#avrora-general

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stuck copper
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Outside of that

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Hyuuga is a nice friend to lone queen Tirpitz

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They're 99% the same

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time for some meme

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I expect fan doujin between derpitz and hyuuga sandyMeme

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HamMad lewd!!!

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well, Hyuuga is fine when solo-ing

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she buffs herself

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buff-ception

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THEY JUST ANNOUNCE HYUUGA KAI mutsukiStare mutsukiStare mutsukiStare z35wow

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hyuuga is good

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But yeah they're both pretty good

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I mean let's not forget

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That despite being what they are

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They both bring something IJN sucks at

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Actual good AA stats

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Hyuuga top tier mutsukiStare

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and all i want from ise is her retrofit skin. if i like the art, i quite frankly don't care about the stats.

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I don't like Ise due to her voice

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I love ise design sandyparty

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the same problem with Jintsuu though

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But seriously

slow drum
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I like hyuugas kai design a lot but it's funny that it's the only kai that makes boobs smaller

stuck copper
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Ise and Hyuuga kai was basically what Yama and Fusou aren't

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Actual good BBV

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Suppose that's part of the fact

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They also become BBV way earlier in the tree

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And fox better than cat sandyparty

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While Yama and Fusou don't get it till the end of the tree

slow drum
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aren't ise and hyuuga cats too?

stuck copper
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Ise I wouldn't say is a cat

slow drum
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just bigger cat sepcies compared to the nekos

stuck copper
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She seems closer to a fox than cat

flat palm
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ise is a fox yeah

stuck copper
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Ise be fox and Hyuuga be a Cat

slow drum
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yea makes sense to me

stuck copper
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Ise's tail too bushy you see

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And pointy

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And ears too long

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I will incredibilis Ise

slow drum
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hyuuga is a leopard I guess

stuck copper
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Yamafuso is kuroneko

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Leopard sounds about right

wintry sonnet
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o

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finally I can use the dupe ise/hyuuga I kept around for retrofit

stuck copper
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Yush

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Sirius is not a strong ship on her own, but her buff to carriers are disgusting

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I almost lost to a PvP fleet with Sirius + Akaga

slow drum
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sirius + double fox and enty/sara kai sandyMeme

stuck copper
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well, I don't hate Sirius, I hate fighting against her

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Tbf

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That's less Sirius being strong

slow drum
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I never saw her in pvp rip

stuck copper
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And more Foxes just being ridiculous

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She just enables them to be more ridiculous

slow drum
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floof akashiGem

stuck copper
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@stuck copper: well I said it, Sirius is not a strong ship on her own, but her buffs are disgusting

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at least they're worth farming 3-4 for half an eternity

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That's definitely true

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They're some of the few botes

slow drum
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I got them in 2 weeks with a bit of farming ^^

stuck copper
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That are actually worth farming

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That are SSR

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now let's think about Nakaga + Sirius

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how powerful would Akaga be?

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Think about this

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If helena actually worked on them

slow drum
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if yuudachi gets a kai she will be 100% worth it but atm she's just there a good dd but not good enough to keep up with the starter kais and nanoda rip

stuck copper
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Helena isn't compatible with Foxes

slow drum
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I will stay with tripple floof!

stuck copper
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besides, you don't want to rely on rng more than you already have to

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having to reset over and over again just to fish for procs is a pain

slow drum
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I stay floof slave akashiSparkle

stuck copper
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I don't have any objection against Akagi

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Think about this
If helena actually worked on them

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Key word

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If

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40% more damage

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Conditional sentence type 2

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Would just be crazy

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they would need to modify Helena to some extent to make her work with Akaga

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in that case, maybe Shoukaku and Zuikaku can somewhat fit

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Wait a minute

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Can't you just do

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Sirius + Nakaga

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At bare minimum you'd be doing 170% damage

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probably. i don't know how damage is calculated.

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where do you get that 170%?

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Nagato I think might be calculated differently

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because it matters a lot.

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No you're right

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165%

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But even then like

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That may not be accurate either

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"When sortied as the flagship: increases allied Sakura Empire ships' firepower by 4% (10%) and their reload and accuracy by 5% (20%). Additionally, increases Sakura Empire aircraft carrier damage (does not affect Aviation Battleships) toward enemy by 5% (20%)."

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Since this doesn't buff Avi

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Which means it might stack on top of all the Avi buffs

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that might be, although the calculation might be done differently

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but I'd assume they stack additively

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But yeah at bare minimum it should be like 145%

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With just sirius and foxes

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Nagato is kind of an odd ball since if it works like helena does

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It would stack on top

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well, both Sirius and Helena are squishy, so I won't field both of them at the same time

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No I meant more

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Because helena lowers enemy def

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every 20s is a very long time

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The 40% affects the entirety of damage you deal

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Which includes the buffs

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and she only procs 60%

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The point I was making incred lol

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Is that because it's lower enemy def it affects all damage you do

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Including the buffs

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And since nagato is worded like that

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I assume it applies after all buffs

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Since it doesn't buff Avi but your damage

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At least

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That's how the wording comes across to me

