#avrora-general

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verbal obsidian
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take these oxy sodas

cosmic pier
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normie number

verbal obsidian
toxic scroll
cosmic pier
toxic scroll
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I'm running out of food

cosmic pier
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oh forgot to take a pic when it was at 4444 @verbal obsidian

glacial snow
cosmic pier
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go away half life

glacial snow
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waiting for the wow x al rerun collab

verbal obsidian
cosmic pier
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time for more sanshikidanception with kiri

toxic scroll
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probably will never happen

cosmic pier
glacial snow
cosmic pier
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nice moonrunes

toxic scroll
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looks extremely onesided to WoWs

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and nothing for AL

glacial snow
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Graf spee looking OK

toxic scroll
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unless you mean sticking out like a sore thumb

verbal obsidian
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bellFast wheres ibuki and izumo

glacial snow
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non existent

stuck copper
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only edgeboats allowed

cosmic pier
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ur an edgeboat

verbal obsidian
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dont u bully caldaria

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you lolicon

toxic scroll
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i mean

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you're right

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but that doesn't mean you need to say it

verbal obsidian
cosmic pier
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are you his dad or something

verbal obsidian
stuck copper
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Just in case someone didn't know: you can click and hold the food and your dorm will get full fast

cosmic pier
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that's like basics

stuck copper
cosmic pier
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cal u feelin bullied yet

stuck copper
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no. i like watching you fight. it's cute.

cosmic pier
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"Im using this pokemon cuz its cute"

verbal obsidian
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thats pretty much my fleets

stuck copper
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i like the creepy one that disguises itself as pikachu

verbal obsidian
cosmic pier
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my fleets are just ships I bully

verbal obsidian
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same

cosmic pier
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I made em not tell anyone I hit em

verbal obsidian
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beat them til they love u

stuck copper
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mimikyu

verbal obsidian
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woah people actually talk in the other al disc

cosmic pier
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they do

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I used to be there before I switched to here

verbal obsidian
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cant really tell what purpose that serves tbh

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i guess for the cn / jp news and stuff

cosmic pier
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its a discord where you wont get warned/banned for discussing the tiddies of your waifu

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also got nsfw channel n shit

verbal obsidian
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yeah just noticed the nsfw shit

stuck copper
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for the outlaws

cosmic pier
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hey I didnt get warned there for sending a line from the wiki

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weeee I love it when my kirishima shoots a sanshikidan shelling from my gold 410mm

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just to proc and then shoot her own sanshikidans

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ITS A PARTY

stuck copper
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You missed two

cosmic pier
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ooo paizurihorst ship

stuck copper
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Yush

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Lol

cosmic pier
verbal obsidian
stuck copper
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i cant look at scharn without feeling sorry for her

cosmic pier
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I like the way she clothes hammBite

stuck copper
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she deserves better art

toxic scroll
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I like the way she sits in my dock collecting dust

cosmic pier
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go keel her artist and draw her a better art and then make it be an skin

toxic scroll
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that or commission someone to make you a picture of her

cosmic pier
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weeee she just hit 90

verbal obsidian
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good good feed the jinbae

cosmic pier
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feeding her some chocolate and gourmets n stuff

verbal obsidian
toxic scroll
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man

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so many ships i'm not using

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so much gear to unequip

verbal obsidian
toxic scroll
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i think i'm done

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all the trash

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all the gear i need to recycle

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is there a list of gear that's literally useless

frail mulchBOT
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Equipment Tier List

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Please check here for full details on equipment statistics, here if you want to know which equipment is safe to scrap, here if you want to see which equipment comes from which boxes, and here if you want to know how it all fits together (heavy math warning).

toxic scroll
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thank you

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that second one is what i needed

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i know the gold BB guns are trash

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but i'm still gonna keep them

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just in case they ever get a fix

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even though i know it'll never happen

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the BTD-1 plane

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really?

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i get it only has 2 1600lb bombs

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but it's not terrible per say

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that list didn't help out as much as i was hoping

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because apparently swordfish are useful?

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hmm

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4 purins

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who do i mlb

next onyx
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trying to decide that myself with MkII Bulins. It's between Eldridge, Z46, Sirius, Victorious and PoW. Poor PoW, I got her during event and she is just stuck on lvl 70 because of my neglect.

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I think Eldridge might be the better one to invest in right now

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opinions anyone?

cosmic pier
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all of em

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I mean if it was me I'd go pow 46 sirius vicky eldridge

verbal obsidian
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Sirius victorious z46 eldridge

cosmic pier
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that's sorta rude

next onyx
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Honestly, Eldridge is low priority for me. (not a fan of her art). But I always hear she is good, which is why I said that. My personal lineup would be Sirius, PoW, Vicky. I want to start using PoW too cuz I have her awesome kimono skin.

cosmic pier
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+10 points for buying the skin

next onyx
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How could you not? One of the best skins. PoW looks fricking awesome in it. Like she just stepped out of the matrix or something lol

ripe mantle
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It is great

cosmic pier
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its so great even synd cant call it trash

toxic scroll
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i mean my PoW is still level 58

cosmic pier
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that's quite something

toxic scroll
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for the past 3 months

cosmic pier
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eldridge is mostly for pvp, to save your butt from lucky E n shit, she can be used in pve too sure, just as a "wait for it to proc then just go nuts with facetorps n stuff" I guess, aint really used her myself tho, so no exact evaluation of her GWowoHehe @next onyx

