avrora-general

[flat palm]

liskarm good pick then

Red is kinda niche

[warm bluff]

Ya I'm leaning more towards liskarm, but i also haven't really felt a need for a better defender yet

[flat palm]

yea i only use hoshiguma

ch'en is my other frontliner

[warm bluff]

I just press win button and small brain maps

[verbal obsidian]

more like smooth brain

haha got em

[flat palm]

im missing 2 integ device, 5 orirock clusters, 2 rma70 and 6 sugar packs

but only got like 400 sanity left to use today

500 with natural refresh

prob not enough

integ device and rma drop rate too shit

[stuck copper]

i'm fine with the sanity system. it's the requirements that need to chill. 36 for a shitty chip is too much.

and to make matters worse, it's random

[flat palm]

oh nice, sugar lump special drop

i never get a bonus item from crafting stuff in workshop

i need to farm 8 supporter chips for Angelina so i feel your pain cal, sadly its not open today

[stuck copper]

i got a chip, once.

from converting chips

[flat palm]

i was tempted to convert my 6 vanguard chips but i need them for Texas e2 at one point i guess

[verbal obsidian]

toxicity, infinite wallet, and internet access. These were the ingredients to create the perfect toxic AK player. But professor yostar accidentally added an extra chemical, chemical Aki.

THUS, THE AKI WAS BORN

[flat palm]

wtf

im not toxic..

[verbal obsidian]

using his toxic powers, he held a reign of terror over avrora-gen chat

[stuck copper]

i'm sitting on 38 large chips atm

[flat palm]

o.o

god, i am fucking dreading farming 6 d32 steel to finish ch'en s2

[stuck copper]

i always farm chips first and end up with tons of other ones

[flat palm]

and angelina e2 i need to farm 8 supporter chips, about 400k lmd, 2 chip catalysts and lots of xp

luckily annihilation 3 rewards

helps with that

[stuck copper]

at least you can farm d32 whenever you want

[flat palm]

ya

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/659365520478437386/675328536608768041/Screenshot_20200207-081408.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/659365520478437386/675328537305153536/Screenshot_20200207-081414.jpg

annih 3 rewards

decent chunk of lmd and xp

i believe its 5k + 8k + 10k + 15k + 20k + 25k + 30k + 40k

so a decent chunk of lmd towards my angelina e2 fund

[stuck copper]

all that shit will be gone in 5 seconds

[flat palm]

basicly

but hey its sanity saved

angelina is the last E2 i want done before i start working on upping everyone to E2 lvl 30 and lots of skill specializing

ik ontop of my head i want to do m2 angie s3, m3 ch'en s2, m1 hoshiguma and sora last skill, ifrit and eyja im unsure on because their 2 skills are flexible

[stuck copper]

i'll do eyja s2 for synergy

eyja, saria, skyfire

[flat palm]

one bipolar nanoflake to go

but only 2 refreshes left

1 integ device, 2 orirock clusters, 1 rma70 and 1 sugar pack

guess ill do the integ device shit first

incase i get an optimized device drop, boy would i love that right about now

[flat palm]

update: i didnt, but i managed to barely finish the 4 bipolar nanoflakes with 10 sanity left

we good to go now, just tons of lmd and xp to go

[verbal obsidian]

[flat palm]

Just angie left now

[next onyx]

[flat palm]

kinda just want Saria over hoshiguma, silverash over lappland and thats kinda just it

hard to improve my team after that

I noticed people on cn dont really use defenders anymore, just saria or nian if they do

And just use op guards like blaze or hellugar with 1 healer and rest dps

[somber halo]

good morning fellow azur laners

[flat palm]

Mornyan

[verbal obsidian]

top of the morning frayya

[verbal obsidian]

[somber halo]

dat toilet tho

i still want this toilet

[icy plume]

[somber halo]

same

i need one more

[icy plume]

Into the trash it goes though

[somber halo]

[gentle quail]

[grizzled crag]

@icy plume nice! i got no luck so far

[stuck copper]

Her mole's make me a things.

But rossiya mole is.. too much

[warm bluff]

[warm ice]

[ornate mantle]

I would like a Pred

But if you’re in need of Liskarm it shouldn’t hurt

She’s an SP battery, so she should also be making your BP more OP

[magic moon]

bleh, mornings...

but I did get a Meteorite on one ticket this morning when the banner hit

[ornate mantle]

Pog

[magic moon]

now I gotta decide if I wanna roll for Siege or just buy her

[ornate mantle]

I’d say just buy her if possible

[gilded mural]

Dang 3 ur prints

Lucky

[magic moon]

good advice!

or more like, I rolled anyway, got Blue Poison

[ornate mantle]

Nice

She’s good to have

[magic moon]

yeah, I'm mostly content with my roster now

only place I don't have a really good unit is single-target heals

eventually I'll wanna bring out Hibiscus, just gotta decide between Myrrh or Gavial

[warm epoch]

Gavial

Great aoe healing

[magic moon]

I don't need AOE healing, though, I have Nightingale. ^^

and Pt if for some reason I needed two

[grand dew]

this was my 5* gara on 6th pull, wanted ptilo..

