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I think that's the reason
KMS atm are so disappointing
Don't even have a proper faction backline to use
true
only tirp and zep
Where everything is airbased
and both are ssr
And event locked
Yeah and from the same 1 event
1st skill: Every time someone enters defensive range it releases a 2ndary battery barrage that ignores armor type. (it covers basically all of the screen). 10 sec cooldown.
2nd skill: odd volley: reload increased by 50% (yap 50) and damage by 20%. even volley: crit rate increased by 20% crit damage by 50%
3rd skill: 100% to 70% HP: FP increased by 20% 30 to 70% FP increased by 10% under 30% damage taken reduced by 20%
FDG
10s cd PEPEGA
most kms actually event locked I think
reload increased by 50%
Think Spite + Sandy

And yeah it makes sense
The o my KMS not event locked are Leipzig and the common drops from normal.
Like I'm not gonna lie
Fast shot
Then huge crit shot
Like Jean
Is pretty silly
Starts with higher damage

As gets lower becomes a tank
That's actually hilarious
Especially with how strong she is hp wise
well
Made even funnier
with 12% buff
With Graf Zep
guaranteed
And her 15% effective hp boost
But yeah she's nice
Real nice
I want to know georgia skills
Actually I said 9k hp
9889 <
With oath is 10k+

10448 hp
all waifus are URs in my KOKORO


- 12 %
That is 12%
10.8k

The wiki only calculates 6% oath
looks over to discord, sees people arguing math
Yeah but lets be real
How many get gems like that
shut up math is cool
Without whaling
I mean from what I can tell is that
UR FDG
Is mostly about HP than anything else
Stat wise
Most of the other PR botes are about the same level
For a BB
well PR ships are supposed to be OP
Georgia is 163
unless you are izumo
hood got powercreeped
High damage, reload, AA
She didn't get powercreeped
She got decimated



But yeah for me
This cutie first
She also possesses the only rainbow BB gun

so now that Prinz lost the one thing she was best at, tanking
can we finally get a retrofit for her

Lol
Yeah Georgia
457mm main gun
Rainbow
Apparently it's AP rounds
But if I recall
It makes sense for her
Because I'm pretty sure her skills make her decimate backline
So naturally it makes sense she uses guns aimed to do that
New rainbow gun is AP yeah
Cause if I recall she has boosted damage against med + heavy armour
Which makes her a backline killer
I wish prinz was good, shes my fav starter ship
Got her oathed and gna get her to 110 with roon farm too zz
Her shield sucks compared to roon
For sure
I mean in a way
That's why PR exists
They're supposed to be the top of their line
Kind of like how Georgia
Is basically what Massa wishes it was
I guess so
Roon is my fav of the PR ships, followed by yeptune
Id get monarch first if everyone else wasnt doing that already lol
I want nep first
Im unsure on my second one
Its between neptune saint louis and monarch
Roon first 100%
Btw found it
All 6 of them
Shown
WTF
Georgia has an artillery barrage lol
Also wow
Her gun arc
Is way better than normal
Shoots low to the ground
AP artillery into a spread HE barrage
That's pretty sick
Seems like
She has a proc based barrage
Lol gascogne
Fires her shots separately
What a meme
80%

100% crit
Mate
I want her even more
She'll be a nice addition
Btw do shells affect the crit damage?
Because if so
That's as insane as spite kai

Btw
What do you mean manual?
Does she not work on auto?
@last kiln
Well what does it do entirely?
Hmm
She's not too bad without actually
20sec guaranteed proc at least
Which isn't too bad
Whats azuma skills like?
I mean she's basically like Jean Barto
Which makes sense
French bote afterall
But it does make her really good
40% damage boost on top of the manual launch damage you have at base
I'd imagine in PvE she'd be quite a monster
Tbf though her reload is through the roof
For a BB
168 is pretty stupid
I suppose
It comes down to how good the PR guns are
To compensate
Tbf comparing against FDG though is kind of bad
Since she IS a UR
Hence why her skills are so stupid lol
But isn't this technically
The first set of actual UR ever
Every other one has been a Kai afterall
Jean Bart also is based entirely on one gun too
You literally have no leeway with her MGM
Otherwise you're gimping her
She definitely is
And also
Let me check
Azuma > gascogne would be my order

