could you please rephrase that part
#wiki-feedback
plush hemlockBOT
vivid tinsel
@uneven quarry wait shouldnt it be "no other BB/BC"
vivid tinsel
wait the skill ingame?
thing is, its confusing also
but jp players confirmed that it only works if you have no other backline ships aside from 1 CV/CVL
changing "fleet" to "main fleet" should make it clearer imo
pallid frost
The way her skill is coded means the main fleet have to contain one [ CV or CVL] and have a maximum one ship, so yeah, effectively one and only one CV/L there
Similar restriction also apply to Yoshimaru
sleek patrol
For Kizuna Ai event (Virtual Connection Synchronicity), there doesn't appear to be any mention of there being gear skins available for the event, nor that skin boxes were actually droppable from some maps (at the very least SP4). Is there any benefit for including such, for the sake of completeness?
I ask because I was curious if there was a chance that bosses from current event would drop the current event's gear boxes, but then saw that I couldn't 100% determine that from the wiki, due to prior events not showing such as a positive scenario
sleek patrol
I...know that?
uneven quarry
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Equipment_Skins @sleek patrol
We have the list
Also
untold siren
But thaats not really what was asked. The question was about adding it to listed drop pools.
sleek patrol
Mostly it was "On the Kizuna event page, see that there were Kizuna skin boxes, and that the bosses dropped them". It makes sense the contents would still beon that page in a form
quasi arch
formidable has some extra voice lines that are unlocked on oath (or max affection, cant tell)
they're alternate versions for certain lines, labeled EX:
Log in: "Commander, you're uncharacteristically punctual today" versus Log in EX: "You're late, Commander. I've been waiting for ages!"
View details EX: The posters on the walls are all my favourite rock stars. I don't usually let anyone see them. You're a special exception, Commander~
Main screen 1 EX: That Ajax, she saw straight through me right away... And yet, I think we get along rather well. I've learned a lot from her.
Main screen 2 EX: Haah... I'm back. Those tea parties have some delicious snacks, sure, but they're so dreadfully uptight about bearing and deportment.... Hehehe, Commander, would you mind helping me with my shoes?
Main screen 3 EX: Commander, which of my sisters is more your type? The sweet and gentle Illustrious, or the passionate Victorious?
Normal touch EX: Commander, don't you think Veneto looks a bit dim, cool as she might be?
Special Touch EX: Commander, should I be angry? Positively inconsolable?
Mission reminder EX: Big Brother, I finished organizing your mission list ♪ ... Hehe, is that your type, Commander?
Mission complete EX: Commander, do you want your mission rewards or do you want me? You have to choose! ... Hehe, just kidding~
Mail reminder EX: Commander, the mail is here. Would you mind getting it yourself?
Return to port EX: Commander, I'm going to catch a few winks on the sofa here. Wake me up if anyone comes calling.
Commission complete EX: Ding dong ding dong ♪ incoming message from Formidable: Commission complete. Repeat. Commission complete.
quasi arch
what other cases are there? 
safe mural
We are aware the skins section is behind/broken intermittently, I'm working on it
safe mural
The bottom looks ugly, but if I've missed any skins/something is inaccurate, please ping me. We are working on adding the event to the skin currently, but otherwise this is completed for now 
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Category:Skins
leaden raven
The icons on event maps d3
"Empyreal Tragicomedy" event
uneven quarry
@leaden raven its fine for me
safe mural
Pretty sure that’s cuz Nyan updated it
pallid frost
That's not fine at all 
The problem is still there, line break is still wrong
uneven quarry
Is it cuz the mobile view
pallid frost
Narrower screen. The "Stats Restriction" is just a text, so your browser might break it at unfortunate position
sleek patrol
With the overhaul to the Chapter/World pages for changing the look, did ya'll make it so that all the XP values were the base amounts, excluding the 1.2x bonus for S-rank?
pallid frost
XP values are base XP
wicked sequoia
so i was reading Formidable's quote in wiki. what is this extra dialogue , how do you unlock them
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Formidable/Quotes#English_Server
sorry if this is the wrong channel to ask
obtuse zenith
They're unlocked after oathing
Well, it is not the exact place to ask, but you asked already 
wicked sequoia
ic ic. where can i ask about this just in case
hexed kite
just a heads up, but on the list of battleship guns page the description on armor break doesnt match how it functions according to combat page
just letting whoever know so it can get updated
obtuse zenith
fixed
fresh storm
There an error on Conte di Cavour map drops written in the wiki, where the map B3 was probably forgotten
/wiki Empyreal_Tragicomedy
plush hemlockBOT
fresh storm
actually yeah, it is forgotten under "Event Ships" but is present lower under "Event Maps"
obtuse zenith
Fixed, thanks
hardy hull
Scherzo page https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Scherzo_of_Iron_and_Blood missing link to event's story
sage basin
hardy hull
Also some memories have quotation marks in their page names, which is, while not that big of a deal, since you can see them, seems weird and more difficult to find
especially since event itself doesn't have them
sage basin
added Memories link for Scherzo
uneven quarry
sleek patrol
SP Stage doesn't list who the boss is
obtuse zenith
i forgot, fixed
fierce remnant
hello, this on Empyreal Tragicomedy is missing additional points on A2, A3 and C3 for base survival (C3 is same 6-15 points as on C2, A2 and A3 are 2-5 points)
obtuse zenith
fixed
uneven quarry
golden locust
"Cannot be constructed" is missing 
obtuse zenith
fixed
somber gulch
San Diego barrage skill missing from list?
safe mural
somber gulch
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Barrage
This list
safe mural
If anyone sees any missing retros or skins from the page ping me 
uneven quarry
I havent input her to the barrage page...
nocturne loom
the launch cooldown of formidable is :
(((((11.76 * 2) + (9.88 * 6) + (10.21 * 6) ) / (0 + 2 + 6)) * 2.2 * sqrt(200/(100 + 100 * 1))) + 0.1 ?
