avrora-general

[stuck copper]

SR Helena

[cosmic pier]

helena but her survivability doesnt suck ass

clevedad retro when

cant have hele just leaving cleve like that

[stuck copper]

lol

[stuck copper]

what is it with dogs and barking because they want to leave your room

then coming back 5 minutes later and barking because they want to come in

alright hes given up

[toxic scroll]

incase you all wanted to know what chrome translates warspite into on the CN AL wiki

[indigo gull]

jintsuu is indeed magical

[frank ingot]

I don't know the

[cosmic pier]

fuck this bitch wants discounts for

[frank ingot]

I don't know the reason

[toxic scroll]

personal favorite

i may or may not have had an impact on that

[clear gate]

Bad translation, 标枪 literally translates to "javelin"

[toxic scroll]

i may or may not have had an impact on that

i went into dev console and changed it

is what i meant

[clear gate]

lame

[toxic scroll]

there's only one reason i trash on javelin so much

aside from the fact i trash on all evade based ships

deal

it had me at chapter 9

[stuck copper]

javelin is low tier waifu

[clear gate]

Javelin is one of the two starters that I actually use

The other is Laffey

[toxic scroll]

technically i only use laffey

i use aya for HM torp requirements

[ornate mantle]

I don’t get why people shit on Javi so much.

[toxic scroll]

and Z23 for why not

[clear gate]

I don't either, I love Jav

[toxic scroll]

like aside from the nails on chalkboard voice

or

that's my only actual issue with her

[ornate mantle]

I mean, I don’t get why people shit on a lot of ships, lol. They all have some lovable quality.

[toxic scroll]

she's fine aside from that

[clear gate]

I regret oathing Aya actually, I barely use her

I do auto about 99% of the time and Aya is just so ridiculously jank for auto

[toxic scroll]

torp ships aren't the best on auto

[clear gate]

Yah

[toxic scroll]

it really gimps their damage output

[clear gate]

Jav is actually pretty dependable on auto

not as much as Laffey, but not bad

[toxic scroll]

laffey > Z23 > jav > aya

for auto imo

[clear gate]

I have, admittedly, contemplated retiring this Aya to get the ring back and then build a new Aya from scratch
But I'd also feel really bad for doing that

[toxic scroll]

wait

you can't really do that

can you

[clear gate]

I believe you can?

[toxic scroll]

that's

sad

actually

if you can

[stuck copper]

u can kill them for the ring back?

sounds like some messed up romance

[dense wing]

I mean, CN censors IJN ships, so of course the japanese ships on cn wiki will translate to weird stuff

warspite though

[toxic scroll]

like i get if you regret oathing a ship and all

it sucks

but if you can actually scrap a ship to get the ring back

that's FK'd up

[stuck copper]

wait

you can retire ships and get rings back?

[dense wing]

no

[stuck copper]

d'oh

[toxic scroll]

i was gonna say

[dense wing]

that would be so abusable

[toxic scroll]

how though

not like you get an extra ring

[dense wing]

because you wouldnt have to pay for a ring if you wanted to oath them for their skin

[toxic scroll]

they could make oath skins tied to the ship you oathed them too

[dense wing]

or the people who oath ships just for the teeny extra stats

[clear gate]

You can't use the oath skin on a ship that doesn't have a ring even if it's a duplicate ship of one that you have oathed

I've tried

So yes, they do tie oath skins to the ship you oath to

Same for retrofit skins

[toxic scroll]

well retro should be a given

i can see the oath one being confused

maybe that's a KC mechanic

idk

or c really

[stuck copper]

wew

[clear gate]

Well, so far, I cannot find anything online confirming or denying that you can do that

[stuck copper]

i just got an epic 1v3 clutch in siege

[clear gate]

Time to be an asshole and try it. For science

[toxic scroll]

o

I'm 99% sure you can't

[clear gate]

I can't do it. I'll feel like too much of an asshole

lmao

Maybe I'll make a dummy account for that 🤔

You get a free ring after all

Someone has got to have tried this at some point, right?

I'm amazed I can't find anything citing one way or another online

[dense wing]

I have an extra ring on jp

is science its cause

[toxic scroll]

i don't think it gives you a ring back

[clear gate]

Well, what you think doesn't matter when we can empirically find out :3

[stuck copper]

23% for Monarch

[clear gate]

My account is bound to Twitter, so I'll just clear app data and start a fresh game. I need something to do anyway

[stuck copper]

[night willow]

[clear gate]

Here we go

I will be doing Javelin since I already oathed her on main account. That way I can headcanon it in a way that makes me feel not-like-shit

[toxic scroll]

lmao

[dense wing]

same

[stuck copper]

bruh

[toxic scroll]

i could go for a good

right now

[clear gate]

Ok but when do we get Tone

Can someone tell me

[dense wing]

unknown

[clear gate]

sad

[dense wing]

[stuck copper]

poo eyes

[toxic scroll]

i've been an advocate for tone for how long now

an actual cute bunnygirl please

[stuck copper]

When are we getting Essex

[ornate mantle]

Wait a sec

Oath skins are tied to the oathed ships though.

