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distant wadi
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@solemn citrus The thing is, even at the slower pace it seems that it's still working overall

thorn musk
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Staying behind from the start beats the purpose of still having people complain on the pacing.

minor robin
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I think you're mistaking why WC was given the instant rerun

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In the case of WC, there was a bug many players experienced that showed rerun characters (Sirius) appearing on the event banner

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Many people assumed it meant she would appear in the event as a result

distant wadi
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It seems to be planned long-term in advance roughly, and they've been slipping in extra content left and right in a way that doesn't feel like we're getting content more quickly as CN/JP did, but is

cosmic hinge
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I don't think I am, it was originally promised girls like Sirius would be up in construction and when the patch notes were shown and she was missing. Her icon appearing is just one part of it.

minor robin
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No, it never was officially

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The bug was what set people off the most

cosmic hinge
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If it was from Intern's own mouth I kinda have to take that as official unless he says, "Maybe"

winged compass
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basically just cause intern said it in gen chat doesnt mean you can trust it to happen

tardy arch
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no it was mainly the leaked icon that people got mad at. if the patch notes didn't mention it then it wasn't planned to appear.

minor robin
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I am aware of the message intern sent, which I cannot find anymore btw

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But it was the in game bug that set people off more as lfire said

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Because to most, it was confirmation by the game itself

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Most people weren't even aware of Intern leaking it at the time

slate monolith
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Oh yeah the WC incident is why we have issues about not having certain reruns as of late now

winged compass
minor robin
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At least, most of the people that came to this channel to complain

thorn musk
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*game-feedback

slate monolith
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More like complaint departmentEntyLUL

thorn musk
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whatever floats your edgy boats

ornate basin
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complaints are feedback dont be offended when we call it complaints TaihouScared its just a negative version of feedback not positive

minor robin
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As for why the made the decision to not do reruns as first run anymore, I am not aware of the reason (or can't recall one of the top of my head at least), though I think it was mentioned in that letter

shy pond
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@minor robin It was not stated

slate monolith
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Could it be because we aren't at the level, or had certain additions needed to the rerun there @minor robin

minor robin
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Cos tbh, I think there was a lot that went behind the scenes as a result of this incident

solemn citrus
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the only statement about it in the recent letter is "we will adhere to our comittment to syncing servers"

minor robin
solemn citrus
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which, ignoring collabs because licensing can be a bitch at times, means there are still a lot of events for us to get a hold of in the coming months. Reruns of (most) major events, various small events like Hardy, then the collabs too if we ever get them

tardy arch
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Pointland WC letter for refence btw not the recent one

slate monolith
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Well we are in sync with the current events that take place, but we have the issue where we haven't had certain runs on our server yet

minor robin
slate monolith
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I think that's what they are doing by keeping us with the current event the other two servers are doing right now

solemn citrus
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that's the only recent comment on it I've personally seen from staff, while only skimming this channel

minor robin
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Tbh, my understanding is that they'll keep on what they're doing now, though it would depends on the pacing of JP/CN too

tardy arch
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also i honestly don't get how people took "we're adding the war archives system so people who missed events can still play them and get something from them" as "we're doing full reruns of older events"

minor robin
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Tbh war archives feature itself needs work, but let the feedback come in for that when it hits EN PortDoll

tardy arch
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ya i don't get why they're adding them in one by one instead of all at once. seems kinda pointless to me

solemn citrus
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in a semi-related note to all of this, it's rather annoying to see all these unobtainable characters in event scenarios (looking at you PR2 boats getting a lot of spotlight in anniversary) when EN has no idea when we'll get them, or be able to get these skins

ornate basin
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as a jp player dont get me started on war archives BuckySmug

minor robin
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It is rather annoying, but really, it's a minor inconvenience when you get to experience events the same time as they hit JP/CN

Less of 2 evils really

solemn citrus
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Which I do remember somebody asking for said skins to be available when the girls are first released since we've already been teased them in these prior events

minor robin
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And they have done it in more recent cases with Ibuki for example

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(rip sirius and monty skins which were earlier)

solemn citrus
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except we already had Sirius when her swimsuit was released

ornate basin
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im not sure why they would add pr2 just because they get a spotlight in a story, they’ll just be confusing for some players but a sneak peak in general

minor robin
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Really just the less of 2 evils

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What would be weirder is if you change the story as a result of trying to cater

solemn citrus
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not adding pr2 early, giving us the skins that are teased now when we get it

minor robin
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Let's cross that bridge when we come to it uniFlex
It's already been suggested anyways

solemn citrus
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just, there's a lot of inconsistency that is rather annoying when trying to predict what EN will have. Transparency, up front, about many things would be appreciated. Especially since many people are in the ALEC sever as well, which shows the things other servers are getting as well

minor robin
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Yes, so don't predict lol

cosmic hinge
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Its amazing how fast KR caught up with CN/JP, but that's done under a different publisher.

minor robin
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They can't be too transparent about it either, since things do change over time

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And imagine the feedback they'd get when they suddenly push back old event A to cater to new event B
Gonna cause even worse

solemn citrus
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yeah but we knew that the Enty and Cleve skins would be EN exclusive for a period... so why didn't we get anything about skins for boats we have, that we don't get?

minor robin
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For the sirius skin, I seriously have no idea why so I'm not gonna justify

tardy arch
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you missed a chance for a great pun btw

minor robin
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Not in here dammit

solemn citrus
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that's the kind of transparency we should expect though. It shouldn't be a one-off thing. Just tell us we'll get it eventually, and people will have fewer questions. Some skins (collab, like the Bucky chicken) make sense to not get - other's don't and there's a lot of stuff that could be cleared up so people don't have to have these kinds of discussions

minor robin
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Ah if you mean transparency in that sense, yeah, that's not something I think I can answer from my position

solemn citrus
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no but you can bring it up appropriately to staff and let them know that people are having these concerns

minor robin
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I will anyways

slate monolith
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Oh right we still don't have Sirius' swimsuit yet

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This might be payback for getting her too soon I'll betAkagiLUL

gleaming jackal
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Can i suggest make all shipgirls drop rate increase on story mode 😅

static needle
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they should just put pr2 👀 it wont affect pacing anyways because its a permanent feature👀

shy pond
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I am more than halfway through PR1 myself....

naive cobalt
winged compass
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wrong channel butsuckystare

gritty belfry
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while i do appreciate the pace or direction yostar taking, im not fully enjoying this game as much. two things deeply bother me still:

  1. the safety net that alot of ppl do want to have implemented. some others games have it. if AL wanna have higher positive rating, this will heighten it. sometimes reputation > extra profits. playerbase is more important. but well just imo. ever since i missed main ships here n there, its not the same for me anymore. others feel the same way too.

  2. with more perma ships added, i think its time to clean the pool a bit again.

stone cargo
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Here is a suggestion can you please fix this graph to show stuff according to reality and not absolutely randomly? For example Monarch has base HP at lvl 120 around 7900 yet her HP stat is S-rank. Nagato Amagi Kaga BB have over 8000 HP and they have the stat in graph B-rank like wtf

minor robin
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  1. the safety net that alot of ppl do want to have implemented. some others games have it. if AL wanna have higher positive rating, this will heighten it. sometimes reputation > extra profits. playerbase is more important. but well just imo. ever since i missed main ships here n there, its not the same for me anymore. others feel the same way too.

Even if it has been suggested, it takes time to implement. Asking again isn't gonna make it come faster. Please be understanding that a completely new feature isn't easy to implement.

  1. with more perma ships added, i think its time to clean the pool a bit again.

They will be cleaned, such a clean was last done (in JP/CN) when Winter Crown ships (no such thing for Visitors in Dyed Red ships) were added, we ask that you wait patiently.

@gritty belfry

patent crescent
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Submarines' attack range is too short when called in for support.
Many times during Empyreal Tragicomedy I've seen scenarios where allied submarines laze around in back, not firing torpedoes while enemy ships are on-screen. It seems the spawn locations of many of the stationary Zara-class Production ships are too far back for the Subs to "see".

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I think supporting subs should be doing something other than loafing around at the back, personally. It's not because their torps can't reach either.

naive cobalt
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Subs range is fine, issue is with enemy CAs spawning too far back. It's a known issue.

patent crescent
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Fair enough- so long as that is dealt with eventually once this event finds its way to War Archive (or is Rerun), and isn't a more widespread problem I'm satisfied.

winged compass
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well, not exactly a fix but if you have U101 you can use her and she should be able to take care of it for the while

patent crescent
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I don't have her leveled enough to consider using in the event hard modes, unfortunately.

stone cargo
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Or just do it like me. Don’t use submarines at all they are trash anyway.
BTW Can I get some kind of response for that stats graph showing random things?

cursive plank
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CN and JP are getting Suruga as World Boss next, I think they will not share your sentiment at submarines being trash for at least one week, EN will eventually get Essex/Suruga World Boss event too

stone cargo
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I’m not CN/JP

minor robin
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i'm checking if there's a card for the stats

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he's saying how they're going to come to EN eventually

stone cargo
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And I said they ARE trash which is present tense so why you give me some random argument about future

cursive plank
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And Submarine is an investment into the future? I mean you aren't going to make it with your submarines if you only start to train them when World Boss announcements shows up

minor robin
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I've gone on endless tirades here on why subs aren't trash here and with you too iirc, I'm not gonna do it again portRaise

stone cargo
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Which reminds me why there is no obtainable equipment for Surcouf as main gun? Other subs can equip random DD gun but Surcouf must have special one that is unobtainable you must use only the blue one you received her with

shell bramble
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So it isn't unobtainable, it comes with her

stone cargo
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Now it is unobtainable and one possible equipment which is blue is weird

minor robin
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The reason why she uses a different gun is because she wasn't a typical submarine but a cruiser submarine in real life

cursive plank
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It only has the blue version.....

On the other hands... Can we not have world bosses for 2 months? I mean the I only has one submarine oxygen equipment because its the first one in the core data shop. Don't make us fight a world boss without 3 copies for all subs UniHurt

minor robin
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As much as I empathise, not much we can do about it (and using IJN/USS subs who have better o2/reload might help if they do that)

cursive plank
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How about not like this UniCry I do like my USS subs tho so it wasn't that bad

minor robin
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And in the context of ww2, there are other cruiser subs, but until then, yeah

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To be fair, you could argue for her gun to be made permanent in some shape or form, like say in the core shop since we lack french boxes
Or research bp like other french gear

stone cargo
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So basically until you add more subs of her type there won’t be any useable gun of decent quality for her right?

minor robin
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"Usable"

I hope you realise it's actually a pretty good gun MutsukiStare

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She's the only sub with actual gun damage lol

stone cargo
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Yes but would be better in purple so I could upgrade it to 10 at least

winged compass
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non gold/rainbow = nonusable UniSip

minor robin
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It does well enough (100 damage per shot is pretty decent)

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Any better would be a new gear suggestion, and we don't take suggestions for that

stone cargo
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Amazing. The only sub that is not obvious pedobait and it has this. Well have you found something about the stat graphs being random at least?

minor robin
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Again, it's not a bad thing for surcouf lol

stone cargo
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Its not great either

minor robin
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Subs are not supposed to be spewing shells to begin with
She already outperforms all other subs at gun damage considerably

stone cargo
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Thats only to be expected given her barrage is shells not torps and her gun is maingun not auxilary

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But I wanna know about the stats why are they randomly decided

minor robin
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My only guess is that it's for flavour text, but I also suspect they try to take into account... skills

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Which is why saratoga has C rank FP when she has none despite her cruiser gun skill

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Monarch was probably due to her zombie skill

stone cargo
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Thanks

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Your explanation sounds plausible but its still misleading since the graph shows just base stat icon and base stat short name but actualy counts random stuff in it from skills. And honestly there are too many different skills to fairly count em in graph that would be objective enough so yeah thanks for making it a post for devs

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And about the Surcouf just letting her equip random other gun in some caliber variety would fix that problem. For example IJN submarine didn’t have equipped main gun from USS DD on it IRL yet it’s possible in game given how the equipment system works so why not make Surcouf equip random other gun in some resonable caliber variety around her own gun caliber (just like it works with every single other vessel in game except Surcouf)

round wedge
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Prinz's new skin doesn't have any new lines?

