avrora-general

[wintry sonnet]

unlikely

[ornate mantle]

Uhhhhhhhhh, I'd rather not get 2nd PR immediately.

[stuck copper]

[ornate mantle]

Azuma is my priority when 2nd PR comes about.

[stuck copper]

I'd like to... try Georgia

[wintry sonnet]

I mean I'd love to get the 2nd batch, but somehow I doubt they'd just let em have it

[ornate mantle]

I need more watermelon in my life.

[wintry sonnet]

catching up to JP's only a thing for specific situations

[ornate mantle]

I mean, I have no doubt the devs want us to catch up ASAP.

[clear gate]

Less scheduling is good for them

[ornate mantle]

But not letting people AT LEAST enough time to get all the PR ships is a little... mean.

[wintry sonnet]

I mean, granted, but I dont like the notion of pick and choosing

[ornate mantle]

The first wave I mean.

[wintry sonnet]

I get why they're doing it, it just doesnt sit well with me when the content rush is the name of the game

that said, I'm gonna enjoy myself with the PR ships

which I guess means I'm not gonna farm D2

on the offchance we'll get em next week

might as well grind to 30k points and get that 3m exp requirement going

[stuck copper]

Tbf

It's actually better

If they add the second half

Rather than wait

Since for one

You can't farm them more than 1 at a time anyway

Second

[wintry sonnet]

my thought exactly

PR is already a timeconsuming task

[stuck copper]

They need a certain exp of a certain faction

Which means

[wintry sonnet]

there's no benefit to hold back on gating it

[stuck copper]

You need specific botes to get the exp in the first place

[wintry sonnet]

unless

they're gonna do a WC

and do a swap of 1-2 ships

like they did with Grenville and Matchless

[stuck copper]

I doubt that honestly

I expect this will probably only do half one

As much as I'd like it otherwise

[wintry sonnet]

I could see reasons to do a swap, considering how we're getting 3 heavy cruisers

but the only DD in PR is in 2nd batch

[ornate mantle]

I personally like the first wave release only.

[stuck copper]

The only USS are also only in the second half

[ornate mantle]

I'd like time to develop and get all the first wave first.

But getting Azuma ASAP.

Is something I wouldn't mind.

[wintry sonnet]

Azuma and Fried* ftfy

[stuck copper]

Let me be honest

[wintry sonnet]

[stuck copper]

Gating it

Would solve nothing

As to even get 1

You have a bare minimum

Of like 3-4 days gating

Since the next parts literally don't unlock after a certain amount of hours

[ornate mantle]

It takes about 3-4 days to finish a PR ship?

[stuck copper]

Bare minimum

[wintry sonnet]

that's 3-4 just to unlock the ship right?

[ornate mantle]

That's not bad.

[stuck copper]

Yeah

That's the timer

[wintry sonnet]

then you gotta do the improvements

[stuck copper]

Not to actually get

[wintry sonnet]

since you dont MLB with purins

[ornate mantle]

Yeah, this is gonna be crazy.

[stuck copper]

That's just the timer alone

[wintry sonnet]

you gotta do that in research too

[ornate mantle]

Well this is exciting.

[wintry sonnet]

so essentially 3-4 days before you can even add the ship, then another who knows how long

before they get to peak condition

and you only get to work on 1 at a time

[ornate mantle]

I'm curious.

[stuck copper]

Yes you can only work on one at a time

And each

Has a lock on it

[ornate mantle]

Can you work on a IJN PR with an IJN PR boat?

[stuck copper]

Meaning to get all 6

[ornate mantle]

You should be able to right?

[wintry sonnet]

dont see why you shouldn't be able to

[stuck copper]

You're looking at at least 18 - 24 days

[wintry sonnet]

the requirement says it has to be a specific class and specific faction

[stuck copper]

Just on those timers alone

[ornate mantle]

Yeah, as long as that's fulfilled then it should be reasonable.

[stuck copper]

Which is why we said

Holding back the second half

Does nothing

[wintry sonnet]

I mean it's not like you're lacking in ships to use anyway even without PRs

[ornate mantle]

I get what you mean.

[stuck copper]

It's a long tedious process

So to hold them back only makes us more likely

To end up being stuck the next part that comes around

[ornate mantle]

Yeah, that's fair.

[stuck copper]

Considering it takes a month or so just to unlock the timers

In terms of actually clearing the conditions

You're looking at a lot longer

[wintry sonnet]

wait, wdym unlock the timers

isn't it that you pick the PR ship, start doing the unlock requirements and then start working on improvements?

[stuck copper]

No it has timers

[wintry sonnet]

[stuck copper]

You didn't know lol

Each phase has a timer

[wintry sonnet]

hypothetically

[stuck copper]

24 hour per phase

[wintry sonnet]

if you dont clear the timer before the next one unlocks

what happens

and if it's locked, does it not trace the progress at all?