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got her mlb'd along with the rest of the ssrs anyway tho

toxic scroll
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now see

cosmic pier
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waiting to get used RaphiHehe

toxic scroll
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you forgot the most important part

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She's CUTE

next onyx
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@cosmic pier Thanks for the info. Makes sense and since I don't care about high ranking in pvp I can hold back on her for now. Aight screw it, I am gonna mlb Sirius and PoW for now.

cosmic pier
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give it bit more time and you'll get everything mlb'd anyway RaphiHehe

next onyx
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yeah, but I always try to mlb who wil be most useful first

dim crystal
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Thats correct

cosmic pier
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was gonna start scrapping my purins but hey we got ykkz announcement

dim crystal
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I have every sr mlb

cosmic pier
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gotta leave the scrapping for after mlb'ing ykkz

dim crystal
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With 6 spare gold bulin

cosmic pier
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but do you have an actual locked purin

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aiming to get to level 120

dim crystal
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No sir

next onyx
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well it's a good thing you don't need to limit break engineers lol

cosmic pier
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lol

toxic scroll
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maybe a vestal or akashi would be more useful for farming houshou than unicorn

dim crystal
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Well probably i ll do it

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Like right now

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Coz the bulins are super cute

ornate mantle
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God I love Deutschchlands Shark tooth.

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dim crystal
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A lot of effort for literally joke characters

ornate mantle
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And her Secretary lines changed!

dim crystal
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Deutsch has great free skin

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Lul

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Her l2d is meh

ornate mantle
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@dim crystal : I fucking adore her L2D skin.

dim crystal
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Really

ornate mantle
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Yep

dim crystal
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It just looks weird to mw

ornate mantle
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I think it’s very nicely done.

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Conveys quite a bit of her character type.

verbal obsidian
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whats going on

dim crystal
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The vampire princess skin

ornate mantle
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Which just attracts me.

verbal obsidian
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Stop ya lewdin!

ornate mantle
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No Hitagi!

dim crystal
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On the other hand

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Has little bats

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Flying around

ornate mantle
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So does the L2D

verbal obsidian
dim crystal
ornate mantle
cosmic pier
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your dock's gonna get scrapped

dim crystal
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Bulin in combat is weird as well

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Try it

next onyx
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lol true

cosmic pier
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gotta bully some more

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been doing 3-4 for foxhound

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she's suddenly super ultra rare

stuck copper
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it's always like that

toxic scroll
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i mean i did a few hundred runs just for 5head

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i feel like more than half the fight I do

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i don't get a ship drop

ornate mantle
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The ship that has taken the most runs out of me thus far.

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Has probably been either Honolulu or Maya/

toxic scroll
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i'd have to say for SSR

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maya

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for any other ship

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prolly 5head

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and i only wanted her for collection reasons

ornate mantle
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I wanted her for collection AND to use her when retrofits come out.

toxic scroll
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i already have the CVs i like using

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foxes, ent, shouhou, saratoga, uni

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and maybe one or two more

ornate mantle
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I can always use more.

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Never know when they'll be useful.

next onyx
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For me, it's Inazuma that took the longest to drop. Btw who is 5head? lol

ornate mantle
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So I'm like "Get everyone, raise everyone."

toxic scroll
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Souryuu

ornate mantle
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Souryuu

toxic scroll
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is 5head

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have you ever looked at the size of that head

ornate mantle
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Big Breasted Bunny.

toxic scroll
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It's MASSIVE

ornate mantle
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Her chest is too.

toxic scroll
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chest means 100% nothing to me

ornate mantle
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It means something to me.

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Not 100%, but a percentage.

next onyx
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ahaha true now that I think about it if you take away that piece of hair going across

ornate mantle
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I don't think that's hair.

toxic scroll
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i'm 90% positive that's not hair

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some sort of headband/accessory

ornate mantle
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Could be like a head band.

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LUL

next onyx
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oof, where does her hairline start then, it could be waay in the back lol

ornate mantle
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But yeah, I think it's holding up something.

toxic scroll
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without Hiryuu's headband, i don't think hers is that bad

ornate mantle
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Her hairline is visible.

toxic scroll
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not near as bad as 5heads though

ornate mantle
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LOL, it's attractive in its own way.

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I think Shangri-La also has that forehead deal and she makes it look cute.

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The only thing with Souryuu that I think a lot of people agree on is the headband accessory thing.

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Which is most likely a crown of sorts.

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for that circle that consistently appears on the back of her head.

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Her sprites make it look like hair though.

next onyx
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I think Shangri-la forehead is a lot longer

ornate mantle
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I love shangri-la's forehead.

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I want her Collectors Paradise skin.

next onyx
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she does make it work, though. I think she looks cute

stuck copper
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bunny retros look nice af

cosmic pier
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ur retro looks nice af

stuck copper
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i know

ornate mantle
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Bunny Retros are awesome.

cosmic pier
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dang

next onyx
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yeah they do. Hiryuu looks awesome

ornate mantle
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At first I didn't like Hiryuu.

