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So I'm not worried about that, lmao.

Meh, I'll claim illustrious.
oho
I love seeing her Acquisition Screen
Might Decide to Raise a second.
jk
Well actually.
That sounds kinda nice.
i dont like raising dupes so i'm probably just gonna scrap whoever i get
I jusr scrapped her.

Ibuki at 81 Affinity.
cant relate

Didn't you finish Ibuki tonight.
Yah I just did
I meant Lila
Oh
But yeah, i didn't know you were working on Ibuki too, lol.
So she's your first pR?
Yah
Naisuuuuuuu
Wait I told you this already
I said I was working on Ibuki and Neptune at the same time then gave up because it was actually terrible
so I picked one
Since I have Zeppy, I have begun work on KMS memes ๐ฆ
gotta raise my deutschland and graf spee for roon
mine are currently "bruh" and "moment"
I wish I got zeppy
i got two, want one?
I only got Zeppy from that build pool
out of the limited

It's nice that full KMS is more viable now
It actually is pretty good
@ornate mantle well, take it into context. It's dead compared to #al-general 
She'd be usable if she coule actually do something with her gun
lul
Of cuz of cuz 


fish is ded
Til I'm not alive anymore
Can't be dead if it was never alive
quality-wise
and eaten

what backline do you guys use to farm for roon? literally anything i put in there that's not a healer steals mvp
i die on 9-4 with solo AR 
Maybe not high enough level then.
9-4 for Niizuki?
Solo AR + Frontline should be able to handle 9-4 very easily.
9-4 because that's the highest i can realistically go with this crappy comp lol
MIght wanna stick your AR into the dorm while using a Healer.
I just did 8-1 for most of the farm ๐ค
ok i'll try vestal, she was getting dangerously low when i tried her

I farmed 11-4 for a while with a 3:3 fleet trying to get Columbia
have you like considered using a BB but taking their maingun off
but I didn't get Columbia
just a secondary
@warm bluff : Might be my vestal that's okay since she's 110.

I was going to say, you could try using a BB with just the secondary gun
BUt i think she'll do fine if she's 105.
should i spend gold and limit break vestal for future uses or save it until i cash it in for PR
oh ya i tried with confetti gun on a BB but my team is so weak they take a ton of damage from not killing enemies fast enough
ooooh arizona is a good idea!
I love vestal, so I'll always say to hypermax her ASAP.
isn't that a pad term?
Not at all.
I mean it's your call lila, I already had MLB Vestal
Hypermax is a general gaming term.
never heard it before
Meaning to just max out as much of vestal as you can.
I mean, i've played multiple gacha.
And it seemed to be common terminology among them.
hehehe
actually that begs the question
never heard it before bur I also donr play many gacha games bc
what diffference is there between akashi and vestal
whats the point when u dont have the time or money 
other than one is a complete pain in the ass to get
Both are awesome.
Vestal: Heals more but only once per battle and when someone is close to dying
Akashi: Heals everyone by a few % but only every 35s
Akashi can provide Long Term small healing... so she has more sustain. Vestal does one big heal for a ship.
hm
her heal per 35s better be worth since most mob battles last like what a minute and a half?
tho thats with BB barrages so maybe not
That heal is worthless
Go for whichever you want man, lol.
Akashi is surprisingly "good enough" for a lot of situations. I find that I prefer Vestal on small fleets, which is where I want to have an AR most of the time anyway
ig ill use vestal since i have her
finally i can get rid of some bulins
I am choosing the easier path to farm Saint-Louis
Which is?
American CAs and CLs are competent against bombboat on 9-4
My Cleveland, Helena, St. Louis, Portland are all 110
akashi is a cat so she wins by default
Minneapolis and Phoenix are catching up at 105

Hahahaha
Arizona is a superdreadnought
She has naturally high FP
i thought i could get away with using hoodgun so she's not doing nothing
LOL
Why tho
But haha no, Arizona too strong

Give her Tirpitz gun
Give her Confetti gun
Give her nothing
give her a quad
Maybe aux gun for fire boats
I should max an Arizona..
arizona is great
Crying is just what I like xd
except when she steals mvp
I have Arizona at 102
Is the gun she has like just a better purple version
Nope, it's a shittier version actually
No

