#avrora-general

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flat palm
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but i got spooked by a dude

ornate mantle
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That Blonde Ripped dude I pulled.

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Should have been Mama Raikou.

flat palm
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uh

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another gold

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dont you love using 10 tickets

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and 8 of them are 3* servants

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and all dudes

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love fgo

ornate mantle
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I love using all my resources.

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To get 3*s in AK.

warm bluff
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ak gacha is pain

flat palm
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oh yeah

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the 2d gold was a martha

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2 gold 4* neither were the only rate up passionlip

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alright one multi coming up, i want my sakura face

ornate mantle
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GL

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Passion Lips tiddies are blessed.

warm bluff
flat palm
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looks like a minroll multi lmao

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rubbing salt in the wound

ornate mantle
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Oof

flat palm
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coming from ak gacha back to this

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i remember why i want to quit now

ornate mantle
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Yeeeeeeeeeeeh.

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FGO is a shit game.

ripe mantle
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apparently there's been two cases of covid-19 here now EntyLUL

flat palm
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just gonna spend my last sq on 8 singles and stop playing lmao

ripe mantle
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costco had hundreds of people line out right at closing for stuff they already sold out of

flat palm
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guess what

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the 8 singles had 0 gold cards

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not even a 4* ce

ornate mantle
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Oof

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I wonder if I have anything.

flat palm
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the only thing im sad about giving up by quitting

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is my melt and shishou

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but you know, i'll live without them

ornate mantle
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You don't have to quit.

ripe mantle
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yo udo

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its a bad game

flat palm
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oh no i have to, if i don't the game will keep trying to tempt me

ornate mantle
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You just have to not care about doing events and shit.

flat palm
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the only way is to quit for good

ornate mantle
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Your attachment to the game is fundamentally different from mine.

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So do what you need to do ig.

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The moment I got Nitocris.

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And Sheba.

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Is the moment I stopped caring about the game.

flat palm
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it's not fun to play a game thats permanently behind jp 2 years anyway

ornate mantle
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Of course not.

verbal obsidian
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ye im so curious as to why

ornate mantle
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I'm surprised FGO is as successful as it is.

verbal obsidian
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fgo nvr had a catch up system

flat palm
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because of the fateverse

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the characters are very popular

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no one can deny how bad the game is both to farm in and gacha

verbal obsidian
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its also not very visually pleasing

flat palm
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it looks outdated ya

ripe mantle
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i never liked fate so it was easy not to play lol

verbal obsidian
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yea well

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insert obligatory no u comment

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fate didnt like u!

ripe mantle
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thats fine

verbal obsidian
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insert buckypride

ornate mantle
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I like Nitocris.

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A LOT.

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I don't like the game itself though.

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FGO has someone of the literal most boring gameplay i've ever experienced.

solar fjord
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Fgo story is best but it is a grind

ornate mantle
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I like how every example is SSR or Higher + 1 Elite unit.

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FGO story didn't even catch my attention that much.

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Because it was tied to how well I could grind.

solar fjord
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At least 2 of the best stories are in anime form

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Babylonian anime
Camelot movies

flat palm
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im interested in lostbelts

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but honestly

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i can just watch yt videos

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lol

ornate mantle
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Holy shit I just noticed this.

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"Has Skin"

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"Has Retrofit"

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That Retrofit one is important.

somber halo
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you're important

ornate mantle
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Staaaaaaaaaaaahp it you.

somber halo
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dont let anyone else twll you otherwise

ornate mantle
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Roger that chief.

ripe mantle
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Speaking of qol updates to AL

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You can now see all retrofits without having them

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So you know who specifically has one

icy plume
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@ornate mantle What filter? is it in game?

ornate mantle
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Yep.

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I actually can't test it out though since I have every Retrofit.

icy plume
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Oh shit

ornate mantle
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But its there.

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Nevermind, my dupes get filtered in too.

icy plume
ornate mantle
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So all the commons I have with retros are shown.

icy plume
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Oh yea Ishould do Aya

warm bluff
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i'm missing curacoa, curlew, newcastle, shigure, and yuugure retrofit

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i didn't realize i was so far behind

ornate mantle
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I remember when you were ahead of me.

warm bluff
icy plume
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I just finished Shigure as my last one

warm bluff
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just did some calculations, eyja has higher theoretical dps than random male character

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i need eyja

icy plume
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random male character?

warm bluff
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yeah some random 6* guy with a bird

icy plume
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oh

next onyx
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Eyja really is amazing. As soon as I got her I rushed her to E2. I would say she was a game changer for me

ornate mantle
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Eyja and SA are both two of the most incedible game changers.

warm bluff
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eyja's dps during skill is around twice that of male character

magic moon
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you have every retrofit, Ranobe? Nice

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and yeah, SA is pretty useful himself

warm bluff
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but he's a guy therefore eyja is instantly better

magic moon
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I still need to work up a single-target healer better than Hibiscus...

ornate mantle
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Wait a goddamn second.