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But the Retro poses really made that 180 happen.

next onyx
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She is ready to duel

ornate mantle
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She's ready to kick ass.

verbal obsidian
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Hiryuu is fking dope

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Her retro looks so cool

stuck copper
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you don't mess with her

ornate mantle
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They really did a good job with their Retros.

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I give them kudos.

next onyx
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well, looks like it's time to top up on gems soon. With new Hono skin coming out and I am assuming we are getting Yukikaze skins as well. Her skins are really cute especially the swing sama skin. I did not get any of the current skins this time around.

toxic scroll
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look at patch notes

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for next maint

next onyx
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oh it came out? I'll check it out

ornate mantle
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Yeah, YKKZ skin is included.

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I'm not too interested in any of the skins that have come out with this patch.

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So i'll be saving the gems I get this time around.

verbal obsidian
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WhalingSeason got my gens all set and ready

ornate mantle
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But damn do they look good.

toxic scroll
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i want another ring pack

ornate mantle
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Same.

next onyx
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^

verbal obsidian
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same.

ornate mantle
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If I were to buy a skin... i'd proably get the Honolulu one...

next onyx
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Indeed comrade

ornate mantle
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No fucker. Give in.

verbal obsidian
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Honolewd sandyMeme

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@stuck copper do et

next onyx
stuck copper
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no

verbal obsidian
cosmic pier
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honolewdlewd*

verbal obsidian
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but leggins

ornate mantle
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I'f I were to get a Honolulu skin, I'd get her beach skin.

verbal obsidian
ornate mantle
stuck copper
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1k gems on lewdis l2d is enough

next onyx
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I want her beach skin

ornate mantle
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Indeed comrade.

stuck copper
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i could have bought 50 dock space with that

ornate mantle
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I have around 300 dock space atm.

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But i want more.

stuck copper
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same

verbal obsidian
next onyx
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I have 250 but need more, but then I am like, those gems can buy lewd skins instead sandyMeme

ornate mantle
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Ikr, it's a struggle.

verbal obsidian
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Nothing but brother shikikans here in avrora

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big brain

cosmic pier
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"why waste 200 gems on 10 slots when I can retire 10 ships I aint gonna use in the foreseeable future and save the 200 gems"

ornate mantle
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We all comrade shitkikans.

stuck copper
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because they might get retrofits or something

ornate mantle
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Fair point.

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Saves a lot of the hassle later on.

toxic scroll
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trashing ships when you could be collecting one of every ship

cosmic pier
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I already retire ships that got retrofits tho Pepega

stuck copper
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and i just want one of every ship, yeah

ornate mantle
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Not buying space since it helps in farming long period.

next onyx
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gets shit tons of drops, but when it's time to lb or retrofit, gets no drops

cosmic pier
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not gonna like a ship just cause they get a retro

toxic scroll
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imagine being such a bad commander to your ships

verbal obsidian
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Rei is f2p

toxic scroll
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who come to you because they want to be useful

stuck copper
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and it's annoying when you can't farm half a day without scrapping

verbal obsidian
ornate mantle
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@verbal obsidian : Gems can be F2P.

verbal obsidian
stuck copper
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i don't know, i'm already pretty cheap. i consider buying dock space as paying my fair share. i don't really buy a lot of skins.

cosmic pier
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having one of everything is useless for me if I dont like em nor want to use em anyways, so they can get retired and go home for all I care, and if I want em later I can just farm a bit GWowoHehe

ornate mantle
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I'm IAP, but buying dock space is still hard.

cosmic pier
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ez stuff

ornate mantle
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Buying dock space is an investment in the end.

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A wise and hard one to make.

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Because cosmetics are such a desirable thing.

stuck copper
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it's hard when you buy a lot at once

ornate mantle
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I spent 2k Gems at one time.

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But tbh. I'd rather use gems on dock compared to when people buy gems to use them for Cubes and Gold.

wise tartan
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@stuck copper refrain from talking about your fetishes here

verbal obsidian
stuck copper
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noted

ornate mantle
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What.

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Anyways, yeah.

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Having dock space changed my farming though.

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I can go for a few days without having to clear space now.

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When I've used all the commons for enhance, I usually end up going back down to 168k -175k Space.

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Depending on if I'm trying to save girls for LB or something.

verbal obsidian
ornate mantle
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Waiting for dorm sets that I want.

verbal obsidian
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Lend me your coins shikikan

ornate mantle
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i would if it was possible shikikan.

glacial snow
cosmic pier
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HL...

ornate mantle
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I gtg, Gonna do some chores and watch anime while farming.

verbal obsidian
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Happy farming

ornate mantle
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God I fall in love with Deutschland harder every moment.

tranquil sequoia
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visitors in dyed red

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looks like i can save moar cubes smugBucky

vital edge
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Just a question

stuck copper
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I need Akatsuki, Mogami, Hyuuga

vital edge
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How the hell did Hood become a submarine?

