#avrora-general

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tough burrow
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in pr

stuck copper
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I think that's the reason

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KMS atm are so disappointing

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Don't even have a proper faction backline to use

tough burrow
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true

stuck copper
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Not to mention the AA

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So bad

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Especially in higher worlds

tough burrow
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only tirp and zep

stuck copper
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Where everything is airbased

tough burrow
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and both are ssr

ornate mantle
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And event locked

tough burrow
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so crazy cost

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ye

stuck copper
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Yeah and from the same 1 event

dim crystal
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1st skill: Every time someone enters defensive range it releases a 2ndary battery barrage that ignores armor type. (it covers basically all of the screen). 10 sec cooldown.
2nd skill: odd volley: reload increased by 50% (yap 50) and damage by 20%. even volley: crit rate increased by 20% crit damage by 50%
3rd skill: 100% to 70% HP: FP increased by 20% 30 to 70% FP increased by 10% under 30% damage taken reduced by 20%
FDG

ornate mantle
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It’s such a shame.

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Maybe there’s gonna be a huge KMS event in the future though.

dim crystal
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10s cd PEPEGA

tough burrow
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most kms actually event locked I think

stuck copper
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Remember Palp

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She's UR

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So naturally she's strong

dim crystal
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reload increased by 50%

stuck copper
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Think Spite + Sandy

dim crystal
stuck copper
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And yeah it makes sense

ornate mantle
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The o my KMS not event locked are Leipzig and the common drops from normal.

dim crystal
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literally godzilla

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right there

stuck copper
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Like I'm not gonna lie

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Fast shot

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Then huge crit shot

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Like Jean

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Is pretty silly

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Starts with higher damage

dim crystal
stuck copper
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As gets lower becomes a tank

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That's actually hilarious

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Especially with how strong she is hp wise

dim crystal
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well

stuck copper
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At 9k+

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Highest of BB's

dim crystal
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a do-everything boat

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so its 10k then

stuck copper
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Made even funnier

dim crystal
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with 12% buff

stuck copper
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With Graf Zep

dim crystal
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guaranteed

stuck copper
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And her 15% effective hp boost

dim crystal
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I'd oath FDG so fast

stuck copper
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But yeah she's nice

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Real nice

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I want to know georgia skills

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Actually I said 9k hp

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9889 <

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With oath is 10k+

dim crystal
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well

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shes a natural UR

stuck copper
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10448 hp

verbal obsidian
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all waifus are URs in my KOKORO

stuck copper
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At max

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Without gear

verbal obsidian
stuck copper
dim crystal
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  • 12 %
stuck copper
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That is 12%

dim crystal
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10.8k

verbal obsidian
stuck copper
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The wiki only calculates 6% oath

dim crystal
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really

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pretty low tbh

stuck copper
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Since people can't get rings

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Unless whaling

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Hence why 6% is the highest it shows

dim crystal
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people can buy stuffs without being a whale you know

wintry sonnet
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looks over to discord, sees people arguing math

stuck copper
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Yeah but lets be real

wintry sonnet
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NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERDS

stuck copper
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How many get gems like that

dim crystal
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shut up math is cool

stuck copper
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Without whaling

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I mean from what I can tell is that

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UR FDG

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Is mostly about HP than anything else

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Stat wise

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Most of the other PR botes are about the same level

dim crystal
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well I'd focus on FDG first thing

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on PR 2

stuck copper
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Gascog though

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168 reload

dim crystal
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for a bb?

stuck copper
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For a BB

dim crystal
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well PR ships are supposed to be OP

stuck copper
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Georgia is 163

dim crystal
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unless you are izumo

stuck copper
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Georgia honestly

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Is stupidly well rounded

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For a BB

dim crystal
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hood got powercreeped

stuck copper
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High damage, reload, AA

dim crystal
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hood in 2019

stuck copper
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She didn't get powercreeped

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She got decimated

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But yeah for me

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This cutie first

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She also possesses the only rainbow BB gun

wintry sonnet
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so now that Prinz lost the one thing she was best at, tanking

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can we finally get a retrofit for her

stuck copper
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Lol

dim crystal
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hmm what

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who

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georgia?

flat palm
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Azuma

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8000hp vanguard

stuck copper
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Yeah Georgia

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457mm main gun

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Rainbow

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Apparently it's AP rounds

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But if I recall

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It makes sense for her

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Because I'm pretty sure her skills make her decimate backline

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So naturally it makes sense she uses guns aimed to do that

flat palm
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New rainbow gun is AP yeah

stuck copper
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Cause if I recall she has boosted damage against med + heavy armour

