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uh
another gold
dont you love using 10 tickets
and 8 of them are 3* servants
and all dudes
love fgo
oh yeah
the 2d gold was a martha
2 gold 4* neither were the only rate up passionlip
alright one multi coming up, i want my sakura face

Oof
apparently there's been two cases of covid-19 here now 
just gonna spend my last sq on 8 singles and stop playing lmao
costco had hundreds of people line out right at closing for stuff they already sold out of
the only thing im sad about giving up by quitting
is my melt and shishou
but you know, i'll live without them
You don't have to quit.
oh no i have to, if i don't the game will keep trying to tempt me
You just have to not care about doing events and shit.
the only way is to quit for good
Your attachment to the game is fundamentally different from mine.
So do what you need to do ig.
The moment I got Nitocris.
And Sheba.
Is the moment I stopped caring about the game.
it's not fun to play a game thats permanently behind jp 2 years anyway
Of course not.
ye im so curious as to why
I'm surprised FGO is as successful as it is.
fgo nvr had a catch up system
because of the fateverse
the characters are very popular
no one can deny how bad the game is both to farm in and gacha
it looks outdated ya
i never liked fate so it was easy not to play lol
thats fine
I like Nitocris.
A LOT.
I don't like the game itself though.
FGO has someone of the literal most boring gameplay i've ever experienced.
I like how every example is SSR or Higher + 1 Elite unit.
FGO story didn't even catch my attention that much.
Because it was tied to how well I could grind.
Holy shit I just noticed this.
"Has Skin"
"Has Retrofit"
That Retrofit one is important.
you're important
Staaaaaaaaaaaahp it you.
dont let anyone else twll you otherwise
Speaking of qol updates to AL
You can now see all retrofits without having them
So you know who specifically has one
@ornate mantle What filter? is it in game?
Oh shit
So all the commons I have with retros are shown.
Oh yea Ishould do Aya
i'm missing curacoa, curlew, newcastle, shigure, and yuugure retrofit

i didn't realize i was so far behind

I just finished Shigure as my last one
just did some calculations, eyja has higher theoretical dps than random male character
i need eyja
random male character?
yeah some random 6* guy with a bird
oh
Eyja really is amazing. As soon as I got her I rushed her to E2. I would say she was a game changer for me
Eyja and SA are both two of the most incedible game changers.
but he's a guy therefore eyja is instantly better
I still need to work up a single-target healer better than Hibiscus...
Wait a goddamn second.
Are those PRINTS that I'm paying for in the shop.
What the living fuck.


toxic headpat pings 
Am I the only one who doesn't mind getting pinged.


Linky stop being taxic.


tosic ppl 
Poot if u ping me at 5am again im gonna come over to ph and slap u

i have all the retrofits except 2
which is yuugure and mogami which i dont even have
I dont mind getting pinged for questions or showing me something
But random pings when im not here abit annoying
I don't mind getting pinged since i have everything muted anyway
i dont mind getting pinged because im on dnd
I don't mind getting pinged because it makes me feel special.
yes that too
@ornate mantle 

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aki wtf go to sleep
I have class in an hour??
aki didn't have much slep?
what did you pick?
Got her
Pog
o nice
O

Whos the other one
The other 50 is specter
Hm
I have her and have really wanted meteorite
Go for meteorite then
time to gamble


Did u get meteorite rinky

Specter dupe
Fuck

always a next time

Im gonna buy monthly and grab my pity 6* off ifrit and eyja banner i think..

