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@stuck copper me liek that smile
wonder if I can actually replace my cleve/hele in my pvp team with the new maidos after I max em
not like clevelena actually fit in my team
the timings are always off yet I still use em

The new maids are awesome

that rabi ribi emote
go away synd
keke bunny will eat ur face
nice
now if only these poor enemies in sp3 could ever get time to send some aircraft
these poor maidos could proc
That's a cute smile indeed

another ex-kancolle doujin artist who moved to AL
so many refugees
interesting how we all end up here one way or another
I didnt end up here from can collection

just got these 2 to friendly too 
took a while from the other 2
is there a list of all ex kancolle artists that moved to al lol
I think the issue is Kancolle started a good idea
But they didn't expand on it
Just left it to grow stale
So people naturally just lost interest
it's less that the idea grew stale and more that they decided to double down on the things people didnt enjoy to begin with, like over reliance on RNG to dictate the gameplay
Well by growing stale I mean
doesn't help that they have the Arcade version now aka what everyone would rather play
They didn't try to improve the game to be better
They left it to basically rot
Rather than actually make it better
I mean people even mentioned how sometimes it was months before updates
hence my remark at how all of us refugees from KC end up here in AL 
Pretty much
In our case
It's the opposite end
KC updates took forever
Here they're throwing them left and right that people can't keep up

I mean, its the EN localization and most people are horny for catching up so
it's not even that the updates took forever, it's more that as they kept dumping down more and more RNG on top of RNG, it took the system where you basically spend 3 months farming for resources for a 2-3 week event and strained it to the point where you end up bottoming out on your 3 month stockpile in a matter of days
I see people keep asking for stuff then Im here like enjoying what we got 
all because you failed 1 of the 99 dice rolls required
so it's not surprising alot of us are moving to AL, the gameplay doesnt put as much emphasis on dice rolling
You know what makes it really dumb though Aquan
except construction 
"How one may cry during KC, but not during AL"
Funny cause I cried during amagi event
Also why would I want to spend months and months and months
Getting a bote
Only to possibly get destroyed permanently
its ok they said that before amagi event was a thing
That's not a good system

That's a rip off
There's another issue though
the permadeath mechanic does make you value your ships alot more
That's the other issue
You end up valuing them too much
That you don't want to send them out incase you lose them
I mean, if you throw lvl 1 ships into a high level map in AL< it's like "oh, they got rekt, welp... 10 morale loss, lel"
Because that's a lot of money just gone down the drain
Thats cancer
see, here's the thing
it's not the permadeath mechanci that I have a problem with
it's the fact that because they decided to double down on RNG, it's becoming more and more impossible to actually achieve a win
without having to redo the entire sortie 178151 times
No but when a person puts a mechanic like that into a game that charges you for the thing that can die it says a lot about the person making the game
but it doesnt charge you tho 
For getting limited botes?
in fact outside of buying ship slots and rings there's literally no reason to spend money
only if you go out of your way to put them at risk
There shouldn't even be a risk
You're playing a game
Especially when they're limited content
Also just an fyi
Some people lost botes even with the new mechanic they had added in
So it's not fool proof
again, unless you go out of your way, you cannot sink your ships
You have to deliberately continue a sortie once they're heavily damaged to even put them in that situation
But people actually didn't do that which is what I'm saying
Bugs exist
I mean people literally cried about that fact
There hasn't been an instance of someone loosing a ship due to a bug in 5 years at least
Cause no one has been playing for the past 5 years 

now you're just hating for the sake of hating 
I'm not hating lol
I don't hate KC at all
Being objective about how a game is designed =/= hate
being objective about preference though 

the way I see it AL and KC both have goods and bads, some are objective, some are a matter of preference
perma death is definitly the latter
With all the mobages ive played, permadeath just blows my mind. How could kancolle ever hope to get new players in this day and age ._. I certainly am not a masochist 
Perma death is fine when you don't lose anything money related
Or limited to specific events and stuff
Again, you dont have to spend money, like ever
why is this being discussed here in such depth?
It's not about actually losing money
cuz this is now a can collection chat 
It's the principal of losing it
Well, it had a semblance of comparing to AL, but then the tangent grew

