#avrora-general
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That and the state of AAA has been wanting lately
I mean warframe for example
Is like
3-4 years
Still a beta
yeah triple a games gone to to poop


I regard Warframe as one of the shining examples of how to do an F2P well
Not anymore it ain't
Oh boy what happened to it
They've been making that game go downhill for a while
New update rei
Like a good while
It looks nice on my phone
Oh well
nice
The stuff they've added and all that have just ruined the game really
did you get bisquit yet
Ha
🍪
Now about that
Ha
YIKES
I should download nox now that 60fps is a thing
omg i actualy am so excited to try new ui 
All the whales can’t play yet
Aka the battery killer
LOL
lul
So I am on standby
Clever use of the emote
🔛
📴
@clear gate But yeah that is 3-4 years of being a beta
AL EN
1 year
No longer beta

When a gacha game comes out of beta faster than a triple A

can you compare the two.. ?
Well for one they definitely have more resources to work with
So by and large yes
It's true though, they're not directly comparable, lots of factors to consider
They shouldn't still be in beta
The reason they are
triple A games should release completed
"Is so we can make changes and people can't say anything"

Because betas are "subject to change"
And it means they can do what they want
the only change triple a should get is DLCs
AAA games should release in a good state imo
Regardless of repercussions
Honestly, DLC is fine when executed well
but it should never be an excuse to release a bad game
but not unfinised games
Where patching wasn't a thing
And they had to make good games

Because they couldn't just patch it over

some of them dont even bother to patch
look at bethesda
Well that's just lazy
they let modders finish the game for them lmao
and all the console ports of jrpgs that literally never work out of the box 
not that i mind a bit of extra work before a game runs properly but u know
Let's not pretend that shitty games never existed though, even in the times where we like to remember all the great games
:3
Oh yeah they definitely did
But as mentioned
The games that did well
Knew they had to make the game in a full state
As there was no post release patching to fix it
A long way back, PC games used to be harder to write too. Since the Windows 9x era, we at least have common APIs and driver abstractions
Ikr
They have less excuses now
Since things are much easier
There's so many shortcuts now
Those shortcuts are exactly what make devs lazy though
Fun experience - go look at some old DOS games and see how they handle stuff like sound
While I do agree Izu
It would be better if like
They used those to cut some of the harder work
But use the extra time
To polish it more
Many DOS games have a setup menu where you select from a list of supported sound cards
Old games were hard to make
and supported graphics cards
since there weren't so many common APIs, DOS games had to include support for different components on their own
And back then there are more than just PC
and that created so many problems
Yah
I'm talking about just DOS, but obviously there were other computers besides the PC back in the day
I didn't know about DOS, other than its commands
Commodore! Amiga! TRS-80! The various CP/M systems!
DOS began its humble life as a CP/M clone and then eventually became the giant that killed CP/M
Well, the earliest OS I've met is Windows 95
DOS is the OS that started it for Microsoft, the first versions of Windows were just nice interfaces on top of DOS
Windows 9x is also still based on DOS very heavily
earliest OS i used was 98
It was only until Windows XP where consumers were treated to a non-DOS Windows
I think MS purchased something from a company then turned it into DOS
but the first one I actually played on and used for more than a day was windows 2000 I think
Digital something or so?
At first it was just apple
Apple introduced the concept of "mouse"
Gonna be out for a few
Now that I've started such a great convo

Microsoft bought it, then IBM was like "yo Microsoft can we license your OS to put on our new PC" and Microsoft was like "sure" and then the IBM PC was born and killed everyone else
Even Apple computers today are fundamentally IBM PC-compatible
windows won the PC market because their OS was based on NT and DOS which was a step away from Unix
Too bad they could not keep up and nearly went bankrupt by the hand of MS
@clear gate You're welcome
I revived chat for you