Its literally the worst gun in the game
On paper it looks better, but the rounds it fires explode into tiny pieces that do almost no damage
Ohhhhh
so in practice it is very bad
Yes

sanshiki is beautiful
What genius invented that
IRL it's meant to be an AA round

You fire it, it explodes into shrapnel and the shrapnel shreds planes
dont do this at home kids
In AL, that makes it useless
Theoretically, if you could land all of the tiny pieces, it would do good damage. Like... if there were a boss that took up the entire right side of the screen
Chungus Ai
Niche at best
We need a real giant boss
if only giant kizuna ai were actually giant the gun might be useful
Well, I think Arizona can reach over 400 FP at 110
So why would they make the gold version have this and not the purple
IDK
Anyway it's a bad weapon, and even if we get a giant boss it would be a niche weapon at best

Take a shot everytime you hear tenebris
Take a shot everytime Cent grunts
dies from alcohol poisoning
I prefer Arizona to do a pan flip every time she heals
ok screw this i'm going back to 7-2, zeppy never fails me
No wonder why guys on #gameplay-help insist that Ari is the best USN BB
inb4 Arizona still got MVP with confetti gun
That's only true for performance
That gun is downright murderous against light armor
Since SSK shells deals more damage on light than HE, I think
if you put the FAKKYU skin on confetti gun does it make a lot of tiny FAKKYUs?
No, only the main shell
so it's even more useless

145% is not that much higher though
SSK shell deals more damage to light armor
Not enough to justify the loss in damage from splitting into tiny pieces
It hits more targets
Need not destroy, just rack up damage and Ari will steal MVP all day

Btw this is why we said "don't use a main gun at all"
What is her default gun's reloading time?
If you want a main gun on Ari use an unlevelled 283
Still has a short reload time and does no damage
Triple 356 mm arizona
What gun should I use on Duke of York
A fast potato
How about.
Purple 410mm for DoY probably
You use an AR instead.
How about an AP gun with crap modifier against light?

I use purple 406's on Dork
Give Dork 406 or 410 depends on how you want to play
Yah
Or give her 381 if you want maximum overdrive
I hope you mean gold 381 MK2
Yes
and not purple 381 MK1 lol
Yah
What's the difference between running 406 and that one
Reload time
And why does the gold one go backwards in model
The 381mm shoots much faster but hits significantly less hard
406 is more damage over longer reload, 381 is less with shorter reload
You can get out roughly 4 shots a minute with 381 whereas 406 is only 3 shots
I should probably go 381 to get faster slows but it's core data and I can't be fucked with that
So, 381 MK2 is the recommended pick for ships that rely on skill procs when the main gun fires
e.g. Arizona
Dork only slows with her timed volley so 381 means nothing for slows
But her Damage increase will basically have a permanent up time with the 381
Or smth
"During each battle, increases the damage of the first main gun salvo fired by Duke of York by 20% (50%). Enemies that are hit by Duke of York's main gun take an additional 3% (12%) damage for 8 seconds."
but yeah, slow is only from the 20s barrage
Alright I'm set where she is then except for the aux
I usually just use TbtsK for aux guns
Unless I want slightly faster but smaller big dick damage
or the British twin 152mm
Her secondary I can just toss on a Belgun right
Belgun works too
I personally prefer AP rounds on BB secondary weapons
since the projectiles travel a bit faster
That's a thing?
That is, in fact, a thing
It's not that AP rounds travel faster per se though. It's that HE rounds travel slower
The formula used to compute the DPS values of the guns below (against Light, Medium and Heavy armour) is as follows:
I just pop belgun on all of em as decoration just for the 20+ fp more than other shit 
This is what I typically run on Dork as a primarily solo backline through everything except w10 and 11
and then between AP and normal rounds, obviously AP rounds are just better
HE++...?
World 10 and 11 I switch the FCR to an Extinguisher
Huh
No gold SG @sour crescent? :<
I have it on Izumo
o i c
Literally only have 1
Been playing since day 1 and I have 1 Roomba, 1 Gold bofors and 1 gold SG
I used the triple 152mm as my default BB secondary for a while since a lot of people recommended it, but I found out that I don't actually like it
I prefer twin 152mm and TbtsK
Is SG the big ol radar or the smaller one
I definitely can see trip 152mm being great for certain stuff though
SG is the dishy one
Do not forget this aux, they're very helpful for small fleets
and fleets in general, but especially small ones
I throw em on anyways since accuracy is always good
^
Never hurts to hit more even though I have seen 3 volley's in a row miss when using the Gold one