And buy ifrit in shop if i dont get her
Hopefully the pity is eyja
5-10 was easy compared to some of the other shit
I just had mephisto left at the end trapped in middle between Lappland and siege
dun really have good snipers rn so i borrowed rando's BP

Yeah
I want ifrit and skyfire the most but eyja would be real nice of my pity
Not so much bc i like her
But shes so strong
I'm rolling for schwarz too
like i don't have 5*+ defenders at all
I got my liskarm from a random defender tag lmao
at least 4* ops are cheaper to e2
Hoping I get a siege from next banner 
my vg department is pretty much good to go
If not
somehow get enough credit for shop exchange
Look how much i need casters
think you should be fine w/ exu plat
Yeah but i dont really like plat that much
Her gameplay kinda boring
I want schwarz or meteorite
schwarz short ranged 
Man.
although she has a pretty decent single target dps
5-7 was super annoying because I didn't have a ranged Arts VG to take care of one of the robots.
But I managed to finagle my way through by using... Ifrit!
When those robots start moving through she just obliterates them.
Schwarz is a boss killer yeah
now try w/o sniper/casters 
Is 5-7 CM w/o snipers/casters.
ye
Yeaaaaah, maybe in a few months.
you need ranged guard and supporter
Well my Pram is E2... so no worries there.
Istina/ange and SA tbh
I have Lapp, just need to develop her.
i would like an istina
I have Istina too.
i have ange so ye
Are you gonna roll right now.
inb4 ifrit
uhhhhh, Pity will prob be Eyja.
@flat palm how would you react if you get ifrit? 
Id love it if it was ifrit, since then i could spend certs on saria or angelina
Poot you are now a bad influence.
@ornate mantle just pull 
Either eyja or ifrit and im golden
No.
Either of saria, angie, ifrit or eyja biggest want from standard banner

ehrmagod Swire is so adorable.
I love swire.
I like swire
Her personality is more in line with what I like than Mostima's ngl.
And I love her design overall.
Hell i'd say I love her more than Mostima sometimes
but just noticed, 

Huh, you have so few.
Yeah
man, everyone's in the same guild too
oh my
Ive gotten a LOT of 5* dupes azu
I completely forgot Shining gets an E2 skill.
her e2 skill is amazing
@flat palm you could raise mayer
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@ripe mantle
lmfao
i got one
wtf
free 27m for me
18m over here
why dont i get rainbow research
you need to complain more
Farming D3 
"HEY Shikikan! I figured, well, I'm half of Tashkent, so if two of me show up, it oughta... you ain't happy, huh."

poor kent
but yeah im on d3 too
got no COINSSS
and 2k oil

best i can do is like 35 oil per mob
hm... free tax preparation for people making less than $69k in adjusted income
53 for boss
my adjusted income... 70k ;_;
oof
well, I guess I'd rather have the thousand bucks of income and pay fifty to file
Tax super easy to file here luckily 
my taxes are pretty basic
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Cute af
@flat palm 
i have learned
today
that it is literally too much to ask of the world
to let me DPS
Whys that
FF14 queue times?
Dps queues are indeed terrible
What the
because healers suck
there was a time when tanks would pause occasionally to make sure their healer had, y'know, some mana
nowadays it's "lol just thin air"
and i cant seem to get good healers
so i just have to main WHM instead of split maining

spent the night crafting 480 healing gear
ugh, savage raiding
Wait, you're -pugging- savage raiding? I'd rather let a MMA champ use my sack as a speed bag than try that
yes i am
Synd powerful summoner
I wish i could play with my NA friends
I dont have that many friends on eu

most my friends are on aether and primal
oof
EU people are hmm
time for some netflix daily
i feel like i just dont get along with alot of them
P5 time
persona 5?
yea
game or anime
game
WAIT MY PS4 TURNED OFF
I DONT THINK I SAVED YESTERDAY AT AAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
why are prog healers so bad
literally stayed ontop of our MNK
so he had no room to dodge mechs in E5S
why arent you further out

I GET THE RIGHT AS A HEALER
its hard for me to stay above 1m
this one time i had to play a lalafell character as pilot
it felt so weird
i kept losing track of where i was cus smol
au ra master race
i love both au ra and miqo equally
that's true
most the "good" looks on cat are limited to a few things only
so most end up looking the same
I enjoy crafting, honestly
last time i did hc crafting in stormblood
it cost me 50m to pentameld my set

and i mean i made 50m back in 3 days
but still
it's not too bad unless you obsess about hitting the point where you can go 0-quality to 100% HQ
i have 3m atm
30m if my whistle sells

