#wiki-feedback | Azur Lane Official | Page 16

safe mural Oct 9, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Ok fixed

wet herald Oct 9, 2019, 10:02 PM

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For the EN server wiki page, both Inazuma and Ikazuchi call themselves Akatsuki in the ship descriptions

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The former is Ikazuchi, the latter Inazuma

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The descriptions are fine for CN/JP

rugged trellis Oct 9, 2019, 10:18 PM

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i need to double check, but if they didn't fix it yet its wrong in the game

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@wet herald yup its still wrong in the game, you should file a bug report if it hasn't been done already

wet herald Oct 9, 2019, 10:22 PM

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In February and June it’s been reported already

rugged trellis Oct 9, 2019, 10:23 PM

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well then we can just hope that at some point they actually decide to fix it

safe mural Oct 10, 2019, 6:30 PM

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as always if anyone sees a missing skin in the skins list, pls let me know and I'll update it

grave talon Oct 10, 2019, 9:43 PM

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is the wiki down? I can't even search

gentle river Oct 10, 2019, 9:56 PM

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up for me

thick verge Oct 11, 2019, 9:51 AM

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The node map for sp3 on Spee event page is missing an enemy spawn marker on I5

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uneven quarry Oct 11, 2019, 10:36 AM

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~~anyone fixing this already?~~

safe mural Oct 11, 2019, 12:25 PM

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Not me

uneven quarry Oct 11, 2019, 12:31 PM

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kay ill do it

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nvm ardwar did it

hardy hull Oct 11, 2019, 3:17 PM

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seal of the four gods missing its icon

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at least on servers page

sage basin Oct 11, 2019, 3:18 PM

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yeah, somehow we can't find its icon LaffeyDrink

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maybe I should check it again...

obtuse zenith Oct 11, 2019, 3:18 PM

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MutsukiHyperStare

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i just fixed it

uneven quarry Oct 11, 2019, 3:19 PM

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👏

wet bison Oct 11, 2019, 3:20 PM

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and the server silently rejected my edit MutsukiHyperStare

compact maple Oct 11, 2019, 3:20 PM

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friendzoned MutsukiHyperStare

wet bison Oct 11, 2019, 3:20 PM

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not even an error message, just kicked me out to the "Read" tab MutsukiHyperStare

compact maple Oct 11, 2019, 3:21 PM

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maybe it figured you're an EN player

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EntyHeh

sleek patrol Oct 11, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Could some additional redirects be created, mainly thinking "List of DD Guns" and "List of CL Guns" to the applicable pages?

arctic trail Oct 12, 2019, 1:28 PM

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Hi, could I get wiki team role? Just got approved for a wiki account and I'd like to help around LaffeyDrink

obtuse zenith Oct 12, 2019, 1:33 PM

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@fleet halo ^

fleet halo Oct 12, 2019, 1:34 PM

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sandyWink

scenic salmon Oct 13, 2019, 4:36 AM

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Is this where I go to get the fancy green name AkashiHide

uneven quarry Oct 13, 2019, 4:48 AM

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uh

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when you already got accepted

scenic salmon Oct 13, 2019, 7:58 AM

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yea I did get accepted

fleet halo Oct 13, 2019, 7:59 AM

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sandyWink

sage basin Oct 15, 2019, 11:03 AM

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BuckyStare

uneven quarry Oct 15, 2019, 11:03 AM

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AkashiHide

sage basin Oct 15, 2019, 11:04 AM

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the msg is deleted?

uneven quarry Oct 15, 2019, 11:04 AM

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prolly

jolly condor Oct 15, 2019, 11:04 AM

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Are the chinese numbers wrong? or CN server has less clears required?

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sage basin Oct 15, 2019, 11:05 AM

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well BuckyStare

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it's "A total of 60 times"

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so the number of runs required are 10/10/20/20

jolly condor Oct 15, 2019, 11:06 AM

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Oh, I see now

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but still confusing I'd say

uneven quarry Oct 15, 2019, 11:16 AM

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nobby made it that way

that's why i made it a mission instead of task

wet bison Oct 15, 2019, 12:33 PM

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a horizontal table like for Crosswave server-wide rewards might've worked the best here AkashiHide

pallid frost Oct 15, 2019, 12:35 PM

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That is until the mobile frontend murders the table layout

rugged trellis Oct 15, 2019, 12:36 PM

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wh
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Uzukiiiii

noble stone Oct 15, 2019, 6:49 PM

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That's not a good way to do things

past marten Oct 16, 2019, 3:20 PM

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if you search akashi questline it just takes you here and doesnt redirect:
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Akashi_Questline

Azur Lane Wiki

Akashi Questline

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theres a bunch of things which dont redirect actually

safe mural Oct 16, 2019, 3:34 PM

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Pretty sure that's because we don't use those pages and they'll be deleted soon

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No point having a redirect if it's gonna be deleted

past marten Oct 16, 2019, 3:35 PM

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oh ok, so the kai pages are also up for deletion i guess?

safe mural Oct 16, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Which one?

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But probably

past marten Oct 16, 2019, 3:35 PM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Ranger_Kai i just did a random kai, i figure most of them are like that

Azur Lane Wiki

Ranger Kai

rugged trellis Oct 16, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Yes they are

safe mural Oct 16, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Yep

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I wonder when people will actually delete it though CleveStare

past marten Oct 16, 2019, 3:37 PM

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well if its intended thats fine, just thought id mention

crisp rivet Oct 16, 2019, 6:42 PM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Meowfficer

Ambush

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Azur Lane Wiki

Meowfficer

Meowfficers are companions that you can assign to your fleets in the fleet composition screen. They can strengthen your fleet with "Skills" and "Abilities" to turn the battle in your favor.

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Airstrike

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which? Thinkpitz

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since SG and Eagle descriptions seem similar in wiki and game, but Marble is ambigous

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I mean, regarding airstrike/ambush decreasing

safe mural Oct 16, 2019, 6:53 PM

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@uneven quarry

untold siren Oct 16, 2019, 6:54 PM

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2 months ago

safe mural Oct 16, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Do I see you doing it?

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CleveStare

compact maple Oct 16, 2019, 6:55 PM

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~~he didnt give a timeframe~~

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BronyaLurk

safe mural Oct 16, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Also we have no one to help translate anything on it

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He's been making changes as he can get someone to

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He's asleep now but he will reply when he is awake.

mental fractal Oct 16, 2019, 11:32 PM

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I mined all the meowfficer stat bonus skills. Unfortunately I couldn't make any sense of the Airstrike/Ambush avoidance. I wonder if most of it might be server-side.

hardy hull Oct 16, 2019, 11:37 PM

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I believe in this case it's in game one that's wrong, i remember one of the cats had such problem with confusing airstrikes and ambush

uneven quarry Oct 17, 2019, 9:44 AM

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well... sorry for taking long...

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Hypernyan did ran through all the skill and there is no miss match with the current datamine and CN wiki, for now the only thing that missing from the cat page is initial talent for rare cat and elite cat (well im doing it slowly since im the only one that working on it)

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ill change the description for now ~~if not i worry that we will get another comment on this~~ while waiting for confirmation whether the game is wrong or not

tiny forum Oct 17, 2019, 11:15 AM

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I was looking through en events and noticed that 1st anniversary isn't listed, and actually new dawn too

uneven quarry Oct 17, 2019, 11:30 AM

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wait let me check

sage basin Oct 17, 2019, 11:33 AM

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working on it BuckyStare

uneven quarry Oct 17, 2019, 11:33 AM

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we have them listed

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wait

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miyano

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listed where?

sage basin Oct 17, 2019, 11:33 AM

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well

tiny forum Oct 17, 2019, 11:33 AM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/EN_Events

Azur Lane Wiki

EN Events

sage basin Oct 17, 2019, 11:33 AM

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missing EN date on Events

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also that

uneven quarry Oct 17, 2019, 11:33 AM

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oh

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there

tulip oyster Oct 17, 2019, 6:01 PM

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For return of the wargod memories on the wiki, Chapters 2-4 are missing for the chinese version

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Memories/The_Return_of_the_War_God#Chinese_Story

Azur Lane Wiki

The Return of the War God

proven raft Oct 18, 2019, 8:23 AM

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I think a note "Only usable by Koln retrofit" wouldn't be bad Thinkpitz

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uneven quarry Oct 18, 2019, 9:54 AM

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well ill put "usable by koln retro" for now, since we dont know yet if the dev going to add another ship that can use that

untold siren Oct 18, 2019, 10:16 AM

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I mean we could always just change the note if they did

rugged trellis Oct 18, 2019, 12:54 PM

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umm that's not what the note should be used for

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for info on which ships/classes/types can equip it always check the equipment page itself

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otherwise we'd have to fill A LOT of notes for equipments

fierce remnant Oct 19, 2019, 3:41 PM

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Hello it me again
It should be U-110 not U-101

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sage basin Oct 19, 2019, 3:51 PM

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fixed BuckyStare

safe mural Oct 19, 2019, 3:51 PM

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Fixed

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Wait

compact maple Oct 19, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Fixed UniSip

sage basin Oct 19, 2019, 3:52 PM

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UniSip

safe mural Oct 19, 2019, 3:52 PM

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It kicked me off of the wiki once I fixed it glare

obtuse zenith Oct 19, 2019, 3:52 PM

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~~terre stop shitposting~~

compact maple Oct 19, 2019, 3:53 PM

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~~who the frog are you~~

sage basin Oct 19, 2019, 3:53 PM

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change log says it was my edit UniSip

safe mural Oct 19, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Yeah because wiki kicked me off

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I pressed saved and got kicked off

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And now I can’t log in

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🙄

sage basin Oct 19, 2019, 3:53 PM

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~~perhaps me submitting the edit kicked you out~~

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MutsukiHyperStare

obtuse zenith Oct 19, 2019, 3:54 PM

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~~ask minty~~ @compact maple

safe mural Oct 19, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Probably glare

fierce remnant Oct 19, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Hello, it me again again AkagiLUL
U-110 page doesn't mention that she is only available during event "Jaws and Enigma" https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/U-110

Azur Lane Wiki

U-110

Ironblood Submarine (416)

rugged trellis Oct 19, 2019, 11:07 PM

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added it

proven raft Oct 21, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Retrofit of Sims missing the background of this node

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uneven quarry Oct 21, 2019, 4:40 PM

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AkashiHide

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is it blue?