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Which makes her a backline killer

flat palm
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I wish prinz was good, shes my fav starter ship

stuck copper
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Don't worry

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She'll get a Kai

flat palm
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Got her oathed and gna get her to 110 with roon farm too zz

stuck copper
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All UR Kai's so far

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Have all been old botes

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In the normal rotation

flat palm
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I just want her to do more dps and get a better skill

stuck copper
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Don't worry

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She'll get her turn

flat palm
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Her shield sucks compared to roon

stuck copper
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For sure

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I mean in a way

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That's why PR exists

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They're supposed to be the top of their line

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Kind of like how Georgia

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Is basically what Massa wishes it was

flat palm
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I guess so

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Roon is my fav of the PR ships, followed by yeptune

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Id get monarch first if everyone else wasnt doing that already lol

stuck copper
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I want nep first

flat palm
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Im unsure on my second one

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Its between neptune saint louis and monarch

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Roon first 100%

stuck copper
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Btw found it

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All 6 of them

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Shown

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WTF

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Georgia has an artillery barrage lol

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Also wow

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Her gun arc

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Is way better than normal

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Shoots low to the ground

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AP artillery into a spread HE barrage

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That's pretty sick

dense wing
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crazy

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very crazy

stuck copper
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Seems like

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She has a proc based barrage

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Lol gascogne

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Fires her shots separately

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What a meme

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80%

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100% crit

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Mate

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I want her even more

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She'll be a nice addition

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Btw do shells affect the crit damage?

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Because if so

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That's as insane as spite kai

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Btw

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What do you mean manual?

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Does she not work on auto?

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@last kiln

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Well what does it do entirely?

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Hmm

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She's not too bad without actually

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20sec guaranteed proc at least

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Which isn't too bad

flat palm
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Whats azuma skills like?

stuck copper
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I mean she's basically like Jean Barto

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Which makes sense

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French bote afterall

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But it does make her really good

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40% damage boost on top of the manual launch damage you have at base

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I'd imagine in PvE she'd be quite a monster

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Tbf though her reload is through the roof

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For a BB

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168 is pretty stupid

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I suppose

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It comes down to how good the PR guns are

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To compensate

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Tbf comparing against FDG though is kind of bad

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Since she IS a UR

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Hence why her skills are so stupid lol

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But isn't this technically

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The first set of actual UR ever

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Every other one has been a Kai afterall

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Jean Bart also is based entirely on one gun too

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You literally have no leeway with her MGM

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Otherwise you're gimping her

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She definitely is

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And also

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Let me check

flat palm
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Azuma > gascogne would be my order

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Azuma has this cool (barrage?) thats like a bb cone shot

stuck copper
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Her barrage looks pretty solid

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Tbf her icon is from what I can see on the wiki

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A BB icon

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Cause she's a super cruiser

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Not to mention

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A gun bote

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With 300+ FP

flat palm
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Yea her stats make her seem like a cruiser battleship

stuck copper
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She has literal BC FP

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Only she has MGM +1 and secondary gun has BB hp

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And is a frontliner

flat palm
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Apparently izumo is getting buffed?

stuck copper
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Is she?

flat palm
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Someonne said so

stuck copper
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They better

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She sucks

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Whoever decided to make her take more HE damage

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Was a clown

flat palm
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i wonder if izumo's buff from this patch will be available on en server on 26th -some dude

verbal obsidian
stuck copper
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It's literally the worst skill she could of had

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"Take more HE damage in a position where the things you're fighting all use HE"

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Genius idea from that guy

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Yeah

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She's her own classification

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Are they still working on AP buffs?

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What were the other georgia skills btw

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Cheers

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I read azuma instantly

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"Not sub"

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Whew

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Oh wait

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Georgia is only +1 MGM

dim crystal
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fake news

stuck copper
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Oh wait

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That's fine actually

dim crystal
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nice fake news sir

stuck copper
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Rand

dim crystal
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I'd know to not trust you

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from now on

stuck copper
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It's not a problem

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That gascogne only has MGM +1

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She has 180 eff

dim crystal
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well tbh we wont get them botes

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any time soon

stuck copper
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But at least

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We know they're actually worth farming

dim crystal
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also they missed their chances to create our own commanders

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those cats

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they are out of place

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those should be commander's skill

stuck copper
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Lol

wintry sonnet
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dunno what you identify yourself as, but I'm not a crazy cat lady

stuck copper
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But yeah 180 + 180 = 360

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Most BB's are around 390

dim crystal
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nice math

stuck copper
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Which is fine

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They won't lose much for missing a 3rd shot

dim crystal
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thats literally -33% dmg

stuck copper
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33% <

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I don't think so

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390 is 130 x 3

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In fact

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It might actually buff their damage