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maybe we should ask gurus

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I don't know if the buffs/debuffs stack additively or multiplicatively

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Like generally most games at least

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When you have a stat buff vs a damage buff

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sometimes, additively is more powerful than multiplicatively

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Damage buffs tend to apply after stats

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But yeah would need confirmation

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so the game might tone them down for some reasons

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Yeah that definitely happens at times

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170% damage is very ridiculous

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not to mention critical strike that deals 150% damage

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And don't forget

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if they stack additively, then 320% is unheard

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There's 2 of them

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So you have a ton of damage

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I mean enty already functions in a way

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Since she does 200% normally on proc

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x 1.4

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And you're looking around 280% already

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in this case, 280% > 240%

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Yar

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but you can't be sure if that stack in what way

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Well with defense nerfs

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That's how those works

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But like mentioned with nagato

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Nagato is a buff

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And we don't know buff priority

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yep, takes more 40% damage means damage * 1.4

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Tends to go with this

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Since Helena as we know nerfs defense

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You're already doing 200% damage

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So naturally 1.4x makes sense

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But with buffs

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It could apply naga first

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Then the others after

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But at least to my guess

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Should be Avi buffs first

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Then 20% on top of all the other damage

ornate mantle
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I’m addicted to rolling.

stuck copper
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Lol

ornate mantle
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And I now I have that Identity Change thing in my storage.

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I’ll be using it.

stuck copper
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What you gonna change to?

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Azu the Great

ornate mantle
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Thinking just Sea Slug

stuck copper
ornate mantle
stuck copper
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Sea Slug lol

ornate mantle
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Yeah.

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Or maybe Lewdu

stuck copper
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okay, so this is how I picture things:

- Sirius (supposedly) increase Akagi damage by 10%, which is now 110%, because 100 * 1.1 = 110%

- Nagato increases damage enemy taken from Akagi by 20%. Helena's debuff increases damage taken by 40%. I think in this case, the two stacks additively, which is 60%

- Final damage Akagi can deal is 110 * 1.6 = 176%```

Any though?
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It does sound possible

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But you did forget one part

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I don't count Kaga here

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Yeah lol

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It does even more with those two

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the hype will go down in a few days

ornate mantle
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@last kiln : Same.

stuck copper
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because subs have extremely limited usage

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like with the restriction on normal map

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Boom

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Skl 10 Sara

ornate mantle
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I don't think anyone here does.

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I want I-19.

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Because goddamn.

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She's fucking cute.

stuck copper
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well, anyone would want to lewd those puberty lolis

ornate mantle
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There is nothing Loli about I-19.

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But I'm ready for jailtime when I-13 comes out.

stuck copper
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The only issue I find with those calculations btw

ornate mantle
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I'm ay 375 cbes.

stuck copper
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Is that Naga and Helena buffs work differently from what I can tell

ornate mantle
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Because I can't fucking hold back.

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Ah fuck.

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Ise and Hyuga Retrofits are coming.

stuck copper
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"Additionally, increases Sakura Empire aircraft carrier damage (does not affect Aviation Battleships) toward enemy by 5% (20%)."

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"Every 20 seconds, 30% (60%) chance to increase damage that all enemies take by 20% (40%) for 10 seconds."

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Reason being is that Naga is a team buff

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Helena is a debuff

ornate mantle
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So I'm missing.

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Dace, U-81, and I-19 atm.

stuck copper
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Btw I just realized something

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@stuck copper

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Why has no one tried this combo

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With Soryuu / Hiryuu

ornate mantle
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Do SoHi launch faster than Akaga.

stuck copper
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nope

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Which is exactly why it could work see

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Akagi and Kaga have 50% launching time reduction for the first time

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Helena won't work with foxes because their launches

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Will never line up

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While the Sor / Hir or Skk / Zkk can

ornate mantle
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Well, That 50% reduction for the first time basically equates to 50% reduction all the time though.

stuck copper
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But think about it

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They have high damage

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If you had 40% more on top

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Of the other 2 pairs

ornate mantle
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OH.

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You were adding in Helena skill.

stuck copper
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You'd have a pretty insane amount of damage

ornate mantle
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Yeah, how long is Helena till active.

stuck copper
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8 secs

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Like 8 secs

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I use her with Sara / Enty

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Works wonders

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Enty works fine, she launches planes in around 22 s

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Like the two Kai sisters

ornate mantle
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Yeah.

stuck copper
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"141"

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Reload speed

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They'd work

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regarding damage Akagi can cause with Nagato + Helena, I got this from help:

(100 + 10 + 20) * (100 + 40) / 100 = 182%```
ornate mantle
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@last kiln : I'm getting unsettled at missing 3 subs.

stuck copper
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Yeah told ya

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Because her's is a defense reduction to the enemy

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that is even more ridiculous

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It means that if you have shit like enty with buffs

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  • Helena
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Because her damage is already sky high

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The more damage you have prior to helena buff

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The more damage you get out of it

ornate mantle
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Helena is just incredible.

stuck copper
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There's a reason she's T0 for bossing

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still, Enty is the queen in this matter

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none can surpass her double damage, not until Ranger procs like 6-7 times

