avrora-general

[ornate mantle]

🙏

[wintry sonnet]

oh nice

you can get manjuus from sos signals

[verbal obsidian]

Its ok friends im back

no crying

[flat palm]

yaaay zui

[cosmic pier]

no one was crying tho

you aint that significant

[wintry sonnet]

I was

I cri everitiem

not cause of hitagi tho, fuck that guy

[cosmic pier]

recon fleets look like they overdoses this event

[ornate mantle]

I was also crying zui.

Glad to see you back.

[toxic scroll]

Akagi-chan

took too many cubes

i guess i deserve it at this point honestly

[ornate mantle]

How many.

[toxic scroll]

140

i got two of the others

plenty of SSRs

at least 8 SSRs

i got U-81 too i guess

[ornate mantle]

Nice.

[toxic scroll]

and last longer dangit

bye inazuma and ikazuchi

your dorm spots are being revoked

selling oil

[ornate mantle]

I can't waste all this oil.

[toxic scroll]

how much you got

[ornate mantle]

Down to 20k now.

[toxic scroll]

nice

[ornate mantle]

From 21k.

[toxic scroll]

lmao

[ornate mantle]

The oil.

Is holding me back from accessing my other emergency funds.

[toxic scroll]

buy dorm food

more dorm food

[ornate mantle]

So I'm just gonna farm like a maniac and dive right back into special.

[toxic scroll]

idk

[ornate mantle]

Ew.

Never again wasting oil like that.

[toxic scroll]

wasting oil

[ornate mantle]

Valuable shit to farm, lmao.

[toxic scroll]

is buying the first 3

[ornate mantle]

Oh.

You mean the first three dorm foods.

[toxic scroll]

the 5% exp food is oil

that's the only one worth buying

[ornate mantle]

I still have 100+ of all the premium food.

[toxic scroll]

if you buy dormfood

[ornate mantle]

And like 800+ oxycola.

I'm set on food.

[toxic scroll]

i recently used all my big exp food

seriously though

are they gonna like, swap the rate ups on special build eventually

i'm not building it

but still

elegant being .5%

[clear gate]

Why would they

Elegant is in exchange

[toxic scroll]

oh is she

didn't know that

ok

speaking of

gotta retire the rare kizuna

[vital edge]

So question

Do the lolis have any historical reference?

[toxic scroll]

like why they're lolis?

prolly not

[clear gate]

I am not aware of any

[vital edge]

And they're part of the main collection?

[dense wing]

I think akagi mentions "I should technically be a battlecruiser"

[toxic scroll]

i believe yes

[vital edge]

Color me surprised

[toxic scroll]

i personally consider akagi-chan and BC akagi as different ships

[vital edge]

and here I thought the main collection was for historically accurate counterparts.

[toxic scroll]

BB Kaga

while she did exist in concept

[cosmic pier]

[vital edge]

There's an event clarifying exactly that between the time Amagi was crushed and Akagi replaced her.

Right?

[toxic scroll]

i mean the event that we got amagi

explained it

[vital edge]

Also, unrelated note

What were the devs thinking?

[toxic scroll]

yeah

i don't like it

either

[vital edge]

If this was supposed to be a meme, it's in pretty bad taste.

[toxic scroll]

also

so where's that sub exp supposed to be at

hmm

tapping brought me back to SP1

[ornate mantle]

What.

[toxic scroll]

they still aren't getting exp

do you have to call them?

if so, that's such a stupid mechanic for getting them exp

[clear gate]

You have to call them @toxic scroll

[toxic scroll]

that's so dumb

w/e

[clear gate]

I don't mind the giant Kizuna Ai meme

[toxic scroll]

i don't really care for it

i'm auto'ing and alt tabbing anyways

i do mind the music though

no thanks

i'll take the boring normal AL fight music

[wintry sonnet]

I mean if you dont call them in, they wont consume the oil

the whole idea is you're supposed to spend oil to get exp

otherwise everyone in your dock or at least all the fleets you use would have to get exp indiscriminately

even your boss fleet that doesnt do more than 1 battle

[toxic scroll]

it makes more sense that if you want to use them or not, you just select an option on the map

not having to actually call them in battle

to me at least

not everyone is gonna think of it like that

[wintry sonnet]

I'm not sure I follow the logic

you mean you want an option for the subs to be deployed right at the start of battle if you want?

[next onyx]

alright, alright, alright, I'm home. Time to roll some shipfus

[wintry sonnet]

as in automatically

[next onyx]

How has everyone's luck been so far?

[wintry sonnet]

you know what a bucket of piss is

picture that and that's my luck today

[next onyx]

nooo

[ornate mantle]

@next onyx : brother, all Kizuna and Zeppy in 160 cubes.

[next onyx]

oh, right, it's the same person that whaled on subs

[clear gate]

My luck? Poor. But that's okay, it's only day one

[ornate mantle]

I’d say my luck is... average at best.

Started off strong.

[next onyx]

@ornate mantle Not bad overall

[toxic scroll]

@wintry sonnet i mean like an option you turn on/off before you actually fight a enemy fleet, or on a stage map

[stuck copper]

i had decent luck

[ornate mantle]

I still need to dive into special for Akagi-Chan and Hiei-Chan.

Obviously subs are still there too.

But I don’t expect to get them.

I got SSR spooked too many times.

[toxic scroll]

Akagi-chan eluded me the most

[warm bluff]

i'm not a huge fan of normal akagi, but akagi-chan's voicelines are too good

[toxic scroll]

akagi-chan with amagi fanart

is 100% wholesome

[ornate mantle]

I need an Amagi Chan now.