your jintsuu is trash
speaking of AL boats
I'm here just like
if sirens have siren kaga im totally defecting
hey synd, did you see the new tweet
why not both
both
uh
its a ship synd prob doesnt care bout
Because it will take a while to get both running from scratch
and is gonna be like

the loli cat?
specifically the limited for a week part
today is a good day

my reaction was pretty much
If northern union ever expands, im in 100%
its ok its just a rare ship
someone give me spee
so i have stuff to burn books with again

go farm SP3
No
you're not spending oil on Inazuma anyway cause you haven't moved that number for 3 days now 
go spend it on SP3 and get your spee, lazy fk
next time just donate the cubes to me 
hrm
you'll waste them either way, but at least I'll use them for something
i realized at some point WC is a thing
guess ill 
if AL ever gave me this siren kaga as a skin
ill totally fork over 20 bucks for that skin alone

didnt get to do as much runs as I wanted today 
all them uni shit sucked my life out
my coins are taking forever to go back up ๐ฆ
will be at least 3-4 days before I can finish chinaboat retros
gotta wait for my dorm to take em to 85 before i can retro
since i goofed up

popped about 10k gold just on limit breaks tho
both
mix em up
my fleets are usually made up of stuff from all over the world 
synd pretty much 99% ijn 
my fleet 1 yea
Shud spent it by sending it to me
Ofc
I wonder how many cubes are gonna be left by the time she comes
Dont remind me
Lol

If ryuujou is the next mini event at least shes grindable
Same cant be said for hatsushimo smh
wish I could get more than like 5 purple bulins a week 
Rip
34 runs so far
41 runs here 

almost done then slac time 
im only at 26 
1 i guess
damn
I was leaning towards 2

well giving my maids a break from class and giving these 2 some exp
prob just till 5 then back to maidos or sth
@stuck copper just realised Massa is voiced by Megumin 
explosion memes will intensify when she's maxed out on all skills and weaponry
like Girl B from Jojo

I mean she also voices Mashu in FGO but I refuse to acknowledge anyone other than Taneda Risa
I always found it funny how alot of the VAs just seem completely ominous and present in everything
and yet they still manage to pull off voices that you'd never be able to consider
that hardly even sounds like Megumin and yet this is the same VA
Ikr
It's really cool
And spooky
I mean she did Emilia out of Re:Zero too
Again sounds nothing like
Hinahoho's cousin out of Magi
tfw Vestal and Terror are the same VA too 
Yup Massa = Mont
I keep forgetting you can listen to their voice lines on wiki
now that I listened to some more massa lines and did a side by side
I'm starting to notice the similarities
she sounds a bit like a disiniterested megumin 
Lol
those va are so skilled
must be hella tough to voice several characters within the same project
and still make them sound differently enough
I didnt know Clevedad voiced another ship
now you do
she voices cleve, erebus and columbia
lol
found Yuubari lines on youtube
her voice pitch is almost exactly like Tsukiko in Hentai Ouji 
I mean here's one you won't expect
Did you know that Laharl from disgaea
Voices Essex
It wouldn't be the first time a girl voices a guy in japanese or vice versa 
Voicing a guy is one thing
But laharl screams
A lot
Or rather laughs
To the point you'd think
"No"
to be fair, I feel like a girl voicing a guy in japanese is an easier time than a guy voicing a girl
something about the voice modulation
That's accurate
oh, Warspite's retrofit stuff's on wiki already
yeah, it's kinda there
shame they didnt tweak her marksman to prioritise shipgirls
doesnt really make her more PVE friendly
If all of that barrage's shell hit the target, fighting WS retro is gonna be cancer
(Unless it has super low damage)
It replaces her OG barrage
Which mind you
Hits super hard
So this is just gonna be an instant explosion of something most likely
just dodge 
assuming it actually lands 
Yeah, I mean if that makes 2 shells into like 4 or even more.... It might just be enough for a 75% or 1 hit XD
which pretty much means she's still mostly a PVP ship
Especially if they're packing white shells
You're gonna be deleting something off the map
Instantly
Well, would that mean the backline in JP would become Amagi, Nagato and WS kai? Just to hyper massacre shit..
I suppose on the + side, with that 130% dmg buff on first barrage she'll be more adept at killing side-placed Entys 
PvP wise Spark
You'd just move her to nuke either naga or amagi
Depending on their composition positioning
She is though one of the biggest counters to enty hands down
Since it triggers 10 seconds in
I'd be more happy if that new barrage works like Amagi, but all ammos just go towards the target...
I mean the problem with that barrage to begin with is that it targets the furthermost enemy
I suppose it's fair though
well, I suppose she's a bit better on the dmg
Sandy Kai mostly got a buff for her PvE
still, wish they at least made the skill prioritise shipgirls like how some skills do
Yeah that would have been a nice change
that alone would be a huge thing
AR kai when?
Vestal Kai would make me happy.
Akashi Kai would cost a lot of gems 
and your soul
Akaishi would cost gems
That's already a big plus in a whale's book
Modernization node: 5 of any SR bp, 5000 coins, a duplicate or purin, 200 gems
Reward: +500 HP, +30 AA, a 20% discount on your next skin purchase