[magic moon]

grats on the goddess of dakka?

ah, dupe. Well, not quite so good

[grand dew]

yeah.. can't really complain. 10 certs

[magic moon]

and a slight -discount- on your dakka

[grand dew]

exu at p3 now

[magic moon]

one more chip for Frito Pie

[grand dew]

here we go.. first m3 , what a waste of mats

[magic moon]

may your life be full of... bees?

there we go... the chips for Ifrit will be done in 3 hours and then I can worry about other stuff

[ornate mantle]

I don’t even know what I want a majority of the time

[grand dew]

@ornate mantle time to go outside

[icy plume]

Is it bad that I like girls frontline more than Arknights?

[verbal obsidian]

no?

[grand dew]

[somber halo]

is it bad that choukai is my favorite bote?

[ornate mantle]

No

“Is it bad that I like GFL more than AL.”

Yes

And you should feel bad.

[warm ice]

I mean.

My favorite boat is Laffey.

[ornate mantle]

You don’t mean anything.

[warm ice]

Nobody shames me for that.

Azu you booli.

[ornate mantle]

You just have bad habits of starting sentences with I mean.

[verbal obsidian]

I mean

[ornate mantle]

[warm ice]

And you have a bad habit of bullying.

[ornate mantle]

You have a bad habit of being a LOLICON.

[warm ice]

I’m not a lolicon.

[ornate mantle]

You’ve channeled your inner Luna.

[warm ice]

But he’s an actual lolicon.

I don’t lewd lolis.

[ornate mantle]

So are you though.

[warm ice]

I don’t lewd lolis.

[ornate mantle]

You just lood them.

[warm ice]

[magic moon]

GFL is much less flexible as a game

you either have the good guns or you don't

[warm epoch]

But when you have the good guns

[magic moon]

then you spend months grinding them up to usable level

[solar fjord]

4 tentpoles on this banner 2 4* rolls and 2 5* rolls, one being Meteorite and the other being a dupe franka

[icy plume]

Is there a tank girl game?

[magic moon]

There is, but it wasn't very good

[icy plume]

Ah

[stuck copper]

girls and panzer

[solar fjord]

i want Siege but i kinda want to save my yellow certs, incase i don't roll Schwarz

[ornate mantle]

Where the hell does everyone get the resources to do 10 pulls goddamn.

[solar fjord]

well i had left overs from last months monthly pass
grabbed this months

built up currency from daily ticket

[ornate mantle]

Yeah I’m saving up currency for Mostima, but like goddamn.

Everytime I come back it’s always hey I did 40 rolls

Hey I did 80 rolls

And I’m like “hey... I did... 5 rolls...”

[warm ice]

Ha ha

Look at the F2P loser!

[grand dew]

@ornate mantle ez, just buy more ?

[warm ice]

[solar fjord]

i've done max 4 pulls on banners

ch'en and this banner

[ornate mantle]

I’m not even F2P

[grand dew]

i am at 229 certs.. close to that 38 pulls

but then again.. i rather save for the 5*

[ornate mantle]

I’m just saving in general.

No need to pull this banner

[grand dew]

i did for the gara at least

[solar fjord]

was doing it for the Guarantee

but decided to do some more

[oblique mantle]

Linky you get Ch’en yet?

Go fast

[solar fjord]

yeah i got Ch'en

E2d that badboy right away

[oblique mantle]

Good

Best girl

[ornate mantle]

Man Rossiya looks exactly like Skadi, KEKW

Okay, I'm feeling more motivated to go back to Rush E2ing units, KEKW

[stuck copper]

i'm stuck in chip hell

[ornate mantle]

Damn.

That does sound like Hell.

But fear not, I'll be joining you soon.

[stuck copper]

once you have them all, you have to get the glue

[ornate mantle]

Because soon... I'll need to get like 20 Guard Chips packs

[stuck copper]

which is another buncha days of nothing

[ornate mantle]

Yeaaaah, not looking forward to glue farming.

Wasn’t A3 supposed to come out today or something.

[grand dew]

[opaque sparrow]

nice skadi

[grand dew]

Same person

[ornate mantle]

Give me anni 3

[stuck copper]

monday is fine. i'm capped anyway.

[ornate mantle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jik3jozkLY4

[warm bluff]

should i do it?

the base skill is very tempting

[ornate mantle]

You mean her SP battery?

[warm bluff]

i mean the power plant drone recovery thing

but ya that too

[ornate mantle]

Idk man. That doesn't sound too tempting to me... but if it's caught your eye sure.