[wintry sonnet]

I got to Black-SP

now to figure out a fleet for this shit

[clear gate]

I just cleared BSP

[verbal obsidian]

[next onyx]

lol imagine loli amagi coughing

[wintry sonnet]

what's the enemy level on it rev?

[clear gate]

105

[wintry sonnet]

oof

[stuck copper]

amagi, minnie, phoenix | dork, ijn torp did it for me

[wintry sonnet]

so we goin speznaz then

[verbal obsidian]

O cal is alive

[wintry sonnet]

oh, one of the 3* requirements is to go under 8 ships

[stuck copper]

yes, that's for <8

[wintry sonnet]

now, I wonder...

when they say 8 ships, do they mean you can only sortie 8 ships total

[clear gate]

No, it triggers if one of your fleets dies and you clear with a 3:3 in the end

for example

[wintry sonnet]

or it's Crimson Echoes BS logic where you have to sortie with more than needed

[stuck copper]

@verbal obsidian sorry, i haven't felt like socializing. been playing other stuff.

[wintry sonnet]

and then retreat one fleet

[verbal obsidian]

[clear gate]

The 8 ship requirement can be cleared with BS logic

[toxic scroll]

that was CE i think yeah

that was bugged

[wintry sonnet]

so I just throw in two full fleets

retreat one before boss

and get 3*s in one go

[flat palm]

im at 4.5k/10k for belchan atm

[wintry sonnet]

[clear gate]

As far as I am aware, you just need to have less than 8 ships at the end

[stuck copper]

i cleared it with 7, but I didn't get credit until i restarted the game. someone make sense of that.

[wintry sonnet]

well that makes it easy

[warm bluff]

wait you can cheese the 8 ship thing by doing that? i had to manual since i only had 4 ships on boss fleet

[wintry sonnet]

that's how you had to do crimson echoes, remember

you couldn't even sortie with 4 ships only

stat requirements wouldn't let you

[warm bluff]

oh the ex mode?

[wintry sonnet]

you had to throw a 2nd fleet and then retreat them before boss fight

yea

[warm bluff]

i never bother to 3 star ex modes, i just try to go for a high score

[wintry sonnet]

I 3* everything as long as I haven't 3*d it in the past

hence why in VDIR rerun I only 3*ed the EX fight

(and normal mode cuz 3* rewards)

[warm bluff]

i reset way too many times on the ce ex mode, i just couldn't be bothered to do it again lol

and i didn't even manage to get a good score

[clear gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHggF_dYTgw

Just use closed captions on automatic translate if you can't understand P:

[wintry sonnet]

right, I need to setup my speznaz team

[clear gate]

Lol Kizuna AI getting beaten by her own collab event

[wintry sonnet]

do I go for 420 memes or do I go for "fuck it, just bomb the shit out of it"

how many trash mobs are there in total btw

[clear gate]

I wasn't paying attention

I didn't end up 3*ing because the mob fleet I used wiped lolol

Gotta optimize better

[toxic scroll]

meme it

[wintry sonnet]

hm

[toxic scroll]

but remember

i'm the same person using a 3:3 on sp1

and sp2

[clear gate]

The boss isn't hard, just make sure you build well

[wintry sonnet]

Shoukaku, Duke, either Vestal or Houshou, Concord, Louie and nimi

would be my meme fleet

if they were all 110 already

[clear gate]

For the boss fleet, I just used the one I already use for 11-4 and it did perfectly fine

I figured "well that one is optimized for level 105 so it should be fine"

[wintry sonnet]

yeah I imagine if I sent chinaball it'd be fine, but I wanna fuck around a bit this time

kinda like I did a bit with neptunia ex

the fabled "Germans protecc but also attac"

still find it hilarious Nimi outdamaged Enty

she wasn't even lvl 100

fuck her skill was lvl 5 only

[carmine coyote]

Enty probably didn't have fast planes equipped

[toxic scroll]

not proccing is all it takes really

[wintry sonnet]

yeah I'm leaning more towards the latter

she had fully upgraded gold setup by then

[toxic scroll]

stat wise she's just a normal CV tbh

her skill is what makes her do insane damage (obviously)

[clear gate]

Her statline is good, but there's nothing remarkable to speak of without her skill

[wintry sonnet]

she's pretty much a slave to her skill

[toxic scroll]

i mean i'll still use her without it

because i think she cute

[wintry sonnet]

which works fine early to mid game when you just need a bunker buster

but later down the line when synergy plays a huge role, well

USS ain't really that much about synergy for the most part

theres a few ships that work well together in Eagle union

but not really an entire fleet

[toxic scroll]

wash/sodak

is prolly the biggest one

and it's only eachother

not the whole fleet

minus SoDaks absorb skill thing

[clear gate]

Bunker Hill, but we don't have yet

[toxic scroll]

however it works

[wintry sonnet]

yeah Bunker Hill does bring alot of that

[tough burrow]

future base is so chill, especially instrumental on event map

[wintry sonnet]

I know I run the risk of repeating

but if we can clearly have such kickass soundtracks for events and collabs

why is the base game soundtrack such ass

[tough burrow]

beats me

[wintry sonnet]

I just dont get it, I try to get it every time but I just dont understand why ost in al seems like such an afterthought for the base content

give us a boss theme every chapter, we already gonna do great

or at least for the big name bosses

[tough burrow]

we have only what

[wintry sonnet]

like maya, choukai etc

[tough burrow]

Poi and foxmines?

[clear gate]

We have... Yuudachi

yeah

[wintry sonnet]

do foxmines even have own track?

[tough burrow]

ye

[clear gate]

They do

[wintry sonnet]

I haven't fought them so long I dont even remember

[tough burrow]

I like poi theme more, but it's fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqBDvN78lXQ

Akagi and Kaga boss battle

[wintry sonnet]

wait, that's the 3-4 theme?