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Are those PRINTS that I'm paying for in the shop.

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What the living fuck.

warm bluff
steep scarab
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@ornate mantle

ornate mantle
solar fjord
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toxic headpat pings rooD

steep scarab
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@solar fjord

ornate mantle
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Am I the only one who doesn't mind getting pinged.

solar fjord
steep scarab
solar fjord
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no issues here

ornate mantle
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Linky stop being taxic.

solar fjord
ornate mantle
steep scarab
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tosic ppl EssexCry

flat palm
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Poot if u ping me at 5am again im gonna come over to ph and slap u

warm bluff
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@flat palm

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@steep scarab

flat palm
warm bluff
stuck copper
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i have all the retrofits except 2

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which is yuugure and mogami which i dont even have

flat palm
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I dont mind getting pinged for questions or showing me something

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But random pings when im not here abit annoying

warm bluff
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I don't mind getting pinged since i have everything muted anyway

stuck copper
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i dont mind getting pinged because im on dnd

ornate mantle
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I don't mind getting pinged because it makes me feel special.

stuck copper
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yes that too

warm bluff
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That too

stuck copper
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@ornate mantle z35wow

ornate mantle
stuck copper
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95.8 colle% AYAYAnami

solar fjord
steep scarab
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🚶🏼‍♂️

stuck copper
warm bluff
ornate mantle
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LOL

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Never get tired of seeing this.

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Hit D1

flat palm
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Muh fast redeploy

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Fk u game

verbal obsidian
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aki wtf go to sleep

steep scarab
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@flat palm EssexCry

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go to sleep

flat palm
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I have class in an hour??

steep scarab
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aki didn't have much slep?

verbal obsidian
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aki didnt sleep

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at all

steep scarab
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just like my case

flat palm
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Why couldnt it just spread out those 3 rare tags

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Instead of all in one smh

steep scarab
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what did you pick?

solar fjord
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Or I Yolo monkaHmm

flat palm
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Specialist for manticore chance alwaya

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Always

solar fjord
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Got her

flat palm
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Pog

steep scarab
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o nice

solar fjord
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No I mean already

flat palm
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O

solar fjord
flat palm
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Whos the other one

solar fjord
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The other 50 is specter

flat palm
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Hm

solar fjord
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I have her and have really wanted meteorite

flat palm
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Go for meteorite then

steep scarab
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time to gamble

flat palm
steep scarab
flat palm
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My answer was to poot btw

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I always go for manticore in recruit

steep scarab
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i was answering linky

flat palm
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O

steep scarab
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LOL

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i said time to gamble in response to that 50/50 chance

flat palm
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Did u get meteorite rinky

solar fjord
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No

flat palm
solar fjord
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Specter dupe

flat palm
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Fuck

steep scarab
solar fjord
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peepeehands always a next time

flat palm
steep scarab
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@solar fjord

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ill do recruitment prob

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later

flat palm
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Im gonna buy monthly and grab my pity 6* off ifrit and eyja banner i think..

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And buy ifrit in shop if i dont get her

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Hopefully the pity is eyja

steep scarab
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i also did 5-10 cm aki

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it took awhile

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cuz of mephisto

flat palm
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5-10 was easy compared to some of the other shit

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I just had mephisto left at the end trapped in middle between Lappland and siege

steep scarab
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dun really have good snipers rn so i borrowed rando's BP

flat palm
steep scarab
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i'm still stuck w/ kroos/jess and plat EssexCry

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i really need bp on the next shop reset

flat palm
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Yeah

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I want ifrit and skyfire the most but eyja would be real nice of my pity

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Not so much bc i like her

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But shes so strong

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I'm rolling for schwarz too

steep scarab
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think ill e2 gummy and cuora

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im still lacking in 5*+ defenders

flat palm
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Poot super f2p

steep scarab
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like i don't have 5*+ defenders at all

flat palm
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I got my liskarm from a random defender tag lmao

steep scarab
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at least 4* ops are cheaper to e2

flat palm
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Indeed

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Dont need chip catalysts

solar fjord
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Hoping I get a siege from next banner EyjaPray

flat palm
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Siege is great

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My most used operator

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Easily

steep scarab
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my vg department is pretty much good to go

solar fjord
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If not CDCExuStare somehow get enough credit for shop exchange

flat palm
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Look how much i need casters

flat palm
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Casters and more snipers

steep scarab
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think you should be fine w/ exu plat

flat palm
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Yeah but i dont really like plat that much

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Her gameplay kinda boring

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I want schwarz or meteorite

solar fjord
steep scarab
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schwarz short ranged dunksukistare

ornate mantle
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Man.

steep scarab
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although she has a pretty decent single target dps

ornate mantle
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5-7 was super annoying because I didn't have a ranged Arts VG to take care of one of the robots.