[stuck copper]

From what I know

That's just to even start on them

Think of it as a daily lock

Or rather

Know how the events

Lock out the second half

It's like that

Only in 8 sections

[wintry sonnet]

but why tho

[stuck copper]

Don't ask me

[wintry sonnet]

it's a single player focused game

[stuck copper]

I didn't design it lol

[wintry sonnet]

what benefit is there to time-gating this

it's not like any of those ships are pvp monsters anyway

[stuck copper]

St louis is for one

[tardy violet]

Monarch

[stuck copper]

So is monarch

Roon also

[wintry sonnet]

they're usable but I'd hardly call them monsters

maybe Monarch I suppose

[stuck copper]

Also

"You can halt the development of a priority ship after waiting a 24-hour cooldown period (starting from the start of development), which pauses the quests relating to that ship, and afterwards begin development of a new ship of your choice. However, you cannot develop two ships at the same time."

"The Shipworks are a feature where you can develop special "PR" ships. In order to do so, you must first meet certain prerequisites, specific to each PR ship. Afterwards, you must complete a series of eight quests, which notably require you to earn 3,000,000 exp for ships of a specific type, dependent on the PR ship."

This too

[wintry sonnet]

ok, so hold up

are the timers for the prerequisites?

or for the actual improvements

You're loosing me here fam

[stuck copper]

The timers are for strengthing

But it still does take a bare minimum 6 days waiting

To do one bote

Fully

[wintry sonnet]

so you can still rush prerequisites day 1 then

[stuck copper]

Pretty much

[wintry sonnet]

ok, that's not too bad then

I thought the prerequisites were time gated

[stuck copper]

If you can score 1mil exp in day 1

[wintry sonnet]

you can propably do 3 mil too tbh

since you effectively can have 3 ships at once

[stuck copper]

Oh right

You need 5 T3 prints

So don't forget

[stuck copper]

As well as cubes

[ornate mantle]

Please make into emote

[oblique mantle]

So aquan

Just make one at a time

[stuck copper]

You also need to complete 8 pr projects too

[oblique mantle]

Since you use cubes for missions as well btw

[wintry sonnet]

T3 bps you say

and I didnt evne buy the ones in shop yet

[stuck copper]

5 per each build

[oblique mantle]

Ten cubes each time buddy

[wintry sonnet]

dont you mean 5

[oblique mantle]

Whichever

[wintry sonnet]

prereqs say 5 cubes

[oblique mantle]

Still used cubes

[stuck copper]

30 in total

For all 6

[wintry sonnet]

10 T2s, 5 T3 and 5 cubes

[oblique mantle]

And then my favorite

Grinding for exp

[wintry sonnet]

that's why I kept Furutaka and Kako at lower affection

[ornate mantle]

Oof.

[stuck copper]

Yes exp grinding

[wintry sonnet]

so I can throw them into a farming fiesta

[ornate mantle]

I like EXP grinding.

[stuck copper]

1mil to start then 2mil after that

Fyi

Dorm and Comms don't count

[ornate mantle]

I'm down to get my girls to 110.

[stuck copper]

[ornate mantle]

Hey, I have a few girls I still need to farm.

And like 70k oil in mail.

[stuck copper]

No I mean that you need to get actual exp and not by other sources

[ornate mantle]

I know.

Which is why i'm gonna be farming a fuckton.

[stuck copper]

But

We are getting some of the best shit

[ornate mantle]

And have the oil to fascilitate the grind.

[wintry sonnet]

out of curiosity, are prerequisites a one at a time deal too?

[oblique mantle]

No

If you decide to let all the missions be done hour lock wise

You can knock em all out

Accept the one million one

You gotta suffer

And then do the two mill

[wintry sonnet]

wait, I thought the hour locks were for strengthening

not for prereqs

[oblique mantle]

Strengthening?

Who told you that

[wintry sonnet]

razz

[oblique mantle]

[ornate mantle]

wtf is going on.

[flat palm]

monarch boys

but ill be going for roon first

[ornate mantle]

Aye Join the Party.

[flat palm]

roon > monarch > neptune

for me

[oblique mantle]

That shit ain’t strengthening nothing

[wintry sonnet]

I feel betrayed

[oblique mantle]

It is literally there to be annoying

[ornate mantle]

Ibuki -> Monarch -> Neptune

for me.

[oblique mantle]

You know is gonna strengthen them though? what

[flat palm]

i will change my mind on how early to get ibuki depending on

if we get her l2d instantly

[stuck copper]

We won't

We won't get it till next NY

[ornate mantle]

It'll be at NY.

[flat palm]

yea i guess so

[ornate mantle]

Yeah.

[flat palm]

with monty too

[stuck copper]

That's not even making a guess

[ornate mantle]

LOL.

[stuck copper]

Just obvious

[oblique mantle]

This shit right here

You need a ton

Good luck have fun

[ornate mantle]

After Neptune, I'll go for St. Louis.

Then Izumo, then Roon.

[stuck copper]

I wasn't referring to strengthing in that sense

[flat palm]

saint louis is super strong

[stuck copper]

Saint luigi

[ornate mantle]

[flat palm]

her jp name is Sanrui, so people dont think u mean st lewdis

[wintry sonnet]

ok Evil, can you give me a play-by-play on this shit. We get PR ships, I pick the ship I want, how long before the ship can arrive in my dock. Do I get to do all the prerequisites day 1 or do I have to wait for the timers before I can clear each one

[flat palm]

well, people call her sanrui

[stuck copper]

"If you decide to let all the missions be done hour lock wise
You can knock em all out"

[oblique mantle]

Okay

[stuck copper]

He explained that here

[oblique mantle]

Yup

[flat palm]

according to my cn friend, if you go super hard you can get one pr ship in like 1-2 weeks, the long part is waiting to level up their dev level?