Azuma has this cool (barrage?) thats like a bb cone shot
Her barrage looks pretty solid
Tbf her icon is from what I can see on the wiki
A BB icon
Cause she's a super cruiser
Not to mention
A gun bote
With 300+ FP
Yea her stats make her seem like a cruiser battleship
She has literal BC FP
Only she has MGM +1 and secondary gun has BB hp
And is a frontliner
Apparently izumo is getting buffed?
Is she?
Someonne said so
They better
She sucks
Whoever decided to make her take more HE damage
Was a clown
i wonder if izumo's buff from this patch will be available on en server on 26th -some dude


It's literally the worst skill she could of had
"Take more HE damage in a position where the things you're fighting all use HE"
Genius idea from that guy
Yeah
She's her own classification
Are they still working on AP buffs?
What were the other georgia skills btw
Cheers
I read azuma instantly
"Not sub"
Whew
Oh wait
Georgia is only +1 MGM
nice fake news sir
Rand
also they missed their chances to create our own commanders
those cats
they are out of place
those should be commander's skill
Lol
33% <
I don't think so
390 is 130 x 3
In fact
It might actually buff their damage
Because they use twin shots
Which means you are less likely to miss
https://youtu.be/X8OWWYaA9wI this is the best video Ive seen
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av36794724/ 에서 가져왔습니다. 벽람항로가 아닌 다른 MMD(보컬로이드)도 섞여있을 수 있습니다. 또한 이 재생목록은 단순히 '저장용'과 '공유용'으로 이용하고 있으며 에드센스 또는 비슷...
Lol
chibis!
tmw you get gold sonar part from ch3 sos


Isn't the drop table based on your signal strength anyway?
welp gl
wait is the kms one the only rainbow ship
409 <

Yes

To go even further beyond
AAAAAAHHHHHH
Is it weird that they got URs though
Perma ships though
Yes
Not just time limited
But metalblood sucks
Like most collabs
So they need it
This is why I keep every bote
wait
I don’t care about eldridge
i know
Never forget I am jp
Yeah don't bank on it
i'd rather skip events if we got the new ui update
damnit

Nah
Is that the new collab game?
Event?
youre all special to me
It's an in-game event?

Wait, I see it now
That’s going to be annoying
and there she is
new botes make the old ones look like chumps
AHHHHHHHHHHH

apparently PR update didnt go well for CN and JP
They were planning to give us PR 2
I'm kind of disappoint that they changed Bellette to Little Bel
now I'll have to oath her and change her name just to annoy people 
Who said that
And summer is coming up, get ready for those farming days.
No one has said we're getting both
I think the reason they're postponing is because they were going to use the whole code from PR 2 for us
so that they wont have to bother slicing it up and testing for future
wait why are people happy about no PR yet
the slower we get it the worse
it takes fking ages to do
lul
Maybe in the next century
I'm looking at it from another angle
if we're getting PR delayed
it means the next big event is delayed
meaning more time to get cubes back up

PR is a permanent thing
Seems stupid to skip the second part
And if what others said is true
About not putting in part 2 till everyone has grinded part 1
Well it means we're not gonna see it for a long time
We won't
I don't even need to guess that
They already said
We won't get any more reruns till we catch up
And since we keep getting delays
I'm highly doubting we're gonna catch up
You know what makes it worse
The fact that it makes 0 sense
aran i'll grind for u
Instead of just using the old patch
For PR
Like why try to mess around with it
Use what you know already works
But it doesn't
If you put the base PR patch now
You would only need to copy paste the later patch
After they fix the kinks
By trying to put the other in behind it
It means you have to mess around with stuff
I just don't see the point in prereleasing the stuff data wise
When we're probably not getting it for 6-8 months
Maybe longer
Like if it was quicker
I'd understand
But I don't think they'd give it that early
Considering the mechanic relies on 120
Which was already mentioned to be at the second half of the year
Which is at least 2-3 months
At minimum

