#avrora-general

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cosmic pier
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prob only got her on trash fleet

lone sinew
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no

cosmic pier
stuck copper
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Did you do it on boss only fleet

lone sinew
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yes

stuck copper
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Every other fleet doesn't matter for it

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Only the boss does

lone sinew
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so i only need 1 of the ships that increase points in the boss fleet

stuck copper
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Yes

lone sinew
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oke

stuck copper
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I use Sara mostly cause

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I use Sara / Wash / Dakota / Helena

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On my Bossing fleet

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Trashing fleet I use NC and Clevedaddy

verbal obsidian
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o is "how cute" , Luci

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i caught up on that show last night xd

lone sinew
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so wait

cosmic pier
lone sinew
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1 ship increases points by 50

stuck copper
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It doesn't stack

verbal obsidian
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^

lone sinew
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normal point gain is 150q

stuck copper
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If that's what you're assuming

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Yes

lone sinew
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okey

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thanks

cosmic pier
verbal obsidian
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ganbatte sharko-kun

lone sinew
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now i go back to work

cosmic pier
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I mean that was already said LaffeyDrinkEvolvedv2

verbal obsidian
lone sinew
verbal obsidian
stuck copper
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2 more batterus

cosmic pier
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razz too slow

stuck copper
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Tbf

cosmic pier
stuck copper
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I've cleared it 100% in probably less than a day

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Since I left it to the last second

dim crystal
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hmm

verbal obsidian
dim crystal
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maybe just not getting coins from shop is better than spending it on crap like gold chests

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I'm getting overflow without the ability to buy anything

verbal obsidian
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do u plan to pull from WC

dim crystal
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yea

verbal obsidian
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o3o there ya go

dim crystal
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in the past i always want to clear every quests every day

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by getting my gold under the limit, buying crap like chests

verbal obsidian
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ah ah

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dont blame u

stuck copper
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Here's a better way to analyze it

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Are boxes limited

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While that's true

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The availability is permanent

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Botes are not

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Let's also not forget

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The best boxes

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Are gotten from core

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Aka T5

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It's not wasted if it allows you to get something you want

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It's only wasted if you keep it and don't plan to do anything with the gold ever

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I know that

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But again

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It's only wasted if you sit over cap for literally no reason

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Except with botes

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You're not doing it for no reason

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Honestly

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99% of the time

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Gold boxes give crap anyway

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I mean I've yet to even get RP10

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Well parts I understand early on

lone sinew
stuck copper
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Later on you don't really need them as much

lone sinew
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i return

stuck copper
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Since T3 drop all the time later

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Boxes / books are naturally always useful

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Well I mean more

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If you miss them

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It's not as big a deal

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While books aren't farmable

verbal obsidian
cosmic pier
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if you upgrade everything you get your hands on ofc you wont ever have enough GWowoHehe

stuck copper
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Lol

cosmic pier
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most of my gold consumption is on limit breaks pepeclap

stuck copper
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Like for me Ran

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I tend to prioritize things

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It's a lot easier to keep track that way

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I swap gear myself but that's more due to a lack of the gear I need

lone sinew
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if yostar added a way for the quick equip to equip gear on a ship with out getting the "this gear is missing" message

cosmic pier
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i just unequip stuff from ships when im done with em

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like the pvp ships

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and auto load the sets on the ships i use on pvp

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quick and effercent kek

dim crystal
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well I have all the gold items in boxes already

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multiple of each

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so wasting like 20k gold on boxes

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just to get like that much natural gold

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๐Ÿค”

stuck copper
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I mean the extra gold would probably only give purples 99% of the time anyway

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Tbf

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That should be a function

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Because once you get to a certain point

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Purple boxes are just garbage

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Looks at Helena affection

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199

cosmic pier
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purple boxes aint garbo

stuck copper
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Yeah they give me free oil and gold

dim crystal
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decided to skip the daily gold quest

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๐Ÿค”

stuck copper
cosmic pier
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they help those times you aint got a single gold and need just a few

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then remember you got 1004826152926 purple boxes laying around

stuck copper
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I'll retract it then

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They have some use

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I just wish we had more use for them

dim crystal
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more useful equips

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maybe

cosmic pier
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also purple boxes are good for baiting people in #al-general

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you send a ss

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they all go like

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"REEEE REEE REEE TROPHY DELET"

stuck copper
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Well true enough

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It's great bait

cosmic pier
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its lovely how 99% of people who reeee at you to go read trophy rules dont read the rules themselves

stuck copper
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Like how they did it to me

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When I posted Port Kai

cosmic pier
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@smoky burrow almost danned me for hammann kai

stuck copper
regal reef
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reminder that baiting can be considered as incitement emileSip

cosmic pier
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pls once every 2 weeks ish isnt that much GWtogaTheSaddest

verbal obsidian
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okawaiikoto

regal reef
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not gonna go by time emileSip

cosmic pier
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also i dont mean baiting as literal baiting i just dont have a better word

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ingliz is hard

verbal obsidian
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๐Ÿ”จ syanda here to banish the delinquents

regal reef
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The nice thing about trophy rules

cosmic pier
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syanda is just synd but animated

regal reef
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Is that I managed to get a certain phrase added to the ruleset some time back

cosmic pier
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hm?

verbal obsidian
cosmic pier
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the "if its not there doesnt mean we cant wreck you"?