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Because they use twin shots

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Which means you are less likely to miss

flat palm
stuck copper
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Lol

verbal obsidian
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chibis!

lone sinew
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tmw you get gold sonar part from ch3 sos

verbal obsidian
lone sinew
vital edge
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Isn't the drop table based on your signal strength anyway?

oblique mantle
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It’s time.....

lone sinew
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welp gl

stuck copper
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Go for it Evil

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I like how the AA

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"B"

lone sinew
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wait is the kms one the only rainbow ship

stuck copper
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409 <

grim bough
stuck copper
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HMMMMMMMMMM

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Fried is rainbow

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So is Azuma

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Rainbow bote

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Gun ship cruiser

lone sinew
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sait

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wait

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shes called a super cruiser

stuck copper
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Yes

lone sinew
stuck copper
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Super cruiser

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She's not just a standard cruiser

lone sinew
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has dbz flashbacks

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you're not dealing with the average cruiser

stuck copper
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To go even further beyond

lone sinew
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AAAAAAHHHHHH

oblique mantle
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Rainbow or not

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I’ll shoot her ass down regardless

lone sinew
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its just weird that they are rainbow

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i mean

stuck copper
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Is it weird that they got URs though

lone sinew
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they are collab ships

stuck copper
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Perma ships though

oblique mantle
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Yes

stuck copper
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Not just time limited

oblique mantle
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But metalblood sucks

stuck copper
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Like most collabs

oblique mantle
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So they need it

stuck copper
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KMS really does need a boost honestly

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Most of their ships are really bad

oblique mantle
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I laugh when I read their skills

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Btw

lone sinew
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so they added a UR that will get stomped by rares

oblique mantle
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Stock up

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Gonna need it

stuck copper
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This is why I keep every bote

lone sinew
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wait

oblique mantle
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I don’t care about eldridge

lone sinew
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you got the new UI update

stuck copper
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Look what he's on

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He's not on EN

lone sinew
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i know

oblique mantle
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Never forget I am jp

stuck copper
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That is the new mechanic

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Fleet buffing

lone sinew
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but i thought they would give EN the UI update the same time

stuck copper
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Yeah don't bank on it

lone sinew
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i'd rather skip events if we got the new ui update

dim crystal
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damnit

lone sinew
oblique mantle
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Nah

dim crystal
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THE UI

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MY GOD

oblique mantle
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Relax

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It ain’t nothing special

vital edge
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Is that the new collab game?

oblique mantle
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Game? You mean event?

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Yeah

vital edge
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Event?

verbal obsidian
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youre all special to me

vital edge
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It's an in-game event?

verbal obsidian
vital edge
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I thought it was coming to the PS4

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That's what all the news has told me till now.

oblique mantle
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What the hell...it’s even longer now

vital edge
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Wait, I see it now

oblique mantle
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That’s going to be annoying

wintry sonnet
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and there she is

stuck copper
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Isn't this earlier than normal

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Perhaps another announce today

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Hmm

dim crystal
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new botes make the old ones look like chumps

wintry sonnet
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aah

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so Bellette is what we get

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wait, no

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postponed PR to may 5th

stuck copper
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AHHHHHHHHHHH

wintry sonnet
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cause shit happened

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LOL

stuck copper
wintry sonnet
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apparently PR update didnt go well for CN and JP

stuck copper
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What does that have to do with us though

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Unless

wintry sonnet
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aw...

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"HMS Little Bel"

stuck copper
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They were planning to give us PR 2

wintry sonnet
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I'm kind of disappoint that they changed Bellette to Little Bel

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now I'll have to oath her and change her name just to annoy people warShrug

verbal obsidian
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BELETTE or BEL-CHAN

ornate mantle
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WE GETTINNG BOTH SEASONS OF PR

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Ahhhhhhhh yus

stuck copper
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Who said that

ornate mantle
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And summer is coming up, get ready for those farming days.

stuck copper
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No one has said we're getting both

ornate mantle
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Well, I hope so.

wintry sonnet
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I think the reason they're postponing is because they were going to use the whole code from PR 2 for us

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so that they wont have to bother slicing it up and testing for future

stuck copper
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Don't get why though

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Since we won't be getting PR 2 for like 6 months probably

verbal obsidian
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smh shouldnt start spreading

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FAKE NEWS

flat palm
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wait why are people happy about no PR yet

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the slower we get it the worse

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it takes fking ages to do

stuck copper
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Better Aki

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Intern confirmed earlier

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We get no PR2

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So yeah

flat palm
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lul

stuck copper
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Maybe in the next century

wintry sonnet
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I'm looking at it from another angle