[warm bluff]

i'm scared the next recruit i get is dps defender, and i end up getting a dupe

[opaque sparrow]

Well, she can shot down plane

[grand dew]

Why you saving it

[warm bluff]

i'm scared of getting a dupe

[ornate mantle]

If you're scared about RNG shit you might as well not play at all.

[grand dew]

[warm bluff]

[grand dew]

You lost so much battery

[ornate mantle]

Well let me say this.

Pred is very helpful in many cases.

[grand dew]

I picked lisk on release

[ornate mantle]

More helpful than Liskarm overall I think.

[grand dew]

Still p1

[warm bluff]

sp battery looks super helpful with meteorite and bp

[ornate mantle]

It is very helpful.

No doubt about that.

[warm bluff]

although bp already recharges so fast i'm not sure if it'll be wasted

[ornate mantle]

But you have E2 Ptilopsis.

[grand dew]

Use lisk with chen and watch things die

[ornate mantle]

Oh right he has Ch'en too.

[warm bluff]

but ch'en + liskarm + ptilopsis memes

red does seem super useful though

[ornate mantle]

But you don't care about memes.

You're a meta whore.

[warm bluff]

that instant stun seems nice

[ornate mantle]

So, choose Pred.

[grand dew]

Luna be like what if I recruit pred

[warm bluff]

exactly

[ornate mantle]

How about you wait to use it after it expires.

[grand dew]

Then let the ticket expire

[ornate mantle]

That way you don't ever have to worry.

[grand dew]

[stuck copper]

[warm bluff]

ok fine i'll choose liskarm

i need a better tank

[ornate mantle]

Awesome.

Congrats.

[warm bluff]

[grand dew]

@ornate mantle great minds think alike

[ornate mantle]

KEKW

[warm bluff]

ok i did it, i chose liskarm

[stuck copper]

the ultimate ninja assassin

[ornate mantle]

Pog

She is the true ninja ass

[warm bluff]

[oblique mantle]

I have liskarm

She is solid

Her with my m3 skill three ch’en is just shenanigans

[stuck copper]

Well you see I have Liskarm

But

I also have Saria and Hoshiguma

[oblique mantle]

Shit man. I’m just leveling who I’m gonna use

[stuck copper]

Well right now

[oblique mantle]

Nearl, cuora and co

[stuck copper]

Using 6 6*

[oblique mantle]

I already know later we might use more fives and sixes anyways

[warm bluff]

so many 6*s

[stuck copper]

I just have a bunch of them

[oblique mantle]

So I have been trying to e2 my sixes first

[stuck copper]

I only didn't use them on CN because like

CN rng screwed me

[oblique mantle]

Four out of the eight I got are e2 so far

[stuck copper]

So I didn't get as many till really late

Now I have tons of 6 and 5

[oblique mantle]

Fuck China. The real challenge will be doing nian

[stuck copper]

That would depend

[oblique mantle]

Limited banner madness

[stuck copper]

They may learn from that since I am pretty sure

We won't get her till at least next CNY

[oblique mantle]

Also expect schwarz after these two banners most likely

[stuck copper]

So they may rework how that banner is done

Since that shit was horrible on release

[oblique mantle]

:

I bet

[stuck copper]

Complete shit fest for everyone involved

While I'm not banking on it

If I can pull schwarz again it'd be nice

[warm bluff]

i wonder how much money nian made them

[oblique mantle]

Tons

[stuck copper]

Well to put simply

Nian had 2 characters on rate up

Despite 1 being limited

[oblique mantle]

And many got aak

[stuck copper]

As well as a complete separate pity rate from other banners

[oblique mantle]

Before nian

[stuck copper]

And no yellow tixing because special banner

[warm bluff]

[stuck copper]

Tldr

You would whale all day

And never get her

[warm bluff]

so basically

i shouldn't spend resources on it?

since i'll never roll her

[stuck copper]

Depends

Aak is actually good

The problem

Is that they put a limited unit in a dual rate up

With a non limited

Meaning if you actually wanted Nian

If you missed her it was basically

"Better luck next year"

[oblique mantle]

Heh

Sounding like zodiac banner in gbf

[stuck copper]

Nah

[oblique mantle]

Cept you could just spark her

[stuck copper]

Zodiac banner

Is far less worse

[oblique mantle]

At the start

[stuck copper]

See with legfes

[oblique mantle]

It was bad though

[stuck copper]

There's a bunch of limiteds

Plus

That game came with limiteds

From day 1

Ark literally went months

With 0

Then suddenly got curveballed

[ornate mantle]

FeelsBad for the CN folk who couldn't get Nian.

[stuck copper]

Yeah it was a sad thing for peaps

I mean she's not god tier as a unit

Most people wanted her just because she's waifu as fuck

[warm bluff]

ya she's cute!