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But I managed to finagle my way through by using... Ifrit!

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When those robots start moving through she just obliterates them.

flat palm
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Schwarz is a boss killer yeah

steep scarab
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now try w/o sniper/casters dunksukistare

flat palm
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I have firewatch btw

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Shes lvl 1

ornate mantle
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Is 5-7 CM w/o snipers/casters.

steep scarab
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ye

ornate mantle
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Yeaaaaah, maybe in a few months.

steep scarab
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you need ranged guard and supporter

ornate mantle
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Well my Pram is E2... so no worries there.

flat palm
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Istina/ange and SA tbh

ornate mantle
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I have Lapp, just need to develop her.

steep scarab
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i would like an istina

ornate mantle
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I have Istina too.

steep scarab
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i have ange so ye

flat palm
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Azu who do u think my pity 6* will be on ifrit banner

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Pls say eyja

ornate mantle
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Are you gonna roll right now.

steep scarab
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inb4 ifrit

flat palm
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No

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Tomorrow prob

ornate mantle
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uhhhhh, Pity will prob be Eyja.

steep scarab
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@flat palm how would you react if you get ifrit? dunksukistare

flat palm
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Id love it if it was ifrit, since then i could spend certs on saria or angelina

ornate mantle
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Poot you are now a bad influence.

steep scarab
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@ornate mantle just pull dunksukistare

flat palm
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Either eyja or ifrit and im golden

ornate mantle
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No.

flat palm
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Either of saria, angie, ifrit or eyja biggest want from standard banner

steep scarab
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who knows, you might get ifrit and skyfire in one go

solar fjord
ornate mantle
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ehrmagod Swire is so adorable.

steep scarab
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this rano

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liking swire dunksukistare

ornate mantle
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I love swire.

flat palm
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I like swire

ornate mantle
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Her personality is more in line with what I like than Mostima's ngl.

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And I love her design overall.

verbal obsidian
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not sure if this guy was throwing shade at cal or not

ornate mantle
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Hell i'd say I love her more than Mostima sometimes

verbal obsidian
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but just noticed, kekW

ornate mantle
flat palm
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Heres my non levelled 5*

ornate mantle
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Huh, you have so few.

flat palm
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Yeah

somber halo
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man, everyone's in the same guild too

verbal obsidian
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nah just me and cal

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do u want in frayya lol

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no one talks in it

somber halo
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oh my

flat palm
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Ive gotten a LOT of 5* dupes azu

ornate mantle
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Ah.

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All my 5*s are pretty much unique.

flat palm
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I have

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Like pot4 croissant and pot 3 platinum lmao

ornate mantle
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I got a dupe Swire though.

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I want to Pot6 my Swire.

flat palm
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Croissant spooks me every banner i roll on

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It's annoying

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My pram pot 2 too

ornate mantle
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I have a Pot4 Feater

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Pot 1 Eyja.

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Rather, Pot2

flat palm
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i hvent had a dupe 6 yet

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somehow

verbal obsidian
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i've gotten angelina twice

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that was nice

ornate mantle
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I completely forgot Shining gets an E2 skill.

flat palm
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her e2 skill is amazing

ornate mantle
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Yeah this is pretty bonkers.

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Ahhhhh, now I have to develop Nightingale too.

steep scarab
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@flat palm you could raise mayer

verbal obsidian
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two 6* e2s and three 5* e2s

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slowly building the waifus

ornate mantle
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Hm.

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Very good!

flat palm
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[8:44]The item has been determined to be none other than a night pegasus whistle!

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@ripe mantle

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lmfao

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i got one

ripe mantle
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wtf

flat palm
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free 27m for me

ripe mantle
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18m over here

flat palm
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it looks hard to sell

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but i really need to sell it

stuck copper
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patchy why dont i get rainbow research

flat palm
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you need to complain more

solar fjord
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FF7 demo out

flat palm
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yeah

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i dont have ps4 rip

grand dew
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oh? time to check this ff7 demo

solar fjord
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#アークナイツ

gentle quail
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free myrrh skin

magic moon
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woohoo, Tashkent came out

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now I can take it easy

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...and farm D3 like mad, heh

stuck copper
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still waiting for my damn tashkent

solar fjord
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Farming D3 CDCExuStare

magic moon
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"HEY Shikikan! I figured, well, I'm half of Tashkent, so if two of me show up, it oughta... you ain't happy, huh."

stuck copper
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poor kent

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but yeah im on d3 too

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got no COINSSS

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and 2k oil

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best i can do is like 35 oil per mob

magic moon
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hm... free tax preparation for people making less than $69k in adjusted income

stuck copper
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53 for boss

magic moon
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my adjusted income... 70k ;_;

stuck copper
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oof

flat palm
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Oh dear

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People on my bus babbling about Corona

magic moon
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well, I guess I'd rather have the thousand bucks of income and pay fifty to file

solar fjord
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Tax super easy to file here luckily CDCExuStare

magic moon
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my taxes are pretty basic

solar fjord
flat palm
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Cute af

magic moon
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taxes filed~

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that's a lot of originum and gems

ripe mantle
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@flat palm PortDoll