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if we're getting PR delayed

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it means the next big event is delayed

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meaning more time to get cubes back up

verbal obsidian
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im just happy with w/e they throw at us

flat palm
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you dont have to rush pr though

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you can do it whenever you want to

stuck copper
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PR is a permanent thing

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Seems stupid to skip the second part

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And if what others said is true

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About not putting in part 2 till everyone has grinded part 1

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Well it means we're not gonna see it for a long time

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We won't

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I don't even need to guess that

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They already said

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We won't get any more reruns till we catch up

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And since we keep getting delays

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I'm highly doubting we're gonna catch up

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You know what makes it worse

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The fact that it makes 0 sense

verbal obsidian
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aran i'll grind for u

stuck copper
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That "CN / JP is dying"

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"Therefore we're delaying EN"

verbal obsidian
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for gems

stuck copper
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Instead of just using the old patch

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For PR

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Like why try to mess around with it

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Use what you know already works

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But it doesn't

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If you put the base PR patch now

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You would only need to copy paste the later patch

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After they fix the kinks

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By trying to put the other in behind it

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It means you have to mess around with stuff

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I just don't see the point in prereleasing the stuff data wise

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When we're probably not getting it for 6-8 months

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Maybe longer

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Like if it was quicker

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I'd understand

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But I don't think they'd give it that early

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Considering the mechanic relies on 120

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Which was already mentioned to be at the second half of the year

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Which is at least 2-3 months

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At minimum

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I just wanted my nep to farm

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You know what makes it really stupid though

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@last kiln

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"We're gonna delay to do more testing"

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We already know the game is gonna break due to bugs

dim crystal
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little bel

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they ditched bellette also

ornate mantle
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Honestly, it looks like we’ve got a pretty big cube saving gap now.

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Can’t be helped.

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One thing fucks up and you fix it another thing is fucked up somewhere else.

grim bough
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I'm a POS Programmer and yes I hate our QA... For giving me a bajillion of things to fix one after another

ornate mantle
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I’m a biologist... looking to study cancer... only thing I need to “fix” is when signaling goes haywire.

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I direct everything to stop fucking up like a shitkikan.

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But before this gets more ot, I’m happy we get a large cube saving period

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So I can recover from stress rolling

stuck copper
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Rolling isn't even a problem for me

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Sees no date on the game news

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In before they tell us they can't give us her too

verbal obsidian
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hides cubes in pockets

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yeah i cant afford to stress roll anymore either

stuck copper
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I just wanted to start working on PR

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The longer it takes to get the more we get behind afterall

verbal obsidian
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eh if they dont think its a good idea so be it

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i'm sure they learned from their mistakes in previous servers

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but i'm probably wrong

stuck copper
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I don't think you quite get the point though

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PR is perma

verbal obsidian
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i dont understand lol

stuck copper
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You can just shove it in and leave it unlike other events

verbal obsidian
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i dont run their company

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so i'm sure theres a good reason

stuck copper
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No I mean with other events I get it more

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Since time limited stuff

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You don't really want to end up wasting all their time

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And make people unable to get stuff

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That I understand

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But a perma event that worked perfectly fine in the past?

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Would have been just easier to use the older build for it

verbal obsidian
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warShrug like i said they know better than we do

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idk what to tell u

stuck copper
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I think what made it worse is that someone asked about getting PR 2

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Intern said "depends how hard you grind"

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So never.png

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Most en be casual

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Like super casual

dense wing
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thats true they do know better than us

tough burrow
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In before they tell us they can't give us her too``` but they said when ![thinkZed](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/499452664619466762.webp?size=128 "thinkZed")
wintry sonnet
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they said in previous tweet

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april 26th

tough burrow
wintry sonnet
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in place of the PR that got delayed

stuck copper
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No that much I know

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But the missing date thing was a joke

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"Oh sorry that was a lie we meant that's getting delayed too"

wintry sonnet
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did you just "it's just a prank bro"

stuck copper
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Imagine if they did though

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They just prank us

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I'm a bit disappointed about getting it though since we're gonna lose PR BP's

ornate mantle
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@last kiln : I dipped about 80 cubes.