[clear gate]

That is what I said

[ornate mantle]

If you retired an oathed ship for the ring, you still lose the ship and therefore have no ship to have the Oath Skin.

@clear gate ‘s got the right idea.

[warm bluff]

if you retire an oath ship you get the ring back?

[ornate mantle]

No.

At least presumably not.

[warm bluff]

oh ok good, that would be terrible

[clear gate]

That is what I heard from someone, but I could not confirm or deny it with online sources

so I have decided to make a dummy account to test it

[ornate mantle]

See, I don’t think it’s abusable like Kawa was saying.

[clear gate]

It definitely isn't

[ornate mantle]

I just think it’s a waste of a good ship.

[clear gate]

There's no way you can abuse this

[ornate mantle]

There has to be some memer that has done this before.

[clear gate]

There has to, but I couldn't find anything online about it

It's probably somewhere

[carmine coyote]

Basically your scrapping a oathed girl

[ornate mantle]

Just on a basic level this sounds like a game mechanic that doesn’t exist. I don’t believe the devs considered people retiring oathed ships.

[carmine coyote]

Now reminded of that one Atlanta pic where she was crying about how she shouldn't of gotten a ring in the first place

[ornate mantle]

Just on the basis of oath, it’s kind of implied that you’d be keeping the ship literally forever.

[clear gate]

Trust me, having developed software before, this is definitely the kind of thing that someone would think about when developing a game this complex @ornate mantle

It's either there or it's not, but I'm 95% sure that they considered the possibility

and made their best judgment

[ornate mantle]

Well, I guess I’ll have to, lol. It just doesn’t sound logical to include that type of mechanic.

[clear gate]

I am at least very sure that the game allows you to scrap an oathed ship, as I have gotten into the dialog for it before, just not gone through with it.

[stuck copper]

Hence the whole point of the promise ring, right? It’s an oath that lasts forever of course

[dense wing]

[dim crystal]

giving gifts to a girl then asked for them back when broke up

ppl in this chat

[ornate mantle]

Oh, I wouldn’t doubt you could scrap them.

[clear gate]

If by girl you mean a bunch of PNGs and lines of text in a game, then yes

[ornate mantle]

It’s the ring retrieval mechanic that doesn’t sound very plausible.

[dim crystal]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

well

[clear gate]

Well that's why I'm trying to find out 🦊

[ornate mantle]

Do it man.

[dim crystal]

if you are that desperate to get your 5 dollar back

do it

[ornate mantle]

Show us the fruits of your labor.

[dim crystal]

[clear gate]

I'm just doing it with a dummy account and the free ring

[dim crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-gif-4928619

[ornate mantle]

Yeah.

[clear gate]

so I just have to get someone to 100 affection, no big deal

[ornate mantle]

Indeed.

[stuck copper]

[ornate mantle]

Should be ez enough.

[dim crystal]

hmm

using monarch in pvp atm

for some exp

her barrage is backline only

..............

why are all slow debuff barrage backline only

what is the point of that

🤦

[desert harness]

cause it targets the farthest ship

[dim crystal]

the backline are immoblie

anyway

the slow is pretty much wasted

and I was asking about game design

I know how that skill work\

[ornate mantle]

Probably meant for PVE considering movement of bosses.

[desert harness]

its not a pvp game

[clear gate]

I don't actually want AL's PvP to become more serious than it is. Instead I'd like to see a co-op mode

[ornate mantle]

Even then, seems kind redundant considering bosses will probably move out of the way?

[dim crystal]

not from this

[clear gate]

Superbosses that are really hard to kill without multiple fleets

[dim crystal]

well

world boss like what fgo did

would be pretty nice

[toxic scroll]

i want to see server bosses

[dim crystal]

too slow

I said it first

[toxic scroll]

there's no need for on that

like i've said in the past

fgo isn't a bad game

its ran by a bad company

[dim crystal]

its just a garbage gacha

[toxic scroll]

oh boo hoo i didn't get the girl i wanted

[dim crystal]

if it has AL rate and AL freebies

it definitely would be ok

[toxic scroll]

then it'd be garbage

[dim crystal]

wrong

[warm bluff]

but haven't you heard? AL is too generous, there's no feeling of pride and accomplishment

[toxic scroll]

there are legit SSRs in fgo that are garbage

[dim crystal]

you forget about the 20mil resource gated?

[toxic scroll]

legit garbage

you wanna start getting more of those than the 3*s and 2*s that are actually useful?