[ornate mantle]

her fanart is mega cute.

[warm bluff]

[stuck copper]

I hope I can get her

[ornate mantle]

I still want Mostima more.

[stuck copper]

I mean I don't even need her because

I have Saria and Hoshi

But cuteness

[ornate mantle]

I'd def use Saria and Nian over Saria and Hoshi.

[warm bluff]

i want a lot of 6*s, but idk if there's any that i need

[stuck copper]

Tbf if you use a 6* comp

[warm bluff]

maybe eyja

[ornate mantle]

So what's a comfortable level to leave my E2s at.

[stuck copper]

You'd only use Saria

And not even bother with a second tank

[ornate mantle]

Pretty much turns into Guardknights iirc.

[stuck copper]

Yup

I mean you have units like Blaze

AoE

Has def of a tank

Super high damage + range

[ornate mantle]

No wonder I feel tired doing E2's.

I'm just working on Guards.

[stuck copper]

Basically

Simple reason is

Dead unit = no need for a tank

[ornate mantle]

It's 5head logic, but it works.

[stuck copper]

Too well

[ornate mantle]

Wait what's a comfortable level to have my E2s at.

[stuck copper]

30-40

Is around the decent threshold

Without investing too much

[ornate mantle]

I see.

[stuck copper]

After that you're wasting tons of

Since the stat gain is minimal

[ornate mantle]

I was leaving them at 20, but recently started bringing them up to 40.

[stuck copper]

20 isn't too bad either

But yeah like the cost benefit heavily skews as you get higher

To the point where the last 10 levels is like 230k

[ornate mantle]

I can imagine. I hate how the LMD cost increases despite using the same amount of EXP cards too.

I have Lappland, Texas, Savage, and Specter to level up.

[stuck copper]

Well

[ornate mantle]

Didn't get a Ch'en, but I'll live with it.

[stuck copper]

Where I am right now Ran

[ornate mantle]

Naisu.

[warm bluff]

so many strong characters

[ornate mantle]

I had a pic of my stuff, but I'm running AL atm.

[stuck copper]

Yeah I have a lot of 5* / 6* on EN

[warm bluff]

i wish i had nightmare

[oblique mantle]

Got a long way to go

Take my nightmare

[stuck copper]

When you have this many characters

Yeah it is a long ass way

[ornate mantle]

Yeah.

[stuck copper]

[warm bluff]

[ornate mantle]

That's one of the things that helps me hold back on getting new characters.

[stuck copper]

Btw the reason I'm not grabbing Nearl

[ornate mantle]

It's the investment to bring them up to a comfortable level.

[stuck copper]

Is actually simple

[warm bluff]

i was counting on recruit to get nightmare, but apparently the thing is rigged

[stuck copper]

It's not that I dislike her

[warm bluff]

[stuck copper]

But

I have Saria

So needing Nearl is like

Bottom of the priority

[ornate mantle]

Well yeah.

Gettin Saria early on was o game changing for me.

[stuck copper]

I won't lie

[oblique mantle]

Never trust recruit

[stuck copper]

Saria is good but one teeny tiny problem

[oblique mantle]

Thats lesson number one in any game Luna

[stuck copper]

And it's the fact

Saria

Needs 54 Loxic

And Amiya needs 52

[oblique mantle]

Cause we have people who have had top op four times, whilst others haven’t got it once.

[warm bluff]

recruit is painful

[ornate mantle]

Huh

[warm bluff]

i wish i could get 4 top ops

[ornate mantle]

What's Top Op

[stuck copper]

It's 6* tag

[ornate mantle]

Pretty sure that wasn't coded into my game.

[stuck copper]

[ornate mantle]

KEKW

[stuck copper]

I got it

Let me show

[ornate mantle]

Top Op is so worthless to me now.

[stuck copper]

Early on

It's how I got hoshi

[ornate mantle]

Only 6* I'm missing from it is SA

[warm bluff]

you made a mistake

you should've chosen robot

[oblique mantle]

77 ops

[stuck copper]

No you also missed one

[oblique mantle]

Still missing a few sixes

[stuck copper]

That was probably

The worst tag

Cause

Top op

[ornate mantle]

I'm at 79 Ops

[stuck copper]

Robot

And Nuker

In the same thing

[ornate mantle]

Missing Angelina, SA, and Ch'en.

[warm bluff]

the game gives a higher probability of multiple good tags appearing in one thing

[ornate mantle]

Luna you know Glitched right.

[stuck copper]

It also

[warm bluff]

so there's definitely something shady going on

the pad streamer?

[ornate mantle]

Yeah.