[clear gate]

Yes

[wintry sonnet]

I could've sworn I heard that tune like all over the place

[tough burrow]

It's rabbits, not foxes there

[wintry sonnet]

this can't be just 1 map soundtrack

[clear gate]

It is not

but it's associated most with 3-4

[wintry sonnet]

yeah because people spend their lifetime there

but I wouldn't call it a 3-4 boss theme

Yuudachi's is a boss theme

[tough burrow]

it is

[wintry sonnet]

you dont have that play anywhere else, you hear poi theme, you know you're in 6-4

[tough burrow]

but I'm not sure where else it's used

because this one is basic boss battle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSy2oBUtvKE

[clear gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGeCG6gD7Y0 Yuudachi theme definitely better though

[tough burrow]

yep

[wintry sonnet]

yeaaa, that's the good shit

or the one from crimson echoes boss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_iQR8OaL28

makes you actually wanna go off autobattle

[tough burrow]

I like how poi actually works

or the one from crimson echoes boss it's for something else originally

[wintry sonnet]

I doubt you'd be able to erase the connection between Yuudachi and Poi at this point

[tough burrow]

some promo video

[next onyx]

Ran out of gold at 140 cubes spent. Got Zeppy, Akagi-Chan and all subs except I-26. The way this is going I may just stick to pulling for Hiei. Don't really care for Kizuna

[wintry sonnet]

and yea I know it's originally been from a promo trailer

but still, it is a boss theme and you dotn hear it play anywhere else in game

so I think it counts

[clear gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlgKaJYgIzY

Winter's Crown also very good

[wintry sonnet]

I kinda liked WC's map theme more than the boss one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA27B7kwTro&list=PLRw0mtDd3OqWKBbt7fjOJ1u3RPSP8d13U&index=9

[clear gate]

The map theme's good too

[wintry sonnet]

it has a sense of urgency about it

like you're about to step into a bloodbath

the boss one that is

the map theme's more of a "We're heading to fight our enemies for the glory of our kingdom"

[clear gate]

Yeah I get that

[wintry sonnet]

again, why

They clearly have good composers over at yostar

pay them some more

let them do shit

even fkin KC has like 5-6 tracks per event and then they keep throwing in new homescreen tunes

you clearly can put up a fight

so faito

[clear gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_K8tQHj2XE

[wintry sonnet]

anyone remembers this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA-IhpV_P_g&list=PLRw0mtDd3OqWKBbt7fjOJ1u3RPSP8d13U&index=10

[clear gate]

Yah

[dense wing]

ohh I love kokyo active neets

[wintry sonnet]

was this even a boss theme for Fallen Wings

[dense wing]

they make really good touhou covers too

[wintry sonnet]

actually did Fallen Wings even have a boss theme

[clear gate]

It did, it had that really loud blaring one

[wintry sonnet]

I remember it had its own map theme

[clear gate]

FW's boss theme was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiIkoFdanx8

[wintry sonnet]

ah yea ,this

oh, dood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BtFtNLOLug&list=PLRw0mtDd3OqWKBbt7fjOJ1u3RPSP8d13U&index=20

My body is so ready for France to join up

this makes me Viva La France so hard

[clear gate]

🤔

[tough burrow]

this reminds me of guilty gear OST somewhat

[next onyx]

So we have to grind seperate maps for event points for both events? That's some bs. I hate these two events at the same time. Has anyone come up with the most oil efficient maps to grind on for both events?

[wintry sonnet]

Bel event you only need 10k thankfully so you can just go for whichever map above chapter 6 you can do on lowest oil costs

[verbal obsidian]

[wintry sonnet]

or you can just do your sos signals and get it that way

then compliment yourself with whichever map you need to farm

[tough burrow]

they took bad parts of both original and rerun Belette events

and combined them

Original was 2 weeks but had missions, rerun didn't, but game more points and was 1 month long

we have 2 weeks with no missions (but higher point drops)

[wintry sonnet]

to their credit tho, they did give us the PR prints that weren't there on the OG run

[next onyx]

so we get less time, with no missions. Brilliant!

[tough burrow]

Almost certainly an oversight, same with Kizuna not giving points

I already contacted them, let's hope they'll asnwer

[wintry sonnet]

maybe they'll hotfix it or sth on monday, who knows

certainly seemed like something we should expect after how sara event worked

but then again we already know they dont edit previous events to include new mechanics

proof being not being able to use subs in nagato event

just cause OG didnt have subs out on JP

rerun did allow you to sortie them tho

[clear gate]

I don't mind it too much. 8k pt and 10k pt aren't that bad respectively

[wintry sonnet]

it's not the worst and there's some good stuff to be had

but yea it's annoying you have ot pick and choose

[clear gate]

2.5 weeks should be plenty of time imo

Annoying, definitely

but not game-breaking imo

[next onyx]

plenty for those who don't work all day or play on their phones while working

[wintry sonnet]

now two separate construction pools on the other hand

phew, got my gensui

had to burn all resets on 4/5 cause I got nothing but shit, but it worked out

[tough burrow]

I have bigger problem with them not including in patchnotes that loli ships will be added to perma at a later date tbf

[wintry sonnet]

wait, so they're not like belette?

[next onyx]

@tough burrow They will?

[wintry sonnet]

just a flavor of the season ships you can get from time to time?

[tough burrow]

from JP

[wintry sonnet]

uh...

why am I suddenly worried

about that "other ships will appear in the pool" part

[tough burrow]

why?

