avrora-general

[wintry sonnet]

the problem with "dont just gamble" is that it's a very shallow way of looking at it

[ornate mantle]

I think that’s the point I wanted to make in the end.

[stuck copper]

limited builds heavily encourage it though

[cosmic pier]

[wintry sonnet]

there's a reason why you have all this flashiness and all the spin of the cube and the big intro screen popping out

[ornate mantle]

Why is that shallow? I only really use gems on guaranteed content.

As I’ve said before, I only spend on skins and Dock.

[cosmic pier]

until you dont

[ornate mantle]

Which are guaranteed components.

[stuck copper]

how do you even have 600k coins? does that person never play?

[wintry sonnet]

which is fair, but it doesn't in any way make gacha not gambling

[ornate mantle]

I’m not saying Gacha isn’t gambling.

[wintry sonnet]

just because you're not susceptible to it, doesn't mean it's not there

[ornate mantle]

I’m saying you don’t have to use the premium currency for the Gacha aspect.

That’s maybe where the confusion laid, lol.

[wintry sonnet]

how is this any different than "it's optional" argument used for lootboxes

[stuck copper]

league's crafting is pretty much gambling tho

[dense wing]

that ss is funny bc a lot of people argue that coins are too little

[stuck copper]

the skin pool is so diluted at this point

[ornate mantle]

With loot boxes, that’s the only resource premium currency has right?

[warm epoch]

The game just trolled me

[ornate mantle]

Let’s say a game like PAD.

[warm epoch]

I thought I got formi, but I got warspite

[stuck copper]

rip

[ornate mantle]

I can spend on the Gacha.

[warm epoch]

[ornate mantle]

Or I can buy space with the stones (a guaranteed aspect).

[stuck copper]

Formidable is 4:30

[wintry sonnet]

can you buy space with the resources that the game itself gives you?

like for example free premium currency it hands you for various things

[warm epoch]

I didn't see the time

I had a surplus, so I did quick build

[stuck copper]

SR spook

[ornate mantle]

In PAD the premium currency is stones. They give out free stones. And you can use them for guaranteed things like dock space... but the premium currency itself is also used for the Gacha.

[warm bluff]

[warm epoch]

Is it worth to buy the 980 gem package?

[dense wing]

on tera u can loot box or guaranteed box guaranteed is much more pricey while loot box is $1.50

[wintry sonnet]

see, I dont have a problem with that way of doing things

[stuck copper]

two rings for 980 is cheaper than two rings for 1200

[wintry sonnet]

pay for the chance or pay straight up to get something

[warm epoch]

I mean for cubes

Woops

[warm bluff]

on tera you can buy loot boxes from people and resell for huge markups on broker

[wintry sonnet]

as long as there's a ceiling to spending

[warm epoch]

I WANT FORMI

[dense wing]

lolol yes

[wintry sonnet]

with gachas you usually dont have the ceiling

[ornate mantle]

That’s what I think Gems are... you can pay for cubes, or you can pay for dock. Same concept.

[dense wing]

I often buy loot boxes for the heck of it bc they drop good stuff even if u lose

but the thing is loot box is dyeable wear

the guaranteed is usually a nasty color

[ornate mantle]

I never liked the Loot Box system because it usually encompasses the cosmetics too.

[wintry sonnet]

Azu, could it be you're just viewing it that way because you dont directly buy cubes for money and instead you're using money to buy gems which then you could potentially buy cubes with

[stuck copper]

shit brown, cream shit brown, dark poop brown, all nice browns.

[wintry sonnet]

since you know, that is a degree of separation

[stuck copper]

next to vomit green, mold green, and rot green

[ornate mantle]

Just read my comment prior, it’s about using the premium currency for a Gacha aspect or a non-Gacha aspect... one would rather use it for something guaranteed than not.

You can go either route.

[stuck copper]

i don't think it matters. just having that mechanic makes it iffy.

some are just more blatant about it than others.

[ornate mantle]

Having a Gacha aspect? Well going that route is effectively a gamble no matter what.

[stuck copper]

correct

[ornate mantle]

But if buy I Skin there is no gamble to it at all.

[wintry sonnet]

honestly my biggest issue with AL's gacha is the no ceiling aspect

[ornate mantle]

At least in AL.

[stuck copper]

also correct

[wintry sonnet]

you look at something like GBF, you have the spark system

[ornate mantle]

Yeah that’s I’m saying.

LOL.

[wintry sonnet]

300 rolls and if you dont get what you wanted by then, you just can pick it

it's still fuckton of money if you were to buy all 300 rolls, but at least it's a spending limit

and you can still save up the premium currency yourself to do it

AL doesn't have any failsafe like that, you can go anywhere from 1 roll to unlimited

[stuck copper]

besides, if people need more than that to get what they want, you should consider whether or not your business is a borderline scam

[ornate mantle]

Let’s say I buy the trading license, all 500 of the gems can just go to skins. No gambling at all to that.

[wintry sonnet]

well 500 gems wont get you the skins anyway

also there is lucky bag

[warm bluff]

i like gambling, which is why i try to avoid it

[ornate mantle]

Well it won’t on its own sure, but that’s not the point, haha. It’s just that it can be a part of that non-Gacha purchase.

[stuck copper]

yeah. that day one splurge is real.

[wintry sonnet]

and let's be honest, the gacha using cubes that you can buy isn't designed this way just as an option, it never is an option

call me cynical if you must

but I've played enough gachas and lootbox havens to know that it's never an option

it's a constant battle over your psyche

in fear of missing out on stuff

[warm bluff]

[wintry sonnet]

that gacha so far managed to get away from the whole lootbox controversy is mainly due to gacha games being for the most part f2p

[ornate mantle]

Lootboxes and AL are run by that same Gacha aspect, but AL does one great thing in that cosmetics aren’t tied to the Gacha aspect directly. They are sort of tied indirectly now that I think about it though.

[wintry sonnet]

sure, but you still need a phone to put a phonestrap on

[ornate mantle]

That’s my point.