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Please don't say she sank.

toxic scroll
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she split in two

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and then sank

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twice

vital edge
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Touché

dim crystal
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they keep releasing new limited dorm set

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over and over

vital edge
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But really, I didn't get to read into it but I do remember a few screenshots with her being a sub

dim crystal
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I cant clear out the permanent ones

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damn

toxic scroll
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victorious, atago, eldridge, NorCal, yuudachi

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kaga, DoY

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and both cranes need 3 purins to mlb

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which lucky 2 ships get mlb

stuck copper
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just discovered

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Gridley-class DDs are among the top fastest DDs in game, only surpassed by Le Terrible and Ayanami kai

vital edge
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Go for Dork

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:U

toxic scroll
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she's still lvl 78

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she can wait

vital edge
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I get the feeling you'll have an excuse for anyone I pick.

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xD

toxic scroll
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everyone else is level 90

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or 80 in Kaga's case

vital edge
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Dork was in the list so I picked the one who has late game spots

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North Carolina is pretty fun since her AA is ridiculously high

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I wouldn't pick Poi or Vicky from those, personally

toxic scroll
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i've got plenty of other carriers

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so

vital edge
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Lol, you left Yorktown alone

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She's pretty good if your main flagship gets beaten to shit :p

toxic scroll
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she's higher level than my hornet

vital edge
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Understandable since she's more useful than Hornet

dim crystal
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dorktown is actually pretty nice

verbal obsidian
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s m f h

dim crystal
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and screw you

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hornet is great

verbal obsidian
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^

dim crystal
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the us carrier trio are great

verbal obsidian
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hornet deserves a retro more than lex

vital edge
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I didn't say she isn't great

verbal obsidian
vital edge
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All I said as that Yorktown is more useful

dim crystal
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the "not dying" schtick

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is always good

vital edge
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not just that

dim crystal
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when combined with a ship like vestal

vital edge
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she's the only CV that punches back

dim crystal
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hiryuu say hi

vital edge
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Yeah, a single goodbye

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I would mention her at all if she didn't have to be be near dead

toxic scroll
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I'll go

dim crystal
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i stand corrected

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"only"

toxic scroll
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Atago and NorCal

dim crystal
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i maxed dorktown's two skills already

toxic scroll
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and I'll MlB eld from dupes

cosmic pier
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dorktown had 2 skills?

stuck copper
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Dork lvl 100 today

cosmic pier
stuck copper
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but lost motivation to train her

vital edge
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so no motivation to max skills?

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at least get them to lv6

dim crystal
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one of the first ship I get

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and shes 🇺🇸

vital edge
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So an eagle fucker

dim crystal
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no u

vital edge
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yes u

dim crystal
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no u

stuck copper
vital edge
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hmm

dim crystal
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*note

stuck copper
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Exactly

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EN is always bugged

vital edge
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What do we get if we already completed it before?

stuck copper
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So i expect another medal smugBucky

dim crystal
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2000 gold

vital edge
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At least make it like 50 gems or something...

dim crystal
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they cant be giving out too much gems

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that'd kill their monetization

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for example a person is 100 gem short for a ring pack

vital edge
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and they don't get enough from the people who keep at least 20k gems on them?

stuck copper
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They give you a free "flex medal that does nothing" when you get the sandy kai retro item 2 times LeanderXD

dim crystal
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they receive a free 100 gems

vital edge
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there's more people like that in this game than any other gacha game I've played

dim crystal
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and they bought the thing

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thats not a good money making scheme

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game is already generous enough

vital edge
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I get that the point of founding a company is to make money

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but they're very well supported right now

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not even close to FGO, but...

dim crystal
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fgo is hostile gacha

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they ride the coattails of one of the best VN novel series

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ever made

vital edge
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EN is a cesspool server

dim crystal
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?

vital edge
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I'm just quoting my friends who hate EN and stick to JP

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The server itself sounds neglected, if I'm not mistaken

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I gave it a week trial run and couldn't get into it, so I can't really say much on my own account

dim crystal
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you are talking about fgo?

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well

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they have like 5 people working on the thing

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5

vital edge
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that sounds terrible

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specifically for the 5 devs

dim crystal
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not dev

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the whole team

vital edge
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oh

dim crystal
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including dev

vital edge
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holy shit, that's a small team

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why did they bother expanding to an english community?

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that's several hundred times the size of JP playerbase on top of only being a fraction of the revenue

ornate mantle
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I’m back.

dim crystal
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Revenue```
ornate mantle
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FGO only has its name to back u#it up.

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Gameplay and rates are shit.

dim crystal
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well FSN is a hit

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a classic visual novel

vital edge
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I was talking about the difference between the JP revenue from external areas

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their majority of income is from inland

ornate mantle
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JP always has more revenue for the most part iirc.

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Because people work 13 hour days and have little to spend on.

vital edge
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the game market within Japan is a monster compared to the rest of the world

ornate mantle
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The anime/Gacha market is arguably the most profitable.

vital edge
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side comment: FSN was a shit VN

ornate mantle
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Main comment: FSN was a shit VN

vital edge
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Silly me.

ornate mantle
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I’m actually a fan of some of the FGO chars though.

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I adore Nitocris and Scathach.

