avrora-general

[dim crystal]

[clear gate]

That is 6 mob + 1 boss

[stuck copper]

About row 4

[tough burrow]

cn tier list

[stuck copper]

Still funny though

[steep scarab]

restart eat doughnut

[stuck copper]

That a collab bote is so high

[tough burrow]

cn tl are funny, yes

[flat palm]

my baby i19 sitting at tier 0

what a cutie

[stuck copper]

It's kind of weird though

[flat palm]

if only i had her

[stuck copper]

That Gamer AI is so good

Especially for a collab bote

[clear gate]

From her statline and skillset it's not weird to me

[flat palm]

I wish they made purple heart better

[stuck copper]

No I mean it's weird

[flat palm]

its weird to me

[stuck copper]

Because most collab

Suck

[flat palm]

they didnt want collab ships to be strong/required

[stuck copper]

In terms of being good

[flat palm]

but they made neps garbage

and kizuna good

[tough burrow]

I like that I can use char I like and don't feel like a dumb idiot who shoots himself in the foot by doing so

[stuck copper]

Yush

[flat palm]

how does that work out

[stuck copper]

[flat palm]

i love black heart, got her maxed skills and lvl 110

but everytime i use her

[tough burrow]

so I'm totaly fine with Kizuna ships not being garbage

[flat palm]

it feels like a handicap

[tough burrow]

BH is fine tho

[steep scarab]

restart collab when?

[clear gate]

BH is fine just not amazing

[stuck copper]

I'm actually planning to mess around with monitors more

Never get enough love

[flat palm]

don't even get me started on purple heart

big yikes

[clear gate]

Just very solidly midtier

[clear gate]

Lol purple heart

[stuck copper]

But yeah I have plans for my HMS / USS

[flat palm]

let's make a skill that procs after 115s

[clear gate]

Isn't PH's 115 second barrage really underwhelming

even after all that waiting

[stuck copper]

Still can't use my CV HMS comp yet though

[tough burrow]

ye

[flat palm]

well yeah you never get to use it

[stuck copper]

Centaur when.png

[tough burrow]

it's not even that good

[flat palm]

nothing goes that long

[tough burrow]

[stuck copper]

Yeah it's weird

"This is a long cd skill"

"Is a really bad barrage"

[tough burrow]

well, I get the idea they going for

[stuck copper]

If it's gonna take that long it should just wipe the screen entirely

No if's and's or but's

[tough burrow]

like just before you about to lose S rank - it procs and destroys everything

but it's bad, so it doesn't

[stuck copper]

[clear gate]

Nep retrofit when

[tough burrow]

neva

[clear gate]

I know but one can dream

[stuck copper]

But yeah like

[cosmic pier]

da

[stuck copper]

I want to do CV fleet

But I will probably need Centaur

[flat palm]

cv fleet is like

centaur essex enterprise

[stuck copper]

HMS CV fleet

Not USS

[flat palm]

oh err

[stuck copper]

Big asset fleet

[lone sinew]

victorious

[stuck copper]

[clear gate]

HMS has so few damage-oriented carriers

[flat palm]

Vicky centaur lusty i guess..

[stuck copper]

More like

Vicky / Centaur QE

[flat palm]

you said cv fleet

doesnt that mean 3 cv

[stuck copper]

I didn't say CV only

[flat palm]

[lone sinew]

[flat palm]

ok so qe

[stuck copper]

I also want to mess around with Acasta and Ardent

Just get 55% Avi power buff

• Sirius

[clear gate]

So if this is an HMS CV fleet, Sirius-

I got beaten to it

[steep scarab]

[stuck copper]

As Sirius is actually better with QE than 3 CV's

[lone sinew]

no

[stuck copper]

It's true though lol

[lone sinew]

I think Sirius only gets 7% per cv

[flat palm]

[stuck copper]

Yeah

She gains more having 15% as the last slot

Then only 7%

So she loses nothing but gains more bang

[clear gate]

Sirius gets 7% FP + Torp + Reload per carrier

yeah

Not even as many buffs

since QE buffs everything

[stuck copper]

Exactly

[lone sinew]

[flat palm]

forever 11y old

i dont like using her bc she looks so bad in her base skin

[stuck copper]

Cause the stupid part about it

[flat palm]

[stuck copper]

55% avi

With Lusty

[lone sinew]

QE + Leander for +30% FP to CL

[stuck copper]

And double damage proc

[lone sinew]

[stuck copper]

[flat palm]

Imagine playing hms and not using monarch

[stuck copper]

Imagine only playing meta

[lone sinew]

[cosmic pier]

imagine imagining what are people imagining

[flat palm]

Monarch is waifu meta and ierlist meta

tier*

[stuck copper]

How dare you imply that big boobs mcgee is not waifu

[clear gate]

Speaking of buffs, friendly reminder that Jintsuu buff stacks so you can use a second torp buffer if you like

[lone sinew]

I don't even know what the meta is atm

nagato?

