#pvp

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elder crane
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Different for each rank, check the wiki

zenith tundra
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ok didn't know u could check

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the ranks on the wiki are translated? i cant seem to find major

odd schooner
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15 atm

zenith tundra
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i saw commander which is the same in both but the others don't seem to match

zenith tundra
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if u want to maximize score do u want to be top 1k or not (once u reach 1050 score)?

ionic hill
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how far ahead must your opponent be in rank to get extra points?

odd schooner
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The idea is to have +35 gap

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+35 on rank points not on rank standing

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Each +35 is +1

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It's kinda hard to check when we're on early/mid season since we can't stalk opponent's rank points cause they will hardly appear in top 100

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Well, what i do is wait for an hour, see if it goes over 1k then atk (on commodore below rank)

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On seaman it's 4k

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Or more

ionic hill
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so much little details

abstract cypress
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better spent all tries asap then go back to rl emilesip

zenith tundra
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al pvp>rl any day

untold folio
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searchal exercise

hidden wyvernBOT
odd schooner
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So Wiki does tell you about the +35

zenith tundra
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"While the exact calculations for Rank Score gain are unknown, a 30-35 Rank Score difference is estimated to have a difference of 1 on the Rank Score, with the base Rank Score gain dependent on rank as shown above."
It actually does

odd schooner
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Oh my bad

hot creek
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always assume 35 to be safe. I've attack someone with 34 points above me and I didn't get any bonus.

hybrid obsidian
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hmm, it s not an assumption business tho, since if you know precisely how much you are behind, that imply the ranking score has reach the pt where 35 pts are needed to acquire a pt

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at the beginning of the season, the gap is as small as 28 or lower

analog crypt
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can I have some help setting up a PVP fleet later when avrora is back online?

slow totem
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Of course!

trail hollow
analog crypt
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First off..
I dont have hood

slow totem
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Can’t. Servers’ down

analog crypt
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Cant

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Avrora is under maintainance

slow totem
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Everyone is under maintenance

trail hollow
hollow dawn
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I just want to use this chance to say that this chat is incredibly chill and I like you guys GWnanamiSachiHeart

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I thought it would like a hellhole of people arguing over AA or smth smugBucky

slow totem
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What’s the best AA for PvP?

rancid totem
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Does aa even matter?

analog crypt
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My current fleet got reckt by a single hood the other day

rancid totem
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I mean I don’t see any planes going down

slow totem
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Smh, I unleashed hell.

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But my NoCal WASD - Cleveland Sandy Juneau meme fleet actually popped all of Akaga’s planes one time.

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Their AA skills popped at the same time.

rancid totem
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Ok maybe there’s a use for it

slow totem
rancid totem
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I just bully lower level players most of the time

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Or try to kill the enemy carrier before they can launch

slow totem
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I like merits, so I aim for Gensui, for 4 extra purins pee month.

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At higher levels, AkaGas launch at the 10 second mark, can’t do that since we don’t have Jean Bart yet.

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I can do that to Enterprises with HMS snipers, kill her at the 15 second mark.

hollow dawn
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Smh, I unleashed hell. nah, it was me. never compliment people, I learned my lesson entylul

slow totem
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Hahahahahaha!

analog crypt
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so I do have enty nd fox CVs, but my highest tierlist BB is hyuuga...

slow totem
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Heh, we complimented you too, it’s only fair.

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Yeah, better than hyuuga. For PvP.

analog crypt
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.... 0

slow totem
fallow monolith
slow totem
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Priorities

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Big smort

analog crypt
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but I cant get said decent selection because I dont get the right BBs...

slow totem
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Big thonk

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You can’t or you haven’t?

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There’s a difference

fallow monolith
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What should I pull for this next event?

slow totem
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Everyone started somewhere

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Graf Zeppelin and Z25, the rest are droppable

still kestrel
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specifically for pvp it doesn't matter since none of the event ships are worth using

analog crypt
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for me heavy construction rarely drop BBs

slow totem
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PvP’s a lot more strict with comps since you are facing other people.

analog crypt
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and if one does drop its one of the commons

slow totem
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GWqlabsFeelsBadEh persevere

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Just use foxes and enty for now

analog crypt
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the thing is... I need to do pvps to gain the stuffso I can get at least a decent BB in SD

fallow monolith
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Z46 is droppable? smugBucky

still kestrel
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you can just lose your way to SD if you have no other choice, it just takes longer

analog crypt
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which ships are reccomended for vanguard?

sage thistle
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belfap, helena ,juneau

fallow monolith
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Graf's skills thinkpitz

slow totem
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Eldridge, Juneau, Belfast, Helena, Fortune Retro

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Eldridge is not a maybe if the enemy comp has da Lucky E.

still kestrel
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aurora since that's coming after maint?

slow totem
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Unless you want to be wiped out.

sage thistle
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dis da SKWAAD

analog crypt
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I got helena belfast and juneau

slow totem
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Aurora’s not gonna do too much till we get level 120

analog crypt
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belfast is level 97

still kestrel
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it's in the patch notes

slow totem
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Cause no one has high enough evasion to be affected too much by her skill.

analog crypt
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and helena for the radar scan?

slow totem
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And she’s a complete glass cannon in her own regard

fallow monolith
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Aurora or avrora?

still kestrel
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aurora

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HMS

slow totem
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Aurora, the blond one

still kestrel
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not the cbt reward ship

slow totem
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Avrora is the white-haired one

analog crypt
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avrora is russian

slow totem
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Cyka

analog crypt
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I do have her btw

slow totem
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Avrora is very good for clearing the map for the 1st time

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Since her skill basically negates the No Ammo debuff

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Avrora I mean

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Not Helena haha

analog crypt
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so.... I missed a lot of potential not using avrora...

slow totem
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Niche use tho, only for clearing the map for the 1st time.

analog crypt
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with clearing map you mean killing all enemies?

still kestrel
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in PVE though?

slow totem
analog crypt
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im sorry, I got into CBT but im a complete noob in AL...

slow totem
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We all started somewhere. Ez.

fallow monolith
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hmm I need to make a hms fleet

slow totem
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They might not be the best of the best, but they are a blast to use.

