avrora-general

[oblique mantle]

You just want despair

And then I watch

[wintry sonnet]

I mean, look on it this way

I have a reason to spam special again

I can pretend to go for lolis

[oblique mantle]

Also nagato

[wintry sonnet]

while secretly rolling subs

[oblique mantle]

You got what you wanted atleast

[toxic scroll]

i don't really care for the subs

i'll take them

[oblique mantle]

When she first came I got everything but her

[toxic scroll]

but probably won't go out of the way for them

[wintry sonnet]

speaking of subs

[toxic scroll]

she's the best one

[oblique mantle]

And she was before wash so I had to think

[cosmic pier]

now get her to 200

[oblique mantle]

Do I really care about this girl over One Punch Women

[wintry sonnet]

I will in 2 years

[oblique mantle]

The answer was hell no!!

[wintry sonnet]

when we actually get to being able to sortie subs to event maps

[oblique mantle]

That was a long ass fucking wait man

But it happened and I wasted 300 for wash

[toxic scroll]

probably never

lmao

[oblique mantle]

Worth it

[toxic scroll]

until it includes subs

from the event specifically

[wintry sonnet]

rerun of nagato allowed for subs

but since we got the OG version that was run before sub update

[oblique mantle]

Its gonna be bad

[toxic scroll]

rerun yes

[wintry sonnet]

we inherited that shit

[toxic scroll]

but we won't be getting reruns first

[oblique mantle]

I didn’t even bother rolling for jp

[wintry sonnet]

Well, french event should allow us

since Surcouf

they dont have an excuse not to let us

[oblique mantle]

I don’t need more subs when surcouf and u bose graces my fleet

[wintry sonnet]

also nobody got I-19's name reference feelsbadman

[toxic scroll]

doesn't look like

you can use subs in french event maps

[wintry sonnet]

I might've tried too hard looking for an obscure animoo with cats

[toxic scroll]

not seeing anything

i think i know

and i don't want to admit it

i'm 50/50 on it

[wintry sonnet]

actually you might be right

none of the wiki screenshots for the french event have subs on it

[toxic scroll]

lmao

not even the game cares for subs

outside of main story

[wintry sonnet]

Forever bamboozled

[toxic scroll]

get oof'd

[wintry sonnet]

time to spam intern

[dim crystal]

well

[oblique mantle]

Haha

Yeah your spot on

Even they know the worth of subs

[toxic scroll]

there is no worth lmao

other than more cute girls

which is still enough

i guess

[oblique mantle]

Exactly

[wintry sonnet]

darn surface supremacists

pushing us humble submarine folks and taking our jobs

[oblique mantle]

You know me aquan.

One shot one kill

[wintry sonnet]

it's ok

Neko Sub is stronk

[toxic scroll]

she's the only worthwhile one too

[wintry sonnet]

the reason they dont let her sortie anywhere is cause they know she's imba

[toxic scroll]

eh

subs don't do enough

[wintry sonnet]

the thing about subs is, you can run a much smaller fleet on later worlds

and just use the subs to deal with the large mains

[toxic scroll]

but it only works when the enemies spawn in the sub radius

[wintry sonnet]

instead of having to setup just to accomodate all the bullshit

[oblique mantle]

I like it

[toxic scroll]

if they don't, your SOL

[oblique mantle]

Nothing too easy

Been having to deal with easy for too long man

[wintry sonnet]

We need to build a pool

and make surface ships pay for it

We will have the greatest pool

[toxic scroll]

inb4 it's the least used pool

[wintry sonnet]

And make submarines great again

[toxic scroll]

with the smallest pool

[wintry sonnet]

for that comment

the pool just got deeper

[toxic scroll]

ok

more surface ships

less subs

i'm cool with that

subs are outnumbered how much

does hood count as two submarines

[oblique mantle]

a shit ton

[wintry sonnet]

Navy seals get outnumbered by police

[oblique mantle]

lets leave it at that

[wintry sonnet]

I'd still rather have Navy Seals

gotem

[oblique mantle]

drops depth charge

[toxic scroll]

all it takes is a DD to make a sub run away

[oblique mantle]

[toxic scroll]

lmao

[oblique mantle]

What was that?

Just me sneezing

[wintry sonnet]

can't drop a depth charge if you're sinking from a torp out of your sonar range

[cosmic pier]

my fav sub is i 58 cuz she sploded indy or sth and that prob makes porkland angery

[oblique mantle]

Let me know when they can do that

[toxic scroll]

can't sink if you don't get hit

[oblique mantle]

I'll sacrifice prinz to take the hit

Ironblood can finally do something

Taking penetration

[wintry sonnet]

reminder that I-19 rekt Wasp and O'Brien and heavily damaged NorCal

with a single salvo

[toxic scroll]

that's fine

a DD could've done the same thing

[cosmic pier]

fuck's an o brain

[toxic scroll]

and doesn't have to hide

a torp is a torp

[wintry sonnet]

also I am biased for submarines

[toxic scroll]

you're taking serious damage regardless

[wintry sonnet]

cause Das Boot is one of my favorite war movies

[oblique mantle]

I mean We all know what wash did

[cosmic pier]

wash the dishes?