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I mean to math it easy

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100% is normal damage

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140% with helena

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200% with double

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280% with helena

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So you get a good chunk of damage literally just because you do more at a base level

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It's the reason why CV USS fleet

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Is dumb as hell

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Since it's like 40% per bote

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But that's interesting Incred

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Seems nagato stacks just like a normal buff

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Despite it's wording

ornate mantle
stuck copper
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Man I took no damage from an Akaga comp

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Sandy and Jun are best AA

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When Sandy Kai comes out I'll have no issues with CV fleets again probably

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Also

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Sara finally skl 10

verbal obsidian
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how are my fellow perverts memers doing today

stuck copper
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Doing good

verbal obsidian
stuck copper
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Finally finished Sara with skls

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Just to max her out level wise

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I don't see depth charge dropping animation

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Strange, I see it

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I used Nimi in 3-5, and she just... got closer to the sub and bombed the fuck out of it

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there should be something dropping from Nimi

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but I don't see

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or maybe it happened too fast

verbal obsidian
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saratoga is a loli rooBlank ?

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is hammann even a loli either rooBlank

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^

stuck copper
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Pixiv art?

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Dm plox

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LOL

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use VPN then

ornate mantle
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Oh hell yeah more I-13 lewds.

verbal obsidian
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azu kun

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you need a therapist

ornate mantle
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That’s beside the point though.

verbal obsidian
ornate mantle
gilded mural
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is it worth to buy another hood gun for washington?

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so this gun is only good for ships with skill press barrages?

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like amagi

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i see
ill buy one anyway then , the one i have now is with hood

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ill give the new one to amagi

ornate mantle
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^

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Two is very desirable.

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3+ is if you’re feeling super splurgy.

stuck copper
ornate mantle
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Aye, congrats!

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99/10 SG Radar feelsWonky

stuck copper
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I have many from trying to farm for golden SG radar on 6-1 mutsukiStare

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The only non skill barrage

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That can use those guns

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Would be something like Dork

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Because of her damage buff

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????

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Lv 1 crush?

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Oh, secretary

verbal obsidian
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he must have touched her a lot

stuck copper
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mutsukiStare i hope next update brings ring pack

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sandyparty but i will buy monty ring regardless

verbal obsidian
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sandyparty buy me a ring too

stuck copper
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sandyparty 💍 we will become married

ornate mantle
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I would like that too.

stuck copper
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sandyparty 💍 we can be polygamy

verbal obsidian
ornate mantle
stuck copper
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I want to pull at least 1 sub REEEEE

ornate mantle
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I JIST WANT ALL OF THEM REEEE.

wet storm
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just REEEE

stuck copper
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I had spent 70 cube and only got atago and enterprise mutsukiStare

ornate mantle
stuck copper
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mutsukiStare who are u running from

ornate mantle
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Or I can do IJN 伊-13

verbal obsidian
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sandyMeme name yourself to something lewd

ornate mantle
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LEWD 伊-13

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Yeah, I hate google translate. That was the only thing really making me hesitate to switch it.

stuck copper
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Chinese read differently depending on context mutsukiStare

ornate mantle
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But after extensive research and plenty of google searches.

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The Japanese Sub is the only thing that really come outs out from those characters.

stuck copper
ornate mantle
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It’s also 伊13 in CN

stuck copper
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伊 is Kanji

ornate mantle
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So I figured the meaning gets across in both and google TL is just a doing whatever it wants.

stuck copper
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it had origin from Hanzi

ornate mantle
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Anyways.

stuck copper
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good for you

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I will remain incredibilis, although now I am nothing more than a saddibilis

ornate mantle
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I’m happy today.

stuck copper
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sandyparty yay

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But now u look like RPer mutsukiStare

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My life sucks. My third boyfriend is a jerk, my second boyfriend is blind, and my first boyfriend pushed me off the train. And now I am freezing to death. This can't get any worse.

wet storm
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i dont have any friends and my life is like paradise

stuck copper
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🤔

ornate mantle
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@stuck copper : Im fine with that, lmao. I-13 is my favorite girl to come out on AL thus far.

next onyx
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just logged in for the day. Holy shit, saving cubes recommended?

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was gonna roll for some sub girls

stuck copper
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Tldr

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New event coming

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Since subs are perma

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I assume they have a big event lined up

next onyx
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dang sounds good. I am excited

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are you guys doing one special build a day or sticking to one light build a day?

stuck copper
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Honestly

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I did about 40 special builds

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Apparently sub drop rate is pretty low

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I got U-81 and Atago

next onyx
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wow..that does not sound good

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think I will save for now then. thanks Razz

stuck copper
wet storm
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that was pretty rude
||Saving some cubes is strongly recommended after the maintenance instead of using all your cubes.||
"strongly"

stuck copper
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did 40 as well. got pretty much the same as razzles, but with an additional belfast.

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do not recommend, unless you have ressources to blow.

next onyx
wet storm
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wonder about next event then

stuck copper
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caught in the fangs of the gacha beast

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i bought dock space instead

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that's a good number

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Btw have to be honest but

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This is how sara feels to play

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Once you max her kai skill

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you saying she's worth it?