it ended up being less resource heavy than unix based OS like Mac/linux
Most of us here are geeks 
Have you actually seen a Unix system, they're way more efficient
at least some of the Unices
Nah not really
that's what I read anyway
The thing is, Unix was never really a desktop OS, not for a longass time
but I guess I'm wrong
It's always been a workstation and server OS
I think nowadays, anyone could create a video game if they tried
and it still dominates there
Like, Azur Lane was created by Unity
windows dominates the personal consumer side of computing because it didn't require a roomful of server
It helped that IBM popularized DOS
otherwise we might not have seen Microsoft's rise as we have
Modern PCs are still fundamentally IBM PC-compatible
Anyway yeah, Unix was just not comfortable for PC use for a longass time. It wasn't a matter of system resources though, just that nobody optimized it for that
Too an extent it is allowed
don't wanna be beaned
But still
Nowadays Linux is pretty comfortable for PC use, but it's come to the party very late, so it's not likely we'll see it rise to dominance soon
It still dominates on servers and whathaveyou
well of course but I'm not a server owner I'm a PC user
tfw
so I take it in the personal context
The filesystem's fine, you just ignore the system folders like you do with any other OS
I use it for my own PCs ¯_(ツ)_/¯
@steep scarab 
@cosmic pier 

I've used it for a long while, so I'm definitely used to the quirks

just folder after duplicate folder all over the place, and some folders are actually partitions, and on and on
well thats nice I guess
if they make a Linux that can run any windows program natively then I'll be more interested xD
For me, Windows has a habit of acting weirdly for no apparent reason and it's not as customizable
Yeah, that's... not happening lol
funny cuz that's exactly how I feel abt Linux 
Some big steps have been made lately though, Steam now ships with Proton allowing a lot of Windows Steam games to run well on Linux
which is hardly perfect, but if you told me two years ago that Steam would ship something like that I would've laughed
I suppose the main issue is that the windows kernel and related source code is proprietary right
Yah, so it's all got to be reverse-engineered
They have been lately, yes. I much prefer this Microsoft to the one of 10 years ago
supposed to be something like a Linux subsystem inside windows
Yah, Windows Subsystem for Linux. It's a Linux stack that runs inside Windows and allows Linux applications to run
perhaps someday people with a license can get a windows stack that runs in linux
You still have quite a bit of overhead from that kind of system of course
yeah
There's Wine, which is... imperfect. But sometimes it works. Kind of.
yeah
When it works it's brilliant, but it can be fiddly and sometimes it just doesn't run stuff
it didn't run what I wanted it to when I tried 
For my part, I mostly moved off Wine - I found it easier to use alternative software than sometimes struggling with Wine
Also, 60 FPS - did you mean RIP battery life? 🤔
The AL app is updated and all, we're just still under maintenance
Also this APK version is "2.0" and the previous one was 1.x
Normally 1.0 is supposed to be the first non-beta release 
Or it was just mk. I
Well, even my not-great eyes can tell the difference between 30 and 60
Things just go faster in a way?
But I don't mind 30
Moving up to 60 FPS just makes me worry about increased battery drain
anyone who cares can tell the difference between 30 and 60 lol
but the game is fine on 30 true
Capping at 30 FPS on PC is gross, but on a mobile gacha game IDC
I don't even mind 30 FPS on PC, I just mind capping it there since a PC can do so much more
There's no reason to put a cap for modern games
In poorly designed games yes
cap at 200 then we good
PC port
Skyrim lol
Having FPS tied to the game engine in a way that can cause bugs is generally an old-fashioned idea, that's like... DOS era stuff
Way back before the convenience of common APIs and stuff
standing on a skeleton and then the bone bounces around so violently it kills you
240hz gaming
Ever try playing a very old DOS game on a very fast DOS PC or emulator? That can create some fun situations
LEGO Island becomes unplayably fast for example
That's not even a DOS game, that's a Windows game
but it's one of those primitive games where the game engine and FPS are tied together
so if the FPS goes up the playability goes down
lmao
The AI moves superhumanly fast and all the controls become impossibly sensitive
Reminds me of the time when I got Morrowind for my PC, only for it to lag horribly
This was way back before Steam existed by the way
since bismarck is coming
I cant make jokes about bismarck never come anymore
.............
its just yamato now
The myth became a reality, but if she doesn't end up in your docks will she still be a myth?
thonk


:3
sounds like a skyrim fellow
azuru reyn is best character making simulation game
i can finally enter JP
gay
@steep scarab 


60fps 

tfw having a big screen that's not 16:9 is weird
I prefer 16:10
i prefer 6:9
new event? 
oh 
im just testing out the resolution
mm i can demo the first map of the event
you still get the cropped UI when you're in battle tho
@steep scarab is it safe to link my twitter acc again now?
u have good tweets
u have good tweets
no u
keke
no u
need that 60fps action
60 fps is the one thing i want the most
Hello there, I am @stuck copper, you can trust me 
60 FPS -->🔋⬇
💻
damn that loading speed
🤔
That's buttery smooth
dunno if my phone can handle that 60fps pepehand