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i have learned

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today

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that it is literally too much to ask of the world

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to let me DPS

flat palm
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Whys that

magic moon
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FF14 queue times?

ripe mantle
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because healers suck

magic moon
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there was a time when tanks would pause occasionally to make sure their healer had, y'know, some mana

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nowadays it's "lol just thin air"

ripe mantle
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and i cant seem to get good healers

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so i just have to main WHM instead of split maining

magic moon
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spent the night crafting 480 healing gear

ripe mantle
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nice

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i already have the next tier

magic moon
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ugh, savage raiding

ripe mantle
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cant even clear E5S as dps

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i just want ot play my main

magic moon
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Wait, you're -pugging- savage raiding? I'd rather let a MMA champ use my sack as a speed bag than try that

ripe mantle
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yes i am

flat palm
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Synd powerful summoner

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I wish i could play with my NA friends

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I dont have that many friends on eu

ripe mantle
flat palm
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most my friends are on aether and primal

ripe mantle
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oof

flat palm
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EU people are hmm

ripe mantle
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time for some netflix daily

flat palm
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i feel like i just dont get along with alot of them

ripe mantle
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nap time

flat palm
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prae takes so long

ripe mantle
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P5 time

flat palm
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persona 5?

ripe mantle
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yea

flat palm
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game or anime

ripe mantle
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game

flat palm
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ahh

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i finished the game a while ago

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really liked it

ripe mantle
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same

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but p5r is coming

flat palm
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i won't be able to play it sadly

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im console less atm

ripe mantle
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WAIT MY PS4 TURNED OFF

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I DONT THINK I SAVED YESTERDAY AT AAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

flat palm
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i forgot but doesnt the game have autosave

ripe mantle
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why are prog healers so bad

flat palm
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hmm

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hard to say, i feel like alot of them play too scared

ripe mantle
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literally stayed ontop of our MNK

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so he had no room to dodge mechs in E5S

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why arent you further out

flat palm
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synd taxic

ripe mantle
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DAMN RIGHT I AM

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ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE

flat palm
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i used to have

ripe mantle
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I GET THE RIGHT AS A HEALER

flat palm
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capped gil in ff14

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from selling raid weeklies in midas

ripe mantle
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its hard for me to stay above 1m

flat palm
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this one time i had to play a lalafell character as pilot

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it felt so weird

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i kept losing track of where i was cus smol

ripe mantle
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au ra master race

flat palm
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i love both au ra and miqo equally

ripe mantle
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fair

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id play cat but it feels hard to be really unique

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plus eye rings

flat palm
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that's true

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most the "good" looks on cat are limited to a few things only

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so most end up looking the same

magic moon
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I enjoy crafting, honestly

ripe mantle
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dragon eye rings are cute

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its hard to give that up

flat palm
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i like crafting, i dont like gearing up and melding for crafting

ripe mantle
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i dont craft

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i gather

flat palm
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last time i did hc crafting in stormblood

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it cost me 50m to pentameld my set

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and i mean i made 50m back in 3 days

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but still

ripe mantle
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gib gil

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at 500k

magic moon
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it's not too bad unless you obsess about hitting the point where you can go 0-quality to 100% HQ

flat palm
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i have 3m atm

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30m if my whistle sells

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im probly gna undercut it a decent chunk to get rid of it

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i want to buy shinryu dnc wep and that new glam top

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and maybe decorate my house more

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Just find yourself a cute dragon wife with lots of gil synd

ripe mantle
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i already have a cute dragon wife

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but they poor af

grand dew
flat palm
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divorce them for a rich one

ripe mantle
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trade them in for a newer model huh

flat palm
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Indeed

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like exchanging a peugeot for a ferrari

ripe mantle
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i told them that

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they laughed and referenced the song rude

flat palm
ripe mantle
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i had a scale for shinryu

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then like

flat palm
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well, better luck next time

ripe mantle
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i yeeted it before patch

flat palm
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That wasn't very daijobu of you

ripe mantle
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i didnt know!