[stuck copper]

You can basically

[oblique mantle]

All besides two

[stuck copper]

Just wait for all the timers to finish except the exp ones

[wintry sonnet]

You guys made it so confusing now I dont get what the hour lock is

[oblique mantle]

Which is the exp blegh missions

[stuck copper]

Exp basically

Can only be done as and when you get to it

[wintry sonnet]

is it a lock for prereqs, or is it a lock for upping their limit breaks

[stuck copper]

You can't basically earn exp before it

You have to do it at that step

Unlike the others

[wintry sonnet]

so I can only earn 1m first, then I gotta do the other nonsense before I can farm the remaining 2m

[oblique mantle]

Just treat it as a timer thats there to be annoying.

And keep you from being done fast

[wintry sonnet]

does that about cover it?

[flat palm]

theres 2 seperate missions, one is 1m xp, one is 2m xp i believe

[oblique mantle]

Yes

[stuck copper]

More like you can't get the exp prior to having it unlocked

[ornate mantle]

I'm lost as fuck.

[wintry sonnet]

ok, I think I'm getting it now

[stuck copper]

Basically if you earn 1mil exp

[oblique mantle]

Cool

[stuck copper]

But it's still locked

It won't count

[ornate mantle]

@wintry sonnet : Explain to my dumbass after please, gotta get to work.

[stuck copper]

Essentially

[wintry sonnet]

As I understand it

these timers on the right are the prereqs

and you can't do them in advance

[oblique mantle]

Yes

[flat palm]

i got my karlsruhe, prinz and leipzig ready to farm roon

[wintry sonnet]

so you can't farm 3m exp and be done

[oblique mantle]

Yes

[wintry sonnet]

you only get to do 1m, then wait for the timer, do the 2nd one which is research projects

[flat palm]

i love my yanderes

[oblique mantle]

Yup

[wintry sonnet]

then t2 bps, and THEN you get to do the last 2m

and then you wait more to do the remainder

[stuck copper]

Tldr

[oblique mantle]

So far neptune and monarch were the most worthwhile things I put work into

[stuck copper]

It's a huge time gate

That exists to piss you off

Nothing more

[oblique mantle]

Whoops

[wintry sonnet]

basically, you gotta wait for shit before you do shit

[stuck copper]

Yes

[oblique mantle]

Almost lied and said roon

[stuck copper]

You can't just skip

[flat palm]

i like pr even if its a time gate

[stuck copper]

Or do prior

[flat palm]

since i always feel like

[stuck copper]

You literally are forced to wait

[flat palm]

im working towards something

[wintry sonnet]

oh and the timers? Those are just for unlocking the basic 3* ship in your dock

[stuck copper]

Which in a way if I recall

[flat palm]

something to always do when no major events

[wintry sonnet]

then you get to work on the rest

[stuck copper]

Is exactly how it works in WxWs

[oblique mantle]

Eh? Your always working towards something

[stuck copper]

Hence the reason it exists

[oblique mantle]

I need them to give me georgia now.

[stuck copper]

Since PR is basically the same system as in WxWs

[flat palm]

i mean, i have every drop ship in the game, and caught up

[stuck copper]

Likewise Evil

[flat palm]

so i dont rly feel like i have any goals

[stuck copper]

I want georgia

[flat palm]

and imo PR will change that

[wintry sonnet]

same as WoWs? You mean I can p2w to the top?

[stuck copper]

More like the research system

[oblique mantle]

[stuck copper]

Requires you to farm exp

To unlock higher tiers

To farm those to unlock higher

[oblique mantle]

This is why I don’t wow

[stuck copper]

Hence why the exp system is in it

[oblique mantle]

I ain’t paying eightyfive dollars for one ship I want

[stuck copper]

Yeah lol

[wintry sonnet]

ok so far

[flat palm]

oh nice, kawa drop in d2

got 4 dupes now

[wintry sonnet]

right, so, we get PR ships, I pick the best girl Ibuki, I do 1m exp, wait on the timer, do next one, rinse and repeat, until I get to the cubes and pay those. I get Ibuki then

what's the next step

[stuck copper]

Yes

[flat palm]

Basicly yeah

[stuck copper]

You basically have to wait for those parts

[oblique mantle]

The next step?

[stuck copper]

As far as enhancing them goes

You need BP's

[oblique mantle]

:

[flat palm]

the annoying part i believe is waiting for dev level correct?

before their useable

[wintry sonnet]

I just get the 3* ship right?

[stuck copper]

Aka the gayest part

[wintry sonnet]

how do I get her to mlb lvl 110 from there

[oblique mantle]

You suffering for my entertainment is the next step when you realize how many bps you need

[stuck copper]

"343"

[oblique mantle]

[stuck copper]

Per bote

[wintry sonnet]

so is the dev level just a timer or do I have to do shit for it

like spamming development or someth

[stuck copper]

Basically what I showed above with the steps

Is locked behind a timer

The stengthening part

Is literally just

Get PR BPs

[oblique mantle]

Aquan stop

[stuck copper]

And lots of them

[oblique mantle]

You are overthinking it.