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But that’s OT.

vital edge
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Hmm, I like the anime but not the gacha game

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and especially not the VN

ornate mantle
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I need to get Deutschlands affection to 200 again.

vital edge
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again?

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What did you do to your wife?

dim crystal
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every time ppl say fsn is shit

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I would be like

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sir have you read that vn?

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and they would be like

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no, but...

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after that everything they said is considered horse shit

vital edge
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I read through the VN and I was disappointed beyond all belief

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I should've just stuck with the anime

dim crystal
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so you like the anime and hate the vn?

vital edge
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Very much so

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I don't speak for everyone but myself though

dim crystal
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you are the special one then

vital edge
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I'm special

dim crystal
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so have you read much VN sir?

vital edge
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Action in a VN just doesn't hold much impact from my PoV

dim crystal
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anything you like?

vital edge
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I read a lot of VN's since I was 13

dim crystal
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sure, like what?

vital edge
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I've read even ones without voiced characters

dim crystal
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voiced is unimportant

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unless you can understand jap

vital edge
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Little Busters, ISLAND, IMHHW, Steins;Gate, Narcissu, etc

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Do I try to name them all, or....?

stuck copper
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@vital edge: talking about my Dork, both of her skills are 10 now, but I don't feel like wanting to field her

vital edge
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oh, then you're good

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I'm still waiting for Tricolour Story's translations

dim crystal
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so what among them do you consider "good"?

stuck copper
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Grisaia VN franchise is the best

vital edge
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ISLAND is the highlight of last season

stuck copper
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bloody, brutal, honest and dark

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and Kazuki is mai waifu laffeyHide

dim crystal
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you read based on seasons?

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I only read the bests

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also all those VNs are rather...recent

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have you read the top 10 vndb?

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like umineko, muv luv alternative and such?

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@stuck copper ye grisaia is nice

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but I only did some of the routes coz i dont like the girls that much

vital edge
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I only read through the first Grisaia

dim crystal
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but from the routes i did ? The quality is solid

vital edge
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After reading its Makina arc, I was losing interest

stuck copper
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only first grisaia has route

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the two remaining is straight-forward and linear

dim crystal
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i read the routes in labyrinth as well

stuck copper
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also, Kazuki best girl fite me hammBite

dim crystal
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putting eden on hold atm

vital edge
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Kazuki is kinky af

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10/10

stuck copper
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Kazuki is Infinity/10

dim crystal
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also @vital edge you could try reading some of the classic sir

vital edge
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Hmm, does any of the KEY VN's have remasters?

dim crystal
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like g-senjou, umineko, higurashi, muv luv alternative

stuck copper
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Akane Tomonaga really really did a good job voicing her, Yostar should invite her to voice a seemingly knowledgeable ship

vital edge
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I finished Higurashi, so clear that one

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Muv Luv, I think I read it already

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the rest I'll see

stuck copper
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Higurashi has good fan service

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the girls are very attractive, need remastering and voicing

toxic scroll
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as uh, good, as this conversation is

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lets keep it on topic

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you can take that to DMs

stuck copper
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so... on topic, Rika as collab ship? thinkpitz She might be the only one who can travel through time and space

toxic scroll
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still not quite

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so no

vital edge
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roger

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lol, Steins;Gate collab

stuck copper
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Fate collab too

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Saber meets Renown

vital edge
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Okabe travels into the wrong timeline and ends up in a shipgirl world where humanity has messed a little too much with genetics

dim crystal
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well there is uta collab

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and uta is a VN

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surprisingly

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I might give that a try

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later

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it has an english version

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also the UTA botes

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are GREAT

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like almost top tier

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unlike the nep botes

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who are tier 2 on a good day

stuck copper
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Uta has some similarity with IJN shipgirls

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animal tails, ear

dim crystal
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well I'll roll the fuck outta that

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btw try browsing those botes on wiki

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those skills are damn fine

verbal obsidian
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still no agano :c

stuck copper
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there are some who will suffer

verbal obsidian
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wait

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wheres the "ibilis"

stuck copper
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I don't know...

dim crystal
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same

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I've did like 15 runs

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no agano

stuck copper
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are you Vietnamese @dim crystal?

dim crystal
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my keyboard apps is weird

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when i hold the key for sometime it changes into special characters

toxic scroll
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that's every mobile keyboard that support accented letters

stuck copper
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hmm, that "ơ" is created when you press o + w

dim crystal
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really

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

ornate mantle
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We should commadere one of the chat rooms and make it a discord chat in game.

toxic scroll
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you can take any room up to 99

ornate mantle
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I'm so lazy now.

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Finished 3*ing W10.

dim crystal
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When Fumirul launches an airstrike, 30% (60%) for Fumirul to heal the ship with the lowest HP for 2% (10%) of her max Health.
Honey Moon 20 (10) seconds after battle begins, and every 30 (20) seconds after that: activate a special barrage. (damage based on skill level)

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uta collab skill

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that first skill is like

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SUPER GOOD

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just equip some fast plane on her and it would be like ultra sustain

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both frontline and back

ornate mantle
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Ehhhhhhh, sounds awesome in practice.

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But healing one ship every strike seems a little meh.