regal reef
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Pictures that are consider to be "trophy" include but are not limited to the following:

verbal obsidian
cosmic pier
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i mean like every kind of ruling needs something like that to give the mods some sort of cop out like everywhere

regal reef
verbal obsidian
cosmic pier
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rip

verbal obsidian
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i didnt even know oath ships could have bad moods

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i thought our love was eternal

cosmic pier
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lol

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wonder what happens if you get it to red and drain affection

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imagine 1 affection oathed ship

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levelling bucket's skill to pair with the div6 dds GWowoHehe

verbal obsidian
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i thought that said "Flat Carrier" LeanderXD

cosmic pier
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that's sara's skill

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rather just use the 3 desdiv6 ships but guess at times I can use like ina bucket ika just to increase the buff amount

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kat almost there

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hibiki where aworryComeatme

verbal obsidian
cosmic pier
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I wanna level the skills too

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but

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REDS

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ALL OF EM

verbal obsidian
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i leveled akatsuki thinking we'd get her winter skin

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boy was i disappointed

cosmic pier
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lol

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i really like her winter skin but cant afford it

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its in the list of "skills i woulda get if i was actually rich and had some nice amount of gems" @verbal obsidian

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skins in that list are isuzu's halloween, akatsuki's skin, and izumo's skin

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prob dork's too

verbal obsidian
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Yeah im sad i skipped on a few like lexington and her legs

cursive ruin
cosmic pier
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isnt that always

verbal obsidian
lament flower
stuck copper
cosmic pier
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wonder what should I name my erebus and terror this roation

lone sinew
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Javelin is reconsidering her marriage to shikikan

cosmic pier
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ok brb killing myself

stuck copper
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Actually using Auditorium

lone sinew
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idk how to refill auditorium

stuck copper
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By using Lvl 100 botes

lone sinew
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oof

stuck copper
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A % of the exp they gain

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Gets stored

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The higher level the auditorium the more it stores

lone sinew
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but that costs me alot of oil

stuck copper
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For reference

lone sinew
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inb4 12h sortie lvl 100 ships

stuck copper
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It gives at lvl 10

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From my knowledge

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57,600 exp

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For the 12 hours

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From max

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For reference that's over 3 10 hour commissions

lone sinew
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my amagi just crit 3540 with AP gun

stuck copper
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Also btw Shark

lone sinew
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yes?

stuck copper
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Using 100 ships isn't a bad idea

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Since it stores exp now

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For 110 cap

lone sinew
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hmm

stuck copper
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And since 110

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Needs about another 1 million exp

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It's really not a bad idea

lone sinew
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am I the only person finding this odd?

single 127mm: 3 shots
twin 127mm: 4 shots

stuck copper
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Lol

lone sinew
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twin 127mm has
+25 AA
-5 FP

lament flower
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Lol nice

sand robin
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arrrgh i suddenly realised that i shouldn't be spending coins on upgrading lecture hall but saving for winter's crown

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T___________T

dim crystal
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too late

sand robin
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only have 10k left

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that's barely 10 rolls

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will spam 10hr commissions now hope can get enough ><

dim crystal
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nope

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well

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you dont have to get everyone on the first day

kind plank
cosmic pier
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but not getting all ships day 1 is for plebs

lone sinew
dim crystal
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well

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not getting everyone in the first day pains me

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but my luck is shit

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literally

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360 cubes amagi 400 mullany

cosmic pier
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just pay some skill points and increase your luck stat

lone sinew
dim crystal
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but ppl said doing an INT build

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is the best

cosmic pier
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int AkkoThink

stuck copper
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But wouldn't an int build

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Make you want to do it asap so you don't risk losing it

cosmic pier
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fuck is an int build

lament flower
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Wudnt an int build require high spd too

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Just bc u do it asap doesnt mean ull do it quick enough

stuck copper
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That is true indeed

lone sinew
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am at 6470 points atm

cosmic pier
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osoi!

verbal obsidian
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day 1 must have all waifus

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im 300 cubes and no gold ready

cosmic pier
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How very cute

verbal obsidian
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okawaiikoto

stuck copper
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200 cubes. i love to live dangerously

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318 atm

cosmic pier
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I've got up to like 70k gold HamBite

stuck copper
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About 60k myself

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Despite spending quite a bit recently

dim crystal
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120

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just recovered from new year

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fuck

cosmic pier
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after I'm done pulling Imma just get the next 3 lvls of shitture hall

stuck copper
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Yeah I finished of the lecture hall myself

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To it's current max

dim crystal
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I still need 3 commander level

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......

stuck copper
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So I can just gradually keep working on it along the way now

dim crystal
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to get the last upgrade

cosmic pier
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it aint managing to impress me so I didnt find any need to level it more yet GWowoHehe

dim crystal
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its only impressive if you are grinding

stuck copper
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I'm not even using it anyway

cosmic pier
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Im grinding but not with 100s

dim crystal
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its like that so you can just use any ship you want

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without losing exp

lament flower
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Just more options basically

stuck copper
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Well as mentioned

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12 hours at max is about 3 10 hr commissions worth

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Which would equate to about 3600 oil

dim crystal
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it would be easier for new players to lvl up ships

stuck copper
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Yeah since as long as you keep the morale up

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That's a lot of exp

cosmic pier
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huh/

dreamy turtle
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no sirius

boreal grail
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They forgot her skin too mutsukiStare

dreamy turtle
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๐Ÿค”

boreal grail
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Lots of boats missing from the new ship list actually