[wintry sonnet]

and the phone you can't just outright buy

[ornate mantle]

To that indirect connection.

[wintry sonnet]

which honestly I'd rather they had that option

[ornate mantle]

It’d be nice. Yes.

[wintry sonnet]

either buy cubes to do the gacha, or just pay to get the specific ship you want

[stuck copper]

they'd be expensive

though still cheaper than whaling hard

[wintry sonnet]

not as expensive as not having any spending requirement to guarantee it

exactly

[ornate mantle]

Could also be less expensive considering there’s a probability of you just getting the girl.

[stuck copper]

if they were to sell new ships, i'd expect them to price them at around 25 bucks per SR

[ornate mantle]

Yeah that sounds sort of nice. Not having to bust 500 cubes on Bisko.

[warm bluff]

[ornate mantle]

[wintry sonnet]

25$ would be kinda high but then against 300 gems for 10 cubes is what, 5$

so I guess as long as the price of cubes didnt move, then yea it'd end up being something like that

[stuck copper]

it's high, but it's way cheaper than what our top whales spend on their ships.

[ornate mantle]

But at the same time the Gacha aspect does save money potentially too.

[wintry sonnet]

like I said, if you have both the gacha element and the guaranteed pay to get element, no issues

cause that's ACTUAL choice

[stuck copper]

and it's usually just one ship that won't drop

[ornate mantle]

Yeah.

[stuck copper]

i'm just saying they are unlikely to make it cheap

[ornate mantle]

I think AL has spoiled me in a lot of ways.

Since the game is very generous.

[warm bluff]

AL made me quit pad

[ornate mantle]

Generous in both rates and resource allocation.

PAD is just ass.

I have E7 downloaded again.

[warm bluff]

sounds expensive

[ornate mantle]

This is the 5th time I installed this game.

[stuck copper]

aran is an omega whale. nothing is expensive for him.

[wintry sonnet]

I'm always vary of generosity aspects

[warm bluff]

[cosmic pier]

"al made me quit e7, gfl, kings raid but made me start honkai"

I thought that was me

[wintry sonnet]

cause you always end up going to that lingering point of "It's a company, it wants to make money"

[stuck copper]

lol

[wintry sonnet]

so why would it be generous with certain things if it effectively cuts down on potential revenue

[stuck copper]

imagine spending money out of pity

[ornate mantle]

Well that’s why the cosmetics are so awesome.

[stuck copper]

what am i? a charity?

[ornate mantle]

That Deutschland.

Has all my money.

[wintry sonnet]

My general rule with spending on any f2p is that I only spend money if and only IF

I want to

but I also recognise I'm suspectible to the FOMO, which is why I ended up quitting FGO and FEH

[stuck copper]

sounds about right

[ornate mantle]

My general rule is to only spend on guaranteed things.

[stuck copper]

there are times when i don't refresh my license, simply because i feel i have enough

[ornate mantle]

So, skins, expansions, etc

[wintry sonnet]

And because AL started off so generous

with me having all the limited ships

[stuck copper]

[wintry sonnet]

ending up not having 1 of them would be aggravating

[cosmic pier]

my general rule is to spend the money my sugar dads give me every now and then

[ornate mantle]

I’m gonna approach events with a “only do dailies” style.

And see how I do.

[warm ice]

S-sugar dads?

[ornate mantle]

At least for 1-2 events.

[wintry sonnet]

and let's be honest, the generosity part kinda dimmed down overtime

[cosmic pier]

pepega of the day

[warm bluff]

[wintry sonnet]

back when AL started, you'd have plenty of time to build up your cube stockpile

and you could bypass alot of the cube spending with the SRs with medal exchange

[stuck copper]

it's more that they've been more aggressive with new content

[ornate mantle]

Well yeah, no events, no nothing...

[wintry sonnet]

but you dont really have much of that in this regard

medal exchange is dead, no updates to the roster

[stuck copper]

events come faster and last shorter

[wintry sonnet]

builds get constantly more and more ships fighting over the %

[stuck copper]

early events lasted for 3 weeks, iirc

[wintry sonnet]

and then you get constantly pummeled week after week with a limited rate up of some kind

I remember having 600 cubes in this game at one point

[stuck copper]

plenty of time to get everything

[wintry sonnet]

I haven't gone past 200 in 4-5 months now

heck I keep bottoming out every 2 weeks

[ornate mantle]

The game still feels generous to me... just that as the game climate changes the generosity isn’t as easily noticed?

[warm ice]

^

[wintry sonnet]

indeed, the generosity was good for the time

and obviously it's still on the same level

but because everything around it changed, it no longer feels as adequate

[stuck copper]

we're getting the same. they're just draining us harder.

[warm ice]

AL is still one of the more generous Gacha.

[wintry sonnet]

it's like how let's say you work a job for 20 years and you always get the same salary

and it was a great salry at the time

[warm ice]

I play FEH and FGO and those games run me fucking dry all the time.

[wintry sonnet]

but everything around you for 20 years kept getting more and more expensive

and now it's just no longer good enough

[cosmic pier]

are you describing Iran

[ornate mantle]

Yeah.

[cosmic pier]

[warm ice]

FGO especially.

But FEH is almost on the same level.

[stuck copper]

@wintry sonnet that's pretty much how it is for a lot of people in real life

[wintry sonnet]

FEH has gotten worse than it started off

[ornate mantle]

Are there any guarantee aspects of FGO and FEH that are accessible through premium currency?

[cosmic pier]

fire emblem hentai

[wintry sonnet]

and funnily enough, back when FEH started the IV problem didnt even feel as much as a problem

[cosmic pier]

[stuck copper]

companies are like "everything gets more expensive. we need to charge more and pay less." meanwhile, employees and consumers be like "and what about us?"

[wintry sonnet]

until they started pumping out limited 5* units one after another

bunch of em with limited skills

so not only are you missing out on the characters ,you're missing out on ways to strenghten the characters you like

[warm ice]

FGO’s saving grace is that Three Star characters are still viable.