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What a great use of 880 gems GWcorbinTopKek

rare jay
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Well there was nothing in the patch notes about it getting a CV update. But in general, we have it noted as feedback to improve the shop to give a better idea of what fully comes w/ the skin you're buying

shell bramble
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Doesn't this also have the caveat of "they exist, were removed since they were unvoiced, and will be readded when voiced"? Or was that speculation as opposed to confirmed by devs?

rare jay
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No, this was confirmed

lapis trellis
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(Suggestion)
There should be a way that we can exchange weapon blueprints for a different weapon or exchanged for gold instead of making that weapon with gold and then scrapping it just to obtain some plates

stone cargo
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Or at least make it not cost money to craft the weapon its stupid to pay 100+ gold to scrap it 2 seconds later a d get 15 gold and shitty material that cannot be crafted into better one

shell bramble
stone cargo
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Good

real cobalt
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Can we get the ability to combine the first two tiers of equipment upgrade books? I know for me personally i have so many t1 upgrade books and little of t2 and i dont need so many t1.

rare jay
normal vine
rare jay
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No. They just decided to give her another one. For what reason, who's to know WarShrug

winged compass
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she just likes collecting bikes Entyheh

slate monolith
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Well even though it's her second bike at least she has a full helmet with it instead of riding shades thereWarShrug

shell bramble
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Oh hey, we're getting YKK in permanent right away? Thanks devs.

shy pond
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Surcouf argument: In my opinion, she should be a tad stronger. Having no opening barrage is shoddy, because you lack that MASSIVE alpha strike most subs get. To add to this, if you consider reload other subs can still do decent gun damage while being quite a bit better due to the torpedo barrage. So, here is the suggestion: Surcouf barrage triggers both upon entering battle and on surfacing. Would make her a good fire support.
Gun is made a special equip and can go to +10 to be set in line with other subs being able to get +10 guns

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The more important bit is the barrage. If player-controlled such as with the sub weekly, surcouf is really good. But due to the lack of an entering volley she is relatively useless for the immediate damage boost that calling in subs means

naive cobalt
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I see your point, but at the same time it defeats her unique point which is the gun ThinkingBTTV

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I like the +10 suggestion

viscid moon
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When you complete a mission, whether daily, weekly, or event, have a popup from the bottom left or wherever stating the mission has been completed and what mission it is

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Possibly, have similar popups for completed ships and meowficers who have finished training

naive cobalt
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I believe it was suggested. I'll check later and update the card if it was only partially

viscid moon
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Wouldn't surprise me!

lapis trellis
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Hmmm... i suggest an option to turn these popups on or off (if they will be added in game) cuz they might be useful for many players, but a complete nuisance for some other player

ornate basin
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ok will say its toggleable

flat vector
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I agree with Stormfire, the last thing we need is a second never ending exclamation point

ornate basin
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https://trello.com/c/GHuU25gJ I believe this is it
has been edited

As there are in game notifications for when players receive medals, perhaps have options for those notifications to be applicable for things such as lecture hall finishing, tactical class finishing, commissions finishing, finishing a mission, meowfficers/ships etc. That way p...

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winter lance
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Usually when grinding or just playing I tend to skip rewards page real fast, but then sometimes I notice something there for a fraction of a second and I'm curious what I've actually got. Would appreciate a button that lets you go back and check on the earned loot for the mission. Just a little quality of life change.

rare jay
flat vector
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I didn't see it through a quick glance in trello, but is there already a ticket to disable sub animation entirely? It gets pretty tedious holding up battle watching the animations.

shell bramble
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I know it's not directly what you're asking for, but at least for the time being you're aware you can tap the screen to fast forward it?

flat vector
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Yeah, I want it gone entirely.

shell bramble
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As for your direct request, I don't see a card for it in particular. If not its own card, might be edited onto the one for skipping / removing BB/CV cutins (although map vs in battle), or maybe that would be part of the fast forward feature if they bring that to other maps (I forget if that was sped up as well during Ashen or not)

normal vine
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@shy pond @naive cobalt I did suggest multiple times to add a purple version of Surcouf's gun to the event rerun ...

naive cobalt
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maybe it was missed
but can't really add a new gun to already existing event regardless
making her default being able to go to +10 makes more sense and is easier to achieve

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And making one of the map drops a weapon that can only be used on one single ships is... not the best idea

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since it basically makes any drop of it past initial 10 a dead drop
assuming you have surcouf in the first place

flat vector
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Restart, can you make or amend a ticket for my request pls AkagaHug

naive cobalt
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ye ye, was just checking if it exists

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it doesn't, at least I don't see it, so got it created

ornate basin
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I thought you were saying remove graphical subs entirely from fights and I was FumizukiStare wot?

grave kettle
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so why is ykkz getting added now as opposed to prev announcement? can we now expect devs to add rerun ships to next archives?

naive cobalt
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her being added is unrelated and separate from war archives

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for other servers it took around a year between initial war archives and her being added completely unrelatedly just now

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for us it was just mashed into one update to catch up faster

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maybe they should've specify it

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also - all war archives DO include ALL the rerun ships
VDiR is the only exception for whatever reason

grave kettle
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didnt she get added cos of the fact that vdir got sent to archives? so its related in a sense. but they delayed ykkz cos she's from rerun version.

naive cobalt
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she's being added on other servers only now
while vdir was archived ages ago

grave kettle
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wait vdir is an exception huh
alright i guess that answers my question EntyLUL
tyty

naive cobalt
stuck bramble
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How much time does it take for an event to be in the War Archives?

shell bramble
static needle
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Its just that months after a rerun has ended, they add the event to the archives. It may take 3~6 months generally 👀

ornate basin
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theres no timeframe really LeanderXD

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theyre really random

static needle
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at least in practice, thats the usual pattern in jp dunno about cn

gritty stone
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Why did you change Seattle's personality to a valley girl? Her speech pattern doesn't match her translations she has on the wiki, she talks normally there and rarely uses the word "like", let alone in every sentence which is what happened this event. It just makes her seem stupid when that's not her character personality at all.

void schooner
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Likely the way they chose to interpret some kind of verbal tic she has in Japanese. Kinda like what happened with Naruto when he got dubbed, if you're familiar with that situation.

shell bramble
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Dattebayo!

gritty stone
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If that's the case I feel it would be better to not include anything extra for a verbal tic, which is what's been done for a lot of other ships. Adding words like "like" doesn't work the same way as verbal tics do, but instead it completely transforms the entire character into a dumber one. Perhaps that was an oversight with adding it, but I do want to know why.

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Would like to see that get addressed for when she's out when they add PR2, it will give people the wrong idea about her character/personality and cause a lot of confusion with her lines.

velvet adder
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It probably wont be changed since majority of people doesnt mind it, especially in facebook

flat vector
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Pretty sure it's been complained about a bunch of times already in here, so I'm sure there's a card for it if one was worth creating.

ornate basin
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we dont create cards for general discomfort, its just noted as translators do read your feedback
we do though, take formal suggestions for a better way to translate something if you think it could be better

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and im sure feedback is generally based on the majority, rather if its complained about by a few people a few times here

gritty stone
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That's unfortunate. The format suggestion I said before would be to just not add anything to replace her verbal tic quirk she has, it doesn't carry over well from Japanese.
"You look soooo bored, looks like you haven't had any fun all day" sounds a lot better and clearer. There isn't a need for the first like, and adding "looks" before the 2nd makes it looks normal instead of a verbal tic replacement. If not for the discomfort it should still be changed to make the text clearer for people that struggle with English.

flat vector
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Seems weird to make English translations catered towards people who don't speak English well, but maybe that's just me.

celest abyss
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I'm actually curious if you think people with clear accents must be stupid

sweet cloak
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Can we have a Guild Raid for the next feature?

gritty stone
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Not just to second language speakers but to everyone really. Another example would be her special touch line "Commander, if that is on purpose, I will be angry." You can hear her verbal tic in that so the replacement would currently be "Commander, like if that is on purpose, I will be angry." Which is adding extra un-neeeded stuff that makes it harder to understand.
@celest abyss It's not the accent, it's the repeated use of extra words for no reason that causes it to sound stupid, words such as "like" or "way" used when they're not needed.

shell bramble
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What do you mean with clear accents, ghost? Seattle has been translated to sound like a valley girl, which certainly has a perceived connotation of being dumb in popular culture (when it's done up for effect)

celest abyss
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...I forgot the correct word 🤦

flat vector
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Doesn't seem difficult at all to understand. Seems like you're just unhappy with the translation itself.

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Besides, colloquialisms are more inherent to the native language, like them or not.

celest abyss
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And I can't recall it off the top of my head
though tbh I'm not a fan in general of how people who speak "different" are portrayed in media because I been laughed at because I actually talk like L/Rs said as Ws lmao

shell bramble
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That's just cause people are rude

celest abyss
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Anyways, yeah, I'll note Seattle isn't the first ship we have that speaks in a different pattern
She just happens to be first valley girl pattern we have
About the only argument I can see someone reasonably making (outside no dialect in CN or JP, which would require a Chinese/Japanese native to confirm likely) is that dialect is most common in Calif., and that doesn't preclude her talking that way

jade surge
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just replace her valley girl accent with references to 90s grunge lyrics

gritty stone
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That was a rather simple example but the same happens with longer sentences as they become more confusing. The worst is when she needs to use the word "like" normally such as this event when she was describing Roon but with the extras that have were added due to her verbal tic it sounded a lot worse. Generally you can't slot in "like" as a verbal tic replacement in every other line she has it, it doesn't carry over the same way her tic quirk does elsewhere. But I guess nothing will be happening with it though.. despite her being a pretty prominent ship being one of the PR2 research ships I'd thought you would want to keep her the same and make her as clear as possible.

faint hinge
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The feedback is duly noted though.

shy pond
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I very strongly support Gray's case. The TL team is STILL not working to our satisfaction (although I will say they have improved a bit). With verbal tics you can not just insert "like" everywhere. If you have English as a second language, it can even be considered a mistake to overly use it. That is why I would at least notify the TL team

teal cradle
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Hope they implement a way that i can change servers with the same progress

ornate basin
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it has been suggested heres the card for ref https://trello.com/c/IEqCR5De SandyWink

An option to move an account between servers for gems (as a guess ~500-900). Must have been playing the game for at least 30 days and be confirmed. on FB or Twitter, can't move servers again for at least 90 days, maybe the price to move again goes up.

I'm on Washington, most...