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angryQueen 👌

analog crypt
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when the server is back online, should I post screenshots of my highest leveled ships?

slow totem
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When Monarch comes along, QE sadly gets supplanted

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But that won’t stop me from using her

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angryQueen 👌

fallow monolith
analog crypt
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so now im debating between heavy or do event construction

still kestrel
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if event construction is based off heavy like I read somewhere they just do event

analog crypt
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that is the problem... the meta pvps are in heavy, but event ships are limited

slow totem
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PvP is optional part of the game.

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This is Azur Lane, not Dota 2.

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Hope that helps to make a decision.

fallow monolith
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I hope there's an hood spook in the event construction

analog crypt
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I cant get the good ships to drop or construct, so I turned to merit to get myself a decent BB in SD

fallow monolith
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No Hood and Belfast sandyCry

analog crypt
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and my drop luck is stupid to boot

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like I have 4 fox girls and 1 laffey for example

fallow monolith
analog crypt
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so what is the most optimal setup for PVP?

abstract cypress
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debatable

real notch
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when is the maintenance back up?

analog crypt
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they said 6 hours after start

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so 3 PM CET

still kestrel
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possible it comes up earlier though

analog crypt
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expect the worst, hope for the best

slow totem
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Most optimal? None

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No comp is without weakness

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Adapt and improve.

pearl nimbus
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Most optimal. WaSD DansGame

slow totem
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Loooool!!

slow totem
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I sniped E at the 15 seconds mark

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To precisely avoid that standoff

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It’s so frustrating,

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Making the fight 6 v 5, then I snipe Washington next to hopefully avoid iron bottom triggering, but with E gone, it’s almost a guaranteed win so I’m not worried.

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If the frontline doesn’t have Eldridge, I even wiped both WASD simultaneously (SoDak surviving only with 1 HP due to skill), with Ark Royal.

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That was hilarious

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Niche use, but when it works, it works.

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Need a more reliable way to snipe E at 15 seconds tho

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Hence why I run HMS. Now, I mix and match for fun.

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Frontline isn’t strict anyway.

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Belfast is only there when foxes are around.

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Juneau is american tho

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she works with PoW

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Yea, I have PoW meme fleet now

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WASD PoW - Juneau Eldridge Helena

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Can’t complain cancer against PoW, haha, loophole

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Eeeeh, only if you face difficulty against WASDEnty, or like me, have some fun.

pastel forge
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I just need warspite for hms, not sure I want to invest in her tho

slow totem
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Yeah, not a priority if you don’t have too much trouble against Enterprises.

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Rather wait for DoY, about to say that.

proven wing
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so aurora is coming in EN does that mean akaga increased hit against enemy vanguard with belfast?

slow totem
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Maybe? But at level 100, she won’t do too much.

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When level 120 and Nagato comes, ohoho, Aurora’s stronk

pastel forge
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akaga should be better yes, as for how much better who knows

slow totem
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Only practice will tell.

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Then Jean Bart comes along and cucks AkaGa harder than AkaGa cucks Enterprise.

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Rock Paper Scissors

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No Escape

hybrid tendon
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nakaga when

analog crypt
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so... should I post images of every shiptipe or just main fleet and vanguard?

modern shoal
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Are the new ships pvp good?

livid fractal
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Only Aurora

analog crypt
high flume
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So, the meta rn is still either Royal Navy or US ships?

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Since the new german ships aren't quite useful for PvP right?

analog crypt
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I could go ahead and post specific types of ship if needed

high flume
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@analog crypt wait, how did u get Avrora? Is she already available?

analog crypt
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I was in the ending stretch of CBT

high flume
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@analog crypt Ah, I see

native mantle
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is there even any german ship thats pvp viable?

still kestrel
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no

wise summit
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is messerschmidt bad

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it seems to have literally no bomb

zenith tundra
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no homing torp and no aurora for me. trash rng

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i managed to get 2 rapair toolkits tho

abstract cypress
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u dont want no bomb planes in pvp

wise summit
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yeah nah I'm going to go with generally pointless everywhere

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blech, need aurora for futureproofing and potential meta, but also need event shipps

elder crane
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Has a niche use in being the fastest to launch.
I don't think that usually matters in PvP.

strange shuttle
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are the homing torpdos used in pvp? i dont see them.. homing in on targets?

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i got 2 gold/orange in 66 boxes and the rainbow box (rainbw gave nothing new)

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did you do an exersize? they visually fly off stright?

zenith tundra
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i use ryusei on my kaga. if they go on backlines u can expect a lot of dmage

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for enty only i would still go with commons tho

spare hedge
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Haven't tried the magtorps yet but I'm sure it's like Z23's torps

lone pendant
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its homing like tirpitz

strange shuttle
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idk what that means but i dont see homing going on

zenith tundra
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ill go for tirpitz 1st. she needs levels i can get homing anytime

bleak flicker
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ofc no gold quad from my boxes, should i use the purple triple homing on my third vanguard or stick with the other gold?

grave gale
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I only got 1 gold mag torp out of my 51 boxes. A quint.