[dim crystal]

too generous?

tell that too my 500 cubes spent

on the last event

[toxic scroll]

also btw, out of ~243 total servants (about, because some are unobtainable), over half of that are 4* and 5* servants

so what's your complaint again

about 150 4-5*

i lost count at 150

you could literally fix the fgo system by taking fuking CE's out of it

and making it a separate pool

[dim crystal]

yea

thats like a second layer

of bullshit

[toxic scroll]

there's nothing wrong with it's rates

[dim crystal]

low rare, next to no freebies

[toxic scroll]

since over half of it's servants are 4-5*

[dim crystal]

and diluted pool

[toxic scroll]

the problem is they put CE's in the summon pool

no freebies on EN

[dim crystal]

not all 4 + 5 are in the pool

only the base shitty set of servants

[toxic scroll]

i didn't count gift servants

[dim crystal]

and the rateup

imagine getting a fucking stheno or a fucking elizabeth/sumanai starter

its like getting another sandy from limited roll

[toxic scroll]

problem with that

your starter is limited to like

10 4*s

[dim crystal]

well

in short

its a garbage gacha

[crisp palm]

i think the problem with FGO in general is due to the fact that the game is design to be beatable using non 5 - 4* servant so that why the fucking pool / rate is shit

[toxic scroll]

again, the argument is

oh boo hoo i didn't get my waifu

the gacha is shit because they put CE's in the pool

there's so many more CE's than servants

it's not even funny

[dim crystal]

well

I dont play the thing for the gameplay

I'd play REAL video game

for that shit

same with AL

gotta catch 'em all

[toxic scroll]

there are over 1k CE's in fgo

not all available

obv

in the summon pool

but more than the total amount of servants in the summon pool

[dim crystal]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

we all know that

already

stop repeating

[toxic scroll]

you can call it shit all you wan

want

youre calling it shit for the wrong reason

i won't disagree that it's a flawed system

but it's not bad for the "main" reason people call it bad

and this is coming from a man who legit spent over 800 for jalter

[crisp palm]

800 sq or $800?

[toxic scroll]

$

[warm bluff]

[dim crystal]

its not bad just because of the CE inclusion alone

the abysmal rate is another factor

and the low amount of freebies

~3 single roll per week?

[toxic scroll]

low rate because again, there are more 4-5*s than non

[dim crystal]

[toxic scroll]

it used to be 4

EN got lucky and started with 3

JP had to deal with it for like over a year

yes freebies is an issue

but that's not on FGO

that's on aniplex

[dim crystal]

more 4,5 * doesnt excuse that

because most 4,5* are not in the pool

only the base set and the rateup are in the pool

[toxic scroll]

can you show me that is true

i won't disagree that some are event only

[dim crystal]

more like most of them are event limited

[toxic scroll]

also wrong

[vital edge]

So when does the mods step in and throw the #off-topic link?

[dim crystal]

rules changed

[toxic scroll]

1. Soft off-topic (general discussions between users, that are not related to other games, shows, media, etc.) will be allowed fully

[dim crystal]

alright lets stop here

[toxic scroll]

i'll end it here though

[dim crystal]

fuck that garbage game

[toxic scroll]

call it garbage for real reasons though lmao

[dim crystal]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

keep telling yourself that

[vital edge]

We could make a sport out of this salt throwing

🍿

[toxic scroll]

i can join in too because i'm not the salty one

i've got my issues with the game

[vital edge]

So who are the best candidates for grinding Roon?

[toxic scroll]

there's a reason i don't play it anymore

[vital edge]

Hipper ain't doing me any favors anymore

[toxic scroll]

go full SSR meme

[dim crystal]

the KKK

[toxic scroll]

hey lets don't

[vital edge]

Still working on them

[toxic scroll]

ok

[vital edge]

I mean I retired them last rerun

[toxic scroll]

i already told the mods about the person who made KYS jokes

lets not have another one for racist comments

[vital edge]

Did I miss something?

[toxic scroll]

the KKK

last i checked

[vital edge]

It's literally

just the three KMS CL's

[toxic scroll]

KMS doesn't have many cruisers

do they

[vital edge]

Seriously

just take one look

[toxic scroll]

last i checked the KKK doesn't refer to AL

but ok

and they have less than i thought

[vital edge]

that's why I asked for advice on Roon

[dim crystal]

if you maxed the triple K

they have 8 oil cost

[vital edge]

They all suck for MVP play

[dim crystal]

which is

pretty cheap

[toxic scroll]

you can max them, sure, but they are

[dim crystal]

comparing to prinz

[toxic scroll]

not exactly good

[vital edge]

I have no reason to bring a brick wall to a DPS contest

[toxic scroll]

you're doing more runs with them because they can't really grab MvP

unless you run solo AR

in which case you better be good at killing suicide ships

[dim crystal]

just dont equips main gun

[toxic scroll]

or have high AA

[dim crystal]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stuck copper]

hi

[warm bluff]

or confetti gun!

[dim crystal]

yea

[vital edge]

@dim crystal I am 100% tempted to do that tbh

[dim crystal]

that

just run a normal bb backline

equipped with a confetti gun

[vital edge]

but I'm using Zeppy.