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?searchal unicorn

dim crystal
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backline heal

toxic scroll
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if your main fleet ships somehow have less hp than your escort

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somethings wrong

dim crystal
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have you played w10 and w11?

rustic epoch
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or you're running double healer

dim crystal
toxic scroll
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its not % hp

ornate mantle
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Hm? Wdym.

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When Fumirul launches an airstrike, 30% (60%) for Fumirul to heal the ship with the lowest HP for 2% (10%) of her max Health

toxic scroll
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not the healing

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it's not "ship 1 has 20% hp:

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"

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"ship 3 has 34%"

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*heal ship 1*

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ship 1 could still have more numeric hp than ship 3

ornate mantle
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I'd imagine it's numerically.

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Yeah.

dim crystal
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ye but still I have found my backline taking A LOT of damage

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than portkai

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on frontline

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in w11

ornate mantle
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Idk, BB tend to have a fuck ton of HP.

dim crystal
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nah

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its x2 a CA

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or x1.5

ornate mantle
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So i'd imagine they won't get healed when compared toa CA though.

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CA generaly like 4k-5k.

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Depending on who it is.

toxic scroll
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then if you're running a DD they'll always have the "lowest" hp

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and always get healed

ornate mantle
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Has this been tested?

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To see if it's based on Numerical values rather than HP %'s?

dim crystal
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I'd take this as a more offensive vestal

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so probably this work the same as vestal

ornate mantle
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Anything can be a more offensive vestal.

dim crystal
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no, the skill

toxic scroll
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and let's not forget

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it's a CHANCE to heal

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anyways

ornate mantle
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Vestal is a saint.

dim crystal
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comparing to vestal's skill

toxic scroll
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uni/shouhou are guaranteed heals

ornate mantle
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60% is a pretty high proc rate.

dim crystal
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and vestal's skill is once per match

toxic scroll
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it's not horrible

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but

dim crystal
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this skill is once each airstrike

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and with like a ZERO plane

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boi

ornate mantle
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One each airstrike... what's the fastest gold? 11s?

toxic scroll
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it's still pales in comparison to a guaranteed heal

ornate mantle
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Messermitch?

dim crystal
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comet, zero

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you name it

ornate mantle
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Which is faster.

dim crystal
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comet

ornate mantle
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How many seconds.

dim crystal
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like 0.5

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or sth

ornate mantle
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Every 5 seconds?

dim crystal
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0.5 = 5

ornate mantle
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.5 Seconds?

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For each Airstrike?

dim crystal
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comet is faster than zero by like 0.5 second

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...............

ornate mantle
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Clarified.

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But how many seconds per launch.

toxic scroll
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he wasn't asking the difference

ornate mantle
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Is what I'm asking.

dim crystal
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how would I know

ornate mantle
dim crystal
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there are 3 planes

toxic scroll
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he's asking the planes takeoff time

dim crystal
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you have to use math and shit

ornate mantle
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I mean, to be fair you could interpret it in two ways.

dim crystal
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and I dont have the botes here

ornate mantle
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Don't even need the botes.

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Lemme check on wiki.

dim crystal
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go check math and stats

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and get back to us

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they are all on the wiki

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check the slot as well

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to see what planes she could equip

cosmic pier
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you realise that you cant even equip comet on that fumi whatever bitch right

dim crystal
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there are a shitton of fast planes

stuck copper
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Rei. Get back to bed.

cosmic pier
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no u

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Im already on my bed anyway

dim crystal
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and a fighter + 2x torp bomber is an excellent setup

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so 2x baracuda

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the healing is just the cherry on top

toxic scroll
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you mean a max 60% chance at a heal

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and she has terrible efficiencies

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90%-105%

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what a joke

ornate mantle
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Sorry, went to go get some dinner.

stuck copper
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That skill is nice to have. For a dedicated healer, it might be too unreliable. For a dedicated dps, her stats might be too low.

ornate mantle
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Hmmm, Comet is like 13s.

toxic scroll
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her aviation stat is garbage

ornate mantle
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At Lv 120 it barely hits Enty.

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When Enty is at 100.

stuck copper
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I was trying to be diplomatic

ornate mantle
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So it's not complete shit when min maxed.

toxic scroll
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even vert, the joke of a ship from the nep collab

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has a higher aviation stat

ornate mantle
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Hmmmm, lemme compare her to other healers though.

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Shouhou... and I'm sure Unicorn is better.

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But let's do it anyways.

toxic scroll
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she has higher than uni

stuck copper
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She looks like a carrier version of arizona

toxic scroll
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by only like

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29

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or around there

ornate mantle
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IYeah, it's negligible.

toxic scroll
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and shouhou is only a rare

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so you can't compare her

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at 100 retro shouhou has like 5 more aviation

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than whatever her name is

ornate mantle
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Comparing the fact that they heal.

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Fumiurl?

toxic scroll
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don't know don't care lmao

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lets go with that

ornate mantle
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Lul, pointless conversation then.

toxic scroll
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indeed it was

ornate mantle
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Well that's not fun.

toxic scroll
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"but she has higher aviation that non retro shouhou"

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if you use shouhou and not retro her

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scrap yourself

ornate mantle
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We'd obviously be comparing the maxed out versions of each.