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@proven raft

proven raft Oct 21, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Nope Thinkpitz

uneven quarry Oct 21, 2019, 4:42 PM

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red?

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i cant open app rn xD

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wait

proven raft Oct 21, 2019, 4:44 PM

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I am just reloading the page and it is colorless

uneven quarry Oct 21, 2019, 4:44 PM

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yes

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i know

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~~this why i ask~~

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from in game

proven raft Oct 21, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Ah

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My bad

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Blue

uneven quarry Oct 21, 2019, 4:49 PM

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ok i need to check with other first :P

unborn oak Oct 22, 2019, 9:54 AM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Category:Submarines shouldn't I-13 be on the submarine list aswell?

Azur Lane Wiki

Category:Submarines

A submarine is a watercraft capable of independent operation underwater. It differs from a submersible, which has more limited underwater capability. Although experimental submarines had been built before, submarine design took off during the 19th century, and they were adopt...

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nevermind there's a small hint to submarine carriers...

uneven quarry Oct 22, 2019, 10:42 AM

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AkashiHide

proven raft Oct 22, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Change Zeppy yellow skill description with the game's one the wiki's isn't accurate

sage basin Oct 22, 2019, 2:22 PM

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ok, how inaccurate it is rn BuckyStare

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. . .

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@proven raft I don't really get it, it's still the same desc Fumizoomi

proven raft Oct 22, 2019, 2:26 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552611445297119297/636204560850878484/image0.png
During battle, increases own Air Power, Anti-Air, and Reload by 1% (5%) per allied Ironblood ship in the fleet. This is what is on the wiki

compact maple Oct 22, 2019, 2:28 PM

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sounds correct tho butsuckystare

sage basin Oct 22, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Fumizoomi ahh, the wording can cause misunderstanding

fickle fern Oct 22, 2019, 2:34 PM

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basically change air power to AVI?

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oh, and the "in your fleet"

left cliff Oct 23, 2019, 12:02 PM

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"in the fleet" - "in your fleet"
potato potato ...

heady kayak Oct 23, 2019, 3:07 PM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Research#Saint_Louis

Unlocked at commander level 30, the Shipyard is a feature where you can develop special ships of Priority and Decisive rarity.
The two bold parts are links that lead to non-existing pages, but then successfully forward to the proper page. Would be nice to have them direct to the correct place right away 😃

Azur Lane Wiki

Research

The Research tab is where you can develop ships through the completion of a number of quests. It also houses the Lab ("Techacademy") where you can undertake Researches for equipment and PR ship blueprints.

obtuse zenith Oct 23, 2019, 3:11 PM

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should be working fine now

heady kayak Oct 23, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Excellent! Super fast response~

obtuse zenith Oct 23, 2019, 3:11 PM

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also edited Decisive a bit Yeptune

heady kayak Oct 23, 2019, 3:11 PM

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worrynod

small crag Oct 23, 2019, 7:12 PM

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There's a problem with the translation of Agano's Chinese lines on her wiki page.
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Agano/Quotes#Chinese_Server
The translation given for her line when sortieing with Nagara is:
If you want to bully Nagara, you will have to get through me first~

However, Google translate says the line means:
If you want to bully Nagara, you have to ask me first~
Both the official English translation and the official Japanese translation support this:
EN: If you want to mess with Nagara, first you must tell me.
JP:If you want to toy with Nagara, you'll have to get my permission first.

Azur Lane Wiki

Quotes

safe mural Oct 23, 2019, 7:20 PM

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The Chinese interpretation is up to the person who writes it

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He's a native Chinese speaker... So

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I trust that over Google translate

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Also CN, JP, and EN lines aren't necessarily the same

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So... It's not gonna be changed.

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Also those aren't official Japanese translations lol

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These are all fan-translations

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@small crag

rugged trellis Oct 23, 2019, 7:22 PM

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to add to that, the only translations that are official are the ones taken directly from the english client

safe mural Oct 23, 2019, 7:22 PM

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I assumed that was obvious MutsukiHyperStare

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official JP translation
implying Yostar would actually translate from JP to EN for the wiki

safe mural Oct 24, 2019, 1:53 PM

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We are aware that misc skins aren't showing up on the skins page on the wiki, please be patient while we fix this CleveWink

fleet halo Oct 24, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Yeptune

native dagger Oct 25, 2019, 12:26 PM

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is wiki borked or is it just my net

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nvm its that certain page

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HelenaPlease

uneven quarry Oct 25, 2019, 12:35 PM

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AkashiHide

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~~broofsi~~

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@native dagger what page

native dagger Oct 25, 2019, 12:37 PM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Events/Iris_of_the_Light_and_the_Dark

Azur Lane Wiki

Iris of the Light and the Dark

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thats one of the first two links that pops out in google when searching about iris

uneven quarry Oct 25, 2019, 12:37 PM

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we aren't using the "Event/" anymore

native dagger Oct 25, 2019, 12:37 PM

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GWjojoKillMe
welp

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uneven quarry Oct 25, 2019, 12:37 PM

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LOL

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the 3rd one

native dagger Oct 25, 2019, 12:38 PM

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yeah, so pretty much nothing can be done then GWseremePeepoThink

uneven quarry Oct 25, 2019, 12:38 PM

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:nod:

native dagger Oct 25, 2019, 12:38 PM

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also nimi cant get to the wiki, is that on the nimi side of problems?

uneven quarry Oct 25, 2019, 12:38 PM

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uh

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need to ask yamato about nimi

native dagger Oct 25, 2019, 12:39 PM

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uneven quarry Oct 25, 2019, 12:39 PM

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@quaint stream

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sry for ping

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wait for his answer

rugged trellis Oct 25, 2019, 1:03 PM

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for problems with nimi ask go to #512967149975896084

hardy hull Oct 25, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Yama said it's on wiki side

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rugged trellis Oct 25, 2019, 2:44 PM

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then he has to resolve this with server host, nothing we can do about that

safe mural Oct 25, 2019, 3:22 PM

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@uncut cape Do you have the paint H from the Jupiter event?

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I know you save all the icons so I'm hoping 🙏

uncut cape Oct 25, 2019, 3:23 PM

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I’m not sure if I do ;w;
But I know the paint icons are the same every event, so if not, we just gotta wait on another

safe mural Oct 25, 2019, 3:23 PM

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H is a new color :(

uncut cape Oct 25, 2019, 3:23 PM

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Oh—

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Lemme seeee

safe mural Oct 25, 2019, 3:23 PM

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If you have it, would you ping me? I'd appreciate it DorkHeart

uncut cape Oct 25, 2019, 3:24 PM

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I screenshot since I don’t have access to files myself, so you’d have to crop it

rugged trellis Oct 25, 2019, 3:24 PM

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the paint icons are actually not the same every event

safe mural Oct 25, 2019, 3:24 PM

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CleveStare

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glare Nobby.

uncut cape Oct 25, 2019, 3:25 PM

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When was the event? I have a lot of photos XD

safe mural Oct 25, 2019, 3:25 PM

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Sept 26th

uncut cape Oct 25, 2019, 3:25 PM

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Thank

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I dont have the icon aaaa but i have the color!

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I’ll be more vigilant next time

safe mural Oct 25, 2019, 3:27 PM

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Crap DaiShock

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No thank you for your help anyway (we might need those?)

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Can you PM me with all the paintings?

uncut cape Oct 25, 2019, 3:28 PM

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I screen cap every art page before and after completion (well almost every — I messed up on my first event) but I forgot to screen cap the paint rewards

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Sure!

compact maple Oct 25, 2019, 3:29 PM

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~~best screenshotter in the west~~

proven raft Oct 26, 2019, 8:40 AM

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This in "Fleet Technology" page at the bottom doesn't work

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uneven quarry Oct 26, 2019, 12:26 PM

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AkashiHide

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iirc he either deleted the sheet or moved it

tiny forum Oct 26, 2019, 4:05 PM

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what happened with the wiki? It suddenly changed while I was browsing it

obtuse zenith Oct 26, 2019, 4:05 PM

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did you get changed to mobile view?

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just click the desktop view at the bottom, it happens once in a while

tiny forum Oct 26, 2019, 4:06 PM

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now that you mention it, it does look like mobile view

uneven quarry Oct 26, 2019, 4:08 PM

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AkashiHide

fleet halo Oct 26, 2019, 4:10 PM

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pat

tall seal Oct 27, 2019, 12:48 PM

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Hello. Can I get wiki team role? I joined the wiki and currently worked on Hiryuu's and Souryuu's pages.

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@fleet halo

fleet halo Oct 27, 2019, 12:49 PM

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Yeptune

compact maple Oct 27, 2019, 12:49 PM

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@fleet halo ~~can I get the wiki role too, I go look at the pages every now and then~~

tall seal Oct 27, 2019, 12:49 PM

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Or wiki staff, hm.

compact maple Oct 27, 2019, 12:49 PM

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dun ban AkashiHiding

tall seal Oct 27, 2019, 12:49 PM

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What's the difference?

fleet halo Oct 27, 2019, 12:50 PM

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just admin of wiki

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is there when something is down on wiki so u can ping them EntyLUL

tall seal Oct 27, 2019, 12:50 PM

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Thank you very much!

tribal rivet Oct 27, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Not 100% but 80%?

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safe mural Oct 27, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Where is this? Please link the page

sage basin Oct 27, 2019, 2:57 PM

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that's Barrage page LaffeyHide

obtuse zenith Oct 27, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Though, who?

sage basin Oct 27, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Formidable

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it's 80% chance to launch skill

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with all torps having 100% chance to cause Flood upon hitting

compact maple Oct 27, 2019, 3:01 PM

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~~you got the numbers in the wrong place~~ thinkingudao

sage basin Oct 27, 2019, 3:04 PM

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...?

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LaffeyStare

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~~damnit~~

compact maple Oct 27, 2019, 3:04 PM

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it's 80% chance to launch skill
with all torps having 100% chance to cause Flood upon hitting

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wiki

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70% (100%) chance to launch additional Fairey Albacore planes that has 80% chance to inflict Flooding for 9 seconds upon hitting an enemy (damage is based on skill level and Aviation stat).

sage basin Oct 27, 2019, 3:05 PM

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ok, fixed LaffeyDrink

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~~now excuse me, I gotta go fuck myself~~

compact maple Oct 27, 2019, 3:06 PM

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~~that's kinda hot, enjoy~~ UniSip

bleak tundra Oct 28, 2019, 12:35 AM

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in the morale page it says "When ship morale hits 50 or lower, it will starting to show the face icon on the fleet screen.
It is basically a good practice to switching your shipgirls once these face icons started to appear and let them rest."