I just wanted my nep to farm
You know what makes it really stupid though
@last kiln
"We're gonna delay to do more testing"
We already know the game is gonna break due to bugs
Honestly, it looks like we’ve got a pretty big cube saving gap now.
Can’t be helped.
One thing fucks up and you fix it another thing is fucked up somewhere else.
I'm a POS Programmer and yes I hate our QA... For giving me a bajillion of things to fix one after another
I’m a biologist... looking to study cancer... only thing I need to “fix” is when signaling goes haywire.
I direct everything to stop fucking up like a shitkikan.
But before this gets more ot, I’m happy we get a large cube saving period
So I can recover from stress rolling
Rolling isn't even a problem for me

Sees no date on the game news
In before they tell us they can't give us her too
I just wanted to start working on PR
The longer it takes to get the more we get behind afterall
eh if they dont think its a good idea so be it
i'm sure they learned from their mistakes in previous servers
but i'm probably wrong
i dont understand lol
You can just shove it in and leave it unlike other events
No I mean with other events I get it more
Since time limited stuff
You don't really want to end up wasting all their time
And make people unable to get stuff
That I understand
But a perma event that worked perfectly fine in the past?
Would have been just easier to use the older build for it
I think what made it worse is that someone asked about getting PR 2
Intern said "depends how hard you grind"
So never.png
Most en be casual
Like super casual
thats true they do know better than us
In before they tell us they can't give us her too``` but they said when 
in place of the PR that got delayed
No that much I know
But the missing date thing was a joke
"Oh sorry that was a lie we meant that's getting delayed too"

Imagine if they did though
They just prank us
I'm a bit disappointed about getting it though since we're gonna lose PR BP's
Oh well shit happens
Yeah, it does.
The only reason I dislike the reasoning really
I've gone up to 500+ cubes before, so I have no doubt I'll recover the cubes easily.
Is the fact they said CN / JP
Like it had some relevance to the server we're on
Which is more confusing than anything
Only
Hell yeah mna.
I don't mind the delay. I wanted some downtime
My stress ends today, so I'm happy.
Also, mini Belfast
I hear there's a PR1 change that's happening at the same time as PR2
so maybe EN will get that
I doubt it honestly
Don't doubt.
We rarely jump mechanics
pr2 is still on the same page as pr1
But the clients are very different in that sense
just different ships
Since we don't have PR2 data on ours
I wouldn’t know in what ways theyre connected to our client
I can say with certainty we don't have PR2 data
Considering it's only just come out
im not gonna jump to conclusions though
it could be anything related to the staff too
en staff are still yostar staff
and still work with china, who knows whats going on in their office
Imagine if they're running around like headless chickens
"OH NOES WE BORKED IT GUYS"
they could be helping cn services and have to postpone the testing of pr1 by themselves
which is why theyre having the beta testers test it instead of just releasing it now
Loss of 60 PR prints
belchan event gives pr ship prints yup

bel is compensation in senses
But it's actually less compensation
When we lose 60 PR prints
I mean if you have a problem
Which are stupid to get
You talk like that would make a difference
and provide examples and helpful information
We're just venting a little because we know that what we say won't make a difference

I mean... as someone on feedback team... things that do more bad then good will most likely be reviewed by the staff but go off
Being reviewed and actually having something done though
can't do much tho, whats done is done
Are 2 very different things
and both are better than nothing.
Actually doing nothing allows me to enjoy time more than explain to someone how something is bad when I know the outcome

Can't agree with that logic, but you do you my dude.
Tbf some people just complained about it being little bel as a result
Can't please everyone afterall
I mean did you see sirius
way less backlash
"Waaahh where's sirius"
Sirius releases
"Waaahh why did they release her"
Literally can't win
No but the fact people complained after they released
when it all unfolded
idk about other ppl but im happy as fuck they released her
Just made it stupid
at least this time we got a heads up week in advance
shes my most used ship
Like who complains about it
Gets her to come
Then complains about her coming
Like wut
I never asked for her to come
so im neutral on her arrival, but I dont see any bad about her arriving so I think its alright
Exactly
I was assuming she'd come since Intern got into a fight with some reddit guy over it
Assuming these are different people with different prerogatives.
That's the right mindset
and a week later she just up and vanishes
Some of the people doing it though Azu
We're some of the people ASKING for her to come
Which makes it that much more fucked up
I dislike being told thats a good mindset 
feels like im being monitored and graded
Sat there like
"Why are these people complaining about getting what they wanted"
I'm grading you forever in my mind

