and i got +25 only. which means +28 (in wiki) is wrong
#wiki-feedback
vivid tinsel
obtuse zenith
fixed
vivid tinsel
oh cool 
thick juniper
@stone nova oh ye
keen halo
In the https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Chapter_3
3-3 and 3-4 needs 3 boss kills to clear
sleek patrol
On the Research Academy page, the following section exists:
I wanted to check: Is this implying that you can sometimes get these as rewards in weird places (such as a project which normally does not reward Gold Equipment BPs might randomly drop one of those), or just that those are added to the reward pool as exclusive ways to get these?
Basically, we have some weird data points in the Research Project results, and I"m curious if it was somehow possible that on a run of C-153-MI (which should only reward ships BPs / gold PR BPs / Purple EQ BPs), that we might have somehow gotten a Reppuu BP
stone nova
Euno is now also helping logging along with some sheet maintnence now as well
mental fractal
Is this implying that you can sometimes get these as rewards in weird places (such as a project which normally does not reward Gold Equipment BPs might randomly drop one of those), or just that those are added to the reward pool as exclusive ways to get these?
AFAICT they are in the pools just like any other non-prototype equipment design of the same rarity. So I don't think gold Reppuu would drop from C-153-MI, but the purple 550 mm torp might. But I don't know for absolute sure since I'm on EN.
stone nova
ok, thanks.
sleek patrol
Appreciate the feedback.
round cedar
Why doesn't the wiki have English ship lines? It only has the Chinese and Japanese ship lines and the English translation for them, but not the English lines as they appear in the game.
fleet halo
we plan on adding the en lines also
but currently we are moving all lines to a separate page to decrease page load on ship pages
so stay tuned
round cedar
Ok thanks
sage basin
what were you searching for 
jagged lantern
kizuna but mistyped as ki<una on nordic layout
prime notch
we have found a way in
rotund lintel
hacker voice we're in
wheat needle
inb4 sql injection... hmm, looks like the same query works fine on mediawiki's site...
jagged lantern
I'm guessing some update didn't get installed properly
gentle river
theyre set properly 
quaint stream
it seems that characters like < , ', ( will trigger this bug
prime notch
scripts would help with avoiding that 
stone nova
This needs to be updated
orchid charm
proof:
stone nova
It's actually the case on a lot of AA guns. Haven't checked all of them but all the ones I have have an X for heavy cruisers.
orchid charm
probably just the auto-fill or sth ๐
quaint wigeon
@orchid charm have you found anything she can't equip yet?
what do your aux options look like
quaint wigeon
wait she can equip torps
orchid charm
yeah, very weird...
quaint wigeon
she can't equip torp launchers though
orchid charm
quaint wigeon
right....?
orchid charm
right
stone nova
Wait why can azuma equip oxytorps but KagaBB can't? KagaBB even has torps! 
orchid charm
but gunboats like cleveland and wichita can also use oxy torps so... no that a big surprise....
quaint wigeon
wait really?
orchid charm
yeah...
wheat needle
Yeah, I think the suggestion is already in Trello for backlines to be able to equip oxy torp
orchid charm
that would be really nice for hard modes
quaint wigeon
wtf
wheat needle
The AA is auto fill though, she's a unique brand new Hull class so all the AA guns will need to be updated
quaint wigeon
I can go change that right now.
Also turns out ships with sonar but no depth charge will still launch a depth charge.
orchid charm
emmm, does that ship need a sonar or just a sonar in the team?
shell hawk
It acts like an sg radar in a sense, only one is needed really
quaint wigeon
it's w3 so ignore the empty slot, just testing shit
shell hawk
And yes they do have stock depth charges
Carriers will also drop stock bombs if none of their planes can drop bombs (TBs and Me155s for example)
quaint wigeon
It doesn't do a lot
shell hawk
It's as good as a T1 +0 charge
quaint wigeon
too wordy or good enough>
stone nova
Looks good to me
pastel sable
Vengeful Strike - Once per battle, recover 15% (25%) of max health when health falls below 20%. Invoke an airstrike upon receiving damage, limited to once every 20 seconds. (barrage is affected by skill level)
For yorktown skill description, (barrage) is used. https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Yorktown
quaint wigeon
what is the issue?
It should read "Airstrike is affected by skill level", correct?
Is it a barrage or airstrike
pastel sable
It's an airstrike, just called a barrage.
(barrage is affected by skill level) should be (airstrike is affected by skill level) , at least from wiki's standards.
quaint wigeon
I'll make the change.
pastel sable
Think it's the same on the skill page
(Airstike is affected by skill level) was the edit, typo on Airstike, sorry to impose, should be Airstrike
quaint wigeon
It doesn't look like I can edit that table 
left cliff
@quaint wigeon if you got no Depth Charge equipped, it will default to the one-star single launcher - everything else is basically just an upgrade
same works with other gear, too - send a DD without torps and it'll get the weak 2 torp launcher
quaint wigeon
I've already noted that on the wiki
left cliff
for the drop note, I'd say the first sentence is enough
sleek patrol
For Kizuna DD, is there any value in listing the exact % chance for the various level of enemy buff/debuff? Like, on WiS's ship writeup he puts it at 35% / 35% / 18% / 12% chance for -8% / -6% / -4% / +4% to enemy stats. (Assuming those numbers can be verified).
At present, the skill reads "decrease all enemies' [skills] by a large amount... Also has a small chance to accidentally increase [them] instead."
sage basin
quaint stream
Well in game there is no numbers or anything that could tell you any of that so we will need some sort of proof from where he got those numbers from before we can put them on the wiki 
Im sure it must have come from some dataminer spreadsheet or something
prime notch
do we even KNOW enemy stats?
quaint stream
Those have been datamined im sure and are out there somewhere, HP and stuff we for sure can find and the other stuff can be calculated
It would just take a little time, patience and the games calculation formulas
shell hawk
I can't recall where wis got the numbers, lemme just check my message logs
Hmm Enbayft just said the numbers, so I'm gonna guess it was either from NGA or CN wiki
elder locust
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Binary102/AzurLane_ClientSource/master/Src/JP/gamecfg/buff/buff_104012.lua
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Binary102/AzurLane_ClientSource/master/Src/JP/gamecfg/buff/buff_104013.lua
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Binary102/AzurLane_ClientSource/master/Src/JP/gamecfg/buff/buff_104014.lua
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Binary102/AzurLane_ClientSource/master/Src/JP/gamecfg/buff/buff_104015.lua
pick your poison 
sleek patrol
For context, what is NGA?
shell hawk
It's where a lot of the glorious CN data mines come from
It's more of a forum really
But usually information that comes from there is very reliable
sleek patrol
What's the actual 3-letter acronym meaning?
elder locust
Except when they forget how AA guns work 
shell hawk
Let's be honest here, AA is a bloody nightmare that no one fully understands
I have no idea what NGA stands for
It's literally called NGA
Also I don't really read chinese
sleek patrol
Fair enough. Thanks for the info.
prime notch
when do we get the luck datamines
i wanna build my fleet building program but luck is literally the most important stat and we cant even CALCULATE it
fleet halo
we have luck on the wiki though?
prime notch
we do?
elder locust
prime notch
oh it must have been added fairly recently then
shell hawk
Both hit and luck were added to wiki before AL made luck visible in game
fleet halo
gentle river
before
shell hawk
Must I get the patch notes?
