#avrora-general
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I'm mostly just waiting for PR
so i can start grinding again
how much xp was 100-105 again
my akagi has 350k
370k
820 chips right now, can get 350 from ch 11 and 100 from ch 7 hm, should be enough to lvl cap all the waifu boats 
i saw someonne in pvp with a 110 washy, enty and south dakota, and 105 belfast
i was just like
yeaaa no ima just refresh that one

big oof
going for the same thing
never realized there was a fleet admiral tier, only ever gotten 5 star adm
Hopefully I don't forget to pvp like cycle 
Also these comm chips 
man i'm eating through oil recently

mhm
ye
gonna have to make sure it doesnt accidently pick up ships I wanna use I guess
just pop em in a fleet somewhere in formations
ez done
auto'd deutsch and scharn n stuff for me so didnt have to bother changing 
them kms ships gotta wait a while
think of all the mutsuki classes you can get from daily lights
no pls
lmao who
complet rng
Completed like 6 commission now
hi friendos
i got 4 today

Damn you
hi lolicon

no u
sorry washington i busy, bye bye
who's Belchan
Belette just sounds
like a word i'm not allowed to say here
without getting in trouble
idk either
It's not as bad as saying ||Ugean|| 
HAH!!!!!
At this rate






i dont even remember who was part of fw

i like radar scan, on those rare occasions it procs
and her hair color
rest can go to hell

i still use norcal here n there
cuz lul using ships just on usability
Unicorn ganbaru
@lone sinew no u

i like stuff when they're bit more difficult anyways
stomping everything is the most boring thing ever

i guess
i cant ever get along with that kinda playstyle but i aint planning on hard arguing bout it either
I'm not you 
lol
wash akashi ningsen doing fiiine on full donger 11-3, gonna dump akashi after getting it down to safe and see how that goes
and then I'll try the others
funny how people were kinda making a big deal outta w11 and its pretty easy after all
except if you be me and be impatient on bosses before fixing that up
time to see how long will syndai take
and after that colombers
speaking of syndai, @ripe mantle you got her yet?

ya got agano/send or just bolting out for colom?
what a luccsacc 

i farmed agano cuz edgebote 
her oppai look like they gave up to gravity already or sth
Im at same point with ships and popping bulins on em as I am with skills
I got plenty of targets but cant decide who to pop on first lul



mhhh we get like 5-6 ish a week anyway so I barely ever bother actually saving for future ships
3 from weekly and rest optional from pvp/medals

alec
speaking of sheffy gotta finish her sec quest up
11 affection and some half a level to go

🚮

I wanna level isuzu but she's kinda a honolulu case
I wanna get a skin first before I focus on levelling


isuzu's halloween skin is pretty 
but I didnt have her nor the gems to buy it at the time 
prob wont have gems this time around either
mhm

just awaken a common 
I still got a few more rares to mind break
did zuma zuchi suki earlier, curlewd curacoa leipzig ranger jamai and phoenix left to go
das like 480 ish chips 
110 can wait for later
im still having trouble deciding when to cap break 105s to 110 lel
105 itself is enough effort on its own

my jealousy that I cant play rn
blue book dump 

its ok Im not playing either
gotta go take a shower
then get ready to go on a trip
gotta survive on just battery for a few hours
but i thought u were a neet
and AL eats battery so I wont be able to play much 
Im a neet but new years coming up and holidays n shit here
visiting people obligations

Milestone reached.

nani new years
As of today, I have the same amount of cubes as I do Quick Finisher.
I got a few more cubes than 5
I heard that in CN/JP, AP shell now can cause citadel damage when striking heavy armor
do all ships with less hp then sheff have 30% chance each time they are hit to take 50% damage reduction

yep i was right

it's stolen from real life. please ban.
also
its kinda an overhaul to AA
an rather bland mechanic
as of THIS moment
looks like w12 and 13
is going to be HELL
and looks like we are getting w12 BEFORE subs

ULTRA yikes
that full post is just basically hey we copy pasted KC air supremacy mechanic lel
IM FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
It certainly is time to conquer the single sock blonde 
Think I'm gonna need a break before I go after Agano and Sendai
at least Sendai and Agano are not boss-exclusive
still no columbia and agano