It would be a good sales pitch
what?
i've missed a lot like i always do
but the last few things make no sense to me lmao

No kidding.
That would be such a 180 degree turn to the greatness that is our lord devs
Hey, at least you can convert those SR bp's into lowkey L2D discounts with enough Akashi kais
make people work for their discounts xD
What
her skins is honestly probably my favorite.
Of all the skins that have come out so far.
Oh
Like, i love Fusous.
I love Belfasts, Duetschlands, and Belfasps.
But damn.
Despite not being L2D this Helena skin is off the charts.
I mean, it's an added feature that is well deserving of its price.
it's why I turn it off all the time
Yeah, that L2D actually felt stiff as far as previews go
L2D isn't neccesary to make a skin good.
but when a ship has it, I feel liek it's a waste to not get the most out of it.
If the moving model feels flat despite being Live2D, it bothers me greatly
like hands and arms moving in a 2D manner
I don't fault people who like it. It's really just my own problem.
I have seen some Live2D that really caught my eye a few times in the past
I've yet to see a L2D skin I haven't fawned over.
But, that doesn't mean I want to buy them all.
A few cases where depth view is added in to make it feel like it goes beyond a flat animation
Like, I've only really wanted like 5 L2D to date.
I've only wanted 2 till today and it's in another game altogether

Not even all lvl 100 too
LOL.

Oh fuck I think I know Pookie.
using PvP for anything but XP farming
Plebs
cries in getting destroyed by enterprise on every team above 10k strength
used to do it for exp time ago
now i just dont even bother with that
my mindset while doing pvp rn is like "fuck it im just throwing some stronk shit to beat others' copy pasta teams and just bedone with it"
on a sidenote, didnt notice i pretty much went through half of this yesterday
expected less
time to finish up
Okay. So as far as I can tell.
My top favorite skins.
Helena, Ping/Ning Rabbit Skins, and Fusou

Im as indecisive as ever and dont have a top favourite skin
but also I barely like much skins so pretty much any I pick are my favourites

spending 30 secondso n this everyday is a chore
lol
mhm


@stuck copper

Suddenly, I feel less special.


so apparently getting a perfect on one of amazons tests only gets me 2 gold BTD prints

I prob shoudnt have scrapped my last curlew dupe but guess I'll just have to cover it up with bulins
need a bunch fast 
8 yats chaser maidos and 1 ning hai which can wait a bit and then 4 spee
thankfully 4 new bulins in like 2-3 days
cuz weekly reset
For all those extra boxes

I think i might give up getting mullany lol
Yush
I just need to limit break lusty 1 more time
And 1 more after for warspooder
Total death flag



i'll pervert her corrections
Im literally using lusty only in 6-2 hm
6 boss fights
then she rests till the next day
gonna get there in notime

I only had one for a lonk time
then suddenly got 2 in a week
the second one is still 0