[wintry sonnet]

I need to know, the wiki's fucking confusing

[stuck copper]

It's really that simple

[oblique mantle]

There is nothing you can do to make the timer go faster

[stuck copper]

Tldr for you then

[oblique mantle]

Its there to keep you from being done faster

All it is

[stuck copper]

You wait for each part to clear the first half and get the bote

[wintry sonnet]

I dont want to make it fasterI mean I do but I just wanna know what the logical steps are

[stuck copper]

To make the bote better you just get PR BPs for that bote

Simple

[oblique mantle]

Logical steps? Just waiting or doing it each step

[stuck copper]

[oblique mantle]

Either one. You wait regardless

[stuck copper]

It's literally just this

It's a waiting game

[oblique mantle]

Its why I don’t focus on it as much

Doesn’t help what I need is random from bps

[stuck copper]

Generally the point of PR

[oblique mantle]

And I don’t wanna make them all

[stuck copper]

Is to basically always be working for something

While playing normally

[wintry sonnet]

so once I get her, I get the blueprints and as soon as I get enough, I can progress further up to the max

[stuck copper]

Yes

It's as simple as that

[wintry sonnet]

alright, now I get it

[stuck copper]

But the last part

[oblique mantle]

[stuck copper]

Does require 343

Hence why most people hate it

Cause it takes a while

[oblique mantle]

Its so unnecessary

[stuck copper]

Doesn't help

That the BPs

Aren't generalized

But bote specific

[wintry sonnet]

well, on the + side

i tlooks like you can still get em to lvl 110

[flat palm]

Yep

[stuck copper]

Yeah they have no level lock

[flat palm]

you farm xp like normal

[wintry sonnet]

independently

[stuck copper]

They can hit 120

Without any downside

At 3*

[flat palm]

Roon is funny in a way

she makes kms "worse"

[oblique mantle]

How

[flat palm]

because she makes every kms ship look garbage

[stuck copper]

Worse?

[flat palm]

except for her

[stuck copper]

Ah lol

[flat palm]

[oblique mantle]

She is there to rev up and get strong

[stuck copper]

She's basically

[oblique mantle]

But no bosses last that long

[stuck copper]

Prinz Eugen

[oblique mantle]

So she is a waste

[stuck copper]

On roids

[oblique mantle]

Just like zu zu and shoukaku are a waste

Their skill does the same exact thing as hers

[flat palm]

I want to hear her say UNFORGIVEABLE into my ears

[oblique mantle]

Rev up for more power

[flat palm]

roon instant wife

[stuck copper]

So who are people going for first?

[flat palm]

roon

monarch, yeptune

after that no clue

[stuck copper]

For me

Probably monarch or nep

Not sure who first atm

[flat palm]

neptune looks insanely good

her hp pool for a cl is massive

[stuck copper]

Neptune

[wintry sonnet]

ok, so if I dont fuck anything up, I can have Ibuki in 6 days after PR gets unlocked

[flat palm]

and good fp i believe?

[stuck copper]

Is basically

[flat palm]

yea shes phoenix

[stuck copper]

HMS phoenix

[flat palm]

but way better

[stuck copper]

With torps

[oblique mantle]

No

You can’t

[flat palm]

i like izumo design but sadly shes not very good

[stuck copper]

You think you can get 3mil exp that fast

Without dorm or comms?

[oblique mantle]

You are not going to farm that fast

[flat palm]

oh right, dorm xp counts doesnt it?

[oblique mantle]

I legit got bored

[wintry sonnet]

fam

[stuck copper]

Yeah dorm and comms

Do not count

[flat palm]

thats nice

[oblique mantle]

And stopped

[flat palm]

oh

[wintry sonnet]

I affection farmed Concord to 100 day 1

if I want something, I get it

[flat palm]

if you are one of those crazy hard grinders like agito etc

you can get a pr ship quite quickly i believe?

[oblique mantle]

Anyone can do that with a regular ship

Now we got prs

[flat palm]

on the farming department

[stuck copper]

PR can be got quickly but

[wintry sonnet]

I mean, you can use 3 ships at once for the exp part

[stuck copper]

You need to basically no life

[flat palm]

yeah

im gna do prinz leipzig karlsruhe tirpitz

and spam ch 8

[stuck copper]

Because they do require a lot of exp

[wintry sonnet]

I'm not gonna rush all 6 obviously

but for Ibuki I can make a one-time sacrifice

[stuck copper]

Should I remove QE for monarch

[oblique mantle]

What even was her skill again

[stuck copper]

Hmmm

Ibuki is torp

[flat palm]

isnt the hms comp like

monarch, duke, qe?

or what even is it

duke or hood

[stuck copper]

"Increases torpedo critical rate by 20%(40%), and critical damage by 65%"

[oblique mantle]

Whose hood?