[verbal obsidian]

pepega

[oblique mantle]

Hell we have a quad team of essex coming yamatos way

[wintry sonnet]

also I played the fuckton of Silent Hunter back in wee old days

[oblique mantle]

Insert tag here

[toxic scroll]

U 571 here

[wintry sonnet]

so I have a huge crush for submarine warfare

[oblique mantle]

no clue what that is aquan

[wintry sonnet]

imagine Euro Truck Simulator

but as submarine warfare

with all the details and shit

like having to manually aim your torpedos, calculate ship speeds

and sneaking onto them behind their turbine

[oblique mantle]

So it's what you could have in wow..but they decided fuck that lets make them pay 80 plus for this one op tier ship?

Something like that?

[wintry sonnet]

pretty much

I loved the shit out of it, which is why I have so much sympathy for submarine girls

wish they had a role like that instead of just being called into battle or having a static % dmg when they're in hunting mode

[oblique mantle]

Maybe if I discovered it

[wintry sonnet]

like having a minigame

where you have to avoid sonars and launch torpedo spreads into enemies

but alas we got what we got

[oblique mantle]

Right

[toxic scroll]

that's a lot more complex than what AL can offer

[wintry sonnet]

sadly, yes

[toxic scroll]

like

extremely more complex

not even wows has anything like that

when they do the sub stuff

like for Halloween

[wintry sonnet]

well Wows couldn't be able to do that because Wows is too arcadey for a mechanic like this

[toxic scroll]

it'd be more believable though

for them to do something like it

[wintry sonnet]

to have a proper submarine mechanic you'd need to go full autismo and have minutes upon hours of sneaking up on your target, just to get this one great salvo

and then bail the fk out

[toxic scroll]

and then miss

[wintry sonnet]

but I digress, I have a huge sentiment for submarines and as such I want to utilize them whenever I can

even if they're not amazing in AL

[toxic scroll]

i think subs are cool and all

like really cool

i just like the aspect of warships better

[wintry sonnet]

ok, this is really suspicious

first 2 cube commissions in a row, now this

this never happened before

[toxic scroll]

hmmm

[wintry sonnet]

What is going on, why is the game suddenly this generous

[cosmic pier]

its cuz im back

[toxic scroll]

because they're about to F* everyone

i mean the game got worse too

so

[wintry sonnet]

I'm not worried about the collab tbh

the special build tho

3 elites

[toxic scroll]

i'm not

tbh

[wintry sonnet]

with my shit luck for elites

this is gonna be the worst

[toxic scroll]

i got the nep ships because i like the nep girls

couldn't care less for kizuna ai

[tough burrow]

Nah, it's great. I get to roll for event ships AND subs at the same time? Sign me up

[wintry sonnet]

I have not left an event under 100 cubes just because of elites

[cosmic pier]

i heard restart really loves the sara ai skin

[tough burrow]

huh?

[wintry sonnet]

even when I aced all the other ships in 20-30 cubes, I always end up going 70+ more just for one goddarn elite

[tough burrow]

It's ok, but korean is better

so I don't care

[wintry sonnet]

korean sara?

[tough burrow]

ye

from her event

hanbok

[wintry sonnet]

I'm assuming Korean Sara is voiced by a guy

[cosmic pier]

sara's kr skin managed to get me slightly more willing to use her

[tough burrow]

I'm assuming Korean Sara is voiced by a guy I... just gonna ignore it, as I have no idea what you talking about

[wintry sonnet]

Oh, lemme enlighten you then

as soon as I find the link

I need to find my braindamage folder

[tough burrow]

do I even want to know?

[cosmic pier]

interesting folder name

[verbal obsidian]

hi restart

[tough burrow]

[wintry sonnet]

@tough burrow beautiful wasn't it

[tough burrow]

[wintry sonnet]

a fellow korean shitposter sent it to me long time ago, so when I hear korea and magical girl, this what comes in my mind

it's why i wasn't even phased when people were posting that male voice Hood

[cosmic pier]

gib me too

[wintry sonnet]

sent

[cosmic pier]

glorious

guess its time to get some i 58 dupes in 2 days

[verbal obsidian]

[cosmic pier]

already got best sub so

[tough burrow]

[cosmic pier]

58 best sub

[wintry sonnet]

you know

I-58 has no voice in game yet

but I could've sworn I heard her voice lines

[wintry sonnet]

she has a VA listed on wiki, but no voice lines either

[verbal obsidian]

[cosmic pier]

I've done like maybe 10 rolls on subs lel

[verbal obsidian]

yeah i only rolled 20

[cosmic pier]

I got this one does it count

[verbal obsidian]

[cosmic pier]

but its a sub

[verbal obsidian]

[cosmic pier]

gotta luccsacc harder

[cosmic pier]

got the gold sonar at 6

[wintry sonnet]

type 13 at 4, guided at 3, type 95 at 8, sonar at 7

[cosmic pier]

wow luccsacc

[verbal obsidian]

wow luccsacc

who even started using "luccsacc" first in here

was it aran

[cosmic pier]

mhm

[verbal obsidian]

damn luccsacc

[wintry sonnet]

calls people luccsac, has unlimited cubes

what a luccsacc

[verbal obsidian]

but he works for that money!