The ambush evade perk is also just wonderful for small farming comps
Yeah
Except it never does anything since even 12% engage rare seems to be 100% for me
*rate
It matters more in late worlds

In world 10 a single ambush can mean the difference between a failed run and a perfect run

World 11 even more so
Well then I'm screwed
I mean that also depends on how optimized you are, but yeah. It can.
Especially smaller, more marginal fleets
If you are running what I run it will be the end of you 
I'm not running what you're running but my luck is absolute dogshit
What world are you on lila
Solo Nimi front, Dork and Akashi for trash and then NagAKaga with Cleveland for boss
I just finished world 9 today
I've explained my w11 fleet a fair amount by this point I think, not sure if either of you were around for that
How did you find Fidget Spinner on 9-4 ?
Probably "easily enough" since 9-4 was only truly pain before we got threat levels and level 110
Then she slaughtered it
For w10 and w11 I suggest using fire extinguisher instead of the RWG @stuck copper, because oh boy you will get set on fire a LOT

Unless you can
your way through
Time to open like 80 of each box
extinguisher is not necessary
Yah, you only really need it for flagship

extinguishers on healers are pretty useful
I mean if you aren't running a healer it helps a lot
What if like every other ship catches fire-
They eat the fire 

I plan on using Izzi in everything once she is up to scratch
tap head
She is immune to fire because she is FIRE 
Anyway for w10 and w11 farming, I use a 2:1 mob fleet of Amagi + Vestal + Phoenix @sour crescent @stuck copper and then a "whatever" for boss as long as it's good enough
and Amagi has SG + extinguisher
But that SKIN though
You can definitely do variations of that fleet comp - I've tested it with Akashi instead of Vestal, and you can probably use most strong barrage BBs
Ibuki has heterochromia
Then get her when skin is out 
dunno why but hers looks meh
I'm def not using Phoenix so Minnie it is
Azu is going to be mad to hear that lol
I am waiting until I have Nep, she is gonna be my Zombie bote
Until then I run Solo Nimi for trash
Izumo has big tits too xd
You can probably use Minny in that fleet comp, I haven't tested myself
Izumo is just all around a perfect package, she has an Ara Ara-> Mommy side and then she has a huge sword
Ig?
I finished Ibuki first ๐ฆ
She just wants to scold me according to her oath line
amongst the six
Ibuki is fanservice
Epic armpits
More so than the others
She's for the touhou fans
I like her for her personality actually, but the fanservice is fine too
Izumo tits are glorious.
I have no idea what her personality is.
I obviously love Ibuki.
I don't want a sweetheart, I want someone who will trample me under their heels xd
The last 3 I will get 

That's doable

Your kink is wide encompassing.
I want someone who will be lazy with me
From stepping on to amputation I guess
I am open minded
I consider myself open minded too. Not sure Iโm down for that Amp play though.
Gonna have to take a rain check there.
we already know whos the most and least popular in wave 2
Who
Ok but Seattle is the best from PR2
I'd hope so
the two US botes are the least
All I know is I am getting Gasco in PR2 She is adorable
Literal goddess
Iโm going for Azuma.
Kitakaze is best PR2
with like 5% vote each
I'm going for Friedrich or maybe Gascogne
Georgia and Seattle
Or Georgia
I like Georgia
Iโm going Azuma first then FdG
both of them are unpopular
FdG
Sad!
๐ฎ
^
Seattle is a cutie too
I only care about seattle georgia and gascogne
I swear I have some of the least popular opinions
Azuma, Seattle and Gasco for me
Gascogne is like my least favorite.
The sooner I get my conductor mommy the better
I need the Taco Ara Ara fix
Blasphemy
Well, Seattle then Gascogne.
Better
PR 2 designs are great in general
Gascogne only gets a pass because hair color.
So shallow, gosh

