you were the one that, despite not being either discord staff or an assistant to them, decided to counter my feedback. last i checked the status quo was to state your feedback and not to discuss, and yet you want discussion
#game-feedback
turbid loom
eager aspen
Im only trying to say it might not be the game servers and might need some further looking into, rather then just assume this occurs everywhere to everyone, i'm not trying to argue just state some possibilty that would be worth checking
regal elm
Desyncs happens when your connection is... bad
turbid loom
connections are a two way street bud, if either end is bad then theres desyncs
regal elm
Welp, for me is cuz I get "Network Down," and that's when I get some desync
celest abyss
Mine mostly desyncs if I change networks or have my phone sleeping for awhile
Both of which I'd expect and always happened 
regal elm
Chief among which is cannot collect comms rewards
shell bramble
There seem to have been an increase in connection problems, usually occurring on again / off again with some regions. There are reports that using VPNs can help bypass some of the problems, and to some extent it is known. You may want to check with #tech-support as well (if you haven't already) to see if they have some more up-to-date suggestions for keeping stable connection.
That said, I think the feedback of "Please add back the option to have the game not lock my screen" is a valid piece of feedback for that team to look at writing up
(As an aside, I'm curious what OS you're on, because my Android device does not sleep / turn the screen off while the app is running without my manually having it do so)
turbid loom
IOS, options are that either the phone doesn't lock for anything, or locks for everything
naive cobalt
There're some reports of worse connection problems as of late afaik, but it's not widespread
And not sure if we know what's causing it 
turbid loom
like I said, i have no idea why and won't even take a guess. Its just been worse since the ui update
rare jay
And regarding the "Auto Screen Lock", we're still waiting on official input if that's intended or not(probably is though). If it is intended, we'll be sure to add the feedback to have it has an option and not forced.
naive cobalt
@eager aspen also you were asking https://trello.com/c/SaziDmLZ/112-vanguard-bonus-exp
eager aspen
Thx
shell bramble
Is there a way to check the metadata of a card (such as when it was created)?
rare jay
Yepp. In the "Activity" section, it'll show the creation date and any actions taken w/ it
regal elm
I haven't been able to check trello yet, but I want to add suggestion to sort the dock based on the fleet they're on. Also, if you can choose different color for the main/sub fleet tag in dock, that'll be great as well. Right now, first and second fleet for both main and subs are in the same color.
Like, say, Fleet 1 for both warship and submarine are colored blue in their card. If this, by any chance, can be changed, it'll be great.
naive cobalt
Sure, lemme add it
Sort by fleet was probably suggested, I'll need to check
If it wasn't I'll add it as well
regal elm
Okay, take your time. 
rare jay
It might organize stuff a bit 
naive cobalt
please do 
hollow palm
Wasn't that card already compiled
naive cobalt
filters were
rare jay
It was for filters
regal elm
Lol that's quite a clatter.
Also, thanks for adding my suggestion, Restart. 
ornate basin
a compile card would be great
rare jay
Ta-da https://trello.com/c/qYfpGxJy/680-additional-sort-options-ideas (complete w/ Fleet sort option)
proven crater
In the past minute, I've gotten three alerts that Enterprise finished Lucky E lessons, even though there's 7 or 6 minutes left…
shell bramble
Sounds like some flavor of desync with the server -- would need to restart client / logout to get it in line again
celest abyss
I've had it say comms or research were done, even show as done but error on attempt to complete, but there was like 2-4 minutes and restarting fixed it
So I'd be inclined to agree with "probably desync"
plain coral
is there a sort by affection? i forgot which botes i married
rare jay
Nah, there isn't (unless it was shadow added in). But we have it suggested to have one
plain coral
thank
formal oyster
Perhaps, since the name of the loli ships seems to divide the community, should we allow people to rename them at their convenience, even without oathing them ? ( Even if it's only the non-historical ships )
I get that it's kinda going against the purpose of the rings, but maybe another solution could be found, another bonus for oathed ships or something. 
crisp kraken
Or just name it the accurate name and then use a ring to change it to the meme name if you want a meme name
formal oyster
Define accurate name
crisp kraken
Idk the one here maybe
eager aspen
In all fairness, the mere existence of the loli versions isnt historically accurate 
velvet adder
These are the most offending translations. I'm going to restrain myself from adding "guesslations" as I can neither speak Chinese nor Japanese. I have added the plain Google translation so you can form your own opinion.
formal oyster
I don't see how those names are accurate on your screen.
shell bramble
I don't see that being implemented, as it would require ship-specific functionality -- it's far more likely that if the names are to be changed the devs will have that occur, and then any further changes would require oathing as that is a built in feature already.