But yeah
make sure its charging when u activate it 
i only play on my phone to grab comms.
oooh
Nice
Equipment tab
where you apply those chat frames
can I borrow some of thos boxes
feast ur eyes


Oh damn
still no special effect for 200 affection
Oh shit
you can also advice on enhancing too
Oho
Retrofit section
Why's that one portrait just blank white
Oh fuck
noice, preview with the background
This is going to be epic
no preview for l2d tho
bg is
tfw akashi follows where you click now in store
previously you can only do that in the menu


Here’s the fleet section

Fleet details

mm wat else do i need to show?
PvP?
the battle or?
Also show me your credit card number with the expiration and 3 numbers on the back
@stuck copper 
Have u showed the wedding ceremony for any ship?
i dun have someone to oath rn 
You can
Replay older ones
Just go to collection tab > go on the ship and click the oath symbol
i thought pr ships had time gates? how did ppl craft in 2 hrs
huh
2 hrs?
Explain
And the hand owo
Sky
2 hours???
"Hello everyone,
PR ships have arrived on EN for about a week now
we know that many of you had grind tirelessly to craft your favorite PR ships
first of all, congrats to those that have completed the grind and about to craft your first PR ship in around 2 hours
as for the rest, do work on PR "
howwww
ah my bad i read wrong
LET ME IN
can i get a brown hand for minne or is thast too much?
It should be brown
Not too much
There is talk of that.
The data mining shows different skin tones
That they’re getting the artists to draw their hands.

Hellll yeah.
Let me find it
I’m gonna marry my choco goddesses
Hell yeah
That means her feet is brown too.
Did they bring foot oathing back.
anime feet best feet
those hands so cool
what r those stars?
Oh wow
wep skin
San Diego retrofit
Automatic focus to boss spawn
Ouuuhhh
this is poggers


wat else you wanna show?
That's a good question
Oh right
Uhh
Isn't fleet tech different now
Is it?
I remember an image
Give me a sec
Ah no wait medal room

oh
medal unlocking to show how much of a great / or shit SKK you are
LOL

Yeah it's nice
This event looks so hype
Watch though
As our servers
Just die
Lol
It happens nearly every big update

i was so hyped for the update
inb4 2 hour delay for a 10 hour maint
i read up wikipedia cause of it
i need to find that
Yuno
yaes
"Sorry but your update is not coming today as we have come across complications, thank you for your patience"



"pls try again tomorrow sorry, no AL for u today"
"Sorry the UI update has been delayed indefinitely, never come back shitikan"
whats a sink the bismarck fleet with our current ships btw?
What do you mean, you mean "what's a historically accurate fleet?"

Dorsetshire, Ark Royal, Rodney
Norfolk and Suffolk helped stalk Bismarck in the buildup to the final encounter
what if bismarck has a special skill to 3 shot ammo rack hood xD
history xD
hmm i can't seem to find it
im gonna bring my hms backline for monarch grinding and then some combo of mogkai/nanoda/porty/ibuki
one shot went into the ammo storage and she xploded
if she's vs hood, hood just immediately sinks
Hood was pretty old by the time she was sent to fight Bismarck, and was overdue for a retrofit at the time
so it wasn't really a favorable matchup
Oh the other SR botes I have maxed
Dorsetshire, Ark Royal, Rodney, Shiefield, Norfolk and ...POW?
Oh you don't know
its the PR ship border @stuck copper
Sure, PoW
if only PoW was useful
without a full eagle fleet
other than mommy H-class Friedich
I'm 50% through 1mil on monarch
same-ish
I gained 50% yesterday only
Bismarck was very new in comparison to Hood, armed with the latest technology of the time
I plan to do the next 50% over today and tomorrow
Hood is a WWI-era ship
she could have survived thwo, if she and POW sync their shot
PoW actually had a lot of technical difficulties during that engagement due to being too new
Yeah they forced her out to war
Before she was ready
And despite that she kicked ass
Oh i found it
i named my vampy Lillith 