fleet halo
en got luck also 
prime notch
the only problem with making program is figuring out how to turn skills into numbers
especially things like chances to spawn shields
rugged trellis
if you want to deal with lua, you could get it from the game files
quaint stream
NGA stands for National Geography of Azeroth
I was originally a forum for world of warcraft
sleek patrol
Fascinating
prime notch
i mean i dont really want to make the entire game from scratch just so we have calculations
compact night
minor issue on the individual pages of submarine torpedoes. Submarine carriers should be able to equip the same torpedoes
this page for example https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Submarine-mounted_550mm_24V_Torpedo
dense fulcrum
On USS Georgiaโs page she makes references to cola and peaches. Coke was created in Georgia and peaches are the state fruit. The grand tour she talks about might reference the real USS Georgia that went with the great white fleet.
sage basin
I'm sure this is not the first time such references for Georgia are suggested 
hardy hull
I know you wanted to remove all the mouse-over tooltips so mobile can actually read them. Will you do the same for "Boss-only" ones?
sleek patrol
It seems on discord, that people refer to maps with the word "World" instead of "Chapter" (e.g. "Go farm World 6 (w6) for purple plates"). While I understand that "Chapter" is the official wording used in the game, is there any benefit in having "World" be a recognized word in the wiki's search engine for finding chapter entries?
Basically, I was a dumb this morning, searched for "World 9", and was very confused why I wasn't finding any wiki pages for it until I realized my mistake
rugged trellis
We could add redirects for it
pastel sable
Looking at the wiki for references, for Ryuujou's Manjuu, Cat, Little Owl! skill, it notes CVL, but looking in game and at original text they seem to indicate both light and regular carriers?
actually, wait - it does indicate the two, but the ingame one lacks the distinction that the RLD is for only CVL's.
I'll need to confirm that with TL's
rigid linden
thick juniper
updated @rigid linden
fiery igloo
Z46's torpedo?
quaint wigeon
What about Z46's torpedo?
Z46 has a similar barrage style to Yuudachi, where she fires many bullets with a few torps.
wet bison
I think it's about Z46's torpedo barrage absent in the table
quaint wigeon
Just noticed that ๐
lunar relic
Update is dead...again
rugged trellis
wrong channel #gameplay-help #tech-support
lunar relic
Ok
topaz plank
This is the list of materials you'd need to retrofit sandy - but weren't there the microphone and more sandys needed?
proven raft
I remember there was 2 more sandy, one on the skill and one on the start of the retrofit
There isn't the boss node in D5 in the wiki (6-5)
cinder willow
There is now 
sage basin
did you change Sandy page or 6-5 page
cinder willow
6-5
sage basin
alright, gonna fix Sandy page
cinder willow
No Sandy retrofit on EN so can't confirm the requirements
sage basin
no need to confirm, just compare with an older version
topaz plank
proven raft
It wasn't me, just saying I remembered to see 2 more sandy required for the retro
topaz plank
I recall it to be different as well at some point, yeah
sage basin
we had a big edit session earlier to remove old Quotes, and apparently it also removed the Sandy dupes/unique material 
fixed kind of
proven raft
Subs spawn in those circles (4-5)
obtuse zenith
fixed
quaint stream
shouldn't it be Leander class and not leader class?
left cliff
yes, yes it should
quaint stream
not really game breaking or anything but it always bothered me
wheat needle
looks like that is on a ship page, which is it?
proven raft
Karlsruhe
wheat needle
updated, thanks!
proven raft
np
final quiver
You guys got the map 10-1 gear drops wrong
quaint stream
@final quiver Fixed
dawn canopy
I see in the wiki that you need 5 ships designed by Kaede to trigger the quote that says "Sisters from the Kaede army, fight!". But, I took only Javelin, Rodney, Lusty, and Vicky (4 Kaede ships) earlier, and it's enough to trigger the quote during boss fight. Just giving some feedback in case you're interested to add it to wiki.
Here's the SS for that
dawn canopy
oh, that was Javelin only. Haven't tested the other three
sage basin
alright, got it
split creek
This guide should probably have the BiS and second BiS as first and second places, it can confuse people when BiS is on second or third spots with no clear indication that they're the BiS. Also twin 127 has 15 dmg not 14
rugged trellis
@thick juniper
indigo nebula
On the entry for the item Unfulfilled Promise, the text on the certificate actually states the tonnage of the respective ships in brackets (500 tonnes for the U-boat, 42,000 tonnes for the Bismarck) and was part of the humor.
Can this be added?
daring lark
why "only"
quaint wigeon
These ships are only available through drop
daring lark
ic
quaint wigeon
and those are the maps and nodes they are available through
austere bone
So wait, the rabbits come back in ch 13 too?
obtuse zenith
Yes, they're also ship drops there
quartz hemlock
(king goerge V) SARDINIA??
sage basin
not the first time Sardinia is mentioned though
fleet halo
@quartz hemlock it is the italy faction that's coming later
quartz hemlock
yeahhh
deft fog
rip wiki
proven raft
Yeah, it takes ages to load and sometime doesn't even open
lavish wraith
stop overloading it guys 
proven raft
I just wanted to see the new ships
rugged trellis
@proven raft i got you fam
sage basin
goddamnit nobby
proven raft
Thanks
foggy ore
There is a Bug with the Wiki page looking like some cheap site...
nor sure how else to explain it
rugged trellis
you guys are hammering the wiki server so hard right now
foggy ore
Guess, it wasn't my idea to head there to look for Build Times huh :D
rugged trellis
and if you talk about build times for event ships, we don't have them yet
we can only steal them from CN wiki
foggy ore
welp, time to use google translaator
quaint stream
I saw they were posted somewhere, lemme see if I can find it
foggy ore
Alright, much appreciated
shell hawk
bisko was 6h that's all ik
foggy ore
6 hours...wew lad. must be the longest by far
quaint stream
Fuck, they were in the maint channel which is now closed 
shell hawk
hood and jb have the next longest at 5.50
foggy ore
00:00:00 for a ship?
Is this legit, lul
elder locust
means they don't have the data yet
build timers are all server side so people have to document and enter them manually
quaint stream
They have it now:
KGV . 4:50
Z36 . 0:35
U-556 . 0:13
U-73 . 0:11
Echo . 0:28```Oh nice going
quaint stream
Lemme make that look a little nicer
foggy ore
whatever the case, it's fixed now.
Can finally check the detailed build stats to see which build pool i should place as default
rugged trellis
build times are now on the event page, still need to be added to ship pages
turbid cape
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Kinugasa wiki says kinugasa can be build at Heavy and Aviation, but if now in game choose ships to increase chance of build, its no kinugasa at special, only at heavy, so where is right information?
quaint stream
heavy cruisers can be built from special build
turbid cape
aviation build at wiki means special from game, right?
quaint stream
yeah
turbid cape
okay, now i choose ingame special build to increase chance, and there are many heavy cruisers ๐
austere bone
Was wondering when those timers would show up
split creek
Ajax drops, I'll get a screenshot if it drops again.
rugged trellis
for screenshots of drops you just need to click onto the unknown ship on the map overview
stark thorn
Fortune just dropped for me, will get a screen after i finish the mission =.=
Ark Royal just dropped on the A3 boss as well :x
barren blaze
London drop A1
rugged trellis
it looks like all A stages have the same drops
sleek patrol
Has that been the case in previous events? I thought there was at least some slight variation
rugged trellis
that what i think too
barren blaze
Achilles A3
rugged trellis
we are still missing the 5th of the first row and 2nd of 2nd row
rugged trellis
makes sense if there is suffolk
barren blaze
should I send screenshots of equipment drops? I mean they are pretty easy to see tho
median turret
Echo listed as Drop ship on wiki but no maps listed, do we know which maps she drops in yet?