[oblique mantle]

I think the only luccsacc thats consistent

Is me

[verbal obsidian]

YEAH! same tho

[wintry sonnet]

I dont think you can be counted as a luccsacc when you never roll

[oblique mantle]

Not my fault when they give you meh options

[verbal obsidian]

[oblique mantle]

But when it’s on my list

Its usually in my hands

[wintry sonnet]

if you're a real luccsacc, then why does it matter

you'll get everything in 20-30 cubes anyway

[oblique mantle]

Is this peer pressure?

[wintry sonnet]

I'm not saying you can prove me wrong by rolling on Friday

[oblique mantle]

I ain’t doing none of that

[wintry sonnet]

well, it was worth a try

[oblique mantle]

You and I both know I’m not found of whats coming friday

[verbal obsidian]

[oblique mantle]

Try again when Iowa happens

[verbal obsidian]

[cosmic pier]

cant wait to have to kill 400 cubes for zeppy

[wintry sonnet]

must be nice to have 400 cubes to spend

[cosmic pier]

idk

[verbal obsidian]

no u r ei

no u

[cosmic pier]

u r ei

while I dont specially mind botes taking quite a bunch of cubes to get, I rather have cubes for later events too lel

bitch pls you prob have 352907238946 cubes rotting in your mail

[wintry sonnet]

#1stworldproblems

[verbal obsidian]

yeah aran has like 1500 cubes rn

[cosmic pier]

"it doesnt count"

but it does

dont want to use em =/= cant

[verbal obsidian]

[cosmic pier]

yeah yeah and my body refuses to let me not be salty

[wintry sonnet]

didnt you just say you can't use them

[cosmic pier]

"i'll find some money in my card"

[wintry sonnet]

ask rei to borrow you his sugar daddy

[cosmic pier]

which one

I mean even with all my sugar daddies combined I cant whale like ran did for the subs

[tough burrow]

pls, all this talk and you'll probably be getting all the ships in sub-40 cubes

what's the point of talking the same thing before every event

[cosmic pier]

just like how I got nagato in 350 cubes right

[wintry sonnet]

nobody's stopping you from rolling

[tough burrow]

what patchnotes, just guess what's coming

[wintry sonnet]

go roll for dupes

[tough burrow]

why you need patchnotes

[cosmic pier]

woah.

[wintry sonnet]

NEEEEEEERD

[cosmic pier]

never thought I'd see an AL player say that

aquan wasnt exactly wrong there gotta say

with no new ship to farm for it kinda gets borin

gotta just farm dupes

and then they dont drop

[wintry sonnet]

Why do you keep all those screenshots

are you working in NSA or sth

[cosmic pier]

yes

I know everything

[wintry sonnet]

fkin FBI agents everywhere

[cosmic pier]

dont think its safe just cuz it was said while I wasnt here

had 610 cubes before isss

410 rn

[tough burrow]

52

[cosmic pier]

nice

[wintry sonnet]

brb

[tough burrow]

had around that before isss

[cosmic pier]

restart a luccsacc

[wintry sonnet]

hah, I got 12 cubes only now

[tough burrow]

i am

[wintry sonnet]

I win

[cosmic pier]

I mean rn its basically like I dont have nagato but if I started with 50 cubes I wouldnt have nagato

6 yoizukis tho

[wintry sonnet]

sure you would, you'd just come back quicker

and sap our luck

[cosmic pier]

something something i saw rei not around to sap my luck so I pulled for subs

[wintry sonnet]

hey, you're onto something there

when you weren't here I got 3/5 subs in 100 cubes

[cosmic pier]

I mean I was quoting you

[wintry sonnet]

if you were lurking during nagato that explains how I spent 200 and got not even a dupe

[cosmic pier]

[wintry sonnet]

Rest, can you ban Rei for a day after maint so we can roll in peace

[tough burrow]

sure

[wintry sonnet]

thx bae ❤

[cosmic pier]

I'll have @ripe mantle protect me

[tough burrow]

inb4 banned for pings

[cosmic pier]

he wouldnt ban me

famous last words before ban

he def was like "weeeeeee I want subs"

[tough burrow]

event in special tab, so you can get subs
still roll for subs before the event

[wintry sonnet]

I mean I did, but nobody told me we'll have a special build pool in 3 weeks

[cosmic pier]

I was kinda scared there that the lolibotes and trashzuna mighta be in the same pool

[tough burrow]

I feel like restart's philosophy only works for luccsacc like him Like I have any control over my "philosophy"

[cosmic pier]

and that woulda brought my collab page to ruin

but thankfully they are separate

[tough burrow]

I don't roll "just because"

I just don't have many cubes

[cosmic pier]

someone's gonna quote me over the thankfully

[wintry sonnet]

if it's your philosophy, that kinda implies you have control over it, otherwise it'd be someone else's

[tough burrow]

no idea how you do

[verbal obsidian]

Wah i look away for 10 min

and i miss an entire convo

[cosmic pier]