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Not lots but Matchless not there

crisp palm
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well if they indeed fuck up another time = free gem again

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so i ain't complaining lel

cosmic pier
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they wont give gems for a twitter mistake

lone sinew
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they shouldn't

crisp palm
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was talking about the actual event

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like suppose to be rerun version but somehow get normal version

lone sinew
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also why did we get 50 gems today?

crisp palm
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sneak peak

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they somehow fuck up the time or something

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got sneak peak of WC

lone sinew
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but why give us gems

dreamy turtle
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Sirius icon was on the event thing too

crisp palm
cosmic pier
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they gave us gems cause they wanted to

lone sinew
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oh you saw a sneak peek here have sum gems as compensation

cosmic pier
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duh

dreamy turtle
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I need my maid, still hoping she gets added

crisp palm
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i rather they don't so we can have another shit storm = more chance for free gem

dim crystal
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nah

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I dont want delays

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who cares about some gems

cosmic pier
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me

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not everyone is a Whale like you folks ok

boreal grail
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Im a whale and I want delays for gems

cosmic pier
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lol

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man of culture

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ored

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ashi getting secretary quest? AkkoThink

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good thing I got ashi maxed

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first secretary quest Im gonna actually finish

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second prob gonna be akagi lel

boreal grail
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Ughhhh I dont wanna level herrr

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To the dorm!

cosmic pier
dim crystal
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already done

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not sure if i should oath them tho

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I'm not a whale

cosmic pier
boreal grail
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Be the whale

cosmic pier
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I doubt that fact

dim crystal
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just use them

cosmic pier
dim crystal
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i used them all the time

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on w10

cosmic pier
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my neps are maxed

lament flower
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All while secretary portland keeps talking about indy

dim crystal
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you can almost HEAR it

cosmic pier
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good thing I dont

lament flower
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Wat if u marry portland and name her indy

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Wud that make her narcissistic

dreamy turtle
cosmic pier
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time to get my porkland's affection to 1

cosmic pier
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people such mad over sirius not being in the notes

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I love it

lament flower
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Oof

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R we not getting her or is it a mistake?

cosmic pier
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sa

crisp palm
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who cares

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if they indeed fuck up = more free gem

stuck copper
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Well apparently during the bug

crisp palm
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so i dc either way

cosmic pier
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translator's note: who knows

stuck copper
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They weren't in collection either

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So we might actually not get them

lament flower
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Rip

crisp palm
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ppl are desperate for a pair of melon

stuck copper
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As they were the only two not there

lament flower
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That means more vicky focus

stuck copper
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I mostly want her cause she works with my idea

cosmic pier
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good thing i dont got half a fuck to give for the 2 missing ships

crisp palm
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same lel

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more free gem

stuck copper
crisp palm
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no fuck given

stuck copper
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See

lament flower
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Lol

stuck copper
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Apparently they're the only two which is weird

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Since they said it was rerun ver right

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And the only reason KMS never got most of theirs was cause

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Subs aren't implemented

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I don't see why that would affect these two though

crisp palm
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bottom line is just wait and chill

cosmic pier
crisp palm
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tbh i am in favor of not getting the rerun

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so that i can see how much of a shit storm this community going to have

cosmic pier
boreal grail
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97% evade rate.. fail twice in a row sandyCry

cosmic pier
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kek

stuck copper
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Nah

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99% evade

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Fail

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Best rate

cosmic pier
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100% fail tho

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time to finish this

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was kinda waiting for ere's skin GWowoHehe

ornate mantle
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Almost at the finish line.

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With the new shit coming on Thursday.

cosmic pier
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actually might just buy jamai skin for the background

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prob not tho

ornate mantle
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So much food I never have to worry.

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And yeah, Jamaicaโ€™s skin is phenomenal.

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Although, my desire to buy skins has recently died down after getting the Fusou skin.

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I think the only one I want from this point onwards is like... Victoriousโ€™ skin

stuck copper
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Yeah there are a lot of good skins this event

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Me plan to nab them all

cosmic pier
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yosh

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got another hoe shoe

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just 1 more to grab

boreal grail
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Put some respeck on her name

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Houshou doesnt deserve that

cosmic pier
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funny shit is I got her from a trash fleet blocking way to boss taiga_clap

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sorry but shoe hoe is shoe hoe and hoe shoe is hoe shoe

boreal grail
cosmic pier
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I've been getting 1 hoe shoe per day

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and like 2 terror/erebus per half a day

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welllll

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4 sounds a bit too low ish
then again idk how many times do I run it myself since i always stay between 9-11k oil anyways

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I dont really feel need for breaks when I just play pretty carefree

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just do runs while watching anime without killing myself over stuff GWowoHehe

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no mental strain or need for break kek

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oh hey

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spreak of the devil

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got another erebus

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doesnt feel good having to retire mah waifus PepeHands

boreal grail
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I love retiring excess Takaos, she blesses me with 10 medals every time

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Best girl

cosmic pier
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lul

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I've got like 2 dupes of taco so far I think

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both went on LB

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could use 2 more

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then rest are medals kek

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just got trashmann and her sister in a row

verbal obsidian
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oof

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that jamaica skin got me weak in the knees

cosmic pier
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i like her default way better

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it doesnt even cost gems

verbal obsidian
cosmic pier
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only edge the skin has is the background kek