Some are more viable than even Five Stars.

[ornate mantle]

Does FGO have like a servant limit?

[warm ice]

Meanwhile with FEH you’re required to have five stars.

[wintry sonnet]

like a dock space?

[ornate mantle]

Yeah

[wintry sonnet]

yea it does iirc

they had to increase it at one point too for everyone

but you can still buy more space iirc

[ornate mantle]

Using premium currency right.

[wintry sonnet]

I mean FEH has viable units too that start off as 1-3*

but the power creep has become real at one point

esp with some units having uninheritable skills

[ornate mantle]

I dumped FEH way back when.

The gameplay was too boring for me to feel the Gacha was worth stockpiling orbs.

[warm bluff]

pad powercreep had meta breaker characters every other week

[stuck copper]

played it for a week or two

the gacha felt like the dumbest shit ever

[ornate mantle]

PAD is such a fucking ass game that they made Collab characters OP as shit.

[stuck copper]

with the fucking colors and stuff

[wintry sonnet]

also, to be fair, I dont really see the viability of more common units to be a good enough argument

but that's because I view almost all these gacha games as a collectathon of sorts

I mean there's 200+ characters, so why would you just stick to like 10-15 of them

[ornate mantle]

Well they are all basically called “Hero Collectors”.

[stuck copper]

from a collector's perspective, there is no difference between different rarity characters. some are just way shittier to get than others

power level is a different matter entirely

[ornate mantle]

For the most part yeah. They’ll get em all anyways so why does it matter.

[wintry sonnet]

wel that's not always the case

[ornate mantle]

Outside of meta whoring.

[stuck copper]

i have pulled a lot of ships i had no interest in, and i will never use them.

they're just filler

[wintry sonnet]

heck you can't even get everything in AL for that matter

[ornate mantle]

Well that’s the mentality it’s approached with... realistically plausible is another story.

[wintry sonnet]

lest we forget the collab ships as of so far are effectively deemed never to return

[ornate mantle]

Not saying it’ll literally happen, lmao. Just that the collector doesn’t differentiate it because it’s presumed they’ll go through any measure to have it all.

[stuck copper]

on top of nep having been the worst gacha in the history of AL

holy mother was it bad

[ornate mantle]

I hate and love at the same time.

[warm ice]

200

Cubes

No

Ai

[wintry sonnet]

I liked it being separated to two separate rate ups

[stuck copper]

i have no idea how i made it. i think i had to buy cubes at the end.

[ornate mantle]

Honestly I would have liked it to be all at once... mainly because the Collab came when I was on winter break and I wanted them all before I needed to go back to Uni.

[stuck copper]

around a thousand gems, with the gift card i had

[wintry sonnet]

I actually lucked out hard with it cause I got the first part of rate ups in like 40 cubes

Noire ended up balancing it out on 2nd rate up however, but still fairly good

[stuck copper]

because of fucking green heart

[wintry sonnet]

but it was 2 weeks or sth of me effectively not having to bother with building anything

which was awesome

[ornate mantle]

Green Heart was my dark horse too. She took a while to come... actually got her on the first day of rate up shift.

[wintry sonnet]

remember that one streamer who tried to get everyone on day 1 including the 2nd part rate ups

and spent like close to a 1000$

cause he couldn't get green heart

[warm bluff]

[stuck copper]

it was absurd. i hope it never happens again.

[wintry sonnet]

which wasn't bound for rate up till next part

[ornate mantle]

Yeah, that’s insane.

I remember Xlices stream where he spent about 8-9 packs going for all the subs.

I didn’t watch it live, but got word of it.

[wintry sonnet]

well at least with Xlice's case you could argue it wasn't ever going to get better

since they're perma special builds with 0 rate up

unless you're in JP where wishing well wasn't ass

tho back then we didnt even know it was coming up

[ornate mantle]

I’m just looking at that money spent, and am like... “goddamn.”

[wintry sonnet]

yeah, if I had money like that I'd have a field day in skin shop

[ornate mantle]

I probably wouldn’t be any different. I just don’t like owning skins I don’t want.

[stuck copper]

i'd go on a trip with my family

[cosmic pier]

buy baache skin

[stuck copper]

🖕

[cosmic pier]

[wintry sonnet]

already have to conjure up money just to get shoukaku's skin

[ornate mantle]

I’m not sure what I’d do with that kinda money.

[wintry sonnet]

[warm bluff]

that's a lot of money

[ornate mantle]

Maybe find a solid apartment somewhere.

Or buy a Moped.

Or pay off my car?

Or my student loans?

[wintry sonnet]

you could buy a decent car for 1k$ here

[ornate mantle]

In Cali 1k will get you a shitmobile.

[stuck copper]

you can get a decent mid-range pc with that

[ornate mantle]

Cheaper cars usually range in the 18ks

[stuck copper]

or maybe a set of monitors

[ornate mantle]

I’d like a second monitor setup.

[wintry sonnet]

my pc cost me about 1k$

[stuck copper]

1k is my usual budget

[wintry sonnet]

and even then it's got like a 1060 6G

[ornate mantle]

My laptop cost me about $700

[warm bluff]

[stuck copper]

but i only buy a new one every 6-8 years

[wintry sonnet]

same, 8 years more or less

[ornate mantle]

Open Box gaming laptop in effectively mint condition.

[wintry sonnet]

unless it starts sounding like a lawnmower, it's good to use

[stuck copper]

depends on how long the hardware lasts. if the gpu breaks, obviously you need to replace it

[wintry sonnet]

speaking of spending

[warm bluff]

[ornate mantle]

Formi skin is goddess skin.

[warm ice]

[stuck copper]

oof

[wintry sonnet]

solo-legwear is too stronk

[warm ice]

I want to sleep with Formi.

[warm bluff]

when i'm thinking about spending money, i like to convert the money into time worked so i spend less

[stuck copper]

i have to pass on that skin, as nice as it may be

[ornate mantle]

I 100% couldn’t pass up on it.