I dont got many cubes either

I swear

only 33

send cubes

[tough burrow]

and what if

[wintry sonnet]

your game's bugged, it has moonrunes

report it to restart

[cosmic pier]

woah

restart my game

[tough burrow]

I'm a luccsacc because of my philosophy

[wintry sonnet]

How much for your philosophy

[cosmic pier]

how are you both a luccsacc and only have like 50 cubes

[wintry sonnet]

I want into luccsacc too pls

[verbal obsidian]

maybe youre just a sacc

[tough burrow]

that's the thing, I get basically all ships in under 40 cubes first day, except for maybe one

and then I just do "daily 3 rolls"

and get her

and move on to the next event with 50 cubes

[cosmic pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/466250908682944522/570030966807199755/unknown.png

I think suzu might wanna kill my jav

[tough burrow]

who doesn't

[cosmic pier]

idk

[wintry sonnet]

so Suzuya's Uru's alter ego

[cosmic pier]

me, myself and I

[wintry sonnet]

[cosmic pier]

dam

"im not biased btw and I dont hate jav but I dislike this and that and that other thing and this one more thing bout her"

[tough burrow]

but my philosophy probably gonna get scraped this event, because 2 pools

[cosmic pier]

lel

just ignore trashzuna

[tough burrow]

I will

I mean, realistically speaking

[wintry sonnet]

sounds like Rei's biased towards hating on kizuna

[tough burrow]

I should ignore lolis

because they'll be added to the perma

later

[cosmic pier]

later

[wintry sonnet]

I'd love to ignore lolis, but this last week it's been nothing but lolis

[tough burrow]

and the only loli I actually like is Zeppy

Doubt Akachan be much different from Akagi

they need to sell "lol crazy yandere bitch"

[cosmic pier]

I mean, that en advert kizuna did really made my eyes bleed (ears actually) meanwhile I dont get whatchu all complain bout javelin's voice cuz it doesnt make my ears bleed

but that aside

I just dont go for collabotes anyway

except the ones called PR cuz that's different n all that shit

[tough burrow]

ye, because they're good and you're metaslave

[wintry sonnet]

can you even call PR ships collabs when they're not limited

[tough burrow]

ye you can

still collab technically

[cosmic pier]

I mean its technically a wows collab

but its totally different from the other ones

[wintry sonnet]

I mean ye but nobody plays Wows anyways

[cosmic pier]

not letting no kizuna touch my collab page

[wintry sonnet]

actually do PR ships have their own collection page

[cosmic pier]

dont think so

[tough burrow]

don't they?

[cosmic pier]

o wait

[wintry sonnet]

if they're real collabs they shouldn't count towards collection log no?

[cosmic pier]

they do

[tough burrow]

I'm pretty sure they go to collab

[cosmic pier]

they got their own tab

[wintry sonnet]

welp

[tough burrow]

a, separate

[wintry sonnet]

real collab confirmed

[cosmic pier]

time to ignore pr

[wintry sonnet]

I like how you had to include yourself saying "they do" in the screenshot

[cosmic pier]

restart calling me a metaslave
Im going for izumo first
all the metaslaves gonna ignore her with an idk how many inches pole

[verbal obsidian]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/528197562998718474/560087732349829140/build_spam.gif

[cosmic pier]

like ok sure res

[wintry sonnet]

I mean izumo's hardly a metaslave choice

[verbal obsidian]

yeah im going for ibuki and izumo first

[cosmic pier]

that's the point

[verbal obsidian]

[wintry sonnet]

a real metaslave would go monarch, roon, saint louis

[tough burrow]

You metaslave for going for pr in the first place

real contrarians ignore it

[cosmic pier]

lel

[wintry sonnet]

you know what would be nice

even if we dont get 2nd PR ship batch yet

would be neat if we could already get the luck modding

[tough burrow]

isn't luck modding only for PR1 ships to have something to do with all the extra BPs?

[wintry sonnet]

pretty much yea

[tough burrow]

doubt we'll have it

[wintry sonnet]

another thing I'm wondering, if we're getting kizuna ai collab but PR got delayed

[cosmic pier]

even if we do we wont be able to do shit with it for a while anyway

[wintry sonnet]

does that mean we wont get the PR blueprints in it

[tough burrow]

no idea

[cosmic pier]

specially with em possibly destroying the kizuna and belchan pr bps

[tough burrow]

I know Disp asked Intern about it and he said we'll get it in Belette event, and it'll be "replaced with something decent in Kizuna"

[cosmic pier]

izumo squad almost ready

[tough burrow]

but question was

[cosmic pier]

needs more skill levels

[tough burrow]

weird

[cosmic pier]

[tough burrow]

like "would the shop be open till PR"

or smth

so no idea

[wintry sonnet]

I have no idea what you even just said to me

lol

[tough burrow]

I asked Intern about it, so we'll see

Someone asked Intern if we getting PR BPs in Kizuna and Belchan event
Intern said yes to Belchan
But we might not, because question was really weird

[wintry sonnet]

considering how many you need per ship

the longer we dont get to obtain them

the longer we have to wait

[tough burrow]

I mean

That's how it works, yes

[cosmic pier]

ss or didnt happen

[wintry sonnet]

and keep in mind the collab is 3 weeks

so that's 3 weeks where we won't get an exxtra source of BPs

[ripe mantle]

[cosmic pier]

yo synd bb

[tough burrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/570581384436121621/unknown.png

[ripe mantle]

A ping

[wintry sonnet]

we already got left out on like 2 events that had em

[cosmic pier]

[tough burrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/570583356195078154/unknown.png

[wintry sonnet]

yeah, ok, that means we wont get the PR bps

[cosmic pier]

that first question tho

[wintry sonnet]

you know that part where ppl say it takes 3 months give or take to finish a PR ship?