i think i'm wrong, i need help 
i use the formula on the wiki but looks wrong 
safe mural
I like that frog emote
safe mural
I don't do math
@hollow rock pls help this young man(?)
give me your frog emote tho
nocturne loom
hollow rock
you want to calculate the launch cooldown?
safe mural
for making me cry earlier fufufufu 
hollow rock
i'll have a look since you got such a nice avatar
safe mural
🐸
safe mural
a new frog emote
nocturne loom
somber gulch
@nocturne loom There's some guy on reddit with a neat spreadsheet you can make a copy of, there's a tab in which you plug in numbers and it pops out the cooldown, I can get you a link
somber gulch
Oh ps.
safe mural
somber gulch
Don't, I'm author and since I used to use it for myself, I didn't bother validating before yesterday
safe mural
i
somber gulch
Or I could just write somewhere "Still validating", basic stuff works though
nocturne loom
alright, i'll try your doc
hollow rock
i'm just not sure about the number of plans you provided
safe mural
Kroyer is alive
hollow rock
planes*
nocturne loom
i saw the number here
"Has a 2/0/6 or 0/2/6 loadout."
the first is for fighter
the second for dive
nocturne loom
same but people said it take the +1 of the fighter
shell hawk
It is
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I summoned Ender of despair
nocturne loom
nocturne loom
those bastards lied to me
shell hawk
No reason why number should change just because the slot properties were changed unless specified
shell hawk
No, it's 2/0/6 or 0/2/6
nocturne loom
ah ok right
ember plover
Looks like after update Zara gun damage was increased by 1
quaint stream
@nocturne loom I made a calculator for that btw
https://thebombzen.com/azur-lane-calculators/airstrike-reload.html
hollow rock
let me know what's the result
quaint stream
also each of her TB slots are 3 planes, in case you put two different planes there
(which you frequently do for formiddable)
somber gulch
If only I'd found this one earlier 
quaint stream
I wrote it like, two days ago
hollow rock
23,14225
nocturne loom
quaint stream
what planes were you guys using
quaint stream
reload stat of 117?
quaint stream
also your planecounts are wrong, you have 3 of the second plane and 3 of the third plane
hollow rock
hand methode
hollow rock
(((((11.88 * 2) + (9.88 * 3) + (10.31 * 3) ) / (2+3+3))*2.2*sqrt(200/(100 + 117 * 1)))+0.1)
with 117 it gives
22,363
quaint stream
use ` ` please
quaint stream
looking like it might be some sorta roundoff error 
hollow rock
22,36383245403797621693
it's an exact real number
without rounding
but it's just 0,08 difference so for your purposes wandolf
22s is the answer
quaint stream
yea, I think it's a javascript problem
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quaint stream
@hollow rock calculator works fine, the issue is that you used 9.88 instead of 9.98 as the fairey albacore cooldown
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Fairey_Albacore#Type_3 wiki says it's 9.98
quaint stream
took me a second to realize that, but yea it was just a confusion on the cooldown of the plane itself
both of us did all our mathematics correctly
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eager viper
HELP!!!!
obtuse zenith
why are you here, go to #bug-reports
fickle fern
obtuse zenith
or there
fickle fern
restart phone btw
that fixed that time my game failed to hash check
eager viper
Ops sorry
gentle river
#tech-support is the correct channel
fickle fern
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Memories/Empyreal_Tragicomedy#Japanese_Story
this entire part story is in chinese
like, literally in chinese letter
not japanese
prime notch
yeah the JP version of chapter 20, possibly others, is in chinese
fickle fern
i'm checking each one. the name of characters and title of each cutscene are in japanese
prime notch
looks like from chapter 13 onwards is affected
noble stone
Everything from 13 onward yeah
fickle fern
and prologue/chapter 1 too
wait ,nevermind. me dumb
rugged trellis
they probably fixed that in a later hotfix, EN also got updated chapter 13 onwards in a hotfix
fickle fern
uh, more like someone who fill the japanese text for JP story stopped doing so at chapter 12, and then someone else just copy paste CN words for ch13 to the end.
or maybe some funky input error
noble stone
The script was not done when the event released so it could have been filler from the datamine
rugged trellis
JP and EN both had CN texts for story starting chapter 13 after servers went online already, i only have the hotfix for EN decompiled where they added the english translations and i assume same happened to JP
quaint stream
what's this about EN translation of chapter 13? pretty sure EN doesn't have chapter 13
noble stone
Event story
quaint stream
ah, naruhodo
open carbon
It's possible for a Super Rare cat to start with 2x level 2 talents
waxen nimbus
I just wanted to say, to the people who got the gifs of gun patterns stood up on the wiki page, props to you 
sleek patrol
Oh, that's being intruding introduced to EN wiki?
waxen nimbus
up now
somber gulch
Oh my god it's amazing
sleek patrol
Which page is it? I had interpreted what you said as being ship barrages, but I didn't see that page changed (though maybe cause mobile)
hollow rock
it's volley shape of specific guns on their pages
sleek patrol
Fuck I EN'd hard
somber gulch
Ps. There is a CN page with ship barrages and such
sleek patrol
Oh yeah, I know about that one. I'm just a fan of one stop shops
uneven quarry
@open carbon yes its possible
All is possible but all sr cat will always start with 3 base talent
Like 3 in tier or 3 base
Wait wait wait 4 base??
fierce remnant
Hello, it me again.
In https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/List_of_Furniture_Sets#Slice_of_Sardegna the City Canal is missing note that Two shipgirls can swim via gondola and boat on it
rugged trellis
guess they added a new parameter for this that i didn't notice
@fierce remnant note is added
candid kraken
uh I don't frequent channel and I dunno if suggested before but
easy to see numbers for plane loadouts on CV pages?