[stuck copper]

killer legs are hard to resist

[ornate mantle]

But I’ll be passing up on the pasta bote skins.

[warm ice]

Formidable is quite...nah too easy.

[dense wing]

I 100% could

[warm ice]

Because you’re poor?

[dense wing]

cause I didnt like it

[warm ice]

Valid.

[warm bluff]

i'm passing on it too

[dense wing]

I find her original cg much prettier

[warm ice]

Super valid.

[dense wing]

[cosmic pier]

same

[dense wing]

dont worry I still like her

[cosmic pier]

[wintry sonnet]

I still find it hilarious how quickly she jumped in popularity

[ornate mantle]

You can take the round backdrop off though.

[wintry sonnet]

570+ pics on danbooru in what, 2-3 weeks since release?

[warm ice]

Her normal skin is waaaaay more popular than her swimsuit.

[dense wing]

I have a lot of gems too

[wintry sonnet]

I dont think I've ever seen any girl in AL manage that in such a short time

[dense wing]

yeaaah

I mean its nice but

[ornate mantle]

It’s pretty insane.

[warm bluff]

lewd

[dense wing]

I never liked swimsuit skins and I am not a fan of the hair style

[ornate mantle]

How much art she’s gotten in this short timeframe.

[warm bluff]

[cosmic pier]

kawa flexing restart your game gems again

[dense wing]

ive never liked those weird hair braid buns

[cosmic pier]

[stuck copper]

because tiddies win. again.

[warm ice]

Because Formidable hits all the checkmarks imo.

[dense wing]

I dont like her breasts

[ornate mantle]

I love Swimsuits and Qipao.

[dense wing]

imo I think she’d be cuter if they werent so balloon

[ornate mantle]

And Formi hit all the check for me.

[warm ice]

I wanna start the Roon grind but my oil reserves are crying right now.

[dense wing]

I also dislike that all her skin is covered except for her cleavage

[warm bluff]

[dense wing]

its just weird to me

[ornate mantle]

My room grind is almost done.

[dense wing]

might as well shown more of her arm

[stuck copper]

you know what's weird? that hair.

[cosmic pier]

wake me up when there's more cura and curlew art

[ornate mantle]

Hey that hair is actually one of my favorite parts.

[stuck copper]

it's everywhere

[ornate mantle]

Especially how it looks in the skin.

[warm ice]

Oh wait...the Neptune grind isn’t done. It’s only begun.

[warm bluff]

[ornate mantle]

I’m fine with that, lol.

I love long hair.

[warm ice]

Blueprints whyyyyy

[dense wing]

I dislike braid buns

[ornate mantle]

And love long hair being accentuated.

[dense wing]

I dislike buns actually

[dense wing]

that must be it

[ornate mantle]

Probably.

[dense wing]

only because I cant make buns myself

I dislike all buns out of envy

[warm ice]

Long hair is my preference.

[cosmic pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/519588705275609088/623819147981094912/unknown.png

[stuck copper]

that's a bit more than "long hair" lol

[cosmic pier]

she's just helly of yoi's hair

jelly*

[ornate mantle]

Yeah I love Yois long hair too.

[dense wing]

yeah thats way more

[warm bluff]

isn't that skin banned?

[wintry sonnet]

yea it is

[warm ice]

[dense wing]

my hair is considered long but when compared to formi’s its
short.

[warm bluff]

she's cute though

[wintry sonnet]

yoizuki is still danned

[cosmic pier]

[ornate mantle]

It’s censored.

It’s okay.

[warm ice]

Wait wha-

[wintry sonnet]

isn't censorship also not allowed

[cosmic pier]

the letter is blocking the camel

[ornate mantle]

Where is censorship not allowed s

[dense wing]

lul

[cosmic pier]

also

[ornate mantle]

Just cropping.

[cosmic pier]

begone thots

[warm ice]

Wait, Albacore is unbanned but Yoi isn’t?

[wintry sonnet]

yep

[warm ice]

[ornate mantle]

Why was Albacore banned again

[wintry sonnet]

because skimpy outfit

[cosmic pier]

cuz the mods

[wintry sonnet]

not good enough for christian channel

[ornate mantle]

Is that it?

[wintry sonnet]

[ornate mantle]

It’s because she’s a child in a skimpy outfit.

[dense wing]

skimpy outfit is a bad outfit

[cosmic pier]

"why was alba banned again" is avrogen's biweekly question

[dense wing]

fr

[wintry sonnet]

because it was a dumb ban to begin with

[dense wing]

feels like it comes up all the time

[warm ice]

I’m still not risking posting Alba.

[wintry sonnet]

and I dont even care about albacore that much

[dense wing]

well why talk about it so much

[cosmic pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/528197562998718474/553017414548324362/3ytdhnx50am11.png

just post her

its aite

[ornate mantle]

I recently started liking Alba.

[dense wing]

live learn forget

[ornate mantle]

Because of the Emote.

[wintry sonnet]

she's a prankster

[warm bluff]

her outfit is cute

[dense wing]

I still dont like her

[ornate mantle]

[dense wing]

what outfit

[cosmic pier]

[dense wing]

u mean those 2 pieces of cloth?

[wintry sonnet]

what 2 pieces

[dense wing]

[wintry sonnet]

I only see black outline

[warm ice]

Inaba

[wintry sonnet]

[ornate mantle]

It’s a micro bikini.

[warm ice]

You claim you’re not a lolicon.

[ornate mantle]

[cosmic pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514333481061449729/624200164722343957/EEizp2wU0AAdCKD.png

[dense wing]

and thats still 2 pieces of cloth

[warm ice]

Yet you keep making these statements that make you sound like a lolicon.

[wintry sonnet]

yes, that's what a swimsuit usually is

[warm ice]

[wintry sonnet]

unless it's a one-piece

[ornate mantle]

^

A bikini is quite often two pieces.

[dense wing]

dont take my joke so literally

now I dont even want to be here

[cosmic pier]

[ornate mantle]

[warm ice]

Shall we booli?