Or i'm assuming that's what everyone is trying to figure out from this chat history lol
rugged trellis
yeah we still don't know
median turret
I shall share my findings if they're an addition from results here, thanks
rugged trellis
the drops i got on C nodes are also the same currently as the A ones
barren blaze
hm got glowworm on C1
rugged trellis
sleek patrol
Echo is probably from the B# / D# maps, which we'll unlock tomorrow
median turret
Most likely, but would be nice to get these ships listed down
barren blaze
It seems c1 switched royal with glow
sleek patrol
It's all going to be enhance & medal fodder anyways 
rugged trellis
so all thats missing is 5th of first row
median turret
Which map? C1?
sleek patrol
Current theory is all the A# maps are identical ship drops, so any of those
barren blaze
and C only switching Ark Royle with Glowworm
median turret
@rugged trellis Is it C1 you mean ?
rugged trellis
now we need confirmation its the same with the A maps
median turret
Normally yeah they're the same, but the ark royal glowworm is strange
barren blaze
it is also possible for another shiped to be switched, I only thought it likely since both of them are SR
median turret
I just got London from C1, so same as A1 there
barren blaze
is london 2nd? then its very likely only Royal was switched
rugged trellis
the only we have no confirmation to be the same is if Juneau drops in A
someone said he got ajax a while back
but no screenshot from him
rugged trellis
so C stages have some differences
median turret
You got Fortune for A1? Info from a friend
barren blaze
yup
median turret
How happy are we with C1, should i keep doing it or move on to C2 ?
rugged trellis
i think we can assume all C drops are the same so just the C stage you want
snow walrus
barren blaze
it seems the first two are different on all maps?
barren blaze
I think the same ships appear on the same number, we have london on both A1 and C1
median turret
Ships 3 and 5 are Fortune Juneau for C1 and C2, Assuming C3 too, so another difference from A
So from that i guess we only care about Rare and Elites. even rares are different, interesting
rugged trellis
except Suffolk and Norfolk apparently
median turret
My goodness XD
sleek patrol
They're the first ships you see in the story. They're the stars!
median turret
York from C2, same as A2
hard bridge
raven cradle
also c3
median turret
Oh Queen E, that's useful
rugged trellis
thats what we currently got
median turret
that's helpful, will look through what i have and ask some friends too
mellow matrix
the first elite for a1 is glowworm
median turret
C1 second Elite is LONDON
Gonna keep running C2 till i get the other Elite
rugged trellis
newer version
fierce remnant
C2: Juno
brazen blade
A3 slot 3 is fortune aswell https://discordapp.com/channels/456397991847395339/484441900531843082/581178732761579540
fleet halo
o for c3 jp though 
rugged trellis
o you got them all
fleet halo
ya farming for kgv
solemn fable
rugged trellis
so added all drops now to the event page, thanks to everybody that helped to collect the drops!
median turret
See you tomorrow for B and D XD
barren blaze
should i post itemsdrop so u can add them?
rugged trellis
item drops are displayed in game so no need to 
molten karma
Has the wrong info for the limit break for the new ships and tirpitz been reported yet?
Multiple of them have the barrag unlock at both lb 1 and 2, and the gun eff total doesn't fit
sleek patrol
On the page for Combat: The image for the Submarine summon button is broken (above Torpedoes / ARtillery / Air Raid, it just has a red "40px" entry instead of an image)
Not sure if that's simply due to the ongoing traffic problems from today or not
sage basin
@molten karma there is?
molten karma
I just check on my pc and it was fixed, checking again on mobile
yep, seems to be a mobile view issue actually
sage basin
so mobile-related huh
molten karma
for laffey too, not just new ships http://puu.sh/DwrTH/fca8d27910.png
now I'm kind of sad that the main gun mount +3 on bismark was just false hopes... it would have been OP
sage basin
don't worry, it should be fixed now
cinder willow
It was my mistake, thanks for reporting 
molten karma
yep, seems to be fine now
I guess it was just a typo in a template or something like that, right?
cinder willow
yup
molten karma
not much else would have affected every single ships, and only in mobile XD
gentle river
im lowkey not familiar with how to edit it since its new, so someone will have to get to that later
wait
I was just pressing the wrong button
sage basin
proven raft
5-5 sub spawn
proven raft
8-5 mobs where I marked (5D is a mistake)
obtuse zenith
fixed both 5-5 and 8-5, thanks
obtuse zenith
finally added event A maps equip bp drops
tired valley
I don't remember doing these two stepsโฆ are they still part of the quest and I just forgot I did them?
sleek patrol
What page is that from? Akashi questline?
tired valley
And these have the same task ID as the "clear Chapter 3 maps on Hard Mode 6 Times."
Yes, Akashi's Impawsible Quest.
wet bison
I do remember them from months ago
as for same task IDs, I think it's a copy-paste error
tired valley
Okay, just my terrible memory when it comes to using the Tech Packs.
I've been stockpiling them for those quests, but I did the later quests and have Akashi now, so I was confused.
As for the copy-paste error, I guess that makes sense. Should still get fixed, though.
sleek patrol
I did her quest either late april or early may, and at that time the tech pack tasks were still there
wet bison
No problem. The quest itself is quite long, so it can be hard to remember it in its entirety.
The task IDs should be fixed now. Thanks for the report
ember linden
Eagle Union in Prince of Wales skill is correct? I wonder why's not Royal Navy.
tired valley
You're quite welcome~, @wet bison.
fleet halo
@ember linden the story is that pow escorted a us president to sign some treaty and that's what her skill is based on
ember linden
@fleet halo ty (bow)
mental fractal
Also, PoW was originally named King Edward VIII, but there was a scandal where the real-life Edward VIII abdicated the throne to marry an American, so she was renamed.
sleek patrol
With the second half unlocked, is there any sort of organized way you'd like reports of ship drops?
rugged trellis
just post a screenshot with the map name
median turret
idk who that is but there she is for an Elite in D1
Also hi, i got time, will continue to feed drops ^^
It's Z1, dropped again lmao
rugged trellis
Here is the spreadsheet i will use, i will also fill with CN wiki data so we can check these too
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JZ0jIt1hR-8JPp05kHsnfFnjRBv4eUnODUPZPet7nBE/edit?usp=sharing
sleek patrol
Z1? Weird!
sleek patrol
Actual piece of feedback: A couple of times the last few days, people have come into help looking for the sub attack range information. May want to move it off of just Itsfyh's user page
rugged trellis
we should have that all on all sub pages (that got updated with it)
sleek patrol
Are you saying that that is the plan, or saying that it should already be that way?