[wintry sonnet]

who cares torpedo buffs

[oblique mantle]

Soon as you have monarch those two don’t exist

[stuck copper]

"15% (30%) activation upon firing torpedo: launches a special barrage (damage based on skill level)"

[oblique mantle]

You pair Monarch with her little sister and queen e

[flat palm]

monarch is ap barrage right

[stuck copper]

Yes

[flat palm]

yea it looks hella strong

[stuck copper]

But what makes monarch strong is also her bulky stats

[oblique mantle]

Cause it is

[stuck copper]

And her heal

As well as reload buff

[wintry sonnet]

I think I finally understand the symbolism

that cat is the shikikan after rushing to get Ibuki asap

[flat palm]

research is soo much info to take in

[wintry sonnet]

[oblique mantle]

Aquan please

And not really

Shits gated. Do it one by one or wait to do it all.

Finish part one

Cry about bp being shit rate from pr qiest

Cry about how you only get one or two and the hours for pr quest are absurd

Rinse and repeat

[wintry sonnet]

oh wait, I can wait till the 2m timer gets unlocked, then start spamming the quests one after another?

[oblique mantle]

....

Its like you just rolled past everything I said

[stuck copper]

We said that lol

I did say the timer

[wintry sonnet]

I dont even know where I am right now

[stuck copper]

Works like event timers

[wintry sonnet]

[oblique mantle]

Go to sleep

[stuck copper]

For the second part

Where it's locked

Then once it unlocks

It stays unlocked

Same thing here

[oblique mantle]

Your not you when you’re acting like sandy

[stuck copper]

Only there's more phases

[wintry sonnet]

I mean how can I not

[stuck copper]

Will probably

[wintry sonnet]

when I'm told that soon I'll be able to have this

[stuck copper]

Do Dork / Monarch / QE

Most likely

[wintry sonnet]

I'm having an eyegasm just looking

all the colors, all the legs and armpits

[oblique mantle]

You need to calm down

[stuck copper]

Until spite kai comes and ruins my day

[oblique mantle]

Ain’t that serious

[stuck copper]

I'm sad though

Neptune having 0 skins

[wintry sonnet]

seriously, for using really only 3 colors with different shadings

[stuck copper]

[wintry sonnet]

her cg is just so vibrant with colors

[oblique mantle]

I just want georgia

[stuck copper]

Yeah I want her so bad

Not to mention twin 456mm guns

[oblique mantle]

First priority come release for jp

[stuck copper]

The largest guns behind yama

[wintry sonnet]

uh, which one was Georgia again

[stuck copper]

USS BB

<

This pic

[oblique mantle]

The only one that stood out

[wintry sonnet]

oh, her

yeah she's aight

not quite the level of Fried for me but still respectable

[stuck copper]

I mean fried is cool but

[oblique mantle]

No clue why ijn got two more pr ijn ships again

[stuck copper]

The issue stems from the fact there's not many good botes for KMS

[oblique mantle]

But hey

Take what I can get

[stuck copper]

At least not yet

[wintry sonnet]

For me it's more "no clue why we got more cruisers and only 1 dd and 0 carriers"

[stuck copper]

Nah Evil is right

4 IJN

Is a bit

[oblique mantle]

Because fuck logic

[stuck copper]

Questionable

[wintry sonnet]

I mean you'd think we'd have at least 1 carrier in PR by now

[stuck copper]

Hell they could of done 2 CN botes

But decided to do more IJN

[oblique mantle]

I stopped thinking about what they could give a while ago.

Its better that way

[stuck copper]

True enough

[wintry sonnet]

tbf

[oblique mantle]

Less disappointment

[wintry sonnet]

if they added CN PR ships

you'd propably still have to use IJN to farm exp

[stuck copper]

I mean

French botes

[wintry sonnet]

like how Saint Louis needs USS ships

[oblique mantle]

Nah

Got my own cn girls

[stuck copper]

Tbf though

French needs USS

Because of 1 reason

[oblique mantle]

Compared to when that happened and we had none yet

[stuck copper]

There wasn't any french botes when PR came out

[oblique mantle]

Yup

[stuck copper]

Like right now

[wintry sonnet]

we'll find out soon

with how they handle Gascogne

[stuck copper]

Gascog

Should be french

Since there are a lot more now

[oblique mantle]

Weapon chick?

They sure love giving em spears and lances

[stuck copper]

They really do

[wintry sonnet]

oh wait, Iris Libre has no battleships

[stuck copper]

Yeah they are lacking them

[oblique mantle]

Still waiting for richiliu

[wintry sonnet]

the only french BBs are Dunkerque and Jean Bart and both are Vichya

[stuck copper]

Only one is atm Jean

Nah

Dunk is BC

[wintry sonnet]

they still count for PR

[stuck copper]

No but the point was

Jean is technically the only BB atm

As far as actual BB's go

[wintry sonnet]

yeah but I wa stalking in terms of usable ships to farm exp for pr unlocks

[stuck copper]

Yeah anything that is basically the same icon

Can pretty much be used

Outside of BBV

[oblique mantle]

I wonder how edge the ibo will get

[stuck copper]

Because those are special snowflakes

Who knows lol

[oblique mantle]

They added horns to the latest batch

[wintry sonnet]

wait, arent bbvs exempt?

