avrora-general

[stuck copper]

Great PTSD

[wintry sonnet]

incidentally

[stuck copper]

Well my mind is hashed

[wintry sonnet]

anyone else seems to have the feelign like oil's getting resupplied in canteen much faster than it used to

[stuck copper]

level 10 canteen is broken

[wintry sonnet]

All this time I've had this odd feeling like there's less difference between my oil and coins in merchant/canteen

pretty sure 150 oil/300 coin's not what the ratio supposed ot be

[stuck copper]

cos you collected them regularly?

[wintry sonnet]

I'm not capped on anything and I pick both at the same time

[stuck copper]

no idea. i keep buying food because i try to play a little as possible atm

[tough burrow]

pretty sure 150 oil/300 coin's wait, you sure it's 150 and 300?

[stuck copper]

Fallen Wings was supposed to be the hardest, right?

[wintry sonnet]

it shouldn't be

but that's what I picked up

[tough burrow]

Wiki says it's 90 and 300

[wintry sonnet]

yeah

I've felt this for the past like 3 hours or so

like the ratio seems off

could be me not paying attention but the fact this persists for me seemed odd

so I wanted to double check

[tough burrow]

Well, it says it's 90/h

But I can't check because I'm full

[wintry sonnet]

I'll wait till it restocks

normally it's like 30/100 per 20 minutes

[tough burrow]

report it if it's actually more pls

[wintry sonnet]

will do

[stuck copper]

which server are you in Restart?

[tough burrow]

Avrora

I mean

#avrora-general

[wintry sonnet]

looks at the club name

[tough burrow]

take a guess

[stuck copper]

I know, but mods can be everywhere at once

[tough burrow]

True

[stuck copper]

so I would just like to double-check

iChaseGaming is also on Avrora, he made a video about Azur Lane, saying that it is way better than KanColle

[lusty drift]

It is

KanColle is just flawed

[wintry sonnet]

wasn't iChase the guy who was shilling for Wargaming during the SirFoch DMCA debacle?

[tough burrow]

KC and AL aren't that similar tbh

[stuck copper]

nope

[lusty drift]

KanColle has too many unfun aspects, FGO is too pay2play and Girl's Frontline has awful gameplay.

[wintry sonnet]

also what Restart said

[stuck copper]

IChaseGaming is someone different, he is more into historical features I think

[tough burrow]

They fight for the same market, yea

But games are different enough so you can't compare them

[wintry sonnet]

one's a bullet hell shooter, the other's a pseudo-management/strategy

the only thing they got in common is the theme honestly

[stuck copper]

they are all involving around shipgirls notion

[tough burrow]

They don't even use the same gacha mechanics

GFL is way closer to KC than AL

[stuck copper]

Warship Girls, too

[wintry sonnet]

I'd argue KC doesnt have a gacha at all, sort of

it's a weird construct, hard to put into words

[stuck copper]

KC could be better with Gacha

[lusty drift]

laughs in perma death

[wintry sonnet]

nah, KC could never pull of gacha with perma death

[stuck copper]

I mean, I've played the game around 3 years now and no Yamato

[wintry sonnet]

last thing you want is tie in money to something you can lose permanently

[lusty drift]

"Oh hey I just spent 3 weeks farming for this ship.....annnd she's dead!"

[tough burrow]

I mean, you have to try pretty hard for ships to die

At least it was like that when I played

[wintry sonnet]

you literally have to be a scumbag and advance with a heavily damaged ship for them to sink so yea

[lusty drift]

Nah, just run them into higher level areas and try to make them live for higher EXP.

[stuck copper]

your ships can fall low to RNG's whim, but it is your decision ultimately that your ships will die

[wintry sonnet]

perma death's more of a "You failed but you can take the risk if you want"

rather than an actual problem

[stuck copper]

well, permanent death is not a problem if you care about your girls

[tough burrow]

Also you don't have to repair ships in AL, thank god

[wintry sonnet]

that said, commission system in KC's better

[stuck copper]

there are two things I don't like about KC:

1. the random route

2. the inability to decide what to do in a match

[tough burrow]

Isn't it the same thing?

Essentially?

[wintry sonnet]

in KC expeds are static, you get to choose which ones to send and if you sparkle your ships morale, you can get guaranteed rewards as well as a % increase to rsc

[stuck copper]

I heard some of my friends said that routing in a map is based on fleet composition, or at least during event

[wintry sonnet]

in AL the commisions are randomised in what you get and randomised in wheter or not you get anything you want

[stuck copper]

but what happened during a fight is merely RNG-based

[wintry sonnet]

in that regard KC is more friendly since you can send out 8 hour or 1h expeditions whenever you want

[stuck copper]

cos I give a sh-- about KC event

[ornate mantle]

As someone who played both, I can say without a shadow of a doubt that AL is better.

[wintry sonnet]

dont have to rely on RNGesus to give you the right timers depending on if you have time to play or not

[ornate mantle]

As far as gameplay and overall likability goes.

[wintry sonnet]

yeah, gameplay wise AL's a definite winner

the fact you can actually take over manually is a big seller for me

mitigates the amount of RNG requried

[verbal obsidian]

what did i miss fellow memers

[ornate mantle]

I also hate that KC ships can actually die when sunk.

[tough burrow]

Yea, I agree. Commission in AL def have place for improvement. But I doubt they're willing to just straight up copy KC even if it's better

[stuck copper]

well, if I am to compare KC and AL, I would say: AL gives me the ability to decide my own fates, that I can go wherever I want, do whatever I wish, rather than letting RNG decide everything. just like a main protagonist, you can get anything through sheer determination

[wintry sonnet]

also unlike KC, as long as you send out strong enough fleets, you're basically bound to hit a point where auto-battle cannot possibly lose

[ornate mantle]

Yeah, that’s true

[wintry sonnet]

in KC you can even fail the easiest map just cause you got a bad dice roll

I had D-ranks on 1-1 because my sprakle ship failed 2 shots in a row

[stuck copper]

sending 6 battleships into a map

RNG rekted 2 of your ships into taiha

[ornate mantle]

It’s... not fun watching the Atago you got sink.