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Well I'm using her in pvp atm

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8 fighter / 10 dive / 9 dive / 10 cata / 10 cata

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And without even being maxed

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Using her with enty

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I'm completely annihilating Akagami comps

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So I'd say worth

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her kai skill seems juicy, yeah

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Yeah flood + burn

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We already know how op burn is alone due to BB's

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Man

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If only Lex got a kai now

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hmmm subs might be useful against those pesky triforce BBs

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once they're big and strong, that is

ornate mantle
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@last kiln : you fucking madman.

stuck copper
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I think the best part about her Kai though Cal

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Is not so much the skill

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While it's good

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The best aspects are definitely the reload speed

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She's way faster than pre kai

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didn't check her stats much. i usually just burn through the nodes.

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Well basically

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gonna check after this fight.

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the quest for agano

ornate mantle
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At least not now

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I’m tempted to go crazy and dip, but I’m too frightened by ISSS

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I must hold back.

stuck copper
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@stuck copper 110 - 130 post kai

ornate mantle
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You had like 150+ mail.

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LOLOL

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I spent 300 for name change which I don’t regret.

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I’ll get the subs at some point.

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LOL

stuck copper
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For reference

ornate mantle
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Smart man.

stuck copper
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Enty is 132 reload

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yostar be like "we told em twice, but they still pulling for subs. mattaku..."

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So you can see why

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She's much better post kai

ornate mantle
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When you’re whale who gives a fuck.

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Just get everything.

stuck copper
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If lexy gets a kai though

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Too godly

ornate mantle
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That’d be great

stuck copper
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This comp would just end up being even sillier for damage

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Just planes

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Planes everywhere

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Not to mention lexy and sara having their guns

lone sinew
stuck copper
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i don't know. comparing my enty with 10 less reload, it's only 0.27s

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Nah at max level

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And max bond

lone sinew
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I did a giant oof

stuck copper
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It's 132 speed for enty

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And 130 for sara

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It's minimal

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Oh right that isn't max bond

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just saying that's what 10 points do, diminishing returns excluded

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I forget

lone sinew
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I opened like 60+ boxes to try and get sub aux

stuck copper
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That's 100 bond

lone sinew
wet storm
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no sub aux atm

stuck copper
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139.4 for enty / 137.3 for Sara

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There

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Fixed

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we'll prolly get boxes tomorrow

wet storm
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from boxes especiaaly

lone sinew
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Oof

stuck copper
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Cause you have to remember Cal

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Being same level

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  • Kai
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  • same bond
lone sinew
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Also used all my cubes to try and get ssr German sub

stuck copper
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Yeah 81

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yeah

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The other two kms

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Are from OC if I recall

wet storm
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sub aux will be avaliable from exchage boxes (low grade) and from bp grind

stuck copper
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But yeah @stuck copper Are they both same level and same bond

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no, but i dont see how that matters. i was just looking what 10 points do

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Well because it wouldn't be 10 points

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It's literally 2

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Which is as far as the game is concerned

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Insignificant

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her kai grants her 20 reload. i just wanted to see what it did. is all.

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Ah

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and it's approximately half a second

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Well per kai you can definitely see the difference

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It feels amazingly sluggish in comparison

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Especially since every deploy

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Suffers from it

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i only picked enty, because mine has exactly 10 points less. made it easier to get an estimate.

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Yeah

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But in all seriousness

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Her Kai fixes 99% of her major issues

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Makes her really nice to use

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might uncap her then. problem is academy space. it's always full.

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Yeah definitely worth for sure

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Like when I tried before

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It felt not that great

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But now I use her with Enty

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And all I see

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Is the entire enemy fleet get melted

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Kind of like a horror scene

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i'm looking for an alternative to akaga, or just a cheap solo carrier in general

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Well look no further

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She's a really good CV

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because, while powerful, they're awfully restrictive

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it's always like "okay, i got the foxes, and then something with a big gun".

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Yeah the best part about USS

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Is that

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They don't really give a fuck what CV you use

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You can use pretty much any of theirs

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And you're good to go

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The advantage of USS lacking synergy

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It's pretty nice

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Btw guys

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"Only one Sonar is needed for all escort ships to allow depth charge attacks on submarines."

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Found it

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"A ship that is not equipped with depth charge equipment is required to attack the submarine at point-blank range, and reloads depth charges slower than those equipped with one."

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Yeah it's definitely not as bad as I was expecting

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Sucks that you need at least 1 sonar though

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Ok if you don't lose any botes at all but

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May not be so easy at higher worlds

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But it's fun to watch them do their thing

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Lol no kidding

ornate mantle
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LOL.

stuck copper
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Well

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Good luck

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On getting all those rainbow torps

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Kind of glad we only need 1 sub fleet

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12 rainbow torps would kill me inside

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Yeah special only

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Hmm

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What would you say aux should be used then?

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Or what do most generally recommend for subs?