[dim crystal]

and a maxed secondary

shit my confetti gun is maxed

[vital edge]

Both?

[dim crystal]

gotta use the second worst gun

the triple 406

[warm bluff]

i'm using this garbage ap gun 😄

[dim crystal]

14 oil cost backline

[clear gate]

That gun isn't actually bad for barrage or skill spam

I use it on Amagi mainly

It shoots fast

[dim crystal]

heres what I'm using

wait probably not that gun

[vital edge]

Good thing I kept one

Hmm?

[dim crystal]

that gun cant shoot shit

that 2nd i meant

[clear gate]

The AP DD gun? It totally can actually

Lots of people recommend it as a BB/BC secondary

[toxic scroll]

ye

[clear gate]

It's a bad DD gun but fine as a secondary

[toxic scroll]

it's actually p good for a BB/C secondary

DD main gun

is garbo

[dim crystal]

it kinda sucks at shooting fireboat

or maybe its just my non -upgraded tennesse

[toxic scroll]

i mean if the ship is on the bottom and the fireboat is on the top

of course it's not gonna do that good

otherwise

it does just fine

[clear gate]

I mean it'll always be worse than a CL gun for killing suicide boats

[dim crystal]

solo backline

[clear gate]

but that's part of the game with DD guns

[toxic scroll]

any non HE gun is gonna do worse

speaking of

do suicide boats have "armor"

like light/medium/heavy

[vital edge]

Alright, screw this

[stuck copper]

I think no

[vital edge]

I'm replacing Zeppy with Unicorn

[stuck copper]

they takes full damage from any kind of shell

that's why AP deals with them better due to penetrating property

[clear gate]

HE rounds also travel slower than other types of round

[toxic scroll]

penetrating just means it can hit more ships

more than 1

at least

[dim crystal]

eh

[stuck copper]

yes

to deal with pain train

[dim crystal]

why dont you do 1-3

dont 2-2

[toxic scroll]

you'll get more roon exp with a x-3

[vital edge]

I'm grinding Zeppy's affinity since it's at 98

[toxic scroll]

fair enough

[dim crystal]

what map is taht

[vital edge]

8-1

[carmine coyote]

HE rounds set stuff on fire, AP just goes through most ships

[dim crystal]

8-4 is the best map

that one could survive reliably

with a lb0 ship

[vital edge]

I'm farming for drops as well as exp

[carmine coyote]

I'm on Poi farm doing Roon xp

[vital edge]

it's not like I'm only after exp

[toxic scroll]

HE does more damage per hit (i'm p sure) and can ignite, AP does less but pierces and hits more ships, which can be faster for loud maps/nodes

[dim crystal]

btw equip your star player with 2x oxy torp

[toxic scroll]

some cases AP performs better than HE

[vital edge]

So Admiral Hitler gets two rainbow dildos

gotcha

[dim crystal]

for mvp

[vital edge]

Her survival will go to hell, but then I'll just pair the vanguard with Unicorn at this point

[dim crystal]

you dont have to kill the boss

[toxic scroll]

i wouldn't sacrifice her survivability just for torp damage

[dim crystal]

just farm normal nodes then quit

[carmine coyote]

Did you mean Hipper there? @vital edge

[vital edge]

Yes, I meant Admiral Hipster

[toxic scroll]

you could always put some KMS cruisers in boss fleet and get some extra like that

[carmine coyote]

[dim crystal]

heres my 30 oil auto

on8-4

[vital edge]

I wish I didn't retire my KKK trio

They were already maxed before this

[dim crystal]

i like their themes

[toxic scroll]

dang

[dim crystal]

[toxic scroll]

out of dock space or something?

[vital edge]

yep

[dim crystal]

and their chibis in dorm

are funny

[carmine coyote]

That almost my crew, bit I'm using Leipzig I'm place of the retro one, and Akashi in place of Tennessee

[vital edge]

only recently added 20 slots

[toxic scroll]

i uuuhhhhhh

went a bit crazy

[vital edge]

250 is my limit

[toxic scroll]

it used to be 300

[vital edge]

I'll just raise and retire from here on

[toxic scroll]

i like keeping one of everything

it's always been a thing i've done

[vital edge]

I'd only do that if inventory size didn't cost real money

[toxic scroll]

eh

quality of life

[vital edge]

Games have taught me how to manage space

Not pay for it

[toxic scroll]

i manage my space

but if you don't have the space to manage

when you want one of everything

[dim crystal]

I have 300 atm

[vital edge]

The 150 they give you from the beginning is the most generous space I've ever seen from a limited invetory gacha

[dim crystal]

sooner or later you will run out

[vital edge]

Obviously, I will

[dim crystal]

supporting the game a little

doesnt sound too bad

[vital edge]

That's why raise and retire

I did support the game already

[dim crystal]

[toxic scroll]

then you gotta re-raise

if you need the ship again

[vital edge]

I'm not going to give them my bank account

[dim crystal]

[vital edge]

KKK was unexpected, but thats that's because I was unfamiliar with the PR rules

I'll make do with what I have for this one

[dim crystal]

just take it easy man

[vital edge]

Will do

[dim crystal]

people might get everyone in 6 weeks

but you dont have to be like that

I would tho

[vital edge]

I'm not trying to

This is a longterm thing people rushed in two days

I'm just here trying to get Roon so I can give her my ring instead of Columbia

Because fuck Columbia.