[wintry sonnet]

what do they mean

[tough burrow]

as in

[wintry sonnet]

this doesnt sound good

[tough burrow]

"not exclusively lolis"

but other ships are still there

[wintry sonnet]

ok, so it doesnt mean "We're gonna throw more limited shit during/right after this"

cause that's what I kinda imagined this meant

[tough burrow]

just so idiots won't think it's exclusively them

[wintry sonnet]

why would anyone assume they'd remove all the other ships

and leave just those 3

wut

[tough burrow]

Better safe than sorry I guess

same with " Please construct in consideration of your resources."

[wintry sonnet]

wow, JP doesnt have it any easier lol

[tough burrow]

so people won't whine about "I used all my cubes and got nothing"

[verbal obsidian]

I used all my cubes and got nothing

[tough burrow]

same

[next onyx]

how much is all?

[tough burrow]

well, I got 1 AI and 81

[wintry sonnet]

hey, I rolled for subs with full responsibility that Nagato event was around the corner

[verbal obsidian]

I only had 160 left

[wintry sonnet]

I just didnt expect 2 separate buildign pools right after that

[verbal obsidian]

Last event ate 400

[wintry sonnet]

one of them being special

nobody could've looked at the in-game email they sent as a warning around the time subs were added and considered "Oh they dont mean Nagato event, they mean the special limited build after that"

I was fully ready to get rekt on Nagato after spending 100 cubes before that

[dense wing]

ive only used around 30 on both clients so far

a lot more to spend..

[wintry sonnet]

kawa, you mentioned something earlier and I wanna confirm to make sure I understood it

there's some part of the content we got that was meant to be up for a month, no?

or at least it was speculated that it's going to be up for a whole month

[dense wing]

hmmm its speculated that little belfast's event is 1 month only I believe

but ours is 2 weeks?

[tough burrow]

[wintry sonnet]

by which you mean just the manjuu farming bit, right?

[wintry sonnet]

I'm still confused as to how the lolis aren't part of this whole operation manjuu tbh

[tough burrow]

because they just don't?

[dense wing]

is a separate event

[tough burrow]

we just have it at the same time on EN

[wintry sonnet]

it's just weird to me that we have this whole event about an adult shipgirl getting lolified, that isn't named after her or anything

and then the same moment we get 3 new lolis and they just dont have anything to do with it

[dense wing]

well... no other client has operation manjuu right now

[wintry sonnet]

yeah that's what made me think they were connected somehow

but JP had its rerun in October or sth

it's just such a weird timing on our side

[dense wing]

its not weird timing, im sure its intentional because they feature similar ships

[tough burrow]

don't think it is

more like

[wintry sonnet]

but we wouldn't have gotten little bel in the first place

if PR wasnt fucked

no?

we would've propably gotten her after the collab

[tough burrow]

it was out with PR1 originally I think

on JP

[wintry sonnet]

why call it an apology event then

[dense wing]

might of just been planned?

[tough burrow]

and lolis are with PR2

make a connection

[dense wing]

I dont think anyone is

[tough burrow]

[dense wing]

its just we're getting it for now

since its working and in order

[tough burrow]

apology probably in terms of news

I think

[wintry sonnet]

yeah, I'm referring to that reveal tweet

[dense wing]

compensation event

[tough burrow]

ye, kawa, they said it's as a compensation

[wintry sonnet]

I mean granted, we still got a long way to go in terms of communication

but this does make it seem like we got little bel faster than planned because PR don goofd

[dense wing]

I see in that post it just sounds like "its ok the event is fine so we'll just put that out k bye"

[tough burrow]

[ornate mantle]

[tough burrow]

ye, it doesn't say directly it's instead of PR or is apology and wouldn't be coming otherwise

can be seen both ways I guess

[wintry sonnet]

basically a schrodinger's apology

until they say it themselves it may or may not be

[tough burrow]

more like "PR is fucked, but it's not that bad"

"here's anouncement of another event you want"

[dense wing]

[wintry sonnet]

for me it was that however part that made me think it's an apology event

like "Yes, we have to pospone the PR update, however we got something in its place"

[tough burrow]

"however something still coming"

[wintry sonnet]

they said they got their hands on little bel which obvious inappropriate joke aside, sounded like they got the dev team to put her up as a replacement for the time being

but yea, it's gonna be down to personal interpretation one way or the other

[dense wing]

I didnt even read it that way until you said that and I was like ?? and so I reread it and

[tough burrow]

I still think it can be read both ways, but not sure what even the point of this argument

[wintry sonnet]

just some mental exercise

[next onyx]

After Nagato event, let's have not one but TWO events with separate banners. Not only that but two separate event currencies on different maps. I don't know what the dev team are thinking anymore. Meh, I may be being negative, but I have been burned by so many gachas at this point that start off generous. If they start to show any type of greed, I am not spending a dime anymore.

[verbal obsidian]

[wintry sonnet]

I dont think greed was neccessarily intent here, rather they already tasted what EN backlash is like

so when the PR issues arose, they wanted to temper people's expectations ahead of time

by PR I mean both PR and research ships

[tough burrow]

I know for a fact they want to give all the same events JP gets

[next onyx]

how? by rushing two events? great way to temper our expectations lol

[tough burrow]

because it's more fun to play new content instead of reading about it

it's literally same thing on JP

[wintry sonnet]

I get the whole catching up argument, but I think a better option would be to use all those mini-events that are low on cube spending or have none of it to fill in

[tough burrow]

no idea what the big idea is

[wintry sonnet]

also JP and EN are a complete different audience

one look at rankings is all it takes

even on OG Avrora, you get at most 20 people who reach the 100k points in an event