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i coulda sold it

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the shinryu wep for smn/whm sucks

flat palm
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i just want the dancer one because shiny

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and lack of better dnc glams atm

ripe mantle
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listening to Gaius' ted talk

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i just want tsukiyomi weapons

flat palm
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I think i have relics glammed on most jobs

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im weirdly enough looking forward to do new eureka

ripe mantle
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i need poetics

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new eureka better have nice looking stuff

flat palm
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i'm guilt tripping someonne in my fc atm to run potd with me 45HEH

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after i finish my solo run

ripe mantle
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you cleared tho

flat palm
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im at 160

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i need f200

ripe mantle
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oh

flat palm
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for the earring

ripe mantle
flat palm
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i still need to get through uh

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the big water snek, the behemoth and the bomb boss

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and the monstrosity that is f190-199 full of chimeras and gorillas

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honestly im not good enough at red mage to do the rest alone lmao

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would be easy with my friend since hes cleared f200 several times before, and hes a tank main

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so we could just go gunbreaker + rdm or healer

ripe mantle
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SUCH DEVISTATION

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THIS WAS NOT MY INTENTION

flat palm
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sure it wasn't

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Lahabrea btw

ripe mantle
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lahabread

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actually thats gaius tho

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pathetic

flat palm
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i want someonne to call me pathetic while looking down at me

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i mean what

ripe mantle
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pathetic

flat palm
ripe mantle
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well i sleep

flat palm
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Night

flat palm
tight flower
solar fjord
flat palm
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healers is the last thing i need but

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well, cant complain about new ops

solar fjord
flat palm
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wtf

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why knife

stuck copper
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And here I am

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Unable to get a single ST 5* or 6* healer

steep scarab
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@flat palm hugs

flat palm
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bis crafter err

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not much

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its the melds thats aids

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no

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6

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oh

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did u mean slots

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yeah 5

steep scarab
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when will aki get swimsuit melt

flat palm
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they made crafting really easy to get into

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i quit fgo poot

steep scarab
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melt got cucc'd buckyup

flat palm
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shes like way into next year anyway

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no

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just for like

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glamour weapons

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and some random stuff

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i mean i still love melt

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im just sick of fgo

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lol

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yes.. lmao

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way over

warm bluff
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I got vulcan from yesterday's senior operator tag UniCry

flat palm
#

you'll be fine

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whos vulcan again

warm bluff
#

Defender who can't be healed

stuck copper
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35 cost Defender

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flat girl defender

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Who can solo

flat palm
#

ohh

stuck copper
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The issue though

steep scarab
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she can't be healed

stuck copper
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Is that she has guaranteed tags that don't need senior op

flat palm
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lmao wtf

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im sorry inaba, thats a garbage pull

stuck copper
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Which means he wasted a potential tag unironically

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She's actually not garbage

flat palm
#

she sounds garbo

stuck copper
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She can literally solo

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Big bob

flat palm
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alot of stuff can do that tho

warm bluff
#

Lots of things can solo big bob

stuck copper
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"A tank"

warm bluff
stuck copper
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Not when it's a tank you're referring to

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Guard units yes

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Tanks no

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what?

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which tank can single-handedly take down big bob?

flat palm
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paying 35 dp to have my defender solo something doesnt uhm

stuck copper
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Vulcan can

flat palm
#

really sound too tempting

stuck copper
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She can solo lanes

flat palm
#

so id have to pass on that

stuck copper
#

I think you're underestimating what she can do significantly

warm bluff
stuck copper
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i know

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that wasn't my point though

warm bluff
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Oh no

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Her base skill is completely useless

flat palm
stuck copper
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her stats look nasty

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820 attack power tank

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Yeah and she gets a skill which buffs that further

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While being AoE

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offense mode let's her deal 1k hits at e2 40

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And healing on hit

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Oh and passive health regen while said skill is up

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i'd say she's better than cuora. takes a bit more damage in guard mode but deals a good amount as well. offensive mode just wrecks.

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Like her actual good atk stat

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Means most units that would stack up normally

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Are instantly dead in a few hits

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her attack is absurdly high for a tank

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Yup

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you can reasonably expect to run an e2 unit at level 40, which gives her more attack than melantha

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Not to mention at 3 pot with full trust she has 4328 hp

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which scales with her passive recovery

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a completely absurd tank when paired with e2 perfumer

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i want her

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She has guaranteed tags

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Survival and Defense from memory

steep scarab
#

vulcan can't be healed tho dunksukistare

stuck copper
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"but Angelina and Perfumer's passive heal to works on her."

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Incorrect my good friend

steep scarab
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oh you mean indirect healing?

stuck copper
#

Yes

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Indirect healing does in fact apply

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it does

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perfumer also heals tentacles

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which can't be healed by allies

steep scarab
stuck copper
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Healed directly

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Is what it means

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It's weird

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But that's how the game works

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healers will ignore her, but lavender will still affect her

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Because the others are classed as traits

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Not heals

steep scarab
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mm interesting

stuck copper
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See if you read sora

steep scarab
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and well considering sora's heal is a direct heal

stuck copper
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The reason she doesn't work is because like healers

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She says in her traits

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"Heals units"

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While perfumer and angelina are talents

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Not traits

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So aren't subject to the same rules as traits are

steep scarab
#

fair enough i guess

stuck copper
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Cause this is Sora's trait

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"Does not attack
Heal all allies in range
(Equal to 10% of attack power every second)"

steep scarab
#

ye

stuck copper
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"Heal friendly unit"

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Any healing unit

steep scarab
stuck copper
#

See

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There are interesting combos most don't know exist

steep scarab
stuck copper
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i'll just do a test run with estelle. if she gets healed, vulcan should get healed.