I'm going for the common first
the worst part of chapter 11 is behind
you just have to believe
if you dont get them you are not believing hard enough
sir

dont remind me Rei
lol
I wanna believe this is my Isuzu
do it

I wanna believe this is the one ship this chapter that will give me butt cancer from farming
we don't even know what the actual rates are. could be 0.ass% for all we know.
I can tell you one thing
elite drop rate on 11-4
for me at least
has been around 1%
for ALL the elites
not just 1, any elite
and even then, we don't know whether or not all the elites have an equal chance of dropping. because i'm pretty damn sure the desirable ones are less frequent
in fact the highest number in terms of drops
has been no drop

3-4 runs on average in a sortie
ended without even as much as a common
desire sensor ACTIVATE
here's the problem tho
if I wanted exp, I'd have gone 7-2 
if I wanted coins, 7-2
if I wanted medals, 7-2
the only thing about 11-4 is Columbia
i mean, it's pretty damn obvious when you've farmed for 5 of them, and every single one of them ended up being the last ship you get from their respective maps
I just dont get this logic, and it's not just AL that's guilty of it
why are late-game chapters this unrewarding in comparison to earlier ones
in the olden days you'd expect the higher the difficulty the bigger the payout
sorry not in muh rng game
you get 5 extra coins
it's not even about "did it take me 100 or 1000 runs for columbia" I can accept the chapter-specific rare to be hard to get, even tho it is quite literally nothing but a grind
I just dont get why the drop rate for rares and elites is this low 
the least you'd expect is to get showered in medals
yeah, even the trash seems to be rare this time. or maybe it just feels like it, because it takes so much longer to clear.
could be that tbh, it does take a while to get through these battles in comparison
still, when you see 3 out of 7 battles end up without even a courtesy common
it just makes you ponder y'know
like, when you auto for an hour, you don't notice it that much, but when you have to pay attention, it feels like an eternity
people get everything within 10 runs -> they complain why there are no new content
people can't get anything within 1k runs -> they complain why they are not being rewarded with anything
I somewhat like it when there aint even a common
makes me have to clear dock slots less frequently
that just basically sum up the entire online game genre
that's what you get when your game relies on rng
i mean what game does not rely on RNG for loot?
here's the thing tho
if you just going to tie reward to quest or clear times
then number 1 going to repeat itself
you can have RNG for the drop luck but you can still mitigate the effects of randomness
by having it incrementally increase over every "failed" sortie
as in, every sortie you end up not drawing anything of rare status
hmmmmmmm only 11k to clear vdir rerun shop
i can see it happening
there is rng and there is rng. if your system favors large amounts of variance, you get stuff like this
and the milestones is not even worth doing
but how much is enough increase per sotie tho?
Diablo 3 did it IIRC, you had a specific counter that checked your legendary drop rate
its all single BPs
and if you hit a specific threshold of nothing, the game autodrops you a legendary
so that you dont end up leaving in frustration over feeling like you're just wasting your time
pity timers are nice
BDO does that at the top of my head anyway
and not like it matter much of the time lel
that's kinda the problem tho, if your game's frustrating, you run a risk of people just saying "Ok, fuck this, I'm done" and just ragequitting 
and every time that happens, you run a risk of them never coming back
they've been doing it since the 80s tho. if you kept losing, the game got easier without telling you
you gotta find a fine line between not giving away your rares free of charge and making it reasonably rare
the problem tho is the amount of ppl who actually did that are the minority
so you felt like you got better and kept spending more money
and we all know no one care about the minority
every game in existence will hit that point 1 way or another
like in some other gacha
should not make EVERY single thing
in the game
easy
dont you think
rng is not difficulty
that moment when maya drop after 4 weeks
You can make things hard without resorting to keeping stuff hostage behind random number is my point 
i agree that AL is the most generous gacha in the current market
with maybe GBF coming at close 2
and if you want to rely on RNG, you can at least mitigate the effects by introducing some kind of ceiling
i think the problem is that you are talking about billion dolar companies whose games series got refine over 5+ years
is it the most generous, yes. Is it perfect? I'd argue, I think there's plenty to improve on
we already got almost EVERYTHING handed to us
with the generous gacha
why taking away the last thing
for the game to feel........rewarding?
no
You're supposed to feel like you're not wasting your time
By the time you hti 100 runs you won't give a shit cause you'll just want it to be over