[stuck copper]

Yes that's what I said lol

[oblique mantle]

Idk what to think when I saw it

Besides how bad they might make her

[wintry sonnet]

no I mean, can't you use bbvs for farming pr ships

[oblique mantle]

Try it out

I aint touching no ijn prs

So your on your own there

[stuck copper]

Aviation BB

So yeah

Looks like there's one thing they're not excluded from for once lol

[wintry sonnet]

tbf only IJN has those so I guess that's why they dotn show it for monarch

[stuck copper]

Yeah british have none

[wintry sonnet]

more importantly

PR ships means we're 100% safe from surprise Mikasa event

[stuck copper]

Yes

That's good honestly

Already melted a ton of cubes

[wintry sonnet]

cause after PR we're getting Kizuna Ai collab

so there's no room for mikasa event

which means we got at least 3-4 weeks before worrying about it

[stuck copper]

Btw

You wanted to know how strengthing works exactly

[wintry sonnet]

actually, now that I think about PR, we're not just getting ships

we're getting new toys to play with

[stuck copper]

Yes one of the best aux

For CA's ever

Here you go

The strengthening is directly tied to their stars

[wintry sonnet]

I assumed that to be the case since they dont have traditional limit breaks

[stuck copper]

Yush

[wintry sonnet]

but man, now I'm even more sad

we got Nagato before PR

we would've had some free universal prints in shop

[stuck copper]

We would if we did yeah

[wintry sonnet]

actually

now that I think about it

if we can level them up beyond 70 with no limit breaks

that means we can get them to 110

and they'll still have lb0 fuel costs

[stuck copper]

From memory

They have higher oil costs than most botes

[wintry sonnet]

yeah, 13 oil on Ibuki

but the consupmtion should be tied to strengthening right?

or did they foresee that and make their oil cost tied to level

[stuck copper]

Pretty sure

It's based on level

[wintry sonnet]

fuck

1-1 spam right off the bat it'll be

[stuck copper]

I mean

Base oil

Belfast

3

Base for neptune

7

They ain't stupid

[wintry sonnet]

she can go up to 12 tho

[stuck copper]

Yes

But starts at 7

Unlike belfast who starts at 3

Basically they gain less as they get higher

But have higher costs to compensate

At base

[wintry sonnet]

shit's gonna get costly very soon

[stuck copper]

It's because of the fact they can hit 120 without limit breaks

So they naturally bump up the base oil

That way you can't just cheese it

Since if I recall

It's 1 + 1 + 2

Per limit break

[wintry sonnet]

but CN can cheese without penalties

[stuck copper]

Well CN is a snowflake for that

[wintry sonnet]

I'd still rather get higher lvl enemies but the ability to use lb0 lvl 120s tbh

[stuck copper]

The issue with that

Is that if they full did that

You'd end up getting a point where people play the game without limit breaking

[wintry sonnet]

I doubt that'd be an issue, don't think you could do chapter 12 or 13 with just lb0 lvl 120s

[stuck copper]

I mean people clear them with pretty crazy things

[wintry sonnet]

but you lose out on extra mounts

and you kinda need AA on those chapters

[stuck copper]

Hmm

[ornate mantle]

Tbh, lets just collect pretty girls.

And Lewd them.

[stuck copper]

What do you guys think

[ornate mantle]

I need to bump up my Ibuki, Urakaze, Monarch lewds collection.

[stuck copper]

Should I get monarch first or neptune

[ornate mantle]

Do you like red or blue hair more

[stuck copper]

Now that's tough I like both

[wintry sonnet]

the correct question is, do you prefer tsun meido or glorious royal thighs

[stuck copper]

Damn that's definitely tough

Both are great options

[ornate mantle]

Do you like blue haired royal thighs or red haired royal thighs.

[stuck copper]

I like all thighs

[wintry sonnet]

mb, not tsun meido

ojou-sama meido

got her mixed up

skills done, now to get her to 100

[stuck copper]

Honestly

I'm feeling

Like I'll go Neptune

Everyone is 100% gonna go monarch for sure I know it

Besides ojou-sama meido

[wintry sonnet]

dont lump me with normies I mean within Royal Navy PR ships I'd go Monarch for sure

but in general my effort goes first and foremost to our sakura overlords

[stuck copper]

Lol

But yeah honestly

I will get both 100%

No question

I mean I have to by the laws of the world

It's my home

[wintry sonnet]

Neptune's your home?

didn't know you lived in Atlantis

[stuck copper]

Britain is lol

It's my own nation

So of course I have to colonize people

britain, on neptune

But yeah

You know easily that most will go monarch

I mean I can't blame them

She's amazingly strong

And cute to boot

[ornate mantle]

Ibuuuuuuuuki.

Then Monarch

Then Neptune

[stuck copper]

I want ibuki but

Since the skin won't be back for a while

She can wait

[ornate mantle]

I want to prep for that skin

Same with Monarch

Neptune doesn’t have a skin, so she’s not exactly top priority.

[stuck copper]

I'm prepping

For her eventual skin

[ornate mantle]

I might switch out Neptune and Izumo.