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Got a bunch of other stuff though

zenith tundra
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i just tried a quad blue on my aya and it kinda of sucks tbh 1.2k dmg on a backline the gold one at +10 will deal a lot more but the tracking is minimal

bleak flicker
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if the tracking is minimal

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can u even hope to hit the enemy vanguard?

zenith tundra
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for pvp better than nothing for sure but dont expect to hit 4 instead of 1 or 2

bleak flicker
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mhm

grave gale
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Did manage to pull Aurora in 10 light construction pulls tho

zenith tundra
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wtf is that luck

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i still need the z sr

bleak flicker
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rng is rng, i needed about 15 times more trys 😄

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but happy with aurora anyway

native mantle
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how is tirpitz for pvp?

slate estuary
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No KMS ship is cut for pvp

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Tbh

native mantle
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allright

slate estuary
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Tirp provides no synergy

zenith tundra
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im thinking about trying tir grat enty with deusch and admiral for anti aurora but not expecting much

modern tree
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Have you considered/tried 100mm instead for the main gun

grave gale
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100mm is only good for power level boosting. laffeyDrink

modern tree
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Just asking. I didn't really feel like 100mm was worse for skills or barrages in pve, which is why I ask

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I dislike no damage and AA boost from 100mm is not insignificant

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Maybe that's right

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85% on kai I believe, but yea

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I guess I will do testing and math when I get home

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I respect oathing Warspite over QE LeanderXD

grave gale
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really sucks that we don't get the pvp mode

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I rather have that over the ex

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I've tried out the +10 gold quint on my laffey and yeah the homing is quite pathetic

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it slightly moves in their direction

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lol

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doesn't affect laffey's barrage torps only her normal ones

modern tree
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Waiting to see fleets using them on defense, where they are basically hugging your backline

zenith tundra
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is the homing effect actually weaker then z23 barrage?

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on blue quad it felt weaker than again its pvp not pve since i never used z23 in pvp

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i waz trying them because no luck with golds

grave gale
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It's a good thing this event gives 1 free rainbow and 1 gold quad

zenith tundra
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damage

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they do less than normal ones

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but since u can hit nore should be better

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i started farming too late for ironblood boxes guess its my bad

slow totem
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Finally, an eldridge blower other than foxes and JB

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Commences Christmas Eldridge idle animation

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🚀

zenith tundra
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i use foxes so who cares about eldrdge

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also would u consider belfast an aurora counter?

slow totem
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Belfast cares, cause Belfast enables Eldridge to rainbow your Foxes 2nd burst

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Then Juneau dies in the 3rd burst, healing the whole fleet

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That’s how my Anti-Akaga vanguard works

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Aurora counters everyone that’s not a CA, how effective it’d be? Eh, I dunno.

grave gale
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Aurora counters herself.

slow totem
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Hahahahahahaha!!

charred sable
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Hmm, is it just me or does the gold quint magna torp suck?

modern tree
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Are mirrored seas coming later or are we stuck with EX?

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It looks like cruel fate denied us one other pvp thing we could discuss

grave gale
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No mirror seas

hybrid obsidian
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is ex not that?

real notch
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Fuck me lol

grave gale
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we got a mix between the original and rerun

hybrid obsidian
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oh

real notch
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I cant get aurora

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I got 4 sandys tho

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And a belfast

hybrid obsidian
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lol, u spamming light???

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lulul

real notch
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Yea

grave gale
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the original didn't have ex and the rerun didn't have mirror seas

hybrid obsidian
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finally

real notch
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And i accidentally rolled limited by accident

grave gale
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we got everything from the rerun version except the submarines

real notch
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Oh nice gz

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I got graf

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By accident

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Lol

hybrid obsidian
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oh

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lol

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o rolled 20

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got bel and graf

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and the z girl w flag protection

grave gale
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I got aurora on my 4th light construction pull when I did my 10 pull

hybrid obsidian
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currently lvling graf and her

grave gale
hybrid obsidian
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dem

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gz

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whats ur ign so i can watch out for and test

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lel

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in a week or two

grave gale
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I had bad luck with my 51 ironblood boxes tho. Only 1 quint mag. 0 quad

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0 105s too.

real notch
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Fuck me man

hybrid obsidian
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im out of books so my kms girls will be like a month before they get max skills

real notch
hybrid obsidian
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but they ll be 200 aff next wk

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poor sandy

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hm, there s quint and quad mag?

grave gale
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yes

hybrid obsidian
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i ve gotten 0 gold torp from 30 ironblood boxes

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lul

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got a me155

real notch
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Oh

hybrid obsidian
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well, i heard it sux

grave gale
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Someone opened like 70 ironblood and didn't get any magnetic torps

real notch
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Are y guys finally opening ur boxes

grave gale
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oof

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they seem to be pretty damn rare

hybrid obsidian
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ye

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i opened my t5 box

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guess whag

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another 203 skc

grave gale
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my t5 gave me the crappy AP BB gun.

hybrid obsidian
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eternally cursed by skc 203

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ah

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i +10 that too, should ve asked

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was too hype cuz i like gold gun

real notch
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Alright i just opened 46 boxes

hybrid obsidian
modern tree
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I opened 60 boxes, got 2 quint and one quad mags

hybrid obsidian
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wait so quint vs quad mag

real notch
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I got 1 magtorp and 1 me155 and 1 twin 380

hybrid obsidian
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which better

modern tree
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preeeeetttttyyy sure quint golds are trash

hybrid obsidian
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lol, there the rainbow so im like

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ye

modern tree
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dont quote me on that tho

hybrid obsidian
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i dont know hiw to quote in discord anyhow

grave gale
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quint or quad, erebus?

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you can't quote on discord without using betterdiscord

hybrid obsidian
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in fact, i havent look at their stat page at all

real notch
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Idk

hybrid obsidian
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better discord?

grave gale
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or some other third party plugin

real notch
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I just spent 60k gold

hybrid obsidian
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you mean like pc?