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Into stress rolling.

stuck copper
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Oh well shit happens

ornate mantle
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Yeah, it does.

stuck copper
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The only reason I dislike the reasoning really

ornate mantle
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I've gone up to 500+ cubes before, so I have no doubt I'll recover the cubes easily.

stuck copper
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Is the fact they said CN / JP

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Like it had some relevance to the server we're on

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Which is more confusing than anything

clear gate
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That might actually mean there is some relevance

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PR2 anyone? :3

stuck copper
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Only

ornate mantle
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Hell yeah mna.

stuck copper
clear gate
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I don't mind the delay. I wanted some downtime

ornate mantle
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My stress ends today, so I'm happy.

stuck copper
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They already said it wouldn't be PR2

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Which makes it more confusing

clear gate
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Also, mini Belfast

stuck copper
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How would PR2 a completely separate entity

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Affect PR1

clear gate
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I hear there's a PR1 change that's happening at the same time as PR2

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so maybe EN will get that

stuck copper
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I doubt it honestly

ornate mantle
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Don't doubt.

stuck copper
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We rarely jump mechanics

ornate mantle
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Believe in your EN Gods.

dense wing
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pr2 is still on the same page as pr1

stuck copper
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But the clients are very different in that sense

dense wing
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just different ships

stuck copper
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Since we don't have PR2 data on ours

dense wing
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I wouldn’t know in what ways theyre connected to our client

stuck copper
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I can say with certainty we don't have PR2 data

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Considering it's only just come out

dense wing
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im not gonna jump to conclusions though

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it could be anything related to the staff too

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en staff are still yostar staff

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and still work with china, who knows whats going on in their office

stuck copper
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Imagine if they're running around like headless chickens

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"OH NOES WE BORKED IT GUYS"

dense wing
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they could be helping cn services and have to postpone the testing of pr1 by themselves

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which is why theyre having the beta testers test it instead of just releasing it now

stuck copper
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Just disappointed that bel came before it

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60 bps we lose due to that sad

flat palm
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you know what the worst is

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about getting belchan before pr?

stuck copper
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Loss of 60 PR prints

flat palm
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belchan event gives pr ship prints yup

stuck copper
dense wing
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bel is compensation in senses

flat palm
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we've missed out

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on SO many

stuck copper
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But it's actually less compensation

flat palm
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fuckign pr prints

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from events

stuck copper
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When we lose 60 PR prints

dense wing
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I mean if you have a problem

stuck copper
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Which are stupid to get

dense wing
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rather than ranting about it here

stuck copper
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You talk like that would make a difference

flat palm
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No feedback i say will change when we get events

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though

dense wing
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and provide examples and helpful information

verbal obsidian
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@ornate mantle i'll trade u some lolis for all your oneesan ships

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k thx

stuck copper
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TooruShrug We're just venting a little because we know that what we say won't make a difference

verbal obsidian
dense wing
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I mean... as someone on feedback team... things that do more bad then good will most likely be reviewed by the staff but go off

stuck copper
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Being reviewed and actually having something done though

flat palm
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can't do much tho, whats done is done

stuck copper
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Are 2 very different things

dense wing
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and both are better than nothing.

stuck copper
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Actually doing nothing allows me to enjoy time more than explain to someone how something is bad when I know the outcome

ornate mantle
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Can't agree with that logic, but you do you my dude.

stuck copper
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Tbf some people just complained about it being little bel as a result

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Can't please everyone afterall

dense wing
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obviously noy

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but theres less backlash now

stuck copper
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I mean did you see sirius

dense wing
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way less backlash

stuck copper
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"Waaahh where's sirius"

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Sirius releases

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"Waaahh why did they release her"

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Literally can't win

wintry sonnet
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Sirius was quite a different beast altogether

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we had what, a day? two maybe

stuck copper
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No but the fact people complained after they released

wintry sonnet
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when it all unfolded

flat palm
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idk about other ppl but im happy as fuck they released her

stuck copper
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Just made it stupid

wintry sonnet
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at least this time we got a heads up week in advance

flat palm
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shes my most used ship

stuck copper
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Like who complains about it

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Gets her to come

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Then complains about her coming

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Like wut

dense wing
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I never asked for her to come

stuck copper
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Made no sense at all that didn't

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I never said you did

dense wing
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so im neutral on her arrival, but I dont see any bad about her arriving so I think its alright

stuck copper
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Exactly

wintry sonnet
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I was assuming she'd come since Intern got into a fight with some reddit guy over it

ornate mantle
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Assuming these are different people with different prerogatives.

stuck copper
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That's the right mindset

wintry sonnet
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and a week later she just up and vanishes

stuck copper
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Some of the people doing it though Azu

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We're some of the people ASKING for her to come

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Which makes it that much more fucked up

dense wing
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I dislike being told thats a good mindset kisaaa

ornate mantle
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Oh, you confirmed that?

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Then that's pretty stupid.

stuck copper
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I watched it go down

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Was ridiculous

dense wing
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feels like im being monitored and graded

stuck copper
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Sat there like

ornate mantle
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I'm just happy we get content.