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short tangle
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@teal cradle I too wish for a server transfer feature

slate monolith
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I want to say it's like saying "you know" after certain sentences you know. Because that too is an English verbal tic you know

lyric maple
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but like, it doesn't sound, like waaay suuuuper dumb like this

slate monolith
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But it's still a verbal tic though, and it doesn't have to sound dumb, just like a thing you know

swift hatch
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Not sure if this is such a big of a deal, but it's annoying when you have multiple ships activate all their skills at the same time. Especially on the start of a battle. All of them say their voice lines at the same time, and it comes out a jumbled mess of indistinguishable noises.

normal vine
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@naive cobalt the gun could be added to the event shop, though

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or give it as a reward for calling Surcouf into battle n times during the event

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it's not like it has to be a map drop ...

tardy arch
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@swift hatch turn down or mute the voices then.

cursive plank
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Can we talk about the new magic equipment for the An Shan class? Why is this a good idea? Their performance will exceed Javelin kai.... Which takes investment into the retrofit process... vs a few Core Data

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I am completely fine with China meme because they have to go through the retrofit process, just a few core data is way too over the top

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Let alone the fact that its a magic equipment that doesn't exist irl

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Jesus Christ who thought this is a good idea? Power creep is one thing magical powercreep with minimal investment is absolutely stupid

round yacht
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tell me more about this magic core data thing

cursive plank
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+550 HP and +16% damage to Main Guns and improved all out assault for An Shan Class

minor robin
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For one, I'm not even sure why you're comparing to Javelin kai

cursive plank
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Because she is the one that got beaten in both survival and dps

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BOTH

minor robin
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An Shans were always gun DDs, Javelin was straddling the line between gun and torp and was more torp oriented to begin with

cursive plank
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Stop the 'they aren't comparable bullshit' you can literally make calculations on those, and on top of that one of them is indeed minimal investment

naive cobalt
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i recommend you to chill, if you want to give feedback - do so in civil manner

cursive plank
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Feedback: no more magical bullshit with minimal investments

naive cobalt
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noted

narrow sage
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Javelin's initial kit was pretty flawed in the first place with her refit beig a big bandaid.

cursive plank
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If you wanna give those stats to An Shan class, actual retrofit please, I am not going to accept this

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'Here is this core data equip that immediately makes a ship better that the other you invested in' is hurting my stomach

faint hinge
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China bias strikes again

gloomy mauve
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What equipment is he talking about?

narrow sage
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the 4 gods item being added to the core shop in JP/CN at least.

minor robin
narrow sage
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It raises the question of if CN maintence ended yet or is this reacting over datamined stuff (which can change before maintence ends)

minor robin
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CN maint has ended anyways last time I checked

faint hinge
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Or they're just bumping stuff that never gets used in a way that doesn't break the rest of the game

minor robin
faint hinge
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Comparing to Jav Kai isn't exactly fighting for the T0 spot

minor robin
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As much as the feedback is valid

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Is the very basis even true is another story

narrow sage
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Not like the Deva DDs have much of a power support network (nothing lik Fletcher, Z1, etc)

minor robin
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They do, An Shan lol

winged compass
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the an shans have a buncha fp buffs

hazy marten
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Isn't an shan's skill is just Z1 skill for an shan classes?

minor robin
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A much less potent one but yes

narrow sage
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less so (just a FP up and no where as strong)

minor robin
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In any case, not like we can nerf something that's already been released, even if it does make them op

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Mareepy point is that they shouldn't try to pull this alleged BS with other ships

cursive plank
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My point is ultimately this is not a retrofit, yet it has the impact of one on a ship, no more of these, if you want to improve them, retrofit, easy as that

narrow sage
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But I doubt this will shake things up; as it is, I think the Chinaball has fallen out of revelance.

naive cobalt
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so do many items that work best/only on certain ships

minor robin
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They never even were relevant to begin with even though they weren't nearly that bad

faint hinge
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This is probably just how they intend to diversify loadouts in the future without influencing entire swaths of ships

cursive plank
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Yes but does one literally improve a ship akin to a retrofit?

faint hinge
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Sure, why not

minor robin
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Tbh, I've seen no actual proof if that's the case to begin with

narrow sage
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Let's wait until we get hard data before flying off the handle.

faint hinge
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Who cares if some ships get buffed to the level of a mediocre retrofit when you have shit that's t0 right out of the box

naive cobalt
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anyway, "no more magical bullshit" feedback noted, not going to take suggestion on nerfing this item, can we stop this discussion

analog jay
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Regarding bache bike skin (if it will come to EN), is the plate number intentional?
I can read it as a wordUzukiiiii

narrow sage
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It's hard to take that CN claim post seriously as CN's infamous for running with datamined stuff as if it was fact.

minor robin
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The art for the skin was changed for other servers so the word doesn't exist

naive cobalt
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and patchnotes do say en getting the skin

faint hinge
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Bitoo

cursive plank
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So its changed? That is at least a good news, 617CH is not even subtle

analog jay
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Oh, okay gonna wait the announcement for the change👌

winged compass
narrow sage
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Is anything said here able to even convince the higher ups not say getting subpar artists because of some rivalries or letting them get so carried away? (Or for that matter fixing..... fake Surcouf's skin so it matches another girl better or have it match the actual girl)

naive cobalt
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Like, we can relay it, but probably not

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especially with comments like "subpar artist"

narrow sage
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how else would one describe Waterkuma and what he's provided?

faint hinge
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Dunno, people have no problem voting with their wallet

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I personally quit GFL once when they brought on waterkuma but that's my own bias

narrow sage
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We'll see when maintence is done, but I will hold the opinion if not for being a GFL artist, he would not have been considered.

faint hinge
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He did a pretty ass job for GFL too so yeah cya

naive cobalt
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dunno, i like his gfl work, but bache base is, yea...

faint hinge
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Getting off topic but Mica is finally firing back indirectly by giving T95/97 to new artists for this upcoming set and they look great.

narrow sage
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And the skin while an improvement on execution, I feel goes in a direction AL is better off not going. He can be a decent artist, but he seems to choose not to be and his fans enable it.

faint hinge
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These are some higher level decisions that fall in Manjuu's court

narrow sage
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I figured but I felt I had to get it off my chest as a general thing and to help shut someone up in a thread I made.

narrow sage
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I do hope that Victorious is in a future balance patch (for a ship with her history and her in-game esteem, it's unbecoming to get what amount to a mildly scaled up Rare or Elite skill kit)

dreamy loom
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IMO victorious biggest flaw is her abhorrently low reload stat
like, JFC, slower than GZ. yikes

velvet adder
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So they changed Bache's plate to gibberish? YorkBruh

dreamy loom
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it's another sign that AL QC is slacking

narrow sage
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that's a family trait share by Lusty and Middy. Also that's assuming they weren't lax on Waterkuma to try convincing him to quit GFL (nevermind this route would hurt AL worse than GFL)

hard plaza
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Why does azur lane close the servers for 8 hours for a 100mb update while all of the mmos i played used to have gbs worth of updates every week and yet they closed the server for a maximum of 2-4 hours?

dreamy loom
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probably because AL code is a spaghetti mess

void schooner
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Probably because any less than that and we'll end up with a broken game.

hard plaza
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There is no reason why a game should need 8 hours of maintenance

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Especially a game small as azur lane

rare jay
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It's just the time that the devs require to implement all the new content and features. Not much to be done about it

minor robin
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Unless you're gonna give specific ways to speed up the maintenance, there's nothing much we can do other than tell them to hurry up

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Every game is just... Different

hard plaza
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Sure, but if 99% of online games can figure this out, I think azur lane can too

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And they wont do anything until we complain, so here i complain

balmy rover
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I feel bad for bache censored plac. It was funny xD

minor robin
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Yes, so if you're not gonna provide ways to improve it, all we can say is that we note your feedback and will bring it up to the Devs, but we obviously cannot promise anything

velvet adder
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@balmy rover It is not known yet if EN is gonna censor, hopefully they don't.

hard plaza
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I feel like a pedophile looking at that skin

tough granite
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@hard plaza can u please say which game give like 2-4 hours maintainance? I'm not a whiteknight defending AL, i just love the game. If they provide a smooth experience after maintainance, as they do everytime, we shouldn't complain.

velvet adder
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Some people find it hard to distinguish fiction from reality

balmy rover
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Well i do. Fiction is cool reality sucks

naive cobalt
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neither of these discussions really belong here

north wigeon
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So.. I’m not sure how much control you guys have over this.. but would it ever be possible to tone down on the amount of events* and focus solely on updating the core gameplay itself?

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Events**

naive cobalt
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so less content just for the sake of it?

north wigeon
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No, less time-based content for more permanent non-skin content

balmy rover
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I prefer more content. And i hope we get the iron blood event rerun soon!!

naive cobalt
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that is extremely general and doesn't really help

north wigeon
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nevermind then

hard plaza
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@tough granite Black Desert Online had weekly updates that were all at least 900mb and they closed the server for 4 hours max each time

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Guild Wars do the same thing for its updates

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World of Warships updates take 4 hours

balmy rover
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In the other hand. Lol down servers can be even 12 h long

naive cobalt
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this is neither
obviously we would prefer to have shorter times, but if devs take 8 hours - they need 8 hours

tough granite
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Then we shouldn't complain amr? i saw 5 hours for BDO, Blade and Soul has 6 hours sometimes.

naive cobalt
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telling them to not take as long won't reduce time

hard plaza
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Well it will if enough people complain about it, its just laziness to take 8 hours for a 100mb update

naive cobalt
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I don't know what goes into updating al and its servers and neither do you, no offense

hard plaza
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They could make soem optimizations to the process to make it faster

jade surge
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so about biker bache's license plate, why didnt they just change it to 64CH3 instead of giving us gibberish?

naive cobalt
hard plaza
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Again, there are games that are 10 times as complicated as azur lane and they take less time so azur lane can take less time too

naive cobalt
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again, answer won't change

velvet adder
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I think the reason is that usually multiplayer games have test servers in which they can find bugs etc. I believe that AL devs don't have a test server so they need to iron out bugs and such during maint. But I'm not an expert or anything. Actually don't even know anything about game developing or servers smugBucky

void schooner
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If it means less hotfixes, or the game going down for additional maintenance because something went wrong, after initial maintenance period, they need to take as much time as they need to get it mostly right the first time.

jade surge
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i guarantee you they have a special bugfixing server that we have no access to

minor robin
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The problem is, unless you know what is even making the maintenance longer, it's kinda meaningless to suggest such general solutions. You can complain sure, but that doesn't mean things will change

winged compass
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@velvet adder they actually do have a test server according to the WC letter AkashiHide

velvet adder
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Oh well, I just threw a suggestion ChaserSmug

normal vine
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do you have that in readable size, @winged compass?

south sequoia
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It's just an excerpt from their letter about the Winter's Crown issue

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where they noted their test server stuff got onto the main server

normal vine
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regarding Javelin and the An Shans - I only use Javelin when a mission demands high EVA ...
An Shans I see more like better Fletchers (and slightly weaker, less varied Zeds - An Shans are all FP focused, while you've got FP with Z23, torp with Z1, and AA with Z46)

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kinda weird anyway to compare a single ship to a class that benefits from filling your whole vanguard

minor robin
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I did do the rough damage calcs anyways and javelin comes up quite ahead even if you account for accuracy so I'm not sure what that claim was based on

Admittedly I haven't gotten exact numbers but the rough numbers show the claim us unfounded

thin thistle
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So, about bache's new skin.
Why do censorship still exists and don't we get any official statement explaining the reason behind it ?
And before people say "it's just a skin, why would you care" or that the word "Bitch" is too offensive for a game full of naked women, I want to precise that I'm against ANY form of censorship.
Moreover, the censorship is rushed, there's plenty of solution to put something that makes sense on the plate, like 64CH3 for example, but no, it's just random numbers put together.

minor robin
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I would like to point out that art of the skin was changed on all servers

velvet adder
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I dont know if this is where its suppose to go, but the most recent skin 'Gorgeous Speed-Star' is censored, I'd really appreciate it if we could get the artists uncensored version. I won;t be buying the skin until it is.

thin thistle
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"changed" LUL
What happened there is the exact definition of censorship, look it up

minor robin
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Moreover, the skin's preview was never released on EN to begin with

thin thistle
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So no preview was officially released makes it ok to censor ? That's not how it works

hidden cedar
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I don't consider it changed if it was released like that and wasn't altered after it was released.

velvet adder
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thats only due to the guy posting it being literally suspended from twitter due to the post BuckySmug so they didnt want to risk it i imagine

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but yeah im very sad it was censored and if it was due to yamaha saying to change it id rather we didnt collab with shitty normie companies anymore if it means the game is going to get censored

thin thistle
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The artist's will was to put "bitch", but they changed it because they didn't want that, not matter how you look at it, it IS censorship of the artist

velvet adder
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I'm just leaving my feedback, I'd think it would be a good move to include artist uncensored version in the game, at least in the EN release.

silk agate
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Lewd Lolis are okay but a few letters and numbers that can be argued one way or another is offensive and need censoring, despite cameltoes being all over this game...

minor robin
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As much as I understand, how you guys feel about the art being changed, there is nothing we can do.