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I like that

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casual

toxic scroll
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Maybe her casual is just more thrilling than other ships warShrug

cosmic pier
slow drum
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idk who to mlb
sodak, tirpitz, atahoe or enty even tho I don't use her?

cosmic pier
dreamy turtle
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OWARIDA Enty, always Enty

cosmic pier
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them new ships gonna make me delay mlb'ing tako and eldbitch GWowoHehe

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never enty

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trash enty

boreal grail
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Ya'll are so RUDE

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"Hoe shoe"
"Atahoe"
"Eldbitch"

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These waifus don't deserve this

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Atahoe is the truth though, can't deny that.

slow drum
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I like atago but shes still a hoe AkagiLul

cosmic pier
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atagoat

boreal grail
slow drum
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like without one atago fanart I wouldn't even have started to play al

cosmic pier
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I like naming stuff ok

slow drum
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nah I think I save up the purins for soft landings sister

cosmic pier
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wonder if any of the non 100s can solo flag 7 4 AkkoThink

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few jihads get past mah vanguard here n there

boreal grail
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Repulse not 100

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Criminal scum

cosmic pier
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sorry she was a bit repulsive

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hmm maybe take a ship or two off from vanguard and then slap zukek shokek in

clear gate
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Repulsive? Gosh

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Repulse is one of the sweetest girls in the game

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How could you

cosmic pier
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Im pretty feelingless as it goes

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dont care much bout repulsive sweetness

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I guess I'll just send hoe shoe and see if she can live with her 45 fp and belgun kek

clear gate
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Why are you like this

cosmic pier
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who knows

dreamy turtle
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Rei just likes trashing anything that isn't his waifu, don't mind him laffeyDrink

cosmic pier
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you're trash

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its ok the character I picked my name after is about as nuts and trashing as I am Kappalul

dreamy turtle
cosmic pier
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guess my L70 hoeshoe could survive it with her non existent FP and belgun n all that

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dont think she ever killed a jihad tho GWowoHehe

verbal obsidian
cosmic pier
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sure ablobreach

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same

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sl10 vs sl1

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sideproduct of 100+ blue books and barely any reds GWqlabsKek

ornate mantle
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Donโ€™t you have red purples.

warm bluff
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nicholas is so cute manjuNom

verbal obsidian
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no u

warm bluff
verbal obsidian
wintry sonnet
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nu, pizdec

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no sirius on patch notes

wet storm
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nu, ne rugaisya

toxic scroll
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I mean, why would she

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Not obtainable yet

wet storm
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its kinda idiotic to not put modern-rerun- event-versions

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that means we will have the rerun of that old shit in future

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instead of new content

toxic scroll
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Neat

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Honolulu first 10-2 run today

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Maybe I'll actually clear 10-4 tonight now

verbal obsidian
wintry sonnet
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I mean, I wouldn't mind not adding the newest ships into the events, since they still want the reruns to have something to offer

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but it does kinda go against this whole rush to JP/CN laffeyDrink

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esp since they already added grenville

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At least with DC it made sense, cause we dont have the subs implemented in yet

wet storm
toxic scroll
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Can't really add content for a event we don't have lmao

wet storm
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rush to JP/CN must be their top 1 task asap

toxic scroll
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I.e, if an event was really big on, say, level 110+ ships

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Subs in this case I guess

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Idk what the original WC had vs the rerun

wintry sonnet
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I guess I must be imagining things like Grenville being released on EN even though she wasn't there originally warShrug

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also, Sirius is actually usable in the current gameplay, yet oddly absent

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yet there was no problem adding in someone like Chaser

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a ship with a mechanic we dont even have yet

toxic scroll
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Trying to justify why a ship should be added doesn't really matter to the devs

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If they don't want to add them

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Yet

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They wont

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She'll probably get a mini event or somecrap

wintry sonnet
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point being, there was a logical reason not to release subarines on DC even though they included other non-og ships. Even Chaser being added had some logic, as it was following the "we wanna catch up to other servers" idea

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including Grenville but not Sirius for our WC seems illogical

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and goes against the whole idea of catching up

toxic scroll
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We don't have to follow other servers idea for idea

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That's already been proven

wintry sonnet
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You're ignoring the point entirely

toxic scroll
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It's not about catching up

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Clearly we are

wintry sonnet
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then why the half measure laffeyDrink

toxic scroll
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Because

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Not every event will/has to be the same

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Look at DC

wintry sonnet
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you mean the event where they literally couldn't release some of the ships

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because of there not being a mechanic on EN for the said ships

toxic scroll
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That's not what I'm talking about

wintry sonnet
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not sure how what they did for DC relates to here

toxic scroll
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But w/e

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On your point

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Then why add chaset

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Chaser

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Since we don't have subs, the thing one of her skills is specifically about

wintry sonnet
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I'm starting to think I'm constantly copy-pasting what I said before

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I already adressed Chaser

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Even if her mechanic doesnt work for EN yet, it does fall in line with the idea of catching up to other servers

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not to mention she's not mechanically incapable of using

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you can still use her and she still has a skill that works

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it's just one of her skills right now is unusable

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you dont need to release an entire mechanic for Chaser to exist

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just like you dont have to release anything extra for sirius cause she already falls in line with the current state of EN

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if anything she's even more fitting considering that carriers are still a big thing

toxic scroll
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They obviously have different plans for sirius

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For not adding her here

wintry sonnet
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which is perfectly reasonable

toxic scroll
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We won't know the reason until they announce what they're doing

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Which my guess is a mini event