And then get deleted from your account.

[wintry sonnet]

one thing that's a hgue issue for me right now with AL's commissions

is that overnights are around a very inconvenient time for me

[lusty drift]

^

[wintry sonnet]

cause if i want to send them, that means I can't do any commissions during the time I'm actually up and around

[ornate mantle]

Imagine if you were doing PVP and your Amagi got oofed off then she got deleted from your account.

[stuck copper]

I always send my girl on 1200 oil commission in 9 AM, and other 8-hours commission in 11 AM

[lusty drift]

The 1-2 hour oil+gold commissions are around 1am for me

[wintry sonnet]

if I play the game, I get urgents which I cant send cause I have 8 h commissions going on

[stuck copper]

i stopped bothering with overnights. if you're european, they just clog up your commission slots, wasting precious time, to the point where they are simply not worth it.

[ornate mantle]

I live in the US, so the commissions work perfectly for me.

[wintry sonnet]

not to mention, let's say the maint goes on too long

and you dont wake up in time to send overnights

that's overnights going bye bye

[stuck copper]

I am on Asia UTC +7

daily reset happens at 3 PM

[wintry sonnet]

honestly, I'd just do what people suggested and make overnights available throughout the whole day

doesnt hurt anyone, benefits everyone regardless of time zone

[stuck copper]

yes, I agree

so that I could sort my commission to match the timeframe before I logged off

[wintry sonnet]

the system in its current state works for servers like JP/KR etc who have basically 1 time zone going for them

not so good for a server that's supposedly global

and covers 24 time zones

[stuck copper]

so, we will have AL NA, AL EU and AL ASIA?

[ornate mantle]

I’d assume there are bound to be some discrepancies.

That’d basically be what’d need to happen, but time zones aren’t fixed just by doing that.

At least not completely.

[wintry sonnet]

sure, but it's a start in the right direction

and it's a zero-issue solution

[tough burrow]

They can't really "fix" time zones tho

afaik

[ornate mantle]

Idk about it being a zero issue solution.

But it’s the ideal scenario.

[wintry sonnet]

no, but if the overnights are available throughout the whole day and then reset on daily reset, it removes time zone as an issue in that regard

[ornate mantle]

Then we’d need to change the name to Perma Quests.

[stuck copper]

they can add an "overnight" tab, put them there, then give you 4 tokens or something to run them. problem solved.

blame the Earth for being too big and not flat

[ornate mantle]

Because doing night quests at 11 in the mornings sounds stupid.

I don’t like that token idea.

That’s a bad idea.

[wintry sonnet]

the way the system is now, I send out overnights when I wake up at like 9am

then I can't do shit for 7-8 hours after that

[stuck copper]

you are bound to server reset anyway.

[wintry sonnet]

and then when I'm getting ready to sleep I basically have to spam away my 1-2h commissions

[stuck copper]

what? you burn the entire morning up to 9 AM?

[wintry sonnet]

so my entire day I basically can't play the game

cause then I end up with urgents I cannot send

cause they have ludicurously short timers most of them that are useful

[stuck copper]

it's not a perfect solution, but it gives you some leeway

[wintry sonnet]

and if I somehow do, then that means I can't send the daily commissions

[stuck copper]

speaking of timezone, I wish to end this daily saving time as soon as possible

but that won't happen until March

[wintry sonnet]

only reason I can still get away with overnights sometime

is that I sometime work on US-timezone

[stuck copper]

it would be a huge work for AL staff to make commission based on timezone

just making the modification for DST was enough to cause server issues previously

[wintry sonnet]

again, not a problem if the overnights are available throughout the whole day

it eliminates the need for time zone entirely

you send them whenever you want, 1 time per day, then they refresh on daily reset

[stuck copper]

^ people wil abuse it

[wintry sonnet]

everyone benefits

you cant abuse it

there's literally no way to abuse it

all it does is extend the timer

[tough burrow]

I assume you mean you can only do them once?

[wintry sonnet]

yes, just like they are now

but instead of 7 hours, it's 24 hours

[tough burrow]

Yea, it's a nice idea

It was suggested before

[stuck copper]

24 hours, for that, the amount of resources must be... huge

or else no one will do it

[tough burrow]

???

It's still 8h

they just available for 24

[stuck copper]

is he meaning the commission will run for 24 hours?

no

[wintry sonnet]

no, I mean they will be available for 24 hours

[stuck copper]

ah I see

[wintry sonnet]

basically as they are now, same timers, same rewards

but instead of 7 hours, they're around for 24h

meaning no time zone issue

[tough burrow]

good god, 24h commission

[wintry sonnet]

meaning everyone gets to use them whenever its convenient for them

you think 24h is bad rest

KC has commissions that are over 72 hours

[stuck copper]

24-hour gem commission. "chance to receive" lol

[wintry sonnet]

granted, you only send them out like once for the quests

[stuck copper]

@wintry sonnet: you only run those commission to get Z1

[wintry sonnet]

on a side note, I'd be perfectly ok having 8h commissions always there actually

cause it means if you're feeling under the weather or are too preoccupied, you can still run your commissions without babysitting the game all the time

but for now, just having the overnights available for when I actually go to sleep would be a good start

[stuck copper]

I do it in 11 AM

this whole timezone could be a mess

RIANDA XD

[wintry sonnet]

if it wasn't for the outfit I'd have a hard time guessing it's Leander

[stuck copper]

I read the story regarding Leander's namesake

it is a story about a young boy named Leander who cross the ocean to meet up with a girl. Then almost got drowned by Poseidon

in-game, underrated waifu

What?