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all i know is that tentacles get healed.

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so it makes sense to me that vulcan gets healed as well.

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Yeah and I used perfumer a lot in the day

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Ironically btw

steep scarab
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also i heard

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there's a new ceylon-like healer

stuck copper
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Fun fact about them

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They're better than Ceylon by a landslide

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Despite being 4*

stuck copper
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okay. no testing. estelle requires e1. that's more than i'm willing to spend.

#

Yeah you mean Purestream poots

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She's a better Ceylon

steep scarab
#

ye

stuck copper
#

Ceylon also sucks because she has a passive that never works because no maps outside of the event she was in even have water tiles

steep scarab
#

purestream

stuck copper
#

Both of her skills are hella strong btw

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First skill heals for about 1200 hp at max rank

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To everyone in her range

stuck copper
#

But yeah

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Hella strong

warm bluff
steep scarab
#

welp

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anni3 on 9th

warm bluff
#

Oh no I'm not ready

stuck copper
#

@steep scarab You sure?

warm bluff
#

Healer amiya is so cute! LaffPat

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a3 looks scary EssexCry

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only if you're not bad like me EssexCry

steep scarab
stuck copper
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Thankies

gilded mural
#

whats better for xp farming ls 5 or 4?

warm ice
#

Poot

warm bluff
#

Blue

warm ice
#

Ew. It’s Luna.

warm bluff
steep scarab
#

@warm ice

verbal obsidian
#

whats scary is that inaba nvr stops crying

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when will the tears dry out

warm bluff
gilded mural
#

thx @steep scarab

#

kinda weird how is the math done based on the sanity cap

warm ice
#

The solution is more bully.

warm bluff
warm ice
#

If Luna doesn’t stop, Uni here will keep being zapped.

steep scarab
warm bluff
verbal obsidian
#

o didnt realize we can farm for dupes of chapayev and minsk

#

ugggh

stuck copper
#

bruh i got so many of them

verbal obsidian
#

I still casually play the events

#

I just get the ship and stop, but i'm bored on ak so more time for al

ornate mantle
#

AK does burn you out pretty fast.

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If you’re hitting the accelerator all the way through.

verbal obsidian
#

Just gonna slow down in both cause I dont necessarily wanna stop playing both, but i can tell the burn out you mentioned is coming quick

verbal obsidian
#

Probably will give it a try either today or sometime this week

#

I've nvr even tried playing ff14 so it'll be interesting

stuck copper
#

ff14 is slow af

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it doesn't get good until later

grand dew
#

new anni2 set up , shaw is not even needed and the wraith leader just dies on ch'en with stuns

ornate mantle
#

POG

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The only 6* I can actually need from Recruitment is Ash now, KEKW

oblique mantle
#

Helps Ch’en s3 kills multiple

stuck copper
#

lappland doesnt disable katanas, but her damage is still nice

ornate mantle
#

Oh really, Lappland doesn’t disable the weebs.

gilded mural
ornate mantle
#

Pog

verbal obsidian
#

back in my day

#

we'd all simultaneously spam

steep scarab
verbal obsidian
#

poot

#

inv me to your server again

steep scarab
#

:du

verbal obsidian
#

:du

steep scarab
#

@verbal obsidian sent

verbal obsidian
#

ty pootoe

warm ice
#

Kidnap me Poot.

stuck copper
#

does poot have a decent hentai collection?

lament flower
#

^

stuck copper
#

poot is hentai king

verbal obsidian
#

there is literally nothing but hentai

#

in majority of the channels

ornate mantle
#

5-10 was pretty easy.

grand dew
#

You're easy

ornate mantle
#

Staaaaaahp it you.

grand dew
#

nice one hews

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loses more than 200 subs
saying he retrun to make nsfw cuz he need money

ornate mantle
#

That’s the real way to do it

grand dew
#

his fame was built when he started with nsfw

ripe mantle
#

Idek who this person is

ornate mantle
#

Well now you do.

grand dew
#

you should since he loods your fav charas

ornate mantle
#

Did he lood Swire yet.

grand dew
#

nah mostly FGO crap nowadays

stuck copper
#

i forgot hews existed

#

now i know why

verbal obsidian
#

idk why i argue with ppl on the internet, especially with children lol

#

I gotta stop getting involved in some of these dumb chats on other servers

#

Kid goes "all gachas are scams and are made to manipulate and steal money"

#

smfh

lament flower
#

aren't most chats online dumb anyways

verbal obsidian
#

true

#

i'll let u slide aran

grand dew
#

@stuck copper yeah forgotten

warm bluff
#

Gacha games do use some pretty predatory methods to earn money

grand dew
#

their rolls/pulls are based on casino with their animation like those in lootbox

flat palm
warm bluff
verbal obsidian
#

i'm not saying what was is wrong

#

but to say they go in to intentionally prey on people is wrong lol

#

mobile games can only survive via gacha and most dont even last

ornate mantle
#

There are definitely mobile games that are very predatory in nature, don't forget.