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Like the z23 skin

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Or something, idk what you'd want to call it

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That's my assumption

wintry sonnet
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on an unrelated note

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tfw you read the maintenance tweet after waking up

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and it takes you couple minutes to realise the login reward is hatsuharu not hatsushimo

toxic scroll
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Oof

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I've barely looked at it

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Kinda bored me after the first line

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And I'm not very interested in any of the new ships

wintry sonnet
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actually

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now that I took a second look

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it's not just Sirius missing

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Matchless is not on the list either

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there's a total of 9 ships in WC now, 7 in the patch notes

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and Matchless was originally there, wasn't she thinkZed

tough burrow
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Or, there's more logical reason - they forgot to add her to the notes GWcfcThonk

wintry sonnet
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poor matchless

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not relevant enough to be included ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

tough burrow
wintry sonnet
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Oh yea

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that thing too

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That makes even less sense that Sirius's not on the list

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when they literally added her portrait entyLUL

tough burrow
#

It's either intentional (for some reason?) or they forgot to include them in patch notes warShrug

toxic scroll
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Why the Cygnet event thing rerun though

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Is my question

tough burrow
#

The what thing what?

wintry sonnet
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Cygnet swimsuit skin rerun

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it's number 7 on patch notes

toxic scroll
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In march

tough burrow
#

Oh

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Lol

toxic scroll
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Very bottom

tough burrow
wintry sonnet
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my guess is because the skin was added early on, not many people got it

tough burrow
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Yea, just noticed

toxic scroll
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The most useless one on the list Imo lmao

wintry sonnet
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cause wasn't it like what, a 2nd skin?

toxic scroll
#

Maybe

tardy violet
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what happen if we already have Cygnet swimsuit

wintry sonnet
#

back when we had maybe 2 servers

toxic scroll
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Didn't pay much attention

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Nothing

wintry sonnet
#

I mean I agree with you it's kinda dumb to rerun it anyway

toxic scroll
#

Of importance I think

wintry sonnet
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cause we already had NY cygnet entyLUL

tough burrow
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See no harm in it either way

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who care about cygnet anyway

toxic scroll
#

I dont

wintry sonnet
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actually, now that I remember

toxic scroll
wintry sonnet
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it was the 2nd skin

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1st one was Yamashiro

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so they're not even rerunning them in order entyLUL

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Some weird ideas are going around

toxic scroll
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Gross

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How about instead of rerunning skins no one cares about

wintry sonnet
#

ok I think they did actually just forget Sirius and Matchless

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just found this under the maint tweet

toxic scroll
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They push the artists to make skins for ships that don't have any

wintry sonnet
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so I guess it's just the devs failing at twitter again entyLUL

verbal obsidian
toxic scroll
wintry sonnet
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Seriously, gimmie like a couple gems Yostar

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I'll proofread your tweets for you laffeyDrink

rustic epoch
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They push the artists to make skins for ships that don't have any
how many skins does ayanami have now

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i lost count

toxic scroll
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That's because Ayanami is a fan favorite

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For some dumb reason

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6 skins

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7 counting base cg

wet storm
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how rude about Cygnet

toxic scroll
#

Boycott ๅคงๆœˆ็ด…่‘‰ AkagiLul

wet storm
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one of the best gals

toxic scroll
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Nah

wintry sonnet
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I mean, I dont mind aya, I quite like her in fact, she's my 2nd favorite

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but I don't like how Nimi gets the short end of the stick just because she's a collection reward on JP

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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Aya has the most skins in the game, Laffey and Jav have L2Ds, Jav and Aya have oath skins

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Nimi meanwhile has 1 skin, no oath, no l2d

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besides the base l2d on her vanilla

toxic scroll
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Because jap artists are biased

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(I think they're jap)

wintry sonnet
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the new additions almost certainly are

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not sure about the OGs

tough burrow
#

Nimi is not that popular in JP/CN I think

toxic scroll
#

"this ship gives me more *money, popularity, w/e*

wintry sonnet
#

also if we wanna argue popularity

toxic scroll
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*does only that ship*

wintry sonnet
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Shoukaku was higher on popularity vote than Akagi

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show me my shoukaku skins warShrug

tough burrow
#

Also she's not even the starter on JP iirc?

toxic scroll
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Not to the artists

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Players maybe

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Not the artist who made her

wintry sonnet
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correct res, nimi was collection reward on jp

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for whatever reason EN used the CN starters

toxic scroll
#

Again

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Artist bias probably

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They probably don't ask for specific ships often/ at all

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Just a ship

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Taking Test, brb

wintry sonnet
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I highly doubt the artists just get a free reign on what ships skins they wanna draw

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you know, I've been thinking

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cause this whole patch notes missing stuff situation seems to be occuring quite often recently

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to the point it seems almost calculated

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what if it's just a bad pr attempt at having a surprise reveal warShrug

tough burrow
#

Yes, it's possible they just going for "she wasn't announced yet" or smth, but who knows

ornate mantle
#

Last minute announcement most likely.

wintry sonnet
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honestly, if this is a planned pr stunt, I kinda feel like it's having an adverse effect

tough burrow
#

But it seems like will create more harm than good

wintry sonnet
#

yeah, especially since intern's on the record saying we're gonna get all the rerun ships

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all this is gonna cause is create the image of devs lying about stuff

tough burrow
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Maybe that's why they do it? Like, people already kinda know we getting all of them, so they expect we wouldn't worry? warShrug

stuck copper
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I will take Intern-kun's words with a grain of salt