[wintry sonnet]

oh yea, word of advice

the S girl is now Voldemort

check pins in general

at least until devs know what's going on

[stuck copper]

but, which opinions? Surely Intern-kun didn't stalk this channel

[wintry sonnet]

[toxic scroll]

i guarantee plenty of people DM'd him about it

[stuck copper]

poor Intern-kun

for having to be sandwiched between shytkikans and devs

[wintry sonnet]

come to think of it, the last time I saw intern talk in here was like 2-3 weeks after club introductions

which is understandable, you get better feedback in general than in individual clubrooms

well, "better"

assuming you can dig your way through all the degen

[stuck copper]

you can't get anything from general, it is an untidy room

it should be at feedback section instead

[tough burrow]

It really shouldn't

Not like you get anything from me but "just wait and see" there

And it'll turn into rants

And rants in feedback channels are warnable

[wintry sonnet]

huh, that seems... a bit counterintuitive

but then again discord's propably not the best place to collect feedback opinions

would make more sense to have surveys adressing particular topic

[tough burrow]

Well, what opinion you talking about?

"Where is Sirius" isn't an opinion nor is it feedback

[wintry sonnet]

HE SAID THE S WORD

BAN

also i was just saying in general, the idea of feedback should kind of be that it's put up for discussion to see if it merits being considered

but if it was to be done in the feedback channel, it'd just become a mess

[tough burrow]

If it's just feedback - yea, of course it belongs there

[wintry sonnet]

cause then other feedbacks would get dug under

[tough burrow]

I compile what different people think and send to either trello, if it's a suggestion or to GT/Intern if it's feedback/opinion

Discussion is welcomed as long as it's not just casual chatter

[stuck copper]

general is blowing up

[wintry sonnet]

still I think it'd be good to pick up some of the more "heated" points of contention and run them as some survey. You know, like a google survey with with specific things where you then get to write down your opinion on the topic

[stuck copper]

everyone is rioting there

[wintry sonnet]

at the very least it'd be a good indicator on how passionately people feel about certain propositions

[stuck copper]

I rarely visit general

[toxic scroll]

what is this, the OSRS polling system?

[stuck copper]

it is a huge mess where my statement could be ignored in any given moment

[wintry sonnet]

also turns out that when you try to hide certain topics, streissand effect kicks in, who knew

[tough burrow]

still I think it'd be good to pick up some of the more "heated" points of contention and run them as some survey It won't solve anything and may even make things worse. We discussed this at some point

[toxic scroll]

i think i remember that

vaguely though

[wintry sonnet]

I mean, how else would you know if certain ideas resonate with the playerbase

[tough burrow]

Well, for one they can vote in trello

[toxic scroll]

using the "heated" ideas isn't the best thing to use

[stuck copper]

this game is unlike For Honor where devs only collect opinion from top players, but...

[tough burrow]

That's an option

[wintry sonnet]

wait wut

you can vote in the trello?

[tough burrow]

Also that may sound a bit controversial, but it's not like what people want = what devs want/gonna do

Feedback is feedback, but not all feedback is prodictive

It's not "twitch plays game development" after all

yea, you can

[wintry sonnet]

I mean sure, I'm not saying that for obvious reasons

cause then people would just keep voting up "Give us 141858173 free gems every hour"

but certain hand-picked topics should be fine

[wintry sonnet]

I assume you have to make an account?

cause I dont see the vote field

[stuck copper]

It is not the matter at which everyone can be left satisfied, some want really fast pace, while others want to slow down even more. After listening to both sides, we decided that the current speed is the best compromise between the two and any further feedback isn't needed as all the arguments were said and continuing will just result in conflict between both sides. ```

I read this from Restart

[tough burrow]

Yea, but you can use google to log in

[stuck copper]

I mean, how could devs rate the proportion between two factions? they cannot scan the discord everytime

among the ocean of f--- this slow down plz or speed up speed up En master race, how to evaluate?

[toxic scroll]

it's useless to even try to gauge it

honestly

[tough burrow]

you really can't

[stuck copper]

I understand that you can't expect to please everyone... but should it be a more approachable way for this? like submitting google form or such?

[wintry sonnet]

Honestly, I dont have problems with the pacing, just the gacha parts of it which I'm pretty sure is the main issue for most people

[tough burrow]

but should it be a more approachable way for this? like submitting google form or such? It won't solve anything and may even make things worse. We discussed this at some point

[wintry sonnet]

to be fair, I dont think surveying would go that bad

under one condition

you have to actually write stuff down

[stuck copper]

^ that's even worse

people would rant

[toxic scroll]

and who do you throw the responsibility on when it comes to going through all of it?

[wintry sonnet]

well, welcome to opinions. But on the other hand, it'd sift through people who'd just go in to pick a "choose yes/no/maybe"

and only leave out the people who feel passionate enough about the topic to write down their opinion

[stuck copper]

or making a forum

[tough burrow]

People passionate about this are

1. The reason we banned this topic from feedback
2. Aren't representatives of the entire playerbase, so it doesn't even solve anything

[toxic scroll]

you can't take a few peoples word, and apply it to everyone

it doesn't work like that

[stuck copper]

yeah, it's pretty much common knowledge that most people don't bother giving feedback. it's mostly a minority that does

[tough burrow]

Well, anyway, let's move on, because there's no reason to discuss it

[stuck copper]

right

[wintry sonnet]

I mean, you never will get the whole playerbase to chime in anyway. Leaving people too lazy to leave an opinion, majority of people playing propably arent even aware this discord exists

but I digress

[stuck copper]

40 minutes before I send my girl on long commission

[wintry sonnet]

oh, general got slowmoded

[toxic scroll]

to be completely honest

how is general not in a permanent slowmode

[wintry sonnet]

I've been avoiding general for some time tbh

too much meming and lolitalk

[toxic scroll]

i mean in game chat is no better

tbh

[stuck copper]

in-game chat is fun

roasting those who think lolicon and pedophile are the same is fun

[toxic scroll]

unless i'm tracking SSRs i get in builds

and even then

[stuck copper]

and get muted as a result due to the salty one reports me

[toxic scroll]

i go to room 66 or 99

where no one will interrupt me

[tough burrow]

you can just close the chat tho?