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oh

real notch
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And didnt get aurora

grave gale
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what about st lewdis?

modern tree
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I dumped 70k on limited and didnt get zepp

real notch
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Aurora is in light build right

hybrid obsidian
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i didnt think about aurora at all and just went and did my limited

grave gale
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yes

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I got her from light

hybrid obsidian
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event*

grave gale
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I can confirm she's there

hybrid obsidian
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ok

real notch
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Dude i rolled 10x limited by accident and got graf

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But that was 12000 gold wasted

hybrid obsidian
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imma go do light after this then

modern tree
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good job

hybrid obsidian
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cuz it seems z46 is farmable

real notch
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Cus i dont even want her

modern tree
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I do, I got everything but her, I dont want another hole in my collection, fucking Maryland

hybrid obsidian
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oh what

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didnt get her?

modern tree
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also want to try running meme semi KMS pvp fleets

real notch
hybrid obsidian
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i think i got so many i lost cou t

real notch
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I have $5

hybrid obsidian
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oh, that looks familiar

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this morning i got 69 left

real notch
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I didn't even get bucky

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Or st lewis

hybrid obsidian
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as of now im missing the above and the feet gal

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whatever her name is

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how many event pts are you guys at?

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got rainbow torp to test in pvp yet?

real notch
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Omfg

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Alright

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I just spent like

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80k

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Everything i had left in missions n mail

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And i only got bucky

hybrid obsidian
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game senses your desperation

grave gale
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victim to the desire sensor

real notch
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i'm sadly farming the event maps now

livid fractal
slow totem
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You can quote with base discord commands

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@grave gale

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Typed these from scratch through my phone.

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Just use ``` as brackets

grave gale
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that's not a real quote

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that's using a special syntax in place of a quote.

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coral wren
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hello I dunno if its been asked, should I start to equip anti torp buwulges on my BBs in pvp? when I am facing ayayaya and other torps?

finite valve
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only matter if they got a front line that buff torp damage to sky high

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which we don't currently got

modern tree
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too early

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but might want to prepare some for your front because torps gonna be more popular

finite valve
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not if you don't have the damage to back it up

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mag torp in general have less damage then normal torp

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and you bet your butt that ppl going to switch to mag after this event

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which mean ayaya is going to do less damage then normal lol

slow totem
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And the 50% damage reduction doesn’t help

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Make no mistake, it still packs a punch, but she won’t be replacing Lucky E in terms of damage output from a single ship.

finite valve
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need w10 for ayaya to do any decent damage with mag torp

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atm nah just whatever tbh

slow totem
modern tree
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You cant stop me from trying aya bucky kagerou

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but Aurora will

finite valve
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1 lucky E = gg

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lol

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lucky E alone going to wipe that front

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let alone + aurora buff

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overkill

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also aurora = use CA

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ez

elder crane
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Well, the point is to run that with a team that snipes E

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On offense, AKaga+Hood comes to mind for now

slow totem
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Akaga Hood or classic HMS.

elder crane
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AKaga+Hood+TorpFL gives the fastest possible PvP battles

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Which can be useful in top 10 rush

finite valve
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the only way to snip E is use hms and hope that they don't put E in center

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or nagaka when they come

slow totem
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I replace Warspite with Ark Royal if E is in the center. GWmemetownOMEGALUL

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Is it the best comp? Nah

Is it fun? Hell yes

finite valve
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still RNG if the torp decide to hit her or not

slow totem
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Yeah, hence the fun part.

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I use double Ryuusei on her

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Damn, it’s fun when it works

finite valve
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just enjoy big e now

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in the future pvp is going to be mirror all the way

slow totem
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Big E doesn’t get buffed by da Queen!

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Using same comp 24/7 bores me out and I’m only here for the Purins

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End of season rank? Couldn’t care less.

finite valve
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i am not even using a def fleet

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put 2 70 ship in and call it a day

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too many try hard

slow totem
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My defense fleet is Ark Royal and Vert with Trio Mutsukis.

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Maximum Jail Time

finite valve
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still missing the red one

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got the other 2

slow totem
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But light build hell lol

finite valve
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if only i got the patience to not do 1 daily light build per day

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now with vampy in the mix

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oh boi

slow totem
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Oh shieeeet

modern tree
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You guys dont have 200 affection Vampire yet? I pity you

slow totem
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Step away from the draculoli, Sir.

finite valve
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pretty sure sharky is a better dracu then a dracu loli can ever be lel

slow totem
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Haaaaaah!

grave gale
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Giving Aya's torps a unique skin is useful for spotting hers among the others

strange shuttle
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is z46 useable at all for pvp? or some kind of niche german setup?

modern tree
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her barrage looks fun, but AP speciality is moderately useless on a DD

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she could work with Z1, but she released along Aurora so the future for that is not bright

modern tree
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I really hate sodak, why did I decide to play this meme ass fleet for this season , its not even fair, why can she straight up outdamage Enterprise, why does it seem like her proc makes her shells fly faster so she always obliterates everything, this dumbass ship vaporises frontlines barely slower than akaga

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clean 400 fp base is not enough, gotta spice it up with 30% to just remove everything her shells touch and 5 seconds invincibility when deployed with wash, where's Nagato

untold folio
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Tbh I just flap out my hms against sodak

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And snipe the wash

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Sodak is annoying as hell tho

sour phoenix
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The twin 380 gold os good on hood for pvp or i just should forget it ?

vague token
#

is that the new bb gun?

strange shuttle
#

1eaGHBN

#

NO Iits bunny jumping on my laptop

vague token
#

o.O

strange shuttle
#

so sorry for the gibberish

untold folio
#

The BB gun in shop is not good

#

Ap ratios suck

vague token
#

bb ap guns should have a property that aims backline xD

#

with the first shot

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instead of the front

#

then rng after that would be fine

wraith hollow
#

How viable is graf tirpitz and enty?

vague token
#

i mean, there's no synergy there, just a bunch of solos

#

although i guess graf reduces damage on tirpitz

real notch
#

Omfg

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6 sandys 4 belfasts

#

0 aurora

#

????

vague token
#

rekt

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i only built 5 today

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not going to rush

#

but i did get 1 gold mag torp out of my 55 ironblood t4s

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so that's nice

real notch
hot creek
#

wish i could say the same

#

opened two T5 boxes and fourty-two T4 boxes and got hot garbage

#

I did get one CA gun though so that's nice.