[warm bluff]

[cosmic pier]

booli inaba

[warm bluff]

[warm ice]

Yes

[ornate mantle]

@dense wing

[warm ice]

Booli Inaba the lolicon.

[wintry sonnet]

that looks anything but patting

wtf azu

lewd

[ornate mantle]

I’ll start GFL for the 9th time dw

[warm bluff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/571056674878652416.gif?v=1

also i'm not a lolicon

[cosmic pier]

[warm ice]

[ornate mantle]

What, Sleepo Beepo is 100% pat materials.

[dense wing]

[warm ice]

Alright we need to take a vote.

[ornate mantle]

One of my favorite guns.

[warm ice]

Raise your hand if you think Inaba is a lolicon.

🖐

[warm bluff]

[cosmic pier]

[dense wing]

I think everyone here is a lolicon

[stuck copper]

when in doubt, bow out. no idea.

[cosmic pier]

kawa

ur here

u roricon

[ornate mantle]

My favorites would disagree with you Kawa.

[warm ice]

I ain’t no lolicon.

[ornate mantle]

[stuck copper]

what the hell?

[wintry sonnet]

we can easily confirm how many lolicons are here

[stuck copper]

i am most certainly not one of those people

[dense wing]

so much lolicon shaming around these parts

[wintry sonnet]

post your waifu showcase

[dense wing]

weebs make fun of weebs

[ornate mantle]

This is a culling.

We’re weeding out the loliconsz

[wintry sonnet]

time for a purity test

[cosmic pier]

just be like lila and use the generic "but she's over 500 years old" excuse

[dense wing]

are u sure we arent lolicons making fun of lolicons?

[cosmic pier]

im an everythingcon thankyou

I con everything

[ornate mantle]

“We”

As in

[cosmic pier]

[ornate mantle]

You’re including yourself Kawa.

[warm bluff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/591529405457891328.gif?v=1

[dense wing]

everyone in this channel

[ornate mantle]

[warm ice]

Off topic.

I think the cooks at my college fucking suck.

[stuck copper]

Kawa

Azu

[ornate mantle]

It’s much too late to mention anything about being off topic.

@stuck copper

[dense wing]

well if I dont include myself then everyone will point fingers at me

🍏

[wintry sonnet]

when did lolis become off-topic on an AL server

[cosmic pier]

apple bonk

he meant the cooks

being offtopic

[warm ice]

I was making an off topic statement.

[wintry sonnet]

what kind of bizzarro universe is this

[cosmic pier]

not the topic

you plebs

[dense wing]

lul

[wintry sonnet]

but George is a cook

[cosmic pier]

[dense wing]

reading is too HARD

[wintry sonnet]

and George is an AL ship

[warm ice]

Because my stomach feels funny now.

[wintry sonnet]

therefor cooks are on-topic anyway

[cosmic pier]

imma cook you

[ornate mantle]

(Insert EN can’t read meme here)

[warm ice]

And the burger I ate for dinner today was still pink on the inside.

[ornate mantle]

[cosmic pier]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/440752961279492108/625506114204860425/1527656120_xoM3Eu3.gif

[warm ice]

The damn cook didn’t cook it all the way.

[cosmic pier]

just dance

[dense wing]

thats what we call a medium rare burger

[cosmic pier]

[ornate mantle]

Anything less than well done is UNACCEPTABLE.

[warm ice]

But like some of it was still cold.

[wintry sonnet]

Well I'm sorry I can't keep up with the conversation, you guys are fucking all over the place

[ornate mantle]

[warm bluff]

[stuck copper]

i like my meat medium rare, and my women around my age, tyvm

[warm ice]

In short.

[stuck copper]

also, that thing is giving me a seizure

[warm ice]

The damn cook served it undercooked.

And now I’m probably gonna throw up soon.

[cosmic pier]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/617436801560215621/623305488876044301/DancingAltera.gif

[ornate mantle]

Alrighty have a gnight y’all.

[stuck copper]

better

[solar fjord]

[warm bluff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/599777091055255553.gif?v=1

[wintry sonnet]

you'll be fine, people eat raw meat all the time

[warm ice]

Ranobe

[ornate mantle]

Hah?

[warm ice]

Am I gonna get sick?

[cosmic pier]

that's gae aqu

[wintry sonnet]

heck we have a dish here that's effectively raw meat

[warm ice]

[ornate mantle]

Probably. Undercooked meat has a lot of risks.

[stuck copper]

yeah

[warm ice]

Should I file a complaint to the Uni?

[wintry sonnet]

literally raw beef

[stuck copper]

jesus christ, we have something like that too

[ornate mantle]

I’d file a complaint to the manager of the eatery.

Bring your receipt.

[wintry sonnet]

with a raw egg on it for good measure because fuck it, might as well go all in

[stuck copper]

my mom eats that

[cosmic pier]

I'd do the shit if it was update and shut down

[ornate mantle]

I do that whenever I’m served undercooked meat.

[cosmic pier]

but its stuck for days now

[ornate mantle]

Imo, that’s just unacceptable.

[warm ice]

When I want my burger well done and cooked.

I want my damned burger cooked.

[ornate mantle]

I only ever want my meat cooked.

[warm ice]

I’d get it if this was their first day on the job.

But come on.

[ornate mantle]

None of that “medium rare” stuff.

[warm ice]

This is simple stuff.

[cosmic pier]

i wouldnt want my meat cooked

[ornate mantle]

I want it so well done and tender my spoon can cut it like butter

[wintry sonnet]

we dont have problems like that in poland

none of this medium-rare or well done shit

you get whatever

and it's either undercooked or burnt down

[cosmic pier]

[wintry sonnet]

or usually just reheated in a microwave

fine dining

[cosmic pier]

atleast 99% of the products you eat aint poisoned one way or the other

[ornate mantle]

How cooked do you want it? Notre Dame or Amazon Forrest?