[cosmic pier]

they seem rare enough for it to fall into the "even a single one makes a difference" category

[wintry sonnet]

30 out of 434 is pretty significant in that case

[ripe mantle]

I'm in no rush

[cosmic pier]

you dont count synd

[wintry sonnet]

I'm willing to bet the guy was grinding non-stop

[ripe mantle]

Gonna use Ibuki when she unlocks anyways

[wintry sonnet]

and hasn't missed a single research

[cosmic pier]

http://prntscr.com/nggcvy
http://prntscr.com/nggcxz

I got so many bps on jp

in like 2 weeks

[tough burrow]

[wintry sonnet]

also that

actually I was wondering that all the time

are the BPs random?

[cosmic pier]

depends

[tough burrow]

somewhat iirc

[wintry sonnet]

so you can easily not even get the Bps for the ship you're working on

[cosmic pier]

you get all these quests

can refresh once a day

[tough burrow]

there're random missions and specific missions

[cosmic pier]

that mid one as you can see

has 1 specific and other is rng

[wintry sonnet]

oof

[cosmic pier]

rainbow gun needs 50 bps

[wintry sonnet]

is that the sanshiki gun I'm seeing

[ripe mantle]

Im only going to get roon rng mats

[tough burrow]

well, it needs 50 bps, so 1 or 2 doesn't make any difference, right?

[ripe mantle]

Watch

[tough burrow]

[cosmic pier]

yeah our beloved 410 is in the pool too

[wintry sonnet]

well I know which PR equipment I'm gonna get first then

[cosmic pier]

I got 1 bp so far

[ripe mantle]

Im getting washing machine first

[cosmic pier]

lel just 1 washing mashine bp too

[wintry sonnet]

is this shit at least guaranteed?

[cosmic pier]

[wintry sonnet]

or is it more commission nonsense

aka you might get a bp you might get nothing

[cosmic pier]

well they're technically commissions

speak of the devil

[wintry sonnet]

ok, but you WILL get something no?

[cosmic pier]

yeah, 410mms

[wintry sonnet]

I mean getting crap is better than getting an empty commission so

[cosmic pier]

10 cubes

[wintry sonnet]

lol

nope, thanks

not touching that shit

ain't nobody gonna spend cubes on that

except aran cause he can spare them~

[cosmic pier]

there are people who will

some of the (I think new ones) require weapon BPs too

so dont just go crafting all the weapons you can

[wintry sonnet]

can't imagine why

it's only 10 cubes

[cosmic pier]

I mean

[wintry sonnet]

I got this fam

[cosmic pier]

doesnt sound like a whale to me

[wintry sonnet]

[ripe mantle]

10 cubes is cheap tho

[cosmic pier]

go away synd

[wintry sonnet]

hecc of synd

[cosmic pier]

no one cares bout you

[wintry sonnet]

share some of your internet money

[ripe mantle]

Its what i spent on ISSS for the ships

[cosmic pier]

some want purple plates too

[wintry sonnet]

as long as they dont ask gen plates I'm cool with that

got plenty torp plates to throw away

[ripe mantle]

[cosmic pier]

I think that one I saw earlier was gen plate lul

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/466250908682944522/569853185091436545/unknown-30.png

from a few days earlier

comet bp thanks i really needed that

metaslaving on jp

[wintry sonnet]

hold up

you can do the tasks out of order?

[cosmic pier]

well

they take 24 hours to unlock after you start on the ship

but yes

you're still time gated

[wintry sonnet]

bruh fuck this shit, I'm waiting till day 5 to start exp grinding then

[cosmic pier]

lel

doesnt exactly matter

sanrui was pretty much the only bote I could start on lel

neptune bit later, cant even start on any of the others yet

wish I had 8 hour books on jp

gotta live with 2 hours before going to sleep lel

[slow drum]

hiei

[cosmic pier]

hiei
hiei chan

angery aquan noises calling me a lolicon incoming

no wait that wouldnt work

[wintry sonnet]

yeah I was about to say

you got it mixed up if that were to be the case

[cosmic pier]

gonna be almost done with max skilling kongous and hiei still taking her time

that sheffi feels so outta place

yeah please do so

time to commit bed

[clear gate]

Finally got my 11-4 farm down to a good cost :3

I optimized my mob fleet down to 35 oil. Can probably go even lower with investment on some other ships

The formula I'm using is basically:

• One zombie frontliner
• One healer
• One battleship or battlecruiser that can hurl out a lot of damage
• Gold SG radar so that the fleet isn't ambush bait

[stuck copper]

manual or auto?