#

really need those mag torps though

hybrid obsidian
#

sirre tries too hard

#

game rng messing with your desire

grave gale
#

You don't need her right away

#

she'll eventually come with the dailies

grave gale
#

I bought both of the torps from the event store first before anything else. Priorities. cleveDaddy

strange shuttle
#

i got 2 out of 66, and the second one was from the last 6

grave gale
#

I only got a single gold quint out of 51

hot creek
#

even getting one is pretty lucky it seems

strange shuttle
#

yeah, like i said i was 1 out of 60, lol

#

well

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67 acutally

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i used my rainbow box too

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that gave like my 5th? 7th? idk

grave gale
#

my rainbow gave me the crappy new AP BB gun

strange shuttle
#

ap gun

#

mine was the old one used by cas or w/e

grave gale
#

at least I didn't get any cranes in all of them

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gold ones that is

strange shuttle
#

i got a crane or 2

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and a few purple too

hot creek
#

cranes are not even bad compared to the rest of the garbage gold equips

#

at least you get a aux plate

strange shuttle
#

i think i got a gold/ornage plane, i didnt gold/ornage any of the new guns out of those 66

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got some of those older ap guns though

grave gale
#

380mm: 2
Catapult: 2
Quint Mag: 1
SKC: 4
ME155: 1

That's all the golds I got from my 51 gold and 1 rainbow.

strange shuttle
#

67*

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keepforgetting to count the rainbow

hot creek
grave gale
#

I wouldn't call 105s garbage

strange shuttle
#

that aa ig good

hot creek
#

any AA that isn't a roomba or bofors is garbage

#

at best transitionary equipment

grave gale
#

More gold AA guns (not pompoms) are appreciated
I'm a bit bummed that I didn't get a single 105

#

The 105s are stuff you can use on your pve fleets though

strange shuttle
#

i got 4 ap guns (the old gun for CA's or w/e) , 2 homing, 1 crane,2 AA, and 1 plane for 66 boxes and 1 rainbow (ap gun from rainbow)

#

i didnt gold/orange any new guns

hot creek
#

thats lucky

grave gale
#

I plan to give both of the MEI55 planes to lusty for maximum anti-air. sandyMeme

#

Could be fun to try that out in pvp against foxes and see if it melts their planes

hot creek
#

im going to have to farm for mag torp blueprints once we find out where they drop

#

im already being trolled by mag torps in pvp

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shit hits the backline is annoying as fuck

grave gale
#

the quad mag are in D1

strange shuttle
#

well i think im good with torps, since oncei buy out shp il have 3 gold/orange and rainbow, and i +10 the 2 i got from boxes and i prob can +10 the rainbow oncei got the currency, gonna try now tb h

hot creek
#

i wonder which one is better for pvp, the quad or the quint

strange shuttle
#

i always 5 tube forms for auto be it pvp or w/e

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i only quad on ayamai doing shotgun manuals

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i perfer to aim 5 tube ones otuside that

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welp did it

grave gale
#

aripanda's guide says the quad

hot creek
#

yeah i'm thinking the quad as well cause more damage per shot

#

which is kind of what you want here

strange shuttle
#

how is it more damae? it says its the same damage but one more torpduo, unless im not understanding something

vague token
#

they talking about gold non-mag

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gold non-mag has highest total damage

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(quad)

#

but it whiffs in pvp cause spread and only 4

#

but on pve manual it's fine

strange shuttle
#

oh yeah ofc

hot creek
#

well, i was talking about gold mags lol

vague token
#

oh

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xD

hot creek
#

but still

#

no need to compare the rainbow one, that's a given lol

#

oh shit, I didn't realize they give you another mag torp from quest.

#

maybe i don't really need to farm blueprints afterall

#

really only need three in total for defense fleet troll

vague token
#

yeah dont need a lot, unless you want some for pve too

ionic hill
glossy jay
#

taste 🤢

lone pendant
#

milf fleet

slow totem
#

MILFs!!!

hybrid obsidian
#

good taste

#

lel

real notch
#

Man

#

Ive used literally 150 cubes

#

With no aurora

grave gale
#

I think you have a problem

#

Maybe you should try your trick.

hot creek
#

can she appear in the event banner?

grave gale
#

light construction only

zenith tundra
#

she's not related to opposite colored event

#

she was just added at the same time

#

i only tried 5 pulls for aurora and managed to get a sandy. this is gonna be worse then the 180 cubes i used on kms builds

hybrid obsidian
#

hm, you guys just roll daily, she ll be there

#

chiill

#

lel

zenith tundra
#

yeah it's not like i have literally 0 cubes now... i'm sure i'll get her before 2020

quiet adder
#

is using magnetic torps better in pvp?

vague token
#

i mean, how lucky are you with gold quads xD

#

those are obviously the most damaging, but they usually whiff

#

cause auto

hot creek
#

wow apparently EN doesn't get the extra mag torp from quest

#

gay

slow totem
#

We don’t have the fun Pseudo-PvP mode either

#

FeelsBadMan

gleaming merlin
#

for ente, should I have two steam catapults or one catapult and one oil tank?

slow totem
#

PvP is always one purple oil tank, and one gold cata

#

The gold double cata is for PvE, cause plane health doesn’t matter there.

gleaming merlin
#

how does UFO compare to Bofors?

slow totem
#

UFO has higher range but slow rate of fire, perfect on ships with high AA efficiency, like most DDs and Atlanta-class CLs.

#

On ships with lower AA efficiency, better put in bofors or they’ll fire too slow.

gleaming merlin
#

how important is dual gun for washi and southy?

#

I don't have enough to go around xd

slow totem
#

If you want to counter Eldridge and Enterprise, pretty important.

#

Otherwise, standard triple gun is fine.

gleaming merlin
#

does it increase their damage?

slow totem
#

No, it lowers their damage but makes them fire faster before the two ships proc their invulnerability skills

gleaming merlin
#

would it be better on them than juneau and eldridge?

slow totem
#

Juneau and Eldridge can’t equip those guns, they are BB guns.