Yeah I named her that because it just matched
Her being a vampire and such and what not
ye exactly
Everyone aboard PoW knew that there were probably going to be a lot of malfunctions, and prior to the engagement with Bismarck the technicians were requested to remain onboard. They did so and that helped a lot
Ikr
I tend to come up with names
That either have reference
Or are like anagrams
For example
Portland is Rose
Because portland is the city of roses
that makes sense
PoW's quad 14-inch Mark VII turrets ended up having a lot of breakdowns during the fight
fysh posting lewds

Fundamentally
They sucked badly
Because more barrels = more spread
So more shots got wasted
PoW wasn't wanting for firepower, but eight of her main guns were in the quad turrets
i read the battle of Denmark Strait an d her last battle the day b4 the supposed update, and get let down magnificiantly
Hence why most guns used 2-3 barrels

I named Dork, Dork
Because I refer to her as Dork all the time
Since too many barrels made shots steer off course too much
It's why they were among few
Of the quad barrel guns
i heard KGV did better than POW though
French quad barrels on the other hand
Were far more efficient
As it was less quad guns
And more
2 + 2
same king 
Hood's guns were old and slower to reload
Literally named everyone what I refer to them as
the queen?
"Oops sorry german navy, I didn't mean to come in front of you"
"Let me just give you a present before I go"

wel think i covered most of it now
ships arent male 
In Russian, ships are referred to in the masculine

I believe
we arent in russia
It's because warspite literally went in front of the entire german navy
avrora is trap comfirmed
Just because we drink Vodka doesn't mean we are Russian
ive got to read about that

With some damage obviously
But like
She was quite a monster to do that
Wasn't Warspite like a WWI-era dreadnought
Yes
Something like that yeah
Warspite was really old

She is referred to
As grand old lady
For a reason lol
Why does our grand old lady not wear pants in AL
One of the oldest if not the oldest in commission at that time

The Erebus-class was also very old by the time of WWII
tell me someone gets the reference
Poor Terror
The reason she's a zombie in game
Sad
Is because she got pummelled
And rebuilt
Like took tremendous damage
@sour crescent i dont get it
Aerodynamics
Monitors were considered an old-fashioned concept by WWII, but the Brits still built two more of them for cheap coastal bombardment purposes
Hence the Roberts-class monitors were built
ah yes extra armour extra weight
Roberts-class, including Abercrombie ofc
then Hood should be skirtless too
Its a reference to one of the AL manga's where she explains she doesn't wear pants because she needs the extra speed
she no armour but a fast gal
I mean Graf Spee for example
Well, the point of battlecruisers was that they're faster
Was quite a beast herself
@dense wing kawakawa 
but she weak to plunging fire
To the point she fought if I recall correctly
When do we get USS Johnston
Essex, Ajax and Achilles
On her own
Epic
1 v 3
And still took barely any damage
The only reason spee went down
Is because she got baited
By comms
So they scuttled her
Because renown and ark were said to be inbound
"Keep in mind they were no where near close enough to help"
master-baited
Got full on jebaited
Not as bad as that U-boat that got captured because a toilet malfunction forced them to surface
LOL
link plz!
Side note, can anyone else not get passed the Loading Game screen? (Just checking if I am alone on this)
Actually they just got bombed
"U only captured me cause u got lucky" "LOL, ur full of shit"
"misuse of the new toilet caused large amounts of water to flood the boat."
When the server is up they'll let us know
Btw the worst part of this Sky
I know the server is down, I mean the literal initial loading screen
"EWWWWWWWW POO WATER"
Side note, if you don't know Johnston's story
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Johnston_(DD-557)
Like typically you can get passed that
You did the google play update right?
click cancel instead of confirm and the game wont close
also yea u gotta download a google play update
William D. Porter
Yep I did the update
I'll check it now
who, during a demonstration, shot a live torpedo at Iowa with president FDR onboard
@rare blaze i'd avoid using the "R" word if i were you
Nobody will ever forget WDP
Screw it, just reinstalling the whole game rq
Checked with some other friends, seems like I am the only one getting the issue
"The ship is predominantly remembered today for the string of extremely unfortunate events that plagued her short three-year career."
@steep scarab 
damm i got warned for the "reta..."
Seems fine on mine
against the rules!
Just don’t do it again
@sour crescent your game is stuck at warspite and QE?
go through with that reinstall, just make sure you’re using wifi
Wait
Not sure but it’s permanently open, you cant hide it
since thats corrupted files that causes forever loading there

f
Yea
I was just like "Well now what"
Its the first issue I have ever had with the game
the turntables have turned on me before 