[stuck copper]

Has a higher chance of choosing tags that don't have anything

[oblique mantle]

Shoot, get me top op

[stuck copper]

Which is the reason so many people keep pulling nightmare tags right now

[oblique mantle]

So I can finish what I have

[stuck copper]

Like legit

Watch when nightmare is out

I bet you'll never get her tags like ever

[ornate mantle]

Glitched quit PAD a long long while ago. Went to DL, but I got him into Arknights too.

[warm bluff]

does he have every character now?

[ornate mantle]

He has like 89

[warm bluff]

how long has he been playing?

[ornate mantle]

Pretty sure he played at Launch.

[warm bluff]

oh

wait how many characters are there total right now?

[ornate mantle]

I'm missing 14 and have 79

[oblique mantle]

89 or 90 maybe

[warm bluff]

he's rich so i wouldn't be surprised if he had every character

[ornate mantle]

So 93

[warm bluff]

[stuck copper]

Btw

[oblique mantle]

Not bad then. Almost got em all

[stuck copper]

I have the mats to E2 Exu too

So I'm working on her next

[warm bluff]

i only have 74

[stuck copper]

You know it's funny

How the best units to E2

Are literally every DPS unit

And to ignore tanks and healers

[warm bluff]

but e2 ptilopsis is cute

[stuck copper]

The main reason

Is because any heal that heals more than your hp

Is overhealing

Which means you have too much

While DPS

[oblique mantle]

Hmm

[ornate mantle]

Does Saria still boost the SP of a unit that's at full HP.

[stuck copper]

You can never have enough really

[oblique mantle]

So I shouldn’t e2 my nightingale or shining yet

Fair

[stuck copper]

Nothing needs them E2 right now

[oblique mantle]

I’ll do skadi next then

Kill em all

[warm bluff]

hmm who should i e2 next? lappland or meteorite?

i want both

[ornate mantle]

I'm E2ing primarily guards...

[stuck copper]

Meteorite

Would gain more from E2

Than lappland

Since they get even more range

Due to being AoE sniper

[ornate mantle]

Meteorite is amazing.

[warm bluff]

oh good i already have all her mats

other than chips and lmd and exp

[stuck copper]

Generally it's

DPS > Most shit gained > Tanks > Healers > Everything else

[ornate mantle]

I'm just E2ing units I like.

[warm bluff]

does that mean i made a mistake getting ptilopsis e2

[ornate mantle]

KEKW

[warm bluff]

[stuck copper]

Nope

[ornate mantle]

Not really.

[stuck copper]

The reason why

DPS is so highly valued

Is simply because

If the enemy is dead

No need to heal or tank

It's that simple

As for most shit gained

[oblique mantle]

Makes sense

[stuck copper]

Is things like AoE units

[ornate mantle]

Kill shit before it kills you.

Revolutionary.

[stuck copper]

Because those gain the most

[oblique mantle]

I got my casters done then

[stuck copper]

Since the E2 gives them more shit

[oblique mantle]

Eyjar and ifrit

Exu done

So just guards I guess

[ornate mantle]

I have Ifrit, Eyja, and Skyfire all done.

[oblique mantle]

Or platinum

[stuck copper]

Like AoE guards gain block 3

[oblique mantle]

Specter

[ornate mantle]

Oh I wanna do Platinum too.

[stuck copper]

And AoE snipers gain more range

[ornate mantle]

I have Exu and Meteorite.

[stuck copper]

Which means they get more time to do damage

[warm bluff]

ptilopsis and bp gain cute

[ornate mantle]

Wait I don't even need Platinum.

[stuck copper]

Also Ptilo is one of the few 5*'s that works well in 6* comps

Because of her ability to buff everyone's ability speed

So she's useful always

[oblique mantle]

Yeah her skill two

Delicious

[ornate mantle]

Ptilo is pretty broke.

[warm bluff]

i'm pretty broke too

in a bad way

[ornate mantle]

Wish I had her.

[stuck copper]

"When deployed, SP recovery speed of all allies +0.3 SP/sec (does not stack with similar effects)"

Like her E2 passive

Doesn't sound like a lot

Until you calculate it all out

And realize it's huge

It cuts off precious seconds

Which in this game is a big deal

[warm bluff]

but also she's cute

[stuck copper]

A good example

Amiya's S3

Normally is 120 secs flat

With no other attacks or anything

Ptilo cuts that down to 92.3 secs

Merely by existing

That's a huge amount

[ornate mantle]

Almost 30 seconds is pretty big.

[stuck copper]

And this applies to every unit too

Which means her benefit gets better the more you have out on the board

[ornate mantle]

Yeah.

[magic moon]

Frito now E2 ^^

[stuck copper]

So yeah

[ornate mantle]

Who

[stuck copper]

You didn't make a bad decision

[magic moon]

Ifrit

[stuck copper]

Ifrit

[ornate mantle]

Ah.