I doubt JP doesnt easily fill in on the top 100 with people doing 150% of that

add in that Global has to cater not to just one kind of audience, but effectively all the audiences

with varying ranges and degrees of engagement or spending habits

you get a pretty explosive concoction

[verbal obsidian]

ye u tell em restart

(Im not even reading everything)

[tough burrow]

nice contribution, Zui

[wintry sonnet]

I concede

[tough burrow]

you tried

[wintry sonnet]

[clear gate]

Here's a fun fact. If you're efficient, you actually make a net gain if you buy all the oil from the Kizuna Ai exchange and then use it to refarm

It's not smart but you can

It costs 2250 event pt to buy all the oil, and that gives you 5000 oil

My fleet for example costs 175 oil for SP3 SP4 - therefore 175 oil per 120 pt. With 5000 oil, I will make about 3400 pt

It takes a lot of time though

Hence I don't consider it smart

[wintry sonnet]

wait, you're grinding SP3 already?

[clear gate]

Yes?

[wintry sonnet]

isn't SP3 still fucked

as in sometimes you dont get the points

[clear gate]

I haven't seen that yet

[wintry sonnet]

keep an eye out

I've certainly noticed that happening

oh yea rev

about Black-SP

anything I need to know about trash mobs?

is there burning nonsense going on

[clear gate]

You mean like

fire?

[wintry sonnet]

aye

[clear gate]

I wasn't paying attention lol, I was just brainlessly autoing

[wintry sonnet]

well shit

[stuck copper]

your vanguard will burn, yes

[clear gate]

That sounds about right

[tough burrow]

SP3 is really weird

it just doesn't give points sometimes

[wintry sonnet]

hmm, sounds like a job for Coughey Kingston

[tough burrow]

more like

sometimes it does

why farm SP3 over SP4 anyway

[vital edge]

Makes me wonder what the trigger for not getting points is

[clear gate]

I said SP3 and meant SP4 🦊

[wintry sonnet]

you get purple plates still but you can easily roll lb0 fleet

[clear gate]

because I am dumb

[tough burrow]

I'm not using LB0 fleets

[clear gate]

In SP4 I'm using Amagi+Phoenix for mobs and something a bit heavier for boss

and that's where my 175 oil cost is coming from

[tough burrow]

I'm using Nougat + PortKai

and Kizuna BB, to farm levels

[wintry sonnet]

amagi phoenix is what, 27 oil?

[tough burrow]

but she's LB0

[clear gate]

24 oil

[wintry sonnet]

ah

hm

my SP3 fleet cost me 16 oil

and it's a difference of 80 to 120 points

[clear gate]

So my cost for SP4 is

10 + 5*24 + 45 = 175

[wintry sonnet]

granted I'm not using cheapest ones

I'm rolling ships that I'm affection farming

[clear gate]

175 isn't amazing but it's not bad either

[wintry sonnet]

you have to do 6 battles on SP4 no?

[clear gate]

No, not if you route properly

You only need to do 5

[wintry sonnet]

then I was doing shit wrong all this time

[clear gate]

You just have to crash your way through a zillion warning squares

to do the 5 mob route

So, 5 + boss

[wintry sonnet]

wait, is one of the waifus not a requirement?

cause you got 2 out in the open and 2 behind gatekeepers

[clear gate]

Shoukaku optional

[wintry sonnet]

...

fuck

[tough burrow]

5 + 1 = 6 tho

[wintry sonnet]

I didnt know ok

[clear gate]

Ok you know what I meant Restart

[wintry sonnet]

I just kill anything that doesnt have a ribbon

[clear gate]

You only have to target the ones that are on top of a lightning square thing

So you can skip Shoukaku since she isn't on top of one

[wintry sonnet]

oh well

not like I'm gonna farm there either way

I like my affection farming spot on SP3 once they fix it

[clear gate]

I'm farming there since it's slightly more efficient for me

[stuck copper]

clearing mode gets rid of that crap

[wintry sonnet]

and nagato's almost done so I can swap to a cheaper bb

and drive the cost lower

[clear gate]

Also yeah, don't forget about clearing mode

For boss I can go even cheaper than I currently am, I'm getting overkill results

Enty + SaraKai + Yuki + PortKai

Yuki needs the exp though

[wintry sonnet]

ok I think I got a setup for bsp

[clear gate]

Since you can only do BSP once a day, I wouldn't worry about efficiency

[wintry sonnet]

I wanna 3* right off the bat

there'll be time to drive fuel costs low later

[clear gate]

I mean it's only one run a day. Even if you're incredibly inefficient, it can't be more than like... 600-700 oil for a 3* run?

Just using my bad mental math

[wintry sonnet]

well its 600 points at the end of the day so I'd have to really go out of my way to make it a waste

[clear gate]

You would really have to be trying to make it cost 700+ oil, I think

[wintry sonnet]

but I want at least 1 clear with an inefficient meme setup before I start tryharding

[clear gate]

Clearing mode is so much nicer

[wintry sonnet]

does it disable all the penalty nodes btw?

[clear gate]

It does

No more warnings in SP4

[wintry sonnet]

good, so that's still there

[stuck copper]

it turns it into a regular map. no shenanigans.