I usually count planes using the LB indicators but that seems like it could be made unnecessary
dusty elbow
for example with unicorn it could just say plane loadout: 3/0/3 or something
rugged trellis
afair someone's working on it
abstract basin
mental fractal
I made a script, but it doesn't quite work for CVs with weird secondaries, namely Zeppy and Langley: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/User:Evil4Zerggin/Lua_sandbox#Air_table
sleek patrol
That include Formi now, too?
sage basin
yes 
mental fractal
although there is a slight error in air superiority there since formi will typically run one albacore slightly reducing AVI relative to my assumption of gold barracuda
waxen fjord
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Empyreal_Tragicomedy there is a swap with the skins gems cost:
Trento's Summer's Hotness is listed has 700 
, when its 780.
And Cesare's Fitness Master is listed has 780 , when it's 700 in-game
safe mural
If there's any skins issues please ping me~
safe mural
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Skins Please feel free to give any feedback, especially if any skins are missing
coral anvil
Under version exclusive content, US is missing shangri-la air raid event
safe mural
?
obtuse zenith
what page are you looking at?
hollow rock
servers page?
safe mural
To be fair no one maintains it 
safe mural
Yes I am the one who maintains it 
hollow rock
the skin page should be up to date for the wiki users
safe mural
We aren't moving around the ones in others right now due to the fact it's a mess
coral anvil
Neat
hollow rock
although it's kinda messed up in the backend
coral anvil
Wait sorry I meant weapon skins
rugged trellis
The servers page is usually maintained by me
safe mural
coral anvil
Nobbywobby
rugged trellis
But I'm doing other stuff right now so it falls behind
coral anvil
Ok
safe mural
There's a few skins that are in EN that aren't there, I guess I'll work on it when you're not around
coral anvil
I noticed the ship's from the event were there but not the event itself
rugged trellis
The new skins for seattle, u-47 and yamashiro are missing from en
coral anvil
There's the event that is missing
rugged trellis
Yeah that event kinda fell behind
coral anvil
In what
safe mural
not you
coral anvil
No u
hollow rock
coral anvil
Can I do equipment skins if no one else wants to
coral anvil
Request on the wiki?
coral anvil
Ok
hollow rock
click the request account on top right
fill out the form
and you'll get an account after some time
then you can ask for a wiki role in the discord and get access to wiki team chat
coral anvil
Sweet thanks, I'll request it soom
prime notch
ok i have a weird question
safe mural
We can give a weird answer
hollow rock
only if you give google play gift cards tho
safe mural
Yea 
prime notch
im part of the unofficial #al-lore team, and we have a google doc listing quite abit of the lore
now we would need to make it more professional, but would it be possible to get like a link or a page on the wiki for it? not right now, just thinking about for the future
coral anvil
Can you make it official through yo star request
safe mural
yostar does not host the wiki
prime notch
nope
safe mural
so no
Errr @noble stone would know
They want a lore page at some point, Jif? You're staff so I'll leave this to you
prime notch
the main point of having it on the wiki is not only for easy access for those that want to learn more, but also because we have accounted for the weird EN translations that completely disrupt the original meanings of story dialogue
prime notch
yeah like even in the tragicomedy event, there are parts where a simple google translate of CN and JP result in identical meanings, and then EN says something completely different and in no way related
it really makes our job fun /s
safe mural
... Well, just wait for him
noble stone
That's because JP was rewritten from the CN script and then they went back and rewrote the CN script to be closer to JP (which they normally don't do)
Without submitting updates to us
There are significant enough philosophical differences in approaching lore from CN to JP that I'm probably going to say put it into a user page and base all the lore off of JP only
EN is at the mercy of too many different factors
prime notch
yeah we decided to just see how well the 3 versions agree and then go from there
prime notch
and jp's mistake in ashen is why we have 3 different versions of the story
noble stone
Yeah I was really mad when I saw the JP script
But anyway, JP wants to avoid mentioning things that are done by the Army
So Iris Libre was mostly written out of the event and replaced with the Iron Blood
prime notch
but about the lore doc, do you think its possible to get a link or a page for posting the lore? again, its not a right now thing, its more of just thinking about in the future when our doc is relatively up to date
noble stone
Historically, and in the old CN script, Iris Libre was said to have been dissolved, thus allowing Sardegna to expand through the Mediterranean
And yes you can upload it into a user page and take advantage of the mediawiki formatting and markup
And we can talk more about adopting it into an actual article space
prime notch
ah ok
noble stone
I'm fine with the idea
But just gotta make sure there are appropriate disclaimers to account for differences
prime notch
yeah
but that way its easier for players to see the story without having to spam click all over the memories pages
safe mural
Just go request an account on the wiki and make it on your page for now
Then talk to Jif about it
prime notch
ok, thank you
safe mural
No problem, I'll ask a mod to give you the role once your account is made
Any problems just ping
lean escarp
should I request a role if I've made a account for the wiki?
safe mural
No
If they haven't made the account, aka an email to your account with the password, just wait
so much typing
rugged trellis
if you are going to do some wiki edits or want access to our nice #466119672165695488 channel then you should get the wiki role so we know who to blame when somethings fucked up whe the person is
safe mural
Yeah but he needs to wait until the actual account is made, no?
rugged trellis
not really
safe mural
That's what I heard
rugged trellis
afaik you always get approved
noble stone
We decline a lot of people actually
But if they have talked on discord it's not an issue
fresh storm
Hello, I'd like to know why there is no mention anywhere in the wiki about the currently ongoing Rally Request event ?
This includes the patch notes where it is nowhere to be found.
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HazelLast Wednesday at 5:07 AM
there's no info about the akashi 50+ day returning players stuff, so i'm dropping an album of what all is in it for usage
https://imgur.com/a/fbfcu5d
Imgur
akashi 50 day returning players
credit to syanda for noting what the point accumulation reqs are, most of the daily missions seem like normal daily missions?
Is this what you're talking about?