[toxic scroll]

mines always off

[wintry sonnet]

hmmm... to give myself eye-cancer or to live a healthy life

[wintry sonnet]

I dunno restart, that's a tough choice

[stuck copper]

and now they are going to suggest a loli yamato

[boreal grail]

I would cry.

[stuck copper]

plz no, Yamato should be, at least, comparable or "superior" to Amagi in term of Yamato Nadeshiko

[wintry sonnet]

admittedly I am a sucker for punishment, so I do look into the in-game chat form time to time just to remind myself "yes, this is what our species is now"

[stuck copper]

as if we haven't got enough lolis in this game already

[toxic scroll]

because we don't

[stuck copper]

sometimes you just want to look at something hideous and say to yourself "thank god that's not me"

[boreal grail]

I think this game is pretty balanced in titty monsters vs lolis

[wintry sonnet]

it's not balanced

[stuck copper]

AL is a bit more titty-bias

[wintry sonnet]

we have loli bb but no milfy DDs

I call bullshit

[stuck copper]

AL is leg heaven

[toxic scroll]

WE NEED MORE NON LEWD BUT COMPLETELY WHOLESOME LOLI SHIPS

[stuck copper]

like Mullany?

[toxic scroll]

who

[wintry sonnet]

srs, Grenville's like the oldest looking DD right now

and even then she's basically a young adult

where's muh housewife DD

[toxic scroll]

any ship can be your housewife

smh

[wintry sonnet]

you know what I mean

[tough burrow]

only legal ones tho

[toxic scroll]

all ships are legal

[stuck copper]

in this instance, what is Unicorn? She looks like a middle school student, but her assets do not

[toxic scroll]

whatever she is, she's legal

[tough burrow]

[boreal grail]

[wintry sonnet]

tbh, its getting harder to justify her being legal

after that l2d skin

[toxic scroll]

looks fine to me

[wintry sonnet]

before you could at least say "She's got a childlike personality and naivety, but she's a teenager at the very least"

now, not so sure

[toxic scroll]

she just has a big brother complex

or w/e you want to call it

[stuck copper]

Unicorn is fan service

[toxic scroll]

she got that good art

[stuck copper]

She was created to satisfy those who wish to be called onii-chan

[toxic scroll]

that's just weird

no thanks

[wintry sonnet]

fan service in AL

[toxic scroll]

hey lets not

[wintry sonnet]

yeah, this is getting into general territory

[toxic scroll]

that last comment

was a little far

[stuck copper]

well then, just to be safe, I will delete it

[tough burrow]

[stuck copper]

so far, only Unicorn fits the stereotype "imouto", right?

can we expect more in the future?

[wintry sonnet]

uh, that's

[toxic scroll]

there might be a few more

[wintry sonnet]

hmmmm...

[toxic scroll]

emphasis on might

[wintry sonnet]

huh...

[toxic scroll]

because ihnfi

[stuck copper]

might?

[wintry sonnet]

I'm actually drawing a blank

there has to be more than her, right?

[stuck copper]

devs considered it at some point in the past?

[tough burrow]

By "imouto" you mean this whole "onii-chan" thing?

Hm

I don't think there's any, at least afaik

[boreal grail]

More imoutos? Unicorn does not approve

[wintry sonnet]

that's... really odd

[stuck copper]

the imouto stereotype means any girls who would call you onii-chan, whether blood-related or not

[wintry sonnet]

I'm trying to think of any other ship who calls you oniichan and nothing

[stuck copper]

even when you get Unicorn's affection to upset, she will still call you onii-chan

and when it is love, she does mention that she is not a good girl

what does she mean in that context?

[boreal grail]

Apparently Bulldog's skill activation line is "For big brother Commander!"

[toxic scroll]

i mean saratoga tells you that she won't call you that

[stuck copper]

nope nope, Bulldog didn't say it in JP line:

Bちゃん、Xちゃん、お願いしますね

Just "B-chan, X-chan, please"

[wintry sonnet]

this is really weird, to be honest

[boreal grail]

Huh, so the Chinese lines really are different

[wintry sonnet]

you'd think there'd be at least 1 more ship to do this whole oniichan schtick

[stuck copper]

@toxic scroll: because she is being considerate: you can't do anything to Lexington if you are her brother...

[wintry sonnet]

but no, just Unicorn out of the 200 however many

[toxic scroll]

who tf mentioned Lexington?

not me

[stuck copper]

normally, if it is not for Unicorn's support skills, I would not consider using her

[boreal grail]

Whoever gets thats archetype next is going to be meme'd to death by yandere Unicorn

[stuck copper]

@toxic scroll: Saratoga won't call you onii-chan, because if she did that, that meant you will be a brother to Lexington, and being that, you can't do farther more to the latter

[boreal grail]

Says who

[wintry sonnet]

it's ok, we're not blood related

[stuck copper]

could you do anything to Unicorn if she called you "onii-chan"? at least for the time being

[boreal grail]

Unicorn no, Illustrious tho...

[toxic scroll]

who said anything about caring about lexington?

Saratoga is the only one that matters

[boreal grail]

[stuck copper]

that's what I said Saratoga being considerate

[wintry sonnet]

speaking of support skills

Shekels well spent

[tough burrow]

👏

[stuck copper]

Unicorn can also buff reload, right?