gentle river
I thought we always had it available lol
barren blaze
the problem is that looking for submarines in search brings u nowhere
sleek patrol
AHHHHH, I see. Didn't realize it was a mouseover
rugged trellis
yeah
barren blaze
is Scharnhost a bug? or did they decide to randomly add her? Not that I would mind it tho
rugged trellis
its in there
median turret
Phoenix D1 Confirmed. (clicked too fast)
raven cradle
yeh scharnhost is in d1 just got her
barren blaze
yeah I dont doubt that Scharnhost is there, though im doubting whether thats intentional for EN or not
raven cradle
i mean why not lel just let the ppl who miss chess board to get the ship
sleek patrol
That argument has nothing to do with whether it was intended or not
obtuse zenith
german ship, german event
sleek patrol
Definitely weird if it wasn't, but have they had occasion before where they didn't announce an event ship ahead of time?
barren blaze
Well I'am not sure but is Scharn in perm pool jp? if so it could be they simply used the jp data without editing to much so Scharn is still in drops
rugged trellis
i think they aren't in perma pool in CN/JP
barren blaze
B1
obtuse zenith
d2 drops echo
median rivet
somebody have echo drops updated?
sleek patrol
Got her on B2 (Will post screens in a bit)
sleek patrol
B2
fleet halo
d3 if is still missing
obtuse zenith
i should post my d2 
gentle river
cant u post that in #466119672165695488 ? 
sleek patrol
I'm one of the few tryhards wasting time in normal mode
B3 has toolboxes! I can finally stay away from the foxmines for a while!
obtuse zenith
D2
stark thorn
Looks like all drops are the same EN/CN/JP x.x
rugged trellis
i'll just assume that for now and add them to the wiki, if someone finds a difference because Manjuu/Yostar did a fuckup we can edit later
sleek patrol
B3
wet bison
wait, why are we doing this in the first place?
they are known in game files
wet bison
chapter_template.lua contains the first "item" drop as ship drops
item_data_statistics.lua then contains ship IDs
cross-reference those with ship_data_template.lua or ship_data_statistics.lua and we get a complete ship drop list
elder locust
#JustALThings
rugged trellis
now i'm wondering why we nerver completed all ship drops for events
probably because we only have 2 people that get us the files and ~5 people that slightly understand whats going on there
wet bison
because I never got to complete my script to parse those files and spit wikitext ready for copy and paste
same with node map
sleek patrol
That sounds like something very useful
rugged trellis
yeah i've also wondered why nobody did the node maps
elder locust
Ye just takes time to learn the data and then write a parser to structure it properly for wiki
Time that I haven't had the past few months 
wet bison
well, I did briefly when I joined the wiki team, but that's with empirical data
then I realised they are already there in game files
you now what
I gotta complete that script once and for all
sleek patrol
BTW: Request to update the "EN_Events" page with link to the new one, when ya'll got time
stark thorn
so, if they are in game files you can read them the moment the update hits? x.x
rugged trellis
apparently yes
gentle river
yes!
median turret
No Koln on /dockyard#retrofit table yet ^^
quaint stream
I think there's multiple lua parsing library available for python
rugged trellis
but not to parse AL data
barren blaze
what happened to the ship quest and event memorie page?
final quiver
Is the one in bracket means in clearing mode?
sage basin
...definitely not
final quiver
@sage basin Then what is it?
Also are exp data for D3 out yet
sage basin
after doing some testing, I'm taking my word back
you were right
wet bison
Exp data is out, lemme fill that in
wet bison
Done
sleek patrol
Equipment drops for D2/D3 still need to be listed. As is, it's apparently the case that D2 ONLY drops the Triple 406mm, which feels more like a curse than a reward
Equipment drops for D2/D3 still need to be listed. As is, it's apparently the case that D2 ONLY drops the Triple 406mm, which feels more like a curse than a reward
austere bone
Had to do a double take there to see if that was the same comment twice there
sage basin
it is
sleek patrol
Did I somehow send the same message twice? Or repeat the request? Sorry if so
light sorrel
I actually never bothered by writing a tool to parse node data for wiki. I'm working on one for future events since already filled some stuff manually. too lazy.
@stark thorn yeah that's why we upload most of the stuff (voices, lines, skills, etc) before game is even up
safe quarry
Does this mean fleet comp actually change in D3 after enabling clearing mode?
light sorrel
It was supposed to do it, but it's not. Since in C3 it happens. I'll remove them for now I guess.
safe quarry
Does it actually change in CN/JP server tho? I was just wondering because it might be a bug on our server
gentle river
its reported as "under review" in en
light sorrel
@gentle river Does it change in EN? In JP it didn't for me which I consider weird since I think it should be happening based on C3.
gentle river
it does change on en
light sorrel
Then either it's bugged on EN or bugged on CN/JP lol
safe quarry
Wait what? Ive had D3 on clearing mode and it didnt change fleet reqs
light sorrel
Unless the same wasn't supposed to happen on C3, I'm confused now 
gentle river
on D3 let me check
median turret
C3 got corrected after a soft fix
the BB req doesn't change now
silver aurora
Drops for b2 accurate? Asking cuz Scharnhorst isn't in there
rugged trellis
Its correct, B2 drops Gneisenau instead of Scharnhorst
silver aurora
Thx
rugged trellis
Whats that mutsukistare for?
shell hawk
It's nozo, that's normal
rugged trellis
i thought nozo is more of a sandywink person
fleet halo
interesting drop decisions by devs
red remnant
!tierlist
rugged trellis
wrong channel #bot-spam
proven raft
I have equiped Unfulfilled Promise on U-556 and it gave one more ammo
dusty orbit
when is the z-force event Rerun?
dusty orbit
Idk
lavish wraith
#gameplay-help might have some deduced answers, try there
dusty orbit
Okay thank you
karmic cliff
current event hard requirements are mixed : d1 has c1 listed, c2 has c3 listed as requirement
rugged trellis
fixed now
light sorrel
@median turret Huh so it actually wasn't supposed to change on C3, interesting. Well better, the requirements were ๐ฎ
barren blaze
Daily and weekly mission have to be updated
light sorrel
Yes, I made a spreadsheet just been a bit lazy to update them. Can check them here in the meanwhile: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10Zyl0cJFRpAhkHa1WklCsHEDLeJ_HQ8Qis2NK46Hafw/edit?usp=sharing
pure galleon
Koln not have table retrofit on wiki and retrofited stats
light sorrel
oh oops forgot about her retrofit 
modern flare
proven raft
Node maps for the event maps?
wet bison
Yeah, the oil value was empty on her page at lvl 120, which is why it was 0 in the table.
Thanks for the report, fixed!
rugged trellis
while we're at essex, for some reason the ASW row is shown for Base and lvl100 stats but not for lvl120 stats
apparently ASW120 is not set while the other two are set to 0
wet bison
Should ASW for non-DD, CL or CVL be unset or be zero? The game shows "ASW 0" for those ships. And whatever the answer is, we then need to apply this consistently across all pages.
Though it could be hardcoded into the template to only show when ship type is DD, CL or CVL. In this case no changes in ship pages themselves need to be made.
rugged trellis
i think unsetting it would be better, since working with empty/not-empty values is easier than checking for 0
imo that should be applied to all stats
actually my brain just thought this backwards
setting it zero is better, and then we can assume that values that are not set are just missing
grave pasture
gud job on wiki
quaint stream
@proven raft added
sage basin
tbf Warspite Kai has ASW stat, so I will have to be against hardcoded template
errant flame
Is the cost for erebus wrong on the wiki? Wiki says 10 but in game it says 9.
hardy hull
what level?
fleet halo
nah erebus cost 10 oil when level 100
open trout
prime notch
(also a siren list)
thorn harness
<@&474660785050615808> dont know if im suppose to be @ but on the AL wiki, chapter 7 page is listed wrong. for 7-1 it shows 7-2 info
fleet halo
thorn harness
gentle river
if you were supposed to @ then this channel shouldnt really exist
thorn harness
didnt know if anyone was here that's why i @ , sorry
fleet halo
should be fine now 
shell hawk
The only reason why the role is pingable, is in case the wiki goes to shit on us
And we want to alert the relevant people asap
gentle river
like it crashing 
shell hawk
Wiki staff and members are pretty different
Members don't have much perms, they simply have the power to actually edit normal pages of the wiki
Staff have a much greater control of the wiki, you could say they're in charge of what goes on. Some key pages are also only accessible by the staff.