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The art was changed on all servers, not just EN only.

thin thistle
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Nothing needs censorship, that's what freedom of speech is supposed to be

silk agate
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We can bitch, I am going to bitch endlessly like I still do with demiya, and not buy the skin

minor robin
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It is decision made by dev team, we have no say in it, we'll relay your message, but we can't promise anything and skin most likely won't be changed back.

jade surge
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ender i believe what needs to happen is that new art must have the guidelines completely spelled out to the artists so that the FIRST art they make is ok for the game

thin thistle
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Yes I get that Ender, i just want to voice the dissatisfaction, even if it can't be reverted

velvet adder
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they should not post art to twitter unless it is final BuckySmug is my two cent

jade surge
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the only problem with the censorship is that we KNOW its censorship

minor robin
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Yes, I would appreciate if it ends at that. We'll relay the feedback to the devs.

Also yes fire, I'll relay that too, thank you.

velvet adder
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You relaying the message is what we expect for you, and I if you do that, I appreciate it.

hardy egret
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Will past events feature collabs be reintroduced such as the Hyperdimension Neptunia collab?

gloomy mauve
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give the ladders better names, event and event is a bit misleading, or was sardegna supposed to leave anyways?

balmy rover
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Hello, i'm here just to say i'm angry with the bache skin "change", thank you for listening

minor robin
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@hardy egret Unfortunately, that would be difficult and I can't confirm anything, for more details, refer to this screenshot

jade surge
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also i doubt yamaha is the reason why bache was changed, cuz this means yostar posted the original one with yamaha's brand name on it before yamaha OK'd it and thats a huge lawsuit if so

minor robin
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Well, It's almost 11pm, I'll go have dinner. I'll look into your suggestion in detail if someone doesn't get to it already @gloomy mauve

velvet adder
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yeah just a few rumours i heard circulating over why it was changed, since again we never hear anything official over these changes

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relevant

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they might be pushing laws that mean places where the president is active become public spaces and speech cant be censored in them eg twitter but thats not a topic for here BuckySmug

hardy egret
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@minor robin Even if it was a collab that already happened?

velvet adder
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theyd have to sort out new contracts with them, like they did with world of warships and pr ships

hardy egret
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Why?

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When the ships are still in the game.

velvet adder
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because the contract most likely only covered the use of copyrighted materials for those 2 weeks like music and other stuff, ships are in forever cos they agreed on it

hardy egret
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Ok

velvet adder
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i mean the people who did neptunia did do crosswave so it is possible that nep could come back someday

hardy egret
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Yeah.

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I started the game again on this phone, but forgot to back it up from my other phone so I forgot what the account was and lost a lot of ships that I had gotten.

minor robin
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Yeah Nyano explained it well
Stuff like date, the ships, their art and voicelines so on so forth are agreed to by the company

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In fact as a result, there are some errors or inconsistencies in the Neptunia event or the ships that we cannot correct due to it being their legal propety

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@hardy egret If you have anymore questions, regarding it I can try to answer with whatever information I have/can reveal

jade surge
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though the nep event does have a good chance of coming back since they seem to have a good relationship, though they may be waiting to time it with a nep game release

naive cobalt
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shame kizuna collab was better by a mile

jade surge
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thats because kizuna is a maniac, and her event def shows it

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though the nep event had good lore explaination

torpid slate
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Ender, sorry for adding on to the topic, but in regards to the whole skin issue, something else that could be nice to pass along would be that if this was a Yostar decision (ie the App Store/Play Store did not force the change), then allow people to toggle over to the other design since literally the only people that will see it are the ones using that skin. It'd be very different if it showed up in say, PvP where you can't control it, but it's literally an extra item that can be ignored and could possibly have the problematic part for some toggleable

naive cobalt
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we'll pass them this suggestion

torpid slate
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At the very least, know it's outside of y'all's control here, but would be nice if they said something when changes had to be made. They're usually so good with not altering stuff, so if it does have to, just tell us and I'm sure most will understand, haha. Welp, I waited up past midnight in Japan to be let down by this skin change, so off to bed now 😅

mystic forge
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how come bache's license plate got changed? just curious

shell bramble
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I mean, is there really an expectation that when they change things that haven't been announced for EN yet, that they need to say something about it?

mystic forge
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i dont particularly care about the change because its super minor, but i am curious haha, i guess bitch was a bit too much to just put there?

minor robin
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Unfortunately, we are unaware of the reason why. We have asked the staff if they can reveal it, but ofc, we can't promise anything

jade surge
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i think the staff are currently tied up with trying to keep the servers from catching fire

ornate basin
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they will still answer in due time

faint hinge
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I doubt any of the EN staff even have the clearance to discuss decisions made presumably by Manjuu

mystic forge
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Oki, just waiting it is then

faint hinge
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Just understand that business decisions have to be made and sometimes they are abrupt and for no reason beyond "big boss didn't want this"

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If it's that upsetting just vote with your wallet and stop causing a shitstorm because I guarantee you this is out of the hands of anyone who might be reading this

white epoch
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That's a lot more understandable. In the end my gripe was just communication cause getting tied up in contract talk with Yamaha or app store TOS is completely understandable. It was just odd unofficial leak or no. But that's cool if they're working on it.

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Ty Ender

cursive plank
soft tartan
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The Crosswave Event is not a bad idea. Using all the people in the server to work together and obtain the rewards. It's a good concept and can be potentially expanded by other things. I'm talking about the GUILD!

As of this moment, the Guild system is useless. Guild is there for flexing, have salt and get salt! Combine the Guild system with the Crosswave event mechanic and the guild is now useful as ever. At least now, there's a reason to join a guild. Because of Mini-Events that's exclusive only for guild members like this.

naive cobalt
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that makes guilds mandatory to join to participate in the event

dreamy loom
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you also can't leave a guild as of current build

soft tartan
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Yes. Make Guild Useful!

naive cobalt
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making them mandatory to participate in the event is not exactly "useful"

faint hinge
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There are smaller things that could be done to make guilds more relevant like the way Honkai handles Armadas

velvet adder
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i personally dont want to join a guild ever LaffeyDrink i dont have any friends in this game and i would appreciate if they didnt lock content behind things

dreamy loom
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i just want to have the option to leave a guild present. is that a game feedback or bug report?

faint hinge
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It's far from mandatory but participating in an Armada gives some modest rewards

dreamy loom
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what modest reward?

soft tartan
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Then the Guild is as useless as ever. Please make guild relevant. Not just for flexing

cursive plank
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I mean, AL has the tendency to take some collabs for granted, collab with WWF to have a stolen art that is replaced later, and then we have a collab with Yamaha and we get a skin that spells bitch, I mean, how did it get past QA in the first place?

velvet adder
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it could do like the final fantasy guilds where when you play and level up the guild/earn currency for it and you can execute certain buffs

dreamy loom
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bold of you to assume AL have QC

minor robin
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Ok that was uncalled for.

dreamy loom
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right, they definitely have QC
but whoever the one in charge of arts tend to be very.... uh... liberal?

faint hinge
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You do understand that when several companies are involved, snap decisions can catch a lot of people off guard and sometimes miscommunications happen

minor robin
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We already told you guys, that we will be conveying the unhappiness some players have expressed over the bache skin changes

jade surge
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lovhes, the term liberal and the image of the biker prostitute with the censored license plate do not go together

velvet adder
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this is why i dont like collabs with certain companies, i mean yamaha? AkagiLUL are we really yamahas prime market

minor robin
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There is no need for anymore discussion regarding this matter.

cursive plank
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Oh I am god damn happy over the change and I thank Yamaha for that

minor robin
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Ofc, feel free to leave your complaints we'll submit those too, but there's no need for a discussion about this

naive cobalt
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just keep it civil, it's not a rant channel

velvet adder
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Yeah my complaint would be to just not collab with companies that might not have the same views as an anime game would do, and would be rich and big enough to either cancel the collab or enforce decisions on the game that the game company wouldnt want

jade surge
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i love how its a skin of a girl of questionable age appearing to belong to a profession where she gets money for illicit acts, and yet the censor was only the license plate and theres still this level of complaint

minor robin
faint hinge
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🤡

white epoch
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Yeah, makes no sense but that's what contractual obligations do. All we can do is just wait and see what devs say.

ornate basin
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lets keep comments on the down low and stick to feedback SandyWink

jade surge
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literally the only complaint i have is that the new license plate says 61700 instead of 64CH3, if its possible to get that fixed, that would be nice

cursive plank
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That is actually a good idea

minor robin
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We did bring that up earlier while maint was ongoing

dreamy loom
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i like this event, but the severe level of connection problem makes me wonder, do the dev team (or is it localizer for us?) have tested the server with a hypothetical situation when literally everyone (or at least 85%) of the player dunking into the event?
just, uh, a question
because i thought they have learned things after scherzo

faint hinge
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Marus are used in Japanese to censor text

minor robin
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Actually, do you want to know what caused the connection issues?

velvet adder
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just anything other than random numbers BuckySmug as long as its a custom numberplate i am fine

faint hinge
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So it probably makes more sense for them than it does for us

jade surge
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no lovhes, and no intelligent company builds their servers capable for that

white epoch
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What cause the issues?

velvet adder
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yes i would love to know the issues BuckySmug

dreamy loom
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aight then, so it's not because of a lot of people accessing the game. if that's not the case, then... what is it?
because the last 2 times something similar happen it's because... scherzo hype calling in too many player at the same time

minor robin
jade surge
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the amount of bache license plate complaint emails flooding the servers Omegalilwoo

white epoch
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Oh the rolling text

dreamy loom
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so, basically, the part that would be a problem if a lot of people are doing the event
got it sir. AlbaSalute

white epoch
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that makes sense. constantly updating on an ungodly amount of users would kill anything tbh

minor robin
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It's not about the actual too many players like what happened other times

jade surge
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well yeah that was causing the server to send the data for each player completing a map to all other players, that data adds up quick

dreamy loom
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that's why i ask if they've tested the event with hypothetical high amount of users playing the event

minor robin
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And I'd like to point out JP straight up lost a server due to this

jade surge
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lovhes the answer is no

dreamy loom
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aight

jade surge
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they LOST a server? AkagiLUL

velvet adder
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i like how the jp server was up for like 2 hours before ours, and they still didnt fix it before they brought it out for us BuckySmug

minor robin
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Kiel server went down for an additional 1h maintenance
They probably didn't know what caused it

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But yeah that's besides the point

velvet adder
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im surprised it didnt bring down all the en servers LaffeyDrink since jp servers are probably a lot bigger and better

dreamy loom
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well, i guess it's great job to the dev finding the issue quick enough before things get worse

jade surge
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well how many servers does JP have?

velvet adder
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like 40 or maybe more

rare jay
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This is straying from feedback Sipzang

velvet adder
minor robin
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about 20 iirc, but yeah, not a discussion for here
CN has nearly 30

white epoch
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i can understand small bugs making past patch release, but is there no way for them to simulate server strain with a feature like that contribution log?

ornate basin
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as I said a few mins ago MutsukiStare

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lets keep comments on the down low and stick to feedback SandyWink

jade surge
velvet adder
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yeah heres a feedback BuckySmug try to test servers and the updates before theyre actually pushed

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since it seems like we are used as beta testers quite often BuckySmug

ornate basin
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that is feedback, leave it at that no minor comments that stray FumizukiStare

minor robin
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We'll bring this up, can't promise if it'll change anything noticeable to us but yeah

velvet adder
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you dont need to bring it up BuckySmug i know that nothing will change