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shouldn't it say

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"it will start to show" or "it will show"

safe mural Oct 28, 2019, 1:46 AM

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When reporting stuff, please link the page, it makes things faster. If no one has done it, I will fix it now

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K fixed

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& fixed the link to the lecture hall

bleak tundra Oct 28, 2019, 3:01 AM

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ty

candid oyster Oct 28, 2019, 7:44 AM

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Yuubari was added to light pool, but her wiki page doesn't reflect that

fickle fern Oct 28, 2019, 7:48 AM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Yuubari link to page in case it was needed

sage basin Oct 28, 2019, 7:48 AM

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BuckyStare

fickle fern Oct 28, 2019, 7:51 AM

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update notes for reference of yuubari added to light
https://www.facebook.com/AzurLaneEN/photos/pcb.984624865235306/984624711901988/?type=3&theater

Facebook

Azur Lane

Azur Lane added a new photo.

sage basin Oct 28, 2019, 8:05 AM

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alright, I get it, give me a few minutes LaffeyCantWakeUp

fickle fern Oct 28, 2019, 10:22 AM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/List_of_Destroyer_Guns#Max_Rarity
something is odd. why is the twin 120mm average DP so high? i think it's just copy pasted DPS against light.

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pallid frost Oct 28, 2019, 10:27 AM

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I don't think we have average DPS
If you mean the raw DPS, then yeah, for normal DD gun it'll have the same number with DPS against light since the armor modifier is 1.0

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Raw is just damage without armor modifier, useful for ships that ignore ammo type

fickle fern Oct 28, 2019, 10:31 AM

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is that so.... huh, that's really weird

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thanks then SpeeWave

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that clears u[ my confusion

pallid frost Oct 28, 2019, 10:35 AM

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Yeah, simply 2×2×15×1.25/(0.1+1.44+0.26)

fickle fern Oct 28, 2019, 10:36 AM

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UniHurt math, make it stop, make it stop

compact maple Oct 28, 2019, 10:36 AM

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2+2=5 buckyup

sage basin Oct 28, 2019, 10:40 AM

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nah, 1+2=9 BuckySmug

pallid frost Oct 28, 2019, 10:46 AM

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Eh, in spherical geometry a triangle can have three right angles

fickle fern Oct 28, 2019, 10:48 AM

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i understand the words, but i don't understand the sentence

woven bluff Oct 28, 2019, 11:07 AM

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CVL icon has a plus now, or has it always been that way?

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rugged trellis Oct 28, 2019, 11:11 AM

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MutsukiHyperStare

sage basin Oct 28, 2019, 11:14 AM

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MutsukiHyperStare

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it should be the other way

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CV icon has the plus sign

fickle fern Oct 28, 2019, 11:15 AM

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why is the light one have the plus? someone fudged up don't they

sage basin Oct 28, 2019, 11:15 AM

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

fickle fern Oct 28, 2019, 11:15 AM

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time to update the icon template/palette thingy SandyMeme

woven bluff Oct 28, 2019, 11:16 AM

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Well the CV icon seem to be correct, CVL icon happens to share the same icon currently

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I also notice in pages for equipments, they don't retain the plus icons like with the Ship Drop table

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rugged trellis Oct 28, 2019, 11:18 AM

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that's how it should be

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i think

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Uzukiiiii

woven bluff Oct 28, 2019, 11:19 AM

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Clicking on the icons on both pages seem to lead to the same page about the Category: of the ship type, seems odd that they're not using the same template?

sage basin Oct 28, 2019, 11:22 AM

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it's just using the same image for 2 templates LaffeyDrink

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nothing special

fickle fern Oct 28, 2019, 11:36 AM

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when searching for "Twin 120mm" the sardegnan twin 120 appears twice as "Twin 120mm (Model 1933)"/"Twin 120mm Main Gun (M1933)" and "Twin 120mm (Model 1936)"/"Twin 120mm Main Gun (M1936)"

uneven quarry Oct 28, 2019, 12:06 PM

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wait what

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uhh

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did someone forgot to mark for delete?

sage basin Oct 28, 2019, 12:08 PM

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WarShrug

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should be ok as long as they are redirect links

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~~unless they are not~~

uneven quarry Oct 28, 2019, 12:09 PM

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they both same content

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xD

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is this naming issue again

sage basin Oct 28, 2019, 12:10 PM

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???

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LaffeyStare

uneven quarry Oct 28, 2019, 12:10 PM

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nvm

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its either someone forgot to remove page or naming

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wait

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no

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actually

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they direct to the same page @sage basin

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just need to remove from search bar then

sage basin Oct 28, 2019, 12:14 PM

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eh?

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MutsukiHyperStare

uneven quarry Oct 28, 2019, 12:14 PM

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what eh

sage basin Oct 28, 2019, 12:14 PM

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yuki

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are you ok

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MutsukiHyperStare

uneven quarry Oct 28, 2019, 12:15 PM

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idk

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xD

sage basin Oct 28, 2019, 12:15 PM

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there are 2 separate pages about 2 different Italian 120mm guns

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one is Model 1933

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the other is Model 1936

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the main pages are "Twin 120mm (Model 1933)" and "Twin 120mm (Model 1936)"

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with "Twin 120mm Main Gun (M1933)" and "Twin 120mm Main Gun (M1936)" as their respective redirect pages

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MutsukiHyperStare

fiery grail Oct 28, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Can we get a redirect for Beaver_Badge to this page https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Little_Beaver_Squadron_Tag

Azur Lane Wiki

Little Beaver Squadron Tag

Universal Auxiliary

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Since that's what most people call it

noble stone Oct 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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That's not how we use redirects

safe mural Oct 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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@rugged trellis told u he'd say no

fiery grail Oct 28, 2019, 6:28 PM

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How do you use redirects then?

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because right now, "beaver badge" just gets me this which I don't think is helpful

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hardy hull Oct 28, 2019, 6:30 PM

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I mean, you get correct result even before you finish typing it anyway ThinkingBTTV

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fiery grail Oct 28, 2019, 6:31 PM

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I type too fast for the autocomplete to show up I guess LaffeyDrink

safe mural Oct 28, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Sounds like a personal problem AkashiHide

fiery grail Oct 28, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Indeed

bleak tundra Oct 29, 2019, 12:36 AM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Portland
"Enterprise, Yorktown, Portland, Indianapolis, and Saratoga watching Canada Day fireworks"
Image clearly states it's the 4th of july fireworks (second image)

Azur Lane Wiki

Portland

Eagle Union Heavy Cruiser (044)

safe mural Oct 29, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Fixed

noble stone Oct 29, 2019, 2:38 AM

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That was the National Holiday art contest winner which was both Canada Day (July 1) and 4th of July

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So it's both

bleak tundra Oct 29, 2019, 3:10 AM

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Image URL says the 4th of July so I would assume it would be more focused on that

hexed nest Oct 29, 2019, 6:59 AM

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When fredric der grosse add?

sage basin Oct 29, 2019, 6:59 AM

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she is already in wiki LaffeyStare

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/wiki Friedrich

plush hemlockBOT Oct 29, 2019, 7:00 AM

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invalid json response body at https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/api.php?action=opensearch&search=Friedrich reason: Unexpected token < in JSON at position 0

sage basin Oct 29, 2019, 7:00 AM

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oof

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Friedrich_der_Grosse

Azur Lane Wiki

Friedrich der Grosse

Ironblood Battleship (Plan011)

safe mural Oct 29, 2019, 11:21 AM

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I think he was asking when she's gonna be added in game... In which case, that is not wiki feedback, and game feedback would tell you to read the pinned messages

hexed nest Oct 30, 2019, 5:54 AM

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Ues

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Yes

unborn oak Oct 30, 2019, 9:24 AM

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She isn't listed as drop in D-3

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Opposite-Colored_Rerun

Azur Lane Wiki

Opposite-Colored Rerun

sage basin Oct 30, 2019, 9:57 AM

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of course it's not listed LaffeyDrink

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I was cleaning up that page

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and realized a lot of drop stuffs are missing

pallid frost Oct 30, 2019, 10:02 AM

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Will be sorted out when the event come back, ~~unless Miyano did it first~~

sage basin Oct 30, 2019, 10:02 AM

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I will continue cleaning it up anyway

rugged trellis Oct 30, 2019, 10:03 AM

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~~can we just abandon this page~~

sage basin Oct 30, 2019, 10:03 AM

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not when Tirpitz event rerun is near

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MutsukiHyperStare

rugged trellis Oct 30, 2019, 10:03 AM

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but we make a new page for en run

sage basin Oct 30, 2019, 10:04 AM

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inb4 EN rerun is same as CN/JP

rugged trellis Oct 30, 2019, 10:04 AM

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we still make a new page

sage basin Oct 30, 2019, 10:04 AM

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EmileSip

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fine

rugged trellis Oct 30, 2019, 10:05 AM

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there is some missing data like ship drops

sage basin Oct 30, 2019, 10:05 AM

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yes

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missing ship drops, missing eq drops, missing EXP

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you name it

rugged trellis Oct 30, 2019, 10:06 AM

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so we make a new page

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with everything in it

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and everyone is happy HappyFace

sage basin Oct 30, 2019, 10:07 AM

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I thought at first that we made Divergent Chessboard as a separate page since it was so much different than the original Opposite Colored

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LaffeyDrink

pallid frost Oct 30, 2019, 10:08 AM

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~~Ah yeah, let's confuse visitors even more~~

rugged trellis Oct 30, 2019, 10:09 AM

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not our fault yostar made this event such a mess for EN

noble stone Oct 30, 2019, 7:50 PM

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These things aren’t meant to be monolithic

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Not sure what is the rationale for keeping a page broken and without info just to serve as a testimony to the fact that it was broken and without info for long periods of time

native dagger Oct 31, 2019, 12:45 PM

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is there a reason why there's no z1 skill barrage gif GWseremePeepoThink
no offense meant, just asking

safe mural Oct 31, 2019, 12:46 PM

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Uh

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It wasn't in EN at the time

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I believe

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So we didn't have it?