Totally wasn't a mistake
Darn it mobile
gentle river
smh
light sorrel
@fleet halo Weren't you going to sleep?
There's also wiki members that have no role too. 
Not like me I totally swear.
shell hawk
I wanted to bring that up but I trusted Nozo's skills
light sorrel
I usually have this channel unmuted so I get notifications about stuff so even then might not have any need to ping.
proven raft
"Sirens" spawns on the wiki for future events? even this if you can, It could help player dodging the sirens/know where they are while they are making the danger level to safe
barren blaze
is there still a site for event memories?
rugged trellis
we got someone working on the new ones, the old one are scattered through different pages
fleet halo
stay tuned
barren blaze
is there a reason why their there isnt one page containing all memories like collection does ingame anymore? Tbh I quite liked the design of it
rugged trellis
we have this one: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Stories
but only the characters stories get updated there, event stories are (if they even exist) mostly on their own page or the event pages
past marten
there used to be a chibi for each skin in the bottom left of the wiki for each boat, why was that removed and how can i see the little chibis now?
rugged trellis
it got removed because host decided so
cinder willow
You can go into mobile view
rugged trellis
you can view them here https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Special:NewFiles by searching for the ships name and Chibi or mobile view as said above
past marten
oh that's a shame, it was a pretty nice little feature, i hope you guys decide to put it back in some form
fleet halo
same 
rugged trellis
we are working on a gallery page which lists all skins with full cg and background (and even all faces)
but its not really finished currently
past marten
well that's cool too, looking forward to it ๐
cinder willow
Another method is just typing the URL out
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/File:[name of ship]Chibi.png
For skins, hover over the skin image to get the link preview and put the suffix after the name of the ship
This one would be https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/File:Z23BilibiliChibi.png
sleek patrol
Is there a convenient way to see when certain things were added to the game? For instance, in the wake of wishing well and everyone asking "Why can't I choose Monty?" made me think "I have no idea when certain things became available, in either game version, without backreading a fuq ton of patch notes"
cinder willow
As of now, there isn't a way to see that, I'm afraid.
rugged trellis
well we have this https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Recent_News/EN
sleek patrol
Oooh, that actually works pretty well. Thanks
cinder willow
I thought "patch notes" meant those
sleek patrol
It definitely serves the purpose of what I was wanting, if maybe not the format
fleet halo
quaint stream
KGV, Glory of the Sun Which Never Sets
Increase damage dealt to Sakura Empire, Ironblood, Sardinia and Siren factions by 4% (10%). When the fleet has 3 or more other ships from the Royal Navy, increase firepower, reload, evasion and anti-air by 4% (20%).
Whether or not the original skill text mentions it, and I think it does - do explicitate the fact the buff only affects her
fleet halo
will just add a own to increase damage so is more clear 
imagine they are willing to give my hms another fleet buff
quaint stream
Ask for QE Kai, you'll have more success that way
fleet halo
i actually want them to nerf qe so my hms arent trash when not sorting without qe
sleek patrol
Use the ones that aren't trash then
quaint stream
That's a very roundabout way of going about it
also yeah, go for someone who's good for a change 
fleet halo
i do use uss and fr on en 
quaint stream
Man of culture
shell knotBOT
quaint stream
Not that I'd take USS backliners outside of CVs for more than waifu reasons, but their CA are delicious
sleek patrol
What's the intent on skill names -- have the translation of JP, or have the names in the EN client? Curious because Cassin/Downes blue skill is listed as "Recommissioned", while in game it's "Baptismal Flames". Not sure if that's one of the ones that got semi-recently renamed or not
safe mural
The game often translates the skills to suit a more Western audience.
Ayanami's skill "Demon God of Soloman" was originally just "The Demon"
Same with how the translations in general use "Big Sister" instead of Onee-chan
I believe Wiki uses the JP or CN translations
rugged trellis
a lot of skills use the jp translation since their servers are up before EN, and then noone replaces them later with EN ones
and some skill names also get ninja-edited ingame, so they might have been different before ingame
sleek patrol
Sure, that all makes sense. That was just the point of the original question, what the intent was so I could keep in mind whether something is actually a problem or not.
rugged trellis
i could extract all skill names from the game files and check the differences with the ones on the wiki, but right now i have other things to do
hardy hull
I think Jif mentioned once to have names on wiki be the same as in-game eventually?
Like "fan translation doesn't benefit anyone"
gentle river
one day we will, but we need to put the wiki translations somewhere
we wont just remove them and pretend they never existed, not what jif would like iirc
hardy hull
don't know him good enough, just quoting what he said
sleek patrol
Is he the head wiki person?
hardy hull
afaik one of the, yes
light sorrel
@barren blaze stories soon(tm)
noble stone
EN skill names take precedence over fan translated skill names because 1) the English text is displayed on English players' UI, and thus it is beneficial for them to see that 2) there is no corresponding English text displayed on the other clients, so there is no reason for them to be married to any particular interpretation of what the skill is named, and 3) skill names often do not agree even between CN/JP
safe mural
when u misclick the wrong emote
fleet halo
noble stone
However, there are exceptions. Sometimes things are either renamed or slated to be renamed/retranslated and those can be handled on a case by case basis. Ideally, the template would be able to accomodate
EN skill name
CN skill name (CN client)
JP skill name (JP client)
And then at the bottom of the page, there should be a change log to document in game changes to UI text that happens due to retranslation, UI fixes, etc
drifting light
Hello! I come bearing but a question, why were the chibi versions of the character + quote on mouseover removed? I've noticed they're missing, The Chibi portraits are still buried in the code (https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/images/6/6e/HDN_NeptuneChibi.png for example), but they no longer appear on the page.
If this was a deliberate action I'd appreciate it if they could be put back as they were adorable and I can't really think of a reason for them to have been removed deliberately.
light sorrel
There was a discussion of it above.
sleek patrol
True, but the response was "because host decided so" -- which means, what, it was deliberately removed to reduce page load / it was crowding other content?
gentle river
just cause the host wanted to 
someone else can probably give a more detailed reason if they know
but this whole thing was just a fever dream, its just all a big blur to me
drifting light
Well I thought they were cool and would like em back, this is the only place to provide feedback, I can't really say anything else can I?
rugged trellis
The reason was it should have never been added, you shouldn't put content in the sidebar, it blocks the sidebar and people don't like it being blocked
gentle river
maybe if you have a suggestion on how to implement them for easy viewing like a chibi gallery
theyre still on the wiki, but they arent directly accessible
drifting light
From what i remember they were in an unoccupied spot in the bottom left, so they were only really blocking some unused space, s'not like anyone cares what I think though.