[stuck copper]

Same old same old

[lone sinew]

so akaga

[stuck copper]

Basically what you probably think is meta

It probably is

Since most of those botes

Haven't gotten weaker

Infact

With PR

[lone sinew]

I finally got both of jintsuu's skills to lvl 10

[stuck copper]

A lot of them of gotten better

[lone sinew]

[stuck copper]

If nothing else

@flat palm Clearly a waifu

[clear gate]

Jintsuu + Kagerou Kai for flat +35% torp buff to vanguard

[stuck copper]

"Fyi she's 110 now"

[flat palm]

I mean i don't disagree

[lone sinew]

my ijn fleet is akaga + nagato, aya, jintsuu & bucky

[flat palm]

but monarch legs

[stuck copper]

Look at those legs

Those are some sexy legs

[clear gate]

or Shiratsuyu as discount, more memeable Kagerou

[lone sinew]

doy legs tho

[stuck copper]

I'm a legs man myself

[steep scarab]

@cosmic pier

[stuck copper]

I know good legs

[flat palm]

[lone sinew]

hood has legs, but her dress hides them

[stuck copper]

Mine is 110 btw

[lone sinew]

[stuck copper]

That's an old image

[flat palm]

Cant beat this

[lone sinew]

my first 110 was unicorn

[stuck copper]

I prefer thigh highs

It's a preference of mine

[clear gate]

I actually don't recall who my first 110 was

[flat palm]

Actually this one is better

[stuck copper]

I know who mine was

Weird part is

It was QE

[clear gate]

I do know who it definitely can't be

[flat palm]

my favourite is garter belt, where the strap hugs the thigh

[lone sinew]

[stuck copper]

Oh so like Sheff

I can get on board with that

[lone sinew]

welp gtg and work

[flat palm]

Vicky dmg in sp black

[stuck copper]

See ya later Shark

The thing I love about Vicky

[flat palm]

as we can easily see, vicky is stronk

[stuck copper]

Is how she's so innocent

[flat palm]

[stuck copper]

Yet

Says some of the most dangerous things ever

[flat palm]

yet she wants to lewd tirpitz to death

[stuck copper]

With a straight face

Like that genuine smile

The words don't match it lol

[flat palm]

im still mad theres almost no tirpitz and vicky fanfics

[stuck copper]

But yeah if thigh highs and good legs are involved

Count me in

Victorious is capable of being evil?

She says evil things with the most genuine kind smile ever

I think that speaks volumes

[flat palm]

ok so let me show you my favourite blonde waifu then in AL

[stuck copper]

Is she as evil as mine?

[stuck copper]

Probably

Ah Glorious

[flat palm]

hellyeah

[stuck copper]

Both meanings

no one can be more evil than this incred

You know what's weird Aki

[clear gate]

HMS ships have some of the most poetic sounding names

[carmine coyote]

Vicky wants to bully Tirpitz a whole lot, to the point where I really think she might be an S after all

[stuck copper]

I used to start the game playing USS

Now I am back to my home nation

Tirpitz is just an adult but shut in NEET

[regal reef]

Ah yes, like HMS Sandbar-at-a-river

Very poetic

[carmine coyote]

[flat palm]

[clear gate]

That's not a real thing 🤔

[flat palm]

im ijn biased but hms has some good ass ships

[carmine coyote]

[regal reef]

Yes it is

Very famous HMS ship

[clear gate]

IJN has some of the coolest names

[stuck copper]

It sure does

[regal reef]

IJN names are fairly standard

[stuck copper]

Have you seen my fleet btw aki?

Royal Navy's naming convention is weird

[regal reef]

The usual lets-name-it-after stuff

[clear gate]

if you translate some of them, you get shit like "soaring dragon" and crap

[regal reef]

HMS naming convention is "get a dictionary"

[clear gate]

that's Hiryuu

Taihou is "great phoenix"

[carmine coyote]

Then there was "Let's name them after Royal titles of sorts too."

[regal reef]

Actually, it was "lets name them after people"

[stuck copper]

Flying Dragon is Hiryuu

[flat palm]

[stuck copper]

and Souryuu is like Teal Dragon

[regal reef]

But HMS doesn't name ships for living people

[stuck copper]

I am blind to color

[carmine coyote]

Wasn't the a song called the HMS Pinafore

[stuck copper]

@flat palm

[regal reef]

Pinafore

[cosmic pier]

@steep scarab

hms gay archer when

[stuck copper]

Btw they're all 110 now

[flat palm]

[regal reef]

Also HMS Sandbar is Belfast

[stuck copper]

But look at those assets

Then you just get QE

[flat palm]

i prefer ajax over leander

[stuck copper]

Flat as a board

[flat palm]

waifu wise

[cosmic pier]

nice assets

[clear gate]

Ajax too intense for me

[cosmic pier]

[stuck copper]

Leander I use for waifu + usage

[regal reef]

Oi

Asset cropping

[stuck copper]