[magic moon]

I'd say "all done with E2 on 6*" but I bought Siege

[stuck copper]

I'm working on Exu now

[ornate mantle]

For 6* E2s. I'm still missing Exu, Hoshi, and Night.

[stuck copper]

Funny thing is

[ornate mantle]

Started focusing on 4s and 5s.

[stuck copper]

I got Night during off banner

Also want to see something funny?

[ornate mantle]

Sure.

I got Night while going for Ch'en too.

Was SadHappy

More sad though because this was the day right after I got Perfumer to E2.

[stuck copper]

Not current levels but

One of these things

Is not like the others

One of these things

Just doesn't belong

[ornate mantle]

Three/ Third Squad

[stuck copper]

Yes

Full 3 star meme team

[warm bluff]

0/10

not on 3rd slot

[stuck copper]

I'll put it there lol

But yeah like

What sucks

Is that my ST healer luck

Is non existent

[ornate mantle]

Isn't Gavial better.

[stuck copper]

While yes

It would mean having to invest shit into her

The issue there

[warm bluff]

use ansel

[stuck copper]

Is when I get any 5* / 6* healer

Meaning

I won't use them again anyway

[ornate mantle]

Not necessarily.

[stuck copper]

No trust me

I clear with 5 and 6 now

I spent a lifetime on CN

Using only 4

To the point I had everyone more or less E1 capped

That was 4

[magic moon]

I too have no single-target healers worked up past Hibiscus

[stuck copper]

[warm bluff]

i used 3 healers for 5-3 challenge mode

[ornate mantle]

I've been fairly lucky this entire time.

[warm bluff]

wait no i lied i used 4

[stuck copper]

I mean as you saw

[magic moon]

they just won't come out. Every other category I've at least got -someone- good

[stuck copper]

I have a lot of 5* and 6*

The issue isn't getting them

It's literally getting a good ST healer

That's the problem

[ornate mantle]

Who would be your options.

[stuck copper]

Literally 4* only

I have 0 5*

[ornate mantle]

Other than just Shining.

[stuck copper]

Warfarin

Silence

[warm bluff]

warfarin is so cute

[stuck copper]

Warfarin is good

Hella strong too

Both skills are

Same for Silence with her Drone

[warm bluff]

and her skin makes her heals do a cute heart thing

[stuck copper]

Currently on 52 yellow tix

Since you know

Next banner btw is actually legit useless to me

[warm bluff]

how do you know what the next banner is?

[stuck copper]

Since hoshi banner is the next swoosh single one

[warm bluff]

[ornate mantle]

All the Dual Rate up banners from this point on are super useless to me.

[stuck copper]

I'm referring to like the event one

[warm bluff]

[stuck copper]

I already have Hoshi / Lisk and Meteorite

[ornate mantle]

I still want Ch'en.

[stuck copper]

Ah not true Ran

[warm bluff]

wait that's the next event banner?

[ornate mantle]

So I can use her with Swire

[stuck copper]

The current dual rate wasn't

One that has existed before

[warm bluff]

crap i should've saved my 5* ticket and rolled in that instead

[stuck copper]

So they are changing up the banners

[ornate mantle]

I have every unit in the rate up.

[stuck copper]

Every 5*?

[ornate mantle]

So even the current one is useless to me.

Yes.

[warm bluff]

even sora?

[stuck copper]

[warm bluff]

[opaque sparrow]

Noob question, who is good among here?

[ornate mantle]

Wait was it Sora.

[warm bluff]

bp is good

[ornate mantle]

Thought it was Warfarin.

[stuck copper]

All of them besides Mayer

[warm bluff]

sora is super good

because she does a super cute dance

[ornate mantle]

But yeah, I have so many units.

That I'm swamped.

[stuck copper]

Mayer is a meme

[ornate mantle]

On who to develop.

[stuck copper]

I mean she's usable

But a meme

Also fun fact

Savage is actually good

[warm bluff]

doesn't matter how good the character is, if she does a cute dance she's t0

[ornate mantle]

Yes. Savage is good.

[warm bluff]

so therefore you need to develop that sora

[stuck copper]

No I mean a lot of people would tell others

That Savage is bad

Fun fact

[ornate mantle]

We've had multiple discussions here on why thats BS.

[stuck copper]

Savage beats Specter in dps

[oblique mantle]

Sora?

Sora is good

[stuck copper]

[opaque sparrow]

So any of the operator that i havent touch good?

[oblique mantle]

Dreamy already did a video on savage

[stuck copper]

There are no bad operators

Only bad doktahs

[magic moon]

Vkrp, you see those 6-stars? They're all good.

[stuck copper]

[opaque sparrow]

K

[stuck copper]

The only time operators have issues really

Are 3* later on

[ornate mantle]

I just lack the resources to mass develop again.