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Assuming both at their best.

toxic scroll
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120 retro shouhou is 2 aviation higher than whats her name

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but remember

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shouhou is a base rare

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not elite lmao

ornate mantle
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That's the not the point though.

toxic scroll
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it's not

ornate mantle
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Some rares are better to have than elites.

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Sure some stats are better, but usefulness can't be compared based on rarity.

toxic scroll
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i'm just saying i still count Shouhou as a rare even after retro

ornate mantle
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Stats are just one step to it all.

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A small one.

vital edge
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It all just comes down to whether they're worth the oil and unit slot

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Who are we comparing Shouhou to?

ornate mantle
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Uhhhh, healers affect ships to Fumiurl

toxic scroll
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yeah that ship

dim crystal
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shouhou is excellent

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but the thing is i want backline heal

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with out having to use AR ships

vital edge
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Shouhou is pretty darn good since she can do Unicorn's main job for less oil

dim crystal
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thats kinda hard

vital edge
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I'm just not a fan of her kai skill

dim crystal
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shouhou has better offensive capability as well

toxic scroll
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since we don't know what the skill bases it's "lowest" hp off

ornate mantle
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I think the best thing to do when comparing that in particular is to verify what type of healing Fumiurl is doing.

toxic scroll
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we have to go with numeric

dim crystal
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with bomber plane and torp plane

toxic scroll
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and not %hp

ornate mantle
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See, I'd like to see that in practice though for verification.

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Gonna be super hard to test though.

toxic scroll
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i couldn't find anything about it

vital edge
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Yeah, I'd love to see what lowest HP is based off

ornate mantle
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If she actually does base her heal targeting on a %, she can see some definite uses.

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If it's based on Numerics... then yeah, she'd be kinda out of luck.

dim crystal
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even with numerics

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my backline BB goes under 50%

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a lot of time

ornate mantle
#

The point with numerics being bad for backline healing is that BB's have higher HP than frontline ships even at 50% HP.

toxic scroll
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% still has it's issues

dim crystal
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and under 50% of a hood

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is definitely lower than a portkai full HP

ornate mantle
#

I mean, Portkai is an exception in a lot of ways.

dim crystal
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and portkai always have full HP

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anyhow

ornate mantle
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Hmmmm?

vital edge
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Higher HP ships get healed less and DD's would actually hinder recovery, right?

ornate mantle
#

Basically Yeah. That'd be the main issue with a numeric based healing.

dim crystal
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the heal is based on her own HP

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like akashi's

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and shes a CV

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so i imagine that would be 500 hp each procs

ornate mantle
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You'd be unable to use Fumiurl with DD's and other fairly low Base HP ships.

dim crystal
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which is NOT too shabby

vital edge
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If it's not based on %HP then it's hard to implement because a low HP ship that gets even the smallest chip gains top priority

ornate mantle
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Because they'd just sap up the healing.

dim crystal
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or you can just adapt and over come

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by using PRINZ eugen

vital edge
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Adapt&Conquer is a given

dim crystal
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damn

ornate mantle
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Like, there is a CHANCE... if you're doing a world like 10 or 11 where the backling gets targeted with high damage shots frequently... that Fumiurl can do what you're envisioning.

dim crystal
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prinz is a goddamn tank

vital edge
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And I'd rather use Admiral Hipster

toxic scroll
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but if say a BB has 40% and a DD has 50%, the DD needs the healing, but the BB would get the healing

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despite having more hp at 40% than the DD at 50%

dim crystal
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well later worlds are hell

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for backlines

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that is

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frontline rarely get damaged much

vital edge
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I kinda noticed by w10

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w9 and below are auto heaven compared to w10/11

ornate mantle
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I think a BB w/ 40% HP would still have more HP than a DD with 50% HP.

dim crystal
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my hood get damaged to 30% very prequently

ornate mantle
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So the DD should be getting the heal.

dim crystal
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so even if one heal procs

vital edge
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Now I need to save my airstrikes for when the barrages come in

dim crystal
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its enough

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i dont need every heal to proc on her

toxic scroll
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but if it's based off % left the BB would get it

dim crystal
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goddamn 3x bb enemies

ornate mantle
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Oh right, I was still thinking numerics.

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mb

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Oh really?

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Now how often to frontlines stay %'s under BB's.

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I'd say that's a fairly high chance.

toxic scroll
#

it is

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but if a given world is heavy on main fleet damage

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while still damaging your frontline

ornate mantle
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I'd imagine Fumiurl could be used to mitigate that somewhat.

vital edge
#

Btw, what does Fumi's barrage look like?

ornate mantle
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At least if it's based on air or BB shots.