#

Assuming dual for bb is the Purple Twin 410mm

gleaming merlin
#

sorry I meant 127mm twins

slow totem
#

Oh, then yeah, good on them, bad on Juneau and Eldridge

#

Juneau wants the Twin 100mm. Eldridge can use thenblue 76mm or same as Juneau

gleaming merlin
#

so purps are good enough for juneau and eldridge?

#

twin 100mm

#

how about helena?

slow totem
#

Use the tbtsk (AP) or the Belgun (HE) for Helena.

#

Purples are good if you don’t have the gold, obvious anyway.

gleaming merlin
#

is 406mk6 better for southy than 410mm?

slow totem
#

Refer to what I said about countering Enterprise and Eldridge above for that.

quiet adder
#

cuz i got a couple from opening 80 german boxes and there's that rainbow mag torp too

gleaming merlin
#

is it better to have my ufos on front line or back line?

#

i only have two

slow totem
#

🌈 torps

#

Ufo on frontline ships with high AA efficiency

#

Like Juneau, Eldridge

#

Sandy

gleaming merlin
#

if my front line is helana, bel, and juneau

slow totem
#

Juneau ofc

gleaming merlin
#

back is ente, washi and southy

#

who gets the last ufo

#

i only have 2 ;w;

slow totem
#

In that case, use UFO on Juneau, Bofors on the restl

#

Save the spare UFO for someone else with high AA efficiency

gleaming merlin
#

should I replace one of them

slow totem
#

That’s my opinion anyway.

gleaming merlin
#

with someone with high aa

slow totem
#

Er... up to you, infinite resets

slow totem
#

Do not be afraid to experiment

#

Practical Experience > Some vet telling you what to do

gleaming merlin
#

my team before was like bel/aya/laffey xd

#

worked out fine

#

until laterrrr

slow totem
#

You wouldn’t know until you try right?

gleaming merlin
#

when i couldn't beat jun/bel/eldridge

slow totem
#

Go out there and experiment!

gleaming merlin
#

what factors into the points?

slow totem
#

Rank difference.

gleaming merlin
#

i'd win repeatedly with left most everytime

slow totem
#

I do that too

gleaming merlin
#

and sometimes hit first place

#

but never manage to keep it

slow totem
#

I don’t bother with the ranking sadbagging

#

I just attack leftmost and done with my day.

grave gale
#

@slow totem So you would say bofor over 113 for Ayanami despite her high reload because she has a low eff?

slow totem
#

Always get Gensui/Admiral of the Navy every season.

#

I dunno, UFO on Aya is even worse

#

I tested it myself

#

No matter what AA gun you put on Aya, it’s going to be bad anyway, just a matter which one is worse.

#

Low efficiency really screws her up, bru. Try it.

vague token
#

you could just use one of those weird purple/blues that has crazy reload

#

xD

#

dunno if that's a thing

#

just to help the rest of the team

modern tree
#

Just use ufo for range if you can spare one

gleaming merlin
#

okay I set up my main pvp fleet for now owo

#

thanks

#

gunna see how far I can get next pvp reset

slow totem
#

Np, fam, have good matches.

gleaming merlin
#

maybe I should pledge them all

#

for that 3% bonus

slow totem
#

It doesn’t matter. One of the worst Gem to Reward ratio in the entire game.

#

600 gems for a measly 6% boost

#

That’s why I have a bot command for Stat-Oathers

#

point and laugh

hidden wyvernBOT
gleaming merlin
slow totem
#

🐳

#

Here comes the moneeeeeeeey!!

gleaming merlin
#

also why is SG radar

#

recommended

#

for pvp

slow totem
#

For Battleships

gleaming merlin
#

oh the Hit

slow totem
#

Accurancy and Evasion

#

Win-win

grave gale
#

stat boost that's always available > skin that's only serves a purpose when you wear it

#

how often do you wear the same skin before you get tired of it and switch to something else?

slow totem
#

The other way around for me.

#

Stat-Oathers are just another kind of wehl.

#

And I’m not a wehl.

gleaming merlin
#

keep the skin always on

slow totem
#

That’s BANNED skin

#

Quick, remove it

#

Mods will get angery

grave gale
#

it's not banned anymore

gleaming merlin
#

lol is it actually banned? GWnanamiRemThink

slow totem
#

Oh?!

#

Not anymore?!

#

Huzzah!

gleaming merlin
#

2lewdd?

slow totem
#

Yes, cause semen-like lotion animation

gleaming merlin
#

isn't that the point

slow totem
#

Ask Discord’s ToS

grave gale
#

oh nm. they unbanned and rebanned it

#

people here can't make up their minds

slow totem
#

Hahahahahaha!

flint yarrow
#

i guess albacore gonna get banned too then

#

why make lewd chars if jus gonna ban them

#

do i just not attack?

slow totem
#

Refresh I’d say

#

The ban is for Discord only, cause of Discord’s ToS anyway

#

Yostar has no power over it

gleaming merlin
#

do we get less points for quick runs like that?

grave gale
#

It's banned because people can't stop being horny perverts here.

flint yarrow
#

lmao

slow totem
#

It’s also against Discord’s ToS, the Deutschland one.

#

The Albacore one is no longer banned.

gleaming merlin
#

its not banned if we rate the room NSFW

grave gale
#

I don't think it anything to do with discord itself. Plenty of discord channels have hentai.

slow totem
#

It’s banned since this is a verified server, look at the checkmark up there

grave gale
#

They just don't like the discussion that accompanies whenever people post it

slow totem
#

That’s why the ALEC discord has an nsfw channel, cause it’s not verified.

#

Verified channels have stricter rules on them

gleaming merlin
#

what does verified even do

slow totem
#

That’s why the FFXIV official discord got flak, cause they had nsfw room while having the verified status

gleaming merlin
#

make us family friendly?

slow totem
#

Make you eligible for promotions and stuff, I guess? I dunno. Also power to assert that you are the official discord for “X game/movie/community” here.