[tough burrow]

yea

[wintry sonnet]

yea, so akashi and unicorn won't stack

in which case akashi works better off with Shouhou

[stuck copper]

speaking of Shouhou, I am surprised about her aviation

despite being a CVL, she got 300+ aviation, Ranger only got around 280

[toxic scroll]

akashi works better with Shouhou

and Shouhou works better with other carriers

that'a because Shouhou is better

[wintry sonnet]

fun fact about shouhou

originally she was intended to be a submarine tender

both her and zuihou (who's not in AL yet sadly)

[stuck copper]

Zuihou in KC is a cutie, I wonder about her if she comes to AL

[toxic scroll]

i still want to know who Shouhou is referring to when she says "big sis" and Kaga

Zuihou or Akagi

[stuck copper]

Akagi, maybe

Shouhou is the lead ship of her class iirc

[toxic scroll]

no

She's Zuihou class

CN line

JP

to me it sounds like she's talking about Akagi and Kaga

[wintry sonnet]

I'd assume Zuihou in this case

[toxic scroll]

which makes sense in that one 6 digit number

[wintry sonnet]

since nameshp

[toxic scroll]

but iirc Kaga and Zuihou have nothing to do with eachother

[wintry sonnet]

there's just one problem

technically Zuihou isn't her big sister

[toxic scroll]

i still think she's talking about Akagi

[wintry sonnet]

even tho they're called zuihou class, zuihou was built after shouhou

because reasons

[toxic scroll]

so she's talking about Akagi

got it

which i'd think her "big sister" would be kaga

since they're a lot more similar than Akagi and Shouhou

unless Shouhou is also secretly a super lusty commander hunter

[stuck copper]

@wintry sonnet: then Saratoga would be Lexington's big sister, as the former was launched before the latter

and to think that if Lexington suddenly got shrunk into a little sister, I am shuddered

[toxic scroll]

i mean she'd probably just look like Saratoga

but Saratoga would still be better

[stuck copper]

Lexington >>>>>>>>>>>>> Saratoga fite me

[wintry sonnet]

I'd propably just lay it down to artist/dev interpretation

[toxic scroll]

Lexington has the personality of a brick

^

[wintry sonnet]

I mean, mutsuki class are shown as kindergarteners even tho they are older than alot of the other IJN DDs in game

[stuck copper]

Lexington is a lovely lady

[toxic scroll]

a lovely lady with a personality of a brick

[lament flower]

But saras better

[stuck copper]

maybe due to the displacement?

[lament flower]

[stuck copper]

but that is wrong with Nagato's case

a freaking BB should not be a loli in any case

[wintry sonnet]

Sara is a youtube prankster

[toxic scroll]

Nagato is perfect just how she is

literally cannot be upgraded

fite me

[wintry sonnet]

cannot be upgraded

had cg change

[stuck copper]

Nagato should be BB fite me

[toxic scroll]

you know damn well what i'm talking about

too bad Nagato is a BB

Nagato has probably the best oath skin imo

[stuck copper]

Big bewbs I meant

[wintry sonnet]

shouldn't you be happy she's a BB

that way you can have an entire fleet of 6 lolis

[lament flower]

Idr is erebus skin permanent

[toxic scroll]

i don't discriminate against asset size

[stuck copper]

It might be permanent at some point I guess

Why Hiei is a freaking BB but Haruna is not?

[lament flower]

Rip

[crisp palm]

so what is inter respond on this fiesta?

[wintry sonnet]

so far, just an ea response

"We're listening to feedback"

[crisp palm]

welp

100% WC going to be normal

LET'S THE SHIT STORM BEGINS

[wintry sonnet]

I'm getting more convinced that I was right

and their original intention was to release a full on rerun version

but somewhere along the chain of command the decision was either reversed or not communicated properly

at least that's what I'm gathering from his post in server-news

[crisp palm]

meh

well at least we going to have a shit storm in 2 days

works for me

[stuck copper]

......

that's... gonna be bad

[tough burrow]

We already have one

[wintry sonnet]

it's not that bad rest

for one, general's still standing

[tough burrow]

Well, it would be a massive shitshow if we weren't enforcing it hard

[wintry sonnet]

what I mean is

general hasn't gotten nuked

[tough burrow]

It won't be nuked anymore

We can't even if we wanted

[wintry sonnet]

awwww

[crisp palm]

any bet how many ppl going to announce they going to quit or DM threat to inter / devs?

[dim crystal]

well

the event havent hit

[wintry sonnet]

let's see, there's 12k+ people on discord, internet is a thing, the point of contention is a waifu

[dim crystal]

YET

[wintry sonnet]

about 274

[crisp palm]

hmm

[lusty drift]

ngl the AL community is quite immature.

[crisp palm]

i am going to say 9k

since why not lel

not to mention 4chan

[lusty drift]

One thing goes wrong and it's either "APOLOGEMS NOW 😠 " or "I'm quitting this game now"

[crisp palm]

4chan is having a fucking filed day with this fiesta lel

[lusty drift]

4chan in 2k19

[wintry sonnet]

I never understood this "I'm quitting" attitude

[crisp palm]

4chan is funny / interesting to read if you don't care about whether they are correct or not

for anything else not really lel

[wintry sonnet]

if you think the ship is sinking, shouldn't you first try to tell the captain to plug the hole, instead of just saying "fuck it" and jumping overboard

[tough burrow]

[crisp palm]

well in this case you are basically telling the devs to change their decision

[tough burrow]

People don't like being reasonable or productive

[crisp palm]

and how well will that goes?

like how many game devs / publisher that actually listen to the community?

[tough burrow]

Actually plenty

[crisp palm]

within the top 10 of their respective genre?