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EN staffs don't have full control over the content, so even they won't have accurate info

ornate mantle
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Iโ€™ll just wait till tomorrow night, entyLUL

tough burrow
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I wont tbh. I don't remember him lying about leeks

wintry sonnet
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I'll say this much, I doubt intern would purposely lie about stuff like that, so if it turns out that Sirius's not being added to our WC, it must've been a last-second decision form higher ups

stuck copper
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he might be sincere, but that does not mean it's true

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still, I will be waiting

tough burrow
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While they don't have full control - it's not like they are that separate from CN or JP staff as far as I know warShrug

ornate mantle
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Just believe you fool.

tough burrow
#

Believe in Leek akashiSparkle

ornate mantle
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Believe in your devs

wintry sonnet
#

still, if this isn't planned and just a big typo

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then I say they REALLY need to hire proofreaders for their announcements entyLUL

stuck copper
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I don't leek akashiSparkle

wintry sonnet
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cause this stuff's been happening alot lately

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and all it does is cause a shitstorm

ornate mantle
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But you donโ€™t matter @stuck copper

tough burrow
#

Yea, I actually discussed this with them recently

ornate mantle
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Intern does though.

tough burrow
#

They have plans and working on improving those massively

wintry sonnet
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I'm not even suggesting pick random people off discord to send them previews, but perhaps picking people from the discord staff like mods or gurus or sth

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either way, they need a second pair of eyes to review the material before it goes up

tough burrow
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gurus aren't staff, but I get what you mean

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(we don't even have any anymore entyLUL )

stuck copper
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I remember the Tirpitz event back then, when Intern-kun said that we will have a longer break, turn out that the "longer" means only one extra day

wintry sonnet
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point being, pick up some people you trust from the community

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who you know are not going to leak the stuff in advance

tough burrow
#

It was a week long tho, wasn't it?

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While other events just ran one after another

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And we getting longer breaks since

stuck copper
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from FW to Neptunia, it is 7 days, from Neptunia to Tirpitz, it is 8 days

wintry sonnet
#

I'd argue the longer breaks part considering we didnt even get any break between CE and WC in regards to construction entyLUL

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heck they even went out of their way to make hatsushimo a construction-exclusive

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1 week of not having to worry about limited stuff would've been nice

tough burrow
#

If you spent all your cubes to get literally 1 or 2 ships - that's personal problem warShrug

stuck copper
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and it is beginning to take toll on my mental health

tough burrow
#

And Hatsu prolly coming to perma at some point

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Actually, I think she is in perna on JP/CN?

wintry sonnet
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I mean that was obvious to begin with, since she became perma on JP, but the point was, they took a mini-event where you didnt have to construct at all

tough burrow
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If so - she 100% coming to perma here as well

vital edge
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I'd love a long enough break to regather all my lost cubes from these endless events

wintry sonnet
#

and just added in 1 ship that wasn't limited

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and made her a 7 day limited construct, right after we went off having 8 of them

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I was already annoyed with the CNY situation because I was hoping Spee mini event will be a week of breaktime from construction, but I accepted the inclusion cause ok, 8 new ships, rate ups, all that

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but then we get another mini event that was supposed to be a week break and lo and behold, more limited construction entyLUL

stuck copper
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well, I just don't care anymore

vital edge
#

I kinda gave up collecting these useless ships after I failed to get Chaser

stuck copper
#

they can do whatever they want, and I will try my best as much as I can

vital edge
#

I lose my streak from bad RNG

wintry sonnet
#

exactly

stuck copper
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I haven't got Hatsushimo after around 60 cubes right now

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she is even harder to get than Zuikaku

toxic scroll
#

Maybe not having Sirius is punishment for leaks

stuck copper
#

it is up to the Headquarter after all

wintry sonnet
#

granted, this is only an issue to collectioners, I'm not gonna pretend otherwise

stuck copper
#

they have been making some decisions that is rather erratic

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but yes, I will take the Lunar New Year as a very long break

wintry sonnet
#

but when you keep constantly being pushed back into limited stuff without some breathing room, you eventually end up burning out

tough burrow
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I was already annoyed with the CNY situation because I was hoping Spee mini event will be a week of breaktime from construction, but I accepted the inclusion cause ok, 8 new ships, rate ups, all that tbf I was as well, but Hatsu - who cares entyLUL

stuck copper
#

farming for Graf is easier than I thought

wintry sonnet
#

heck, even the skin situation is becoming ludicurous

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it was getting bad around christmas but at least they made the old xmas skins permanent

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we had 16+ limited skins in the last month span

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some of them for the same character one after another

stuck copper
#

Mullany's nips akashiSparkle

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i dont mind those. my issue is the constant need to farm an arbitrary amount of points running trivial nodes for a single limited ship that probably serves no purpose anyway. i'd like a break from that, please.

vital edge
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Mullany in general

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"Fletcher"

stuck copper
#

Mullany is a blessing

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And I am glad I had her

vital edge
stuck copper
#

but... I am beginning to feel weary of the game

#

the desire for catching up things is not good for me at all

wintry sonnet
#

tbh, light construction is taking a serious toll on me

#

I fucking hate light construction

vital edge
#

At this point, just relax and do what you can

wintry sonnet
#

and the last month that's all we keep doing

stuck copper
#

I don't know what to do anymore

vital edge
#

it's getting out of control for f2p players either way so don't push yourself

stuck copper
#

it's probably time to not give a crap and only focus on things you want, skipping anything else

#

I can't stop playing, even though trying hard isn't exactly what I want to

vital edge
#

Most of us don't have the dock space anyway

tough burrow
#

it's getting out of control for f2p players either way tbf - just the fact that f2p players even can consider having "full collection" is great by itself.