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The dude who uploaded it is only in EN

native dagger Oct 31, 2019, 1:04 PM

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ah naruhodo, thanks

drifting hare Oct 31, 2019, 1:09 PM

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Someone go update San Juan's English lines. They removed all traces of Spanish, which is a damn shame.

safe mural Oct 31, 2019, 1:10 PM

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... stare

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That has nothing to do with the wiki

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Post it in game feedback

drifting hare Oct 31, 2019, 1:10 PM

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Ah

rugged trellis Oct 31, 2019, 1:10 PM

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I am confused

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Did they update the lines in game?

drifting hare Oct 31, 2019, 1:11 PM

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Yes

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They removed the Spanish

safe mural Oct 31, 2019, 1:11 PM

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The Spanish has nothing to do with us though, the only that has to be changed on our end is to add the new lines WarShrug

rugged trellis Oct 31, 2019, 1:11 PM

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Oh well then I'll update the lines once i get home

drifting hare Oct 31, 2019, 1:11 PM

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So I'm asking to update the lines in the wiki accordingly, that's all

safe mural Oct 31, 2019, 1:11 PM

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WarShrug

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It drives me insane when you just put Akashi randomly glare

rugged trellis Oct 31, 2019, 1:12 PM

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/remind 3h update san juan lines

plush hemlockBOT Oct 31, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Created a reminder with ID k2eqap45.

true prawn Oct 31, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Bit of a weird question but does anyone here know how to get in touch with the site admin for the wiki? It's regarding an useragent being blocked

safe mural Oct 31, 2019, 8:43 PM

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I can have someone ask, but why are they blocked?

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BuckyStare

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@noble stone can you deal with this cuz I'm not in the other server AkashiHide

true prawn Oct 31, 2019, 8:47 PM

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I've built a bot for another server about a month or so ago which sources it's data from the wiki through pulling from the cargo tables every few weeks when a major update happens. Since the muse ships have been added I tried to pull the tables fresh and discovered the default useragent used was blocked.

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Rather than just switching the useragent to something different I figured I'd see if I can get in touch with someone and open a dialogue about it

safe mural Oct 31, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Gonna have to let one of them talk to it BuckyStare since we're not staff

rugged trellis Oct 31, 2019, 8:48 PM

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what are using for this?

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@true prawn

true prawn Oct 31, 2019, 8:48 PM

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I'm sorry?

noble stone Oct 31, 2019, 8:48 PM

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You probably got banned for sending thousands of requests in a very short period of time

safe mural Oct 31, 2019, 8:49 PM

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That's why I pinged staff BuckyStareUp

rugged trellis Oct 31, 2019, 8:49 PM

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which library did you use to pull the data

true prawn Oct 31, 2019, 8:50 PM

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node-fetch, it's set up to almost never send requests

rugged trellis Oct 31, 2019, 8:51 PM

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well too many requests consecutively will get you banned

true prawn Oct 31, 2019, 8:51 PM

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The way it works is the bot caches the cargo table results and only refreshes them when the data is gone entirely or when manually prompted to do so, which can only be done by me

rugged trellis Oct 31, 2019, 8:51 PM

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because there were some poeple that managed to DDOS the server already

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limit is 1 request per 5 seconds

true prawn Oct 31, 2019, 8:54 PM

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The way it's set up is that the bot sends 3 requests to fetch all the ship, skills and equipment data. It does that once when prompted to do so. Which only happens about once every 2-3 weeks when the game has a major update.

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So rate limiting should hardly be the issue

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What's weird as well is that it's the useragent that's blocked to my knowledge, rather than the IP that the bot is being hosted on

noble stone Oct 31, 2019, 8:57 PM

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We don't want people crawling the wiki. It's a privilege if you know how to do it responsibly. If it stresses or crashes the server, we ban it

true prawn Oct 31, 2019, 9:02 PM

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The whole thing is being done as responsibly as possible, that's why I'm confused as to why the useragent was blocked. And why the useragent was blocked rather than the IP being blocked.

noble stone Oct 31, 2019, 9:08 PM

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How bout we think about this one

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If someone puts up the code for a crawler that can crash the wiki onto github

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Do we care more about that or about the IP of the person using it

true prawn Oct 31, 2019, 9:12 PM

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I get where you're coming from but if you don't want people exporting the cargo tables (Which is the data used to fill out the wiki templates) then you'd be better off looking into the possibility of disabling that feature, rather than blocking the useragent which can be changed to whatever you'd like with a single line

noble stone Oct 31, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Yes, Cargo was a mistake

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That we are stuck with

true prawn Oct 31, 2019, 9:17 PM

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Wasn't trying to imply that cargo was a mistake, it's certainly better than the alternative method which would actually be considered crawling

noble stone Oct 31, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Just checked and there was a blanket user agent ban

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Change your user agent to your Discord display or something and it should be fine as long as you don't flood the wiki

true prawn Oct 31, 2019, 9:28 PM

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Appreciated. If you'd like I'd be more than happy to show exactly how the bot is interacting with the wiki if there's any concerns.

true prawn Oct 31, 2019, 10:01 PM

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The bot's been updated, any future requests it makes will use the AzurInfo Discord Bot useragent

bleak tundra Oct 31, 2019, 10:13 PM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Opposite-Colored_Rerun#D-4
shouldn't it be "D4" and not "D-4"?

quartz hawk Nov 2, 2019, 3:24 AM

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There is obviously an error of translation. That translated line should in the row above.

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Link: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Admiral_Hipper/Quotes#Japanese_Server

Azur Lane Wiki

Quotes

uneven quarry Nov 2, 2019, 6:00 AM

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@safe mural NogatoPing

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translation stuff

noble stone Nov 2, 2019, 6:05 AM

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it just needs to get moved up a square

obtuse zenith Nov 2, 2019, 6:19 AM

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moved it

raven cradle Nov 2, 2019, 4:40 PM

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#gameplay-help said that u-47 wiki input is wrong so i am going to put this here
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468804420801527810/639957474736341002/unknown.png

fleet halo Nov 2, 2019, 4:53 PM

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fixed sandyWink

uneven quarry Nov 2, 2019, 4:53 PM

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MutsukiHyperStare

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i was just going to the page

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nozo so fast z35wow

fleet halo Nov 2, 2019, 4:54 PM

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nah i went to the page and someone fixed it already EntyLUL

uneven quarry Nov 2, 2019, 4:55 PM

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MutsukiHyperStare

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ardwar?

compact maple Nov 2, 2019, 4:58 PM

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fastest wiki editor in the west buckyup

quaint stream Nov 2, 2019, 5:01 PM

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excellent wiki that isnt a clusterfuck of incomplete nonsense like girls frontline. 10/10 would recommend.

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second to 100% Oj wiki though as they moved to a more organized platform

compact maple Nov 2, 2019, 5:02 PM

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100chickenjuice ojseagull

pallid frost Nov 3, 2019, 5:18 AM

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MutsukiStare

elfin bramble Nov 3, 2019, 7:47 AM

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Thinkpitz z1 retro skill shows crit rate in-game while crit damage on wiki

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pallid frost Nov 3, 2019, 9:08 AM

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@elfin bramble The CN and JP description mentions it as crit damage increase:

CN: 每20秒，有$1概率开启毁灭模式·原型，自身造成的暴击伤害提升$2，先锋部队受到的航空伤害降低$3，持续10秒，同时发射一轮弹幕
JP: 20秒毎、$1で発動。強力な弾幕を展開し、10秒間自身の与えるクリティカルダメージが$2アップし、前衛艦隊の受ける航空攻撃によるダメージを$3軽減する

The code also said so (it is the same for all game version):

effect_list = {
    {
        type = "BattleBuffAddBulletAttr",
        trigger = {"onBulletCreate"},
        arg_list = {
            number = 0.5,
            attr = "criDamage"
        }
    }
}

So, ask #bug-reports if this is just translation error on EN part

elfin bramble Nov 3, 2019, 9:09 AM

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got it 👍

somber gulch Nov 3, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Does D3 boss really give less EXP than D1 and D2 or is it just a typo?

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pallid frost Nov 3, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Yeah, that should be 631
Sorry HelenaPlease

somber gulch Nov 3, 2019, 6:31 PM

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CleveWink

errant sleet Nov 3, 2019, 7:54 PM

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Hey, is it possible to update the chibi on Chikuma’s page? ~~I know she isn’t a actual character, but the Chibi and CG doesn’t match, since the Chibi in-game matches her CG~~

rugged trellis Nov 3, 2019, 8:06 PM

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the chibi version displayed on their pages is the newest static chibi that got provided in the game files

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not sure which is newer, but for the currently used version in the game there is no static chibi file

brazen reef Nov 3, 2019, 10:43 PM

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Is there plans to add the 2 missing chapters in DC on the wiki?

obtuse zenith Nov 3, 2019, 10:46 PM

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akashi_Hide

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is it rerun-only chapters?

brazen reef Nov 3, 2019, 10:48 PM

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MogamiSigh
Yeah.

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CN and JP have them on the wiki so i was just wondering

obtuse zenith Nov 3, 2019, 10:50 PM

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i can probably add it, but i don't have the chapters unlocked yet

brazen reef Nov 3, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Alright. You should have the chapters unlocked already if you've already finished them back then.

obtuse zenith Nov 3, 2019, 10:55 PM

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oh true, i thought i'd have to re-clear b4/d4 after 100% again entyLUL

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i'll work on it then

brazen reef Nov 3, 2019, 10:56 PM

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Good stuff

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laffeythumb

obtuse zenith Nov 3, 2019, 10:58 PM

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oh, upon looking at it, the actual new chapters are chapters "Flank 1" and "Flank 2" AkashiHide

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which is chapter 3 and 18 on the updated DC memory

brazen reef Nov 3, 2019, 11:02 PM

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Yup. Those are the ones i was talking about.

obtuse zenith Nov 3, 2019, 11:24 PM

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they're added now

tulip oyster Nov 4, 2019, 12:31 AM

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This is a typo right? I checked in game and it says that this rewards was only 300 points

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brazen reef Nov 4, 2019, 1:17 AM

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@obtuse zenith Thanks DorkHeart

bleak tundra Nov 4, 2019, 1:52 AM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Opposite-Colored_Rerun#B4

On B4, unless you got the medal from CN/JP on this stage, you can only get the medal on D4

Azur Lane Wiki

Opposite-Colored Rerun

New time-limited skin will be available in a cash shop:

quaint stream Nov 4, 2019, 3:06 PM

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whats the drop rates?

somber gulch Nov 4, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Sadly I don't think we can buy any candy canes in the event shop

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Sadly I don't think we can buy any candy canes in the event shop

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safe mural Nov 4, 2019, 3:14 PM

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@somber gulch please make your name tagable for those who don't speak Japanese, that being said, where are you getting this info? The last time we had the event was during when we had candy canes, but it is the same as naval curry

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it's one of the rules, just put "| hfiodshfoi" or whatever after, but it needs to be taggable BelHide

hardy hull Nov 4, 2019, 3:15 PM

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it's not

somber gulch Nov 4, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Uh, I was looking at the original run

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My bad..

hardy hull Nov 4, 2019, 3:16 PM

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it's just whatever seasonal food it
back then it was candies

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this time it's curry

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those are the same and just a reskin

somber gulch Nov 4, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Yeah didn't realise I wasn't looking at the rerun

safe mural Nov 4, 2019, 3:17 PM

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I thought it was in the rules to have a taggable name BuckyStare I'm gonna go re-read

hardy hull Nov 4, 2019, 3:17 PM

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it was changed at least couple of months ago

quaint stream Nov 4, 2019, 3:17 PM

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so if we have certain construction times are we guaranteed the drop?