[tough burrow]

But, as I said before - many people asking won't make it right, so they have 0 reason to follow on every opinion people have

[crisp palm]

[tough burrow]

And also it usually takes a lot of time to make changes

While people want everything NAO

[crisp palm]

if anything i find these fuck up funny tbh

[wintry sonnet]

I think the question here is "Is the shitstorm big enough that they HAVE to listen" and not "Are they going to listen"

[crisp palm]

just to know how much toxic a community really is

[tough burrow]

Not talking about this case, just in general

[dim crystal]

well a mass of people are toxic in general

[wintry sonnet]

By which I dont mean intern and the co

[dim crystal]

[wintry sonnet]

cause I still think the issue came from up above

[dim crystal]

well

[crisp palm]

def

[dim crystal]

if we are going to get sirius

[wintry sonnet]

I'll give intern enough benefit to hold onto my view that he wouldn't willingly lie about this stuff

[dim crystal]

she would have been introduced on twitter

[wintry sonnet]

which by process of elimination means that something happened up on top that made the change happen

[dim crystal]

I think this is planned

really

[crisp palm]

well the question is what he going to gain by lying

0 that's what

[dim crystal]

twitter is scheduled, you know

looks like this is a mix of both rerun and original

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wintry sonnet]

there's one big problem with speculation of this sort

[dim crystal]

and no matchless either

[wintry sonnet]

if this was as simple as a twitter typo

they'd have already fixed it and resovled it

[crisp palm]

even if it is scheduled it does not mean that there should be 0 communication between the dif team of a game

[wintry sonnet]

the fact intern had to say that he's been collecting feedback and going to devs

[crisp palm]

which is the case

[wintry sonnet]

means the issue is bigger than just a typo

[crisp palm]

pretty sure 100% we ain't going to get sirius

[wintry sonnet]

don't say the s word

[crisp palm]

that respond alone tell me enough already

[wintry sonnet]

we harry potter now

[crisp palm]

[wintry sonnet]

she whose name cannot be uthered

[dim crystal]

sirius has escaped

from patch note

[wintry sonnet]

reeeeeee

[tough burrow]

It's not the name which is banned, but speculations and ONG WHERE'S SHE I'M QUTING

[crisp palm]

lel

[wintry sonnet]

Can we still pretend she's Voldemort tho

[tough burrow]

Sure

[wintry sonnet]

in which case, we must answer an important question

[dim crystal]

after 1 day without a fix on patch note

[wintry sonnet]

if she's Voldemort

then who's Harry Potter

[tough burrow]

[dim crystal]

we are not gonna get her, 100%

[crisp palm]

SKK?

[dim crystal]

and why glenville and not matchless

🤔

[wintry sonnet]

oh, matchless

that's it

[tough burrow]

Stop with "we getting/we not getting"

[wintry sonnet]

Matchless is Harry Potter

[crisp palm]

who the fuck know at this point

just wait 2 more days and we will know

[dim crystal]

matchless sound cooler

[crisp palm]

i looking forward to it

[boreal grail]

Still saving my rage until Thursday. I'm holding on to hope we will get her.

[dim crystal]

R A GE

[tough burrow]

It should be Glenville tbh

"The Ship That Survived"

[dim crystal]

eek

[wintry sonnet]

I think this is all a conspiracy

and this patch notes fiasco happened to move us away from the hatsushimo conversation

[dim crystal]

tbh I dont care as long as I get all ships in 100 cubes

[wintry sonnet]

[dim crystal]

[crisp palm]

pretty sure you just jinx yourself lel

[dim crystal]

which I havent done before

its all 100+ for every event

[crisp palm]

the least i ever use in any event is in cranes with 30 pull

feelsgoodman

[wintry sonnet]

tfw I dont have to keep my coins overcap

cause I dont even have enough finishers

[crisp palm]

nyaaa

[wintry sonnet]

I ain't paying gems for finishers, are you high

[boreal grail]

I don't understand how people run out of finishers

[wintry sonnet]

[dim crystal]

400 cubes on light roll

did that to you

goddamn mullany

all the 0:28

[wintry sonnet]

non-stop light construction scam = 1 cube per 1 finisher = bye finishers

[crisp palm]

[wintry sonnet]

cause you get more cubes than finishers overall

every bleedin time

[boreal grail]

You used 400 cubes last event?!

[dim crystal]

yea

[crisp palm]

well on thursday i am going to make some pop corn to go with all the salt

going to be great

[dim crystal]

got 7/8 in under 200

and mullany with another 200

true

[boreal grail]

Go buy a lottery ticket

Your time is coming up soon

[dim crystal]

salted popcorn

on thursday

[wintry sonnet]

tldr right now - discord is in a state of cuban missile crisis

[dim crystal]

a powder keg ready to explode

[wintry sonnet]

the question is, will we avoid firing the first nuke

[crisp palm]

pls don't i want some EXPLOSION in my life

[dim crystal]

the problem with this is that sirius is a cool ship

and those CN JP people has been flexing her

[crisp palm]

maid + big melon = profit

lel

[dim crystal]

EN are like

[wintry sonnet]

I mean, I'm already used to that

[dim crystal]

cool I'm gonna roll for her

[tough burrow]

I think we should prolly drop it

[wintry sonnet]

I've seen Evil flex enough JP ships

i'm immune to this by now

[dim crystal]

then DEV be like

you were expecting sirius?

but it was

[tough burrow]

yea, drop be nice

[crisp palm]

[wintry sonnet]

see, this is why i said "let's pretend she voldemort"

[tough burrow]

Maybe I'm being too subtle?

I dunno

[crisp palm]

now let's talk about some other ship for a change

like taihou or essex

[dim crystal]

well its just that sirius is cool

[wintry sonnet]

staaahp

[dim crystal]

if it was some other ship

[wintry sonnet]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[dim crystal]

nyeh

[tough burrow]

[crisp palm]

mod said to stop continue to talk about said ship

.just dan?

[dim crystal]

nani

[boreal grail]

Poor Matchless. No one gives a shit about her.

[wintry sonnet]

Hey I'll let you finish

I was one of the first here to notice matchless being missing

[boreal grail]

golfclap

[tough burrow]

you know what's funny?

I noticed the list is shorter and tried to figured out who's missing.

[dim crystal]

[tough burrow]

"Oh, matchless, that's right"

[dim crystal]

match who

[tough burrow]

And completely ignored the S-ship

[wintry sonnet]

I got duped at first cause I was like "Wait why's there so few ships? Oh... Duke's in a separate number, ok."