[clear gate]

Auto

I almost never manual

The next thing to try is seeing if I can get away with not using the healer

since it's very stable as is

If I can do that then I'm running sub-30 oil

I think I can also replace Phoenix with Cassin if Cassin's level is high enough, and save another 2 oil

but right now it's pretty unstable

I don't think this is quite stable enough without the healer lol

There just isn't enough left to weather the damage

[verbal obsidian]

idk i feel like unless youre super super grindy every moment youre on the game

running out of oil isnt a problem for me

but thats probably because i work 9-10 hrs a day during the week lol

[clear gate]

Well

I'm not grindy every moment of the game, but I like being efficient for the moments where I am

I remember when I worked long hours, I pretty much just slept the entire weekends lol

[verbal obsidian]

I was more so responding to aran's oil king and optimization comment xd

if anything i need gold

[clear gate]

I have actually run out of oil

A single run on 11-4 costs me about 300 oil, so it takes me about 30 runs to be completely drained

[verbal obsidian]

oof

[clear gate]

10 oil for entry
6 mob runs of 35 oil each
69 oil boss fleet

= 289 oil

That's assuming no ambushes. That SG Radar is super important lol

[verbal obsidian]

hmm i forgot i'm also a whale

so i have a bunch of saved up oil in mail

xd

[clear gate]

Even with a couple ambushes, I'm not running too much over 300 oil for a run

so all in all, not bad

[verbal obsidian]

Peoples' time and play style i guess really determine oil consumption

but the most important factor rng

[clear gate]

Hahaha yes

[verbal obsidian]

Luccsacc

[clear gate]

I could save even more oil if I did manual on the boss node 🤔

but I'm a bit too lazy for that

and the boss fleet isn't where most of the oil cost comes from anyway

[verbal obsidian]

i honestly only manual boss fleet for my self satisfaction

sometimes theyre fun

most times theyre not

[clear gate]

I'm also understanding from this endeavor why some tier lists have repair ships so high up on the rankings, even though their actual heal effectiveness isn't so impressive

Repair ships being able to heal the backline actually matters when you only have one other backliner

It's oil efficiency™

That's why they're rated highly

If you throw efficiency out the window, suddenly repair ships look really silly

Backline taking damage? Just add more battleships

But if you care about oil, then adding battleships really adds up

It's just a matter of what you judge to be valuable, I suppose.

[tough burrow]

It's not exactly true, but not wrong either.

(I stg, I try to stop this argument in help every time, but here I go)

Where ARs shine is late worlds, namely 12 and 13

because they're really good at shredding those planes

and providing heal to backline is valuable

CN tier lists for some reason value Akashi more than Vestal

ikr

[wintry sonnet]

I mean, it depends what the priority is

Vestal work out better in smaller comps, since it's more likely one ship will pile up damage on herself

in which case her heal skill is of much more importance than just a smaller heal overall to everyone

not to mention with 35s cooldown on akashi you'll most likely proc it once per battle

[clear gate]

Yah 35s is too slow sometimes

[tough burrow]

Ye, that's why I don't get her

Her heal is better when you have more ships

But the more ships you have - the quicker the fights are

and less she procs

[wintry sonnet]

also, her reload skill is a bit misleading

sure, extra reload speed is always nice, but reload scales so badly that it's barely as big a gamechanger

[clear gate]

You can argue that for any reload skills

for the most part

I wouldn't say that's specific to Akashi

[wintry sonnet]

yeah, tho i mostly draw the difference in who it affects

akashi's reload is vanguard-only

[clear gate]

See also Unicorn

[wintry sonnet]

so the benefits are miniscule

I actually prefer Shouhou alot of times for the backline healer cvl

mostly because you can give her fairley

[clear gate]

Ah yes, the Fulmar

that fun meme

Equivalent for fighters: XF5F Skyrocket

which I run on Unicorn

[wintry sonnet]

extra speed for plane launches was of great help on ch11 for me

when I run unicorn, often times in medium/large mains she just doesnt ready up quick enough to cover the bb spam

[clear gate]

I find their speed to be roughly comparable

[wintry sonnet]

it is comparable, but for chapter 11 large mains the way enemy bbs spawn is fixed

[clear gate]

I gotta know what kind of fleet is being used here now

[wintry sonnet]

and usually unicorn will lag just enough to allow a full shelling to go past, unless you ignore the first bb spawn

[clear gate]

This is what I've been using in 11-4

Just have to avoid running into too many large main fleets and it's extremely stable 🦊

[wintry sonnet]

Back when i was running 11-4 my setup was Portland, Fortune, Amagi, Shouhou

but I can see Amagi doing fine in this setup, since she has burn reduction

tho the problem is you're kinda working on the assumption you won't end up having to fight any large mains

which RNGesus isn't always as helpful with

[clear gate]

I can fight two of them tops

so I only get fucked with really, really bad RNG

[wintry sonnet]

it's still a decent setup, only difference between what I ran and what you have here is, outside of oil cost, that you're covered in terms of ammo penalties if you dont end up ambushed

[clear gate]

Even if I'm ambushed, it's still stable enough to take on medium recon fleets. So usually I'm coming out okay