Not saying the feedback is bad, just voicing a prediction of action
formal oyster
Yeah yeah, I get you 👍
somber rain
something that's been bothering me a bit with UI update. Unsure if intended or bug, however it was really useful having the ID number of ships/retrofits in Archive.
shell bramble
Not a bug I don't think, but it was written up for feedback: https://trello.com/c/tHdlMDVr/667-add-option-for-all-ship-ids-to-be-added-back-to-archives
somber rain
yh so it's intended after all. Hope they add it back
rare jay
Yeah, presumably (at least from me) they took it out since they hid away all the unused ship IDs. So they took that part out completely so there wouldn't be gaps in the numbers
brisk fiber
Can we get some Voicelines for the new Yorktown skin? I think she's the one one who doesn't have custom skin voicelines among all the new ones if I'm not mistaken
turbid loom
KGV doesn't
ornate basin
we dont take feedback for new content sorry 
lofty flume
just chiming in on the idea of the community being "split"
the TL team's fanfiction and excessive localization will piss of a certain part of the playerbase, while others remain indifferent or enjoy it
an accurate translation is going to receive almost no complaints. the memelords will enjoy it less, but won't actively be angry
it's not as if the game has no humor; people would still enjoy it when it's actually there from the original scriptwriters
to me, the choice to simply be accurate and have everyone be satisfied to some degree seems obvious
glad torrent
calling it a localization is an insult to localizations tbh
changing a jp movie line into an american movie line is a localization, bel-chan -> little bel is a localization
memes and line changes are fanfiction
sick locust
eager aspen
If there are any specific complaints I direct thee to Bel-bot as per pinned message from GTR
ornate basin
“this line is wrong, fix it” would be one 
tropic stratus
What is the method for submitting items like that other than using discord? Because I'm sure there's lots of people who will have no interest in accessing the AL discord itself.
naive cobalt
We prefer people to use discord
ornate basin
by finding belfast’s id and submitting it there
but I believe this is the only place as its community based
velvet adder
yes this is right now the only way
frigid shadow
There's also the customer service email: al.cs@yo-star.com
clear heron
That's for more technical stuff, and they're already working on a longer than normal backlog for accounts and payment issues, it'd be better to report via discord most of the time.
naive cobalt
Staff already asked people directly not to use email for that, so no
velvet adder
It'd be cool if while using a replacement chat portrait it showed a little ring on it if you've ringed your boat, since it supercedes it. Here is a kind of crappy example of what I mean.
naive cobalt
@velvet adder https://trello.com/c/WXjLMtfm/681-ring-icon-for-custom-chat-frames got it added 
velvet adder
Thanks, obviously it could be a better design or idea than where I put it lol.
naive cobalt
I'm sure they'll come up with something
lucid compass
Maybe we could have lower tiered items in the event shops for those players just starting out. I.E. purple boxes or blue plates or even specific purple equipment. It would also give us people who clear out the shop some more chaff to clear out while we are going towards the 80k point total for the T5 boxes and the like.
static needle
Was x2 speed on auto already suggested 👀
timid bough
@final cape A long time ago, I swore to the god of the seas that I would protect Big Sis Bismarck without fail if she were to end up in a dangerous situation, regardless of location! ...But, that's also something that I can not do by myself, right...Ahahaha... from the jp quotes faithful translation sure
shell bramble
Don't start it up again 
formal oyster
@static needle I saw a card for something like this yesterday when randomly browsing but I can't find it with the search right now. I swear this thing is broken 
shell bramble
Beat me to it!
There's also some tangentially related ones, such as this: https://trello.com/c/DmWol1w7/253-skip-firing-animation-for-bb-during-autobattle
formal oyster
Not sure about the "save phone battery" tho
velvet adder
If you're out and about, taking 30 seconds in a battle instead of 2 minutes then that's 75% less battery use. Especially if you're trying to do a lot of dailies
rustic ridge
similarly, I wish getting into an airstrike encounter would keep your current path, rather than stopping you in your tracks. and perhaps an option to auto evade battles?
lyric maple
ambushes in hard mode need to stop, there's no reason not to just retreat and retry so it just wastes 10 oil and 30 seconds or so
sturdy rapids
going back to the dorm tokens thing, since implementing things that could improve the rate of getting tokens probably wouldnt be anytime soon i was thinking we should at least get tokens as compensation due to how fast they're putting out limited sets. Correct me if I'm wrong in the assumption only EN is releasing limited dorm stuff back to back
shell bramble
I don't understand what you're being compensated for in that scenario, though.