We currently don't have enough hands on the wiki, so it hasn't been done
Oh, I see what you mean
hold on
It's a known thing
fresh storm
We currently don't have enough hands on the wiki, so it hasn't been done
Was that answer for me ?
safe mural
Yes
fresh storm
Ok, well it may be important as it is clear that most players are confused on how to progress
fresh storm
Yeah same
safe mural
Even our "Would you like a mooncake" page is not up yet
Everyone is quite busy but I will try and ask someone to get it done
fresh storm
Even our "Would you like a mooncake" page is not up yet
but at least it show up in the patch notes
fresh storm
I dont think so
safe mural
There's not much for us to go on then
We only do what the patch notes say
@obtuse zenith you're the EN patch notes I think?
fresh storm
Yeah, it is not in the patch notes in-game ... facepalm
If the patch notes forgot the event, how is anyone supposed to know what has been added, and what and how to do
I'm stuck too, and have been looking over in many channels here why since the wiki doesnt have anything. And I didnt find much >.<
hollow rock
i wanted to do those events
safe mural
do it then brat
hollow rock
but got no time for it
safe mural
Do it for me
obtuse zenith
forgot about nuinui tbh
hollow rock
@quaint stream 
sage basin
@fleet halo
lean escarp
thonks
native dagger
there seems to be some missing voice lines in wiki
enty/amagi interaction line, can't find it in wiki
uneven quarry
hm ill ask the TL/Line part
iron swan
I think I found a line that isn't on the wiki
I'm going to eat lunch, I'll have to test who triggered the line later
The other ships are Monarch, Montpelier, Laffey, Downes
I think it's Enterprise+Monarch, but I'd have to check if it was really Monarch and if it procs with another PR ship
uneven quarry
iron swan
Not Enterprise+Monarch, JB replacing Monarch procced it
I'll have to check different vanguards when I have the chance
But I deffo can't find the line on wiki
May try Enterprise alone on backline too to see if it just needs one other main fleet to proc
pallid frost
That's Anniversary Enty's line with Javelin, Laffey, Ayanami and..... 0LB Z-23 (wtf?)
pallid frost
Also that Akagi reference is also Anniv Enty
Since we don't have anniv skin quotes yet, so yeah, we need to catch up
uneven quarry
ya the biker cant be added yet
iron swan
Huh
My Enterprise is base skin
And yes Laffey is there
So for some reason Annivprise battle lines are getting onto base version
sage basin
bugs?
iron swan
Wrong channel whoops
uneven quarry
safe mural
If anyone has any requests for TL (ships) lemme know~
safe quarry
I noticed something inconsistent with Lime's wiki page
Skill level 3 says "Increase damage dealt to enemy BB, BC, BBV based on Tactics stat" whereas it should be "Increase damage dealt by battleships, battlecruisers, and aviation battleships in the equipped fleet based on Tactics stat."
safe mural
We're in the midst of fixing these pages, it's a bit of a mess
safe quarry
Oh
sleek patrol
On the pages for individual PR ships, there's the section for the unlocks at each meaningful Dev level (5, 10, etc.), but that section does not list the non-mechanical impacts (that is, the lines that get unlocked). Was this intentional, and is there some other page on the wiki that states which lines are unlocked at which levels (as I don't see it mentioned either on the ships' quote pages, nor on the primary Research page)
austere bone
They just get unlocked to replay in the memories section
sleek patrol
So for instance, on Ibuki her Dev15 section includes this
safe mural
If they're not voiced, they won't be on there.
If it's a memory or storyline, then our dataminers should've picked it up
austere bone
They are voiced, it's just you unlocked them to replay in the ship's details section
obtuse zenith
i don't see it as significant enough to mention in the dev pages...
austere bone
Archives section then the pr ships
safe mural
er
If it's already in quotes, then it doesn't really warrant us putting in a side note
austere bone
When you hit 30 you can play the special touch line at any time
safe mural
You can do that with any ship
We don't put the special note, even if it's in archives afterwards.
austere bone
The PRs are the ones that have that setup though
safe mural
You can view any ships lines at any point, if you unlock it, in your archives
austere bone
Although it's kind of like unlocking the affection lines though
safe mural
There's no reason for us to waste the space in the TL notes for that
Or to even do it
obtuse zenith
again, that doesn't seem significant enough to add in either the research page or on the quotes
austere bone
fickle fern
i think the normal page for each PR ships feature what does each milestone of dev level unlock? including which playback iirc
safe mural
again, that doesn't seem significant enough to add in either the research page or on the quotes
fickle fern
well, it doesn't. also, i am wrong on my previous statement
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austere bone
sage basin
we could just add notes in their respective Quotes pages
says this line is unlocked at this Dev level
sage basin
perhaps
uneven quarry
@safe quarry sry just came back 
ill check it now
safe quarry
its okay 
uneven quarry
its done
olive topaz
Add the total gold/resource requirements for retrofits to the shipgirl's wiki page
safe mural
But why
obtuse zenith
Convenience, i guess. There's already a retrofit part on the ship, why not add the totals there too.
untold siren
I mean, we do have the space for it. Quite a bit of unused space above the table
safe mural
then what’s the point of the retrofit page
untold siren
- We dont have a retrofit paage, we have a retrofit section
- For having a catalouge of all the retrofits
untold siren
ones for stats, ones for resources and images man.
Redundancy is not nessacarily a bad thing, especially on this kinda wiki.
safe mural
First off don’t call me man as if I’m stupid. Second off, you said “for catalogue” and I showed you that we have a list of all the ships on now 3 different pages. If we wanna make it on every ship girl then how about you do it?
untold siren
I mean i definitely could, once we are all agreed that its a thing that should, infact, be on the ship pages.
shell hawk
I would suggest y'all discuss this in #466119672165695488 first
untold siren
Prolly a good idea.
pallid frost
hardy hull
Suggestion: can we add fate simulation skills/improvements on PR ships' pages? 