[wintry sonnet]

depends if you consider all the chems in food poison

[cosmic pier]

notre forest

[wintry sonnet]

but I look at it as "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger"

[cosmic pier]

lel

i wish it killed me

[stuck copper]

"what you mean medium rare? is meat."

[cosmic pier]

i dont wanna become stronker i just wanna drop ded

[wintry sonnet]

"is very rare meat, I find it behind dumpster"

[warm ice]

Anything less than well done is a big no no to me.

[warm ice]

Undercooked is straight up toxic.

[cosmic pier]

cal go sleep

[warm ice]

[stuck copper]

alright

[wintry sonnet]

well that's one way to kill a channel

[verbal obsidian]

Cal was butt naked in the bathroom again

[wintry sonnet]

zaz, I'm starting to get worried about your obsession with cal being butt naked in a bathroom

[warm bluff]

[warm ice]

[stuck copper]

lawd

lewd*

[wintry sonnet]

oh, great

another fucking one

[dense wing]

Bully the game

[warm ice]

For fuck’s sake.

[wintry sonnet]

they better not dare remove Bully from my steam account

Bully's an awesome game

[dense wing]

they wont they just remove it from the store

like twd

[wintry sonnet]

what I'm confused about is, does Rockstar even have that many games

to justify having their own storefront?

[dense wing]

I feel like ive seen their logo a lot on really old games

like 2005 era

[wintry sonnet]

LA Noire, Bully, GTA, what else is there

oh, Max Payne too I guess

unless they're gonna shove all take2 games under the brand of Rockstar I guess

atre was, what

that yamashiro maid skin?

ah

eh...

I mean, fubuki skin's nice I guess

wouldn't exactly weep if we didnt get yet another free yamashiro skin but it's nice

[dense wing]

the chicken? uhh right

very nice skin

[wintry sonnet]

admittedly would've been more hyped if they said they're gonna bring over ayanami's niconico skin

I do like the "we're gonna slow down the pace a bit" part

hopefully it won't be just hollow words used instead of "We're gonna rain down all the reruns one after another so you have to snipe whatever ships weren't originally available"

[ornate mantle]

Aye a word from our lord god’s.

It means that reruns are coming along with Mikasa.

And they’ll be coming alongside mikasa.

Ye

[wintry sonnet]

we have more than 2

we only had in fact 1 rerun

VDiR

[ornate mantle]

1 week per rerun.

[warm bluff]

that's a cute unicorn chibi on the announcement thing

[ornate mantle]

[wintry sonnet]

1 week per rerun to snipe all those missing ships we didn't get

that would end well

[ornate mantle]

Honestly that would be murderous.

I wouldn’t quit the game but I’d probably just not roll at all.

[warm bluff]

[ornate mantle]

Because of new stuff in November

Unless

The reruns are like glorious and Ryujou.

[wintry sonnet]

still, while I have hope for the slowing down the pace, aran's right that the wording on it is a bit eh

ominous

"People said we're putting out new content too quick so instead we'll put out the old content we're missing"

[ornate mantle]

Those are two possibilities.

[wintry sonnet]

if it weren't for all the rerun stuff we're still missing

that would be all over good news

but with the amount of rerun stuff we're behind on, this worries me

[ornate mantle]

I’m missing shit from the first runs of some events...

So they’d most likely pertain to me one way or the other.

[stuck copper]

id be down for another gold fcr

[ornate mantle]

FCR?

[stuck copper]

or another set of rainbow torps

[ornate mantle]

Oh

[wintry sonnet]

fire control

[ornate mantle]

Yeah

Another gold one would be great.

[wintry sonnet]

what event was it from even

[ornate mantle]

I’d def go for another Pxytorp

It was from Fallen Wings iirc

[wintry sonnet]

wasn't fallen wings the fighter plane?

[ornate mantle]

It was in the item Gacha.

[stuck copper]

rainbow quint was from chessboard

[warm bluff]

i hope le malin and sea slug rerun events aren't included in the reruns they're referring to

[stuck copper]

FW was the plane + the gold radar

[ornate mantle]

AH I NEED TO SAVE FOR SEA SLUG

[wintry sonnet]

oh it was

[stuck copper]

probably not

[wintry sonnet]

actually

if we got FW rerun

that would be great

cause we already have all the ships from it

[stuck copper]

yeah

[wintry sonnet]

it'd literally be just farm fiesta

[ornate mantle]

Yeah... I’m still missing Maryland.

[wintry sonnet]

ouch

[stuck copper]

ah

gotta make the baltimore maryland pair

[ornate mantle]

I didn’t care for Collection% at the time so I didn’t care.

And now I sort of do?

Still only fueled by the fact that the girl I want is usually the last one I roll.

[wintry sonnet]

well

the one good thing about mikasa event

is that there's only 1 SR and 1 Elite rate up

[ornate mantle]

Oh that’s nice.

[wintry sonnet]

so they won't be fighting over another rate ups for appearance

[ornate mantle]

Wow that’s super nice.

[stuck copper]

inb4 lulls players into false sense of security

[wintry sonnet]

well

[stuck copper]

gacha hell

[warm bluff]

but isn't that still 2% and 2.5%?

[wintry sonnet]

they did balance it out by having 3 rares on the same rate up

[ornate mantle]

I’m just gonna do dailies still...

[wintry sonnet]

I mean it is 2% and 2.5%, but I guess it depends how you think the gacha works

[ornate mantle]

I don’t want my cube count to get nuked before sea slug and OC rerun.

[wintry sonnet]

which honestly, I just assume when they say 2%, it takes out 2% out of the 7% for SRs

which I'm propably wrong on

[ornate mantle]

You’re not... it’s additive.

[warm bluff]

ya so having multiple rate ups wouldn't affect it

[wintry sonnet]

and it's something like 2% out of the common chance

what I meant was, the game first rolls into what rarity you get and then rolls within that rarity

is what I assume is how it works

[ornate mantle]

Probably.