I need 2 more
I think I have like 5-6 ish
Lol


I started at like game's second week
Well I only knew about it in passing at that point
I saw some nep fanatics talking bout it in a server
was kinda looking for a phone game that could interest me
so I kinda decided I'd try it out 
Kek
wonder when was the last time I got a t3 cruiser bp from 6-2


I've got like 295238965235 Londons from sp3
London spook
Yeah got a craaaaaaap ton of Londons and Exeters
got yat and chaser's first skills to 5, back to the maidos till i get spee later
@stuck copperi wanna max chaser's antisub skill just for the memes 


You are now
Still ded

Dead as a sunked bote

yey sp3 finally dropped another porkland
now I can get rid of the other dupe from yesterday
and mlb her just cuz I have to ๐ฎ
45
hmm shoulda popped an 8 hour class instead of 4 
kinda was expecting to get her till now but did slight miscalculations 
hmm think I'll bring graf's skill to 7 which is where deutsch's is then level their skills together to 10
then curlewd and cura's
and then prob work a bit on chinalolis or sth 
Lol
Ikr

For me it's no yellow
You have done a good thing
someday if I randomly come upon 1k$

not like I have any more gems but even if I did I really couldnt afford more rings
even the pack I bought month ago was just on a random impulse 
she got her skin so she should be happy 

next big spending will be Vday?
oath all your ships on vday 
Oath bullin
oath the ship you dislike most 
you mean oath enty? 
I said "you", talkin to general 
not "I'll oath the ship I dislike most" 
also I cant oath a ship I scrapped
tbh I dont even dislike enty
for that matter, I dont even dislike any ship in general
There are some ships I "dislike" in regards to what they represent
didnt say you do 
I know, I'm just pointing it out 
I dont mind Enty based on her personality, I think she's nice personality-wise
same for laffey
I just hate this idea that everyone keeps pushign them as those "top tier" awesome characters
2 more for me
19 more here
I've just been running it non stop
Cause 6 man fleet
Want to burn oil
Need that level 70

I keep taking breaks because of urgent commissions 
read some of enty's lines and she never came off as anything I'd like 
and thats being unbiased of my general dislike of her due to various reasons 
Once I get 70 I'll run dailies
I kinda like enty personality-wise, she's has a very nice attitude
she's basically "I accept war and I participate in it and do my best, but I dont enjoy it, it's just a means to an end"
prob only characters that kinda act 'normal' and not chuuni or edgy n stuff that I like are the new maidos
I just hate how everyone seems to cream their pants about how good she is because of lucky e 
and how basically every PVP battle has to have Enty in it
so to me it's not even that I hate enty, it's more that she' too overrated to me
same for laffey
my problem is that her skill aint even anything interesting lol
"ok I do more damage and dodge some stuff bye"
it's like people cant shut up about laffey ever
"Laffey best starter, laffey this laffey that laffey laffey laffey laffey laffey"
same for me but I like overexaggerating my negative feelings 
I thought people said aya best starter
chat still being flooded with sandy builds 
if that was the case I'd propably not be very fond of aya 
my non existent heart has yet to waver from my starter pick 
I suppose you could consider this a borderline hipster behavior
I tend to be in opposition of the "popular pick"
same
and mostly it just comes naturally for me
like in online games n stuff I see something, I like it, and then another thing, I dislike, then after I get a feel for the game I join communities and turns out the thing I like is frowned upon while the thing I dislike is like
99% of people's choice

it's not even that I dislike the popular thing, I just like seeing things that are different 
I find myself screenshotting every pvp fleet that's not a copy-paste
because it's a feeling of freshness
have you screened mine yet 
I did fight you before actually
dam
well, I was in a hurry doing pv
but then I noticed Rei Ryghts
and I was like awww
lol
I would've screenshotted that if I notice dbefore
I think
I may have fought you before
I aint seen you in my list yet but someone in a private group sent a pic of your fleet and said its an autist's fleet