It's kinda inconvenient you need to go to Research page to see them, assuming you even know where to look for them in the first place
unless it's already listed and I'm being completely blind
austere bone
Well aren't the skills that a PR ship has renamed when you complete the Fate Simulation though?
hardy hull
austere bone
You're talking about how when you complete the Fate Simulation they get a skill at the end right? I thought that skill is an upgraded form on one of the skills that they have
hardy hull
it is
austere bone
So instead of going to the research section everytime, you want something like that added to PR ships in the dock section instead or something right? Kind of like how they have a research button when you select them in the dock section
hardy hull
just to be sure - you realize this is wiki feedback? 
I'm asking for whatever skill improvement they get to be listed on ships' page, yes
the most comparable way is how WS changes her retro skill
or possibly sandy
sage basin
austere bone
No I wasn't sure this was the wiki feedback, I thought it was the games feedback, because you know fat thumb syndrome
uneven quarry
bleak charm
I'm not sure if this is wiki feedback or game feedback or not. But in the wiki Matsukaze is listed as in light construction for all servers but I have yet to see a single construction for her and she also isnt listed, again, in the special wish construction which is supposed to list any ships in prior to July 26th. I have been trying to get her again for awhile to be able to retrofit her for that sweet sweet collection %.
sage basin
Matsukaze was added to permanent pool in EN on Sep 19 so pretty recently
sleek patrol
So she wouldn't be eligible for wishing well, as the cutoff date was July 26 or so
bleak charm
Must have forgotten about it
she did always have the check for light construction for all servers tho. Its what threw me off whenever I checked
sage basin
I guess that's an error on our ends then 
fierce remnant
VC Armor Plating and VH Armor Plating is listed as unknown in how to obtain them. They are rewards for Individual Progress in Crosswave event (VC 4k points and boss down to 60%, VH 10k points and boss down to 30%)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/VC_Armor_Plating
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/VH_Armor_Plating
fickle fern
dusky zephyr
why is range different?
the other 2 golden pedo have different range too compared to wiki
pallid frost
Wiki list the actual range the torps can travel, which different to what listed on ingame equipment info
dusky zephyr
oh maybe they should specify that to avoid confusion
pallid frost
I don't even know what is the meaning of range number listed ingame
pallid frost
Yes, the range shown ingame is from equipment file, while how the weapon actually behave is from weapon file
...and how each ammo/bullet/projectile behave is on yet another file....
pallid frost
All torps are manual launch, they don't even need any enemy present at all to shot
sage basin
do you mean, automatic launch?
they are automatically launched regardless of enemy presence?
pallid frost
But autolaunch will just dump everything when their cooldown end (?)
sage basin
this is getting a bit confusing 
sleek patrol
why are are you calling torps 'pedos'
dusky zephyr
why not?
pallid frost
dusky zephyr
i wish there was a stage without enemies 
teal coral
It's about time AL adds a stage that's basically a test dummy
dusky zephyr
i have been using EX as a dummy but now i need an empty one to know if SS attack as soon as you summon them
teal coral
All submarines start to appear as soon as the battle begins, IF you turned on Auto Submarine
When they start to appear, it takes them around 2 seconds before they start launching their torps
pallid frost
Anyway it might be better to list both acquisition and maximum travel ranges, but unfortunately at the moment we're unable to add any more fields to the table
dusky zephyr
ok i did it
they only start shooting when there are enemies within range
gonna try it again and record it
then shoot at 0:05
untold siren
She was about the same distance away from the closest enemy on lens flare and on shooting though, right?
dusky zephyr
dunno about the distance
i just wanted to know if SS start shooting when you summon them or just when there are enemies
coz i'm trying to figure out what is the meaning of "Range" in submarine torpedo description
now that i check the distance on first video, she start shooting from one extreme of the screen to the other
so "Range" is pretty irrelevant (my torpedo was 60 Range) or "Range" is something else
i hate min-maxing in AL
median turret
added yesterday 
wet bison
fixed 
median turret
ty ty ^^
sage basin
prime notch
so on return of the war god memory, https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Memories/The_Return_of_the_War_God , chinese only has the first chapter and japanese has 4
oops wrong image
prime notch
are there chinese versions of the other 3 chapters?
fickle fern
btw, is it a deliberate choice to not show the sprite(sprite cutoff) in scenes where the spire for the talker are in a washed out staticy filter?
like this long speech by richelieu for example
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Memories/Iris_of_Light_and_Dark#Chapter_4
or alabama short lines here
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Memories/Ashen_Simulacrum#Chapter_15
or observer here too
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Memories/Ashen_Simulacrum#Chapter_32
is this because the wiki team doesn't have a good image to represent the ingame sprite condition?
also, on these page https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Memories/Ashen_Simulacrum#Chapter_33
observer zero and ??? (alter enterprise) should be in monochrome color
these part and above/before it should have the image in monochrome/black&white filter
noble stone
Hi are you trolling
fickle fern
no i'm not
i'm legitimately asking a question
i assume the lines where in the game they have a picture of the shipgirls with those effects on them aren't added into the wiki lines because the wiki team can't get a clean picture of it
but i'm asking just to be sure
obtuse zenith
it's more that it's animated is the problem
fickle fern
i see, understandable then
this part is still a legit suggestion btw
these part and above/before it should have the image in monochrome/black&white filter
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484441900531843082/627177473637089281/monochrome_fellows.PNG
obtuse zenith
a static picture for that just doesn't work well when put into the rectangle
fickle fern
aight, as i said, i understand that it's a pain to get an image for that. so i'm mostly asking for the reason (mostly for my own peace of mind admitedly)
obtuse zenith
ah that... the ship is tied to the image
fickle fern
but teh first half (quarter?) of < https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Memories/Ashen_Simulacrum#Chapter_33> spire should be monochrome
as seen here
because it's actually 2 scenes mushed into one. or something like that
obtuse zenith
there's actually an image file that can be used for this
i thought it wasn't in the wiki
oh, there isn't one for observer zero, at least the monochrome one
fickle fern
yeah
i know there's one for alter enterpise it was used in fallen wings
so, is this a legit feedback or am i still 'trolling'?
obtuse zenith
well, you kinda put out too much... a legit feedback for me at least
fickle fern
well, it was 2 thing packed in one time.. so.. it's kinda long (asking about the static-cy image and the ashen one)
obtuse zenith
anyway, only thing i can honestly do something about is enty alter, since there's an image for it
obtuse zenith
damn, true 
must be why dim made it this way
safe mural
Or Nyan you want me to make a mono one?