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like 39 minutes

safe mural Nov 4, 2019, 3:17 PM

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What are you talking about? Like build timers?

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Yes

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Hold on!

quaint stream Nov 4, 2019, 3:18 PM

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looking for z46

safe mural Nov 4, 2019, 3:18 PM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Building#List_of_Ships_by_Construction_Time

Azur Lane Wiki

Building

The Building tab is where you can construct new ships, check on the status of ships under construction, trade medals for ships, and retire ships. Each is handled from a menu on the left. From the top down the 4 menus are: Construction, Under Construction, Exchange, and Retire

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Here

quaint stream Nov 4, 2019, 3:18 PM

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the wiki doesnt clarify much

safe mural Nov 4, 2019, 3:18 PM

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It has a whole list BuckyStare

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Only 1 ship has that timer so yes... that's her

rugged trellis Nov 4, 2019, 3:19 PM

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i don't even know how much more clear that can be

quaint stream Nov 4, 2019, 3:19 PM

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it works.

safe mural Nov 4, 2019, 3:19 PM

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me either but

proven raft Nov 5, 2019, 6:15 PM

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For the Bulin: Now that we have a name for the rarity, "SR" is wrong, shouldn't be "E"?

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safe mural Nov 5, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Nope

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SR in the JP/CN ver of the game

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@proven raft

proven raft Nov 5, 2019, 6:20 PM

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I see

finite acorn Nov 6, 2019, 2:00 AM

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no idea why they changed it; it just makes confusion when players fro JP/CN try to talk to EN players. (It' to the point where i just use colors instead)

hardy hull Nov 6, 2019, 2:04 AM

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fairly certain it's Elite on CN as well, unless they changed it

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and even if they did - it was Elite on CN as well, so it's just JP sticking to nonsensical naming they used to

noble stone Nov 6, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Let us break what is not broken 🙏

finite acorn Nov 6, 2019, 2:57 AM

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you mean mobage standards?

fleet halo Nov 6, 2019, 4:02 AM

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cn is sr? MutsukiStare

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just en being weird smugBucky

finite acorn Nov 6, 2019, 4:32 AM

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I was thinking on it doesn't CN and JP go N/R/SR/SSR - Normal/Rare/Elite/Champion more or less as in doing both parts?

fleet halo Nov 6, 2019, 4:49 AM

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tbh mainly most mobage (jp) is ssr or ur being the top

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so they just use that system at beginning? thinkZed

primal pier Nov 6, 2019, 5:46 AM

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cn is both Elite and SR https://puu.sh/EBhLT.png

rugged trellis Nov 6, 2019, 6:09 AM

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Omegalilwoo

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yeah that rarity shit is so fucked up

fiery igloo Nov 6, 2019, 11:36 AM

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I think the damage of BIG 7-Sakura is switched

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safe mural Nov 6, 2019, 11:38 AM

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It'd... help if you put English on there for people BuckyStare

fiery igloo Nov 6, 2019, 11:38 AM

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I... can't 👀

safe mural Nov 6, 2019, 11:39 AM

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... circle what you want them to read? BuckyStare

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@uneven quarry do you do barrage pages?

fiery igloo Nov 6, 2019, 11:40 AM

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uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:40 AM

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i do

safe mural Nov 6, 2019, 11:40 AM

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Well that one also says 40% chance to burn, while ours says 30, no?

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:40 AM

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once only

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let me read from top first

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wait is it switch

safe mural Nov 6, 2019, 11:41 AM

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Barrage isn't my specialty WarShrug

fiery igloo Nov 6, 2019, 11:41 AM

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The column before the percentage is the "number of shells"

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:41 AM

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let me check my barrage excel

fiery igloo Nov 6, 2019, 11:42 AM

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There no way Nagato barrage straigh shot has 44 shells

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:42 AM

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i think someone asked this already but i forgot what we gave for answer

fiery igloo Nov 6, 2019, 11:42 AM

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It has to be the arrow

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:42 AM

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wait a

safe mural Nov 6, 2019, 11:42 AM

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Can you send the page?

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:42 AM

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wait

safe mural Nov 6, 2019, 11:42 AM

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I don't speak Chinese so this is hard to navigate BuckyStare

obtuse zenith Nov 6, 2019, 11:43 AM

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AkashiHiding

fiery igloo Nov 6, 2019, 11:43 AM

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That 40% is proc chance btw

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:43 AM

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safe mural Nov 6, 2019, 11:43 AM

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Where did we get that from though?

obtuse zenith Nov 6, 2019, 11:43 AM

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Straight shots are the base big seven right?

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:44 AM

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ya

obtuse zenith Nov 6, 2019, 11:44 AM

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Quite sure it CAN have 44 shells

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:44 AM

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we got it from enbay

obtuse zenith Nov 6, 2019, 11:44 AM

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It's pretty wide

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:44 AM

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the file

safe mural Nov 6, 2019, 11:44 AM

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Who

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:44 AM

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Enbay

obtuse zenith Nov 6, 2019, 11:44 AM

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Dunkek

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:44 AM

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@ Enbayft#2527

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this guy

safe mural Nov 6, 2019, 11:44 AM

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Are we 100% sure it's right?

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:44 AM

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should be

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i mean

safe mural Nov 6, 2019, 11:44 AM

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AL
wiki stuff
should be

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:45 AM

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we been using it for forever

safe mural Nov 6, 2019, 11:45 AM

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So 50/50

fiery igloo Nov 6, 2019, 11:45 AM

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http://wiki.joyme.com/blhx/全船全弹发射，专属弹幕，技能弹幕性能一览

%E5%85%A8%E8%88%B9%E5%85%A8%E5%BC%B9%E5%8F%91%E5%B0%84%EF%BC%8C%E4...

obtuse zenith Nov 6, 2019, 11:45 AM

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He's reliable

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:45 AM

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its correct

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ya its should be correct what

safe mural Nov 6, 2019, 11:45 AM

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WarShrug Guess the CN wiki is wrong

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:46 AM

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total round of 44

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wait

fiery igloo Nov 6, 2019, 11:46 AM

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Thr straight shot is the middle part of the barrage

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:46 AM

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wait a sec

obtuse zenith Nov 6, 2019, 11:46 AM

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MutsukiHyperStare

fiery igloo Nov 6, 2019, 11:46 AM

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Its the arrow that is wide

obtuse zenith Nov 6, 2019, 11:47 AM

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Wasn't the middle part called the arrow cause it looks like an arrow

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:47 AM

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i forgot what we answered last time lol

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i think we got the same question

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about this

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straight shot is the little one

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yes

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nyan was correct

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we called the big one "arrow"

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since its shaped like an arrow

fiery igloo Nov 6, 2019, 11:49 AM

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MutsukiCurse

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:50 AM

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so its correct

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i just redid the calculation

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so no problem there

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and btw i cant reach chinese xD

fiery igloo Nov 6, 2019, 11:52 AM

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Hmm

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:52 AM

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also its the same

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btw

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for cn wiki

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44 shot

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and 16

fiery igloo Nov 6, 2019, 11:54 AM

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Tks

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Though maybe change into something less confusing like "middle" or something

uneven quarry Nov 6, 2019, 11:55 AM

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yea

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let me talk about it to the other first

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thx for the info

proven raft Nov 6, 2019, 8:08 PM

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I pretty sure I never saw a "?" node in 11-2 Thinkpitz

rugged trellis Nov 6, 2019, 8:10 PM

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i'm pretty sure all main story node maps are generated from the game data so they should all be correct

proven raft Nov 6, 2019, 8:10 PM

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I will keep a eye on it

safe mural Nov 6, 2019, 8:10 PM

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BuckyStare

pallid goblet Nov 7, 2019, 3:49 AM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Opposite-Colored_Rerun#B4
It says that you get 60 points for defeating the boss (B4), but in fact you get 100 points. I think the same mistake with other stages

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Azur Lane Wiki

Opposite-Colored Rerun

For the duration of the event, the following ships will be available as rewards or in the Limited Construction Pool:

sleek patrol Nov 7, 2019, 3:51 AM

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It says 60 points for A4

pallid goblet Nov 7, 2019, 3:57 AM

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GWseremePeepoThink

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IzumoBlush

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sleek patrol Nov 7, 2019, 3:59 AM

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Oh, weird. Cause I saw this first

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But yeah, individual maps seem to be wonky

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Looks like the values for individual maps were copied from the Opposite Colored values

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Or maybe that legend from divergent chessboard

sage basin Nov 7, 2019, 4:43 AM

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BuckyStare

proven raft Nov 7, 2019, 9:15 AM

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Still I did 11-2 sometimes yesterday but 0 "?"

rugged trellis Nov 7, 2019, 9:58 AM

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@pallid frost HipperPing

pallid frost Nov 7, 2019, 1:28 PM

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MutsukiHyperStare

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yeah, the box will never appear Uzukiiiii

karmic patio Nov 8, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Enterprise additional voicelines 9 and 10 swapped default skin

safe mural Nov 8, 2019, 3:25 PM

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I believe that's a bug in game we knew about...? Thinkpitz

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Oh, you mean from the JP to the EN?