im probly gna undercut it a decent chunk to get rid of it
i want to buy shinryu dnc wep and that new glam top
and maybe decorate my house more
Just find yourself a cute dragon wife with lots of gil synd


well, better luck next time
i yeeted it before patch
That wasn't very daijobu of you
I think i have relics glammed on most jobs
im weirdly enough looking forward to do new eureka
i'm guilt tripping someonne in my fc atm to run potd with me 
after i finish my solo run
you cleared tho
oh
for the earring

i still need to get through uh
the big water snek, the behemoth and the bomb boss
and the monstrosity that is f190-199 full of chimeras and gorillas
honestly im not good enough at red mage to do the rest alone lmao
would be easy with my friend since hes cleared f200 several times before, and hes a tank main
so we could just go gunbreaker + rdm or healer

well i sleep
@ripe mantle i undercut it hehe



@flat palm 
bis crafter err
not much
its the melds thats aids
no
6
oh
did u mean slots
yeah 5
when will aki get swimsuit 
got cucc'd 
shes like way into next year anyway
no
just for like
glamour weapons
and some random stuff
i mean i still love melt
im just sick of fgo
lol
yes.. lmao
way over
I got vulcan from yesterday's senior operator tag 
Defender who can't be healed
ohh
The issue though
she can't be healed
Is that she has guaranteed tags that don't need senior op
she sounds garbo
Lots of things can solo big bob
"A tank"

Not when it's a tank you're referring to
Guard units yes
Tanks no
what?
which tank can single-handedly take down big bob?
paying 35 dp to have my defender solo something doesnt uhm
Vulcan can
really sound too tempting
She can solo lanes
so id have to pass on that
I think you're underestimating what she can do significantly


her stats look nasty
820 attack power tank
Yeah and she gets a skill which buffs that further
While being AoE
offense mode let's her deal 1k hits at e2 40
And healing on hit
Oh and passive health regen while said skill is up
i'd say she's better than cuora. takes a bit more damage in guard mode but deals a good amount as well. offensive mode just wrecks.
Like her actual good atk stat
Means most units that would stack up normally
Are instantly dead in a few hits
her attack is absurdly high for a tank
Yup
you can reasonably expect to run an e2 unit at level 40, which gives her more attack than melantha
Not to mention at 3 pot with full trust she has 4328 hp
which scales with her passive recovery
a completely absurd tank when paired with e2 perfumer
i want her
She has guaranteed tags
Survival and Defense from memory
vulcan can't be healed tho 
"but Angelina and Perfumer's passive heal to works on her."
Incorrect my good friend
oh you mean indirect healing?
Yes
Indirect healing does in fact apply
it does
perfumer also heals tentacles
which can't be healed by allies
but it says
Healed directly
Is what it means
It's weird
But that's how the game works
healers will ignore her, but lavender will still affect her
Because the others are classed as traits
Not heals
mm interesting
See if you read sora
and well considering sora's heal is a direct heal
The reason she doesn't work is because like healers
She says in her traits
"Heals units"
While perfumer and angelina are talents
Not traits
So aren't subject to the same rules as traits are
fair enough i guess
Cause this is Sora's trait
"Does not attack
Heal all allies in range
(Equal to 10% of attack power every second)"
ye



i'll just do a test run with estelle. if she gets healed, vulcan should get healed.
all i know is that tentacles get healed.
so it makes sense to me that vulcan gets healed as well.
Yeah and I used perfumer a lot in the day
Ironically btw

okay. no testing. estelle requires e1. that's more than i'm willing to spend.
Yeah you mean Purestream poots
She's a better Ceylon
ye
Ceylon also sucks because she has a passive that never works because no maps outside of the event she was in even have water tiles
purestream
Both of her skills are hella strong btw
First skill heals for about 1200 hp at max rank
To everyone in her range

Oh no I'm not ready
@steep scarab You sure?
https://www.arknights.jp/news/120 @stuck copper
Thankies
whats better for xp farming ls 5 or 4?