[warm bluff]

i highly doubt that since that gives you the same probability but just with more complicated code

[verbal obsidian]

I got a new pfp

but its not zui

[ornate mantle]

Oh Kanao!

[stuck copper]

dead inside

[wintry sonnet]

not exactly. if it's a 2% rate up general, then it's 2% out of the 100% of possibilities

if it's 2% deducted from the 7% chance, then as long as you hit the SR, you'd have a 30~~% chance of getting the rate up ship

is what I meant

so if you had 2 rate up ships, that'd be 4% from that 7% chance, meaning both ships share a 30% chance of getting pulled

[warm bluff]

ya and if it's 2% from 7% it's first a 7% then a 28.57%, so in total the probability is .2857 * .07 or (2/7) * 7 which is exactly 2% anyway

[wintry sonnet]

yes, if there's just 1 SR rate up

[stuck copper]

15/15 finally done

[wintry sonnet]

but if there's 2, then both of them will have that likelyhood, meaning you're more likely to end up in a scenario we've already experienced multiple times

where you just keep pulling the same of the 2 rate ups over and over

unless the rate ups are running regardless of the specific rarity % in which case it's much more of a free for all

cause then we'd have a 20% chance of a roll being a rate up ship, if you were to take all 5 ships in mikasa event

[warm bluff]

even if there's 2, the chance of pulling one is still completely independent on the other, so the chance of pulling a specific one is still the same

[wintry sonnet]

yes, but it means you're not as likely to see the same spook over and over which is less draining on my sanity

the less I have of situations like 6 kizuna ai carriers before 1 kizuna bb the better

[warm bluff]

ya it's pretty painful, but that's a psychological thing and not a probability thing

[solar fjord]

new players

[wintry sonnet]

that's what I said, it's less draining on sanity

[solar fjord]

if i miss new botes

[wintry sonnet]

either way it's gonna be a fiesta

and well, there is actually one problem with mikasa event

there's no special maps

the event is just a build spam

[solar fjord]

happy about Granny finally coming

[wintry sonnet]

so there wont be any event maps to get cubes from as clear reward

[solar fjord]

gimme the skins

https://twitter.com/Dd_Zain/status/1176697224350359553

Fisherman/Gamer (@Dd_Zain)

@AzurLane_EN >Atré skins would take some time to implement
Or maybe you should just NOT bring the EN exclusives into JP? If JP is hellbent on having a ton of exclusives, then why not do the same for EN? Or what, do EN players just not matter?

Twitter

[stuck copper]

y are players like that lol

bitter af

[wintry sonnet]

I mean, ideally all the content should be the same

[solar fjord]

someone doesn't understand licences

[wintry sonnet]

but I can sympathise with the sentiment

nitpicking aside, it does make EN version feel lackluster in comparison when there's just straight up content not available

so if people dont get the content, then it's unsurprising the next angle they'll go for is "why can't EN have its own exclusives too"

they'll see it as fair

problem being we've yet to have any actual EN collab

the anni skins were just meant to be an "EN first" deal

[solar fjord]

boat skins that aren't collab, should go to other regions after time

KR skins went to EN right away
only a matter of time before KR/EN skins went to JP/CN

[wintry sonnet]

speaking of EN collabs, remember when we had a vote on possible EN collabs

whatever happened to that

[solar fjord]

in the bin with everything else

[stuck copper]

en companies probably never heard of yostar or manjuu

[verbal obsidian]

[ornate mantle]

That fucking guy.

Is such a piece of shit, lol.

“Do EN players not matter?”

[warm ice]

Who?

[wintry sonnet]

if you think that guy's an ass

[warm ice]

Literally who?

[wintry sonnet]

Azu's talking about the guy in the tweet linky posted above

the one I posted is a different dude

[warm ice]

Ohhh

But still.

Their voices don’t matter to me

[ornate mantle]

I mean, opinions are opinions and it’s good that their voiced.

But there’s a way to word it so you don’t look like a massive douchebag.

[wintry sonnet]

exactly

didnt need all the snark and passive aggressiveness

but the argument is valid beyond that

[ornate mantle]

I that second one is kinda weird though.

He mentions its slow and it’s gonna get slower when they’ve clearly addressed that the pace is fucking lightspeed.

[wintry sonnet]

the second one doesn't even hold water, we're objectively caught up to JP and CN in a big way

for one, we've caught up to all the major events

aside from a couple minor events and the reruns, we've covered alot of ground

[ornate mantle]

Oh wow are we?

That’s pretty sweet.

[wintry sonnet]

yeah, no big event left for us aside of utawhotowhatawendingo

[ornate mantle]

I thought maybe there were 1-2 big events we haven’t gotten yet.

Damn that’s amazing news.

To that first guy, I wanna point him to FGO, where the EN playerbase really doesn’t fucking matter and ask him to compare it to AL.

Or even PAD for that matter.

[wintry sonnet]

I mean, yes? But just because children in africa are starving, doesn't mean you can't be starving either

[ornate mantle]

Lol, other people having shitty lives doesn’t invalidate an argument that we can’t complain about mundane shit.

But yeah.

I’m all for him saying whatever.

[wintry sonnet]

yeah, I can understand the frustration, but alot of argument gets lost in it

it's one thing to nitpick and snark when it's not directed at the staff directly, but if you're gonna tweet at them, you should at the least try and work it into a civil argument

[ornate mantle]

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In other news.

Sese made Zara eating pizza

[wintry sonnet]

shouldn't it be littorio

[ornate mantle]

Both are Pasta botes.

[wintry sonnet]

sure, but Littorio's already the pizza girl

[warm bluff]

[ornate mantle]

Ehhhh, they all eat pizza in my mind tbh.

[wintry sonnet]

we still got plenty of italian stuff tho

pasta, espresso, corruption in football

stuff like that

[ornate mantle]

But Pizza is the only one that matters.

Pasta is just worse pizza, espresso is what pizza compliments, and pizza purified corruption on football.

[wintry sonnet]

imma let you finish

but pasta is clearly superior to pizza in any way

and I can prove it

[ornate mantle]

I’m listening.