[wintry sonnet]

I was worried they didnt put it in since the help button didnt exclaim that

[clear gate]

Also you aren't limited to 3-4 squares per move

[wintry sonnet]

hmmm

so maybe

[clear gate]

so moving is faster too

[wintry sonnet]

it also disables the electricity field on SP3

if not then that's not an issue

since you can just leg it from one end of the map to another

[tough burrow]

it should since there's no "turns" anymore

[clear gate]

You don't need to target specific stuff anymore in clearing mode either

so for SP4 for example you can kill just any 5 mobs

[wintry sonnet]

ah, so that's how they do it

[clear gate]

So you don't have to do any more annoying routing

[wintry sonnet]

I was wondering about that changed enemy placement thing

so it just turns the map into your garden variety rush to boss as soon as you kill enough shit

[clear gate]

Yes

Just make sure to clear out the mobs that are obstructing the way to the boss spawn

which is easy since the spawn point is fixed

[wintry sonnet]

fuck it, I'm buyign a 2nd hood gun

having Duke with the purp is triggering me

[dim crystal]

down to 1 cube

[clear gate]

What about luck with buiilds

[dim crystal]

missing 3/5

[clear gate]

Oh RIP

[dim crystal]

but i got 2 subs

[wintry sonnet]

elites amirite

[dim crystal]

so its not that bad

[wintry sonnet]

always the hardest to get

esp on rate up

[clear gate]

So far I only have U-81 and Zeppy

as new ships from build

[dim crystal]

trying to get the other kizuna

this is gonna be super long

about 120 cubes on her already

[clear gate]

Tbh the main reason I want battleship Kizuna is because I'm lacking in battleships with CL guns

[dim crystal]

the main reason I want kizuna is because I gotta have everyone

[clear gate]

But that too

I like finishing collections

[wintry sonnet]

alright, the meme bus has assembled

honk honk

[next onyx]

15 Zeppy so far wtf. Come on, give me Hiei so I can stop

[dense wing]

luckyy

[clear gate]

That's crazy

[wintry sonnet]

when you dont have enough cudas so you gotta use the meme plane

[clear gate]

Not even that much of a meme

It's actually pretty good

[wintry sonnet]

I mean, when you dont have caviar, butterbread works just as fine

uh, game?

that seems a really odd time to bring up sos signals

[vital edge]

in the middle of a fight.

Random PSA's

[wintry sonnet]

it's not even a sos mission

ok, immediate problem

battleships are crashign into my backline

[clear gate]

Sounds like

a you problem

[wintry sonnet]

maybe I should've gone portland after all

on the + side enemies move

so I can bait them into my subs

free affection

[clear gate]

I only have two subs, and so I haven't invested too strongly in them yet

It's not worth it to me if I don't have the ability to make a full fleet of them

[wintry sonnet]

I threw 100 cubes at the subs when they got added, managed to pick up I-19 and Dace

since then, 200 cubes and only I-19 dupe, nothing else

[dense wing]

why though

arent they permanent

[tough burrow]

fuck it, I'm buyign a 2nd hood gun don't forget we getting x3 core data event starting tmrw

[clear gate]

I tossed a few cubes at them (like less than 10) when they launched, then was like "ok I'm done"

[wintry sonnet]

because why not

[dense wing]

me too haha

[clear gate]

and then never got another sub until just now when U-81 appeared

So I only have two subs as of today

[wintry sonnet]

and yea res I know, that's why i went through with it, cause I can quickly get back to 1600 and buy myself the sub equipment

[clear gate]

I also got an I-58 dupe, after I already MLB'ed I-58

That was just bad

[wintry sonnet]

ok, maybe the walls of camelot weren't a bad idea

cause I sank 3 mobs and they keep spawning in doubles

they really want you to work for that 3*

[tough burrow]

oof

Phoe decided to pretend play Glowworm

[wintry sonnet]

ouch

[clear gate]

Rip lol

[wintry sonnet]

also, uh

are the moving enemeis supposed to stop

and give you a stare off?

[tough burrow]

they can

[wintry sonnet]

ok

[tough burrow]

there're nodes they can't go to iirc

like boss spawns

[wintry sonnet]

oh

well that explains it

guess I found me a boss spawn

[ornate mantle]

ONE MORE LOLI DOWN.

[tough burrow]

👏

[wintry sonnet]

I guess me and rest are the only ones here who are gonna continue their rolling journey on daily 3 rolls

[tough burrow]

I have nothing more to roll, so yes

[wintry sonnet]

[clear gate]

I don't do daily 3 rolls, I do daily-however-many-I-can-rolls

[wintry sonnet]

that's fine

[next onyx]

I am trying to get the lolis a fast as I can. Then I wil stick to 3 builds on the Kizuna banner

[wintry sonnet]

I'm used to being alone

harumpf

[clear gate]

I never have cubes

[tough burrow]

well, I am going to stick to 3 daily

[clear gate]

but somehow manage to get nearly everyone

so that's... dumb

[tough burrow]

since I have to choice

I still have perfect history with limited ships

so it's fine

I'm more worried about Belette tbf

[wintry sonnet]

tbh knowing they'll add the lolis in permanently does make me feel better about the whole 0 coins 0 cubes I got left with after collab rolling

still I want at the very least Zeppy

I want my KMS memes

[clear gate]

I got Zeppy and that makes me very pleased

KMS memes are coming indeed

[next onyx]

I think the big question is now, when is the next event? LOL one week after these two end? hahaha RIP cubes count

[wintry sonnet]

as soon as I get some dorm space, I'm throwing Prinz in

[clear gate]

Being able to use Tirpitz in a full KMS fleet is gonna be great

[ornate mantle]

I’m an impatient piece of shit. So I’ll just go all out Day one and get all the girls ASAP.

Then begins my hermit journey anew.

[clear gate]

I'll probably use a Z-frontline. I haven't actually done that yet seriously because there hasn't been much incentive to over another frontline

[ornate mantle]

A Z Frontline.

[wintry sonnet]

I'll propably start changing my tactics

[ornate mantle]

[clear gate]

Z1, Z46, Z23

[ornate mantle]

Oh.