She buffs the fleet up nicely

[flat palm]

ajax has a cute anniversary skin

[regal reef]

[cosmic pier]

right

[stuck copper]

But as you can tell

I use big bob fleet

[flat palm]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/images/b/b3/AjaxParty.png 10/10 would buy

[cosmic pier]

queen such big bobs

[stuck copper]

She's there Rei

[clear gate]

Achilles > Ajax

[regal reef]

A lotta ships, when you get down to it, have fairly poetic names if you go into etymology

[steep scarab]

@cosmic pier

[stuck copper]

To be reminded of how smol she is

[clear gate]

I find Achilles much more relatable

[carmine coyote]

QE: Why does every one of our royal fleet have large racks!?
Warspite: Don't know, lol.

[stuck copper]

Poor Warspooder

[flat palm]

[cosmic pier]

oh right I forgot to add my daily 🚮 to your daily hms team flex

[stuck copper]

She will be used when I get her Kai

Lol

[flat palm]

atleast QE wont get back problems anytime soon

[stuck copper]

Yeah they're all max level now

[flat palm]

as for lusty.. eh

[stuck copper]

Just need to affection farm them

[cosmic pier]

razz: lulmeta
also razz: pff not gonna use warspooder before she gets retro and becomes meta

[clear gate]

Warspite without retrofit has to be one of the weaker SRs

[cosmic pier]

[stuck copper]

I do use her though

[cosmic pier]

and now he's gonna go "tbh rei though"

[stuck copper]

She's oathed and 110

[clear gate]

Roasted

[stuck copper]

I literally bring her often

[flat palm]

Rei so hardcore

[cosmic pier]

har har

[stuck copper]

The kai is just a bonus

I use her already

I enjoy her

[flat palm]

I enjoy sirius

[cosmic pier]

rei:
akis: HAR HAR REI SO HARDCORE

[flat palm]

and her personality

Tbh, roon is the first ship i looked up on and genuinely thought i loved her design

[stuck copper]

I love too many designs

[carmine coyote]

I mained Warspite until I got Tirpitz

[regal reef]

I just love the ironblood techno-organic monstrosities

[stuck copper]

But yeah atm

I generally

Bring HMS BB's

Over CV's

[flat palm]

Roon's voice makes me

[stuck copper]

I need a few more things to make my CV fleet work better

[carmine coyote]

Then I maxed out Tirpitz over Warspite

[flat palm]

i want a hug from roon..

[clear gate]

You will die

[carmine coyote]

So do the Little Beavers too

[flat palm]

her first skill is pretty interesting tbh

[stuck copper]

See

Warspooder

[flat palm]

Main gun property is changed to HE. When firing main gun, increases Reload by 1% (3.5%). Can be stacked up to 12 times. Additionally, for every 2 rounds of main gun firing, main gun property (HE and AP) is switched.

its the only ship that changes ammo right?

[stuck copper]

Nope actually

[clear gate]

Only CA that I know of, but there are some other ship types that do it

Massa

[stuck copper]

She's the only one that consistently does it

[clear gate]

for example

[stuck copper]

Like back and forth

[flat palm]

Ah

[stuck copper]

But others like massa

[carmine coyote]

https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/3387355

[stuck copper]

Do outright change ammo

To SHS rounds

Regardless of gun ammo

[flat palm]

Roon: Every 30 seconds: spawns 4 rotating shields that absorb 8 shots each; lasts 5 (15) seconds.
Prinz: am i a joke to you?

[steep scarab]

o yey

i can afford another PR rudder

[carmine coyote]

Well you are now Prinz

[stuck copper]

Yay

Terror and Erebus at skill 10

[flat palm]

it's such a powercreep from prinz skill lmao

[stuck copper]

Memes

[flat palm]

40% (70%) activation every 20 seconds: spawns 3 rotating shields that absorb 10 shots each; lasts 10 seconds.

[stuck copper]

Tbf

Look at all PR botes

[carmine coyote]

Apparently pairing Roon with Charlie is an interesting thing to do

[stuck copper]

They are basically normal botes

[flat palm]

actually needs to proc %, 1 less shield, lasts 5s shorter

[stuck copper]

Ramped up to an 11

Or at least a mixture of botes

Like how nep is basically phoenix + edinburgh

In 1 bote

[flat palm]

oh i wonder what roon's valentine gift line is

[clear gate]

Nep is also better at both of their jobs

[flat palm]

gna check

[stuck copper]

Lol

Big yikes

[clear gate]

The only drawback to Neptune is higher cost, but. Small price to pay for faster and more reliable clearing

[stuck copper]

Actually

There is no drawback

[carmine coyote]

But isn't Nep more costly though?