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@rugged trellis Isn't this an issue we know about? The lines in EN are wrongly put? Isn't it a game bug?

rugged trellis Nov 8, 2019, 3:32 PM

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i'm not sure let me check once i'm home

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/remind 2h enterprise lines

plush hemlockBOT Nov 8, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Created a reminder with ID k2qatu2n.

safe mural Nov 8, 2019, 3:33 PM

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well I can say that it's 100% the wrong line spoken, but I thought it was an EN bug, not us bug

karmic patio Nov 8, 2019, 3:37 PM

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I could test out now in game if you want me to

safe mural Nov 8, 2019, 3:43 PM

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yeah try that

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I think it's a EN issue not JP

karmic patio Nov 8, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Are the voice lines random?

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Sortie with 1 of the following would mean to start a battle right?

safe mural Nov 8, 2019, 4:04 PM

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yes

rugged trellis Nov 8, 2019, 5:02 PM

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@karmic patio the wiki voicelines are currently the same as the game for Enterprise, so if they are swapped it should be reported as a bug

karmic patio Nov 8, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Oh ok I see, Im sorry I couldn't verify in game didn't get the voice line to appear >.<

dreamy chasm Nov 11, 2019, 5:43 AM

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Entry for Leander's Command skill isn't the same as in-game text. The way it's written in the wiki makes it unclear whether or not she's included in the buff ("Cruisers in the same fleet")

obtuse zenith Nov 11, 2019, 6:03 AM

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akashi_Hide weird feedback

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removed "same" from desc

quaint stream Nov 12, 2019, 11:54 AM

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I-168 still doesn't have voice files uploaded in quotes

rugged trellis Nov 12, 2019, 12:22 PM

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the person uploading them is currently busy irl so expect it to be delayed for an unknown time

uneven quarry Nov 12, 2019, 1:13 PM

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~~really busy~~

graceful musk Nov 13, 2019, 4:52 AM

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Im pretty sure she can be built

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hardy hull Nov 13, 2019, 4:53 AM

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S3Confused

graceful musk Nov 13, 2019, 4:53 AM

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im like a little confused about that

hardy hull Nov 13, 2019, 4:54 AM

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about what?

graceful musk Nov 13, 2019, 4:54 AM

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if she can be built why does it just say map drop ;-;

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wait

hardy hull Nov 13, 2019, 4:55 AM

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because she can be built AND is a map drop

graceful musk Nov 13, 2019, 4:55 AM

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nvm

hardy hull Nov 13, 2019, 4:55 AM

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S3Confused

graceful musk Nov 13, 2019, 4:55 AM

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im dumb

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thats why

obtuse zenith Nov 13, 2019, 5:23 AM

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mutsukikoo

fleet halo Nov 13, 2019, 6:13 AM

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mustare

grave hare Nov 14, 2019, 9:25 AM

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The AL wiki should have a section for all the AL loading screens

pallid frost Nov 14, 2019, 9:54 AM

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There's partial list
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Loading_Screens

hushed moss Nov 14, 2019, 11:05 AM

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Glasgow skill mention hatakaze, but in datamine it should be herself
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Glasgow

Azur Lane Wiki

Glasgow

Royal Navy Light Cruiser ()

obtuse zenith Nov 14, 2019, 11:07 AM

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herself only?

proven raft Nov 14, 2019, 11:07 AM

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If it is the same skill as Hatakaze, yes

obtuse zenith Nov 14, 2019, 11:08 AM

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oh ok

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fixed

sage basin Nov 14, 2019, 11:12 AM

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MutsukiHyperStare

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~~GODDAMNIT~~

obtuse zenith Nov 14, 2019, 11:13 AM

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don't blame yourself blobpat

compact maple Nov 14, 2019, 11:14 AM

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blame the healer Tanya_Pat

proven raft Nov 14, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Is the 1:25 the time for Glasgow?

shell hawk Nov 14, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Yes, and that'd be for #gameplay-help

proven raft Nov 14, 2019, 3:13 PM

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It was for the wiki too

obtuse zenith Nov 14, 2019, 3:30 PM

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added timer on Glasgow's page, it's 1:25:00

abstract basin Nov 15, 2019, 4:47 PM

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zWave

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does the wiki still list 500lb fighter bombs t0 same dmg as t3?

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it does. ok. it was datamined t0 500lbs do more

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380 instead of 360.
its on chinese wiki too

safe mural Nov 15, 2019, 4:50 PM

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BuckyStare @hollow rock sounds like something for you to do

hollow rock Nov 15, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Well I'm fairly good at maths but equipment isn't my specialty

safe mural Nov 15, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Who does it?

wet bison Nov 15, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Me zWave

gentle river Nov 15, 2019, 6:03 PM

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im not good at math

pallid frost Nov 15, 2019, 6:16 PM

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It only not listed in the upper table. The DPS table below already use the correct value (152-380 for VF17)
Thinkpitz

wet bison Nov 15, 2019, 6:18 PM

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pretty much

wet bison Nov 15, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Should be done now BuckyStare

past marten Nov 16, 2019, 9:11 PM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Equipment_Skins
there's no icons for any of the equipment skins on this page

Azur Lane Wiki

Equipment Skins

As of 26th December 2017, equipment skins have been implemented, allowing you to change the skin of the projectiles/planes. You can equip the skins in the equipment screen for each ship. Each instance of skin can only be equipped by one equipment. You can obtain equipment ski...

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actually kizuna is there only

uneven quarry Nov 16, 2019, 9:31 PM

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oh ya its still not done

rugged trellis Nov 16, 2019, 9:31 PM

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WIP still

uneven quarry Nov 16, 2019, 9:31 PM

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should put a wip at the top Thinkpitz

past marten Nov 17, 2019, 3:04 PM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Royal_Navy
the equipment list at the bottom doesnt have this gun
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Triple_152mm_(BL_6"_Mk_XXIII)

Azur Lane Wiki

Royal Navy

The Royal Navy primarily corresponds to the historical British Royal Navy, though does include some ships from associated Commonwealth navies, for example HMAS Vampire or HMNZS Achilles. The Royal Navy is one of two major nations of the Azur Lane, the other being the Eagle Un...

Azur Lane Wiki

Triple_152mm_(BL_6%22_Mk_XXIII)

Royal Navy CL Gun

uneven quarry Nov 17, 2019, 3:05 PM

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NagatoStare

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uh no its cargo....

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@wet bison

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halp

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its cargo

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xD

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dun wan to touch

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@rugged trellis

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or nobby

wet bison Nov 17, 2019, 3:12 PM

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the list filters by T3 or T0 equips, but that gun only exists in the T1 form right now LeanderXD

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guess the query needs an exception for that

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fixed LeanderXD

past marten Nov 17, 2019, 3:26 PM

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HappyFace big plays with big speed, thanks

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 6:07 PM

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How are you guys getting from column 4 to column 5 in this table? https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Living_Area#Dorm

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And also, how does the food buff stack within the formula if you have two different food buffs, because if I do it additively I don't get quite the right number.

safe mural Nov 18, 2019, 6:14 PM

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@rugged trellis

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 6:25 PM

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I managed to get all three values listed on the wiki with my calculator, but then when I try to use that to back into the total oil required for a given amount of EXP per ship something doesn't come out right, and I can't figure out what.

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But it seems like if the EXP/oil is 216, then the oil required for that EXP (without food bonus, which I still can't figure out) then I should just be able to take the EXP per ship and divide by EXP/oil to get total oil needed

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but 100 oil is obviously too low

safe mural Nov 18, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Just wait until someone replies

rugged trellis Nov 18, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Lemme try to find this in the game files, this some very old stuff probably pulled from cn eiki

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Thanks. I think once I have that clarified and the reason why the required oil is coming out so low this will be done

rugged trellis Nov 18, 2019, 6:30 PM

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checking the history, @pallid frost has added that so i'll let him explain that

wet bison Nov 18, 2019, 9:06 PM

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About the food buff: it should work additively and the values on the column 5 should be 21, 84, 126, 151.2, 175, 202.125 and 226.8. I don't know why the values are what they are there MutsukiStare

About the oil needed to give 5 ships the amount of EXP: it's actually even lower --- from 2 formulas:

EXP = 20 * Oil * Commander Level Buff * Happiness Buff * Food Buff * Food Presence Buff

and

EXP = 240 * Ship Count * Ship Count Modifier * Commander Level Buff * Happiness Buff * Food Buff * Food Presence Buff * Hours

we can get:

Oil = EXP / (20 * Commander Level Buff * Happiness Buff * Food Buff * Food Presence Buff)
    = 12 * Ship Count * Ship Count Modifier * Hours

In this case, we have 5 ships, so Ship Count = 5 and Ship Count Modifier = 0.64 and Oil = 12 * 5 * 0.64 * Hours = 38.4 * Hours or 38.4 Oil/Hour for everyone

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which corresponds to 3840 supply units/Hour and max 40000 / 3840 = 10h25m of continuous feeding with the default supply bar that can hold 40k supply units

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Is there a way to write the last formula using the Exp per oil value?

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Also what is "food presence buff"

wet bison Nov 18, 2019, 9:12 PM

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if food is present (> 0), it equals to 1, if not, it's 0.25

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Oh, for your last formula I get the same value as I do with EXP / EXP/oil

wet bison Nov 18, 2019, 9:13 PM

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4x penalty for not feeding shipgirls properly

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 9:13 PM

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Oil = EXP / (20 * Commander Level Buff * Happiness Buff * Food Buff * Food Presence Buff) = EXP / EXP/oil

wet bison Nov 18, 2019, 9:14 PM

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it could be derived from the 1st formula

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EXP / Oil = 20 * Commander Level Buff * Happiness Buff * Food Buff * Food Presence Buff

pallid frost Nov 18, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Fifth column is slightly less than simply adding 5% because the curry adds 5000 food point, enough for 78min@5ship, but only buff for 60min
18min left is unbuffed

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 9:17 PM

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Oh, I see

wet bison Nov 18, 2019, 9:17 PM

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that's quite unintuitive MutsukiStare

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 9:17 PM

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so it's really .05*42/60

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Over the life of the curry

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oh but hmm, the conversion rate means with fewer ships it can actually last the whole time

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NotLikeAtago

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No wait

pallid frost Nov 18, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Also the gem food buff overshoot the consumption time for 5ship, so you really want to combine them with basic food if you don't want to waste their buff

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 9:20 PM

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actually with fewer ships it would last less of the time

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because you'd be consuming it slower

pallid frost Nov 18, 2019, 9:21 PM

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UniHurt yeah, that's correct
I'm also confusing it

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 9:22 PM

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I think I'll calibrate the EXP/oil w/curry to use the number of ships to figure out the proportion of the buff that applies but as for the input food buff, I'll just assume it lasts the whole time

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If the INDEX(MATCH()) returns a value equal to the consumption of food per hour given X ships then I think this is correct for calculating the EXP/oil using curry

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I still don't get the value in the last column though

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No wait, it's the amount consumed divided by 5000, no subtraction

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If that table is rounding to the nearest 1 decimal place, I think I got it

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20.77 at 0 commander level, 0 comfort

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Yeah, 100;400 is 224.29

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So wait, is it really the case that you only need 96 oil (well, technically 100 I guess) to get 21,600 EXP for each of your ships in the dorm?

