]

like, it doesnt stop them from defeating you, it forces them to hit pause

then exit

then rematch

for better rng

no one should ever lose in the top set

because there are no mirror matches

20% and positional differences

so you CAN just not care about defense

not a big deal

[stable panther]

It harms the casual merit income. It only bother the srus buziness players

[vague token]

yeah, so if you use a meme fleet you can help other casuals get their merits easier

and then they use a meme fleet and you get merits

so woo

[stable panther]

Also makes other have a smile on their face seeing your name and your meme fleet

[vague token]

just dont do the ark royal + destroyers, dont be that person

;)

[ionic magnet]

i see

[stable panther]

Yeah, it's... It's a goddamn common cliche

[still kestrel]

I've seen ark royal + vert + dds

[vague token]

yeah

ive seen team Nep

you get w/e

[stable panther]

So, the important point is, powaful defense fleet would cockblock the casuals and newb source of merit, while only wasting the seriuz buzinezs top ranker time

I get it, if you are in top 1k you want to make others fight for your spot

But could you please don't do that when you are a fricking rank 2k or more?

[slow totem]

@ionic magnet

[ionic magnet]

yea i get your point but from what i see, it still matters for top rankers even if its just a tiny bit. cos sometimes a few points is all you need to get to the next rank

[slow totem]

I get Gensui every season with meme defense

So you tell me

[ionic magnet]

thats like not relevant at all

[slow totem]

Ok

[grave gale]

world 10 is as painful as I expected it to be. Fox Mines 2.0 is gonna be rough.

Dedicating all my oil to Jintsuu aside from the daily raid

[real notch]

world 10 is indeed difficult

i've almost given up on saving oil

i forgot to rush for gensui rank 1 earlier today

oh well

i'll do it in about 1:10 hours

and try to get rank 1

[odd schooner]

Pvp defense on gensui day means you're stalling someone who's aiming at you

you're giving others a chance while the player atking you is stuck for a minute or two

[real notch]

LOOL

wait do we know if we are also in the same lobby as the people we have in our lobby?

[slow totem]

What’s stopping them from picking someone else tho?

[odd schooner]

+9

[slow totem]

Refresh?

+10

[odd schooner]

Refresh will sometimes betray you on top 100

[slow totem]

[real notch]

also building full offense with fox + aurora won't work

[odd schooner]

Like you're rank 30+

You Refresh

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[real notch]

you can maybe beat shitty wasd e fleets but once they have cleveland, fortune, hood, or anyone with AA

ur fucked

also wiping their vanguard fast is completely pointless if your vanguard is just going to run into 3x 200% efficiency twin 127mms

that will wipe your vanguard in 2 seconds

[odd schooner]

I think i can put an Eldridge def vanguard now

Triple boiler memes

[real notch]

you need to wipe their vanguard before 4:24, and either survive until 2nd torp round and give your foxes free touchdown

because without a vanguard a wasd fleet will shit on your foxes

[odd schooner]

Bb shells

Focused assault ones

[real notch]

ye

good news is eldridge has 314 torp stat

so with aurora, it's much easier (at least with 20% attack) to wipe enemy vanguard before 4:24

ALSO, with aurora, juneau dies insanely fast against twinfox aurora fleets now

like guaranteed death by first airstrike

[odd schooner]

One time this happened

[real notch]

before planes even touchdown on enemy

i think because of that i'd drop juneau tierlist from 0 to 1

as in, she's still decent in wasd and HMS fleets VS wasd and HMS

but against foxes she just gets deleted

ye gurren that's why eldridge is good

because she procs between 4:40 and 4:30

which is just around the time after 4:46 (first airstrike) and 4:35 (2nd torp) and 4:24 (2nd airstrike)

she'll cloak your vanguard while they magtorp the shit out of backline

[odd schooner]

I guess she's safe till nagato arrives

[glacial spire]

Whats up with people in rank 100 having meme fleets lately? Is there some strategy that is going on?

[idle python]

What's wrong with people giving you free wins

[glacial spire]

Cant complain I guess. I thought theres some strategy going on

[stable panther]

they aim to etch their name in your minds as their meme fleet is etched into your mind

[slow totem]

My Santa Fleet shall be etched into your minds, forever.

Also, done with Gensui for the season, now I’m off to chill torture myself at W10.

[vague token]

ow, getting dunked by this akaga/wash fleet 13.1k

guess ill just dodge that person

dont feel like rigging rng

[odd schooner]

@glacial spire some ppl after getting gensui rank changes their def to meme for other ppl to have a better chance in getting gensui

[livid fractal]

I barely made it to AotF

[hot creek]

probably won't make it this season, i missed way too many

[pastel forge]

yea me too, first half of the season went really well then boom lol

[glossy jay]

still no belfap gun or belfap

[hot creek]

daily 6-2 hard mode m8

they'll rack up

and if we're going by personal anecdotal evidence. hard mode has higher drop rates.

[proven night]

has anyone used shokaku/zuikaku in high lvl pvp before? xD

[modern tree]

They are alright and work with helena to steal some wins. SKK buff is really good too, but foxes are faster and you can't buff sunk ships so warying degrees of mileage

[odd schooner]

I think i missed 1 battle

@livid fractal how much battles did you missed and what's your current rank points?

[glacial spire]

Dang. I didnt know they were going to do a meme fleet. I was hard stuck rank 200~ then got lucky and manages to get rank 100. I decided then its impossible for me to get rank 50 with people running 11k/11k.

[livid fractal]

@odd schooner I think I'm at rank 11

I lost one game, which is -10