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LUL

stuck copper
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"Why are these people complaining about getting what they wanted"

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I'm grading you forever in my mind

wintry sonnet
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complaining about her being added was dumb tho, I agree warShrug

ornate mantle
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I want my Ibuki.

stuck copper
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They complained cause they didn't have her

wintry sonnet
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you get to roll for all the rerun ships without having to get baited for them 6 months later

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like you did in VDIR

stuck copper
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Then complained when they didn't

wintry sonnet
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what's to complain

dense wing
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so much ranting fumizukiStare

stuck copper
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Who knows really

ornate mantle
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Yeah, I enjoy getting all the ships ASAP.

stuck copper
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I mean

ornate mantle
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I would have loved ISSS rerun.

stuck copper
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You know what's dumb Aquan

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VDIR for me

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Was probably harder than most

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Because I had none of the first run botes

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So I had ALL of them to get

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I didn't complain about that at all

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Despite that

ornate mantle
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Really? i think it's harder when you only need a couple.

stuck copper
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Nah because you see

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Chances are

ornate mantle
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Because it' like having fewer fish in the barrel to hit.

stuck copper
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You'll still use less cubes

wintry sonnet
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I got off free with VDIR, but I fully expected the same kind of crap that I get from regular construction, aka you got 2-3 new ships added, you won't see them in hundreds of cubes to follow cause you'll pull everything else

ornate mantle
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That's why I enjoy just getting reruns.

stuck copper
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Well I mean Azu

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Look at it like this

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Say you need 3 left

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If you roll from no botes

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You'll still get to that same point

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Only you have to roll prior to that point too

ornate mantle
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I mean, I see both perspectives to clarify Razzle. I just say I prefer the idea of having more options available to roll from.

stuck copper
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Which means chances are

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You'd need a lot more cubes

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Or rather a lot more cubes in a single event banner

wintry sonnet
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to me it's more that if you roll on a rerun when you have 4 out of 6 ships that were added in rerun, it just takes away the joy of getting new stuff

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cause you already got 4, meaning you have to snipe away at 2

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which is less enjoyable

stuck copper
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I finally caught up during VDiR

ornate mantle
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Both perspectives have Pros and Cons. I just don't like the idea of sniping for 1-2 ships when a total of 6-8 have a rate up as well.

wintry sonnet
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cause then you just end up pulling the previous ones and getting frustrated

stuck copper
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The thing is though Azu

wintry sonnet
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I know I got pissed off when I pulled 2 zuikakus

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before Yukikaze and mogami

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0.7% my ass

stuck copper
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Either way as you get more and more botes

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Even if you start with 0

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You'll still end up trying to snipe 1 or 2 anyway

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I had that trying to get nagato

ornate mantle
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Well yeah, but less sniping the better.

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And the chances of actually needing to snip decrease as you have 0 ships.

stuck copper
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I used a ton to get naga this banner

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Yeah but obviously

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You're gonna get ships

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So you'll end up at that point either way

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Amagi did it to me

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Naga too

ornate mantle
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It's a possibility yes. But the less sniping leads to less stress.

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I'd be more elated getting dupes when all are released.

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Then getting the Initial Run and the Rerun later.

stuck copper
#

I'm never disappointed by dupes

ornate mantle
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Because chances are I used resources to develop all the girls in that time frame.

stuck copper
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Oh that

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I get what you mean there

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I always get extra botes when I have them MLBed

ornate mantle
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So dupes have a higher than likely chance of disappointing at the rerun than if we had gotten the the rerun to begin with.

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And I'd chased girls all at once.

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Hence, Sniping Decreases, Disappointment, Decreases, and Dupes have far less of a repercussion.

stuck copper
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Ok that I get

ornate mantle
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Yeah man.

stuck copper
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And the fact that UR kais atm

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Have all been base starter botes

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Means we don't know if event botes can get UR kais yet

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As we've had none to confirm it

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Kind of like how this is mine right now

ornate mantle
#

I suspect we will eventually get the UR Kais.

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But the prospect of UR kai atm is to bring older ship girls up to speed.

stuck copper
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I really

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Don't want Enty Kai

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Pls no

ornate mantle
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I'd love an Enty Kai.

stuck copper
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Don't need an aneurysm

ornate mantle
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LUL

stuck copper
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Tbf

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The most needed Kai right now

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From my perspective

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Is PoW easily

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Garbage Tier bote

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Like don't get me wrong I love her

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But like

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She sucks so badly

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It's not even funny

ornate mantle
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I think the only reason why I have positive feelings at all for PoW is because of the anthology.

stuck copper
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Yeah

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Like

ornate mantle
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She was fucking great there.

stuck copper
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If we compared say

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NC and PoW

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NC eclipses her

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By a landslide

ornate mantle
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Does PoW increase AA.