[wintry sonnet]

the cvl setup works in it that you get to neutralize damage entirely, but you have to manual main fleets otherwise you get overwhelmed

[clear gate]

With no carriers on my fleet, I'm forced to run SG Radar

otherwise the fleet is serious ambush bait

It's basically unplayable without gold SG

[wintry sonnet]

hm, I might try this setup but with Vestal instead

Phoenix will hit 110 soon enough

[clear gate]

I want to try Cassin in place of Phoenix, but the fleet is already marginal enough that it could get dicey really fast

Cassin just does not have the same bulk

even though really great for DD

[wintry sonnet]

I think the problem you'd run into is that Cassin'll have a hard time fending off enough suicide boats for Amagi to finish them off

[clear gate]

Yeah, that's the other thing

[wintry sonnet]

unless you were to manual her torp salvo

[clear gate]

I can definitely see the backline getting wrecked really hard without a gunboat up front

[tough burrow]

finished 2 drill commissions because hoping I may get something better if I just won't ignore them, not like there's choice what to run

why you bully me

[clear gate]

"Fuck you" the game said

[dense wing]

[tough burrow]

you'll see

[wintry sonnet]

on the bright side

[wintry sonnet]

at least they're short

[tough burrow]

my next major gonna be drill as well

[dense wing]

jinxing yourself restart

[clear gate]

What did you use on boss for 11-4, Aquan?

[wintry sonnet]

nothing fancy

[tough burrow]

I don't care at this point, gimme all the drills

[wintry sonnet]

chinaball + HMS backline

[dense wing]

[clear gate]

I auto the boss and it's kind of expensive, that's why I'm curious

[tough burrow]

was just running a bit low!

[wintry sonnet]

yeah I autoed my boss as well

[wintry sonnet]

Yat sen, ping ning, hood queen lusty

tried running Duke alongside Hood but I wasn't impressed with the damage output

and occasionally my chinaball had a moment of "what is evasion"

and just ate up too much dmg

[clear gate]

Underleveled Yukikaze is the bottleneck, sometimes I have to pause and retry the boss node because she dies badly

[tough burrow]

something like that, but Amagi instead of Hyuuga

[clear gate]

When it works, it works brilliantly

but sometimes it's like yeah

"What is evasion"
"Mm tasty torpedoes"

[wintry sonnet]

funny thing, 11-3's way more annoying to deal with than 11-4 I found

[tough burrow]

yep

it's always like that

x-3 harder than x-4

[clear gate]

Remember farming 9-3 for Nicholas

[wintry sonnet]

Lusty Hood Queen Chinaball worked real wonders for me on 11-3

I actually coudl've left them on autobattle and not bother

[clear gate]

9-3 has one of the most bullshit maps in the game

Fricking ring

[wintry sonnet]

I kinda wanna sortie to 9-3

just to put in my sub fleet

cause I wonder how bad they do

in that clusterfuck of a maze

[clear gate]

Luckily for me, it didn't take too much farming to get Nick

[wintry sonnet]

I still got Agano to pick up at 11-2

[clear gate]

Same

[wintry sonnet]

I rushed straight to 11-4 when they released it

Had to get Columbia asap

[clear gate]

I got Sendai really fast, so 11-3 is already done for me

I think it was on like the second or third run

I hadn't even reached 11-4 yet, I remember that much

[wintry sonnet]

no such luck for me, both Sendai and Columbia cost their fair bit

[clear gate]

This happened for me for Yuudachi too, <10 runs

[wintry sonnet]

Agano still has a chance since I haven't finished danger level

[clear gate]

I farmed Jintsuu before danger level

That was fun

So very expensive

[tough burrow]

oof

[wintry sonnet]

I stopped farming her when they announced danger level

waited for its release, got her on the last run that got danger level to 0

[clear gate]

I did it because I was like "I wanna see if I can" and then I totally did

I got 3* on that level

In hindsight it wasn't very smart of me

[wintry sonnet]

who even is the chapter 12 girl

Choukai?

[clear gate]

Choukai, yeah

[wintry sonnet]

anyone else

[clear gate]

I don't know off the top of my head

[wintry sonnet]

oh, I think it was Hiyou

and possibly Junyou?

[clear gate]

Hiyou in 12-2 and Junyou in 12-3

[wintry sonnet]

ah

wasn't sure if one of them wasn't a mini event ship

[clear gate]

Yeah, I just looked it up

[wintry sonnet]

so 12-1 is another throwaway map

[clear gate]

Yup

Nothing of any significance in 12-1. Not even worth farming prints unless you want A6M5 Zero

for speedmemes

[wintry sonnet]

yeah as soon as I scrap the other 12 zeros I'll be sure to go farm there

[clear gate]

I use Skyrocket and Me-155A for fighter speedmemes anyway

[wintry sonnet]

oh, 12-3 is comet and 12-4 is the 100m gun

ehh

I guess 12 is gonna be a strictly shipfarming

[clear gate]

12-2 is quad 610mm torps but everyone and their mom has those

[wintry sonnet]

funny story

I just got my first quad yesterday

[clear gate]

hahaha

[wintry sonnet]

gold quad is like gold baracuda for me

[clear gate]

I use the 100mm on a few ships

but I have enough of them to not care about 12-4 for farming them

[wintry sonnet]

same, I got spammed with those from all the gold box opening

even got one ready to build in design

[clear gate]

In my case, Javelin Kai, Z46, Eldridge, and sometimes assorted IJN ships get the 100mm

like, sometimes Yuudachi

Sometimes I'm feeling the 76mm peashooter

[wintry sonnet]

jeez, that 12-4

[toxic scroll]

Uuhhh, what's the 100mm again

[wintry sonnet]

I mean granted, at least they had the courtesy to give us an ammo node

[toxic scroll]

The green looking gun?