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id prefer the bache numberplate was at the forefront RenownThumbsUp

jade surge
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just one quick final note on that, they physically cant simulate the amount of devices of the playerbase in a way that gives them a good idea of how its going to run without literally purchasing that many devices and scattering them across the world

dreamy loom
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just want to re-state it, big congratulations/salutations/kudo and other salutary statement to the dev (or is it localizer?) for finding and fixing the issue fast enough.

jade surge
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wasnt fast enough to save JP

dreamy loom
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their loss will be remembered. for a week.

white epoch
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actually, for thought, could there be a feature that auto retires only extra rares, elites, and super rares but leaves bullins, purrins, and commons alone?

naive cobalt
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I believe something was suggested, but need to check

velvet adder
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yeah i was also gonna suggest that it would auto enhance ships for me

jade surge
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i would prefer both, where it auto-enhances your ships by level, and if theres no more room for enhancement, it then auto scraps

velvet adder
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yeah thats exactly what i would like

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it would be helpful for newbs too since i remember i didnt enhance my starter for like 3 months cos i didnt know BuckySmug

white epoch
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just so long if it does that it doesn't touch rare+ ships for enhancement.

velvet adder
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yeah only commons

dreamy loom
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an auto enhance button for the entir dock would be useful ngl. even if they do it inefficiently (using a dozen DD to upgrade FP instead the spare common BB you have)

naive cobalt
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I'll add it

white epoch
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perhaps make it prioritise matching ship type in auto enhance

jade surge
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ah so that already had it by rarity, thats good

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no they will do it inefficiently, if you want it done right, you gotta do it yourself

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thats the reason the auto battle AI is so bad

naive cobalt
velvet adder
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as long as they dont think its the same as that auto fill button in enhance menu BuckySmug

narrow sage
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on the maintence matter, most MMO maintences usually do tried/true stuff by their standards so it's not much hassle while This update involved something rather expermental by AL standards that has gone wrong in the past. In JP there was Maid training event that was similar and for the first few days, things were a complete mess.

minor robin
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AL's history with "raid" events have been troubled to say the least
Newcastle's had bugged rewards, Essex's needed to be nerfed

narrow sage
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Yep; IMO it's better to wait 2-3 extra hours than to be unable to play 6-9 afterwards.

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But I think the chronic issue is not really stress testing things well enough (hence when a surge of players does something, things go screwy)

velvet adder
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Wondering if there is any chance that they would improve Bache skin's plate. I understand why it was censored and I'm fine with it. Would be nice thou if they changed it to say like B4CH3 or something ThinkZed The current one makes no sense

narrow sage
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I think they were trying to do a quick solution.

flat vector
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License plates are just jumbles of letters and/or numbers, unless you just want it to be thematic thonk

minor robin
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It has been suggested and brought up to the devs

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However whether changes will be made is unlikely

velvet adder
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EN devs or CN/JP?

naive cobalt
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dev team is the same

velvet adder
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okay 👍

narrow sage
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the EN branch is mainly publishers/localizers IIRC

naive cobalt
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The current one makes no sense
Also Jif above provided quite likely explanations - circles are often used in Japan in place of "censoring" words, like you would use asteriks in English

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It makes more sense if you look at it this way

velvet adder
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Yeah it does, but for rest of the world it doesn't ThinkZed

narrow sage
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people are bitching about "the censoring" naturally.

naive cobalt
jade surge
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i explained why they couldnt accurately stress test for the specific problem they had in #off-topic a while ago

velvet adder
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Like I don't think it would be too much work to make it say 34CH3 or something. But thanks for the info 👍

narrow sage
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they usually do it partially anyways.

naive cobalt
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I understand it's not obvious, just providing some explanation that might make the decision clearer

faint hinge
velvet adder
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Well if JP people are fine with it, then I guess it is final 👍

jade surge
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shimoneta only censors itself in japanese though, in english theres no censoring anything they say

naive cobalt
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that's... not the point
he just showed an example of using circles that way

jade surge
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oh he meant the circles

white epoch
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circles use circles. also if the devs need to do a last minute decision again, is it cool to let them know that they can just hold off release for a moment just so they can sort it? the rush and timing gave no favours.

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like we're westerners, we're used to delays

faint hinge
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There was miscommunication between social network interns and upper management. Shit happens in companies because of the number of people involved and the delays in information getting around. If social media didn't jump the gun, none of you be any the wiser

white epoch
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While true, the gun has already been fired and has only been kinda quelled on Discord thanks to yourself and Ender. Just Twitter needs to be put in order but I guess the devs/yostar will probs address it later once server stability is handled.

faint hinge
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I wouldn't count on an official statement because there is stuff you can and can't say about your boss/client's decisions

lapis trellis
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(Suggestion)
The individual reward info tab should be less dark when the rewards are closed so that players can still see the rewards (they can still see it, but imo, it should be a little less dark)

white epoch
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Fair enough. But addressing the leaked image as "unfinished" and even further vaguely saying proper changes will be made in the future is still good enough without disclosing anything. It is just an unfortunate mess wrapped in day one patch technical issues.

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But that's still asking for much. What we learned so far today is still good to set things straight.

winter escarp
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Ty for wish event I was trying get this forever, now I can work on making all subs 120

gloomy mauve
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pressing max in wishing well stops when you don't have more resources, why is that not used for all builds?

jade surge
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this times a million^^^

rare jay
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Can't say WarShrug Apparently the standard one was set like that at one point but not anymore? Not sure. But it's been noted down either way

normal vine
shell bramble
normal vine
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but which button is for "No" - and does it mean I can still sortie, just without rewards?

winged compass
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the same buttons as all the other prompts
aka right one is a yes and left one a no rinYawn

normal vine
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@gloomy mauve @jade surge I could swear we had a ticket for that, but I can't find it ...

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@winged compass apparently not, it used up a ticket

jade surge
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do both options use it?

flat vector
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Best choice to back out is to use the red x probably

normal vine
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ah, fuck, too tired, I got left and right confused

jade surge
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which one did you click though

normal vine
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well, ultimately both

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blue uses a ticket, grey doesn't

rare jay
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The left hand option is for cancelling and the right hand one is for confirming

jade surge
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ah ok

wet brook
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So we can get an event ship the day after the event ends, but the event outfits are gone immediately? Really wanted Zara's swimsuit, but after I got her and checked the store, it was gone already.

flat vector
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You cannot get ships after the event ends just like the skins.

If you saw someone constructing an event unit today, it's because he/she didn't complete the build.

wet brook
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That's what I meant. Zara finished building this morning for me, but I couldn't get the skin anymore.
Just thought I'd recommend leaving event skins up in the store for another day since ships need to be built and can finish the day after. I wouldn't want to buy the skin if I don't have the ship yet.

burnt steeple
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Suggestion: Can we get the submarine to auto deploy when boss starts to appear? instead of deploying at the start of the stage. Thx

shell bramble
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It's been suggested previously

burnt steeple
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oh isee, thx

grizzled lily
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Given the newly introduced first event rerun, Visitors Dyed in Red, I feel like the time limit on the rerun is limited. Even though the compensation of having the construction pool is quite nice, I feel like there should be an extension from the 15 minutes to 20 minutes.

loud spire
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Hi Yostar team. I'm probably not the 1st one suggesting this, but is it possible if you guys could provide the shipfus' height in future updates? It'll greatly helps with the immersion. Thanks again and stay awesome.

jade surge
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#al-lore team here, they will NEVER give us heights because then we will catch them with some kind of contradiction

loud spire
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sad voice

ornate basin
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did they say that? FumizukiStare im unaware

jade surge
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it would also give us a bunch of useful information for measurements and we know they wouldnt make it easy

slate monolith
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Well the #al-lore members can be sticklers over that idea though

ornate basin
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if staff didnt say it then its still viable feedback

jade surge
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i mean its not official that they wont give heights but i would think they would already have done that

ornate basin
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well, still viable feedback then

slate monolith
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Well it could help over why some girls have different heights though

jade surge
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yeah its still feedback

ornate basin
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I mean, look at all our suggestions and tell us how many wont be accepted because they would already be in the game FumizukiStare

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well, I will still take it then

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just low change most likely

jade surge
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#al-lore just assumes the staff hates us as much as the mods do

loud spire
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If they do decided to implement heights, it'll probably take some time. Considering how many shipfus available now. That'll be nice tho.

jade surge
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tbh if they gave us 1 height we could probably figure out the rest

narrow sage
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I figure if we're going to use a side thing to judge, crosswave seems best considering how much data was given to them to model the kansen.

jade surge
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and the anime

ornate basin
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title was self explanatory kinda weird to rewrite it but

narrow sage
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Anime not so much considering anime adaptations can take so many liberties with things.

loud spire
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Well thanks, good ser/m'am. Maybe they'll put this into consideration.

ornate basin
narrow sage
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I wonder if my remark about hoping Victorious gets buffed was noted or not (she eriously got the short end of the stick for an event SR/SSR)

dreamy loom
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have there's been suggestion about shields reworks?

normal vine
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@dreamy loom rework how?

naive cobalt
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@narrow sage I thought it was suggested before, but it was for Glorious. I'll add the card, but maybe you should be more specific in what areas she should be buffed and why exactly?

narrow sage
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mainly her skills, maybe up the double damage proc chance from the lowly number to say 40-50%. Well +10% on battleships and 25% IIRC of double damage at SLv10 is more befitting of a Elite/SR than an SR/SSR. But I hope whoever mentioned Glorious mentioned changing the last limit break perk's "fighters (I think)+1" to "all planes+1 like most other ships as that's her main flaw.

naive cobalt
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It's about her plane count, yes

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Unlike most CVs, Glorious is one of 2 of them with just 7 instead of the usual 8 planes (Vert being the other). In addition to that, she has very mediocre efficiencies that do not cover for her weakness, making her one of the worst carriers in the game. A buff to at least giv...

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narrow sage
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I didn't touch on efficencies as that's usually beyond the reach of balance patches and would open up a sizable can of worms (a number of old units have flawed by today's standards efficencies)

naive cobalt
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Maybe up the double damage proc chance from the lowly number to say 40-50%. Well +10% on battleships and 25% IIRC of double damage at SLv10 is more befitting of a Elite/SR than an SR/SSR. But I hope whoever mentioned Glorious mentioned changing the last limit break perk's "fi...

Labels

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narrow sage
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I also brought it up because how the game has Victorious in the Siren/Code G story thread, generally treated as a protagonist figure and praised by Code G. And how things are, she's the weakest sister overall (Lusty has her niche, and Middy's able to stop/slow, mob clear or boss)

dreamy loom
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@normal vine shield rework like making them generally less countered by PVE spam of trash bullet. maybe making the shields each more durable and won't succumb to sheer bullet spam of the enemy.
as it is, shields are very gimmicky and rarely useful. it takes someone who can spam them (zara) to make it viable and useful in PVE

naive cobalt
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Well, I found Roons shield extremely helpful when leveling low-ish level units, but ye, if your name isn't Roon (with sheer amount) or Zara (spamability) - it's pretty much useless

winged compass
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poor prinz PrinzLaugh

dreamy loom
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poor norfolk too

winged compass
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norwho? MutsukiHyperStare

dreamy loom
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just the worst CA in the game, or at least low enough to contend for that title

shy pond
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All the County-class without refits and Myoko/Nachi are bad...

faint hinge
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Slap on a damage buff while the shield holds or something

shy pond
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More CA refits needed, definitely

static needle
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👀 Changing skin details like Bache at the very last minute after announcement shouldnt happen again

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Its basically false advertising again UniSip

ornate basin
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not sure that is something we can control

naive cobalt
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EN never advertised the skin

ornate basin
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if I dont get my ship with 6 fingers im gonna be angry EntyMad

winged compass
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damn kawa MutsukiHyperStare

naive cobalt
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not sure that is something we can control
that is not

cursive plank
naive cobalt
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why... would we announce CN/JP hot fixes?

analog jay
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Alec should alrdy cover that

cursive plank
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Same for the loading screen freeze, editing meowficers or the fleet before entering the map cause the freeze, so if you want to do EX now its beet to adjust fleet, quit game before starting the battle

ornate basin
cursive plank
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It isn't an announcement tho, and people aren't told the workaround method

ornate basin
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did cn and jp describe a workaround?

naive cobalt
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we'll bring this up

cursive plank
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Its in the picture I posted?

