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Was totally worth
bought a single ironblood box, got quint mag torp 
Pretty good
Would have been better if it was quad though
i'm okay with either
Quad's generally better just because less dispersion and all that
one deals more damage, the other comes out faster. not that big a deal
Unless it's 6* quint
Which is just generally better overall
But yeah main reason quad is better
Is just due to the dispersion
Spreads out a lot less
Meaning more likely to hit something
Especially in auto where mag are best
not sure
i guess if you have five, you can afford to miss with one haha
Yeah that's the main reason

4 though tends to be better than 5 unless 6* then that's better as a whole
at this point, i dont have enough mag torps. i cant afford to be picky. they're all good, as long as they're golden.
Yeah
I don't have many myself
But I do have 10 quint torps
Or was it 11
Not sure
Too many manual torps
But yeah I max out port affection and level
Just need to do it for indy now
As those 2 are the first units I really used
Btw
I do want to do an NO comp at some point
this is what i have right now

kinda weird. i got more mag torps in a month than quint torps in 4 months.
Yeah that tends to happen
i have portland maxed. maybe i should max out indy as well, but not now.
i got both of them very early.
people were like "you should totally invest in portland. she's great once she gets her kai". 5 months later, no kai in sight.
Yeah, personally I just loved both
And maxed them early
Also I fully expect to see Indy Kai eventually
Since she was actually retrofitted irl at one point
indy kai would be great since shes on of my favorite cas
Yeah and would actually be able to work with Port
I welcome more chocolate retros
Not to mention the fact most sister ships still get retrofits even if later
Like York did
i snag up every ironblood box i see. had some stockpiled before chessboard.
To finish my eventual backline weapons I literally at this point
Need just 1 more plane
but I still don't know who my favorite ca is
its either taco, eugen or portland rip
I got my 3rd golden belfap gun today but idk who I should give it to :/
time to open hope it is a good one
BBs
so amagi gets it!
arrgh got a zero
But yeah I just need that last barracuda for essex
Belchan 
some BBs can use CL guns. belfast gun is a good choice, but it's not the only one.
my belfast and leander kai have one
hyuuga has a +8 purple and thats enough (and I will swap her out got amagi soontm anyways)
come to think of it, there's not a single dark skin retrofit 
the closest we ever got was Le Mars and she's just tanned

That's actually true
retrofitting belchan turns her into belfast. it's the ultimate troll.

But yeah Sara / Essex / Enty or even Lex if I'm bored
3 ironblood boxes from urgent ops. all bad though.
lol on jp my hms fleet was belfast, belchan and edin for a while
I really want Essex

well...
worst case, we'll have to wait until EN anniversary.
Yar
Leveling her is gonna be as bad as amagi lol though
3 skills
Also AE is hilarious to watch
1,1,1,1,1,1

what's that ship? 
Yeah she is indeed
Waifu and strong
What more could one ask for
It's why I want another Barracuda
For my CV fleet
I'd use her with Enty + Sara
oh that would make sense, too
Sara retrofit is gonna be so crazy
her gun is quite inaccurate tho
Don't forget that sara gives 15% frontline damage too
while long island would pretty much always give your 2 big shots +15% air power from her skill
and her air strikes will always hit before your other 2 CV ones
sure retro sara's stats are bonkers
The only thing about long
Is that hp wise
She's squishy
Don't forget
Sara is a double dive too
well if you're afraid about your Main fleet squishiness you should not play more than 1 CV /CVL in there 
Well it's more that Essex needs 3 CV
To even function
If you want her benefit to be at it's best
well pretty sure she would fare well with only her and Enty anyways
she would still get 10% boost to Air and AA
Not to say she can't lol but like
The reason the idea works is because you're aiming to just drop a fuck ton of bombs
And splatter anything and everything
XD
Which Sara has no issues doing
basic USA style
Lol yeah
Cause another reason
For 3 carriers
Is because you want to nuke other planes
"When own aircraft shoots down an enemy aircraft: increase own Air Power by 1.0% (3.0%). Effect can be stacked up to 5 times."
Yes I know that
well she cares up to a certain point
So having 3 though increases her power fully
nah
Giving her the most potential to do so
she is too cute ><
as most of plane fights are close to ship AA guns, too
But anyway the reason for 3 is because it naturally buffs her Aviation / AA
Meaning she becomes a monster
ahhh her l2d skin has a fireworks animation
it would give her 449 instead of 430 Air
Don't forget something
not to say that is little
You're still gonna be using steam catapults and stuff
but it's less than 1/5th of a catpult
Not to mention
it all adds up but you still miss protection and barrages from the potential BB in the backline
"When Essex launches an airstrike: launch an additional TBF Avenger squadron that inflicts flood damage on hit. "
This is a fighter if I recall
Also she does more damage to BB's
is a torp bomber
Is it?
Ah yeah so it is
does the event HM work the same with threat level?
nope