[stuck copper]

Because enemy defenses get so high

[warm bluff]

sora is the best

[magic moon]

Blue Poison, Meteorite, and Mayer are also notable/good

[stuck copper]

That they struggle

[opaque sparrow]

How about the 5*?

[warm bluff]

no other character does a cute dance

[stuck copper]

Due to lack of atk

[ornate mantle]

Angelina does a pole dance.

[stuck copper]

All the 5* + 6* are good

[warm bluff]

angelina does not

[stuck copper]

Amiya btw requires E2

If you want her to be half decent

[magic moon]

the only one I'd just stay away from is Savage

[stuck copper]

Don't recommend that

Savage has higher dps than Specter

[ornate mantle]

Savage is awesome.

[opaque sparrow]

Are there a 6* sniper that do AOE physical like meteorite btw?

[stuck copper]

[ornate mantle]

Her E2 art is thicc as hell.

[stuck copper]

Not yet

[ornate mantle]

Easily worth.

[stuck copper]

Also

Savage has a much higher potential DPS

Than most units in the game

[warm bluff]

with which skill?

[stuck copper]

Her first

See how it works

Atk boosts

[opaque sparrow]

But no potential unlockable rip

[stuck copper]

Have diminishing returns

But

Atk boosts + atk modifiers

Do not

Which is why her being buffed by warfarin would get more damage than a specter doing so

Also her lack of potential is irrelevant btw

Because she basically comes Pot 1 by default

2nd

[warm bluff]

what skill do people use on savage?

[stuck copper]

How many 6* do you ever pot ever 1 time?

[opaque sparrow]

Do i even need to E2 amiya now cuz k already have eyja?

[stuck copper]

And no you don't really need to with Ejya

Since you know

She's better than Amiya

S1 btw

[warm bluff]

oh i see

[ornate mantle]

Once you get a 6* version of a unit everything below is mega obsolete.

[stuck copper]

Unless

You're playing low cost maps

Then you might have issues with 6

But yes

[ornate mantle]

Well yes.

[warm bluff]

so fully maxed, savage has theoretical single target dps of 685, and multi target of 3427

[ornate mantle]

There are situations.

[warm bluff]

wait did i do my calcs wrong

[opaque sparrow]

Well, is ptilopsis be better than nightingale?

[stuck copper]

No

They are both good

But

Both in different areas

[warm bluff]

oh yes i did do my calculation wrong

[stuck copper]

Nightingale exists to be an anti mage

Ptilo exists to buff team output of skill usage

[magic moon]

Nightingale is super good when a big pack of mages come in

and then you go LOOK AT THE BIRDIE

[stuck copper]

Basically yes

[magic moon]

and they all get slaughtered without doing any damage because distraction bird

[opaque sparrow]

Welp, nightingale did help me clearing 2nd annihilation tho

[stuck copper]

I use nightingale

She's good

Tbf

[opaque sparrow]

Regardless i still want ptilopsis cuz she is cuter

[stuck copper]

Not many things

Beat Nightingale

• Shining

In the same comp

[warm bluff]

ok i fixed it, savage dps at max level + max skill

[ornate mantle]

12 E2s currently.

[stuck copper]

Well the thing about savage

Is people talk about the whole

"Pot"

And try to use it for comparison

But riddle me this

How many pots do you have on 6* units?

And how often do 6*'s get used?

[magic moon]

I have a pot on Ifrit ;_;

[stuck copper]

Most people have 1 at most

And even that's pushing it

you can only compare savage to specter, which has 127 more attack when maxed

as well as more health

Trust me

and passive regen

Specter has been compared against her

Her damage is lower

not by much

and you'd have to use her s1

Why would you even use S2

It's trash

which is a 25% boost

And the little amount is before you apply actual buffs like Warfarin

the difference in dps ain't a big deal. maybe you can squeeze out more by using a battery

But the point is

Free unit

0 pot

Beats a gacha unit

So the whole

"Don't use savage"

Is a big fallacy

outside factors shouldnt matter when comparing units

Outside factors always matter

When comparing units

no, they should not

Not everyone has the units one speaks of

not everyone uses the same team

So YES

They do

Most players that started during the first month

DOES

Have savage

Which is the point here

to someone with no warfarin, warfarin's effect is irrelevant

[ornate mantle]

What is the argument here.

[stuck copper]

I don't even get what Cal is trying to argue against at this point

the point is warfarin. learn english ffs

Even without she still beats her in damage

not everyone has warfarin

So again a moot point

yes, slightly

Doesn't matter

She still beats her

That's the point here

[ornate mantle]

Well I get Cal's argument. It's that when comparing a set of units you shouldn't be using other units affects on them for the comparison.

Like how not everyone has Warfarin as he just said.