i dont think we can put the gacha and the grind on the same level. they're different beasts.
im fine with games long as im having fun, even if its "not getting rewarded" or losing n all that
but im weird anyway

it takes no effort to roll
^
and cube gain is easy and consistent over the weeks
you stockpile for weeks, only to throw it away in minutes
whereas an active grind takes more effort. i think that's the issue
right, because AL only accepts monopoly money 
the gacha in this game
the logic is: if you put effort into something, you get something out of it.
is literally handed to us
so ofc the moment you get nothing is kinda poop
yeah, i get that. and it makes me forgive a lot.
tell that to people who go 400+ cubes without getting the specific ship they wanted 
tell em "You should be grateful cause it's 7% chance"
because imagine the gacha and the grind being crap. sheesh.
Just cause FGO's gacha is complete ass and dont get me wrong, it is satan's dried foreskin and the reason why I dropped the game
claiming AL's gacha is perfect is just delusional

i mean can you tell us 1 game that got that perfect gacha function?
was talking to rubi
on mobile? no
and that' sunfair how 
are mobile games inherently inferior to other games in some way?
kinda
Cause the way I see it, they can be just as good
ok then let change the question then
name 1 F2P game (mobie or not) with a perfect gacha
since i doubt any F2P game going to have it
that's easy, League
lel
i don't think you can consider LOL as a gacha
You kinda do, but here's the reason why
League was not built around the gacha
gacha was added retroactively to exist alongside the existing system
not to mention the amount of currency you get now are garbage if you don't play everyday
So you can still get everything by just paying and skipping the RNG entirely
but if you want to do the Gacha, you can. On top of it, you get stuff you have't unlockedyet
so you won't run into duplicates
I could understand your point about the anti frustration system
most of my luck has always been shit character that i don't want
and do you know what happen when i get a character i want?
no fucking money to buy it
And that disproves my point how exactly 
the grind in order to get that 1 character
I want to farm a hundred thousand points
and separate myself
from the plebs
that only did the 60 fights
today's been having some popcorn worthy talks here
the grind in lol is worse if you don't play everyday
for the character

yeah, that's kinda how F2P games work. You either pay to get the stuff in advance, or you grind for you
that's a deal I can accept
as long as 1. the game feels rewarding to play
and 2. I have a safetynet to fall back on to know I WILL eventually get the stuff I want
I only and only give money to f2p if I want to
never when a game makes me feel like I HAVE to
i can see your point in number 2
like I've said to a dude about "sAvInG OiL"
number 1 is actually more base on the person in question
since what is rewarding for you might not be rewarding for other ppl
oh yea, number 1 is definitely a matter of personal expectations
no arguments there
but yes i agree on your 2 point
i disagree on your second point
you are guaranteed to get it
its not going anywhere
you just have to..... play the game
sure, but here's the thing
if you dont have the safetynet, you can end up stuck in on place for ages
while the game just doesnt sit there waiting for you
i think his 2 point is just that he can reduce the grind in some capacity
not all of the grind
but some what of it to make it rewarding
you'll keep getting new content, limtied events, mini events, special rate up constructions, what have you
that's what i get
so you can easily end up in a spot where you're sitting there on let's say 3-4 to farm foxes
cause you keep getting shit on by RNGesus
while meanwhile people are already running around chapter 11
and you all started playing the same time
it's not, but it doesnt help when it feels your car's made of cardboard 
sure, but one person had to work way harder for the same thing
but you can't really argue that having such a system is place is not a good thing now can't you?
I never argued where the cap should be, I was talking the idea in general 
I'm not gonna pretend to be unbiased with what I'd want the cap to be
to a point
and obsessing
where that point lies rests on an individual
you are guaranteed to get it
its not going anywhere
you just need to play
which is the whole point of a game
thats all
I mean I could just bring up a cheap example of that being wrong
this feels like a discussion between the old and new generation of gamer if anything
in name of Neptunia event 
whole point of a game depends on the person
nah
dont see any reruns anytime soon for that one
but again, that's be a cheap example
since it's a collab
i've been playing games for 30 years now, and even i am annoyed by certain things nowadays.
hmmm
point being there's never a guarantee
but you still need to rely on RNG to get them 
and what is farming if not a more engagement-requiring gacha
you still gotta roll from a pool of drops
you just pay oil and time instead of cubes
also, i've come to expect a certain level of annoyance. complaining about it is just part of the experience to me.
people gotta vent
dont get me wrong, I'm fine with the drops and gacha and all that, I accept those mechanics. I'm not thrilled about gacha in general, but I can close my eyes on some of them as long as the odds are fair
however and here's the big however
the gacha has one big advantage of actually disclosing the rates
you dont have any disclosure for map drops
you dont know if something's 1% or 2% or 0.2%