you're the 3rd person with the same question today
everyone hope in the easy Akagi farm

Let's just say

we'll see them in a 6 months time 
so 
Mine atm
Sandy is 99 now though
Yes
Me big poopoo head
Me use Sandy to fight CV

Btw I'm using Sandy so much to the point I already have all mats for her retrofit
"Now we wait"

20 BPs is steep
For 1 retro defo


Still got more gear to farm though

Honestly though St Lou place
I could put just about any bote there
And the comp would still work
just throw her away
Lol

yeah Mont will awesome to replace sandy
need another blue hair gunboat :x
There isn't any sadly
Funny thing is if I use Eld
I can still do "Egyptian Gods" colour wise
I can do american colours if I use mont

time to start levelling other ships... amagi is lv99
eld is a bitch
Mont + St lewd + Honolewd?
This is why Eld is the crux of all evil
Even still though
She turns any "instant win"
Into a
"Let's see how long you can last"
she is my cute protection charm against Owarida... nai
10 secs of basically
"Go fuck yourself.png"
As you cry because airstrikes all missed

Followed by intense rage

@stuck copper my pow can get a flat 700 (well, prob rounded up to 701) fp now thans to bit of increase from oath

so useful 
opposing eldridge never give me any problems though
How much does her shots fire for?
just gotta run fox fleet now to blow up eldridge before she can act

Tbf
IJN is the solution to 99% of buffs in pvp
Since most don't trigger till 20 / 30
idk aint tried yet
I'm curious as to how hard she hits
Well SoDak says
I'll check out I guess
sodak just kinda... deletes things
"Screw damage formula, double damage"
Kind of thing
But the downside to it
SoDak does rely on a 30% chance for it
guess I'll see if I can assemble a somewhat cheap USS fleet for her or sth
who'd I taste the damage on tho
9-4 boss? 
or a stationary one like 8-4
Well the first shot is usually gonna land if aimed
Well yeah but that applies regardless
Tbf though
As long as you compare them both
You'll have a good idea regardless of level difference
@sand robin Tbf btw I wouldn't mind using columbia when we get her instead either

"Reduces the damage taken by the Flagship by 15% (25%)."
nothing
save me

I whaled but its not enough



Can do
I mean I renamed Port to Rose
Still wonder if I should have called her Rosy
now i understand that 360 cubes graf dude
How many SSR have you had thus far?
You've had 0 throughout those 300?


I needa farm some medals before today ends 
Oof
random takao belfast
19 to be precise
I corrected myself
Honestly I was kind of like that till around 170 cubes
2 rolls per cube?
I name my foxes


no takeback


I'm gonna roll again
Nah that would be Dry Roasted



Jesus
bought the 30$ pack
the random skin I got was shit
tanikaze
I mean
who actually USE that
People who like jail

i regret spending 900 gems on rolls. could have bought a nice skin with that.