The solution is more bully.



bruh i got so many of them
I still casually play the events
I just get the ship and stop, but i'm bored on ak so more time for al
AK does burn you out pretty fast.
If you’re hitting the accelerator all the way through.
Just gonna slow down in both cause I dont necessarily wanna stop playing both, but i can tell the burn out you mentioned is coming quick
Probably will give it a try either today or sometime this week
I've nvr even tried playing ff14 so it'll be interesting
new anni2 set up , shaw is not even needed and the wraith leader just dies on ch'en with stuns
Helps Ch’en s3 kills multiple
lappland doesnt disable katanas, but her damage is still nice
Oh really, Lappland doesn’t disable the weebs.
Pog
back in my day
we'd all simultaneously spam
"this isnt the #trophy-room channel"

This isn’t #trophy-room channel but it’s exempted now 
:du
:du
@verbal obsidian sent
does poot have a decent hentai collection?
^
poot is hentai king
5-10 was pretty easy.
You're easy
nice one hews

loses more than 200 subs
saying he retrun to make nsfw cuz he need money

That’s the real way to do it
his fame was built when he started with nsfw
you should since he loods your fav charas
Did he lood Swire yet.
idk why i argue with ppl on the internet, especially with children lol
I gotta stop getting involved in some of these dumb chats on other servers
Kid goes "all gachas are scams and are made to manipulate and steal money"
smfh
aren't most chats online dumb anyways
their rolls/pulls are based on casino with their animation like those in lootbox

i'm not saying what was is wrong
but to say they go in to intentionally prey on people is wrong lol
mobile games can only survive via gacha and most dont even last
There are definitely mobile games that are very predatory in nature, don't forget.
But yeah, arguing on the internet is about as productive as sticking my finger into a hornets nest.
Right sorry let me re-phrase
To lump them as a whole and to say all gachas are evil was a poor argument
I mostly got upset because he said he quit AK saying it was preying on its users and then he went on his long rant
A college student complaining about a gacha stealing his little to no money 
sounds more like hes just stupid
Probably just pissed that he didn't get Ch'en.
then don't make mobile games based on gacha ? might as well not even waste resrouces knowing it'd die in less than a year
sometimes you come up with an idea and you think its gonna be great with said gacha system
Who are you arguing against.
What you did was just make your wallet go full throttle and crash.
how about both
LOL