[dim crystal]

got her yet?

[vital edge]

Nice of you to ask

[carmine coyote]

I'll upgrade the docks to 400 when I can fund it, also it teaches you how to actually ensure you have living expenses

[vital edge]

Yes, I got her

Somewhere in another universe

[dim crystal]

well

time to take this easy

for next week is bismarck

[carmine coyote]

Also why ring Columbia when you can have Denver

[vital edge]

that's what I'm waiting for as well

Because Denver ain't my type?

You do you.

[carmine coyote]

What about Cleavbro?

[vital edge]

Overdone

[dim crystal]

montpelier?

[carmine coyote]

And I guess Monty is out too?

[toxic scroll]

so it's a thing about a ship is too popular to oath

[vital edge]

Okay, Monty is 50/50

[carmine coyote]

[vital edge]

I was contemplating that midway with the Columbia farm

[carmine coyote]

Monty is a good girl, it's just she has her sisters to deal with, and Cleavebro

[vital edge]

She's pretty cool

I was after Columbia since she caught my eye in week one with the loading screens

no complicated reason behind it tbh

[carmine coyote]

She's also in the Dailies too

[vital edge]

Well yeah, but I couldn't tell she was playable back then

not without looking at the loading screen

Right now, I know that anyone with artwork is bound to be playable at one point :v

[toxic scroll]

except Tone apparently

[vital edge]

Yep.

[toxic scroll]

[vital edge]

And Mikuma, but who cares about her?

[toxic scroll]

who

[vital edge]

[stuck copper]

Who is Tone’s sister?

Chikuma?

[carmine coyote]

The DD bunny

[vital edge]

She has a sister?

[stuck copper]

Better bunny girl imo

[carmine coyote]

Frontline rabbits when Yostar?

[toxic scroll]

why'd you say "and mikuma"

[vital edge]

Dunno

I guess it just came out

[toxic scroll]

i was gonna say

she's 100% ingame and playable

event ship sure

but still playable

[stuck copper]

Hello there, any of you guys here oathed Eugen? What is her special touch line?

uh why

go to the wiki

analyzing intensifies

[toxic scroll]

i think it's the same

[stuck copper]

since wiki didn't contain her special touch line when oathed

[toxic scroll]

because it probably doesn't exist

[stuck copper]

its probably the same idk

...

damn

it's the same

[carmine coyote]

She just wants to lewd you in return

[stuck copper]

I thought they gave her new lines

[toxic scroll]

not all skins have different lines of everything

oath skins aren't an exception

[stuck copper]

for a ship from KMS, Eugen is surely hot

I didn't have high appreciation for them though

What happened to NorCar

[toxic scroll]

forgotten

like every other short lived fan ship

[stuck copper]

North Carolina fell into oblivion

[toxic scroll]

we'll probably get a skin for her on the event rerun

same with cranes

imo

[stuck copper]

but she lives inside my heart

[carmine coyote]

She needs the bunnygirl skin

[stuck copper]

I've been trying to imagine Carol in a wedding dress

[toxic scroll]

i mean it's probably not gonna be what everyone expects/wants

she might get a bunygirl skin

but not what the image everyone is imagining

[stuck copper]

but I was unable to do so. maybe Carol's stature is a bit bigger than Belfast, it was hard to imagine

[carmine coyote]

Well she is also a BB

[toxic scroll]

so is nagato

yet she's a washboard

[stuck copper]

so... any of you guys here interested in my translation work for Zui doujin?

[toxic scroll]

one of these runs nicholas

one of these runs

i've gotten like 4 Z23s, 2 Laffey, and 4 shigure

[carmine coyote]

@stuck copper

Is it a safe ZuiZui doujin, or not safe doujin?

[stuck copper]

not safe

it is a full H-doujin

DM me

@stuck copper

[carmine coyote]

@stuck copper ditto

[stuck copper]

@carmine coyote: what?

[carmine coyote]

The doujin

DM me as well please

[stuck copper]

[vital edge]

Okay, this is looking better

The dildo really does help

I'll give one to Leipzig just to secure that MVP

[toxic scroll]

might as well

any MvP you can get on them makes it faster

and oh

i was supposed to be working on Ise

oh well

[clear gate]

Ise Kai

[toxic scroll]

i got my Hyuuga kai

[clear gate]

Isekai

[toxic scroll]

but Ise is

very low leveled

53

after i get nicholas

i think i'm gonna work on my lower level ships

for once

what PR ship should i do after neptune

[stuck copper]

is nep your first

[toxic scroll]

yes

and considering i'm at like

30% of her 2mil

[stuck copper]

uhh

[toxic scroll]

31% to be exact

which HMS ships would you recommend

to level

that aren't SSR

er, better wording

ships like belfast, aurora, york/exeter

[clear gate]

What are you looking for in a ship?