[stuck copper]

Because she's HMS

So you can use with QE

[flat palm]

The commander will receive Valentine chocolate, right? Speaking of which, I thought that it was a more a thing like "Who will give chocolate to the commander first?"

she knows

[clear gate]

Higher oil cost

[carmine coyote]

[stuck copper]

So you can actually buff her reliability

Since QE is probably the best buff in game

For a single stat boost buff

[steep scarab]

kinda tempted to oath erebus

[clear gate]

I didn't say that Neptune was less reliable? 😕

[stuck copper]

No I meant

She's better than phoenix and stuff in that sense

[flat palm]

Neptune is better, just costs more so you dont wna use her for lower lvl maps

basicly

[stuck copper]

Since you can actually make her way better

Just by using her with QE

As USS has no buffers like such

The fact QE is elite too

[clear gate]

Yah, USS doesn't really have buffers in the same league

[stuck copper]

Means she's not as costly as most SR BB's

[clear gate]

Bunker Hill, but... it's just not the same

[stuck copper]

And even then

That requires other BB's

If flag

Or has to be in side slot

And only works on DD's

[flat palm]

https://i.imgur.com/8W7Xx9E.png Has a ring reserved for roon

[stuck copper]

So it's gonna cost more oil

[flat palm]

im gonna die

[stuck copper]

As she needs at least 2-3 backline

To be useful

[clear gate]

Yah

Neptune's great

[stuck copper]

I plan to use her forever

@steep scarab Also I plan to oath both Erebus and Terror

Because they both deserve big love

[steep scarab]

i only like erebus tho

[flat palm]

my erebus is lvl 70 event slave

[stuck copper]

Lol

I oath all waifus

[steep scarab]

wew

[stuck copper]

They're higher level atm but I'm still farming them

[clear gate]

I have a bunch of ships at 110, then another bunch in the high 90s to low 100s, and then there's like a steady gradient down into low 60s because of the hundreds of comm slaves

[stuck copper]

My 100's atm

Still have a good few I want to level too

[flat palm]

err, lemme check mine lol

i have way 2many

[steep scarab]

it’s just rotting there for awhile

[flat palm]

use one ring on me @steep scarab

[clear gate]

I ran out of rings for now, but there's a good number of others I would ring if I had the chance

However, dock space took priority

[stuck copper]

I have

Way too many

I want to ring

[flat palm]

all my most used

[lone sinew]

I don't see leander

[stuck copper]

Lol

[flat palm]

shes abit under there at 100 reserved for neptune farm

[stuck copper]

The reason I have less in that sense is because

I have more at 110

And I farm with them post 110

For affection

[lone sinew]

not max affection with sandy smh

[clear gate]

I have 14 ships at 110 and a few that are quite close

[lone sinew]

[flat palm]

fucksandy

[stuck copper]

But Shark

I have so many botes to level

It takes a while

[flat palm]

id only ever use sandy when retrofitted to make ch 12 ez mode

i actually cant stand her

[lone sinew]

oh I meant aki

[stuck copper]

17 110 atm

[lone sinew]

[stuck copper]

Almost 18

Das rood

I use Sandy

"Can't stand her"

"Has her skin"

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[lone sinew]

[flat palm]

i got it from xmas bag

[stuck copper]

That's what they all say

[lone sinew]

[stuck copper]

[flat palm]

but i did!

[gritty hamlet]

I did as well actually

[clear gate]

52 of my ships are at least level 100

[gritty hamlet]

that bag is a curse

[stuck copper]

Tbf though

I never understand

[lone sinew]

Santa sandy legs tho

[stuck copper]

"Sandy is bad without Kai"

[lone sinew]

[stuck copper]

I've never had problems with her

[flat palm]

ive bought 5 bags ever and never got a skin i actually wanted from it

[stuck copper]

And I use her like

All the time

[cosmic pier]

the bags are 100% satisfying for me

[clear gate]

Sandy is outclassed without Kai, "bad" might be an overstatement considering 1) This is AL and 2) There are plenty rated lower than non-Kai Sandy

[cosmic pier]

never got a single skin I didnt want from all the 0 bags I've bought

10/10 product

[lone sinew]

wait noire has a skill that makes her main gun ignore armor type, wouldn't that make it op

[stuck copper]

Basically

Her skill

Is exactly the same as the Kitakaze if I recall

Finally, my long awaited paycheck

From PR

Like the exact same

The only bit different is the eff gain

But yeah

Basically it always does 115% damage

Regardless of the bote

Or it's armour

[lone sinew]

[clear gate]

The only ships I can think of that might actually be legitimately unusable are the bulins owing to their super low statline

[stuck copper]

Funny thing is

People cleared higher worlds

With bulins

[clear gate]

with bulins

of course they fucking did

[stuck copper]

[lone sinew]

[clear gate]

There you go. Everyone's usable

[stuck copper]

[lone sinew]

when bulin's skill activates in battle does it do anything?