#

Or else I can make an “Azur Lane Official” too and claim it’s official. Legal stuff. Meh.

hot creek
#

the biggest motivation of becoming a partnership discord or "verified" one is that the admins get free Nitro

modern tree
#

Player versus Perverts

slow totem
hot creek
#

there was actually some huge drama when KC wikia discord became official. Anyways, the admin of the server was being an asshole and enforcing rules loosely and being all around hypocritical . The mods called him out on it and he tried to cover it up and stuff and the whole thing fell apart lol

#

admin took down a whole server just cause he wanted free nitro lel

hot creek
#

fuck

#

im not sure if i finished my pvps

#

god. that's the worst

#

@modern tree hey daxam, how many points you at right now?

odd schooner
hot creek
#

are all the servers on the same pvp schedule?

#

could someone who hasn't missed a match yet show me their current score for reference? lol

slow totem
#

Uhm... brb.

#

I don’t deliberately sandbag, so might be lower than others

hot creek
#

im at 982 sandbagging every time i can.

#

fuck

#

yeah i defintely missed my pvps

slow totem
#

Oof

#

No worries, still higher score than me, I always get Gensui and I don’t sandbag

hot creek
#

guess i have to wait yet another season again to attempt #1

slow totem
#

So you’re fine.

#

How long does that #1 last? 5 minutes, then season reset? XD

hot creek
#

nah it lasts like 5 hours m8

slow totem
#

Ooooh, then those 5 hours must be in my sleep schedule

hot creek
#

its just a dumb sense of pride and accomplishment thing

#

I want to be 1 at least once at end of season

#

i could have done it everytime but I keep fucking it up

#

getting distracted at last minute n shit

#

this time in particular I was changing my defense fleet

slow totem
#

Hmmm... that’s why I don’t bother with it anymore, too much stress for 5 hours of prise and accomplishment

hot creek
#

and changing my loadout

slow totem
#

Just want 2500 merits then go off.

hot creek
#

to mag torps

#

assumed i finished but i didn't

slow totem
#

Defense fleet doesn’t matter imo, since you’ll be defending against capable Commanders at top 100

#

They’ll beat your fleet, eventually

hot creek
#

I also completley forgot about my daily hard mode attemps LUUL im a fucking idiot

slow totem
#

Yikes...

#

Take a breather, comrade.

#

Hard Mode BPs > PvP ranks

hot creek
#

defense is important in the last 7 or so minutes before reset

#

you want to put something that can at least contest another sandbagger

#

so that they can't take advantage of you when you're rushing your pvp

slow totem
#

I see. thinkpitz so very, very, niche use. Fair point

#

Since I’m not a sandbagger, Imma keep my G2G to Jail defense fleet then.

hot creek
#

i usually swap my defense to a meme fleet after each reset and then put it back to a real fleet as i'm doing my last second pvps

#

I don't like leaving up my actual defense fleet when they're ungeared

slow totem
#

Hey, giving lower level commanders free xp ain’t bad imo

#

A little good deed everyday

rancid totem
#

What’s sandbagging

hot creek
#

waiting till your opponents do their pvps

#

because you get more points doing that

#

usually can do two matches per reset where that happens

#

three times if lucky

#

anyways, doing this sometimes leads to last minute pvp'ing

#

which is fine if you don't get distracted

real notch
#

Omfg

#

Finally

#

204 cubes later

#

No aurura

#

I got graf in 6 rolls xd

#

Aurora took me literally fukin 100k gold

leaden jay
#

Is Tirpitz not viable in PvP

slow totem
#

Light Build Hell

#

Not really cause Hood exists

#

Unfortunately... sigh...

leaden jay
#

I guess

#

but..

#

I use South Dakota and Wash

slow totem
#

What’s stopping you from using her?

leaden jay
#

so no space for Hood

slow totem
#

WASD Hood is amazing brudder

#

Try it

vague token
#

wasd works well with hood

slow totem
#

You won’t be disappointed

leaden jay
#

but I like Enteeeeeeeee

#

Enteeeeee does so much dmg

slow totem
#

Let Enty rest

leaden jay
#

No

real notch
#

The desire sensor is real AwauuEyes

vague token
#

honestly, enty isnt there for damage, she's there for invuln

leaden jay
#

Enty must be in every PvP fight

vague token
#

xD

slow totem
#

FREAKING HOOOOOOOOD

leaden jay
#

lol

slow totem
#

Life is dull without spices

vague token
#

if E and rainbow are active, 4/6 ships are invuln at the 20 lol

slow totem
#

PvP is dull if you use the same comp 24/7

leaden jay
#

Play to win, not to spice smugBucky

slow totem
#

No experimentation, no learning

vague token
#

oof

slow totem
#

:wesmart

vague token
#

meta bois

leaden jay
#

I wanna try triple carrier

#

double foxes and Enteee

slow totem
#

Dew it!

leaden jay
#

but I don't have enough

slow totem
#

The world is meant to be explored.

leaden jay
#

for LB

#

oof

vague token
#

still training NC for triple carrier xD

slow totem
#

Do crazy things, crazy comps, enjoy the madness.

leaden jay
#

I used to run Enty Hood and grandma

vague token
#

sorry... grandma?

slow totem
#

@vague token I did a WASD NoCal - Juneau Sandy Cleveland meme fleet.

They managed to pop ALL of Akaga’s planes

#

It was a very very satisfying moment

#

I came.

leaden jay
#

Yes, grandma

slow totem
#

Warspite

vague token
#

oh, dont think ive heard that name yet xD

slow totem
#

She calls herself one. XD

vague token
#

/never used her

slow totem
#

She is the oldest HMS ship around after all.

leaden jay
slow totem
#

Use her, explore!

#

BELLI DURA DESPACITO!