[dim crystal]

[wintry sonnet]

later - "Wait... something's still missing

[crisp palm]

my D is missing

NANI?

[wintry sonnet]

also, tfw almost nobody even noticed

the cygnet skin rerun

[dim crystal]

well at least we are gonna catch up...probably

[tough burrow]

Everyone noticed Cygnet

[crisp palm]

did the event give any worth while reward?

[dim crystal]

in a few months or some shit

[tough burrow]

But went "whatever"

[wintry sonnet]

just some random crap + the skin

which I actually wonder

[dim crystal]

the problem is cygnet already have too many skins

[crisp palm]

meh

[wintry sonnet]

if we already own the skin

what do we get

[dim crystal]

coins

[tough burrow]

nothing

[wintry sonnet]

REEEEEEEEEEE

0/10 worst game ever

[tough burrow]

second skin to put on your Cygnet dupe

[crisp palm]

we get all the reward before the skin i think

[wintry sonnet]

inb4 it's more oil

[crisp palm]

well not like you not going to finish those Q by just doing d3 lel

[wintry sonnet]

I got so much oil in my email right now I could double my cap

if not straight up triple it

[crisp palm]

meh i can break the fucking cap lel

[dim crystal]

just run inefficient fleets

lul

[crisp palm]

well at least on the bright side there are 2 less ship i am going to need to aff farm

lel

[toxic scroll]

@tough burrow i'm pretty sure everyone went "whatever" because no one cared about cygnet

and that for some dumb reason they're re-running her skin event in march

[boreal grail]

Cygnet is great.

[wintry sonnet]

she's k

too many DDs at this point, competition is fierce

I dont dislike her though

[ornate mantle]

I like busty DDs.

[toxic scroll]

Laffey still my favorite or one of my favorite DDs

partially because she's my spirit ship

but that's besides the point

and ah yes, my favorite part

when you aim a salvo in the direct middle of the screen

and they all land in the far corners of the screen

[wintry sonnet]

my favorite part is when you approach an enemy standing in the middle, launch a torp salvo

and she just fucked off to the side making all the torps miss

[toxic scroll]

I only attempt a true facetorp when my torp ship is in the front

no delay between that button and the torps

[bleak condor]

[toxic scroll]

i'm banking on campus being closed tomorrow

since i still need to finish chap 10

yooooo

was that a MF glowworm loading screen?

[ornate mantle]

yea

its op

Not my waifu, but I'm glad to see glowworm getting love.

[toxic scroll]

glowworm kai when

or skin

I didn't know i wanted that

until now

[lone sinew]

finally got to 10000

[dim crystal]

well

last day

high time for some new surprise announcement

[lone sinew]

tbh

i want them to give us a break from events

[dim crystal]

why?

[lone sinew]

did i'm getting burned out

cus

[cosmic pier]

apply some ice to the burnt area

its bound to get better

[ornate mantle]

I wasn't as invested in Ryujou as I was in Spee.

[dim crystal]

its a bug

[toxic scroll]

i'm not explaining it anymore

[tough burrow]

#461437354872143883

[deft sand]

[toxic scroll]

i still could've sworn the hardmode danger level thing was known

but i'm still proven wrong

[vital edge]

You can't expect everyone to know any one thing

there's always a good load of people who live under a rock

[toxic scroll]

its one of those things

that you're going to run into eventually

and if you even tap the danger level thing when you first press a node

it tells you in hardmode when you get to 0 only the boss spawns

[stuck copper]

Hello there 😎

Hello there

[cosmic pier]

general incredibilis

[dim crystal]

[stuck copper]

Quite an interesting situation in general huh

[cosmic pier]

typical shitfest for this server

[lone sinew]

[stuck copper]

the general is running amok

avrora club became my safe haven

I think it's been our safe haven for a long time now

[lone sinew]

i muted general

[stuck copper]

on the other hand, Sandy club might be the Netherrealm

[lone sinew]

sandy club is the last circle of hell

[cosmic pier]

avrora stopped being my safe haven a while ago

[stuck copper]

@cosmic pier: because you know you will be incredibilis?

[lone sinew]

trophy room is the circle of greed

[cosmic pier]

meh

[lone sinew]

[cosmic pier]

I get annoyed at like 99% of people easily

[stuck copper]

infirmus

[cosmic pier]

etiam

[dim crystal]

the best chat is trophy room easily

you can just flood that place with salt

[lone sinew]

[stuck copper]

agreed

[dim crystal]

that weed out the pleb

[stuck copper]

it is where whale shows their muscle

[cosmic pier]

I got told I should die when I sent 1 fight honolewdlewd drop

[dim crystal]

[stuck copper]

I remember making people hate me for a fight 3 Poi

[cosmic pier]

I mean thats still 3 whole runs

[dim crystal]

i've told them many times

[cosmic pier]

I got hono literally on first node

[dim crystal]

the best way to save oil

is just to be lucky

and get the drop first try

[lone sinew]

is not play

[stuck copper]

MvP your luck

[lone sinew]

[dim crystal]

[stuck copper]

I will just be patient with farming then

I did not have much luck for such

[lone sinew]

[cosmic pier]

niizuki was prob the hardest to get elite for me so far
then again I stopped farming jints and went back to farming dupes for other ships while levelling stuff up

[lone sinew]

ppl not being patient in a gacha game

[cosmic pier]

guy I know keeps being like

"I put so much effort so I deserve the drop"

Im like

[lone sinew]

[dim crystal]

i got niizuki like after 4 tries

[cosmic pier]

bitch this aint a normal game its a luck heavy game

[dim crystal]

havent even 3 starred it

[stuck copper]

well, drop is random after all

Yeah like this game

The only thing it does reward

[dim crystal]

[stuck copper]

but the combat is definitely your effort

Is determination to keep running the same thing over and over

[cosmic pier]

autoing isnt effort

[stuck copper]