[flat palm]

last bag i bought gave me this

[clear gate]

It does not

[lone sinew]

oh

[clear gate]

It actually doesn't do anything

[flat palm]

only skin i didnt want

[stuck copper]

It looks pretty

[lone sinew]

pulin shell skin when

[flat palm]

actually dont wna get yelled at for trophy

[stuck copper]

Old screenie don't hang me

[flat palm]

[stuck copper]

But yeah to prove my fan ness of non kai UR's

[lone sinew]

what does flooding do? is it like burn?

[carmine coyote]

Not sure if showing that was a trophy there though, but what do I know

[stuck copper]

I have their skills maxed oathed and level 110

"Several skills can cause flood. Flood lasts for 24 seconds, doing 8 ticks in total."

Think of it similar to burn

"Corresponding stat depends on which ship causes the flood. For example, U-81 would inflict flood damage based on Torpedo stat while Saratoga inflicts damage based on Airpower stat.

Flooding coefficients are as follows:"

[lone sinew]

tmw you are on fire and flooding

[stuck copper]

"Saratoga 0.2
U-81 0.45
Essex WIP"

[clear gate]

I used Leander well before we got her retrofit in EN

[lone sinew]

leander is great

[stuck copper]

I have sims ready for her kai too

[flat palm]

[clear gate]

Ah yes, my Sims is ready

[flat palm]

i cant do retrofits anymore

[lone sinew]

I think she is one of my few rare oathed

[flat palm]

if i want to do good research missions

everyday

[lone sinew]

[clear gate]

Sims was one of the "old guard" for me that I used very early on

[stuck copper]

For me

[lone sinew]

iirc

my first sr was warspite

[flat palm]

the first ship i used in this game was shropshire

now i hate her

[stuck copper]

She's 110 now btw

[regal reef]

Lemme check who were my oldest botes

[stuck copper]

But this is one of the first botes

That carried me through content

Early on

[clear gate]

I used both her and Lexington, they're both oathed

[stuck copper]

Yes me too

I just need to 200 Lex

Because it took me a while to get her unlike Sara

[clear gate]

I got Lex first

[stuck copper]

I whaled and got Sara

Am not disappoint

[regal reef]

There we go, Sims was my first roll

[stuck copper]

Lol

Good old Sims

That smug face

[clear gate]

Sims is actually hilarious

[carmine coyote]

Then HamHam took the spotlight from her

[regal reef]

I'm waiting on her retrofit

[stuck copper]

But now Wolfie

She will take it back

With her Kai

[carmine coyote]

[clear gate]

Guess what, Sims is also my first (surviving) roll

[stuck copper]

My first oath btw

[lone sinew]

hammann was my first retro

[stuck copper]

Was actually Minne

Then Sara

[clear gate]

I probably got a Crescent before Sims appeared though

[carmine coyote]

Forgot who I retroed first now

[lone sinew]

[stuck copper]

My first Kai

Was Laffey

[lone sinew]

bet it was a starter

[stuck copper]

Easily

[lone sinew]

[clear gate]

Leander first retrofit here, easy

[stuck copper]

Funny thing is I still haven't maxed her skills despite her being 100 love

[clear gate]

I have that situation with a few ships

[lone sinew]

[clear gate]

but not Laffey, I use her waaaaaay too much for that

[stuck copper]

I use her like

Never

Funnily enough

Despite being my first bote

If anything

I used these two the most

With Minne

[clear gate]

A good measure of usage stats is probably EXP accumulated

in which case

[stuck copper]

That's where you'd be wrong

Because NC for me probably has the most exp right now

[clear gate]

I didn't say perfect, I said "good"

[stuck copper]

She has the most because I used her a lot farm affection during the

What's the word

"Pre exp stacking"

So she ended up stacking a lot

While the botes I used all the time

Didn't get any stacked

[clear gate]

Lol 1.6 million over cap

[verbal obsidian]

Morning weebs

[clear gate]

How much from 110 to 120 again

[stuck copper]

2mil

[clear gate]

Oh, this is going to be easy

[stuck copper]

1mil to 100

1mil to 110

2mil to 120

For 4mil in total

[clear gate]

Sara is soooooo far ahead on exp over everyone else

[flat palm]

abit more

110>115 915k, 115>120 1385k

[clear gate]

Oh good, so I've already grinded to like... 117 maybe

[flat palm]

https://i.imgur.com/BFOuCtE.png

16k to 120 a ship

[stuck copper]

Don't forget

[flat palm]

[stuck copper]

CN / JP

[steep scarab]

welp i did it

[stuck copper]

Don't have same exp amounts

Cough

[flat palm]

you oathed erebus?

[flat palm]

Who are the other lucky two to get a ring

[vital edge]

I missed it, but langley was my first retro

Don't know why I did her first.