sturdy rapids
because we're getting more limiteds than the rate at which we're getting dorm tokens, like faster than how other servers dish out their lims
rare jay
@lyric maple We have a suggestion to remove/reduce ambushes w Danger Level (which would be for HM w/ Clearing Mode on) https://trello.com/c/aiZLl2Vq/470-remove-or-reduce-ambush-rate-with-danger-level
@rustic ridge I actually really do like that idea. I got the suggestion created for you. Card for reference: https://trello.com/c/NUFgd6bN/683-keep-fleet-path-after-airstrikes-and-auto-evade-ambushes
rustic ridge
thanks!
sturdy rapids
but eh, its understandable if its too much, since its just dorm stuff and doesnt really affect gameplay
lucid compass
Would it be possible to make a queue for using skill books? Maybe when it asks what skill book you want to use, after you select the book, you can also say how many skill books you want to use consecutively.
final cape
I don’t understand why they are shitting out the dorm sets so fast. The EN team genuinely acted like this is what people wanted when they complained about the slowness/wanting to sync up in the past, and in the letter they went ‘Guys, we heard you! More dorm furniture!’ Even though that is quite genuinely the opposite of what most people wanted. Either way it’s not a huge issue to me. Clearly it can be used to generate more income via people buying 500 dorm coins and stuff, but yeah. I always try to prioritize the cooler furniture before the lamer 40 coin lamps I have 10,000 of lol
rare jay
@lucid compass We do have a suggestion for such a feature. Card for reference: https://trello.com/c/GKgFauHr/515-select-multiple-skill-books-at-once
@sturdy rapids Res did bring up the fact of dorm tokens being an issue to the devs (well to be specific it was regarding the Bismarck set) so they're aware of the complaints some players have. But as for compensation or what-not, I can't really say. That'd be up to the EN team and I'm not sure if they ever replied to Res about the concerns or what their reply was if they did.
sturdy rapids
oh yeah, i forgot about that. Bismark set was ridiculous lol
Just want the suggestion to be heard, even if they just say "no"
high dome
They did say no at some point
sturdy rapids
was worth a shot 😔
wind lagoon
The ability to downgrade gear back to a previous level and recieve 75% of resources that you spent on upgrading it to that level. If that makes sense.
solemn citrus
you can disassemble upgraded gear to get some back already
regal elm
I think he meant get some parts for upgrading back while downgrading the gear, like from +8 to +7
velvet adder
Can't imagine why you'd want to downgrade without scrapping
What would the benefit be, 'transferring' plates across gear?
regal elm
I mean, I get the idea. You'd want to keep the upgraded gear and then have the option to roll back while receiving... I don't know, 20-30% of the parts originally used to upgrade it. But that's how I interpret it, theirs might be different.
celest abyss
Wouldn't that be a bit OP when disassembly would give less...?
sturdy rapids
he means that if you downgrade you get 75% or something of the parts back
Ex:
Gear +9 -> Gear +8
You get 75% of what you spent from +8 -> +9
regal elm
Yea, that's how I interpret their idea as well
sturdy rapids
I can see why this would be useful but if this gets implemented then disassembling upgraded gears need to buffed first
celest abyss
Disassemble only gives what, 1 part per enhance level and 1 part a step below the rarity of the gear?
That's what I recall
dim river
If and when this games service end, have an offline mode available somehow. I’d hate to lose access to all the work I’ve put into this game.
velvet adder
Already personally suggested to Intern-Kun, he said he'd consider the option but it's not something they're working towards right now (as they'd rather keep the gravy train going)
Having it on Trello wouldn't hurt, though
drifting edge
How about an offline view mode for people that paid money for the game 
(skins)
velvet adder
That's called Danbooru
dim river
Thanks, it’s just thought I’d suggest sooner than when it is decided, at some point, to shutdowns service. Maybe it’s something they could plan on implementing when that time comes
velvet adder
Hope so too 
ornate basin
care to enlighten us?
tardy arch
ah shit here we go again
tawdry hill
completely changed how the scenes goes just to force a meme, great job
ornate basin
how exactly does the scene go?