[wintry sonnet]

and just roll away what I have outside of email, then do daily 3s till I get everything

and start opening emails on final day if I still dont have everyone

[ornate mantle]

I’d been planning to use Rem, Ram, and Shinobi Chan.

[wintry sonnet]

I just dont like having to sit there and roll daily for limited stuff

I like just chilling in light construct with 1 roll per day

[ornate mantle]

I don’t.

I like having everyone.

ASAP.

[clear gate]

Zeppy gets stronger for every KMS ship in the fleet, so there's a lot of rationale for having a Z-frontline now

for that kind of fleet at least

[ornate mantle]

I mean, Zeppy is pretty awesome.

[wintry sonnet]

I'm defo going prinz and nimi, not sure about my 3rd ship

[ornate mantle]

In any KMS fleet.

[clear gate]

I need more plane plates for the german planes

[tough burrow]

I think the big question is now, when is the next event? LOL one week after these two end? PR

[clear gate]

Gosh

[ornate mantle]

I’ll save Zeppy for roon farming.

[wintry sonnet]

Viersechs seems the most logical since 3 out of 6 ships already have swimsutis

[verbal obsidian]

me as i read the 100 messages i miss by pooping

[clear gate]

How do you all read that btw

I read it as "Zed Four Six"

[wintry sonnet]

dont you have a phone?

[verbal obsidian]

i was texting

[ornate mantle]

[wintry sonnet]

texting on a phone?

I thought the only reason phones exist is to play on a toilet

[clear gate]

100mm for Z46 is the way to go, right

[wintry sonnet]

[clear gate]

since AP DD guns suck for actual DD usage, and you want to bring out her barrage

[wintry sonnet]

fk

now that I think about it

[vital edge]

so important question

[wintry sonnet]

if we had a german repair ship

then I could make a beautiful fleet for chapter 12

[vital edge]

Just like with BB Kaga and Akagi, does Akagi-chan trigger CV Kaga's skill?

[clear gate]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_auxiliary_cruiser_Widder

I guess this would be the KMS repair ship

[vital edge]

Okay, thanks I guess.

[clear gate]

Also

I don't know

I assume "yes"

[wintry sonnet]

man, I'm so annoyed with Zeppy in a way

she can swap freely between a plane and aux gun on her 3rd setup, which is what BBVs needed for like forever

and if that wasn't enough she has an actual firepower stat

which houshou needed for like forever

[clear gate]

So

[wintry sonnet]

there's no justice in the world

[clear gate]

you're mad because Zeppy represents everything that these kinds of hybrid ships needed but don't have and will never get

[wintry sonnet]

rather I'm annoyed that they clearly get why Zeppy has the stuff she has

but they wont even adress the same problems for the older ships

I mean what's in the way of just giving Houshou firepower stat

not even being able to swap between plane and aux, that's like cool but at the very least give her a fkin firepower

so she can do what she's supposed to do

be able to fend off suicide boats

they can do that anytime of day, they did it with chinaball

when they lowered their armor

Not even asking for a retrofit, just a buff that makes her viable for her role

[flat palm]

4.5k left till belchan but i should sleep...

[wintry sonnet]

you should, you got 2 weeks to do that

[flat palm]

But after belchan i need to farm like

40k pts in kizuna shop

[wintry sonnet]

3 weeks to do that

fuck...

[flat palm]

My first ever PR prints

[wintry sonnet]

shit

I might've done an oopsie

will subs count for the under 8 requirement

[flat palm]

What did u do

[wintry sonnet]

[flat palm]

Dunno

[wintry sonnet]

how do I retreat subs

[flat palm]

Prob not

[wintry sonnet]

oh god, how do I retreat my trash fleet

when you have the flee option on boss now

[flat palm]

[wintry sonnet]

I have made a series of horrible mistakes

well, fuck...

[next onyx]

Got all the lolis. 268 cubes remaining. Now to do 3 a day on Kizuna banner.

[wintry sonnet]

German engineering still reigns supreme

such big brain

much iq

wow

[ornate mantle]

First PR prints go to best girl Ibuki ❤

[next onyx]

103 cubes. Comrade, you are starting to run low

[ornate mantle]

Comrade, ‘tis the price we pay for the girls we love.

[vital edge]

"low"

Who has the lowest cubes among us?

[ornate mantle]

I only have 100 on reserve now.

[next onyx]

that's low imo lol especially with 2 cubes per build during event

[vital edge]

I'm at 38 right now

[ornate mantle]

Clearly I’m in poverty.

[vital edge]

No luck with commissions

[ornate mantle]

100 available for immediate use.

110 in mail.

[wintry sonnet]

I'm at 14 cubes right now

[ornate mantle]

How’d I get this poor.

[next onyx]

@wintry sonnet

[vital edge]

Okay, Aquan. You win.

[ornate mantle]

Damn.

[vital edge]

[ornate mantle]

You got

Fucked at your own game.

It’s like

[wintry sonnet]

I didnt even get to play the game

I expected to get rekt on the elite special rolls

[ornate mantle]

If I challenged you BBall and got dunked on.

[clear gate]

I have zero

[wintry sonnet]

I didnt even get to roll once on the lolis

[clear gate]

I am basically in a state of constant building

[next onyx]

supposed to go for lolis first

[ornate mantle]

Revy showing us the light.

Wait what.

[wintry sonnet]

naw mang

[ornate mantle]

No

[wintry sonnet]

loliz are perma

[ornate mantle]

Go for Kizuna first.

[wintry sonnet]

well they will be

certainly will be available quicker than collabs

[ornate mantle]

I’d get them right now while rate is here.

[vital edge]

Lolis are limited, or am I missing some joke here?