[steep scarab]

over 1 year of no new oathed ship has been broken

now 3 ships

[flat palm]

pfft

i have 26 wives

[steep scarab]

good for you

i only need few

[vital edge]

Good for you

[clear gate]

Good for you

[vital edge]

I got like 4

[flat palm]

[vital edge]

[clear gate]

Oh

I only said it because of the combo we had going on

[vital edge]

I would have a 5th and final one by now if I could just get Columbia

[clear gate]

I'm still going at 11-4

[vital edge]

I sorta gave up

it's not easy balancing oil and time there

Can't auto so went back for the ships i didn't get yet

[stuck copper]

They're still so adorbs together

[clear gate]

I have a good oil efficient auto fleet for 11-4 but due to PR, I sure am not using it lol

[stuck copper]

[clear gate]

It's a 34 oil mob fleet

[stuck copper]

Like you have to agree

How could one not want them together

[clear gate]

Yah, the monitors are all adorable

[stuck copper]

[clear gate]

When do we get Abercrombie and Roberts

[stuck copper]

Abercrumbs

[vital edge]

Hmm

[clear gate]

I hope the devs haven't forgotten Roberts

[stuck copper]

"Allthecrumbs"

[clear gate]

The type ship of her class

[vital edge]

What would it be like if real life warships fought each other with cannons for guns

just plain cannonball projectiles

[clear gate]

Assuming that cannon tech doesn't improve, probably about what would happen with early ironclad battles

Which is "nobody wins"

[vital edge]

would it even dent light armor?

[stuck copper]

Honestly

It depends

See the faster something goes

The more force it takes with it

[vital edge]

cannons don't have a very high top speed

[stuck copper]

So if it was fired out of a high speed cannon

[vital edge]

Umm

[clear gate]

Accuracy is also more of a concern with cannonballs

[vital edge]

high speed cannon?

[stuck copper]

Then it could theoretically do serious damage

[vital edge]

We're talking about armada cannons

[clear gate]

as they aren't as aerodynamic

[cosmic pier]

gotta go back in time and make the HMS navy make a third erebus class monitor

abercroms just doesnt cut it

[stuck copper]

You didn't specify the type of cannons actually

[cosmic pier]

[stuck copper]

You only said cannons

[vital edge]

I wouldn't want to bring some modern day experimental ones because then anything would go

[clear gate]

That's why I specified in my answer "assuming cannon tech doesn't improve"

[stuck copper]

Imagine a modern day cannon

No shells

Just cannon balls in modern day cannons

FIRE

[vital edge]

A plain ol' battleship main gun would count too if you just stick a bowling ball in it

[frank ingot]

[stuck copper]

Just punches a perfect circle in the ship

[vital edge]

high af happiness

[clear gate]

Well, that would definitely be significantly less effective than using shells

[stuck copper]

Mine is 401

[vital edge]

380

[frank ingot]

It doesnt budge from 80% anyway

Lol

[clear gate]

Mine is 411

[stuck copper]

Well it does somewhat but like

The gain is so slow

You can't really notice it

[clear gate]

Diminishing returns

[frank ingot]

Like every 50 now

😦

[stuck copper]

Yeah

[clear gate]

but you don't have anything better to use your decor tokens on anyway! So might as well

[vital edge]

it's limited by the calc

[stuck copper]

1 + 2 = a duck

[vital edge]

We won't see anything over 85% without some unrealistic number

[stuck copper]

Imagine

[frank ingot]

Oic

[stuck copper]

Comfort at 5000 or something

[clear gate]

I'm actually happy with Kizuna event decoration because the refrigerator is smaller than the one that came with the summer theme

which gives me a little more room to put stuff

[stuck copper]

I

[frank ingot]

Thanks for reminding me

[stuck copper]

Actually tend to buy everything from dorm stuff

[frank ingot]

Exchange furniture isnt up

In dorm

[stuck copper]

Hence why I have 401 already despite not playing as long as most

[vital edge]

at 5k, we'd have somewhere over 98%, I think

[clear gate]

So wait, you can't auto 11-4 @vital edge, what do you use

[stuck copper]

[vital edge]

I don't trust my ships is all

[stuck copper]

2 more clears of SP4

And then it's finally into clearing mode

So I can spam

[clear gate]

I have quite steady 11-4 auto with that 34 oil 2:1 mob fleet I described

[stuck copper]

Expensive oil for this for real

[vital edge]

I'd like to hear it

I'll see if I can do it

My choice for ships is kinda limited rn

I mostly played the ones I liked first

[stuck copper]

I just play what I enjoy

[vital edge]

The one I'm most limited with is CA's

[stuck copper]

CA's are

The worst unless they're 100+

[vital edge]

Port or bust

[stuck copper]

Or have the PR item

They really need the evade so badly

Or they just melt

[clear gate]

Amagi + Vestal + Phoenix clears most of the time, with bad RNG having potential to screw it over on rare occasions. SG radar and fire extinguisher on Amagi.