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It's just that it will take 12.4 hours?

wet bison Nov 18, 2019, 9:30 PM

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no, the oil cost doesn't depend on the amount of ships or time

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it should still be 38.4

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Which value should be 38.4?

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I'm sure time is correct, because time is just EXP divided EXP/hr

wet bison Nov 18, 2019, 9:32 PM

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oh wait, it's Oil/h that is 38.4, here it needs to be multiplied by the time

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which is 12.4h here

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so 476.16 Oil

pallid frost Nov 18, 2019, 9:34 PM

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224.29 is XP/oil, not XP/oil/ship, so that's a factor of 5 off on your calc

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 9:34 PM

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So do I need to divide that by the number of ships?

pallid frost Nov 18, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Of course the food is distributed to 5 ships no?

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 9:35 PM

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I guess that's the part I wasn't clear on. The supplies conversion rate table doesn't specify that the EXP listed is the total EXP, not the EXP per ship.

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It's doubly confusing because the consumption rate doesn't scale linearly

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I still don't get 38.4 though, I get 44.86

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The number I have now makes a bit more sense though: 482 oil needed

wet bison Nov 18, 2019, 9:36 PM

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38.4 comes from Oil / Hour = 12 * Ship Count * Ship Count Modifier

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Ship Count = 5, Ship Count Modifier for 5 ships is 0.64

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 9:37 PM

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Where are you getting 12

wet bison Nov 18, 2019, 9:37 PM

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it's from 240 / 20 in my first message MutsukiStare

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where 240 is the base EXP/h, and 20 is the base EXP/Oil

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240 EXP/h is derived from 1 EXP/dorm tick where dorm tick is 15 seconds (also the rate at which the "EXP ^" appear on top of shipgirls and when they actually get EXP)

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Oh, I think I get it. If you use the base values to come up with an unadjusted 12 oil consumed per hour, the commander level and comfort buffs don't matter anymore because you've removed EXP from the equation. So you only need to do the math based on the ship count modifier (which affects the base consumption) and the number of ships (because you consume per 15s tick value times the number of ships)

wet bison Nov 18, 2019, 9:42 PM

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yep

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 9:43 PM

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So actually the EXP per oil doesn't matter at all

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Nor does the EXP per supply

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pallid frost Nov 18, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Supply per hour (and by extension oil per hour) should only affected by number of ships
It's the amount of xp gained per tick that varies

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Oh wait, is EXP per supply actually total exp per supply and not EXP per ship per supply?

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Which means I have to divide EXP per ship at max food by the number of ships?

wet bison Nov 18, 2019, 9:49 PM

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if you're talking about formulas I wrote, then yes, whenever EXP is there it means total EXP

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for EXP per ship I'd write EXP / Ship Count or smth

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 9:50 PM

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I mean on the wiki, since I managed to arrive at all the values in that table now

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The explanation through the first table makes sense, and the explanation about EXP per unit of supply mostly makes sense as does the conversion into EXP per oil. But the Supplies Conversion Rate table itself is sort of unclear as to whether it's EXP per ship or total EXP distributed among all ships, especially in that final column which assumes 5 ships

pallid frost Nov 18, 2019, 9:52 PM

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I mean, it isn't exp/ship so I think it should be clear enough mathematically
That's aparently not the case Uzukiiiii

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 9:53 PM

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The parenthetical aside in the middle of the explanation about the efficiency of dorm vs commission, while informative, makes understanding the actual explanation more difficult by splitting it up

pallid frost Nov 18, 2019, 9:54 PM

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The latter table was supposed to display the economy, as x oil translate to y exp

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The former table displays the rate

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 9:55 PM

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The first table makes a lot of sense. The latter table is confusing because you have EXP/oil with the bonus assuming 5 ships, but including the number of ships in there makes it seem like the table is in EXP/ship

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Now that I've talked to you, I know it's because the number of ships affects the extent to which the curry buff is utilized

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but that's not immediately clear from the table or explanation

pallid frost Nov 18, 2019, 9:59 PM

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That conditional info should really placed somewhere else, but the wiki doesn't allow for ref or footnote syntax HelenaPlease

wet bison Nov 18, 2019, 10:02 PM

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I think a formula for EXP/Supply that takes buff expiration time into consideration before the table could help

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 10:02 PM

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Maybe change the title of the table to Supplies Conversion Rate (Total EXP earned spread among all ships) or something

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Yeah, that is definitely an improvement to be made, because it's not obvious at all how you get from the 4th column to the 5th column

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Ok, so now I have this

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I'm rounding the total oil required up to the nearest 50, since curry is in units of 50 oil

wet bison Nov 18, 2019, 10:11 PM

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Food Buff Mean = (Food Buff * Food Buff Duration + 1 * (Food Duration - Food Buff Duration)) / Food Duration

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arithmetic mean, basically

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though when several food buffs get stacked, the formula should be more complicated

fiery grail Nov 18, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Yeah I'm not going to bother with that, I have a disclaimer on there that the assumption is that the food buff lasts for the entire relevant period

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It gets doubly complicated not just from stacking different food buffs, but from stacking multiple quantities of food buffs even if they're the same

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If you don't stack them proportionately

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You basically need to fill out another table to calculate it lol

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But basically, what this is telling me is that the dorm is actually pretty efficient oil-wise, but terrible from a time efficiency perspective

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Regardless, thank you both very much for your help.

mental fractal Nov 19, 2019, 6:06 AM

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but terrible from a time efficiency perspective
That doesn't really matter though, since you can still do commissions or battles while in dorm, unless you need the maximum morale recovery from second floor. Other than this dorm only blocks lecture hall, which is only available some of the time per ship and will be slower slower by the time you unlock it.

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 1:17 PM

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True enough

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Do Ember and Ash have their art on the wiki anywhere? They don't seem to have a page, but I'm pretty sure that they both have CG

obtuse zenith Nov 19, 2019, 1:33 PM

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pretty sure it's here

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serach for "Alter" on the recent uploads

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~~my wiki isn't loading~~ PortDoll

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 1:38 PM

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They do not have a page and they will not have one

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I've said it three times now

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 1:39 PM

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pretty sure we uploaded their image already

obtuse zenith Nov 19, 2019, 1:39 PM

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mutsukihyperstare but the art

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 1:39 PM

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PAGE

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 1:39 PM

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~~his talking about art btw~~

wet bison Nov 19, 2019, 1:39 PM

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there is TakaoDark.png, but I can't find one for Enty, only her chibi Uzukiiiii

obtuse zenith Nov 19, 2019, 1:39 PM

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he's askign about art

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 1:39 PM

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ye

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not to "make a page"

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 1:39 PM

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Enty does not have her full CG on the wiki

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I've looked before

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 1:40 PM

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only takao then

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?

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 1:40 PM

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Yes but she doesn't have her chibi up

wet bison Nov 19, 2019, 1:40 PM

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yes, and also memory banners & icons, if only face is needed

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 1:41 PM

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Doesn't matter, just look up Alter. That being said, the way I interpreted his message was They don't seem to have a page, but I'm pretty sure that they both have CG

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So that's why I am saying, no, there's no page, and their art is not linked to any.

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Right but Bismarck had a whole fake wiki page before her release

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Some other ships have a page that's just their art

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Sirens have a group of pages of their cut scene/chibi art

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I feel like the alter ships should have something like one of those

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E.g. https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Pola

Azur Lane Wiki

Pola

Sardegna Empire Heavy Cruiser (9006)

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:13 PM

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NagatoStare

pallid frost Nov 19, 2019, 2:14 PM

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RE:

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It's actually easy to get their stats, skills, equipments, pattern, hell, even how exactly they move

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Just that presenting it in a useful but not overwhelming way is quite a challenge, as they're most likely have different stats for each different events/maps/levels

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:17 PM

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That's unreleased ships

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DARK ships

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is different.

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I'm not gonna argue when I've already talked to Nozo about it WarShrug

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:17 PM

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I mean, mostly I just want to be able to find the art easily so that when people are like "who tf is Ember/Ash/Enterprise Alter/Takao Alter" I can just be like boom, here's the link

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Again, I already talked to Nozo, and this has come up several times in here.

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:17 PM

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If it's come up several times then why not add it in some way

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:18 PM

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If you wanna go on the wiki and add it, sure, if not, we don't have the full CG for Enty, we don't have the chibi for Takao.

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:21 PM

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You're the wiki editor, not me. I'm just saying a brief page like what Pola has would be useful for both. Hell, you could even use one of her cutscene appearances as a placeholder for the default CG. I'm just saying it's very clear that people ask about them a lot and having a quick reference for who they are and what they look like would be extremely useful and in line with the purpose of the wiki

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"Ash appears in several cutscenes in the Ashen Simulacrum event. She appears to have some connection to the ship Enterprise."

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:22 PM

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how about this navi, go talk to jif or nozo about it

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:22 PM

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Idk

hollow rock Nov 19, 2019, 2:22 PM

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What about pointing them to a imgur gallery of the pic

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:23 PM

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@fiery grail go ask them first, if you got a confirmation we will add them

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and that's that

hollow rock Nov 19, 2019, 2:23 PM

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Cause when there isn't a full high quality art in game files, it doesn't belong to the wiki

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:23 PM

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I'll DM nozo

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:23 PM

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or jif

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:24 PM

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I think that these characters are important enough and discussed enough that they deserve some mention in the wiki in some fashion

hollow rock Nov 19, 2019, 2:24 PM

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None of the stuff there, except for few exceptions cause of incompet devs not having the files in game, are in game files, not any screenshots or crap

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:27 PM

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I'm not dead set on it being a separate page, I just think the wiki should have some mention/visual depiction of Ember and Ash connected with the Ashen Simulacrum event

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:28 PM

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i get what you mean, but still, if nozo/jif doesnt want we cant force it

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:^

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Maybe a "Trivia" or like "Non-obtainable ships" section at the end of the event page itself that mentions Pola, Littorio's big tiddy sister, and Ember and Ash would be good?