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So no one uses the hunting range I see

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Interesting to note at least

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So basically dual rainbow or rainbow snorkel

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Makes it a lot easier to narrow down

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Wow

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I didn't know they got a new seaplane

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1600lb bomb too

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Man if they keep doing seaplanes like that

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BBV's may actually get a good thing to use

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Yeah it would be nice with the new seaplane

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Should definitely test it out

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Btw Rand

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"In regards to the Improved Storage Battery, Meowficers can do the same thing and it's a waste of auxiliary equipment slot for better auxiliary equipment like the Oxytorp."

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This is probably why no one uses it

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Well I mean this one alone

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When it basically does the job an aux does

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That could have something like rainbow torp in it

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It really makes you question it's worth

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Especially since 100 torp stat is nothing to scoff at afterall

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I mean imagine how ridiculous

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A full fleet of subs would be

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With 6 rainbow

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Understandable

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As the game goes on

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We'll all end up with like 30+ rainbow torps

ornate mantle
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It's bound to happen one way or the other.

stuck copper
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I can't get any subs longcryland

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says the guy that got all of them

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What mutsukiStare

ornate mantle
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Do you feel empty now.

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I'm eating Gyudon atm.

stuck copper
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I mean, i just want at least 1 more sub so my poor i-58 doesn't feel lonely kisaaa

ornate mantle
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Only other sub I managed to get of 40 cubes is... the bunny girl.

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The one with the underwater skin.

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Yeah, her.

stuck copper
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2/9 in 7%

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for goldens*

ornate mantle
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Subs are definitely not fucking around.

stuck copper
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And for elites...offf

ornate mantle
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LOL.

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Was the lack of a "don't" intentional?

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LOL.

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No kidding.

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I'm defintiely gonna start saving coins.

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Again.

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Going back to that coin grind I suppose.

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I will literally buy nothing from shop.

stuck copper
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7-2 mines

ornate mantle
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Running low?

stuck copper
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I skipped 10 full courses in the shop to get 0 subs laffeyDrink

ornate mantle
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Oof.

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I never skipped one and got 2 subs.

stuck copper
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I mean, 1 pack of 10

ornate mantle
#

I'm probably just gonna hold it off limits for a long whiel.

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I want to have a godly amount of coins for ISSS

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I still want I-19.

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And U-81.

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And Dace.

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But I'll hold off until AFTER ISS... or at least until after I get everything from that Gacha.

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Hopefully the daily build can bless my ass.

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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah.

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I told myself that Yesterday.

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But then a corner of my mind was like "Do you see I-19's tits? Are you going to wait for THAT?????"

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And i lost control.

stuck copper
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I know brother, i know

ornate mantle
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20 in the morning, 20 after my test, and 22 after I started resting.

stuck copper
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I only did around 80, because i had almost no coins

ornate mantle
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I mean, I only have 375 cubes now.

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I'm not like you guys that have 700+ cubes on the standby, lmao.

stuck copper
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I only have 220, i burned 200 extra trying to get another copy of ykkz kisaaa

ornate mantle
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Okay, so we're in the same ballpark then.

stuck copper
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My dream was to get 5 of her in my room

ornate mantle
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You knw.

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I wonder how the AL devs.

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Are looking after reading us.

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Spend these cubes.

stuck copper
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I couldn't even get 2 entyLUL

ornate mantle
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After warning us to not go hard, lmao.

stuck copper
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I mean, i totally ignored subs the first time they came out in jp

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But i decided that i wanted to give them some love here

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But the rate is just too low

ornate mantle
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Ahhhh, the only subs I'm super worried about now are event build subs.

stuck copper
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We also have to wait for Centaur

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She will get added to perm special build with a 2% rate for a short time

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So we could get subs while we try to get Centaur

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This would happen in around 2 months i think

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I am surprised we didn't get a 3x core data event yet laffeyDrink

flat palm
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yea its abit strange

stuck copper
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Looks like summer jeanne of GBF

flat palm
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summer jeanne yap

ornate mantle
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Whew

verbal obsidian
stuck copper
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Hello there, I am very evil, you can trust me!

next onyx
ornate mantle
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Hello, I am very lewd. You can trust me!

stuck copper
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Okay I do not believe you

ornate mantle
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But I said you can trust me.

stuck copper
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Okay I cannot trust you!

dim crystal
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i have given up on my 100% dream

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subs are the worst

stuck copper
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I can't allow to spare any cubes, that is

dim crystal
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i have 6.5 k gems here

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for a rainy day

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the equivalent of 220 cubes

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actually make that 242 cubes

stuck copper
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I found out

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Seiyuu for Hyuuga, Akane Watanabe, also voices Yuuki Rito fromTo Love-Ru

dim crystal
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well

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JP use female VA for dudes

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a lot

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goku is a female

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in fact

stuck copper
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I know

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but should anything relate to Hyuuga in this case

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I would like to know

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lewd Tirpitz

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mutsukiStare VA of alexander in FGO is also VA for jeanne

wintry sonnet
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you know, usefulness aside

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it's kinda refreshing how straightforward the sos missions are

stuck copper
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maybe I can use Erebus for this kind of mission

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currently I don't have any asw planes to give to my CVL

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and Nimi is probably going to do ASW for a while

wintry sonnet
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well

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Chaser can be useful even without the asw plane still

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but Erebus should more than suffice