#

But yeah, arguing on the internet is about as productive as sticking my finger into a hornets nest.

verbal obsidian
#

Right sorry let me re-phrase

#

To lump them as a whole and to say all gachas are evil was a poor argument

#

I mostly got upset because he said he quit AK saying it was preying on its users and then he went on his long rant

#

A college student complaining about a gacha stealing his little to no money kekW

#

sounds more like hes just stupid

ornate mantle
#

Probably just pissed that he didn't get Ch'en.

grand dew
#

then don't make mobile games based on gacha ? might as well not even waste resrouces knowing it'd die in less than a year

verbal obsidian
#

sometimes you come up with an idea and you think its gonna be great with said gacha system

ornate mantle
#

Who are you arguing against.

verbal obsidian
#

turns out game is poop

#

it happens

grand dew
#

@ornate mantle you

ornate mantle
#

You bastard.

#

LOL

flat palm
#

?

#

Fuck yourself

ornate mantle
#

What you did was just make your wallet go full throttle and crash.

verbal obsidian
#

how about both

flat palm
#

Ey

#

Fk you

verbal obsidian
#

LOL

flat palm
verbal obsidian
#

ye in aran's case

#

the game didnt prey on him

#

he went full need for speed

grand dew
verbal obsidian
solar fjord
stuck copper
#

it's a slippery slope

#

we have trading card games, which are arguably worse

#

because some of these have actual value, giving the whole thing real gambling potential

#

yeah, i was primarily talking about MTG

solar fjord
#

yeah i used to play magic and that got me back into pokemon cards
years ago. spent $200-$400 an expansion KokoroSlain on just buying packs

#

stopped playing magic CDCExuStare

stuck copper
#

if you happen to watch rudy, you know how much of a rabbit whole that thing is

#

and that shit has been going on for ages now

solar fjord
#

the thrill of opening a pack of cards , can be worse than pushing a button on a pokie machine

stuck copper
#

nobody did a damn thing

#

gotta get those juicy mythics

ornate mantle
#

I used to be in TCGs.

#

So fucking glad I left that shit behind me.

stuck copper
#

i quit several times. last time was around guildpact, i think.

#

ravnica was fucking dope

solar fjord
#

but then i got into the pokemon TCGO and ended up spending $100-$200 on codes each expansion KokoroSlain off ebay

ornate mantle
#

I started with Yugioh... Then I went to Magic... then I went to Vanguard... then I went to my favorite TCG called Z/X... then I went back to YGO for a short time because my friend wanted someone to play with... then my friend went Rando on YGO and I dipped the fuck out of that.

solar fjord
#

Z/X CDCExuStare i want the Azur Lane cards

ornate mantle
#

I still have my full JP Z/X deck.

solar fjord
#

could never find any single cards or packs in japan

stuck copper
#

i don't blame you

verbal obsidian
#

yeah thats a good counter argument Cal

#

might use this next time

stuck copper
#

affinity decks were cancer

grand dew
#

but you are comparing physical cards vs mobile gacha where you can't sell that shit

stuck copper
#

and in private, we didn't have any specific rules, so my asshole friend made an affinity deck that used tinker and darksteel colossus.

#

or just affinity, which was already enough

#

because it generated a billion mana in a few turns

#

the point is

#

physical card games won't be banned

#

and they're probably worse

#

so why would one expect gacha to get banned?

#

because the industry will simply take that route and say "it's basically like card games"

ornate mantle
#

You can sell gacha.

stuck copper
#

well, you can sell accounts, yeah

ornate mantle
#

Mhm.

#

I hate TCGs.

#

Never again.

stuck copper
#

the card game thing i heard a lawyer talk about. that's why i am 99% sure it won't go anywhere. they already had a case ages ago, and card games won.

ornate mantle
#

of course. Banning a gacha is a futile effort.

stuck copper
#

it's really complicated

magic moon
#

I don't think that you should -ban- gacha. At the same time, the idea that you can take a game that wouldn't have sold for $20 five years ago, and add a gambling mechanic and get people to spend $500 on it, is not something that's good for the gaming industry as a whole

stuck copper
#

because even if you say "at least card games give you something physical", the experience and the service of being able to use a certain unit can be considered a thing of value

magic moon
#

I mean, I enjoy plenty of gacha games, but I'm older and very conservative with my spend on 'em.