heck the only rares we even know of in terms of drop % are foxes
so ultimately your perception of "fair" is gonna rely on how many sorties you made
that is one point i absolutely agree with. i'd like to know the rates so i can prepare myself mentally
when i farm in warframe, i always know what i'm in for
no i want the sense of pride and accomplishment
after a long grind
even if some pleb get the ship
in 2 tries
I'd still do 100
to get it
just scrap your first 4 copies and feel satisfied on the 5th drop 
i just assume every ship i want is 1%. it's probably fairly close to the real deal lol
That's what I would want to assume
close enough
akaga is 0.75
knowing droprates for quite a few people i know has only brought despair 
stuff like "well i should have x bote in 200 cubes"
2 days later
"REEEEE I HAD TO KILL 470 CUBES"
confirmed by the dev

but then you have moments like 7-3 or 11-4 where the 1% drop is what you can expect just the rarity of ship you aim for to be 
that's only for akaga tho. we don't know the rest
I swear I was getting more elite drops on 7-3
than I was getting rares
so many renowns and vestals
just go with 1%
droprates are just an extra number not worth even reading for me 
I like knowing the droprates, cause I like to know what I sign up for 
rem and ram drop rate lower then fucking maya
i know what im signing up for anyway
that alone tells you how fuck up this "drop rate" are
hmmm
they even give you akatsuki
in rerun
in case you missed her on drop
the first time

elusive ninja is elusive lel
i remember playing a game many years ago. the devs were dumb enough to put all the RMT stuff on people's phones. some of the gahca rates were way below 1%. that's when i stopped trusting gacha games.
dunno I got like quite a few akatsuki
lul
"rei is just weird and doesnt count in any sort of equations"


Do you deny you being weird? 
never
you are not that unique sir
i like being weird 
like the gold 410
lol this
but lady at school told me we're all speshiul 
i want my second 10+ 410mm
shes lying
Every kid is special, until they become an adult
and suddenly they become not so special

I lie, I cheat, I bitch a lot. I’m the ideal adult.
the lady at school didnt tell me anything
kids are kids. let them have fun.
santa exists
no, kids need to learn to be loosers
tooth fairy exists
Until he doesn’t.
they can be losers for the rest of their lives
Some kids need to get spanked.
im mentally still stuck at being a 5 year old
expose the kids to the cold hard truth


"You didn't lose, you were the last winner"
I’m a good adult.

"you won at losing"
then she got a retrofit
Sandy was NUMBAH WAN.
her mental age is 1
Leave that shit to the engineers. When you’re an idol like sandy who cares.

yeah, you even suck at being bad, rei
that's how i like me

but if she sucks at being bad, that means she's automatically good

No, you’re called middle class.
perfect plan
Not rich enough to be wealthy, not poor enough to be rich.
try it
cala abooz me some more
you might get a retrofit eventually
dont whales have infintie money
That’s just a myth.
all these stories of people spending thousands of dollars a month and they keep doing it every month
you'd think they'd go bankrupt at some point
We have infinite job work, but limited time.
I mean, I know that one guy who sold his house for FGO.
hong kong dollars?
2000$ on Alcoholic Liquids every week? Someone's got a problem 
So I usually use that as my litmus to test to see if you’re a whale or need mental help.
non existent dollars
rei dollars
rei country when
Rei dollars, worth about 0.32 of a big stone coin from the West Pongo Tongo
what will you give
A trading license.
spaghetti
it's a trading license, trade for it 

gotta barter your way
I’ll give you.
trying to seduce someone to buy me some gems so i can grab astoria skin
it aint been going so well
A high five.