[wintry sonnet]

you can make pasta into a pizza, but you can't make pizza into a pasta

clearly superior

[ornate mantle]

And just gonna let you know I have a premonition that discord is gonna die within the hour momentarily.

I’m gonna argue that you can make pasta into pizza precisely because it’s not in its perfect form. Why does pizza need to turn into an inferior product?

[wintry sonnet]

ah but you see, because pasta can become pizza, it means it already covers anything pizza can do, with addition to being pasta, so that's factually more uses

[ornate mantle]

Pizza... doesn’t need to change... while pasta... is so lowly that it can only feel solace when it transforms into a superior product.

Namely, when it turns into pizza

[wintry sonnet]

also nobody ever complains about there being pineapples in pasta

put pineapple on pizza and it's ruined

so it's frail as well

[ornate mantle]

Because no one ever eats pasta enough to experiment.

Sure pizza has had it run in with mistake by us lowly humans... but it is the pioneer of inovation.

You don’t hear anything with pasta in general.

Because it’s so boring.

It’s hit the wall.

But pizza has redefined the wall.

Surpassed the wall.

And is looking down on inferior cuisine atop a mountain of perfection.

It’s even in this cute Emote.

[wintry sonnet]

pizza merely adapted the wall

pasta was born in the wall of dough

molded by it

[ornate mantle]

Pizza has gone through the furnace of hell to grace us with its presence. What did pasta do? Take a bath? Pizza has risked its being to be with us while Pasta has relaxed in mere water.

[wintry sonnet]

if we're talking about the road taken to greatness, pasta has taken all the way from ancient china to become what it is

there's thousands of years of culture behind pasta

[ornate mantle]

Thousands of years of culture... and yet pasta still can’t amount to the innovation and expansion that pizza has achieved.

[dense wing]

I love pizza.

[ornate mantle]

[wintry sonnet]

and yet no matter where you go, pasta is pasta. Everyone understands what it is and how it is, meanwhile pizza as a concept is so corruptible

some guys in burgerstate decided to put it into a deep dish and call it a day

[stuck copper]

Hello

[dense wing]

pizza and pineapple isn’t bad its just so unusual to people theyre afraid of it

hii

[ornate mantle]

You say corruptible, I say brave... bold... unafraid... pasta is set in its ways... a relic of the past... the time are changing... and with that change pizza has long since usurped the pasta in glory upon its birth.

[wintry sonnet]

there's nothing brave about taking pizza and turning it into a cake

[stuck copper]

time to flex

https://youtu.be/PMCejyucn78

[dense wing]

it is time to flex

I couldnt figure out what those were

[wintry sonnet]

I see an imposter

[ornate mantle]

Pizza didnt change. It’s still pizza.

[stuck copper]

Which models are those

[dense wing]

still have a fever brain

[wintry sonnet]

one of these has a cable

[stuck copper]

all of them have a cable

Detachable cable?

ye

[dense wing]

bamboozled

whoaa

[ornate mantle]

Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.

[dense wing]

someone wanna do my homework

[stuck copper]

Imagine having 4 mouse

the beauty of logitech mice, works both wired and wireless

[ornate mantle]

You remind me of my friend whose texting me every hour asking me to help with physical chemistry.

[dense wing]

its mice not mouse

hey I asked all my friends to give me context of what I missed

[stuck copper]

homework u say

[dense wing]

in math we took notes

can I have the notes?

yeah one moment

5 hours later.

[ornate mantle]

Ducking circuits.

More like cirquit.

[stuck copper]

that like child's play

Just

Take your own notes

[dense wing]

IVE BEEN HOME WHAT

[stuck copper]

kawa being a bad girl

[dense wing]

how did you miss that am ai being memed

[stuck copper]

Why not be at school instead

[ornate mantle]

I got out of engineering before doing any circuits related stuff, but I don’t even think I had some to begin with.

[stuck copper]

[dense wing]

he asked so genuinely.

[stuck copper]

engineering is fun

[verbal obsidian]

thats my career

[warm bluff]

Logic circuits are easy, it's pretty much just Minecraft

[stuck copper]

redstone shit

[ornate mantle]

I did well at engineering, but hated every moment of if.

So not my thing.

[stuck copper]

minecraft be teaching kids how to handle binary logic circuits

EDUCATION HELL YE

[ornate mantle]

Heh

[stuck copper]

Too bad they're busy playing their Fort Night game

I was one of those madmen that made whole logic circuits the size of maps

[wintry sonnet]

for some reason I thought of Colobot when reading all this

[stuck copper]

What language is that

[wintry sonnet]

it was a strategy game where you had to program robots in what was a mix of C++ and Java to do specific roles

[stiff musk]

Is this overkill?

[verbal obsidian]

ijn bias

veri nice

[stuck copper]

there's no such thing?

Ringing lolis

Ringing 4 of them

[warm bluff]

That fleet looks like it needs more freedom

[stuck copper]

Why do you have two Nagatos?

because why not

[ornate mantle]

Ahhhh, my room is now clean

Man Joe Rogan Experience is such a great podcast

[verbal obsidian]

yeah hes great lol

fam is so honest

anyways, gn weebs

[ornate mantle]

Night!

[stuck copper]

Nighty night

[cosmic pier]

[cosmic pier]

[flat palm]

The best part about that game-news post is the adorable unicorn in the corner

[dense wing]

til i-25, the submarine whom I bought a skin for
bombed my state

[solar fjord]

[flat palm]

Oof

Better not go show that skin around in town

[ornate mantle]

Well at least she's cute now.

[cosmic pier]

lul

just cuz she bombed your state doesnt mean you shouldnt buy her stuff

like if someone bombed my country I'd be eternally thankful of em

[ornate mantle]

I think you should take Reis money and buy her stuff with it.

[flat palm]

I agree

[cosmic pier]

what money

[ornate mantle]

[flat palm]

So his life is worth 60 gems

[cosmic pier]

bulli