I didn't say about auto

[lone sinew]

if you auto

[dim crystal]

well try running w10 blind first day

I autoed

and was like

crap

[lone sinew]

you don't deserve drops

[dim crystal]

why are my botes dying

[cosmic pier]

getting nicholas vs niizucc

[dim crystal]

then i decided to just muscle it

[stuck copper]

because you are not incredibilis

[dim crystal]

by manual

[cosmic pier]

them's fitin words

ya wanna 1v1?

pls go easy on me ;-;

[stuck copper]

yes, come at me bruh

[lone sinew]

1v1 me rust knife only

[cosmic pier]

I cant

not at home

[dim crystal]

[stuck copper]

I will try world 10 some day

at least, during the stopping gap between events

[dim crystal]

just manual it at first

[cosmic pier]

mhh Im not baffled bout how long it took to farm niizuki, I levelled a few ships to 100 in there

normal people: REEEEEEE 23748932658326 RUNS NO NIIZUKI
me: I levelled ships so its gucci

[dim crystal]

I've been very lucky in getting drops

[cosmic pier]

[stuck copper]

[dim crystal]

all of them are like 1-3 days

but rolls is another matter

I'm utterly shit at that

[cosmic pier]

I wouldnt know what to do if I had all the drop ships anyways

wait I do

farming dupes!

kek

using houshou to farm houshou dupes rn, 4/5 done, need to grab another dupe

[stuck copper]

because this game has bulin, so it is just optional to farm dupe

but I did farm dupes back then in fox mine

[cosmic pier]

it has bulins but also 29347238472934 ships I wanna MLB

gotta farm dupes so I can use the bulins on other ships

[stuck copper]

I have 2^64 ships need to be limit broken

[cosmic pier]

shoulda mlb the an-shans too sometime

zzzz

prob 2 years later

pvp shop aint giving me enough bulins

[stuck copper]

I will have 4 golden bulin after server reset in ETA 50 mins

I have like 10-11 myself

[dim crystal]

i have mlbed every SR

with 3 purin to spare

[stuck copper]

back then during Crimson Echoes, I scrapped like 10 of them due to not having enough dock space and out of coins

Scrapping a purin

[dim crystal]

[cosmic pier]

gj

[stuck copper]

yes, I didn't believe I did that

but I did

[cosmic pier]

I only got 1 purin right now
and she's my first one ever
not gonna be scrapping her

or feeding her

[stuck copper]

you must honor her wish by feeding her for MLB

[cosmic pier]

but there's 1 in form of weekly and another in medal shop so I basically got 2 purins

and then some in pvp shop

[stuck copper]

Yeah 10 atm and I don't have the weekly yet

[cosmic pier]

I never have enough purins on my hands but

always got em when I need to mlb a new ship

[stuck copper]

that made me a shytkikan

[cosmic pier]

need 5 more purins to mlb the SSRs I got rn and some more for the new ones to come

problem is with purples

as always

even with retro BPs n stuff

[stuck copper]

with the current hot on the trail trending on EN right now, expect to be low on Bulin

Yeah at least until we catch up

[cosmic pier]

never been high on bulins to begin with

always spending em

[stuck copper]

I expanded my dock into 200

[lone sinew]

has +20 bulin in dock

[stuck copper]

now I can have more breathing room

[lone sinew]

[cosmic pier]

nice 20+ bulins you aint ever using

[lone sinew]

cus i have no idea what to lb

[cosmic pier]

ships

[lone sinew]

also

i'm saving bulin for retrofits

[cosmic pier]

[stuck copper]

I wait for Kagerou retrofit

[cosmic pier]

if I were to say Im waiting for a particular retro aside from the elite carrier ones

it'd be nicholas and foxhound

[stuck copper]

Foxhound is a meme

[cosmic pier]

that foxhound retro is

[stuck copper]

Her upgrade makes her on par with every other titty ships

Foxhound default art isn't bad, at least when comparing to other ships that first arrive in AL

[cosmic pier]

wonder if I'll get my 1 daily hoe shoe today too so I can be done with her

dunno who I'd farm dupes for next tho

gotta decide

niizuki can get pretty weird

[stuck copper]

well then, when will Akizuki arrive?

the lead ship of her class, yet only her sisters are present in game right now

[cosmic pier]

which class?

[stuck copper]

Akizuki-class

by I mean "lead ship", the first ship will be used for class name

mostly, not in many cases with RN

[cosmic pier]

now what ships are in the akizuki class

[stuck copper]

Harutsuki, Niizuki, Yoizuki

We have three in game

[cosmic pier]

ah

[stuck copper]

Still need Akizuki, Suzutsuki

by the way, Harutsuki, when being touched in her breast:

し、指揮官さま！お願い！やめてください！うう

C...Commander, please, stop, urg...

Instant protecc

[cosmic pier]

special touch
then go for protecc

[stuck copper]

because I realized I made a terrible mistake

[cosmic pier]

lul

[tough burrow]

protecc from yourself

[cosmic pier]

newcastle has one of the best if not THE best special touch line

[lone sinew]

[stuck copper]

She hugs you so that she can break your bones in retaliation

I think all ship girls are stronger than a normal human. physically

[lone sinew]

yes

i bet laffey can win against the rock

[cosmic pier]

yes even mutsuki is stronger than you

[stuck copper]

surprisingly, Amagi takes it rather lightly. she is just thinking of something, without noticing her commander playing with her breast...

[lone sinew]

mutsuki can break your spine if she g
hugs too hard

[cosmic pier]

kaga's like

"meh if you have fun with it then go on"

[stuck copper]

Akagi will just tell you to do more

Kaga, but only her CV form. Her BB form will go full muda muda on you

[lone sinew]

when you squeeze kaga bob she asks for you to squeeze harder

[cosmic pier]

not really

[stuck copper]

Kaga will endure if that makes you feel better

[lone sinew]

kaga will endure it if it makes her stronger