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EX freeze can be get around by not adjusting fleet or meowficers before entering the battle

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Samsung phones that can't adjust fleet by tapping can get around by long pressing it

naive cobalt
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Its in the picture I posted?
not to start a fight, but uhh...

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it's in CN

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it's not really a safe assumption that people know chinese

dreamy loom
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on "false advertising". i think the bismarckhaus dorm set have a different pattern of floor between the one in game and the one in the twitter announcement LeanderXD
not really complaining or asking it to be changed, just... a bit of fun thing i noticed

cursive plank
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Communicating the problems and ways to get around it asap is good for player experiences and it technically costs nothing on your front, I just think when there is a bug where EN and CN shares it can be communicated as soon as a solution emerges

narrow sage
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agreed though somtimes a CN/JP thing may not work for EN due to a number of particularities (namely not syncing 100% in a number of areas like the Air Superiority sub system) Btw any reason why that was withheld from EN? IMO releasing it to EN would have people get used to it with earlier world's more reasonble quotas.

dreamy loom
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what exactly are those hotfix anyway?

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alright, found a translation of it

The patch contains fixes for the following bugs, 
- Crossing Waves EX stage freezing during battle
- UI unresponsiveness of the fleet composition
- Unintended damage reduction of Georgia's skill in Mock Battle```
do we even have the 1st bug?
naive cobalt
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There's a bug with freezing on loading screen, but doubt it's the same one and most likely was caused by connection issues anyway

dreamy loom
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ohhh, there's the hotfix
sounds kinda different

shy pond
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Yea, I had the freezing bug... Happened once, but still annoying

shell bramble
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You still had it happen to you after you downloaded the hotfix this morning?

shy pond
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Now that I think about it.... Yes..

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Samsung J5.. Or it have been caused by a switch from 4G to 2G internet. Don't ask, shoddy coverage

soft arch
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i just found out that the button in the lower right which displays your contribution points is clickable, and it shows rewards based on your contributions. I honestly didnt know it was a button and pressed on it randomly. That kinda design is terrible

smoky robin
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the new dorm set has a too much limted time. players going for the italien dorm set wont have that much coins....

rare jay
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Well the Italian dorm set has been available for a while, and still will be available for about another half a month (for a total of one month availability). And the new dorm set is much cheaper in comparison as to allow for some flexibility with coins. Not trying to diminish your point, but that's the reasoning behind the short time for it. It only cost about 1.4k coins or so for a one-tap w/ no duplicates

winged compass
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also there's been quite a bit of break from dorm sets before these 2, unless if someone is literally new it should be fine UniSip
aside from the thing toast said

velvet adder
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$1 isn't being replaced with the appropriate string

minor robin
rich bridge
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why are the a 15 min time limit with the war archives on top you only get 2 a day?

slate monolith
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Does this mean I pay everytime she fires that?

rich bridge
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i dont think so

minor robin
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why are the a 15 min time limit with the war archives on top you only get 2 a day?

to balance out making previously limited event maps permanently accessible

frigid stag
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Is there any chance we can get an equipment lock in the future? Because for the life of me I cannot find where my 3rd Heavy AP shell went and unless the game bugged... ¯_(ツ)_/¯ the only other possibility is that I disassembled it myself

shell bramble
frigid stag
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kek its almost a year old

shell bramble
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You're not wrong

winged compass
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didnt they add that secondary password thingie for equips too? AkkoThink

frigid stag
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i dont want to put in a password every time my equips get near 300

wind lagoon
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Is being able to fight your friends a feature suggested?

minor robin
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yes

velvet adder
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Have the game make a sound/vibrate/anything to let me know a battle has finished BuckySmug

flat vector
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Isn't there already a notification setting for this?

velvet adder
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pretty sure it used to vibrate on battle end but they removed it due to a bug

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as far as i know there is not

flat vector
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nevermind then lul1

rare jay
velvet adder
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no i mean like an alert at the end of battle

ornate basin
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so.. regardless of auto?

rare jay
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That's what that is. It's vibrates (at least for me when my vibration is on) when auto battles finish

velvet adder
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yeah

ornate basin
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ive one upped the master EntyHeh

velvet adder
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i assumed that was just for the "youre on auto, did you know?" at the start of battle

rare jay
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Nah, it's an alert for when one auto finishes

ornate basin
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yep

velvet adder
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then its badly worded BuckySmug

ornate basin
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ehh

hollow grail
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That's what I assumed too

velvet adder
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cos i turned it off trying to stop that stupid "auto battle alert" which the thing essentially is

ornate basin
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yet you still get it with it off? ZkkBore

velvet adder
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yes

ornate basin
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probably means its not for that then SandyWink

velvet adder
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i dunno the game is buggy as shit BuckySmug i tick the "do not remind me again" button and it always reminds me

ornate basin
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its a daily reminder

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so are you suggesting the vibrate regardless of auto?

velvet adder
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yeah or make a sound, since i have no idea what happens when an emulator vibrates

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and i assume a lot of people do play on emulator BuckySmug

ornate basin
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it also makes a sound

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iirc it makes a little trill

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@rare jay can u handle this one maybe? FumizukiStare ~~I have to get back to work TaihouScared ~~

velvet adder
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just waiting for my battle to end to test it LaffeyDrink

jade surge
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this IS your job kawa

velvet adder
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ok yeah youre right it does make a little sound, wish i knew thats what the setting actually was

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does anyone know if that sound is under sound effects or voice LaffeyDrink so i can mute the others

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but yeah my bad

rare jay
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Testing something w/ it. One sec

velvet adder
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yeah i wish my hard mode battles didnt take 2 mins+ to finish HoodSmug

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i think its sound effects LaffeyDrink

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now i have to have sound on with the loud guns SadFace

rare jay
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Yeah, itseems to under SE for the sound part of it. And so is there a request to have an option for it to trigger regardless of auto? Although tbh, I see no reason for one under manual b/c you're already looking at the screen when your manual battling

ornate basin
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pretty much

velvet adder
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id also like it to make the sound when sound effects is muted if possible BuckySmug

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since the sound is actually relatively quiet compared to clicking stuff on the ui and the guns

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maybe my request would be to boost the volume of it compared to other sound effects

rare jay
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both are on there as well

velvet adder
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RenownThumbsUp thank you, sorry im very demanding AkagiLUL

rare jay
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No problem at all YukiPat

velvet adder
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Has there been any word on the Bache situation from EN team? Is it impossible to alter it to say 64CH3 or something? Would be nice if there was an official statement.RenownThumbsUp

rare jay
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There is not and since it's the weekend if there will be a response it won't be until they're back in office. But as said before, they might not be able to give one so there's no guarantee

velvet adder
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It was Friday today and nobody asked ThinkZed Well, would still be nice if they, for example, say that it is impossible to change it due the Yamaha collab or something. It would bring closure for the people who care, myself included BuckySmile

ornate basin
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we cannot guarantee a same day reply

velvet adder
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Yeah, figured. Hopefully we hear something next week RenownThumbsUp

naive cobalt
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we cannot guarantee a reply period

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just be advised
we relayed the message, but doesn't mean they will give answer

velvet adder
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If there's not any kind of reply, that would be sad since devs are usually pretty open about things. I understand that there might be something sensitive about the whole situation but making a small statement would not harm anyone in my opinion ThinkZed Anyways, thanks. Hopefully in the future there won't be situations where skins need to be altered/changed RenownThumbsUp

naive cobalt
drifting zealot
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Can we get more road tiles for the "On the Road" dorm set?
On the preview picture they used multiple tiles to build a road, but we only got one single piece.
So we can't build a road like in the preview.

ornate basin
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I have planned to communicate to staff about it

drifting zealot
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thanks DorkHeart

normal vine
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it would also need more fences, preview shows three or four, you only get one

stiff cove
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this might be an unnecessary suggestion, but it'd be one i'd very much like, could a tab inside either the docks or the depot be shown/pressable where it previews all the skins you've bought for money?

an example would be, for skins you've bought and/or have for characters you don't have yet, so one would know what things you'd still have without forgettin by waiting on reruns for months on end.

dreamy loom
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i think that's been suggested some time ago. a way to view the character skins you've bought without clicking said ship.
or maybe it's only for weapon skins?
i think it's both

rare jay
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It has been suggested to have a skin inventory. And you're already able to view all your gear skins

stiff cove
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@rare jay not gear skins, Shipgirl skins incase ya meant it like that

rare jay
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It has been suggested to have a skin inventory
This was meant for shipgirl skins. I was just adding on the gear skin part in regards to the other users inquiry about a gear skin inventory

celest abyss
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But we already have thing like that for gear skin Fumizoomi

rare jay
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And you're already able to view all your gear skins
Yes, I said that EntyHeh

dreamy loom
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yeah, i know we can see all the weapon skins we have. i am just unsure if the suggestion about skin inventory specifically refer to shipgirl's one or just weapon one, or just a general skin inventory

stiff cove
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Well...since i have skins for a couple of Shipgirls i Do not have, i meant that, so in a Months time where i Possibly could've forgotten i had em (Due to wait for reruns etc)

i can see in a tab what Shipgirl skins i've bought, to ones i dont have yet

rare jay
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Yes. It's been suggested to have a skin inventory for shipgirls. Here's the card for reference: https://trello.com/c/fUy2Eygq/445-skin-inventory

Some way to see how many and which skins you own, including free ones as shop only displays currently available skins with no way to see shop/event-limited.

To expand on this idea: perhaps have an inventory like the ships collection page where you can see ALL skins in the en...

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dreamy loom
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dammed, ninja-ed

shell bramble
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Suggestion: When limit breaking ships, if you're using an identical one (as opposed to a bulin/purin), present the screen for disassembling the gear from the spare ship, like during enhancement / selling for medals Never mind, found that one

nocturne tulip
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Sort by marriage EntyHeh

jade surge
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mods flaunting their weekly allowance of gems

minor robin
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Suggested, fyi can just add them to favourites in the meantime @nocturne tulip

nocturne tulip
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waw

mellow gyro
proper hedge
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is there any suggestions made to fix/improve ryuusei targeting?
like it targets the production mob instead of the boss, i've seen that happen plenty of times in scherzo and ashen d3

haughty dune
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Hi again. Still enjoying the game, but please consider a third floor for the dorm. @_@;

shell bramble
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What would the third floor be used for?

haughty dune
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Keep 5 more shipfus rested and happy. 😄

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Just looking out for muh shipfus!

shell bramble
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So same functionality as the second floor?

haughty dune
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Pretty much. Also with all of our furniture, would be nice to use more of 'em at once, and not just keep cycling them.

merry elm
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I wanna add on that, perhaps the floor gives a minor morale boost (like the first floor) and maybe boosts affinity gained from battles.
Gotta Oath all them shipfu.

haughty dune
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All the same, I'd be happy with just an additional floor that has the same benefits as the 2nd floor. :v

ivory seal
#

put a ricardo gif as an ingame emote

minor robin
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No.

distant nebula
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Increase the character limit

shell bramble
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Of what?

minor robin
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Assuming in chat

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It's a limitation as a result of the client originally designed for JP/CN characters

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It has been suggested to increase it

normal vine
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fleet/ship/dorm name has the same problem, but in that case it'd also need UI changes to accomodate the extra characters

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you'd have thought they would have considered that for the UI update ...