I can always recommend Leander as a cheap, reliable HMS cruiser

[toxic scroll]

mostly waifu points lmao

usefulness is cool and all

but considering there isn't a "bad" ship

[clear gate]

Waifu points are subjective, what are you looking for

[ornate mantle]

@stuck copper Send it my way.

I need it for... research...

[toxic scroll]

really just usefulness

[clear gate]

...Leander

[ornate mantle]

Wtf, lmao.

[clear gate]

[toxic scroll]

surely there's more than just leander

[ornate mantle]

Always stick with Waifu Points.

[clear gate]

Of course there's more than just Leander

[toxic scroll]

man if i Dpicked every ship

[ornate mantle]

I mean, why not.

[toxic scroll]

i'd run consistent 70+oil fleets

[ornate mantle]

That's how I make all my decisions in this game.

[clear gate]

York isn't my type

[toxic scroll]

that's how i make my decisions in every game

[clear gate]

too meme

[toxic scroll]

sheff i don't like

[ornate mantle]

Then what's the difference now.

[toxic scroll]

curacoa and curlew i don't know much about

[ornate mantle]

THINK WITH YOUR D(ESTINY) SIR.

[clear gate]

They're just generic maids imo

[toxic scroll]

because i wanna level more ships

if i keep Dpicking

no other ships will get leveled

[ornate mantle]

Honestly, that might be their selling point.

[clear gate]

Yeah

[ornate mantle]

Being the stereotypical maid.

[toxic scroll]

jamaica is cool

[ornate mantle]

Which isn't bad at all IMO.

[toxic scroll]

but she needs sheff for a skill

[stuck copper]

sure theyre generic but theyre still hot

[ornate mantle]

I mean, people u se Hiryuu Solo.

[toxic scroll]

maybe i'll do leander, suffolk

and

hmm

[ornate mantle]

Don't think one skill will change her overall effectiveness.

[clear gate]

Use Kent 🙃

[toxic scroll]

arethusa for the blue hair

[ornate mantle]

Good choice.

Arethusa is a keeper.

[clear gate]

I sometimes run theme fleets for the fun of it

[toxic scroll]

she looks like

[clear gate]

and I used Arethusa in my tsundere fleet

[toxic scroll]

budget Helena

[ornate mantle]

She more like Violent Aurora

[toxic scroll]

i was talking about how she looks

[stuck copper]

Arethusa is my enhancing material :pepega:

[toxic scroll]

same hair and eye color

[ornate mantle]

I have a MLB Arethusa.

She's so cute.

[toxic scroll]

Arethusa might have slightly lighter shade of blue for hair

[clear gate]

back to memeing for ring

[stuck copper]

who's arethusa

Aurora's sister

[clear gate]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Arethusa

Aurora's older sister

Crescent is a better tsundere

[stuck copper]

both don't approve my special touch, so tier I

[clear gate]

Stock Crescent art is really bad though

[toxic scroll]

i'll yeet some ships into the 10hr comm now

and then academy them next

[clear gate]

Thigh gap larger than the amount of cubes I have

[toxic scroll]

she def got some anti torp bulges on her retro

[stuck copper]

oho

[toxic scroll]

now that's an upgrade i can appreciate

though i think the pout in her base art is better

[clear gate]

Crescent art improves the most of the C-class retrofits imo

[ornate mantle]

I think i like Galatea of the 3.

[clear gate]

The Arethusa class you mean?

[toxic scroll]

can we talk about how Cygnet steals skins from Crescent and Comet

[ornate mantle]

Yeag.

[toxic scroll]

because they don't have 1

[ornate mantle]

Arethusa, Galatea, and Aurora.

[toxic scroll]

while cygnet has like

as many skins as laffey

[clear gate]

Galatea is the most romantic one of the three, for sure

[ornate mantle]

Can we just worship Cygnet's thighs tbh.

Like goddamn.

[toxic scroll]

i appreciate thighs and all too

but i got other priorities

[ornate mantle]

[toxic scroll]

i'm more of a Stern guy

[ornate mantle]

Living on a whole new planet there bud.

[clear gate]

But yeah Cygnet stole all the skins from her sisters

[toxic scroll]

she has 4 skins

retro not included

literally as much as laffey

[ornate mantle]

See.

If she had less skins.

[toxic scroll]

technically

more than laffey for us

[ornate mantle]

I know people would complain about laffey having too much skins.

Or, other ships having too much skins.

[toxic scroll]

because we won't get the bili skins

laffey having too many skins?

have they seen aya?

[stuck copper]

[ornate mantle]

My point is that there will always be shit to complain about, lol.