Otherwise sheโd be lower because Seattle has a Fang
rest ill probably leave unresearched as usual
Fang lul
( หฬฑหหหฬฑ )
Gasco > Seattle > honestly I used Azuma as a filler, I really don't give a shit about the rest 
Smh
That's close to the softcap
That's 60k gold well spent
Sounds like 60 k Gold saved
The ONLY reason
Since I won't get her until last
id get FDG
Azuma > FdG > others is how I see it.
is if i love Bisko
^ tbh same
I'm getting her first since she's literally a mom
but Bisko has a huge mark against her
Also apparently has some really good skills
If Bisko is nice then triple BB KMS would be fun using FdG, Bis and Tirp
I canโt wait for Bisko
But if not then no point
I'd smash that grind button so HARD
I'm just like "Bisko wooo
"
Pepto bisko

oh wait azuma and fdg are 1.2 and 2.4 mil, so 600k more
Since she is the other main PR1 ship I want
Why tho
Because Decisive
UR rarity
Decisive rarity, yeah
yea
yea
Azuma and FdG yeah
and 10 cubes instead of 5
Oh shit that's epic
Nah, Azuma is also super great.
Jesus
Itโll be fine.
its a rainbow gun
Is Azuma cute and/or hot
I get the god tier BP commissions.
Azuma is a fucking gift from god.
Azuma literally means "wife"
just get lucky
come walk the path of explosions with me

Okay but what's she look like

/wiki azuma
A wife
OHO
That's literally all she is tbh
Her art is almost enough of a turn off for me
Itโs the biggest turn on for me.
her lines are kinda sweet
Sheโs fucking fantastic.
only reason she's even considerable 



wtf did you think shed be
LOL
Well for someone named "wife"
Azuma is a witch
and you're a bitch
floating mid air and shit

The wiki is being a cuck and doesn't show full image so I'll just take your word for now ig
gimme the kagaheart ye bitch


I'll see how I feel about the others when we get PR2 but all I know for certain is Gasco is first
100%
Then probably Seattle
I'd pick fried rice cuz muh edgelord 
I generally pass out before I decide if I am going to sleep or nah
Waking up at 5 am for a year to go to work takes its toll
I sleep at like 9 pm
Lucky
I can't fall asleep till like 12
And my bitch ass dog started to wake me up at like 4 or so
I used to be like that
And conveniently
me be like:
"10 mins left to class over, k imma get in bed and fight 2 matches, resend classes and sleep"
falls asleep during the second match, wakes up in the morning and curses himself for not just cancelling and resending class
repeat 500 times 
The day before I have AP tests
I start to feel the fatigue from every hour of sleep I missed

what's a sleep?

Must be nice
I need to get Wales soon
I only use Arizona and the Clevelands from USS
I don't touch anyone else
I use primarily HMS and IJN tbh
With like Z46, Z1, Nimi and Tirp from KMS
I use mainly USS and IJN right now, I also have a lot of investment in HMS though
I pick and choose across the factions based on waifuism, if someone is bad and I like them I still use them
I mainly use botes
I too use botes
I try to keep it as diverse as I can but my oaths are just pretty much spread between ijn and hms lel
then again I cant spend money so I got less oaths than I'd do

Izumo was my 32nd Oath I wanna say, will have to check
I'll probably hit Love on Galatea and Leander while farming Nep so they will likely also get a ring, leaving 1 more for Nep
only got 8
from ijn its akaga amagi and hms its javelin vampire the 2 monitors and pow

I would have more oaths but I'm saving gems atm
biding my time for the next promise crate
I would have more gems but my irl rng fucked up on picking up the birthplace 
I'm also realizing that soon, I may have a bulin crisis
nice meme
sidi can you go jump off your leg and break your bed
wait
I said that in the wrong order
maybe so
usually it'd go like "jump off your bed and break your leg" but that went wronk
anyway
Atago is the reason I started AL so I will always have a soft spot for her
I started for Illustrious.
Lusti was literally my first ship in the game after the starters
I started for mutsuki
I liked Atago a lot more than Takao at first... but then Takao grr on me.

LOL.
Sandy -> Enty -> Hood were my ships right after started.
I don't remember who I started for
Enty > Belfast > Sandy
So I definitely hit the jackpot early on.
I started cuz event x happened and I got to know bout the game and needed sth to waste my life away in

Hood was the last of the regular rolls before they started adding to the default pool
Hood was alright
My first 10 builds was Lusti, Cleveland, Hammann, Takao, Hood and a bunch of other shit
The reason I remember the first 5 specifically is because that was my fleet for a long ass time
Oathed all of them
First was Hammann though 
Ohhhh, it was Prinz.
And I got her as the 7 day login
No
It was warspite.
No
Belfast.
Lmao


I was fond of Belfast at the time I got her
She did a better job than Laffey back then, and only because Laffey lacked her retrofit
Belfast I have never liked to be completely honest. Too "proper" if that makes sense. I base a lot of who I use on their personality
Iโm still very fond of Belfast.
I love her Qipao, personality, and looks.
I like her but I'm not driven to use her
Got her to 110
wow i shouldnt have waited until the last day to farm for belchan
i just finished
also, I ain't no whale so...
Not even close
Those costumes may as well not even exist


back to point, I want to use her again because I have her oathed
Iโm a whale.
< Me when I see something I like
so i spent days of grinding for absolutely fucking nothing?
amazing
fucking amazing
What are you talking about.