faint hinge
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You don’t know how many times we tried to stress that point

normal vine
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I can imagine

faint hinge
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Then they come back with even more vertical text boxes than before

gritty belfry
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Sigh, this drop rate of gold bp has been insanely impossible, tomorrow is exactly 7 days since not single gold bp was dropped on hard stages, it was never like this. Same with crosswave hard stage too, 45 tries in 3 days, only 1 gold ryuusei bp was dropped, im getting sadder and sadder as this goes on. As other concerns I was emphasizing on, I am NOT repeating those concerns to make it quicker to happen, I am merely wanting to know if devs are actually working on them (a confirmation of what future projects is reassuring players )

minor robin
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There's a reason gold drop rate on the raid event is anecdotally lower

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Unlike in events, where gold BP drop on boss and siren/elite nodes only, making up about half the attacks of a single run capable of dropping gold BP

gritty belfry
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No that event is a side thing, but im talking about hard stages, i havent been getting a single gold bp at all, 3 tries a day , today is 6th day , nothing, so 18 tries no gold bp

minor robin
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Here you have a chance to drop it on every attempt, and you can do it as much as your oil allows at a lower cost since you don't need to survive multiple nods

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the 15 tries only give you increased drops, and doesn't prevent you from "farming" it if you exceed the 15

gritty belfry
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ok the hard stages im talking about is normal chapter, not the event, i'll clear that confusion up

naive cobalt
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I am merely wanting to know if devs are actually working on them (a confirmation of what future projects is reassuring players )
we can't confirm or clear up anything about it, even if we knew about their future plans and we don't

gritty belfry
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before the gold bp drop was fairly satisfied , i was able to get maybe 1 gold bp every 2 days or so, sometimes even 2 in 1 day, but now the normal chapter hard stages is botched, at least 6 days not a single gold bp, if im counting right. i wonder if some changes were made to lower this rate. it is pretty apparant

naive cobalt
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you got extremely lucky before then

shell bramble
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I think that player research around the time of w6 hard mode coming out, put it at around 6.5% maybe? Might be a bit more than that now in w8, but ultimately RNG is RNG

naive cobalt
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from my personal experience, I get gold BP maybe once in 4-5 days and I know people who would call me a lucksack due to it

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and 4-5 days is not a consistent number

minor robin
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Player based data gathering for hard mode t3 BP drop rates approximates an increase of 1% increase per increased in chapter LaffeyDrink

gritty belfry
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i just think rng is rng is an excuse or miserable reason to call it. who wouldnt want some return after certain effort put in. When u constantly farm for something, if u get 1 return result then i can call it fine, but if u think that 7 days nothing even a single return is just unfortunate then im speechless. this is where it turns people off an away for good. rng is rng (i dont buy it) i believe in effort = at least some return.

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and those "lucky" times were when i farmed w5 or less, starting w6+, its rates are ridiculously bad. idk why but shouldnt it be the higher world or challange it is, the more rewarding it should be? cause ur putting more effort to it?

naive cobalt
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Not arguing there
but you saying that chances were reduced
and they weren't

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that's the part we answering "it's RNG" to

gritty belfry
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i just believe that rng is rng up to a certain point, but when its higher challange, then rewards should be higher too, in this case the rate up? but ever since i go to w6+ hard mode, i got nothng. so i feel punished for more difficulty challange

naive cobalt
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if you have specific suggestions how to reduce the RNG - I would be happy to take them

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but not "I've run HM for 6 days and haven't got anything, rates were skewed"

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personal perception of RNG would never be objective, it's on such a low scale, you can't judge it even approximately

gritty belfry
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then up its rate per world , i saw the global data collective too, it says w3-5 are tad better to farm, which i could believe so, since my luck was better before, but higher worlds give less rate for gold bp drop but a tad increase in core data . should it really be this way

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shouldnt it be the lesser challange it is , the less rewards u get, so why make something disproportionate, its like ur makin players to choose : a. u want more core data or b. u want gold bp drop rate more. so essentially ur saying core data is worth more than gold bp since higher worlds give more core data while farming gold bp there has less successful rate

minor robin
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Err what

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I question the accuracy about said data massively
Given i've seen more that prove they (w3-5) have worse, on EN and CN

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In any case, anecdotal data doesn't account for much without massive numbers

gritty belfry
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i forgot where i found that date on reddit so, if u think my concern is rng based then there is really nothing to fix it, only way is to guarantee it but its another huge project, so i have nothing else to say. its up to what the devs are doing then, since there wont be any reassurance until its done.

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thanks for ur time

narrow sage
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from what I heard, it's better to farm higher worlds for gold BPs as the rates a slightly higher there

quartz hill
naive cobalt
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yes

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it's known, we suggested to do something about it, but it's tricky

slate monolith
#

Essex is fine but Sus*** isn't still

naive cobalt
chilly skiff
#

This is likely very wishful thinking, but would be good if we could potentially get fairey albacores from tech boxes for people like me who were too dumb to spend event points on the plane or farm enough blueprints and now will be unable to use one of Formidable's skills. :(

slate monolith
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If you type Essex in lowercase it sometimes ends up being hit or miss you know @naive cobalt

shy pond
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Here is a relatively well-proven point I have encountered concering a ship reballance. Javelin. After many tests (Even vs. Suruga in Crosswave), I have concluded that my initial assumption was correct. She is in need of some boost so she can get up there with the other starters. Her main gimmick is the EVA stat boost, which drops off massively with higher levels. Additionally, her torpedoes for the EX barrage drop assymetrically, making them very difficult to predict. Furthermore, her overall damage output is by far lower than any of the other starters. Thus I suggest the averaging of her EX barrage torpedo angles (more consistent hits) and increasing the duration of the TRP stat boost that comes with it by 3-5s (suggested before, but a very well though-out suggestion), so you can get at the very least a single torpedo salvo off under that buff. Secondly, to make her what her archetype seems to be and comparing her to all the other starters, I suggest a slight increase in FP and gun efficiency as to remedy the fact she does not excel in any of the categories (She should have a middle-ground value of FP unlike what the comparison puts her at)

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Unless we were talking Z23 and Laffey vs. Heavy boss, Javelin was consistently doing relatively lower damage than was achieved by the other ships. Finally, when put against Suruga with Ayanami, I only got 60% of Ayanami's damage with Javelin on two separate occasions even though Javelin had more EX triggers (not helped by the first point I made, since it robbed me od at least a single torp hit)

naive cobalt
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I can't say I agree with all of things you wrote, but all of it is valid, so I'll add it to the card we already have

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card for reference (all it had is the suggestion to increase her FP, which you touched on in your messages, so I just replaced it superkot ) https://trello.com/c/aFbCpx8x/503-buff-to-javelin

"Here is a relatively well-proven point I have encountered concering a ship reballance. Javelin. After many tests (Even vs. Suruga in Crosswave), I have concluded that my initial assumption was correct. She is in need of some boost so she can get up there with the other start...

Votes

7

Labels

OBT, High Priority, Gameplay Balance Suggestions

merry spruce
shell bramble
analog jay
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Between the biker dorm set, there's difference between the JP announced one and EN, is this the right channel?

naive cobalt
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Yes, it's known

analog jay
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Ok thanks res👌

velvet adder
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Suggestion: a 10v10 mode for PvP with five ships in each vanguard and main fleet.

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I'd like to believe it'd show us many new and exciting things.

void schooner
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Like how fast a phone can cook?

velvet adder
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10 airstrikes all going off at the same time won't be that bad.

thorn musk
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they can't even accept subs and cats on pvp, doubt it.

supple vigil
#

Finally got 2 actuall solutions to azurlane not working in splitscreen.

Suggestion: implement "Multi resume"

Google has finally implemented a "multi resume" function into android Q (the new android)
See here: https://source.android.com/devices/tech/display/multi_display/multi-resume

Sadly this will only let the app actually function in multi window on android Q and up.

If azurlane staff would like multi window to work on older android versions they should just, take all the code that stops UI refreshing that is currently in "onPause{code}" and just cut/paste it to "onStop{}". People on forums say thats the official fix.

celest abyss
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Haven't they already done #2 so that it depends on the phone itself?

supple vigil
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aha dont know.

celest abyss
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Much as I'd like to fix it for my Pixel, that's what I hear unfortunately

supple vigil
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#2 is the method which youtube and chrome use. and those 2 work great on my phone together. so somehow UI refresh is still stopped in azur.

hollow grail
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Not strictly about the game itself, but in the Trello site I notice that the Approved/Fixed column never seems to be updated, and I've noticed cards that have had their features implemented to the game. Is this a limitation of the site that disallow for convinent card reorganization?

minor robin
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While we can move it ourselves with ease

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We decided to leave it to the staff themselves to move them to that category

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to avoid any potential miscomms

hollow grail
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Ahh, I see, that makes sense

ornate basin
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like 90% were archived

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by us, rather

heavy marsh
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can you please change the store to automatically converts the price to my device local currency like how Epic7, GFL JP, and others game does?
Its really depressing not being able to purchase anything since google wont allow foreign purchase, my docks space already at 337/340
FYI I didn't have CC/DC

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@bleak vale

tardy arch
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pretty sure the en staff don't have a say for what goes on in the jp version.
also you're not supposed to ping staff like that and intern can't change it on the spot even if he wanted to.

narrow sage
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Not sure if this handles JP stuff like this; this is mainly for the EN server. And you don' have google pay connected to paypal or such?

heavy marsh
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sorry for the ping

ornate basin
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we dont handle anything jp

heavy marsh
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you need CC/DC linked to your paypal account or you'll get error code "OR-PPLEH-16" or "OR-PPLEH-15"

ornate basin
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we do not take feedback for other servers

heavy marsh
tardy arch
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really your only option to buy stuff on the jp version is to use a CC. unless you can somehow get more money onto your google play account. (google play cards and the like)

narrow sage
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Since someone brough up the connection, what about plans to update the medal exchange sometime in the future. I have both my bank card and account connected to my paypal and I have no issues.

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Don't think AL JP takes non-JP money on a google play balance.

ornate basin
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we have no eta on those plans

bleak vale
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@heavy marsh EN staff have no say for JP version sry for that

heavy marsh
ornate basin
plain coral
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can i enable auto-sub for the crosswave event

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so i can easily level subs in a very extremely lazy manner

merry elm
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Nope, There is no Auto-sub for Crosswave

normal vine
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random thought, but how about a Lucky Clover gear item that increases LCK and activation chance for chance-based skills? (by 10% or so)

dreamy loom
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10% sounds way too big IMO

naive cobalt
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@normal vine Not a bad idea, but 10% is really bit too much and we can't take suggestions for new equipment anyway

fresh plover
#

Why is hoods voice so soft?

jade surge
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does the luck stat actually affect chance?

naive cobalt
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no

jade surge
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then yeah i think % chance increasing gear would be a cool idea

normal vine
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@naive cobalt I based it on existing skills, like Vittorio's

naive cobalt
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Littorio skill only affects Littorio and needs her to use subpar gun WarPat

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10% is a lot when you can put it on anyone you want

shell bramble
jade surge
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yeah def not 10% unless its like a +10 gold

naive cobalt
jade surge
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but restart they could make it only affect the chances that increase with the skills

naive cobalt
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and discussion is moot since, as I said, we can't take suggestions for new equipment WarPat

jade surge
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so lvl 10 ironblood pioneer would do 70% FP

naive cobalt
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this doesn't make any sense, 60% FP is not a "chance"

jade surge
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chance was wrong word

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but thats how they could keep it from entirely breaking the game

#

instead of affecting the chance of the skill, it would basically just add levels to the skill

normal vine
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@naive cobalt yeah, but for stuff like Big 7, where the chance to trigger increases with level

shy pond
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Simple solution: Allow main effect of a skill to be increased by 10% of its trigger rate/ 10% of ots effect... Means that you get leniency with the main effect definition and you would not get it as super-manadatory for something like the Big Seven. But it is just theorising since no feedback on that sadly...