And my respect.
I can give you a red 7 from Uno for a high five, but not a trade license 
but theres nothing attractive of u rei
- Anti-air ships: new enemy ships with anti-aircraft fire that will damage your planes.
Your planes have the ability to dodge enemy AA ship fire. Dodge chance depends on the plane, the Air Power stat of the carrier that launched the plane, and the Anti-Air stat of the enemy AA ship.
Each plane has a "Max Dodge" stat (please check equipment info). When attacked by an AA ship, the Max Dodge of the plane represents the maximum chance of dodging that one attack (not necessarily current dodge chance).
- Commander ships: when a commander ship is present, it increases the damage dealt by all enemy ships.
- Repair ships: repair ships will continually heal the enemy.
Repair ships are classified by S-class and A-class, which heals a single ship and the entire enemy fleet, respectively.```
hmmm
Woh new stuff?
hey man we were having a serious convo
Lemme see.
i mean i offered money
@verbal obsidian

enemy repair ships

is this
except i cant offer in a variable amount of ways
THE SAME TYPE OF STAND

oh god
Each plane has a "Max Dodge" stat (please check equipment info).
They're gonna make the crap planes have high max dodge, just watch

well
and make all the top tier ones dodge like shit
thats a given
We’re gonna start stacking plane HP to compensate.

LUL
people selling gold guns.

never taken my comet off of ark

brb upgrading
too late now
gold guns are made out of gold. of course they give the most coin.
no take backsies

can you imagine
I can’t.
Give BB guns wings?
and make all the brit normal shells max accuracy
I got 10 cubes from commissions this morning. Put in 4 cube commissions and they all were perfect.
That made me smile.
BBV META TIME

Where do Agano and Columbia drop again?
hell

11-2 Agano
Columbia is in 11-4 and Agano In 11-2
on my couch
just send akagi against commander ships


you just want to flex
Try to ask in help, people tend to meme here.
All of the regulars here meme all the time wdym
more like#unhelpful

i never meme
what are memes
im always serious
we all serious bois in here
fuk u mean

let’s get Sirius!
I remember when I cam here because Help was unhelpful and here was actually helpful.
what are memes sir
ironic isnt it
i am always helpful
I luv u Cald.
now kiss
I luv u too Rubi.
I'm only helpful when i feel like it
So never.
rei never feels anything

man this chapter tho, I forgot the last time I ran out of daily commissions before the first pvp reset 
Holy shit season reset didn’t it.
yes
normally I'd just stack long commissions on daily reset, switch to all the overnights I could and do them as it goes
90k coins?
Yeah
Who was the shop girl?
Zuikek
can't wait for devs to forget about cranes for the next 6 months after this

nobody's making fun of cranes cause nobody remembers they exist

at least devs dont

no u
flute crane and leg crane
thigh crane
@stuck copper essex 1 year anniversary and ink is well ask inter kun

SKK oath skin when
good memes

I’m gonna get my Vestal to 120.
it's not that I dont want to believe that
but just a reminder, yukikaze came out with a skin from the get go, then was the first ship from that event to get an oath skin
yukikaze bikini too
Believe harder friend.

the bias is real
in fact heck, she's the only ship from the cranes event even to HAVE a skin
you still haven't oathed her?
er sorry
you're kinda late for the party then
See, one thing I love about AL is that amazing skins aren’t limited to girls with certain raritiesz

oh, bukki skin
Ring pack rings?
Naisu. I’m waiting for the next ring pack.
i have one ring left, but i haven't found my special someone
dam i was late for the trash emote
I have 3 potential ships
thanks fellow cultist
Helena, Atago, Duke
internet goofing
Ohhhhh, those are top tier oaths.
I have a few on my list... SKK, ZKK, Atago, Takao, Prinz
@stuck copper i thought that was atago 