[clear gate]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/images/3/3d/31000.png

This one

[toxic scroll]

Close enough

[clear gate]

The greenish one is bad

[toxic scroll]

Reload meme gun

[clear gate]

if by green, you mean the 127mm Type 3

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/images/a/a7/31200.png

[toxic scroll]

Sure

[clear gate]

This is a bad gun. The purple USN 127mm guns are better

even the purple twin 127mm

[toxic scroll]

Well yeah

The dual 127mm is good

[tough burrow]

Reload meme gun
Reload meme is 76mm tho

[toxic scroll]

I'm p sure it's 127mm

There's more than just the blue 76mm gun @tough burrow

[clear gate]

76mm is only reload meme
100mm is reload meme but actually has some punch

[wintry sonnet]

it's just a blue meme tho

gotta go for gold meme

cuz style points

[clear gate]

I prefer the 100mm for some ships

[tough burrow]

If you going reload meme - might as well go full meme

smh

[toxic scroll]

I give aya my best 76mm gun

Only the finest for her

[wintry sonnet]

I can't rest

memes are illegal here

[clear gate]

Like, for Eldridge, I feel bad not using her good main gun efficiency

[wintry sonnet]

[clear gate]

Or Javelin

[wintry sonnet]

more safe to go for one you can argue not to be a meme

[toxic scroll]

Javelin? Firepower?

Those don't go in the same sentence

[clear gate]

Javelin Kai has plenty of firepower, just less than two of the other starters P:

[toxic scroll]

Exactly

[wintry sonnet]

well, Jav's niche is to be a slippery one

[toxic scroll]

But it's so BORING to play like that

[clear gate]

Says you :3

[wintry sonnet]

I'll stay with my german engineering

real men use guns

not some fancy schmancy torpedoes

[toxic scroll]

Gun boats >>>> other boats

[clear gate]

I use Laffey if I want a heavy hitting frontliner

[toxic scroll]

Laffey counts as a gunboat

[clear gate]

I love Aya but she's kinda wack on auto

so I don't use her as much as I would otherwise

[toxic scroll]

Aya doesn't perform too well on auto

Kinda misses half the time

I mean that goes for all ships

[wintry sonnet]

I like Aya but she kinda feels like a cheat at times

[toxic scroll]

On auto with torps

[wintry sonnet]

like, her damage output is a bit too crazy for my liking

[toxic scroll]

I use her for filler half the time

[clear gate]

I use her if I play manual

[toxic scroll]

If I absolutely have to

[wintry sonnet]

yeah, her torp stat's great for filling in the requirements

[clear gate]

Oh yeah, that too

[wintry sonnet]

when the game's being anal about it and you just want a cheap trash fleet

[toxic scroll]

Honestly

I hate evasion requirements

More than all the other ones

[wintry sonnet]

Half the time I feel my problem with setting up fleets in hard mode is that I have to go out of my way and run more ships than I need to

just to meet stat reqs

[clear gate]

Yeah that's kinda the issue I have with hard in general

[toxic scroll]

That doesn't exist for me

[clear gate]

Sad

[toxic scroll]

I got hardcap oil

Plenty for laffey to drink

[clear gate]

In 1945 there was an attempted mutiny aboard Javelin

[toxic scroll]

Sucks to suck

[clear gate]

The nice thing about the 11-4 farm for me is that I'm getting spare Helldivers and TbtsKs

[toxic scroll]

Still need to finish D2

and i still absolutely despise

that some daily missions

are locked behind the "claim victory 3 times" one

that you can't get credit for until you claim that one

^

the game has no consistency sometimes

[wintry sonnet]

I mean yea, but

now that we have the chips daily challenge

you can get all this shit done there

so that when you sortie into hard mode or whatever, you only have the final ones left to do

[verbal obsidian]

[toxic scroll]

if you don't forget to collect it first

final D2 run

oh man

[wintry sonnet]

things've been pretty dry on my end today too

[toxic scroll]

i've been hoarding mine

good joke

they never will

[tough burrow]

Subs aren't bad if you actually have equips

Now that

That is pain in the ass

[toxic scroll]

can't use the gear

if enemies don't spawn in the radius

[ornate mantle]

I like subs.

Fun to use.

Cute to see in action.

[toxic scroll]

cute

yeah

but if you get a crap sub spawn

area

w/e, it could be static for all i know

you won't really be using them

[ornate mantle]

I’d just let the Sirens get chased into the sub zone.

And boom, use them against the Sirens.