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Ah, by the by, buffs to Nelson and Rodney? It is sad to see Rodney, the ship who sunk Bismarck be outrated by some of the others.... No mention of it in her bio either. Plus she may have had the only capital ship-to-capital ship torpedo strike in history

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Same could be said for the Colorados. Both get somewhat overshadowed by the Combined fleet flagships even though every one of them was a flagship at one point or the other

flint walrus
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I would like to suggest a feature to toggle hide craft designs that we have no interest in completing in the DEPOT/CRAFT menu.
As well as adding the amount of designs in possession when checking the drop info for a specific design on a map node.
Would be really helpful for all the event exclusive equipment that is frequently farmed.

hollow ember
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If subs count for some of those third stars on events, they oughta be able to contribute some amount to the stat requirements.

void schooner
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They only affect the "# of ships deployed" star whenever that shows up, which is appropriate. And unless something requires an insane amount of TRP stat, they really wouldn't be contributing anything else to the requirements.

warm bridge
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give suruga

rare jay
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We can't take feedback regarding the release of content (including Suruga), sorry to say

steady cape
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Suggestion: introduce a pvp mechanic for friends on your friend list. No reward, just for fun.

rare jay
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It's been suggested before to have such a function. Card for reference as well sandyWink https://trello.com/c/jCyQ4v7P/427-friendly-pvp

I'd love if this game allows you to enter exercises to challenge your friend or guildmate, with no cost and rewards given. It'll allow for more fun bragging rights and also testing meme fleets.

Votes

25

Labels

OBT, Low Priority

elfin lintel
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I would like to see a oath skin for laffey and Z~23 seeing as if im not mistaken they are the only two of the starter squad without one

shell bramble
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You aren't mistaken, but as per the pins in this channel, they aren't taking suggestion on brand-new content at this time (ships, skins, etc.)

elfin lintel
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Did not check the pins sorry

frigid shadow
dreamy loom
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yeah it is
go report it

hazy mason
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Hello I need support where can I get some?

void schooner
#

Depends on what you need.

hazy mason
#

I need account support

ornate basin
minor robin
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It's been reported as a bug

ornate basin
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its not a bug

dreamy loom
#

so it's meant to not have exit button?

ornate basin
#

yes

dreamy loom
#

weird. i guess i'll just hope to never need to scroll in that menu

plain coral
#

i miss challenge mode

ornate basin
plain coral
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it gave me a reason to use capped botes

winged compass
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just wait for season 2 owoYawn2
also you dont really need a reason to use em ye pleb

plain coral
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bring it back LongCryland

minor robin
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We can't take feedback on event pacing like this

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Yes, asking to bring back an event counts

ornate basin
#

LeanderXD is like asking for an event to come back

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all I can say is

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hey it will probably have a rerun!

plain coral
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darn

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i just wanted it to become a permanent end-game thing

merry elm
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@restive mountain There's a hidden back button at the top left, it just has no graphic.

ornate basin
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there is no hidden back button

merry elm
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There is
Try it

ornate basin
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just tap the black

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just

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tap outside of the screen TaihouScared

tardy arch
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there's not. if you click/tap anywhere outside of the boxes the window will close.

ornate basin
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a lot of menus work exactly like that

merry elm
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Weird' that's never worked for me thinku

ornate basin
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like me getting frustrated when I accidentally tap the back instead of the button UniCry

earnest compass
#

Can I submit my idea for a gamemode (that'll never get implemented) here?

minor robin
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As long as it's not an event yeah

earnest compass
#

Alright, get ready for a very disorganized wall of text

#

Strategic Assault
-There will be a number of friendly nodes along with your shipgirl fleet positioned to one side, with the enemy in the other in a rather large map.
-You can use 2 fleets to sortie, and there will be 2 Elite fleets on the enemy side as well
-Killing enemy nodes will reduce an overall percentage gauge. Production ship nodes will respawn for a certain number of times before stopping, while Elite nodes can respawn infinitely but with a few turns of cooldown.
-Killing elites will reward you with the ability to call in Strategic Attacks automatically every few kills, which will lower the percentage gauge by a cetain amount as well as either dealing severe damage or destroy a production fleet or two outright (depending on Strategic Attack type)

  • Your shipgirl fleets are much more susceptible to being sunk but can respawn with a timer (3 turns?)
    -The enemy elites will move every turn just like you and with the same amount of tiles too
    -Upon reaching a friendly node there is a chance for either the elite to be sunk or the production fleet to be sunk with the elite taking a random amount of damage. Either way, it will take them a couple of turns to do either.
    -The Strategic Attacks mentioned above will take a few turns to arrive, and will only deal a set amount of percentage dip to the enemy fleet, not enough for you to only take out Elites.
    -Elites do not count in the percentage gauge, forcing you to engage the production fleets
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Depending on implementation (pve or an extension of Exercises), combat with elites will either be like your bog-standard elite fleet or like Exercises

earnest compass
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One necessary change to how turns work will be needed: attacking a fleet will count as a turn.

sharp creek
#

aew we able to limit break over lvl 100 yet on Washington? if so how do i do it

minor robin
#

And yes you can, please ask there

main moth
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I would love for an option to have my fleets sorted in dock by the fleets they are in Fleet 1 ships are all besides each other and all of Fleet 2 ships are all besides each other. It's a very minor thing but would be a nice quality of life change to have that as an option

hollow grail
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Just a minor suggestion: To offset the default camera a little to the right in PvP fights, so that the icons for backline shipgirls on your side don't flicker each time the camera shakes from guns firing

jade surge
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But cant you just move the camera in pvp?

shell bramble
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Sure, but the standard entry experience is subpar sometimes / on some devices

rare jay
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@main moth It's been suggested before in our compilation card for sorting under No.9 specifically. Card for reference as well SandyWink https://trello.com/c/qYfpGxJy/680-additional-sort-options-ideas
@hollow grail Got the suggestion created for you. Card for reference SandyWink https://trello.com/c/ED1Ju5yg/916-all-show-both-backlines-hp-bars

A compilation of additional ideas/improvements for sort options:

  1. Sort by affection
  2. Sort by name
    -If a ship is renamed due to Oath, perhaps have it still sort by default name
  3. Sort by oil cost
  4. Sort commissions by time remaining
  5. Sort by skill(s) levels
  6. Sort...
Votes

9

Labels

Full Release, High Priority

For many players, their main fleet's HP bars will either not natural show, forcing the player to have to move the camera, or the bar will constantly flicker as if it wants to come onto the screen but is not close enough.
Have it to where the HP bars will show up for both flee...

main moth
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Thank you Toaster!

hollow grail
#

Same, much obliged!

cursive horizon
#

Where did Cleveland’s road trip outfit go? It had no timer and was there a couple days ago when I got Essex’s!

ornate basin
#

it was a limited purchase skin

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no timer

cursive horizon
#

It should’ve said it had x days left but it didn’t.

ornate basin
#

well, it was sure supposed to

cursive horizon
#

I just bought Gems thinking it’d still be there. Kinda bummed now.

shell bramble
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Are you sure that it didn't? Cause I could've sworn that when I previously looked at it a couple weeks ago, it did have a timer

ornate basin
#

I mean we wont take reports on it anyways

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its too late, and not much evidence

velvet adder
#

i want more sr ships plz

ornate basin
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we do not take feedback on ships SandyWink

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(rarity included)

mellow gyro
dreamy loom
#

that honestly sounds like someone's cry after seeing #trophy-room content tbh
not even a real feedback VickyXD

velvet adder
#

Make that you could sort archives by a-z

distant wadi
minor robin
#

Known limitation regarding accented letters

distant wadi
#

is there any information on why this restriction was implemented and/or any future developments?

minor robin
#

No and no

distant wadi
dreamy loom
#

After comparing jp and en ads for dorm set... Why do they make 2 version of it? Why not just use jp version for the en one? What's the reason to make 2 image for the same set?

static needle
#

where is my pr2 HelenaOi

minor robin
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@naive cobalt will answer lovhes question

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As for where's PR2?

"When a sufficient portion of the playerbase has completed a good amount of PR1"

It's vague

naive cobalt
#

Why not just use jp version for the en one?
because we're not JP and each server has its own promo images
why would we use JP one

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If issue is with it being inaccurate - it's completely different issue and we already brought it up with the team

dreamy loom
#

Why do en and jp use different image for dorm set ads/twitter preview?

ornate basin
#

every client has its own format for previews of anything and server announcements

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its just how they tend to work

naive cobalt
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not like we'll be able to answer about higher level PR decisions even if we knew reasons behind them

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again - if the issue is with inaccuracies - it was addressed

dreamy loom
#

Aight then. Not really hoping to get any concrete answer. Nice to hear that the people facing staff don't know too I guess

heavy lodge
#

couldnt some of the files, like maybe image and audio, be compressed to even slightly reduce the overall size of the game? I can understand the live2d and battle animation taking a decent chunk on their own, but the rest could probably take a tad less

flat vector
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99% chance the game files are already compressed in some way. Uncompressed files are huge (generally speaking)

naive cobalt
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game without audio files only takes around 1Gb which is already pretty low for most mobile games
any lower is probably impossible without sacrificing quality in massive way

shell bramble
#

Related, and possibly getting at your main concern, there have been proposed suggestions for being able to selectively download certain audio / L2D files, in order to tailor it down to just the ones desired (although no indicator for whether devs will implement that suggestion)

winged compass
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you can already selectively download l2d files rinYawn

naive cobalt
#

I can understand the live2d and battle animation taking a decent chunk on their own
l2d take barely anything btw

winged compass
sharp gust
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is this where i ask this?

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the rails and road is small?

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i also noticed that this thing has a rotation function but you cannot even rotate it. similarly to the bridge from the Queen Elizabeth dorm set.

drifting edge
#

There should be more dorm music options

cursive horizon
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Agreed on the music, it gets kinda stale after a while, no matter how pleasant. But if I'm upset about anything it's the fact that due to two dorm sets running simultaneously I'll not be able to finish both. :<

tight acorn
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Your Rally Request event is pure RNG based, I really hope you don't make future things like this

tardy arch
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i don't see how as it's completely player controlled. yes you're "randomly picked" but there's still a person behind that decision. not a bot.

winged compass
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its not 'purely' rng based, sure, if you dont do anything, it is 'rng', but you're kinda supposed to seek out out returnees/newbies and ask them to enter your code n all that

tight acorn
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I mean why not let current players select other current players

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or seek out

tardy arch
#

you can. you just gotta do it yourself.

naive cobalt
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because... whole point is to provide incentive for new players to get into the game/old players to return

tight acorn
naive cobalt
tight acorn
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Whelp I guess I gotta pray, thanks.

flat vector
#

Fushi, you can always just say that your feedback is that you dislike this system and you wish to not have it in future events.

winged compass
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I'll just say the event is pretty funny since you can just switch server on your own account, and enter your UID in the other server, do the tasks and get past stage 20 in your own account,
technically shouldnt happen but it does KEK

naive cobalt
#

again - the whole point is to get new/old players

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"not to have it in future events" means not to have this event just in general

flat vector
#

I try to get all my old friends who used to play back into it all the time and they refuse lul1

It's lame to be gated if you can't meet the condition

tight acorn
#

not have this mechanic, or you can solely limit it to new and returning players

hollow grail
#

Look at it this way, you still get half the stuff if you don't have another person linked up

tight acorn
#

I've tried to get my friends back to play AL, but this was not the thing they bit on

naive cobalt
#

I find it funny that people complain so much because they were given most rewards for free but not all of them

tight acorn
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I'll grind for it

flat vector
#

I think the point is mainly, the vast majority of content can be done alone and I like that part of AL.

Introducing rewards based on interactions with other people is not something I enjoy.