If you give me the banner I’ll greyscale it
Or we can leave it and do no work 
obtuse zenith
safe mural
fickle fern
my inner story follower side is reeeeing
fickle fern
so.... monochrome observer zero banner for accuracy to game?
fickle fern
ah, i don't understand the statement
sorry
safe mural
fickle fern
I thought that for some reason the baner won't be changed
fickle fern
iunno dude, i'm kinda sleepy and not firing on all cylinder. i am starting to hearing ideas that aren't there
sorry about the misunderstanding btw.
thanks for the fast response
safe mural
Uh... sounds like you should sleep
fickle fern
i shold
obtuse zenith
fixed chapter 33 now
safe mural
Good job Nyan
fickle fern
thank you nyan and mina
open carbon
Crosswave Event enemies are,
Easy: Mutsuki, Nowaki, Yukikaze (Boss)
Normal: Atago, Kagerou, Taihou (Boss)
Hard: Hiei, Yuubari, Suruga (Boss)
Put this info in the same format as the Royal Maids Battle Royale difficulty table please
uneven quarry
fierce remnant
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/War_Archives
VDiR follows CN rules, that's why it needs more runs than JP/EN had during rerun.
Also, VDiR Rerun page has not listed CN number of fights needed on A1 and A2 (5 and 5 respectively)
safe mural
It is a known issue that War Archives is not complete, we do not have enough people currently for this to be fixed right away. I will pass on the notes to the person heading it.
fierce remnant
Also, probably should split between what's archived on EN and JP/CN, so it doesn't invite confusion, so you could add that too to the feedback
uneven quarry
Yes.. We are still working on the page..
safe mural
...Yuki I already handled this.
unborn pine
Yat Sen's first skill, Bond of the Eastern Radiance has grammar issues in comparison to the skill's effect: "When in the same fleet with Ning Hai and/or Ping Hai, reduces their damage and own damage taken by 8% (20%) and increases their Evasion Rate and own Evasion Rate by 15% (30%). "
The original skill effect reads: "When sortied with Ning Hai, Ping Hai, or both, Yat Sen and the aforementioned ship(s) receive the following buffs: decreases DMG taken by 20.0% and increases Evasion Rate by 30.0%".
The current wiki wording indicates that it reduces Ning/Ping's damage specifically and not damage taken.
Bismarck's second skill in the EN client is "Unwavering Strength", but the wiki reads "Unyielding Power". Not sure if direct JP translation instead of the EN client name.
safe mural
We use JP skill name I believe.
fickle fern
isn't it better to use the EN name when the ship in question comes to EN?
safe mural
@noble stone cough
woven bluff
I agree about using names as it appears on the EN version, since the wiki's primary audience is also probably playing the EN version of the game
safe mural
This has been an ongoing discussion for a long time and I can’t remember why but I don’t think they’re changing it.
woven bluff
I see. Well, I guess there were good reasons for it to be this way
noble stone
Yes use EN version instead of fan translation but make sure to leave the original CN/JP text because there are often significant differences between the two
safe mural
@unborn pine It specifically says "reduces their damage and own damage taken by 8%" The wording is fine?
I fixed the name of the skill, but not fixing the rest as it's fine.
wet bison
Is it possible that this phrase could be interpreted as both
- "reduces (their damage) and (own damage taken)" (Yoji's version) and
- "reduces (their damage) and (own damage) taken" (Helena's version)?
wet bison
I tend to make these kinds of mistakes unless I double check when I re-read and consider all possible word groupings.
safe mural
I mean as a native speaker of English, it seems fine to me?
wet bison
Well, I'm not, so I can see how it might be interpreted in more than one way
safe mural
If it's the text from the JP version should we really be changing it?
wet bison
But it if's fine from a native English speaker's PoV, then it's ok?
safe mural
wet bison
Well, it's a translation
safe mural
I mean we could edit it, but it looked fine to me. If you wanna make it easier for non-natives to read, go ahead
but I wouldn't know how to edit it
hollow rock
safe mural
English is dumb enough that I've just given into the wording being dumb
wet bison
I would just make it "reduces their damage taken and own damage taken" if we were to preserve the original text as much as possible
safe mural
Hold on.
wet bison
with a non-ambiguous "reduces (their damage taken) and (own damage taken)" word grouping
safe mural
When in the same fleet with Ning Hai and/or Ping Hai, reduces their and own damage taken by 8% (20%) and increases their Evasion Rate and own Evasion Rate by 15% (30%).
wet bison
or just take the laconic version Yoji posted
wet bison
Err, that worked too
safe mural
Does it make sense as non-native
hollow rock
This should be discussed in Wiki chat
safe mural
Shut up you
@unborn pine It has been fixed, I did not realize it was confusing for non-natives. Thanks Oxide
unborn pine
I am a native speaker of English and the grammar with the previous wording was wrong, which is why I suggested it be fixed since it could be easily misinterpreted by both native and non-native. Glad it's fixed, as I personally misinterpreted the effect of the skill due to the wording here.
sage basin
safe mural
...It was fine the way it was in English but ok. I already fixed it.
fickle fern
I'm... I actually meant the name of the skill... But okay.
quaint stream
is there a way to get everyone's quotes without me manually scraping every quotes page
mental fractal
you could try scraping the source code instead
quaint stream
yeah but last time I checked it doesn't have an API for that
right now I just do http request to the page
mental fractal
it's lua, you can find libraries to load it into the programming language of your choice
i used lupa to load it into python
prime notch
do you mean source code as in straight from the game?
mental fractal
there are decompiles on github
prime notch
so you have a table for everything but the quotes?