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She gains boost per EU ship right.

stuck copper
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Yeah

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What also makes it bad

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Is that PvP wise

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She's actually useless

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Since the moment botes die

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Buff drops in effectiveness

ornate mantle
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Is it surviving boats?

stuck copper
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If my knowledge on most buffs like this goes

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They have to be alive

ornate mantle
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Oh dude, some ships have very specialized uses for either PVP or PVE.

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In PVE ships dying is ass.

stuck copper
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Yeah and for her

ornate mantle
#

But in PVP ships dying is whatever.

stuck copper
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It's double ass

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Because she literally ONLY has that gimmick

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If she didn't have just 1 skill

ornate mantle
#

I mean, if she's a PVE specialized ship... throwing her in a measuring stick based on PVP isn't too fair.

stuck copper
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She'd be better

clear gate
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One of the fun things is how Jintsuu's skill stacks with torpedo command

stuck copper
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Even in PvE though

clear gate
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speaking of interesting mechanical behavior

stuck copper
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She's useless outside of basically 6 man comps

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Like she's literally forced to be used in them

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To actually be anything other than just another BB

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And it's sad

ornate mantle
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I use 5-6 fleets combs for higher end content.

clear gate
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Yah, PoW sucks

ornate mantle
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Either way.

stuck copper
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I mean a good example though

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Look at Dork

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Dork is self sufficient

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You can bring her

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Do the same shit as PoW

ornate mantle
#

Oh yeah, comparing PoW to Dork is gonna go well, lmao.

clear gate
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I love PoW but damn she's so bad

stuck copper
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No but you get the point right

ornate mantle
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It's clear there are better options than PoW.

stuck copper
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You can just bring any other bote

ornate mantle
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But she's not unusable.

stuck copper
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With a skill

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And it's instantly better

ornate mantle
#

Yeah, can't argue there.

clear gate
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She limits your composition choices greatly

stuck copper
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She's essentially a bote with 0 skill

ornate mantle
#

Ehhhhh, I'm hoping off the train there.

stuck copper
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Cause you can't use her outside of USS

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And even IN USS

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If a bote dies

ornate mantle
#

USS has quite a few solid standalone options though.

stuck copper
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The only skill she has

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She loses

ornate mantle
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Enty, helena, Clevedaddy, etc.

stuck copper
#

Yeah that's kind of the problem

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USS has WAY superior botes

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So the one place she can go

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She sucks because the botes are just better in that faction

ornate mantle
#

Generally yes.

stuck copper
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Hence why she needs a kai

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Badly

clear gate
#

I really love PoW's design tho

stuck copper
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Yeah ikr

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She is so well designed

clear gate
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and her personality

stuck copper
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I mean I'll be real

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Even a second skill like

ornate mantle
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But she's still usable... she's obviously not going to be absolutely crazy, but yeah. She could get a Kai to give her something more defining.

stuck copper
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"Reduces damage of all USS botes"

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Even something like that

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Would make her better

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Because it synergizes with her first skill

ornate mantle
#

That seems a little borken.

stuck copper
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To make it more effective

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Does it?

ornate mantle
#

Hell yeah man.

stuck copper
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Graf Zepp has it

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I wouldn't say it does

ornate mantle
#

Yeah, but it's not like KMS has any frontline ships as strong as EU.

stuck copper
#

Yet

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Give it time

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Especially with Fried being a thing now

ornate mantle
#

Especially with how many amazing standalone options that EU has.

stuck copper
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Her + Zepp is a joke

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15% damage reduction on a BB with 10k+ hp

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I don't need to say how ridiculous that is

ornate mantle
#

Yeah, FdG deserves her UR status.

stuck copper
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Like you get what I mean

clear gate
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KMS needed the buff

stuck copper
#

KMS only sucks mostly cause of a lack of good options

ornate mantle
#

But imagine that with a broken frontline?

stuck copper
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Not so much because they're bad inherently

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I mean to be honest

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The new USS stuff

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Is gonna be pretty silly

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Monty / Seattle / Sandy Kai

ornate mantle
#

Literally the only thing stopping Zepplin from being broken with that skill is the fact that KMS doesn't have very many options to utilize on the frontline... Z46 currently being one of the best options, but is still not enough to hold it down. If USS got something along those lines it'd be fucking bannanas.

stuck copper
#

Actually it's less the frontline

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It's the backline

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Tirpitz is a huge gate

clear gate
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Can't use Tirpitz with FdG

ornate mantle
#

She's indeed a Gate.

stuck copper
#

And the only other backline

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Are literally the 2 BC's

ornate mantle
#

Basically The Sharks.

stuck copper
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That's it

ornate mantle
#

Well, KMS is missing a LOT.