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it's really about your vanguard doing shit

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so you wanna go cheap on your backline

stuck copper
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destroyers would be the best for this kind of mission

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poor little Nimi for getting bullied by a shitkicunt

wintry sonnet
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speak for yourself emileSip

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I take good care of my german secretary

stuck copper
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training her?

wintry sonnet
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she's on her way to be the first 200 affection ship in my fleet

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followed closely by concord

next onyx
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so uhh did I do something wrong or is it normal to not have aother sos signal after the tutorial? I have only done the tutorial one, have not gotten any others.

wintry sonnet
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you get a chance at 1 signal every 30 minutes

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up to 8 hours, in which case if you didnt get any, you get 1 arbitrarily

next onyx
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dafuq

stuck copper
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I... honestly don't care much about ASW

next onyx
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well, I am starting not to care about it, as well

stuck copper
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It only made Nimi feel bad

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still, it is funny to see Nimi approaching the subs and bombing the shit out of it

wintry sonnet
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so far I managed to push into chapter 6

stuck copper
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I think the maximum world we can get is world 7

wintry sonnet
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there's 1 thing I dont like about how subs operate tho

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you can't throw them into the long commission fumizukiStare

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either that or I can't find them on the list due to just waking up

stuck copper
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?

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what

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I just sent I-58 into 1200 oil commission

wintry sonnet
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maybe they were on the top of the list since they were assigned to a fleet

stuck copper
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also, putting I-58 into dorm right now

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back then in WW2, subs weren't too important as surface warships

wintry sonnet
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well, on the flip side I can throw them into sos missions for the exp and affection entyLUL

stuck copper
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didn't think they grew into a threat as they are now today

wintry sonnet
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ehh, actually they were a big threat

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mostly the german ones tho

stuck copper
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they make their show too late

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U-Boat were a threat to merchant ships

wintry sonnet
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germany was especially big on the submarine strats

stuck copper
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for warships, I think U-Boat would rather flee

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they will need to emerge after some times and become vulnerable to gun fires

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still, the presence of submarines can easily throw a fleet into disarray

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destroyers would then dedicate themselves to hunt sub

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before the arrival of destroyer escorts for USN and coastal patrol ships for IJN, it was the destroyers mainly and some light cruisers to handle subs

wintry sonnet
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you're underestimating submarines heavily laffeyDrink

stuck copper
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I don't underestimate them

wintry sonnet
#

just as a side note, I-19 holds a record for the most damage caused with a single torpedo spread

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within 1 torp spread, sunk Wasp, sunk O'Brien, heavily damaged NorCal

stuck copper
#

I mean that they made their debut as a proper force too late

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WW2 naval battles were still decided mostly by surface warships

wintry sonnet
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they were never meant to be a proper force warShrug

stuck copper
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but look at them now

wintry sonnet
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Unless you wanna argue that a proper land force can be made out of snipers

stuck copper
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they are menacing threat

wintry sonnet
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which was their goal back in WW2

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sneak in, line their shot, go invisible

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their goals now are completely different

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alot of them now are more of a mobile underwater missile platform

stuck copper
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still, I don't see them as an important asset to have

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mutsukiStare how does CVL fighting submarine work?

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they deployed anti-subs planes

wintry sonnet
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depth charges dropped from planes

stuck copper
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drop bombs, depth charge or activate radar

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so unicorn can fight them when doing SOS mission? mutsukiStare

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still, Enterprise being a fleet carrier can still fight against subs

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mutsukiStare really??

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her line indicates that

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she did mention that she might try to do ASW

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well, CV or CVL aren't important

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what's important is which planes they were fielding

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Commander? ...I'm starting to wonder if I can fight submarines.

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and here: Enterprise sunk the Japanese submarine I-70 after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

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z35wow wow!!

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in AL can she fight them?

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nope

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so we would have a petition to allow her to fight against subs mutsukiStare

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mutsukiStare yes!!!

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no lifer

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reading Jun'you's lines and instantly feel dreaded

wintry sonnet
#

I got nothing but white sonars so far entyLUL

stuck copper
#

KC Junyou and AL Junyou are two completely different one https://kancolle.fandom.com/wiki/Junyou

Kancolle Wiki

Appearance The Hiyou class wears a white blouse with red trimmings over a red dress shirt referencing their past as army-subsidized luxury passenger ships and a magatama for their tops. Their...

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which parts of her history make her AL incarnation so insane and somewhat... ignorant?

ornate mantle
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I’m gonna explain some shits.