Could make it one of the alternate views like the alternate outfits though, if a two inch picture is THAT much of a problem (IE how it shows Default, Goddess' Smile, etc https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Black_Heart)
rugged trellis
As i said in the discussion before, we have a gallery page in the workings, its just not near a finished state
drifting light
I just thought it was charming and added some positive flair, goodbye.
light sorrel
rugged trellis
And we can't put it back, host said it gets removed, so it is removed
drifting light
lame
gentle river
light sorrel
Rather than considering it lame provide with better ideas on how to implement them (besides the gallery.)
sleek patrol
I'm kind of curious at the peak behind the curtain. Normally when I hear "host", I would usually think bandwidth concerns, not usability. This also makes it sound like it's a particular person, but they aren't part of the wiki development discussions that people pitch on discord?
quaint stream
whois the domain to find out more info
noble stone
They'll be back via gallery. Problem is the existing design was putting a main page element on the sidebar where it was blocking the sidebar. You don't do that.
If someone decides to properly design the shipmain to accommodate it, they are welcome to add the chibis back in.
fleet halo
devout jasper
its already on the wiki
white musk
OK NVM
devout jasper
np
sleek patrol
I guess back on the subject of EN vs JP/CN translations, the skin names are in a similar state. For instance, Fusou's casual skin is on the wiki as "Fluffy Helpmate", but it's being referred to in EN as "Perfect Partner"
rugged trellis
*gallery page coming soon โข *
noble stone
CN/JP skin names almost never agree
gentle river
fr
fleet halo
i wonder which they take for kr names
noble stone
dunno, can't read KR
devout jasper
KR server is a myth anyway
rugged trellis
does it exist or not? We don't know since we have never seen a player from there...
sleek patrol
haven't
rugged trellis
the never was missing
pastel sable
I can read Korean to an extent (not that I'll understand everything perfectly, but I know people who do) but don't play KR
proven raft
For U-556 mission instead of "Doing 3 daily with the ship" she has "Do a Sos"
obtuse zenith
That's normal for subs, surcouf has that too in her quest
terse flint
I think both Lena and clevelad's construction time are wrong. Clevelad is definitely 1:20 as I was building 1 by 1 and hoping to get Lena when I saw the timer but instead got clevelad
regal heron
dear wiki guy that did the page for clevelad and lena. you guys got the construction timer the other way around
- sincerely a degen collecting his lolis
terse flint
So Lena is 1:10? Now I know which timer to look out for
quaint stream
@terse flint @regal heron Fixed now 
regal heron
quaint stream
I thought something was up when Cleveland was 1:25, Clevelad was 1:10, Helena was 1:15 and Lena was 1:20 
regal heron
i only realised it when i started getting millions of sandy spook and wondered if maybe one of them were on that timer
then in the end i got 2 lena at 1:10 so i can confirmed it was 1:10
thank you for fixing it for other people that are going to roll for her ๐
proven raft
A "max rarity" to the list of auxilary?, every gun have it
quaint wigeon
What do you mean?
Equipment doesn't change rarities, and each aux page should already have rarities available through the top there with type 1 - 3
wet bison
I understood that as adding a "Max Rarity" tab to https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/List_of_Auxiliary_Equipment which only shows T3 or T0 equips like what weapon equip lists have
should be doable with a single cargo query, lemme add it
Done
barren blaze
the quad 356mm should be niche instead of safe to scrap I think bc of KGV
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/User:Itsfyh/Equipment_Guide/Safe_to_Scrap
rugged trellis
its a userpage, you should ping or PM @thick juniper
thick juniper
quaint stream
wiki is missing how many boss battles needed at D3 for the Scherzo of Iron and Blood event to fully clear
devout jasper
Which should be 5 iirc 
devout jasper
6 of those 
quaint stream
okay ๐
proven raft
It is smaller
rugged trellis
yes
it has these sparkles around the icon itself which makes the icon itself smaller
rugged trellis
you can't just make the others smaller because the table would scale with it
we tried to make the small icon bigger and not display the overflow, but table doesn't want to do that
proven raft
Ah, I didn't know
sleek patrol
Both An Shan & Fu Shun mention they were only available though the "Big Adventures of the Four Devas" mini-event, and the link to that event shows it only ran in CN & JP. -- that is to say, those 2 ships, looking at just their individual pages, appear to not have been available in EN yet
rugged trellis
uhhh
sleek patrol
While their sisters say they were available in the Lunar New Year 2019 event, with their construction
rugged trellis
there is a big mess with the lunar new year event pages
do i really want to deal with these
rugged trellis
i added Lunar New Year 2019 to the note
sleek patrol
Lena does not appear to show up on the list of Brooklyn class cruisers
gentle river
I think we have her in st. louis
sleek patrol
Helena is stated on her page as being St. Louis, but the link redirects to Brooklyn class which lists the 5 ships (3 brooklyn + 2 St Louis)
obtuse zenith
Try it now, i just purged
quaint stream
Considering all the ships on the wiki are tied to the same template its not necessarily something that would be easy to change for just 12 ships alone At most I think we could put a note on the research page that says ships need to be max dev level to match the wiki stats
quaint stream
Are you talking about adding them here?
Or here
Just to get an idea and see if I can play around with some code a bit
@slender tartan
quaint stream
sage basin
which somehow sounds like adding how much stats ships gain from LB
quaint stream
Wheres fish when I need him to read these runes
I see what you mean now
Looking at Roons page with my translator
And are these stats the total from the dev levels up to this point
Like the ones at 5 are all the gains from dev1-5
What about the other stats then that you get at dev1-4
they are smaller but still there
hmm, I suppose it wouldnt be too hard to just copy them off the CN wiki and add them in then. Cuz youre right it isnt listed anywhere and just kinda happens behind the scenes
Youre right tho, wiki should have them and we dont so ill get working on putting them in
Cuz this is a lot easier than what I had initially thought was being asked
@slender tartan So something like this would be acceptable
Imma just finish my dailies then do the rest and hope that this doesnt mess up cargo
quaint stream
Thought 1 didnt make sense
CN wiki needs to fix too but we have no contact with them
Naruhodo
Ive done Roon, Ibuki and Louis, can you double check them
My translator really doesnt like the number 11
Ah, I see it now, its translating as <text> +1 / 1 <text> and I just disregarded everything passed the /
@slender tartan All PR1 ships done so imma do the PR2 ships now
Were Hiyou's Efficiencies fixed?
@quaint stream This is what theyre reading atm
Well, that'll need correcting then, I'm afraid
(the extra planes gained are the same, because fuck these two CVLs I suppose)
By extra planes gained you mean it should be 2/2/2 not 2/3/2 like it reads right now? 
I use F/B/T for my loadouts, so both should be 2/3/2
despite Junyou having 100/110/120 effs
Aight the efficiencies are fixed now
The wiki isn't wrong (on that), it's just a off-hand remark at their poor design
quaint stream
I mean, this channel exists for community feedback on how we can improve 
@sage basin
wet bison
I'm pretty sure the "poor design" part was about Junyou having more planes on the plane type she's not specialized in
cinder willow
Junyou EN when
quaint stream
Yet you looked over the part where wis indirectly said the wiki gets stuff wrong
wet bison
more like a baka
quaint stream
No, what I meant was indeed that Junyou was poorly designed
(not like the sister is much better, but still)
And yes, the wiki gets stuff wrong at times - it happens and I don't hold it against it, so long as mistakes are corrected in a timely fashion
ember plover
So i was looking into sub fleet on map movement range. Category:Submarines says
They move 2 spaces for everytime you move your fleet regardless the distance your fleet does.