roll in 3s or 5s if you are missing amagi only
getting trapped in gacha hell is the worst. what's the chance of getting her at least once in 150 rolls? 95%?
i've been there twice. hope you get her soon.
I wonder how good it is when the Azur Lane devs make a padoru skin for Renown... will you all buy it? :3
no
very no
why not? = =+
cuz I dont got money 
spinning l2d padoru renown skin for 1080 gems? ahahaha. no.
What's the chance to pull her Cal?
well, the chance is always the same, but on average, you should get at least one the more you roll
i just used this calculator here: https://sites.google.com/view/azur-lane-general/construction?authuser=0
here come another rolllllllllllllllll

all the best
Toot
no lul
I think the issue that's being done wrong with this calculations
guaranteed gacha? here , have a duplicate
Is that they aren't accounting for the moment you pull an SSR
Which resets the probability
If it's counting it on an SSR basis and not on a actual "get this unit" basis
yeah.
it doesnt matter what it says, you always have the same chance of getting what you want.
Yeah the chance overall is just higher because at some point
It will happen unless you're the most unluckiest person in the world
Lol
so far at 295~
like...daily or ?
overall in my rolls for aurora
akashi > sandy 
i use it mostly to set somewhat realistic expectations, and to cope with rng, which isn't exactly something humans are good at.
of this fucking game
my expectations: I'll roll as many as I can I'll either get the ship or not
well, the misleading assumption with RNG is that if you do a 100 rolls you'll get everything at least once

since there aren't 100 ships in light construct
meanwhile friend of mine calculated and was like "I'll get atleast 1 wash about 300 cubes" or sth
then was despairing till he got her at 470
lul

where the assumption flops is that the 2% merely means 100 rolls should average at 2 amagis for example, but it doesnt have to be your 100 rolls 
Btw thanks for linking that site guys
I
I appreciate it
it could be your 98 rolls and 2 rolls of other people who'll net amagi
on average, he likely would have gotten one.

but that's assuming you'll end up with average results, which is not necessarily the case.
Lol
yo evil
Basically the point is that by probability it should but again
Rei
Nothing is absolute
hm?
nice
seriously tho, there need to be periodical rate ups for non-limited ships
same tho
So why the site
well
i find it no different from funerals. it's just people dealing with stuff they have no control over.
I can agree with that Tent
I mean like the more botes that get added
The harder it gets
And why are people doing virtual rolling
there would be later random ships in heavy and special
What you get is not a representation of what you will receive in game
No matter how many times you roll or what data you receive
with 2 cubes apiece
And it will only make you madder
I'm just going to point out though

That rng applies to normal rng
But the thing is
Games don't have a true rng system
Never have been
there is one I can think of that has true rng 
by nature, rng is unreliable. of course the same applies to calcs.
it's kind of the point.
Does it have a name Aquan?
it goes by many names, canned coal is one of them
Mm
friend of mine keeps connecting rng with effort being like "I put so much effort but get screwed" like rng cares bout effort 
lmao
you can literally fail the very first map with a lvl 99 ship
And all those who just auto
"The best thing you can get from a deterministic pseudo-random number generator is a stream of numbers that has a very long cycle (non-repeating is impossible unless your RNG device has unlimited storage) which, for the length of the cycle, produces a stream numbers that meets all the other properties of a random sequence (a uniform distribution of values being the most interesting one)."
This is why a true rng simulator is impossible
Has it's impossible to have unlimited storage for every possible outcome
you have to press the button extra hard for better results.
construction's all about skills 
"Because You need to write code to generates the random numbers and Code is NOT random. (It's deterministic)"
gotta time the button press and land on the exact pixel
It's just how it is really
Lol
rng ftw
I have a very simple definition of Pseudo Random:
Too many unknown variables to predict.
I also have a simple definition of True Random:
Infinite unknown variables
buying the whole game with everything available right from the get go?

Yeah
How dare you suggest they actually give you what you pay for
Such blasphemy
This is heresy
laughs in ea,bethesda, activation, blizzard and bandai