I want to prep for those who already have it.

[stuck copper]

Also

Neptune is a good grab

Being a phoenix for HMS

[ornate mantle]

Oh really, that’s pretty Poggers.

[oblique mantle]

Prep for those who have it? Are you talking pvp?

[flat palm]

Roon, monarch and ibuki are the ones i see everyone talk about going for first

[oblique mantle]

The only one to be worried out of that whole group is Monarch

Other two are meh

[flat palm]

When Neptune's health falls below 20%, recover 15% (25%) of max heath and increase reload by 30% until the end of the battle. Only triggers once per battle. @ornate mantle neptune heal skill

its pretty nuts lol

she also gets a 15% ap dmg increased skill

[clear gate]

Better Phoenix with higher oil cost

Some people will definitely still favor Phoenix for budget fleets

[stuck copper]

The reason the hp is so strong

Is because in WxWs

HMS botes have much stronger repair kits

[oblique mantle]

So are you saying the ijn ships in wow are garbage

[stuck copper]

Lol

[oblique mantle]

Cause those skills we got for em are

[stuck copper]

Ijn botes to be honest

In that game

[oblique mantle]

Makes me happy I don’t got some bias for once

[stuck copper]

Were really good at long range battles

And suck badly at closer range

[oblique mantle]

Mm

[stuck copper]

Like sniping

They were god like

But brawling

Not so much

[oblique mantle]

And what about the other nations wow wise?

[stuck copper]

USS naturally have amazing AA

French if I recall had weaker side armor

But amazing bow on armor

Some great gun placement too

Since dual guns on the front

Meant you could generally keep all guns on a target without showing broadside

[flat palm]

t5 boxes are a SCAM

[stuck copper]

Lol

[flat palm]

just got my 20k pt one, got a6m5

[stuck copper]

Imagine buying T5 IJN ones

[oblique mantle]

Never buy t5

[stuck copper]

Literally the worst faction

To get T5

[flat palm]

i didnt, i got one from the event

[oblique mantle]

This is the motto we have in jp

[flat palm]

[oblique mantle]

Oh

[stuck copper]

Like if it was USS / HMS / KMS

It wouldn't be that bad

But IJN

[oblique mantle]

Enjoy your free crane then

[stuck copper]

Nah they're just horrible

IJN just doesn't have enough good stuff to warrant actually getting golds from

[flat palm]

it would be ok if i didnt already have like 15 belguns, quad torps and 100mms

[wintry sonnet]

same, I have an overload on belguns

[oblique mantle]

Just do it like me

Equip all your ships

[wintry sonnet]

baracudas on the other hand, still only 2

[stuck copper]

And if that really old leak is anything to go by

[oblique mantle]

That’ll keep you busy

[flat palm]

gonna go watch lcs finals good evening shikikans

[stuck copper]

Where it showed a 6* IJN quad torp

[oblique mantle]

My favorite thing about the old pr picture we had when prs came put

[stuck copper]

Like if that's anything to go by

[wintry sonnet]

I still think it's a dick move for the cuda to be box-only

and not farmable ever

[stuck copper]

Even the current gold ones are gonna be unusable

[oblique mantle]

Is they showed us the edgeblood pr ship we would get now

[stuck copper]

Did you also know Aquan

[oblique mantle]

Horns and all

[wintry sonnet]

even the royal navy events dont have prints for it

[stuck copper]

That the HMS fighter

Is also box only too

[oblique mantle]

If you had good eyes to see where she was that is

[wintry sonnet]

seafang?

[stuck copper]

Yeah

Most of the HMS shit is box only

Which is annoying when you need the stuff

[flat palm]

im not looking forward to farming that DD gun in iris event

its good, but ugh

[wintry sonnet]

as if that wasn't bad enough too

royal navy shares planes with the bb guns

and not the good kind

seriously, how are we this late into the game and still without any better way of getting cudas

[stuck copper]

Like if this old thing

Is anything to go by

6* IJN quads

Would be hilariously funny

[ornate mantle]

I have a lot to farm.

So I think I’ll event grind Rn

Need to go for Kawakaze

[verbal obsidian]

Hi memers

[ornate mantle]

I need so much atm

I'm gonna start a lot of the IJN secretary quests when PR comes out.

When the hood gun gets removed what replaces it.

Shelling?

[lone sinew]

umm

why does nagato have 210% efficiency on aux gun

[ornate mantle]

Why not.

[verbal obsidian]

[wintry sonnet]

because she'd be underpowered otherwise

[warm bluff]

ya nagato needs to be buffed

[ornate mantle]

Hmmmmm, I’ll just give Hood the 410mm

Nagato/Amagi perm Hoodgun.

And then anyone else with a barrage gets the purple 410.

Tempted to get a second Atago gun actually.

[flat palm]

Nagato is 381 pve, 410 PvP

And we get aux shells after hood gun is gone if everything goes same

Thats only lvl 6 barrage nagato op

[ornate mantle]

Changing guns between PVE and PVP.