[ornate mantle]

No

[next onyx]

lolis are coming back apparently

[wintry sonnet]

according to JP notes they will become permanent at later date

[ornate mantle]

They are gonna be permapool at some point.

[vital edge]

So no point worrying about them then

I can live without them, I guess

[ornate mantle]

No

If they’re this hard to get

[next onyx]

Eh, I rather get them while rate is up

[ornate mantle]

Imagine w/o rate ups

That’d be actual goddamn cancer.

It’d be subs all over again.

[carmine coyote]

I think this is relevant for the topic now

[vital edge]

I'm still after subs anyway

I only have one other sub apart from the obligatory free one

[ornate mantle]

Rates ups are a goddamn fib.

[next onyx]

a fib I tell ya

[vital edge]

If I miss the lolis now, then no loss for me

Not like I wanted trash anyway

[next onyx]

I feel the same way about Kizuna, We get two of them anyway, why do I need two more

[ornate mantle]

How the fuck have I spent hundreds of cubes and not gotten a Dace but 3+ copies of every other sub.

[carmine coyote]

Shropshire loves me way too much,as well as Portland, Pensacola, Norfolk, Kent, Bogue, and Hermes

[ornate mantle]

You’re a harem king wolfie.

[vital edge]

I got Dace very casually

[next onyx]

Shropshire loves everyone. Always haunts my builds

[vital edge]

Just her.

I-19 is like the Lochness monster

Doesn't exist.

[carmine coyote]

A harem would be if I got Akagi-chan

[vital edge]

[ornate mantle]

I got three of her very casually.

I think one pleasant surprise

Was that I got an Atago dupe to MLB the one I already had.

[carmine coyote]

Zeppy would be for my Tirpitz to come back to a KMS fleet

[ornate mantle]

Zeppy is a goddamn gift from heaven.

[vital edge]

Hmm

[next onyx]

Zeppy is so lewdable

[dense wing]

dont..

dont say that...

[vital edge]

I wonder if the devs will fix any of the other weirdo carriers

[carmine coyote]

I can see people pairing her with Tirpitz already

[vital edge]

Zeppy seems to really be decent

[ornate mantle]

Naturally.

“Decent”

[carmine coyote]

What's her skills?

[ornate mantle]

Self buff for every KMS and damage reduction iirc.

Both passive.

[vital edge]

Prince of Wales except Zeppy's faction buff includes herself

[ornate mantle]

5% for every KMS including herself.

[vital edge]

a gun that actually functions

[carmine coyote]

So it null Moma Graf's skill

[ornate mantle]

So a grand 30% to all her stats.

[vital edge]

Decent

[ornate mantle]

With full KMS.

[vital edge]

she even has good evasion

[ornate mantle]

I gotta remember her stats.

[carmine coyote]

For a loli she better

[ornate mantle]

Because if they were good, this 30% buff makes her great.

Not decent.

Especially with the options that KMS has atm.

[vital edge]

Decent considering what she's comparing to

[ornate mantle]

Which is?

[vital edge]

I mean in the face of Houshou and PoW, there's no competition

[carmine coyote]

Can Zeppy's skills work with Momma Graf's

[vital edge]

Is there a reason why it shouldn't?

Zeppy is ironblood and Graf Zep is ironblood

they should work together with no problems

[ornate mantle]

Okay.

That's a smartass way to put it.

But yes, both Graf can work together very well, lmao.

[vital edge]

I didn't mean to sound like one

It's just that it sounded like he bumped into a bug or something

[dim crystal]

damn

still no kizuna CV

[wintry sonnet]

phew, done with everything

aside of EX

[dim crystal]

what about 10k points

for belchan

done also?

[wintry sonnet]

that come next

[dim crystal]

shut up then

[wintry sonnet]

you're one to talk

I'm more done with the event right now than you are

[dim crystal]

i need CV luck

almost 300 cubes spent on both build

well

[lament flower]

[wintry sonnet]

just as a side note for those who might've not known, you gotta go back to all 4 SP stages after doing black-SP

to pick up the photos for the medal

no rush for that tho, since we can't get the medal until 7 days have passed

[warm bluff]

oooh ty i didn't know that

probably would've been really confused in 7 days lol

[wintry sonnet]

yeah I was wondering about the ????? spots on the scrapbook so I checked the help button and there it was

[cosmic pier]

[verbal obsidian]

[next onyx]

Wha...Rei is back? Whoooo!

[cosmic pier]

psy literally only one happy to see me back

[verbal obsidian]

u damn right

[carmine coyote]

I was asking if their skills stacked or overlap

[dim crystal]

whos rei

sound like an idiot

[oblique mantle]

I mean I have access to you anywhere

Just like most of the people I see who are in other servers I visit

[solar fjord]

[dense wing]

whos rei

[oblique mantle]

Sup lonk

[ornate mantle]

What is Akagi-chibi's timer?

Danke.

[verbal obsidian]

all the lurkers came back out

[dense wing]

u r a lurker

[dim crystal]

hmm

can you 1-1 w8

🤔

I'm farming belchan 1-1 w7 atm

[verbal obsidian]

i believe u can

[dim crystal]

doing 1-1 20 oil with nevada retro and abukuma retro tho

[clear gate]

You can 1-1 in w8

Especially now with the level cap being 110

[dense wing]

offtopic question but

anyone here going to AX?

[ornate mantle]

I am. No way I can miss AL panel at AX this year.

As for farming for Bel-chan points, I'm doing 2:2 on W9.

[dim crystal]

hmm

doing 1-1 is better tho

[ornate mantle]

I'm also farming for EXP and Affection.

While farming for Niizuki.

So 4 things at once.

[dim crystal]

niizuki

got her ages ago

[ornate mantle]

I have yet to acquire this beauty.