[stuck copper]

Except here's the thing

When you use AoE guards

Especially later on

[magic moon]

It's worth saying "here's a unit that might not ordinarily be good, but has unusual-stupid-good-synergy with this other unit"

[ornate mantle]

So saying one with Warfarin does better than the other means the other is better.

[stuck copper]

You will use them with boosters later

Most AoE guards don't just get left on their own

They usually need other units to shine

i said outside factors are irrelevant because not everyone has access to those. hence if you recommend something based on those, you are misleading people.

"Misleading people"

You do realize

A game based on tactics and synergy

If you take 0 of that into account

And just based it on raw stats

You'd only be recommending 6*

And literally nothing else

Because 6* would win every single time

[ornate mantle]

It's misleading when you're just trying to make a 1 to 1 comparison. Because throwing outside factors no longer makes it a 1 to 1 is what he's trying to say.

[stuck copper]

Except

exactly

I did make a 1 to 1 comparison

And even said she's better

because those factors can potentially apply to all of them

Then I pointed out POTENTIAL synergy

so you're better off comparing things 1on1

then adding the rest later, according to your own team

[warm epoch]

How long do you think it will take for blaze to come to en?

[ornate mantle]

Who here actually thinks Savage is bad is my question.

[stuck copper]

It's not my fault you're picking only specific parts of my words

she is not bad. the criticism has always been that she's a bad 5*

Blaze

A while

Except

[warm bluff]

fixed my calculator, savage is on the left, specter is on the right

[stuck copper]

That's bullshit Cal

And that's the point

[ornate mantle]

I think everyone here except Avatar knew that.

[warm bluff]

wait no i still screwed something up

[ornate mantle]

Luna I believed in you.

[stuck copper]

For shame

You have disappointed us

[ornate mantle]

Other than Avatar, I don't remember anyone expressing discontent with developing Savage.

[stuck copper]

Which was why I said what I said

[warm bluff]

ok now it's fixed

i'm gonna have to redo all my a3 dps calcs now

[ornate mantle]

Reminder, Savage Left, Specter Right.

[stuck copper]

Wait

What were you using to compare btw?

[magic moon]

for me, it's mostly "given my other options"

[stuck copper]

But Ava

You have to give people advice for their options

Not yours lol

[warm bluff]

i made an excel spreadsheet

[stuck copper]

No I mean

What was the basis for the calculations

[warm bluff]

fully maxed

[stuck copper]

M3?

[warm bluff]

yup

[stuck copper]

Next to two walls or without?

[ornate mantle]

Don't follow the CN hive mind Ava.

[warm bluff]

oh she gets a bonus for walls?

[stuck copper]

Erm yes

"When there are 2 or more high tiles among the 4 adjacent tiles, Attack and Defense +10%"

[ornate mantle]

Savage shines most when in a corridor.

[stuck copper]

[warm bluff]

i didn't notice that

[stuck copper]

Yeah generally you want to box her in

[ornate mantle]

Yeah, those are the figures I was expecting.

[stuck copper]

But yeah generally

Specter

Is more used for

Her undying nature

[ornate mantle]

Yes. Not dying when killed is pretty awesome.

[stuck copper]

Since most units would get dunked by some bosses

Like Big bob

[magic moon]

Fair enough on both of those. I will admit that I don't really know Savage's use case

[stuck copper]

Dunking things

Consistent DPS

Specter is burst

[ornate mantle]

LOL, Ava. next time I expect you to be flying the banner of the Savage army.

[stuck copper]

Yes

[ornate mantle]

If You're not, I'll hunt you down.

[stuck copper]

Fly her banner well

[magic moon]

I have a 6* SilverAsh. You have to be a -freakin' good- guard to get in my party

[stuck copper]

But yeah I can understand why on paper pot seems like a big deal

But that only really matters generally

if you run savage, you want to run her with a battery, like ch'en, to drive up her s1

To hyper whales

[warm bluff]

as opposed to 5* or under silverashes?

[stuck copper]

Yeah Savage with a battery is dirty

[ornate mantle]

Well thankfully the game turns in Guardnights later on... So multiple guards will be useful.

[warm bluff]

[stuck copper]

whereas you use specter with someone like perfumer, to boost her health regen

[magic moon]

right, shoulda said "E2 SilverAsh" there

[stuck copper]

you can then place her somewhere and she will be fine by herself

But yeah at max

Savage costs 22

Specter is 23

0 Pot

So she basically comes with Pot 1 built in

Yeah Specter is more

the main reason specter is below savage in dps is the fact that you use her with her s2, which is mostly inactive

Like Vulcan

A solo laner

Yeah

And even with S1

Since any second not attacking

= Lower dps

With those skills

she's lower regardless, but this one hurts the most

But yeah

She more exists to work like Vulcan does

Solo everything

especially with a battery

While Savage

Is used with other units

savage with a battery should be nuts

Yeah especially at M3

Because that sweet 3 cost instead of 4