#

I think Azur does a fantastic job of making the -game- part of it very non-predatory

stuck copper
#

i mean, pulling from a gacha is exciting. i enjoy it.

magic moon
#

I also think that Granblue, while being more gacha-focused, has hit the point where it has a lot of padding on the sharp corners

stuck copper
#

you gotta give em that.

grand dew
#

that's what they are gong for the "exciting" part

#

its like you do slot machine

magic moon
#

Yeah, but if you justify it by "gambling is fun" you also have to deal with "and it's SUPER ILLEGAL in a lot fo places"

grand dew
#

you pull the lever and wait for the rng and see what you get

magic moon
#

And saying "well, it's not real gambling because you lose 100% of the time in that you don't get anything of actual value" is not a wonderful defense of the practice.

stuck copper
#

there isn't really anything wrong with that per se. it's the potential for exploitation that's the issue imho

#

i think you have to focus on the problematic bits

#

because gacha as a whole does not need a defense, imho

#

it's an established model

#

tcgs, toy capsules, etc

grand dew
#

it does not. which is why japan is addicted to gacha

magic moon
#

Yeah, but exactly how problematic is problematic?

stuck copper
#

it's like alcohol over here. it's the worst, but its consumption is part of our culture. it will never go away.

grand dew
#

there was a guy that spent 10s of thousands ? on GBF for a unit. which they never got

stuck copper
#

so you need to get away from strong sanctions, like bans

ornate mantle
#

I wonder if gacha is what makes the birth crisis in japan so severe.

grand dew
#

it was reported on jp news

stuck copper
#

because those will never happen

ornate mantle
#

Man, JP news is probably lax.

stuck copper
#

regulation should be a-okay tho

magic moon
#

Hyuon, oh yeah. Granblue used to be -really terrible- like that. Like, they did a rate up and it was "lol it is .002% insteaad of .001%"

solar fjord
#

gacha is just a by product of what was already there like arcade games
dance,rhythm games,claw machines CDCExuStare

ornate mantle
#

I've always been for minimal micromanagement.

grand dew
#

yeah 100% of .001 is .002!

magic moon
#

After that, they reformed it quite a bit... published rates, lots of "buy a 10-spin and just pick a free thing that you want too"

stuck copper
#

i think we could do a lot just by adjusting age limits

grand dew
#

i think the guy also got some refund or w/e

magic moon
#

like, just put a "you must be 18" on the label and then if people lie, live with it?

ornate mantle
#

I like that idea.

magic moon
#

Hyuon, well, now, if you do 300 spins, they say "okay, we give up, just take what you want"

stuck copper
#

if they do it properly, you can't really circumvent it that easily

#

like over here, where you have to provide ID

magic moon
#

and that's still kind of awful because, seriously, that's -$900-

ornate mantle
#

No matter how many bans and regulations you put... people will still make shitty decisions.

magic moon
#

but they hand out a ton of free spins too.

stuck copper
#

yeah, they will

magic moon
#

and it's not like "hey, spend some money" is wrong. I mean, I play FF14, I probably spend $250/yr on it

stuck copper
#

and even if you enforce age limits, kids would still be able to buy pokemon cards, and then EA would be like "why can't we sell ultimate team packs to kids then?"

#

it's a can of worms

#

and over here, gambling is legal, so don't expect anything from our government

magic moon
#

I just think that we shouldn't let our value proposition -totally normalize- the practice. I mean, it's not wrong to take your gacha spend and think "how many AAA titles with all the DLC could I buy with this" and act accordingly.

stuck copper
#

they don't give a fuck if you ruin yourself

ornate mantle
#

This is what happens when we take self-agency out of the equation.

magic moon
#

But for Azur... hell, I'll just occasionally buy some gems

ornate mantle
#

We get overregulation.

grand dew
#

can't blame on "us/self control"

#

they target the weak with phycological mechanics

stuck copper
#

yeah, the main argument seems to be that there are people who can't help themselves

#

but then again, should everybody else really have to hold their hands all the time?

#

i find that difficult

magic moon
#

It's not wrong to argue that people oughta be personally responsible

stuck copper
#

i mean, they won't stop selling alcohol just because you're an alcoholic

grand dew
#

i guess we are ? more and more gov are pushing ban of "lootbox" style mechanics in games

ornate mantle
#

Regardless of how many people there are with weak self-control, it's not the governments responsibility to regulate that.

stuck copper
#

that's your problem, and you need to learn to cope with it

#

i am not allowed to play mmos, so i won't. i can do that just fine.

magic moon
#

But even beyond personal responsibility, I can say "this particular crap crosses a line and I don't wanna step beyond it, even though I've got the finances and self-control to tank the hit if I wanted to"

ornate mantle
#

Well yes, but that's not a problem of the gacha aspect itself... that's a "This company has shit game model."

grand dew
#

but we also got the argument about why is this mechanic in my AAA game?

stuck copper
#

yeah

#

that shit needs to go

grand dew
#

i payed full price and i don't need card packs

stuck copper
#

i am almost fine with outlawing mtx in a game that cost money upfront lmao