🤢

[flat palm]

She legit just obliterates the entire screen when barrage proc

[warm bluff]

i thought nagato would prefer the 410 in pve since her fp is decent enough for the regular bullets to do damage unlike with hood

[flat palm]

Nah, cause 40% is still low

Everyone on jp/cn does 381 pve 410 PvP

[ornate mantle]

Guessit depends.

410 for damage, and 381 for some extra RoF over the 410.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

410 might actually be a little better.

Well, hard one actually.

Both are great options.

But overall, I still think I'll be using 381.

[warm bluff]

i got a better idea, i'll use the gold 410 since its bullets are pretty

[stuck copper]

i gave mutsu golden AP gun

[warm bluff]

i give it to BBs when i dont want them to get mvp and steal exp

[stuck copper]

...thats a good idea!!!

[ornate mantle]

@warm bluff : As expected of the meta slave.

[warm bluff]

[stuck copper]

[ornate mantle]

[verbal obsidian]

@stuck copper

ok i did it

hopefully this 10x pull is lucky now

fk..

180 cubes no nagato

[flat palm]

I believe in you friend

Get that nagamom

[verbal obsidian]

she will come home

[ornate mantle]

Net Nagamon brother.

10hr cube commissions almost done.

[verbal obsidian]

[ornate mantle]

Still missing Kawakaze.

But today I'm gonna take the day off.

So I'll get straight to farming when I get home.

Farming and anime night.

[verbal obsidian]

farm for da waifu

[ornate mantle]

Kawakaze is worth.

I already have her skin too, so she must be mine.

Honestly, interlude monochrome is such an incredible skin.

You think it's kinda simple.

But the more I look at it, the more I appreciate and love the art style.

[verbal obsidian]

i like to dress up waifus

[ornate mantle]

Lingerie Kawakaze.

[rustic blaze]

Welp, we're getting monarch

[ornate mantle]

Fuck.

I'm in a work setting.

I want to open it.

I'll open it when I get home.

Yeah/

I need to expand my Kawakaze lewds collection.

My lewds collection is too big.

Need to clean out my Imgur.

Of old ass images.

[verbal obsidian]

u dont have a folder on your desktop of lewds?

[flat palm]

What anime azu?

[verbal obsidian]

senran kagura

[stuck copper]

Hello there, I am a very evil Commander, you can trust me!

[ornate mantle]

@flat palm @verbal obsidian : Fruits Basket

However, I should also watch Senran Kagura.

and read the doujins

[stuck copper]

MINNIE USELESS???????????????//

T0????????????????????????????????

[vital edge]

i take back all the shit i talked about minnie being useless
You assumed she was useless?

[warm bluff]

also minne is super cute too

[vital edge]

I knew from day 1 of her EN release that she was a better Phoenix

She was literally that.

[stuck copper]

disgusting. you do not deserve to have minneapolis

[vital edge]

Minnie doesn't need a healer for most cases

She combines her healing with dmg reduction

On top of that, her skill just screams "trash clear"

I love that killstreak skill of hers

Hmm, does anyone else have a killstreak skill?

[stuck copper]

use her with her sister astoria

Minneapolis performance in EX mode

[vital edge]

better than everyone who isn't a meta BB

:p

[stuck copper]

[rustic blaze]

I used minne to turtle up and win EX mode, I can't be bothered to dodge so much.. 😃

[vital edge]

Minnie is portland but 2 oil more expensive and hurts much more.

also, I just read Minnie's Dullahan just now

I misunderstood one effect included

it reduces incoming dmg by 10% for the rest of the battle

I guess she does work even better with support carriers

[rustic blaze]

Yeah, but that seems too overkill and probably further reduces the chance that Dullahan will even activate.. (unless the support doesnt' heal)

[vital edge]

Umm

It takes effect when Dullahan activates.

You can't activate the skill more than once per fight

Oh, were you talking about the carrier heal?

You're not trying to activate Dullahan on purpose

You'd actually want to avoid reaching that point at all

[rustic blaze]

Well, I do when I play her

[vital edge]

if any Phoenix-esque character activates their skill early in a fight, they're probs gonna die 😄

[rustic blaze]

I don't see the point of playing Minne if I'm planning to use Uni or Shouhou to heal her back up. I'd probably play Port Kai or Mog Kai instead.

[vital edge]

I just said she'd work better

I didn't say at any point she needed one, and even made that point earlier

the 10% dmg reduction lasts for the rest of the fight after Dullahan activates so it would be a large dmg fallback

[rustic blaze]

Yeah, my bad then. 😃

[vital edge]

lmao, moving on

Just got to D-1, been busy all week at work...

gotta see how bad EX-stage is sooner or later

[rustic blaze]

I just completed it earlier. Personally, it's pretty rough..

[vital edge]

Ain't even gonna touch normal mode. I just want to clear EX once.

[rustic blaze]

Since like Fallen Wings, I've never touched Normal Mode and just rushed Hard modes.. It's just a waste of oil if you're pretty stacked in ships..

[vital edge]

it's good if you have oil-saving fleets

No requirements on top of a very low bare minimum means you can farm drop exclusives on a budget

I have everything from construction already, so...

[rustic blaze]

My budget fleets are in the gutter. I just play 6 ships that are not at 100 affection and just spam them without regards to my oil..