im not aware myself, but knowing ark royal, I wouldn’t be surprised
tawdry hill
the original was something along the lines of "you never change ark royal", not sure about the followup but i higly doubt that'd be the response to that
instead they opted to insert the "haha enterprise is the FBI" meme that couldn't have gotten staller faster
sturdy rapids
Can you at least provide both the text in game and the original CN/JP text(in english of course) whenever this is brought up so its easier to understand how different they are
ornate basin
well we also dont allow direct vs localization arguments
tardy arch
can you have someone make that an official message and pin it.
ornate basin
tardy arch
last wednesday 
surprised no one brought that up yesterday.
sturdy rapids
like they'll stop after seeing that, they didnt stop once the official statement was given
ornate basin
we bring it up every time, and it continues so we leave be
tardy arch
well no cause there was no consequences given if it were to continue. and none of the mods bothered to put a stop to it.
cosmic hinge
Another day, another collection of terrible memes being forced into the script.
tawdry hill
if you wont take feedback here i'll just take it to the emails then
ornate basin
when mods try to, people argue that its suppression
so as I said, we leave be
slate monolith
Days not complaining about localisation - 01
ornate basin
@tawdry hill
I’d appreciate if you could follow the dev’s request thank you
anyways, this isn’t feedback anymore
sturdy rapids
anyway, nothing wrong with them leaving "ingame EN text with original CN/JP text" then just leaving it there. We should just leave it at that.
sour monolith
Somebody tries to give TL feedback, moderators deny and yell "no direct vs localization allowed" and then ask why people keep on sending mails. Honestly tired of this bullsh*t.
tardy arch
and i'm getting tired of seeing people complain about the "poor localization". honestly if they think it's so bad they should just play the jp/cn version with google translate open.
sour monolith
Trying to send feedback here is useless when you have people hounding back at every critical feedback like it's some forbidden sht. Makes me realize why most people opt to sending private mails.
tardy arch
feedback was sent here and it was accepted so that's a straight up lie.
hell you even had one of the server owners give a statement about the issue and people still complained long afterward. there's no pleasing those people.
regal elm
Are we just gonna keep complaining at every single translation now? This is getting ridiculous by each day.
sour monolith
People are riled up and lost trust to the TL team so they'd check every mistakes now and then
eager aspen
Can both sides just let this die already
opal lynx
It's not the first time it's happened either, but I'd say the breaking point was specifically changing the marriage contract to read "Commander" instead of "Groom" - instead of letting people choose their own identity (or even leaving it as is), it's just a catch-all term that's simultaneously lazy and riled people up.
That's where I noticed a lot more scrutiny of the TL's work coming in after.
tardy arch
lol you do realize that "groom" is more associated with a dude then "commander" is right? "commander" is just the person in charge. where as "groom" is more of the guys role.
velvet adder
"aneki" to "brother" then turned "lord" for me, from the little that i know thats not supposed to be the translation. I just find it jarring that my u556 says something but im reading something else.
opal lynx
The point I'm trying to make is that instead of giving people the option to choose what to label themselves as, going for a gender-neutral term on a marriage contract is seriously lazy.
tardy arch
"aniki" does mean "brother" btw
velvet adder
Aneki not aniki
eager aspen
Thats has been suggested before iirc, you can add ur vote on the card if you want
tardy arch
my b thought you misspelled it
opal lynx
Not to mention, you disenfranchise male players to buoy those who fall outside the demographic. Being female myself, I suggested the option before to have myself as "bride" - but I wouldn't want that at the cost of the vastly male playerbase either.
tardy arch
i can't remember a single time the ship girls refer to the commander as a "he" afaik it's always "you" or "they"
opal lynx
Mm, I can remember quite a few.
eager aspen
https://trello.com/c/C2cEPdi4/140-gender-for-commander If you happen to care
opal lynx
Unicorn and Nevada come to mind - the former calls you big brother, and Nevada calls you young man.
tardy arch
oh ya, unicorn... oops
ok then i'd say it'd be a bit weird for them to refer to you as a guy then to suddenly see a gender neutral term or even a female one on the marriage certificate.
opal lynx
The original JP and CN version very much defaults to the commander being male. I don't wish to disenfranchise male players to get a decidedly milquetoast inclusive rewrite to make someone like me feel more welcome, when all it does is make it less personal and stilted.
eager aspen
Lets be fair, thats the west being the west nowadays
tardy arch
ya i'm starting to hate the west more and more each day. and i live here
anyways if they really did want to add a gender option or have you be gender neutral they'd have to redo va lines to make sure it fits. (not to mention all the bugs that'd come with it) otherwise it'd just be really awkward.