Regardless of who has what in whichever amount.

[warm bluff]

nicholas doesn't have enough skins!

[toxic scroll]

i'd rather complain about a ship with 6 skins

before a ship with 4

[ornate mantle]

Like, does Cygnet even share the artist with all the others

That people complain for?

[clear gate]

Yes

[ornate mantle]

Awesome. Crescent and Comet get the pass then.

I can see valid complaints with those two.

[ornate mantle]

Holy shit.

[clear gate]

Fun fact btw, Belfast, Belchan, and Edinburgh all have different artists

[ornate mantle]

Cygnet artist drew them all?

[toxic scroll]

ikr

i was listing ships by artist

[clear gate]

No, that's just a different artist

[toxic scroll]

we were talking about

different artists

[warm bluff]

i'm surprised the artist for zeppy isn't the same as the one for big zeppy

[ornate mantle]

OH, lol. Some of the moon runes merged into one.

[toxic scroll]

aya is the only ship with a different artist than the other 3 starters

[clear gate]

Guess who has the least skins of the starters

[toxic scroll]

oh we know

and i complain about it

a lot

[clear gate]

Poor Z23

[toxic scroll]

yeah she got a skin recently

[ornate mantle]

Oh uru.

[toxic scroll]

with all the other starters

[ornate mantle]

Did you see the new Helena skin.

[toxic scroll]

wait

wait

what

link

[ornate mantle]

YEAH.

[toxic scroll]

sauce me

[clear gate]

wot, Helena skin

[toxic scroll]

sauce me up

[ornate mantle]

Yeah bruh.

[clear gate]

I knew about Helena retrofit

but Helena skin

[toxic scroll]

i heard about the helena retro rumor

[toxic scroll]

skin though

[ornate mantle]

First one.

[toxic scroll]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[ornate mantle]

Evening Dress Helena Baby.

[clear gate]

Wait is the top one Z23

[ornate mantle]

And Z23 Skin baby.

[toxic scroll]

wait

is that z23

[ornate mantle]

hELL YEAH BOYS.

[toxic scroll]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[ornate mantle]

you're welcome.

[toxic scroll]

thank you

[ornate mantle]

I was reacting the same way.

Almost got fired at work due to it.

[clear gate]

With that manicure, the one on the right has to be Poi or Shigure

[toxic scroll]

right looks like shigure

[ornate mantle]

It's Poi for sure.

[toxic scroll]

or poi

idk

who's bottom

[ornate mantle]

Shigure has dark hair you nerds.

[stuck copper]

z23 skin owo

[toxic scroll]

spee?

[clear gate]

Graf Spee

[stuck copper]

i need gems

[ornate mantle]

It's Spee.

[toxic scroll]

you can't see her hair in it

fym about shigure's hair

[ornate mantle]

Yeah you can.

[clear gate]

You can see one lick of hair

[toxic scroll]

far right?

[clear gate]

which I missed in the first pass of the picture

[toxic scroll]

oh

[ornate mantle]

Yeah.

[toxic scroll]

you can

[clear gate]

Definitely Poi

[toxic scroll]

didn't think that was hair

[ornate mantle]

it's literally Poi's hair color.

Which makes me more hyped.

[toxic scroll]

i didn't see that as hair at first

[ornate mantle]

BECAUSE THAT'S 5 SKINS I NEED TO BUY.

[toxic scroll]

lmao

[ornate mantle]

ATOP THE 5 I NEED TO ALREADY BUY.

Excuse me as a I go beat my wallet.

[clear gate]

Tell it to give you more money.

[ornate mantle]

I tried.

It kicked my ass.

[clear gate]

Sad

[ornate mantle]

Told me I was a poor fuck while it was at it.

[toxic scroll]

lmao

[ornate mantle]

Yeah, I'm very hyped.

Bismarck L2D.

[toxic scroll]

someone beat up 9-3 and tell it to give me nicholas

i'm mixed on bismarck

like it's cool we're getting her

[ornate mantle]

Uhhhhhhh, other ships revealed.

[toxic scroll]

but i wasn't one of the people who was wanting her

[clear gate]

I don't have much attachment to Bismarck personally

Yah, same

[ornate mantle]

I'm definitely wanting her.

[toxic scroll]

only reason people want her so much imo

[warm bluff]

i hope you get nicholas soon

[toxic scroll]

is because she was in the beginning

and never again

[clear gate]

Definitely cool that we're finally getting her though

[ornate mantle]

????? couldn't be more wrong at least in my case.

[toxic scroll]

give us tone

[clear gate]

Give us Tone for rabbit fleet

[ornate mantle]

I fucking love her design.

[toxic scroll]

this is a personal thing

but bismarck to me

[ornate mantle]

I wouldn't have cared too much if she wasn't as attractive to me.

[toxic scroll]

looks like KMS kongou

[ornate mantle]

But she can suck ass for all I care.