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AL junyou is better.

vital edge
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I know I said I didn't need subs yesterday and it still holds very true

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but they. are. so. much. fun.

wintry sonnet
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whew, protected I-19's comment page from getting tainted with the low roll flexing

vital edge
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the typical "I got her in X rolls" flexing that nobody cares about?

wintry sonnet
#

yup laffeyDrink

vital edge
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Good job.

wintry sonnet
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managed to push those out

vital edge
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We don't need those and nobody actually reads those

wintry sonnet
vital edge
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I really hate these protecc comments

wintry sonnet
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2nd comment is what I pushed through in order to push the low roll comment to the bottom

vital edge
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like nobody can think of a snarky comment so they just spam those everywhere

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No thanks

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Hit me with an oxytorp over that

wintry sonnet
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funnily, my name doesnt show up fully anywhere because the 2nd part's too long mutsukiStare

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which I'm quite ok with

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still no sos recharge tho, so I guess I'm done for the time being

vital edge
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I've had 5 since last night

wintry sonnet
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I'm at chapter 6 right now, with 1 active mission

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gonna leave it there for now because you can't get dupe missions

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meaning the more you open, the better your odds at getting a new mission

vital edge
#

So the signal strength thing

wintry sonnet
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that's your max

vital edge
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lets you access SOS signals from further chapters?

wintry sonnet
#

well, sort of

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your signal strength is tied directly to your range

vital edge
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I want it to reach W8 so I can dual-farm Maya

wintry sonnet
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when you clear the highest available map, both go up by 1

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up to 8 I think

vital edge
#

perfect

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but clear though, meaning...?

wintry sonnet
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to unlock higher level of signal strength you have to clear the highest available sos mission you can do

vital edge
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you go for chapters one by one or based on how far we already are?

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oh

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That's easy enough

wintry sonnet
#

and you can manipulate the spawn a bit

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cause you can't get duplicate missions when you have one going

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so let's say you're up to chapter 7 and you use 3 signals

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and they're all previous ones

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then yo ujust leave them be

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because you can no longer roll them as long as they're up

vital edge
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So stock and spam

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gotcha

wintry sonnet
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pretty much

ornate mantle
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AHHHHH, day two of farming. Maya came home.

vital edge
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how many SOS charges tho?

wintry sonnet
#

and do the previous levels when they get close to expiring

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they're up for 12 hours when activated

vital edge
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I mean the usable ones

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before you use them and all

wintry sonnet
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signal strength

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whatever the number, that's how many you can stockpile

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at least I think it's that

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I know for a fact it's tied to signal strength, just not 100% if it's a 1 for 1 ratio

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oh and the higher your strength, apparently the better rewards you can get

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up to chapter 10 I think is where it caps out

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yea

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"Signal Sensitivity controls the maximum amount of SOS Signals you can hold. You will start at sensitivity level 1, and it will raise as your Signal Range increases. At level 1, you can store a maximum of 1 SOS Signal, and at level 2 you can store a maximum of 2 signals, and so on. Currently, the highest Signal Sensitivity is level 8. "

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so, in general, if you wanna dual-farm chapter 8, you get yourself maxed out on signals, then consume them all to unlock every sos mission and then whenever you clear 8-5 and pop a new signal, you'll get another 8-5

vital edge
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I go till ch5 for signal

wintry sonnet
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rinse and repeat until other sos signals start expiring, then clear those if you want the extra equipment chance, or just let them pass

vital edge
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so I get till 3

wintry sonnet
#

correct

vital edge
#

I'm hoping the farm isn't too bad

#

I want these subs to be useful

wintry sonnet
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so worst case scenario you cap out at 24 hours, 8 hour per charge, or earlier if you proc it during the 30 minute rolls

vital edge
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Well, enough of the solo sub strikes

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Time to go back to 11-4

wintry sonnet
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I might pop into 11-2 for a bit and just let the subs poke in at the end of battles

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to get exp credit

vital edge
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As for me, the dorm will be plenty until I-58 hits lv70

wintry sonnet
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no good torp? no problem

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all the torp stat sirenTentacles

stuck copper
#

sandyparty can u buy her skin for her

wintry sonnet
#

I dont like her schoolgirl skin

stuck copper
wintry sonnet
#

why would I trade off the godly combination of school swimsuit and kneesocks

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for a schoolgirl outfit

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does not compute warShrug

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that's like trading a T-bone steak for a soy cutlet

stuck copper
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mutsukiStare i see

wintry sonnet
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not saying soy cutlets are bad, just saying you wouldn't trade off something you value higher for something you value lower

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especially when paying's involved

stuck copper
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z35wow that is true

wintry sonnet
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Yuubari's suffering from the same condition

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her retrofit art makes her look 10 years younger

stuck copper
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mutsukiStare to make she look like young woman who have loli body

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so she wearing school outfit to 'tease' and give 'fanservice'

wintry sonnet
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still amazed the puritan party didnt vote through on her school outfit being on the banned list

stuck copper
tranquil sequoia
#

ink steel when?

stuck copper
#

warShrug we get one update per week

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and they did even send 1 gem in game notification to not to use all of our gems

wintry sonnet
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oh yea almost forgot

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gotta keep up with the retrofit game

vital edge
#

She was about to say what I think she was going to say, wasn't she?

wintry sonnet
#

Bootleg?

vital edge
#

Bootleg Amagi

wintry sonnet
#

gotim

vital edge
#

No wonder a lot of guys like Kaga

stuck copper
#

mutsukiStare bootlicker

lone sinew
ornate mantle
#

So how do we approach the Distress?

lone sinew
#

i have no idea

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😂 👌

wintry sonnet
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distress?

lone sinew
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the sub nodes

wintry sonnet
#

we went through the sub maps like an hour ago

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if you wanna look over it, search me saying "still no sos recharge"

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they actually added seirans

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1,6k bombs, 429 damage

dim crystal
#

Submarine Aircraft Carriers

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is this real

wintry sonnet
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I'm guessing right now only I-13 counts for that

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there's a few more

stuck copper
wintry sonnet
#

although I-19 and I-58 also were capable of equipping a floatplane

stuck copper
#

how does submarine carry aircraft??????