#

In most other games it's not an option from the start warShrug

vital edge
#

@tough burrow Avrora

stuck copper
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f2p should only focus on the "strongest" ships, like NoCaro, Washington, Tirpitz or such

#

everyone else can go to scrap yard

toxic scroll
#

You really can't consider avrora as anything

tough burrow
#

So if your biggest complaint - I don't have some useless ship like Hatsu and want full collection - that's pretty good

toxic scroll
#

Just because she was a closed beta reward

stuck copper
#

Mullany is a must

#

doesnt have to be the strongest, but i'm pretty sure most people don't love 200+ boats equally

vital edge
toxic scroll
#

And we still get her eventually

wintry sonnet
#

while that's certainly true restart, pacing is still important. If you outpace what people are willing or even able to do, you end up creating the feeling of scarcity

vital edge
#

I'm kinda waiting on whatever ship will break the meta next for our server

tough burrow
#

I know, but even like this - there're people who want to go even faster

#

You can't please everyone

vital edge
#

Otherwise, these limited constructions are sickening

tough burrow
#

that's why we banned this topic in feedback

toxic scroll
#

But also, go too long without something

#

You get people complaining about lack of content

#

You can't win lmao

stuck copper
#

for some reason, I got the feeling that the gacha for "meta-breaking" ships like Amagi is much more forgiving than collection-only one like Hatsushimo

wintry sonnet
#

Sure, but you can find a reasonable middle ground. Like for example not making a mini event that wasn't about construction spam to be about construction spam warShrug

#

regardless of how good the gacha in AL is, it's still gacha

#

it's still you throwing rsc you collect over weeks into what's minutes

tough burrow
#

As I already said - that's your choice

wintry sonnet
#

and relying on luck

tough burrow
#

Not like Hatsu any important to have at all

toxic scroll
#

If you're going for collecting every ship that's on you, you're gonna have less resources

wintry sonnet
#

sure, but if you want to aim for the collection, you can't really skip out on a 1.5% rate up

vital edge
#

Hatsu will haunt collectors though

wintry sonnet
#

cause it's either that now, or what, 0.5% or less in future?

vital edge
#

Much of the folk who even play these games play it for the joy of collecting

wintry sonnet
#

even less when they add more ships

tough burrow
#

Collectors shouldn't expect to complete the collection as F2P imo

#

That's dumb

toxic scroll
#

If you want to 100% collect

vital edge
#

It's fun to try

tough burrow
#

If they can - it's great

vital edge
#

up to a point

toxic scroll
#

You're basically expected to spend money

#

At some point

wintry sonnet
#

define f2p in that instance laffeyDrink

tough burrow
#

But you can't really complain about it

wintry sonnet
#

are we talking only spending on gacha, or skins and everything else too

toxic scroll
#

Shipa

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No skins

#

I think

tough burrow
#

in this context - gacha only

wintry sonnet
#

cause I'd argue you propably dont want to put emphasis on spending on gacha in the first place

stuck copper
#

ship first, skin later. skin can wait, ship can't

vital edge
#

I love Azur Lane's game design, but the management is going all over the place.

wintry sonnet
#

especially when your slogan is and I quote

#

"Creating a better gacha"

vital edge
#

Wasn't this game supposed to be casual?

toxic scroll
#

Again, it's still gacha

#

It's random

stuck copper
#

they literally said it was aimed at casuals, yes

vital edge
#

It was clearly stated in the interview recording

tough burrow
#

No, I'm talking about "I want literally all the ships for collection" specifically

stuck copper
#

for me, what I am aiming now is Aurora. and truckload of ships getting added on Light construction is blocking me from reaching her

wintry sonnet
#

but here's the problem tho

#

AL's big selling point is that you can get all the ships without paying for the gacha

vital edge
#

How is this supposed to be casual if we have a brick taped to the gas pedal all year long?

tough burrow
#

And you still can, it just won't be as easy

wintry sonnet
#

and the biggest focus for money is from the skin sales etc

#

if you keep spamming limited constructs over and over, you start creating the illusion that if you want to keep up getting all of them, you must throw your wallet at cubes

#

which defeats the purpose

tough burrow
#

Yea, I might've go in there too much, you're right

stuck copper
#

I gave up on trying to get Hatsushimo

vital edge
#

I gave up before starting

toxic scroll
#

The game allows you the chance to get every ship with rewards from just playing, yes

#

Is is guaranteed? No

#

Is it possible? Yea

vital edge
#

My cubes have not recovered from chasing Chaser.