complaining about her being added was dumb tho, I agree 
I want my Ibuki.
They complained cause they didn't have her
you get to roll for all the rerun ships without having to get baited for them 6 months later
like you did in VDIR
Then complained when they didn't
what's to complain
so much ranting 
Who knows really
Yeah, I enjoy getting all the ships ASAP.
I mean
I would have loved ISSS rerun.
You know what's dumb Aquan
VDIR for me
Was probably harder than most
Because I had none of the first run botes
So I had ALL of them to get
I didn't complain about that at all
Despite that
Really? i think it's harder when you only need a couple.
Because it' like having fewer fish in the barrel to hit.
You'll still use less cubes
I got off free with VDIR, but I fully expected the same kind of crap that I get from regular construction, aka you got 2-3 new ships added, you won't see them in hundreds of cubes to follow cause you'll pull everything else
That's why I enjoy just getting reruns.
Well I mean Azu
Look at it like this
Say you need 3 left
If you roll from no botes
You'll still get to that same point
Only you have to roll prior to that point too
I mean, I see both perspectives to clarify Razzle. I just say I prefer the idea of having more options available to roll from.
Which means chances are
You'd need a lot more cubes
Or rather a lot more cubes in a single event banner
to me it's more that if you roll on a rerun when you have 4 out of 6 ships that were added in rerun, it just takes away the joy of getting new stuff
cause you already got 4, meaning you have to snipe away at 2
which is less enjoyable
I finally caught up during VDiR
Both perspectives have Pros and Cons. I just don't like the idea of sniping for 1-2 ships when a total of 6-8 have a rate up as well.
cause then you just end up pulling the previous ones and getting frustrated
The thing is though Azu
I know I got pissed off when I pulled 2 zuikakus
before Yukikaze and mogami

0.7% my ass
Either way as you get more and more botes
Even if you start with 0
You'll still end up trying to snipe 1 or 2 anyway
I had that trying to get nagato
Well yeah, but less sniping the better.
And the chances of actually needing to snip decrease as you have 0 ships.
I used a ton to get naga this banner
Yeah but obviously
You're gonna get ships
So you'll end up at that point either way
Amagi did it to me
Naga too
It's a possibility yes. But the less sniping leads to less stress.
I'd be more elated getting dupes when all are released.
Then getting the Initial Run and the Rerun later.
Because chances are I used resources to develop all the girls in that time frame.

Oh that
I get what you mean there
I always get extra botes when I have them MLBed
So dupes have a higher than likely chance of disappointing at the rerun than if we had gotten the the rerun to begin with.
And I'd chased girls all at once.
Hence, Sniping Decreases, Disappointment, Decreases, and Dupes have far less of a repercussion.
Ok that I get
Yeah man.
And the fact that UR kais atm
Have all been base starter botes
Means we don't know if event botes can get UR kais yet
As we've had none to confirm it
Kind of like how this is mine right now
I suspect we will eventually get the UR Kais.
But the prospect of UR kai atm is to bring older ship girls up to speed.
I'd love an Enty Kai.
Don't need an aneurysm
LUL
Tbf
The most needed Kai right now
From my perspective
Is PoW easily
Garbage Tier bote
Like don't get me wrong I love her
But like
She sucks so badly
It's not even funny
I think the only reason why I have positive feelings at all for PoW is because of the anthology.
She was fucking great there.
Yeah
What also makes it bad
Is that PvP wise
She's actually useless
Since the moment botes die
Buff drops in effectiveness
Is it surviving boats?
Oh dude, some ships have very specialized uses for either PVP or PVE.
In PVE ships dying is ass.
Yeah and for her
But in PVP ships dying is whatever.
It's double ass
Because she literally ONLY has that gimmick
If she didn't have just 1 skill
I mean, if she's a PVE specialized ship... throwing her in a measuring stick based on PVP isn't too fair.
She'd be better
One of the fun things is how Jintsuu's skill stacks with torpedo command
Even in PvE though
speaking of interesting mechanical behavior
She's useless outside of basically 6 man comps
Like she's literally forced to be used in them
To actually be anything other than just another BB
And it's sad
I use 5-6 fleets combs for higher end content.
Yah, PoW sucks
Either way.
I mean a good example though
Look at Dork
Dork is self sufficient
You can bring her
Do the same shit as PoW
Oh yeah, comparing PoW to Dork is gonna go well, lmao.
I love PoW but damn she's so bad
No but you get the point right
It's clear there are better options than PoW.
You can just bring any other bote
But she's not unusable.
Yeah, can't argue there.
She limits your composition choices greatly
She's essentially a bote with 0 skill
Ehhhhh, I'm hoping off the train there.
USS has quite a few solid standalone options though.
Enty, helena, Clevedaddy, etc.
Yeah that's kind of the problem
USS has WAY superior botes
So the one place she can go
She sucks because the botes are just better in that faction
Generally yes.
I really love PoW's design tho
and her personality
But she's still usable... she's obviously not going to be absolutely crazy, but yeah. She could get a Kai to give her something more defining.
"Reduces damage of all USS botes"
Even something like that
Would make her better
Because it synergizes with her first skill
That seems a little borken.
Hell yeah man.
Yeah, but it's not like KMS has any frontline ships as strong as EU.
Especially with how many amazing standalone options that EU has.
Her + Zepp is a joke
15% damage reduction on a BB with 10k+ hp
I don't need to say how ridiculous that is
Yeah, FdG deserves her UR status.
Like you get what I mean
KMS needed the buff
KMS only sucks mostly cause of a lack of good options
But imagine that with a broken frontline?
Not so much because they're bad inherently
I mean to be honest
The new USS stuff
Is gonna be pretty silly
Monty / Seattle / Sandy Kai