it's a slippery slope
we have trading card games, which are arguably worse
because some of these have actual value, giving the whole thing real gambling potential
yeah, i was primarily talking about MTG
yeah i used to play magic and that got me back into pokemon cards
years ago. spent $200-$400 an expansion
on just buying packs
stopped playing magic 
if you happen to watch rudy, you know how much of a rabbit whole that thing is
and that shit has been going on for ages now
the thrill of opening a pack of cards , can be worse than pushing a button on a pokie machine
i quit several times. last time was around guildpact, i think.
ravnica was fucking dope
but then i got into the pokemon TCGO and ended up spending $100-$200 on codes each expansion
off ebay
I started with Yugioh... Then I went to Magic... then I went to Vanguard... then I went to my favorite TCG called Z/X... then I went back to YGO for a short time because my friend wanted someone to play with... then my friend went Rando on YGO and I dipped the fuck out of that.
Z/X
i want the Azur Lane cards
I still have my full JP Z/X deck.
could never find any single cards or packs in japan
i don't blame you
affinity decks were cancer
but you are comparing physical cards vs mobile gacha where you can't sell that shit
and in private, we didn't have any specific rules, so my asshole friend made an affinity deck that used tinker and darksteel colossus.
or just affinity, which was already enough
because it generated a billion mana in a few turns
the point is
physical card games won't be banned
and they're probably worse
so why would one expect gacha to get banned?
because the industry will simply take that route and say "it's basically like card games"
You can sell gacha.
well, you can sell accounts, yeah
the card game thing i heard a lawyer talk about. that's why i am 99% sure it won't go anywhere. they already had a case ages ago, and card games won.
of course. Banning a gacha is a futile effort.
it's really complicated
I don't think that you should -ban- gacha. At the same time, the idea that you can take a game that wouldn't have sold for $20 five years ago, and add a gambling mechanic and get people to spend $500 on it, is not something that's good for the gaming industry as a whole
because even if you say "at least card games give you something physical", the experience and the service of being able to use a certain unit can be considered a thing of value
I mean, I enjoy plenty of gacha games, but I'm older and very conservative with my spend on 'em.
I think Azur does a fantastic job of making the -game- part of it very non-predatory
i mean, pulling from a gacha is exciting. i enjoy it.
I also think that Granblue, while being more gacha-focused, has hit the point where it has a lot of padding on the sharp corners
you gotta give em that.
Yeah, but if you justify it by "gambling is fun" you also have to deal with "and it's SUPER ILLEGAL in a lot fo places"
you pull the lever and wait for the rng and see what you get
And saying "well, it's not real gambling because you lose 100% of the time in that you don't get anything of actual value" is not a wonderful defense of the practice.
there isn't really anything wrong with that per se. it's the potential for exploitation that's the issue imho
i think you have to focus on the problematic bits
because gacha as a whole does not need a defense, imho
it's an established model
tcgs, toy capsules, etc
it does not. which is why japan is addicted to gacha
Yeah, but exactly how problematic is problematic?
it's like alcohol over here. it's the worst, but its consumption is part of our culture. it will never go away.
there was a guy that spent 10s of thousands ? on GBF for a unit. which they never got
so you need to get away from strong sanctions, like bans
I wonder if gacha is what makes the birth crisis in japan so severe.
it was reported on jp news
because those will never happen
Man, JP news is probably lax.
regulation should be a-okay tho
Hyuon, oh yeah. Granblue used to be -really terrible- like that. Like, they did a rate up and it was "lol it is .002% insteaad of .001%"
gacha is just a by product of what was already there like arcade games
dance,rhythm games,claw machines 
I've always been for minimal micromanagement.
After that, they reformed it quite a bit... published rates, lots of "buy a 10-spin and just pick a free thing that you want too"
i think we could do a lot just by adjusting age limits
i think the guy also got some refund or w/e
like, just put a "you must be 18" on the label and then if people lie, live with it?
I like that idea.
Hyuon, well, now, if you do 300 spins, they say "okay, we give up, just take what you want"
if they do it properly, you can't really circumvent it that easily
like over here, where you have to provide ID
and that's still kind of awful because, seriously, that's -$900-
No matter how many bans and regulations you put... people will still make shitty decisions.
but they hand out a ton of free spins too.
yeah, they will
and it's not like "hey, spend some money" is wrong. I mean, I play FF14, I probably spend $250/yr on it
and even if you enforce age limits, kids would still be able to buy pokemon cards, and then EA would be like "why can't we sell ultimate team packs to kids then?"
it's a can of worms
and over here, gambling is legal, so don't expect anything from our government
I just think that we shouldn't let our value proposition -totally normalize- the practice. I mean, it's not wrong to take your gacha spend and think "how many AAA titles with all the DLC could I buy with this" and act accordingly.
they don't give a fuck if you ruin yourself
This is what happens when we take self-agency out of the equation.
But for Azur... hell, I'll just occasionally buy some gems
We get overregulation.
yeah, the main argument seems to be that there are people who can't help themselves
but then again, should everybody else really have to hold their hands all the time?
i find that difficult
It's not wrong to argue that people oughta be personally responsible
i mean, they won't stop selling alcohol just because you're an alcoholic
i guess we are ? more and more gov are pushing ban of "lootbox" style mechanics in games
Regardless of how many people there are with weak self-control, it's not the governments responsibility to regulate that.
that's your problem, and you need to learn to cope with it
i am not allowed to play mmos, so i won't. i can do that just fine.
But even beyond personal responsibility, I can say "this particular crap crosses a line and I don't wanna step beyond it, even though I've got the finances and self-control to tank the hit if I wanted to"
Well yes, but that's not a problem of the gacha aspect itself... that's a "This company has shit game model."
but we also got the argument about why is this mechanic in my AAA game?
i am almost fine with outlawing mtx in a game that cost money upfront lmao




