In reality, my SS fleet move 1 tile w/ subs, that have 14 speed and go to 2 tiles w/ either equipped speed gear or mixing in subs w/ 16 speed. Does the same formula as for event limited movement works there or something?
Tested on normal maps too
sage basin
I guess we need to rephrase that
mental fractal
The one strange thing is that the obvious threshold would be 16 knots, since the others are 25 and 36, but you're saying a mix of 14s and 16s is enough to get 2 spaces?
ember plover
1 14 + 1 16 makes it to 2 spaces, 2 14 + 1 16 not enough
So around 15 average speed?
only have 3 14 speed and 1 16 speed ss for testing tho
Flagship position doesn't matter for it too
mental fractal
Hmm, if it were 15-25-35 it would make sense too...
raven cradle
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Events/Glorious_Final_Battle
sp2 map drop Supermarine Spiteful should be Supermarine Seafire and should link to the correspondent gear since the Supermarine Spiteful doesn't link to any gear page
sp3 map drop should be t3 533mm Quint torp bp instead of t4 533mm Quint torp bp
sage basin
"Supermarine Spiteful"
raven cradle
all the drop down name of all the gear bp in campaign maps are not showing (the name inside the black box), it goes under the ship drop box
proven raft
It misses torps in the slots
obtuse zenith
Fixed some of the other neptunia ships were missing that too
obtuse zenith
Yeah i know, somehow some of them were using singular form.
raven cradle
according to CN wiki sp2 of glorious final battle should drop t3 (gold) banana instead of t2 (purple) banana
link to the CN wiki in question
http://wiki.joyme.com/blhx/5ๆ18ๆฅ09:00ๆธฏๅบๆนๅปบๅ
ฌๅ
obtuse zenith
Fixed
sage basin
did you really test it and confirm that the effect is still working as of now?
devout jasper
I'll go take a look
fiery igloo
I use it all the time
devout jasper
I don't seem to notice any skins
I think you might just have some skin(s) still equipped
I don't see any weapon skins after a couple of tries myself
obtuse zenith
It works only on KizunaAI ships iirc?
rugged trellis
judging by the game files it does work only on KizunaAI ships
devout jasper
Ye its the KA ships
proven raft
Even the chip?
fiery igloo
Ill upload a video
They never said they would remove it in the patch note btw
Great its only me here
obtuse zenith
devout jasper
It only works on the KA ships
I cant test the chip since I never got it tho
obtuse zenith
I'll change the description
fiery igloo
Ah thanks. The chip only worked on KA too btw but it was removed
obtuse zenith
The chip works too right? Also, only on Kizuna AI ships?
fiery igloo
No the chip no longer work
obtuse zenith
Ah, okay
fiery igloo
Only on KA during event
wheat pelican
There is an issue with the table sorting on the event page. Some lines are missing when sorting the EN column ascendingly
rugged trellis
i can't reproduce this, are you using a mobile device?
wheat pelican
no, chrome 74 on W10
happens when I try to sort the other columns then try to sort the EN one
wait hold on, could be because of uBlock Origin
don't seem to have the issue on another browser
facepalm .. yeah it was
not sure how that one ended up in my filters
sleek patrol
In the "List of Ships by Stats" page, Li'l Sandy's name got attacked by unicode goblins. Probably a chance it happened elsewhere, too
rugged trellis
after scrolling through some old discord logs i accidentally found a way to fix this
this issue came up a few months ago with Jeanne d'Arc
quaint stream
html encoding 
pallid frost
Might be stupidly simple fix if you can assume ships._pageName always the same as ships.Name
rugged trellis
since ShipMain uses the pagename to input the name field, it is always the same
pallid frost
Makes one wonder why it's there in the first place
That field doesn't even used as intended right now. Where ingame name doesn't match with wiki page due to ambiguations
The game allows for name duplication (there're two Neptune), but the wiki resolve it by adding prefix both to the page and name instead
quaint stream
Could any of you fine gentlemen add Hermes Kai's chibi to the wiki?
rugged trellis
quaint stream
๐
proven raft
The quotes in game translation are much different that the wiki's
sleek patrol
At present, the quotes from the wiki are roughly literal translations of the Japanese & chinese linese. There is not at present (I don't believe) a section for the native English lines that are shown in our client, though I think there's a large-ish overhaul the crew is working on to accomodate that
unreal bluff
hey hey, don't diss us translators. we provide translations, not literal translations. The QC team will eat us up for that. If you are dissatisfied, there's nothing we can do about that.
sleek patrol
I ain't dissing nobody. I just wasn't wanting to put words in ya'll mouths by assuming they actually were literal
unreal bluff
Ah - sure -- it isn't literal, I did my homework - and some phrases have to be reworded to avoid sayings in general
rugged trellis
the overhaul is already done, just need one of our resident dataminer to upload all the text lines to the pages
pallid frost
need a bot for that?
arctic violet
we need dataminers 
cinder willow
Already have Dim
lavish wraith
sleek patrol
On Hiryuu's Chinese server quotes:
Is... is that accurate?
sleek patrol
Fair enough. The line just confused me, and google translate didn't come up with the mention of feet, so I was curious
sage basin
there's actually ่ถณ which means foot in that Additional Line
sleek patrol
My continued failure kept telling me different characters for foot, which I wasn't seeing
sage basin
Disclaimer: I don't know Chinese
sleek patrol
Also isn't that Japanese or is that a shared character Nope I'm wrong again I'm just gonna stop
sage basin
I actually let Google translate that character as Chinese
proven raft
There aren't any 1 triangle fleet or we couldn't get the experience? (9-4)
devout jasper
If you follow the logic of other maps it should be 635 base exp 
rugged trellis
i think all values are with morale boost
devout jasper
arent they without
sleek patrol
They should be
rugged trellis
i get 530, 583, 636 / Boss 770 from game files
the current values are with morale boost
sleek patrol
That makes them worse than 8-4. Does that mean all the values for map nodes are wrong on the wiki?
devout jasper
Im on 11-4 rn and my ships do get 1.2x the exp on wiki tho
rugged trellis
lemme check 11-4 xp
devout jasper
11-3 woops
rugged trellis
whats the map called on EN? wiki is not updated for them yet
devout jasper
devout jasper
Something feels off here 
rugged trellis
all wiki values are exactly 20% higher than the ones i get
devout jasper
My ships get 20% higher then whats on wiki
rugged trellis
sleek patrol
Current event C-3 lists the non-1.2x values
devout jasper
1155 xp with morale boost
rugged trellis
i have double checked the event values with the game files
devout jasper
on a 2* node
sleek patrol
Wait what
devout jasper
I can post a SS if you want
rugged trellis
what the fuck is going on
sleek patrol
C-3 triforce: Wiki says 468, my ships got 561, that's consistent with the 1.2x boost
C-3 boss: Wiki says 580, my ships got 835
devout jasper
idk but it makes good use of the new emote I guess
rugged trellis
I'm still waiting for my mutsukiwoke
sleek patrol
Witchcraft
rugged trellis
is there another way to get xp bonus
devout jasper
mvp/flag/morale are the only ones I can think off
sleek patrol
Did they possibly change the values at some point?
sleek patrol
That's definitely a mechanic that has been around. But I thought when I had looked previously (like during the Kizuna event for SP4 grinding), the XP listed on the wiki matched with S-rank, non-MVP, non-flagship, non-mood boosted
devout jasper
Yes, I think nobby is looking at the A rank exp 
rugged trellis
i am using the same scripts as for the event pages, why do get different values now
@wet bison do you know why the xp values for the main story maps are 20% lower in the game files than the actual values
sleek patrol
Is it possible they swapped from "S" being default to "Not-S" being default, and all multipliers are on top? Does B rank give less than A?
rugged trellis
that doesn't really make any sense but a lot of things manjuu did don't make sense
proven raft
So 9-4 is base + 20% boost in the wiki? D3 value seems so low to compare and the enemies are the same level
prime notch
Ok so im trying to find the cargo table query page and i cant find it, can someone help?