#

400 -> 90

wintry sonnet
#

it becomes less possible when you go out of your way to create the sense of urgency

vital edge
#

Right now, I'm at 108

toxic scroll
#

The ships will return

#

Not many ships are a one time deal

stuck copper
#

200 on chaser, "here's another 1.5% drop" entyLUL

#

Wonder if ships like NoCaro or Washington would be in permanent pool?

vital edge
#

Nep ships are the only single time limited releases, right?

tough burrow
#

Think so?

wintry sonnet
#

granted, once we catch up to JP, this won't be an issue likely, since you wont have to do this whole spam inbetween events

#

but as it stands now, they should seriously consider slowing down on the construction additions, or at least introduce them in bigger bulks

#

over this "1-2 ships every 2 weeks"

toxic scroll
#

Did they pace the recent events correctly? Probably not

stuck copper
#

this month is a bit packed

toxic scroll
#

They probably made the wrong decision on rate ups too

wintry sonnet
#

I still think the 1.5% on shimo is bollocks

toxic scroll
#

They could've had a new build pool with higher rate ups

wintry sonnet
#

but I understand the reasoning

lament flower
#

Rate up more like give up

wintry sonnet
#

since she's a non-event ship

toxic scroll
#

Should've actually

tough burrow
#

Yea, they probably should've added Hatsu as part of another event

#

Like the earlier one with china ships

stuck copper
#

Lunar New Year was a nightmare, but I was lucky, cos I got all the ships after three days

wintry sonnet
#

I actually spoke to aki about it, since I wanted to ask if the shmo rate up was a bug

#

cause she was shown as elite in construct and had the same rate up as the elites from CNY

tough burrow
#

I think it's just Light is too crowded?

wintry sonnet
#

^

#

Light has the unfortunate thing of having almost no SSRs sharing a 7% pool and it all being sandy anyway

#

while the Elites are overcrowded

stuck copper
#

yes, they loaded truckload of ships into light, it will be cheaper cube-wise though

tough burrow
#

I think it'll be around the same actually with lower rates

wintry sonnet
#

I did suggest that they should propably consider doing something like "1 week of small rate up for the hardcore collectioners and then permanent addition after that"

#

that way, collectioners can try for a higher chance

#

while everyone else can just take their time with daily rolls

#

it'd relieve some of the urgency

tough burrow
#

Well, they did say they consider (read almost certainly will) add her to perma at later date

stuck copper
#

ships like Atago or PoW were added into permanent pool, so I think what you said might be a possibility

#

eventually, ships like NoCaro, Tirpitz might join

wintry sonnet
#

well that's for certain, given the trend that we'll eventually see the current event ships permanent and propably enjoying their rate up during reruns

lusty drift
#

ngl I think they need to lower the chance of getting Sandy and Belfast

stuck copper
#

I would mind Belfast. I like her.

lusty drift
#

It's not even an achievement to get them, it's just an "Oh another one" moment.

wintry sonnet
#

What I meant Restart, is doing the rate up before permanent transition

#

instead of this whole "She'll be back but she might be back in a week or a year, lolidno"

#

uncertainty is a huge issue when dealing with availability

#

the more uncertain something is, the more frustrated people get

#

see, current patch notes and sirius situation warShrug

lusty drift
#

Elaborate

#

What's going on with Sirius?

wintry sonnet
#

Sirius is missing in the patch notes even tho the bug leaked her icon for the event

stuck copper
#

Maybe Sirius won't be coming to next event?

lusty drift
#

Ah

#

No, she is.

#

Or should be.

wintry sonnet
#

thing is, the patch notes are in a very weird situation

#

cause they're missing sirius while grenville's in it, who was a rerun ship

#

but it also misses matchless

#

a ship that WAS in the og run

#

so nobody knows if it's just typos or what the fuck exactly

stuck copper
#

if she was, an amendment should be announced right now

wintry sonnet
#

and then there was this bug situation where people got the event icon prematurely

#

and sirius was on it

stuck copper
#

typo error will be corrected nearly instantly

#

but as for now, nothing was announced, so...

wintry sonnet
#

I still want to believe this is just a case of bad communication

#

since you know, it's happened before laffeyDrink

stuck copper
#

Bad communication is a thing, always a thing, especially from CN to JP/KR/EN

#

overworked from pushing too many events AkagiLul

#

I worked as CC for Wargaming, I know some instances regarding miscommunication

#

for example, we Asia CCs didn't get 200 lootboxes, those which NA and EU ones got

wintry sonnet
#

they need to step up their social media accuracy either way

#

while they're hella active on discord, it's just like 12-13k people here which would get eventual clarifications

#

but twitter alone is like 73k+

#

so that's only 20% people getting the full story

#

and that's ignoring people who dont follow them

tough burrow
#

As I said - working on it. Don't know if I can post screenshots, but prolly shouldn't just in case warShrug

wintry sonnet
#

not to menton facebook

toxic scroll
#

Don't do it

wintry sonnet
#

yea, keep it under wraps for now laffeyDrink

toxic scroll
#

Not worth any possible punishment

wintry sonnet
#

especially after the last time

#

when some rando was posting leaked screenshots on general

tough burrow
#

It's not punishment but more like be shitty to Intern, who dislikes DMs being public laffeyDrink

#

Which I get

wintry sonnet
#

yeah, best to ask him in advance first or not talk about it at all

#

in general, unless it's something that's safely considered ok for public knowledge, it should be kept silent

tough burrow
#

I just won't, it's not that interesting anyway. Just know they working on patch notes

toxic scroll
#

I mean there's a reason Dms are private

#

It'll get fixed

#

I'm not concerned

#

Club was lit earlier though

#

Most active I've seen it in a long time

stuck copper
#

I intended to create a fuss back then when Divergent Colors was announced

#

But then I retracted

tough burrow
#

Divergent Colors

wintry sonnet
#

Opposite Chessboard

stuck copper
#

Divergent Color Board best event

#

Washington never