I fought your claim about her looking like KMS Kongou a long time ago.

[toxic scroll]

you did

i remember that

[ornate mantle]

Exactly.

[toxic scroll]

i never said it was a strong reason

my only reason was

blonde long hair

blue eyes

[ornate mantle]

[toxic scroll]

and dem anti torp bulges

[ornate mantle]

You can say that about literally every character with that feature.

But I don't wanna relight an already fought battle.

[clear gate]

IDK, you can't really say that for Gridley

[toxic scroll]

their outfit and gear are 100% different

[ornate mantle]

My point is, I love her design a lot, lol.

She's super pretty.

[toxic scroll]

i like Bismarcks design more though

[clear gate]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/images/c/ce/Gridley.png blonde hair blue eyes

[toxic scroll]

long blonde hair

[clear gate]

Kalk

[toxic scroll]

gridley got short hair

[clear gate]

Niizuki

[toxic scroll]

kalk is a loli

also loli

[dense wing]

long blonde hair and blue eyes, the one fallen wings ship

[clear gate]

See, now we're getting into other traits that were not specified before :3

I win

[toxic scroll]

i was only ever talking about the hair and eyes

i mentioned nothing else

[clear gate]

:333

That was pointless

[toxic scroll]

it was

[clear gate]

I'll stop now

[toxic scroll]

i never held strong on my claim

only they got the same hair and eyes

i'll agree bis looks much better

because she does

[ornate mantle]

I just get tilted when people compared arts and say it's "just" that as an argument.

Can't help it, I love all the art in AL too much, lol.

[toxic scroll]

nothing wrong with that

[stuck copper]

give me Atago

are we drooling over lolis

[toxic scroll]

also niizuki isn't a loli

i didn't know which one she was lmao

[ornate mantle]

niizuki is not a loli.

[toxic scroll]

so i just went with assuming she was a loli lmao

[stuck copper]

oh okay

[ornate mantle]

Niizuki is a strong independent woman.

[toxic scroll]

also nagato hit 110

[stuck copper]

are we drooling over boatgirls

[toxic scroll]

cool

[ornate mantle]

She can probably kill us all.

[toxic scroll]

now who do i level

[clear gate]

Niizuki has a crippling lack of self-esteem

[toxic scroll]

i'll probably get amagi to 110

now

maybe amagi will give me the extra luck so i can get nicholas

[clear gate]

Well, Amagi's luck is very bad. So your hope may be misplaced

[warm bluff]

put a bulin in your boss fleet, that 100 luck will probably help

[clear gate]

Speaking of, Amagi has the highest accumulated EXP of my ships, close to 2 million

Being flagship for a lot of my farming fleet compositions will do that

[toxic scroll]

damn

i barely get ships to 110

tirp had enough exp to go from 100 to 110

and then i never used her since

[clear gate]

Oh, I kept using Amagi loooong after getting to 110

[toxic scroll]

do i not have a radar on my trash fleet

wtf

[clear gate]

I've decided to give her a break

She needs it

[toxic scroll]

my amagi is 108

so she's close

just not there

i think that's the same with my Kaga and Akagi

[ornate mantle]

Amagi is a fucking gift from god.

Adore her so much.

[toxic scroll]

Amagi is the perfect ship

[clear gate]

Phoenix is also a workhorse for me

[toxic scroll]

change my mind

you can't

[ornate mantle]

She rivals my love for Ibuki and I-13.

[toxic scroll]

reasons why Amagi is better
Fluffy tail

[clear gate]

but Phoenix basically never gets MVP

[toxic scroll]

that's all you need

[ornate mantle]

I'd almost agree.

But I-13 and Ibuki have great thighs and cute horns.

[toxic scroll]

fluffy tails and ears, loving and caring personality, smart af

[clear gate]

Speaking of, where is the tail in Naka's art? Her chibi has a tail, and her sisters have tails

[toxic scroll]

might not have one

[clear gate]

But her chibi has one

[toxic scroll]

does she?

[clear gate]

Yah

[toxic scroll]

kinda looks like hair

almost

[clear gate]

Trust me, you can tell it's a tail in the dorms

It moves independently of her hair

[toxic scroll]

idk

[ornate mantle]

Just put her in dorm.

[warm bluff]

speaking of tails, nagato is missing her tail

[ornate mantle]

Can confirm tail is present.

[toxic scroll]

art is inconsistent lmao

not all Sakura ships have tails or ears

they have at least one

not always both

or horns

[clear gate]

I don't think Nagato has a tail

[toxic scroll]

if an oni

[ornate mantle]

Maybe it's a hierarchial thing?

[clear gate]

I think it's just random

[ornate mantle]

idk.

I wanna theorycraft.

[toxic scroll]

to be fair though

she's also got this

[ornate mantle]

Like, is the tail counter a sign of higher standing.

[toxic scroll]

in her two skins

a giant ass fox

and bab foxes

[ornate mantle]

Basically it's a family portrait.