Its different from the drilldown search, its a general query page
rugged trellis
@prime notch this one? https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Special:ViewData
prime notch
i saw that page and then my brain just skipped the format section
proven raft
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Ship_Drop_Table This is so hard to understand...
prime notch
Ok does anyone know how to get all the fields of a table? Cuz the mediawiki docs say its SQL except * doesnt work
Wait nvm the people running mediawiki are just idiots
raven cradle
Are we going to go for consistency for w1 - w12 or redo all of it to follow w13?
The special note for w13 is a red border for boss / server specific drop instead of dotted line like the other maps
tbh i would prefer the red border style of w13
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Chapter_13
proven raft
I mean if normal sub can have it why not SSV? and even Azuma...
sleek patrol
Are you saying that those ship types in the JP/CN clients can equip the SG radar?
proven raft
Idk but I going at logic
quaint stream
Look ma, no autoloaders!
sleek patrol
Just so safe from ambushes
safe mural
quaint stream
Wouldn't want that 7.7k HP Medium Armour get scratched, now would we
sleek patrol
Is that all she has?! Or just at that particular level
quaint stream
Lv120 w/ Dev30
Give it a year or two and she'll get there
proven raft
That evasion tho
quaint stream
50 is slightly less than USS CAs at 120, it's cool
Nevermind, Wichita has exactly 50 too 
obtuse zenith
can i-13 equip sg too
quaint stream
She can
Want a screenshot, or do you take me on my word?
quaint stream
Screenshot (5 Jun 2019 21:42:26)
gentle river
he said nah
quaint stream
Snapped the pic already
safe mural
Who is that sub
sleek patrol
I-13
safe mural
She's not in NA right?
obtuse zenith
i should've figured before that azuma/i-13 can use sg when i knew already that they could use beaver/washing machine
safe mural
Thank you friendos, I am making my exit now
fleet halo
not yet
dusty spade
dose anyone know by how much dose ''Certificate of Sponsorship'' reduce the ammo pentalty when equipped by Bismarck, like in % ?
devout jasper
35% iirc
dusty spade
quaint stream
50% -> 35% for the whole backline
@dusty spade
prime notch
is num just the slot that it appears in?
sage basin
I guess so just the slot that it appears in
obtuse zenith
yeah, the glowworm audio line is missing
proven raft
How I get the exp in a battle? What steps I should take? It could something to add in the experience page?
I just did some and I get more exp with 2 star mob than 3 star ones with different steps.
devout jasper
I just assume the multipliers where different:
- Morale boost
- MVP boost
- Flagship boost
all effect the actual xp gain, the values on the wiki are just the baseline S-rank xp with no multipliers
proven raft
So you would add up the various bonus with the wiki base line? (345 * 0.20) + (345 + Flagship bonus)?
devout jasper
Baseline x Morale x MVP x Flagship = actual exp
proven raft
Ok, Thanks
devout jasper
ofc only when applied
proven raft
Yeah
sleek patrol
Is there any benefit to including slot 1-3 efficiencies on the "List of Ships by Stats" page? Or some other page that has that information in a ship-to-ship comparable way?
Obviously Unicorn's 80% AA efficiency shouldn't be directly compared to Ranger's 145% for the 3rd plane slot, but I feel in general it would work as just another data point when comparing between multiple ships
rugged trellis
i have created this table some time ago but didn't really finish it https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/User:Nobbbyfix/ShipEfficiency
waxen fjord
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/10-5 the drop table of 10-5 is some other random table from another map
sleek patrol
For context, they found out that Jintsuu isn't listed there
waxen fjord
^ pretty much
oh i think the drop table that is currently showing in 10-5, is the same as 5-4 https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/5-4
sleek patrol
How did you even identify that
devout jasper
Going over the drops
Uni doesnt drop everywhere
waxen fjord
i checked chapters 4 and 5 cause i remember Phoenix + Rodney/Nelson drop in 1 of those maps
obtuse zenith
Fixed 10-5
shell knotBOT
obtuse zenith
sleek patrol
No, I don't know why I did that here
rugged trellis
we also wondered about this, but thats what the original text says
safe mural
We assume it will be fixed, but Brooklyn and St Louis class are essentially the same. It's been debated if they are separate. I translated according to the text, though I could've put Brooklyn, I decided to keep it as St. Louis. I also am not finishing the translation until her voiced lines are added, since they may edit.
trail wagon
safe mural
I thought we had this already, but it was under a different page.
trail wagon
is it really?
safe mural
@rugged trellis do you remember?
plush hemlockBOT
safe mural
Yeah it is
trail wagon
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Category:Retrofit_Ships
There's also a dead page
rugged trellis
i think we have it on another page
trail wagon
You do
this is a duplicate or smth
rugged trellis
that one is already marked for deletion
safe mural
It relinks to https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Dockyard#Retrofit
Servers has all the differences between EN JP KR and CN, so just use that page I guess.
rugged trellis
KR
sleek patrol
If it's kept up to date. The first thing I see under EN is that ISSS rerun hasn't occurred yet God it would be useful if I ever said things that were true
rugged trellis
we haven't had ISSS Rerun
safe mural
Suprisingly KR is actually there
trail wagon
Could that separator be on the Retrofit page? I wouldn't think (at first) to look at the Servers page instead of Retrofits to look at server-exclusive retrofits
please and ty 
rugged trellis
i think we should add more links to the servers page
safe mural
Yeah we could add it to the Retrofit page and be like "To see which ones are in EN please click ___"
Or really on equipment, events, ships, etc.
rugged trellis
Xhenoz had added it to one of the shiplist pages after feedback from Restart
safe mural
Hmmm, I guess it's not under Retro?
rugged trellis
safe mural
I'm just gonna put a link lol
rugged trellis
@safe mural to link to pages on the wiki you can do [[Pagename]] or [[Pagename|TextToDisplay]]
rugged trellis
you dont need the full Url, only the pagename, so [[Servers#Retrofits|<Text>]] would be the way to go
safe mural
Ok will do it now!
gilded root
Not sure if this was asked already but how do you see the sprite version of a ship on the wiki? Before it showed it on the bottom left but this was changed?
rugged trellis
do you mean the Chibi?
gilded root
yes
devout jasper
Didnt know the wiki was being redesigned
rugged trellis
not the wiki, we just create a new skin page
devout jasper
oh
gilded root
alright thanks
rugged trellis
but we are currently redesigning a lot of pages
devout jasper
Understandable considering there isnt exactly a low amount of ships
fleet halo