nani
Lol
wouldn't autism fleet be the 1:1 meta fleet
"CANT DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN TOP META REEEEEEEE"
I mean I will be doing not meta once my HMS is running
Pretty sure it's because of the names.
My understanding of autism is that if you change anything even in the littlest bit
it causes lots of REEEEEE
hms ded meta 
so it'd make more sense if it was a copy-paste meta fleet with like 1 ship difference
well someone else did call a name out
I dont get how a waifu fleet = autism 
No but the HMS I'm running is definitely not gonna be meta
i am autistic, and even i dont understand what's wrong with that fleet lol
but maybe that just proves it?
probably overthinking it
I think the autism in that comment means = LOL WHAT AN IDIOT HE CANT DO A PROPER PVP TRIHARD DEFENSE FLEET

because I clearly care about that
^
At all
Whenevfer I look up the top 10 people
The only reason normally
half of them have rando defense fleet
aquan dont ignore the fact that it most likely was cuz of the names as that person above who's name I already forgot mentioned
as for the why idk why
I mean, even then, I dont get what's autistic about the names 
cringy, fair
autistic, no
The Internet loves to use 'autistic' in place of 'cringe'
1 hour to do 8 sp3 runs so I can send spee on next wave of academy classes
if someone accused my ship naming of being cringy I'd propably agree with them
for starters, it's not even sorted properly





tbh I'll take cringy naming anytime of day
over yet another "Lusty/Lucky E/SoDak" naming
wow, that must've taken you a year to come up with 
My Enty
I fought that guy before
I did it because it's an anagram

I tend to give them real names
Usually as much of the original name as possible
This I can respect
Or
no naming, but it's a redhead fleet
I give em trash names then regret it then turn custom names off 
Based on the city
I wanna die everytime I see my monitor's names now
still got like 2.5 weeks before I can change

1 more run
This guy caught my attention if only because I still dont get where the hell did Charlie55 come from

@cosmic pier remember when Seikijin wasn't a tryhard? 
That's.. not a tryhard fleet.
my point exactly
lel

mfw auto team mostly A'ing sp3 and I dont even care
not like it got an special ship drop 
aurora has lvl 10 skill now
RIP CL's



Both

no
there's a reason i left you all those years ago
she wants to crush me now
i dunno where to take and level these new ships now 
It's a really long grind for the full 15 bps though
I don't think I can do it in 7 days, given how much patience I have for SP3
Well yeah that's true
Graf Spee, more like Graf Sp3
do sp3 100 more times to get em to 100 kappa
R spees skins in the store permanent or limited
Spee skins are perma @lament flower
It's why I have avoided buying them right now
Wallet-Kun
school skin superior 
guess ill just passive level yeetsen in dorm for a while and focus spee or sth
already got Deutsch maxed cept for ze skill
Not bad at all
so fuckin many ships to decide between levellin 
and the list only ever increases lel
Yeah lol
That's why I've prioritized factions
So I can at least somewhat stay on track
Rip
Keep ruffling
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Lol nice
@ripe mantle you get both or just the sweater
Im liking spee 
deutsch still better tho
Chang Chun is my treasure. 
Chang chun is the reason i have no cubes left


At least now i can start saving for vicy
wanna do some more runs somewhere but bit burnt out after rushing spee 
Barring another dumb limited build
got 455 cubes to drain for sheffield
I wish i had that many left
there's no line i like for dutch
gotta wait till ping hits 85 then do same for ning then retro em then wait till i 100 em with yatsen next year 
just cuz your tastes are trash and you dont like her doesnt mean she's not likeable 
she's not likeable tho. all she talks about is turning you into a pet and its kinda annoying
some people like that stuff yno

guess I'll just go sleep
level spee a bit tomorrow
then prob pop her in a team with maidos and level em all same time somewhere
then back to jints farm or some shit
Lvl her in sp3
except sp3 is worthless after getting her
not like I ever rank shit up but dunno where'd I place the new maidos
yes and mag torps are worthless
prob together at #2nd spot, second to sheffield, right before belfast
then again I gotta get sheff first
so at the moment they grab top maido spot in mah heart 
putting lolis in the dorm I see
aint really even looked at kimber and mulla
Rip
daughterus
bah my laptop's keyboard cover thingie hurting my fingers a bit

more than 5 dorm slots hwen
spee's headpat line aint got a voiceline



