Literally the only thing stopping Zepplin from being broken with that skill is the fact that KMS doesn't have very many options to utilize on the frontline... Z46 currently being one of the best options, but is still not enough to hold it down. If USS got something along those lines it'd be fucking bannanas.
Can't use Tirpitz with FdG
She's indeed a Gate.
Basically The Sharks.
That's it
Sadly though
In both departments.
Tirp is probably gonna be forever unable to do 3 backline
Because no CV's were ever made
Outside of Graf Zep
Frontline and Backline options are both not enough to make KMS standout.
Forever alone
Unless they decide to make more
They will eventually.
But yeah like
We don't need anything like
Super broke
To make PoW good
Literally any skill that isn't her first
Or better yet
Make it so it stays full power
Regardless of if they die
I'd like some type of passive. Like Increase USS reload.
That alone would make her much better
Or even Evasion.
Know what I mean
Since that's still kinda RNG based.
Like "You gain power as long as you have a fleet of USS botes"
Kind of deal
Rather than needing them alive
That'd be nice.
That way she's always suped up
Maybe a conditional skill similar to Amagi.
Yeah
Where you need 3+ USS ships.
Cause just atm you can tell she's super dated
Amagi is amazing even without the conditional part of her skill
That too
Ehhhhh, I'd say Amagi's passives are what maker her standout.
Good at everything except AA
Oh he means
Even without the super fast firing shot
Her presence alone
Is a joke
That's more an extra bonus
When you say it's a joke, I assume you mean its shitty, lmao.
Amagi: *exists*
Things: *dies*
It does make her that little bit stronger in PvP
Yeah but like
where firing first is important
It doesn't matter, ik
I'd say speed is pivotal in PVP.
Depends on what you're against to be honest
That's why Akaga is still above other setups despite there being more interesting options.
There's a reason juneau is used
Tbh, I'd love a rework of Zuikakus skill.
Since she basically says
Akaga isn't hard to combat, just use smokes

I know this because
I've used Juneau
And she counters early damage comps
Because she gets all the damage they do
And basically goes
"Nah fuck you"
REVERSE
Which then puts you in the lead on damage to hp
And therefore means you'll most likely win
I mainly use Belfast to deal with Akaga comps
Best way to deal with that comp
Leander type smoke + Belfast
First dodges torps
Second dodges airstrikes
True. The time between second air strike and first airstrike is when Enty and other options can usually nuke the Akaga comp.
I use Belfast + Leander if I'm really worried about damage
Lol
Oh right
Speaking of which
I can start pvping properly soon
I only need 1 level for sheff
And 2 for spite
I won't get fucked by level advantage now
Sendai is Akaga's friend, flares help counter smokes
Alrighty, i gtg
o/
Cya all in about 2-3 hours.
Dork helped HMS a lot
Even better when we finally get monarch
Did you mean Dork 2.0? ;)