#

misses both shots

vague token
#

waiting for more slow skill main fleets

#

centaur/monarch

#

xD

slow totem
#

That picture, saved!

leaden jay
slow totem
#

I think post level 70 (I’m 87 now), I started to not give a fuck

leaden jay
#

Grandma was my first ever backline SR

slow totem
#

My Meta-self slowly got supplanted by Meme Galore.

leaden jay
#

and then Enty

#

as my first special craft

slow totem
#

Mmmmh... delicious pulls

#

Belli Dura Despacito can take 1/3 of Enty’s HP if both shot hits

#

Delicious

leaden jay
#

Yeah, but I had to use Warspite for PvE until I got the other ships

#

and she's not really good for PvE smugBucky

slow totem
#

It was Yorktown Saratoga Hood for me

#

During my early early days

slow totem
hot creek
#

except the one who shoots first is the one who loses sandyMeme

slow totem
#

Not if the other one doesn’t Owari Da. sandyMeme

hot creek
#

true. but I should just change it to: except in this case you will always lose cause your E will fail to proc while enemy E procs 100% of the time sandyMeme

slow totem
#

Hahahahahaha!

#

Too real, brudder

urban coral
#

Huh. guess I'm lucky

hollow dawn
#

@slow totem btw this is no fun allowed zone, so tone down a bit with memes smugBucky

slow totem
#

Sad...

grave gale
#

That meme is pvp relevant though. lol

hollow dawn
#

sure...

#

let's pretend I believe you smugBucky

#

It was more of a warning to not spam those, not an actual "you doing something wrong"

grave gale
#

I don't think this channel has a rule against memes. That's #gameplay-help. You just have to stay on topic here.

slow totem
#

MEMES!

hollow dawn
#

It's a bit more complex, but sure, it's fine as long as about PvP and relevant to the discussion

#

(but if some other mod tells you to stop - just do it laffeyHide )

slow totem
#

MEMEEEEEEES!!

#

Sir, yes, sir

hollow dawn
#

__ "relevant to the discussion"__

slow totem
#

Bonk me, Sir, I’ve been a bad boi this X-mas

odd schooner
#

6 hours and 3 refresh later.. no one's pushing on my list

slow totem
#

This is why I abandon the Sandbag wae

modern tree
#

Just do your games on a schedule, if they play, farm them, if they didn't, oh well, you have to play out the charges anyway and it's all up to luck. I have transcended

#

But I guess it's easier for me to say cuz I already got my #1 for a season alBait

strange shuttle
#

OMFG!!! it makes sense now, warsrpite being grandma is why she only works in pvp, she has bad eyesight making it hard to hit bomb boats and other things moving around

#

@slow totem I just use a purple version because her aa is so low:

#

still has 35 range so why not?

slow totem
#

Yeah. It’s gonna bad whatever you choose anyway

#

So might as well

strange shuttle
#

also even if you do not need to sandbag to get max rank its still helpful to help get more 90 merit wins (when that first opens) then 100 merit wins when that acess first happens

#

but ya def not needed just can be helpful

modern tree
#

To get 90 merit you only need to take all the games above 1000 rank after you reach 1050 season score

#

Which should be easy if you play regularly without missing too many games

zenith tundra
#

better quad or quint homing for aya?

elder crane
#

Quint for burst, quad for dps, assuming you mean gold for both

#

But it may depend more on the timings at which you'll use torps

slow totem
#

Rainbow Quint, barring none since it’s only Aya

#

For more than 1 ship, what Blue said

elder crane
#

Like, Quint burst might be better, but if it's not up in time, it's useless
And Quad may have better DpS, but if you don't get an extra launch in, it's just worse;
unless you land the same number of torps per launch, at which the higher per-torp damage makes it better

slow totem
#

It’s just Aya tho, a single ship, then Rainbow Quint.

#

Best of both worlds

elder crane
#

Mostly, aside from the very niche scenario in which the quinttorps aren't loaded in time

slow totem
#

Put Aya at the front, she will guaranteed to launch torps first by game design

elder crane
#

I mean, like, 3X launches of gold quad torps are better than 2X launches of rainbow quint torps; that sense of it

slow totem
#

Oh... interesting

#

Why so?

#

Oh wait... I get it. I’m dumb

elder crane
#

But the loading time difference is small, hence "very niche"

slow totem
#

Yeaaah. Interesting big maff nonetheless

strange shuttle
#

is there any possable way of using z46 in pvp or she just second rate pve?

slate estuary
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z46 is part of one of the strongest pve trios

strange shuttle
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really?

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i never seen that talked about

slate estuary
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wait

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typo

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kms ships don't exist in pvp

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my bad

modern tree
strange shuttle
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whats kms?

slate estuary
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german

sturdy lantern
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Ironblood

slow totem
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Kriegsmarine

modern tree
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AP ammo, and therfore a specialty for it, doesnt work in pvp

slate estuary
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they really don't have a place in pvp

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esp with aurora on the loose

strange shuttle
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i figured as much

slow totem
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FeelsBadMan

modern tree
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no one will stop you from trying it

slow totem
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That too tho

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Infinite resets anyway

sturdy lantern
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Was there a cranes vs foxes calculation or sth like that?

modern tree
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and worst case, you have a really good pve ship

strange shuttle
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lolno i just wanted some kind of agurment to buy the skin for her

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and if i never use her im not paying 1k gems for that

slow totem
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Cranes start to be stronger than foxes post 90 seconds mark

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The problem is already obvious

slate estuary
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yeeep.

sturdy lantern
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Wasn't it 60 tho?

slate estuary
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90

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cos you have to account for foxes launch speed

slow totem
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They are long dead by then

slate estuary
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foxes launch 0.5 more

gaunt fiber
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and frontline?

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helena + wichita?

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yeah yeah i know, but i wasn't sure if it would do well in pvp

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i should be leveling juneao too right?

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ty naroEhehe

real notch