mental fractal
i don't have quotes specifically, but i seem to remember them being in the source somewhere
pallid frost
It's there in the source
prime notch
i meant on the wiki
pallid frost
No, at least not in a single page
mental fractal
we should just upload the source files as wiki lua modules
pallid frost
there's 2MiB limit for page size
mental fractal
still enough to hold ship_skin_words.lua
sage basin
fierce remnant
As per JP twitter, this auxiliary will be available in core data shop (afaik not on EN though) https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Seal_of_the_Four_Gods
fleet halo
ya will be in jp in 2 hr 
shell hawk
I still maintain this thing is a brave frontier reference
pallid frost
MFW forgot how to calculate PR ship stats 
candid kraken
https://i.imgur.com/qeaHPqY.png
there are three entries for warspite, one of which is the red skill that gets replaced by the retrofit version
all three are named divine marksman atm
Reduces the Dispersion of equipped main gun by 0.5 (5). Increases own Firepower by 3% (15%) and hit rate against Destroyers by 3% (15%).
should be the yellow one and should be named 'Royal Legend' or something along those lines https://i.imgur.com/AgZOMa3.png
Divine Marksman Plus should be red, not yellow
uneven quarry
lol ya i saw ardwar fixed it too
past marten
the wiki main page is displaying phone layout to my browser, it was fine yesterday and it's only the main page doing it
safe mural
just press desktop view at the bottom
past marten
weird, why is it defaulting to that with no cookies?
uneven quarry
if you alr open it once with desktop view and just exit and enter again without creating new tab the desktop view will always active
safe mural
Dunno, mediawiki things.
uneven quarry
isnt more chrome thing?
mild halo
Yeah even worse than the missing AA value bonus on guns few months ago..
mild halo
Ayy thx guys
fierce remnant
Hello, it me again
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Research#Direct_stat_bonuses is missing Bache and Black Prince bonuses.
Bache: DD, Collection bonus +1HP, Level 120 +1AA
Black Prince: no idea since I don't own her yet CL, Collection bonus +1HP, Level 120 +1AA (as per her wiki page)
obtuse zenith
fixed
sleek patrol
Is something like this just an inherent shortcoming in Wikimedia?
safe mural
Press desktop view
sleek patrol
I mean, I know how it can be gotten around, but that's an objectively bad mobile experience
rugged trellis
@sleek patrol are you on an iphone
sleek patrol
Nope, Google pixel XL
sleek patrol
Chrome
rugged trellis
weird i only know this issue happening on iphone in safari
i could try if i can set the background to white for overflowing content on mobile
fleet halo
happen on my chrome android also
i just dont use it
rugged trellis
sleek patrol
It's also persisting which subsections I had expanded when I reload / revisit the page. But that's a bit more minor.
rugged trellis
with the next css update its adding a rule to make the background white for the whole document, that should fix it
sleek patrol
Appreciated!
uncut cape
Quick question:
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Ship_Drop_Table lacks a key explaining what each letter in the construction column represents. What are they supposed to be? I assume L/H are Light and Heavy, but no clue what A, M, V, X, or O are meant to be.
safe mural
If you hover it, it says it.
uncut cape
I primarily use mobile, which I can’t hover on.
safe mural
Light, heavy, aviation, limited, event, exchange, other
I believe someone is already working on this, but I will ask
uncut cape
Thank you!
As feedback, I feel some pages could be more phone friendly. But if it’s already being worked on, then thank you anyway!
uncut cape
Tapping doesn’t work for that table, sadly
safe mural
... 
I'll pass along that
What happens if you click the checkmarks in the actual table?
uncut cape
Also nothing. I can highlight each thing, but tapping doesn’t do anything
uncut cape
[iphone 8, iOS 12.2]
In case it’s a version thing
safe mural
@rugged trellis aren't you working on this or @pallid frost
Lemme check, I have the same phone
...
You could try and use desktop version on your phone?
Scroll to the very bottom and it should be there
...still doesn't work
o it does
it just takes... a bit
Yeah it works on desktop but I can ask someone to ahem make it more friendly
uncut cape
Hey that works! Yep. Slow but desktop mode makes their notes able to appear
safe mural
I'll pass along the notes but thankfully it should work for you in the meantime :)
uncut cape
Thank you very much for the help, Helena!
safe mural
No problem, feel free to ping me or PM me with anything else~
uncut cape
Oh that reminds me: I screenshot literally everything. I have no computer, but once I dig through my 16,000 photos (literally) I may have clearer images for the event icons on pages like the horribly pixelated 
or the stamp
uncut cape
They’d have to be edited by someone but I love taking shots of everything in games
safe mural
Or is that for discord emotes?
safe mural
We have a high res one ... I thought
rugged trellis
did you take the original file or a thumbnail version
uncut cape
Oh! Stamp didn’t have a link option when I held it likevthe others did
Same for Sardegna
Not like it’s a huge deal
safe mural
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uncut cape
I made emotes of all the event icons I could find today x3
safe mural
uncut cape
Thank you!
safe mural
Safe travels, Commander
feel free to ping if you have anymore, I usually am awake at all hours 
uncut cape
Good to know; I’m on if there’s WiFi!
Omg you have gifs of the bullet patterns. I grabbed a phone screen video app for that x3 man I overthought that
safe mural
uncut cape
I apologize for another question, especially if the answer is maybe obvious:
Is there an old files page, too, or do you simply destroy old unused files?
Like is there anywhere on the wiki with the old 
or 
files?
I ask if there’s another database simply because the one I was linked is called NewFiles
rugged trellis
when you click on the current file in the file list, it lists the old versions there
for example for this file https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/File:DD_img.png
it shows that file history
oh and its called newfiles because it lists the files sorted by upload date, you can potentially go back to the first uploaded file
uncut cape
Somehow didn’t receive these notifications. But thank you! First time digging through a wiki, so even finding the destroyer file was hard for me before you linked the special page.