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:29 PM

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like i do agree on nozo and not make a half ass complete page on stuff we dont know

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Except their names aren't confirmed for those, we don't even know what their "official" names are. They go by several in the course of that entire event

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Pointland

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:29 PM

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They introduce themselves as Ember and Ash in the cutscene, don't they?

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:29 PM

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That was another huge issue we had

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:30 PM

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yes

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Yes but they also go by code G

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and other names as well

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:30 PM

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but is that the confirmed name by yostar?

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:30 PM

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We don't know WarShrug because they're not released

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:30 PM

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I mean, like I said, don't make a page for them if you guys don't want to, but as the wiki you guys should have some information on them

hollow rock Nov 19, 2019, 2:30 PM

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That doesn't mean anything, because of arbitrary ass translations

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:30 PM

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We don't have any info on them though...

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Except the art.

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:31 PM

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like if you want people to know, we have story page there

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:31 PM

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"Ash, also known as Code G, appears in the Ashen Simulacrum event cutscenes. She appears to be related to Enterprise in some way"

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WarShrug

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:31 PM

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go ask them to "read" it

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:31 PM

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So we don't know the official name WarShrug

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Yeah but the story page is like 27 tabs and I don't know which tab is relevant without clicking through them

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:31 PM

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just "read" them all, it doesnt hurt to read them all right?

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:31 PM

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WarShrug We could in theory put in on the Siren pages, but they're not Sirens. They're "dark" ships and we don't have an official name on that either

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:31 PM

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its not like you going to lose any time

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Like I said, a brief summary somewhere (not even on its own page, putting it at the end of the Ashen Simulacrum event page or something would be fine) similar to what Pola has would be plenty

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:32 PM

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i mean fine, but with nozo/jif confirmation

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:32 PM

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I made the Pola page.... and we don't have the full CG as I said.

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So I can't make a page like that for them.

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Yes yes I know. But hey, at least you do for Ember

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:32 PM

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...Why would we do one without the other?

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We don't know their official names, as I said.

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Because you can do one

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:32 PM

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if you cant get their approvement, we cant add it

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:32 PM

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We don't have her chibi stare

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:32 PM

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and you can explain them both anyway

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:33 PM

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well they doesnt want to put any stuff about them last time we talk about this

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:33 PM

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And making a separate page is a bad idea. Including it at the bottom of the Ashen Simulacrum maybe, but it's gonna mess up the formatting

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:33 PM

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if you can convince them, go ahead

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Not sure why we're arguing on this when we do the wiki editing. If we've already discussed it, there's no need to keep asking volunteers to make a page that staff has said no to stare

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:34 PM

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My main point is this: This isn't the first time this sort of thing has been requested, and these characters are important to Azur Lane lore. It shouldn't be so hard to find mention of them on the wiki.

I know you guys have editing standards and I don't have any strong opinions on how it should be done, as long as people can find them and understand who they are

rugged trellis Nov 19, 2019, 2:34 PM

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Ok

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I thing there are some misunderstandings from some people here

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We SHOULD have a page about them, where they appear etc.

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But not a page for each of them

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Something like "Ships appeared in Memories" or something

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:35 PM

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We can't put enty alter on a page bc we don't have her art BuckyStare

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It's a cut off version

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Ships appeared in memories, sure, but we don't even have the full art

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Nor do we have a template

rugged trellis Nov 19, 2019, 2:36 PM

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We don't even meed the art

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:36 PM

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i mean that why i said go "read" story

rugged trellis Nov 19, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Just a page with text, art if possible

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:36 PM

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but we do need an official name for them

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and we don't have that

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There's two names and we don't know which one is the "real" one

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:37 PM

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I think if you go with nobby's format you don't need an official name for them because you don't have a dedicated page for them. You can give all of the names used to refer to them based off of the cutscene itself

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:37 PM

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It needs to be able to link to something BuckyStare

rugged trellis Nov 19, 2019, 2:37 PM

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No why

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:37 PM

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if you put it on a page, let's say with memories

rugged trellis Nov 19, 2019, 2:37 PM

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All you need is ONE page

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:37 PM

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yes I KNOW

rugged trellis Nov 19, 2019, 2:37 PM

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A single page

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For all of them

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:38 PM

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I. know. and if you put them on a table of contents

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we're gonna need a name for them

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because if we do ships in memories, we gotta add pola & vendici or w/e

rugged trellis Nov 19, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Well then just call it enterprise alter or something

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It doesn't really matter

safe mural Nov 19, 2019, 2:38 PM

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...But that's not her name stare

lavish wraith Nov 19, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Extended discussions can be taken internally in #466119672165695488 GWomoRaphiWink

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:39 PM

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MutsukiHyperStare

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:39 PM

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We can easily assume from this that "Ember" (being capitalized) is a valid name (or codename)

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uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 2:39 PM

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~~we can change name later, if we go with nobby idea~~

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Same here. With "Ash" capitalized, even if it's just a code name, it's still canonically a valid way to call them

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Nobby's solution is future proof too, so that other ships that only make a brief appearance in the story can still be covered

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you could even then include a list of ships on each event page that only appear in cutscenes and are not obtainable during the event, then just link to the generic "Ships in Memories" page that nobby proposes, maybe with a # ref to the section related to that event, that people can go to for more info

fleet halo Nov 19, 2019, 2:45 PM

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ok finish back reading SandyWink

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let me clarify on this
what i meant by page
i meat page like this

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/User:Nozokana/Ship3

Azur Lane Wiki

Ship3

()

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like the whole regular page for a unknown ship / character that we have no info on other than 1-2 pic

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as for pages like pola https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Pola
i dont mind adding it but it does require pic of it
other than dark enty i think we got pic for all(?)

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as for nobby idea of dark ship page or like unobtainable ship page

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is fine to add it but it require someone active to do keep doing it and it will look quite incomplete like this one

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Siren#Observer_Zero_

Azur Lane Wiki

Siren

We apologise for any inconvenience you may experience using this page.

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Even the siren page is great because if I talk about The Empress or Observer Zero or whatever I can at least show people what they look like

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Hell, I know you can't make a proper page for dark enty without datamined CG but even a hyperlink to an imgur image of a screenshot of a cutscene would at least be able to provide a consistent reference that people can find

fleet halo Nov 19, 2019, 2:52 PM

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actually i remember uploading dark enty

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only found the chibi Thinkpitz

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but i remember uploading the whole thing notLikeDuck

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anyways we are properly going to stuff everything on to 1 page tonorm

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Awesome. Do you think you could start to list memory-only ships at the end of each event page with a link to that event page's section on the memory-only ship page?

fleet halo Nov 19, 2019, 2:58 PM

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hmm find nobby for it after he dont with new page since he handle event page also tonorm

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 2:58 PM

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will do

rugged trellis Nov 19, 2019, 3:22 PM

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@fiery grail made a list of them here https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Unobtainable_Ships is hopefully complete, we'll be filling it with more content in the next few days

Azur Lane Wiki

Unobtainable Ships

We apologise for any inconvenience you may experience using this page.

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 3:23 PM

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Yes, this is basically what I was thinking. Awesome!

I know you're still working on it but I'd also maybe divide it up by event as sub-headers

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Or alphabetize it at least

rugged trellis Nov 19, 2019, 3:23 PM

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yeah that's what i was thinking about, but will do it later when i have time for it (or maybe someone else does it)

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 3:24 PM

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Alphabetizing is easy. Just copy and paste to excel and sort in ascending order

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Chikuma
Dark Enterprise/Ember
Dark Takao/Ash
Jeanne d'Arc
Pola
Richelieu
Sirens
Tone
Vittorio Veneto

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Done

rugged trellis Nov 19, 2019, 3:25 PM

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i meant the splitting by event part

fiery grail Nov 19, 2019, 3:25 PM

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~~oh ok well yeah that'll take a bit more time, just wanted to put it on your radar~~

uneven quarry Nov 19, 2019, 3:25 PM

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im kinda busy too this week xD

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ill look into it when im not busy (or if nobby already done it)

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~~cuz i still have cat and sub on my list of edits~~

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~~and exams~~

elder hound Nov 21, 2019, 9:44 AM

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Herrow. Bunker Hill not marked as "Boss only"

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untold patrol Nov 21, 2019, 9:47 AM

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on this page
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Chapter_13

Azur Lane Wiki

Chapter 13

Chapter 13:

sage basin Nov 21, 2019, 11:13 AM

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added the note for Bunker Hill BuckyStare

uneven quarry Nov 21, 2019, 11:24 AM

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@sage basin

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its on all

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that have boss drop

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like world 6

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etc

sage basin Nov 21, 2019, 11:25 AM

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there is no note for Bunker Hill in 13-4 WarShrug

uneven quarry Nov 21, 2019, 11:30 AM

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UnicornFused

heady kayak Nov 21, 2019, 5:57 PM

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For Tirpitz questline, the English version isn't on the wiki yet. Can that be datamined or something or can I contribute by writing down the lines?

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(I did do the first part without writing things down but hey better than nothing)

obtuse zenith Nov 21, 2019, 6:02 PM

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I'm doing them currently

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I'll get them up in an hour or two

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~~also yes, they can be datamined but putting them into the wiki is more complicated~~

heady kayak Nov 21, 2019, 6:04 PM

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aight

golden orchid Nov 21, 2019, 9:57 PM

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can anyone tell me where this weapon coefficient is comming from? (pls ping me)

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hollow rock Nov 21, 2019, 10:06 PM

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@golden orchid if i'm not mistaken, which i might be cause i'm a dingus, it's this

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golden orchid Nov 21, 2019, 10:07 PM

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ah thanks

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@hollow rock should i assume its just 100% for fairey albacore then? im trying to calc her flood damage. but i dont see coef on their list

hollow rock Nov 21, 2019, 10:09 PM

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not sure about that right now

somber gulch Nov 21, 2019, 10:09 PM

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I have calculated Sara's DoT numbers with coeff at 100%

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They were correct