Yes, what monsters do that
why would you sell the whole game rigth away and make just some money, when you can gate it, put it in boxes and make ALL the money
including money that doesnt exist yet
laughs in negative amount in bank account
Lol
brb guys, gotta buy some lootboxes, I'm not feeling accomplished enough

my sense of pride is diminishing

also I know I was supposed to affection farm the new ships

but I realised ping and ning are close to 100

and since it's an IJN event and they benefit from dmg reduction
But the entire story mode is an ijn event 
👀
"peak"
permitted you to peak
uh huh
lul



looks like translator-kun had a freudian slip
premature peaking
i don't know, QE just looks weird to me.
y'all tryhards
i just want to get this over with. not gonna bother getting more points once i'm done with the shop.
work now, rest later.
I'm down to 1k oil, still got the shop oil tho
The sweetest oath line?
I'm kinda not sure how are you meant to get to 100k without whaling for oil, unless you stockpiled shitton beforehand 
As in heart warming?
just farm b1 kappa
If so, Tirpitz
Helena is too cute
Skin lines
If you want non-skin lines, here's one
Making someone not feel lonely anymore is a good feeling
Giving kawakaze something to believe in is good too
So that one
typical cat
Then we have sheffield
evil go away with the non en ships


thats her normal line btw
doesnt get a new one on skin
and ere expressing her love in her own way 
Hyuuga is good too
norcal sounds like work. just netflix and chill.
slice*
Please get these lines fixed
we're talking about heartwarming love/oath lines now tho 
Don’t leave them as is
you're the one making this topic weird now 
i'd be mad too if i were her


Hmm
sorry I got tired of you talking about lewding kids 
huh
No worries
dafuq
I can see where were going. Lets talk about whats to come with the new u.i
I dont know much about the new ui actually, other than the looks 
is there any new functionality?
Believe so
can you finally sort ships by their morale when putting them in 2nd floor? 
Maybe
it's so annoying having to put them in and wait through the loading every time I wanna make sure everyone's at 150
Easier to swap out I believe before deploying to battle
is the UI in JP already?
One thing I definitly do like is that you can now showcase the actual cg
and not just the chibi
for the skins
that's a big plus. just rewatching the video.
but actually paying attention this time.
that's about the one thing I got from the video, everything else is hard to tell cause it's all moonrunes and looks clustered 
i don't see any oath frames.
i was wondering how they'd turn out, considering the change in style.
might be because instead of the shine now it's just sparkles on the side
I like it
Adds a flare to it
Not just plain and ordinary
It shows the standouts in rarity
Be cool to see a whole new file for those married
you mean like a toggle that lists oathed ships at the top?
As in maybe silver or platinum

For married
oh, you mean background
Mhm
this is a nice ui, if a bit cold. no idea why i complained about it last time.
Good
must have had a bad day.
So they did hear me then
I mean, I'm not sure if that toggle actually does what I think it does
but the heart symbol seems to imply it does something related
maybe sorties by affection, no idea
Could be
come to think of it, I'm rewatching the vid now
一周年で公開しましたUIリニューアル、その開発中のプレビュー動画を公開! ご意見やご感想がありましたら、コメントでぜひ! ※動画サイズの都合上、実際の画面演出より多少速めでの再生になります
I'm not seeing any heart symbol for 100 affection on Javelin
Good that their rearranging everything
2:56, prince of wales
I hope it doesnt mean they're hiding the symbol when fielding ships, cause that'd be an odd choice
I’ll let you know when it happens
opening tech boxes tho is a bit uninspiring now
I like the gold flash we have now
in the vid it just pops in unceremoniously
wouldn't we all 
I'm still kinda annoyed about how we're getting gold boxes in mail stuff instead of rainbows
Rainbows?
every time it's like "yaaaay I got purple equipment"
T5s or whatever they are
the ones that guarantee gold equip
I'm not huge on the whole RNG rewards, but having a guarantee that everyone gets the same rarity would be a nice start
Yeah
at the very least if you get a crane from the t5 box it's still at the very least a purple plate
instead of blue like with T4s when you get purple equip (which lets be honest, is propably about 90% of the time)
well, the UI vid didnt showcase any dorm changes, so hopefully they will include morale for the 2nd dorm slotting
You mean murder them to death
both I suppose 
Day 27: Sakura Empire still doesn't suspect me of not being an animal girl.
is aquan lewding the children now 
is Rei still butthurt about the earlier comment 

i dont like baseless comments
You mean a completely unnecessary comment

I am still trying to figure out what is going on with ashigara's "special" barrage 
"Posting images of 100 aff = lewding kids"
Is just stupid at best and downright dumb at worst
woah so much lewding going on 