Can replace Vestal with Akashi and probably Phoenix with Minny. Avoid fighting more than 1 or 2 large main fleets since doing any more will threaten the run

[vital edge]

Replacing Vestal with Akashi might not be a good idea, as I see it

[clear gate]

The only time this gets fucked is if you're basically seeing only large main fleet mobs

[vital edge]

I don't have Vestal on level either way

[clear gate]

It totally worked for me

[vital edge]

Uhhh

[clear gate]

and Vestal's level doesn't have to be that high, as long as she doesn't die

[vital edge]

large main fleet mobs is the specific reason why I don't trust my girls

They're everywhere after w9

[clear gate]

This fleet can handle 1 or 2 of them and still be healthy enough to clear

but it's shaky

so you want to avoid them if you can help it

[vital edge]

I'll worry about once I at least get Houshou then Maya

I've been dealing with bad drop RNG since I started

[clear gate]

That SG radar is really necessary, since otherwise the fleet is total ambush bait

[frank ingot]

Damn i hit 1mil

24hr waiting room

[clear gate]

It's still kinda ambush bait since its recon value is horrible, but at least with SG radar, you can evade pretty consistently

and that helps a lot

[vital edge]

The SG radar is worth mentioning?

It's a default, isn't it?

[clear gate]

I mean you never know, I'm sure some people wouldn't consider it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vital edge]

It gives hit, evasion, and ambush resistance

[stuck copper]

I'm glad though Revy

Playing through

I got 5 of them

And I haven't even entered the harder worlds yet

[vital edge]

"Why would anyone not?" is what i would ask, but there's always that one retard...

I have 4 exactly.

[clear gate]

But anyway yeah. Fire extinguisher might seem redundant on Amagi, who already has fire resistance, but trust me it helps against the large main fleets

[vital edge]

if you're not using a fire suppressor after w10, you gonna die

w11 is just w10 but harder

[clear gate]

This fleet is super slow, so it can get pelted pretty hard and the fire damage can really rack up

Phoenix is potato, so you're really just sitting and waiting for Amagi's barrage to proc and wipe the screen

[vital edge]

It pays to have any carrier in a fleet afaik

The recon just matters more at that point

I really don't have time to press that evade button every 5 seconds

[clear gate]

For time efficiency it does pay off. For this oil efficient fleet, I couldn't figure out how to cram in a carrier. Unicorn/Shouhou's inability to heal the backline does make this fleet much less reliable

[vital edge]

You tried putting navy camo?

[clear gate]

On who exactly

[vital edge]

There's no point stacking avi that late in seeing as the devs thought that gimping CV damage the further you go totally mixes things up

So may as well throw in an extinguisher and camo for both

[clear gate]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stuck copper]

Well currently no

Until we get air superiority

[vital edge]

Doesn't air superiority only make CV's more relevant?

It only changes incoming damage

[clear gate]

Right now though I'm not using the 34-oil fleet for 11-4, instead I'm using a monstrous 51 oil thing to grind PR

[stuck copper]

No it buffs their damage too

[vital edge]

Ooh

[stuck copper]

Because they realized

[vital edge]

about damn time

[stuck copper]

That CV's suck eggs

For damage

In high worlds

[vital edge]

Why did they think that reducing plane dmg with AA was better than having aerial dogfights?

[stuck copper]

"Increase aerial damage dealt by 20%, decrease aerial damage taken by 10%, increase hit by 10%, and decrease the ambush rate by 8%"

[clear gate]

Part of the reason why CVs have been wonky in AL is because they operate within range of things like suicide boats and enemy battleships

[stuck copper]

Yeah it also decreases the ambush rate too

[clear gate]

IRL CVs would be miles and miles away and all you would see is planes

[vital edge]

Hmm, nah that ain't it

CV's just outright suck because they depreciate as you progress in the campaign

[stuck copper]

I think Revy means from a lore perspective

[vital edge]

and I also mean real life reference

[stuck copper]

Like actual CV's in war

[vital edge]

CV's are supposed to be cutting edge

not blunted edge

[stuck copper]

Would never be anywhere near the fight

[clear gate]

If they could help it, yeah

[stuck copper]

Being near the fight was a death sentence for a CV

Cause they didn't have the FP to fight off a BB or other botes

[vital edge]

AL's rule is that "you must be within a 100 feet of the enemy at all times"

[stuck copper]

Ironically though

Essex is still a great CV in high worlds

[clear gate]

Even then CVs almost never sortied without a good escort surrounding them

[lone sinew]

[vital edge]

Like Ark?

[stuck copper]

Since she nerfs damage coming to the fleet

[vital edge]

[stuck copper]

Being able to get things like

Torps

And make them do 1 damage

Is just hilariously funny

[clear gate]

North Carolina is the unsung hero in Enterprise's story

[vital edge]

Oh, yeah

since you brought that up

Why do I sometimes see 0 damage on ships?

[lone sinew]

enty had subs, destroyers, cruisers as a shield around it

[stuck copper]

Which ships?

[vital edge]

It's not a miss and it's regardless of stage, level, or armor class

[stuck copper]

My guess

[vital edge]

it's just outright 0 dmg from time to time for one hit

[stuck copper]

Shield like lusty's

[vital edge]

none

i don't use Lusty

[stuck copper]

No I mean

Something like

Does this happen on your botes btw?