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they go underwater mutsukiStare

wintry sonnet
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they were stowed in the submarine

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and assembled on the spot

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the basic idea was to carry it underwater to the designated location, assemble them once the location is reached, let it do its shit and then it lands back, crew gets on the sub and the plane gets ditched

stuck copper
#

mutsukiStare that sounds very scary...

wintry sonnet
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I-400 were effectively the largest submarines built in WW2

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heck the I-400 could carry 3 planes at once

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I-13 was able to carry 2

stuck copper
ornate mantle
#

OH.

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So stack your Signals.

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Then use them once at a time?

wintry sonnet
#

if you have everything unlocked and want to farm a specific map

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priority should be to unlock max strength so you can stockpile 8 at once

ornate mantle
#

Yeah, I want to do that.

wintry sonnet
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then you basically open up distress signals until you get the highest you can

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and leave the old ones around until they get close to expiring

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so that you dont roll the duplicates and have a higher chance at getting the newest one

ornate mantle
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oooooh.

wintry sonnet
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after that, you just let them stack up to max, open them all up, then just do the map you want and leave the rest as is

ornate mantle
#

Such a... complicated mechanic.

wintry sonnet
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that way every time you open a new distress signal, you'll get the one you wanna farm

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cause that'll be the only one you can roll at the time

ornate mantle
#

Yeah, that's super convoluted.

wintry sonnet
#

it appears to be, but it's actually pretty straightforward

dim crystal
ornate mantle
#

How many signals can you stack at one moment.

dim crystal
wintry sonnet
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as high as your signal strength

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so 8 is the max

ornate mantle
#

And how can I check where my signal strength is.

wintry sonnet
ornate mantle
#

Gotcha.

wintry sonnet
#

as to how they recharge

ornate mantle
#

Every 30min right?

wintry sonnet
#

aye

ornate mantle
#

Get a chance at a recahrge.

wintry sonnet
#

up to 8 hours

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if you dont get any charge within 8 hours

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you get handed one

ornate mantle
#

Nice pity system.

wintry sonnet
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so anywhere between 30mins and 8 hours is what you gotta wait for

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right now I'm at chapter 6 so I've left chapter 4 signal up

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so that when I recharge, I wont end up wasting a charge on it

ornate mantle
#

Yeah, I have up to chapter 5.

stuck copper
#

mutsukiStare i just got chapter 4

wintry sonnet
#

oo

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we already have homing submarine torps z35wow

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I know what I'm aiming for then

ornate mantle
#

Oh Naisu

vital edge
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wait

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I'm getting whole equips from these distress calls

wintry sonnet
#

white ones you get the whole thing

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blues and above are designs

vital edge
#

This is a weird feeling

ornate mantle
#

Let it sink in.

vital edge
#

Not before my I-58 sinks again

warm bluff
#

so gold equipment is gonna take months to get? D:

vital edge
#

can't wait to refit my whole fletcher team with depth charges

ornate mantle
#

@warm bluff yeah, I need to stay out of special for a while.

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Going back to Light

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Until ISSS

warm bluff
#

i should go back to light because that's the responsible decision

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and denver

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but i want swimsuit botes

ornate mantle
#

In due time.

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For now we wait for Nagamon

vital edge
#

I'll try getting three subs total

#

but with only daily build

ornate mantle
#

I would try for three daily

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But then you’re negging cubes

#

And we need + cubes

warm bluff
#

i need gold more than cubes, got like 3 ships ready for retrofit, but cant complete them 😦

dim crystal
#

i did 100 cubes and got only 1 sub

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well

#

its daily 1 roll for me

#

still denver in light roll as well

vital edge
#

I have yet to get a constructed sub

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but hey, it's only day 2

#

I have a long time ahead of me to embarass myself with the next 1500 no-sub builds

ornate mantle
#

God the game just took a new level of hard.

#

In terms of resources this is the struggle period.

#

Since have god knows how many days till they start announcing ISSS content

stuck copper
#

Tbf

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That sounds like a you issue

#

Since you did whale massively for subs

ornate mantle
#

??????

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@stuck copper

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thinkZed I didn’t whale though.

stuck copper
#

?

#

Hmm

vital edge
ornate mantle
#

It’s Rando that whaled.

stuck copper
ornate mantle
stuck copper
#

Then how you down on resources?

ornate mantle
#

I mean, I rolled. I didn’t whale.

vital edge
#

We have Naga next event and we're being baited by subs

ornate mantle
#

Big differences

stuck copper
#

That's still being baited by subs lol

vital edge
#

the devs are definitely doing this on purpose xD

ornate mantle
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That wasn’t your argument though.

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I did get baited. I didn’t whale though.

stuck copper
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No the argument was still lack of resources