So...what i figured so far from Ashigara's special barrage, is that at lv 6+ gains a second round and that it has pretty decent chances to burn the enemy
, but it still has a REALLY low base damage 

Interesting
Might want to try a "burn to death" composition in the future: Sarakai,Atago,Belfast,Ashigara 🔥
🔥
@stuck copper I see her barrage mostly just as giving her that buff n all that
well, that aside, I'm just maxing the skill cuz I like her 
deutschland skill still waiting 
has to wait till I regenerate some red books, ashi and amagi gonna burn through em all
prob after I max the bunnies
Yeah, but i want to look for some synergy since i am going to use her pretty often 
lol
as if Im not 
well Im prob not
cuz too many ships I like to use

liking a lot of different stuff can get problematic cuz you get stuck choosing 
I'll take being spoiled for choice over being forced to use 6 specific ships 
I had enough of that nonsense in KC
"Here's 200 characters, btw we designed the event in such a way that only 12 of them matter"
I mean, the original idea wasn't bad

encourage people to use new ships so they might find a new favorite
but they doubled down on it in the worst way possible
oh do they
they overbuffed the enemies with so much armor that they started putting historical dmg buffs on specific ships to make them basically the only ones that can reliably damage them
^
oh i see
The characters are pretty much the only reason why I still stick with it
but the gameplay has gone so badly into the "Let's add more rng on top of rng"
and then punishing you for doing anything other than the most optimal comp
I've heard some praise over some of the characters here and there, tho I dont remember which
that it no longer feels like you're playing the game
and I know it got some nice research books
it feels more like you're just copying the top strat on wiki
AL thankfully is still at the stage where you can still have fun with meme comps
and fielding your favorites
but it'll propably eventually start hitting that roadblock too 
😢
most games of this kind do
eventually you get to the point where you just have to add stronger and stronger units
while all the old ones will remain underpowered by comparison
but you have to make the events harder at the same time
oh i see
hopefully they can stay on the roll with retrofits and whatnot
if they want my money, they gotta give me the stuff first
atleast restart will get his pow someday
maybe not hono but the pow is guaranteed if they do the anniversary free ssr here too

they will, that's pretty much a given
Aquan 
at least I'm not the only one 
Wait a second...something is really weird here 
hm?
The update in the 21th will give us the chinese event skins, but i am not sure if the event too
Since that event has limited construction too
Don't tell me we are going to get 2 limited constructions at the same time? 
dont think that to be the case
I'm thinking new ships in regular construction and some mini-quest for a skin
does the event rewards some ships too?
Or maybe they are just giving us the Yatsen mini event instead of the chinese one 
I'm cool with that, tho I'd rather they did that after CE
not in the middle of it
this event's already taxing as it is to get to 100k points 
yamashiro skin quest gib
But Yatsen's event needs a map too and it only last 1 week, it would fit perfectly after this event and the duration of those limited skins
So, my bet is Yatsen, and the Anshan-class will be for later this year maybe 
They buffed stuff like Poi's barrage(added torps to it) and Atago's HE skill too
NC had a different skill too
'while in same fleet with South Dakota, increases own FP by 5% (20%) and reduces damage received on South Dakota by 4% (10%)'
North and South Heroic Duo
yeah
The Lead Color Remembrance event is being run from 9/20/2017 to 9/27/2017. It includes a set of event maps, an event chain for the Light Crusier Yat Sen.
it had 3 SP maps
that event has a map
when will we get the reward for the weekly login? (the 20 cubes and gold)
oh tnx, didn't see the message ❤
Cute Aurora skin, but default is better tho. Still gotta sting for people who don't have Aurora. How goes the hunt @wintry sonnet 
For me, Takao and Fusou is a must buy so far.
how many times have i seen that screenshot being shown 
fusou only

@stuck copper its a new screenshot everytime

but same disgusted look from me

all aurora's skins are great, if you're a whale you'll prob get all, if you're a poor fuck like me you'll be content with default


