Or enemy botes

[vital edge]

Mine

Sometimes on a CA

[stuck copper]

High or low worlds

[vital edge]

sometimes on a DD

Again, stage doesn't matter

w11 0 dmg catches me by surprise all the time

[stuck copper]

Are the weps ineffective damage type?

[vital edge]

I can't tell

[stuck copper]

Because look at it like this

[vital edge]

it's still glowing red

[stuck copper]

If they hit with a shot

And half damage

Makes it 0

Then it might be possible

[vital edge]

I would believe that be the case if it didn't happen in w11 too

[stuck copper]

I do know what you mean though

What fleet do you use?

[vital edge]

I have this gut feeling that the game can't decide if it should be a miss or a number

It happens to absolutely any ship

[stuck copper]

And your fleets change everytime right

There's no common denominator

[vital edge]

All the time, yes

[stuck copper]

Hmm

I'd assume it might be

[vital edge]

It's not like it shows 0 all the time

[stuck copper]

Actually

Here's an important question

[vital edge]

It's rare, but it's hard to miss seeing as single digit damage is super rare

[stuck copper]

Does it happen more often

To high luck botes?

[vital edge]

Hmm, i didn't pay attention to that

[stuck copper]

Cause the thing is

Some botes

Like Ykk

[vital edge]

Does luck do anything to damage intake?

[stuck copper]

Have insanely high luck

Yes

Luck is huge

When it comes to it alongside acc

[flat palm]

crit % chance mainly

[stuck copper]

It's why botes like

Enty

Are so god tier

[vital edge]

I know crit, but raw damage?

[flat palm]

just crit chance, accuracy and evasion iirc

[stuck copper]

Yeah the damage formula itself

Is affected by luck

[vital edge]

I remember not seeing any luck in the damage calcs

[stuck copper]

A lot of people don't know that

[vital edge]

Okay

[flat palm]

[vital edge]

I'll take your word for it

[flat palm]

first i hear of it

[vital edge]

Same here, tbh

[stuck copper]

"Attacker Hit Rate = 0.1 + Attacker Acc. / (Attacker Acc + Defender Eva. +2) + (Attacker Luck - Defender Luck + level difference) *0.001 - extra eva rate"

[vital edge]

I don't think he has any reason to lie though

[stuck copper]

See

[vital edge]

hit rate

I asked about raw damage

[stuck copper]

No but the point

Was luck affects it

[vital edge]

just crit chance, accuracy and evasion iirc```
it was already established that luck included that

[stuck copper]

So there might be other hidden things it might do

[vital edge]

The wiki would have it if it did

[stuck copper]

I mean luck in most games

Tends to have hidden things

[vital edge]

A lot of people have already datamined the game

[stuck copper]

If the game was entirely datamined though

The 0 damage

Would have been explained

[vital edge]

There's also the very high possibility it's just a bug again

[stuck copper]

I doubt that

[vital edge]

You've seen what's been happening lately, right?

[stuck copper]

No but that

Has existed since long before it

[vital edge]

It has?

[stuck copper]

Yes

[vital edge]

So i'm not the only one seeing 0 dmg?

[stuck copper]

I've seen it a few times

[vital edge]

Ah

[stuck copper]

It's definitely a weird thing to happen

Not entirely sure what causes it

[vital edge]

I only began noticing it when i had the luxury to auto just about any stage

That was like after sept

[stuck copper]

Yeah

It's been here a while

Couldn't tell you what causes it exactly though

[desert harness]

0 damage happens

usually in pvp

sometimes damage reduction/rng work together and make your damage nothing

[vital edge]

I don't see it often there myself

It's only happened about twice there since Aug

Lemme check the known bugs channel for a bit

[stuck copper]

I mean

The prinz skin thing

Is apparently a bug

Yet it still exists

[vital edge]

You mean the layering error?

[stuck copper]

The one were we have the censored one

[vital edge]

oh that

What skin had an issue with the HUD?

[stuck copper]

Yeah that's not intended lol

It is supposed to be the JP ver

That's been there for months to boot

[vital edge]

and loooool, Warspite's skill can't target light armored ships

that's a new bug

[stuck copper]

Warspooder lol

[vital edge]

Not like she could hit anything with that armor anyway

[stuck copper]

I do like my bei spooder

[vital edge]

alright, nothing within the first 10 pages of search, so it either really is old or not even a bug

[stuck copper]

Told ya

[vital edge]

It's not a big issue, and I actually appreciate the 0 dmg main gun salvos

But it still makes me wonder

[stuck copper]

I can understand that

[flat palm]

And now, we wait

[cosmic pier]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/466250908682944522/575308360241512468/FB_IMG_1557234536616.jpg?width=656&height=656

lel

[dim crystal]

hm

I have 1.7k oil atm

[verbal obsidian]

Wow this isnt #461381136661217283

[dim crystal]

yea

[verbal obsidian]