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Atm.

stuck copper
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Sadly though

ornate mantle
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In both departments.

stuck copper
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Tirp is probably gonna be forever unable to do 3 backline

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Because no CV's were ever made

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Outside of Graf Zep

ornate mantle
#

Frontline and Backline options are both not enough to make KMS standout.

clear gate
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Forever alone

stuck copper
#

Unless they decide to make more

ornate mantle
#

They will eventually.

stuck copper
#

But yeah like

ornate mantle
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Or we'll get more IJN event.

stuck copper
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We don't need anything like

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Super broke

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To make PoW good

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Literally any skill that isn't her first

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Or better yet

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Make it so it stays full power

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Regardless of if they die

ornate mantle
#

I'd like some type of passive. Like Increase USS reload.

stuck copper
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That alone would make her much better

ornate mantle
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Or even Evasion.

stuck copper
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Know what I mean

ornate mantle
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Since that's still kinda RNG based.

stuck copper
#

Like "You gain power as long as you have a fleet of USS botes"

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Kind of deal

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Rather than needing them alive

ornate mantle
#

That'd be nice.

stuck copper
#

That way she's always suped up

ornate mantle
#

Maybe a conditional skill similar to Amagi.

stuck copper
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Yeah

ornate mantle
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Where you need 3+ USS ships.

stuck copper
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Cause just atm you can tell she's super dated

clear gate
#

Amagi is amazing even without the conditional part of her skill

stuck copper
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That too

ornate mantle
#

Ehhhhh, I'd say Amagi's passives are what maker her standout.

clear gate
#

Good at everything except AA

stuck copper
#

Oh he means

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Even without the super fast firing shot

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Her presence alone

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Is a joke

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That's more an extra bonus

ornate mantle
#

When you say it's a joke, I assume you mean its shitty, lmao.

stuck copper
#

Than something she needs

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Nay I mean super op

clear gate
#

Amagi: *exists*
Things: *dies*

stuck copper
#

The fast firing shot is just a bonus

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But definitely not something she needs

clear gate
#

It does make her that little bit stronger in PvP

stuck copper
#

Yeah but like

clear gate
#

where firing first is important

stuck copper
#

With the right comp

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You can ignore most shit anyway

clear gate
#

It doesn't matter, ik

ornate mantle
#

I'd say speed is pivotal in PVP.

stuck copper
#

Depends on what you're against to be honest

ornate mantle
#

That's why Akaga is still above other setups despite there being more interesting options.

stuck copper
#

There's a reason juneau is used

ornate mantle
#

Tbh, I'd love a rework of Zuikakus skill.

stuck copper
#

Since she basically says

clear gate
#

Akaga isn't hard to combat, just use smokes

stuck copper
#

I know this because

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I've used Juneau

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And she counters early damage comps

#

Because she gets all the damage they do

#

And basically goes

#

"Nah fuck you"

ornate mantle
#

REVERSE

stuck copper
#

Which then puts you in the lead on damage to hp

#

And therefore means you'll most likely win

clear gate
#

I mainly use Belfast to deal with Akaga comps

stuck copper
#

Best way to deal with that comp

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Leander type smoke + Belfast

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First dodges torps

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Second dodges airstrikes

ornate mantle
#

True. The time between second air strike and first airstrike is when Enty and other options can usually nuke the Akaga comp.

clear gate
#

I use Belfast + Leander if I'm really worried about damage

wintry sonnet
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reminder that only sadists and sociopaths put Juneau in their pvp

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laffeyHide ff

stuck copper
#

Lol

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Oh right

#

Speaking of which

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I can start pvping properly soon

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I only need 1 level for sheff

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And 2 for spite

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I won't get fucked by level advantage now

clear gate
#

Sendai is Akaga's friend, flares help counter smokes

ornate mantle
#

Alrighty, i gtg

clear gate
#

o/

ornate mantle
#

Cya all in about 2-3 hours.

stuck copper
#

See ya Azu

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But yeah Revy me like

#

Trying to buff my HMS and USS

clear gate
#

Dork helped HMS a lot

stuck copper
#

Even better when we finally get monarch

clear gate
#

Did you mean Dork 2.0? ;)

stuck copper
#

And spite kai

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Btw I never really read that about dork

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But her skill