Auto mode is also saved too
oh how the turns have tabled
Even if you exit the game
Oh right
It usually resets if you exit game
Idk
Where it pops up on every single daily login
i assume we still cant pre download the update (?)
You can @spark wagon
I literally had to have keybinds
oow sweet
You need to download from google play store
Update on app store/play store/apk
This is a different update from standard
i mean in-game
It has to be done via google play first
Ahh
But yeah that little notification box
Did it appear during login for you?
The what now
Where it says like
"On auto such and such"
And you have the little box to tick
Because that shit popping up every time the day reset
I mean
Was the biggest pet peeve
the "don't remind me" tick
probs just close thru muscle memory
OHHH THAT ONE
oh
yeah thats pretty annoying
fixed
YES
also

HEL YEAH!
you can always set auto now
they also fixed the checkbox for hide news too
i think
just notice the loading font got smaller
I literally made buttons to aim where they were
look at all those quality of lifechanges
why would they do that
Thanks for this news poot
Like of all the things that actually ticked me off
It was literally that damn tick box
And it constantly rearing its head
Want something confusing
The US Navy had a repair ship called USS Ajax, designated AR-6
Lots of stuff existed with the same names
I miss my shipgirls 
apparently of HMS Enterprise was an escort for KGV's group or sthin
they are hungry
This is why
I also miss my girls 

lies
Even if maint happens
I bet you just misclicked
i have 17 hours rn so that should be enough to last any maint
I only found that out because i thought the white ghost was from HMS >.<
except a 24 hours maint
I hope my girls don't starve when I return

24 hour maint 
i saw this one FGO memeabout maintainece once, got me ROLF
no the " dont u know what happens when maintenance ends? Thats when maintenance begins"
Ah that one
lul
oh that one
This one
but urs is gfreast too xD
Dunno actually
AL is illegal
Play apk on PC with best Android Emulator - free Nox App Player. Be compatible with Windows, and faster and more stable than Bluestacks.
AH FK
Lol
Big oof
wrong link
xD
Having to manually click them is so annoying that I just keybind them instead
thats a genius idea

1 is auto 2-3-4 are skills
- is pause
4 can work as a start quest too
Makes thinks much easier

i bound all that shit to a controller so i don't even have to lift my arms.
i afraid i fat finger my submarines so i put them away from my other skills xD
Lol
On laptop, the Android runtime I use by default uses the Esc key as the back button, and that allows me to not require specific binds for a lot of stuff
as AL is responsive to the back button
no u
Revy what emulator u using?
My emulator is probably different from every other user here
On laptop I use Anbox and on desktop I just use the Android SDK emulator lol

If you thought yours was hipster you hadn't heard of mine
Razzles that means ur using the same emulator as the other half of us
There aren't a lot of good Android emulators here on Linux
nox
Nox too, as u might have known form the link i accidentally sent xD
Anbox is just an Android runtime and uses the native Linux kernel
no emulation required
It's faster and more efficient
Bruh
well you run linux on your laptop right ?
Yah
me w10
i hate nox. i only use it because it's less bloated than bluestacks.
And on the desktop too actually, but on desktop I use the Android SDK emulator from Google since Anbox is still pretty new and can be weird
nox player stopped working
i had a problem where i tried to shut dfown with nox still open and walkerd away
this stopped working, that stopped working
reboot and wait another 5 billion years
my com stopped working, had to wipe
If not for the bugs and the whole "still in alpha" thing, I would use Anbox on desktop too
I use it on laptop since it's less stressful for the hardware than an emulator

and I'll take some bugs over "laptop becomes a toaster oven"
Well revy
If they get it for pc
Let me know
It sounds interesting

But you can play AL while cooking eggs
Would be nice to use an emulator that doesn't emulate
Frying a cpu is really great
not really a toaster oven , i just did an app wipe so my files were sitl there
Especially when it serves up food too
was real lucky
my pc is so dirty, i'd rather not put food in it
Clean it
Not gonna lie
My laptop
if it gets hot enuf , it kills the germs for u

oh okay then






