You can still access the shop
oh shit
It's here until the 22nd
Event shoo is still there

Just no more farming.
that's fine
I have to do it
Anything for Izumo

That's the 3k I need
no gold for next week 
what about the bismarck roll
Honestly I'm going in to the whole Bis thing like I don't care about anything if I get shit then pog, if not so be it
i can't believe i didn't get zeppy
i dropped all of my cubes into special
no zeppy
what is the sound effect of AA guns I've been constantly hearing?
not even an SSR
err, i only hear gunshot music ingame 
Good news is that Zeppy will be permanent later I think
is it new BGM?
the sound of AA guns
but atleast the chance is there
i dont really care about not getting zeppy herself
in 1 eyears
but if i throw all of my cubes at building and i can't get a goddamn purple ship
So any clue when the new UI comes?
en still needs to remove sandy from special and heavy
and the other ssr that dont belong in special
New UI comes with the next maintenance IIRC
maybe new UI's release info will be announced after 5/17 livestream ended
what confused me about intern bis leek is
he said middle of may
but bismarck was promised as a 2d year anniv reward for cn
but 25th may isnt middle of may

its somewhere in the middle of the first and the last day
just remove all other days
and its the only thing in the middle


someone's gonna speculate that the aa gun noises are the sign of sandy kai incoming
I play with the game muted so I have no idea what anyone is on a bout with regards to the constant gun fire etc 
Grats
Thanks 
luckily i got a 12 hour free project this morning
gotta save these 30k coins i got atm
nice
you'd be spending bout half of it or something mlb'ing her anyway if she was a normal unit

Intern-kun gone nuts 
i thought there not gonna remove the special pack oils on shop
forgot to buy them 
Inbb4 its a hint to a future GFL collab 
too bad GFL is garbo
i'd legit play FGO over GFL
When the new ui will be there ? 
don't know
When they fix the bugs and are happy with it probably
basically
inb4 fixing the current bugs will make another bunch rise 
that's usually how bugfixes work
they mostly do it through two-step procedures
99 little bugs in the code
99 little bugs
Patch one out compile it around
300 little bugs in the code
300 is a best case
you try to fix one thing
and break something completely unrelated
Bugs are a pain in the as* 

i forgot to take vestal and akashi out
Wait you use them both in the same fleet
i was doing 10-5 stuff
Ever since we got the level 110 update, chapter 10 and 11 haven't been so bad imo
chapter 10 was easy af after danger level tho
With a full fleet lvl 110 it's not supposed to be hard
and you say that like we had w11 before 110 lol
Yah, danger level made 10 easy
๐ฆ You know how sometimes
you talk
without thinking
This is one of those moments
yup
You can optimize really well for w11 actually, a 2:1 mob fleet is realistic
time to wait 2 minutes for my hms to kill the 11-4 boss
But you do it in full auto ?
Yes
mhm
That fleet's not far off from what I do, I do "battleship with heavy barrage + Vestal + Phoenix"
Says on the japanese wiki that UI got delayed because l2d skins were bugged in the new UI
Javelin is great idk what people mean
Twitter i mean*
Oof
- None of the tierlists actually say Javelin is bad
- Javelin might be weaker than the other starters, but that also doesn't make her bad
maybe because Javelin isn't great in offense, so they say
You know Javelin has the best torps in HMS
I'm using my shipfu only
They're not Ayanami-level but they're quite respectable and do a lot of damage
Awww 
Well it's hard to hit ayaya level for torp
which gun should I give Javelin? Twin 120 or 127 twin?
I got a spare golden 127 mm
I find that javelin has the best starter kai barrage because it's hard to miss it rip
not exactly a fan of her barrage so just use 127mm
and inb4 she steals mvp almost every occasion in my USN fleet
its just too unfocused
then again I dont like z23's barrage either
cuz its too focused

Nimi barrage is eh, her entire potential revolves around her main gun firing
The only popular main gun I wouldn't recommend for Jav is the peashooter
So I use Twin 127 for her
