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Wit.

toxic scroll
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i still personally believe that an AR or CV/L would be better in any situation

vital edge
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I mean I've only read the wiki stuff, but a CV with barrage...

dim crystal
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saratoga?

toxic scroll
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sara/lex can shoot a barrage

dim crystal
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thats kinda decent at clearing trash botes

ornate mantle
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It's rare to replace something that gives +1 Ammo in higher Worlds.

vital edge
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Sara's is just support fire compared to what I normally see from barrage BB's

ornate mantle
#

But having alternate healing options is really nice.

dim crystal
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yes

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but the offensive capability

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might made up for it

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she can equip 2x baracuda

toxic scroll
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i'd value the buffs from Uni/Shouhou to be better

ornate mantle
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I mean that's fine. I value diverse healing options.

toxic scroll
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uni for reload or Shouhou buffing airstrike damage for others after her

ornate mantle
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Meaning I value Uni, Shouhou, and Fumiurl.

dim crystal
#

well ye

ornate mantle
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Fucking Lazers Bitch.

dim crystal
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holy shit

vital edge
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ok

dim crystal
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laser

vital edge
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I want her now

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that looks cool

ornate mantle
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I remember why Fumiurl caught my interest initially.

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That is fucking ballin'

vital edge
#

Monitors had me with wrecking ball barrage now this

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Siren class laser strike, mmmmmmmmm

toxic scroll
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that's a pretty narrow line though

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i mean it looks like it hits planes too

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but

vital edge
#

it is but it looks cool and that's all that matters

ornate mantle
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Might be useful when considering the new Air Supremacy mechanic.

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If it can hit planes too.

toxic scroll
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for barrages though, efficiency > aesthetics

dim crystal
#

it can

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apparently

vital edge
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aesthetics matters a lot when flexing

dim crystal
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and we dont know if that is the basic laser or the level 10 ones

ornate mantle
#

I'd imagine Level 10.

toxic scroll
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and personally i think the danmaku on other ships barrage looks way better

dim crystal
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so the level 10 might be MULTIPLE LASER

vital edge
#

and the AoE seems to be larger than what it shows if it is hitting the planes

dim crystal
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you dont know that

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ye

ornate mantle
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@last kiln : Anything about what the skill level on that shot is?

vital edge
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it looks too weak to be lv10, going by what damage we normally see from max skills

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but who knows, maybe Fumi is underleveled

ornate mantle
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Figured.

vital edge
#

then crap that is weak

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18 crit dmg on a plane

dim crystal
stuck copper
#

There's a lone fighter attacking those planes.

ornate mantle
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Looks like it knocked planed to half life.

toxic scroll
#

i didn't see that fighter

ornate mantle
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Oh shit.

vital edge
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yes, but it's either 9 or crit 18

toxic scroll
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so i'm going to assume it doesn't hit planes

vital edge
#

I saw two instances and both were unusually weak dmg

toxic scroll
#

now that you pointed that hout

vital edge
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this beats the Nep ships by a mile

dim crystal
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is that a panda

stuck copper
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Imagine an 18-damage death ray lmao

vital edge
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I know what I'm saving cubes for

ornate mantle
#

Again, NepShips weren't designed to be good as much as for the fandom.

dim crystal
#

same

ornate mantle
dim crystal
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I'm gonna ultra whale

ornate mantle
#

What the fuck.

dim crystal
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for that eveent

toxic scroll
#

at least vert has better stats though

vital edge
#

the fanbase must be as shit as the crossover neps

ornate mantle
#

I'd expect a bird from an Enty Barrage.

vital edge
#

Hmm

ornate mantle
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@vital edge : every fanbase is shitty to some respect.

dim crystal
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enty retrofit: summon an eagle and george washington on a horse

vital edge
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What if Enty and Yorktown sent their eagle out with the rest of their planes for their airstrikes?

dim crystal
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playing US anthem on bg

ornate mantle
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Enty Retro: SUMMON. FREEDOM.

vital edge
#

like a single eagle out of a plane fleet

ornate mantle
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@vital edge : I would fucking pair them forever.

stuck copper
#

An eagle that drops bombs, please

dim crystal
#

wait

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eagle skin

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for planes

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WHEN

#

WHENNNNNNNNNNN

ornate mantle
#

I want chicks to be piloting the planes.

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wAIT. THERE ISN'T ONE ALREADY.

dim crystal
#

maximum freedom

stuck copper
#

Manjuu chick planes

ornate mantle
#

I didn't mention it cause i thought there is one.

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I mean.

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We need Eagles.

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EAGLES I TELL YOU.

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Wait.

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Can Fumiurls barrage have a Camo too?

dim crystal
#

overall fumi's complete package is solid

vital edge
#

An eagle that drops bombs, please
no bombs but the eagle attacks planes it collides with

ornate mantle
#

Ah, didn't know skill barrages couldn't have that.

vital edge
#

at best, just make it a mascot

dim crystal
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I'd say shes tier 1.5

ornate mantle
#

Who? Fumiurl?

dim crystal
#

ye

vital edge
#

She's a CV Arizona with a laser, so...

dim crystal
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the offensive capability is decent with 2xcuda + barrage

ornate mantle
#

Hmmmm, dunno. She'd certainly be interesting.

vital edge
#

She is interesting

dim crystal
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the healing is at great quantity, like 500 per pop

ornate mantle
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@vital edge : Can do Hardmode req's with a CV Arizona.

vital edge
#

in fact, she'd be welcome in my team

ornate mantle
#

I'd welcome her with opn arms.

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I'll be rolling in Utawa.

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If it comes to EN that is.

dim crystal
#

probably

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they did not pay for the collab

#

then not using them