This is a huge help!
uncut cape
Only thing to note is that the old CL doesn’t seem to exist. At least not as “C,” “CL,” or a “Light” or “Cruiser,” and not misplaced in other class histories.
Not that it’s a huge deal since they’re unused now, but just thought I’d let you know :3
Glad I have a blurry version of it at least 
from when I saved them all incorrectly a while back
Anyway, thank you both for the tremendous aid today
rugged trellis
yeah looks like that one got lost
sleek patrol
The most recent EN patchnotes on the Wiki seem to have lost the new permanent construction ships that were added
sleek patrol
sleek patrol
I have some feedback on some of the ships from DC/Opposite-Colored, because they seem to be a bit inconsistent.
Admiral Hipper, Tirpitz, Graf Zeppelin, and Z46 are all listed on their pages as being from Divergent Chessboard.
Deutschland, however, is listed as being from Opposite-Colored and its Rerun
U-47 has no "Additional Notes" section on her page at all, only showing she's in Special build for JP/CN (same for U-557)
Scharnhorst/Gneisenau list all 3 flavors of DC/OC/OC:Rerun, as well as Scherzo, individually
The lower rarity ships from those events are also inconsistent per one of the above patterns
Finally: Tirpitz for some wild reason is listed as being on the Exchange
obtuse zenith
so many
sleek patrol
On a related note: The original OC page only lists Graf Zeppelin / Z46 / Hipper at the top, and while i now realize that that's just for the construction ships, per other event layouts I thought that meant they were the only ships at all in that event
rugged trellis
original OC was so long ago, so formatting is quite different from the newer pages
sleek patrol
I've no doubt. And I'm sure ya'll have a fun backlog of stuff to work on as-is
sage basin
you mean we already have one 
sleek patrol
I'm assuming, I'unno
obtuse zenith
fixed
foggy ore
Does the Wiki contain any info on the Rally Request tasks up till phase 30?
rugged trellis
currently not
pallid frost
There's only 14 task
ember linden
uneven quarry
👍
rugged charm
hey guys, i found a missmatch between your texts, is nothing major but ill just point it out, some pages in the "meowfficers" page show a talent named "Artillery rookie main" as "Artillery Rookie Battleship" when thats 2 totally diferent talents u guys also have "Rookie officer battleship" wich is why i think you guys misstyped it, here is an example
rugged charm
you can check it in the talent pages and hten if you open a meowfficer like oscar where you can see his base talents is misstyped
i am unsure about other cats since i only noticed it on oscar
uneven quarry
yea mb
rugged charm
by the way are you guys planning on adding the "base starting talents" to the other rarity cats or they dont have them like the SR coutnerparts? (unsure if i should ask this here or not)
rugged charm
ah no worries, i jsut wanted to be sure if htey had them aswell or not, thank you for the info
odd meteor
So... My Japanese is far from perfect, but I believe that the sound preview of Enterprise's additional voice lines 9 and 10 were accidentally switched
wet bison
yeah, it's under EN lines
it is switched for some reason in the game files themselves
which means the game itself with play the correct audio, but show the wrong voice line in those 2 cases
wet bison
scratch that, the game does actually show the correct line for both cases, but doesn't play the audio
wet herald
Should be 爸爸妈妈 not 耙耙麻麻
wet herald
Yes
wet herald
Evidence
sage basin
gonna check if this is the actual text in ALCN
pallid frost
who is that?
sage basin
just got confirmation that this is actual text in ALCN
Mutsuki's Acquisition line
also confirmed that the Chinese is super dodgy here
fleet halo
i would assume placeholder? 
sage basin
I can't fix it right away though
sage basin
fixed
noble stone
Mutsuki has a speech impediment
loud rock
huh
uneven quarry
remote hornet
I’m a little confused about the wiki. This isn’t necessarily feedback I may just be completely ignorant about it. Does it not work in America or with Firefox and Safari browsers? I am unable to even access the wiki and I’m not sure why I just can’t connect to it.
sage basin
in which American region are you living in?
remote hornet
The southern area near Illinois
United States sorry I just say America unless I need to refer to North America as a whole
sage basin
alright, lemme see
remote hornet
sage basin
@remote hornet can you DM me your external IP? You can check it using whatismyip.com
remote hornet
sage basin
remote hornet
I thought I was lol
I don’t use discord that often so I thought it was on their profile 
uneven quarry
remote hornet
safe mural
I’m in the US and able to connect on both, I wonder what’s going on
remote hornet
Hammann does not know either 
remote hornet
Not on my phone or PC I probably should have mentioned that an hour ago
remote hornet
AL specific or just any Wiki
safe mural
Try GFL
remote hornet
Because any other wiki works
safe mural
Ping it on cmd prompt just the ip
remote hornet
I’ve tried the router thing before didn’t help :/
safe mural
What type of phone? iPhone or android?
remote hornet
I don’t have s phone plan at the moment so it doesn’t have WiFi
safe mural
Ooooo
remote hornet
iPhone 5s
safe mural
Hmmmmmm....
Have you tried restarting comp and phone? And are you sure you’re using the right link? What’s the error message?
remote hornet
I don’t really get one it just doesn’t connect to a server
And sadly no restarting my PC and Phone do not fix it :/
safe mural
It definitely sounds like your internet but I’m not sure how to fix it
remote hornet
I don’t know what that is...
remote hornet
Yeah I’m not a pc guy I don’t know what that is type it where?
safe mural
Type command prompt in the start menu
safe mural
Send it to me or Nobby
sage basin
wiki owner just checked your IP, you are not banned from wiki or anything
the problem must be related to sth else
remote hornet
These are dark times 
safe mural
@rugged trellis check your inbox I’m about to drive to work
fierce remnant
Hello, it me again.
On Unicorn page the Lunar New Year skin is named "Spring's Present" while in-game on EN version and in the gallery subpage it's properly named "The Gift of Spring"
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Unicorn
Oh, and same issue with date skin
safe mural