opal lynx
I mean, not to be rude, but VA lines don't need to be redone. Virtually 99.5% or so of ship lines just say "Shikikan" to refer to the player. My proposal is to simply have a text box that you can type in to identify yourself as whomever you'd like on the sheet. It'd be the easiest solution.
velvet adder
They are trying to change the new texts to fit their inclusiveness agenda already. Like before retrofit, Nevada calls you shounen, after retrofit it's young'un even tho the voice is the same
tardy arch
if they do that then why not just use your in-game name?
eager aspen
The card I just posted has the same train of thought 
opal lynx
Because it'd be in bad faith to rename yourself in lieu of every instance of Commander, when you clearly hear Shikikan. It'd add more problems.
tardy arch
i honestly don't care about the gender neutral crap. as long as they don't start preaching shit to me about "gender equality" and crap like that.
eager aspen
Let's refrain ourselves from discussing Gender politics here tho 
opal lynx
There's definitely some motivation to make it more "inclusive" (see, appealing to all audiences), but this is neither the time nor place to discuss it.
tardy arch
well then why be able to type what you'd want to be called then? it'd be much easier to just have it be commander or your in-game name.
velvet adder
Agree, but we are not the one who forced that into the game in the first place
opal lynx
Because your in-game name is already printed on the card itself.
prime moth
Oh man, FBI memes
So funny 
tardy arch
we get it "the TL is bad redo it" please move along now.
opal lynx
Unless you want to be Mario Mario and Luigi Mario.
marble musk
id like to add my name to the list of people with zero trust in the current EN TL team
velvet adder
I honestly don't understand. Why make up some neutral meme when the original version, voice include are obivously pointing at skk being male. It's as if the TL team is trying to change the game to fit their own vision, political opinion in it
tardy arch
ah ok. didn't notice it was already on the card.
i really think just leaving it as "commander" is the best option. "commander" just denotes the person in charge. where as "groom" is more masculine.
opal lynx
Except it was "groom" before, imagine how awkward that is.
"I now pronounce you commander and wife." Why not just change the bride to ship at this point?
eager aspen
Remember when we said we wouldn't discuss gender
tardy arch
ik. i'm saying them changing it to "commander" is a better term if they want to leave it as gender neutral.
LOL that'd actually be hilarious and i wanna see it. 
also "groom and wife" doesn't sound any better.
opal lynx
Obviously, I was using the undercurrent there to place in husband. Also, I'm tired.
eager aspen
I think the easiest solution might just be more of a "insert playername" in all those instances
opal lynx
... But I already mentioned before that the player's name is already on the card.
eager aspen
Ye but for other cases then the oath certificate
tardy arch
but then what would they do with the va?
eager aspen
But I guess in some dialogue that might not work so well
just leave the VA as is
Redoing all lines to do all gender options is a bit much work
tardy arch
it'd be weird as hell to hear "commander" and see "boatlester" or something like that.
opal lynx
There are several lines in the game where the translation doesn't come close to what's printed on the screen.
Ack, I messed that up. Specifically, the voiced line doesn't match the translation.
eager aspen
Lifehack: turn of sound
velvet adder
Easiest option: end all the neutral craps and keep the commander as male as it is intended in the original version. I'm tired of people writing fanfic in my game
opal lynx
There's a certain level of bemusement from having to choose not to partake content because it conflicts with other content within the game.
regal elm
Do we really have to keep snowballing this whole commander's gender debate?
eager aspen
I was moreso making a joke as I dont remember the last time I played with sound on
opal lynx
Azuuurrrr Reeeein!
tardy arch
"my game" cool so you can fix the bugs and the TL issues then? would like it all fixed by tomorrow pls.
i couldn't resist
silent junco
mfw strawmaning
cursive plank
its Yostar's game, if they don't change the translation and htink it fits their vision in the end, suck it up
velvet adder
If this is a game that earns its bucks by people paying for the stuff they want to pay then yes, the majority (not sure if mine is really the majority, but I doubt the majority player in this game arent straight male) of customer's opinions should be enough make the people in charge fix the game
opal lynx
It could also be a case of simple negligence from the higher ups, we don't know for sure.
cursive plank
again, 'majority', I am straight male and I don't care
tardy arch
ok but it's still not "my game" you didn't make it, yostar did, and they're the ones that get the final say on changes whether you like em or not.
regal elm
And we just keep speculating here, if not criticizing
cursive plank
it says commander, which I am one, I don't care if it doesn't say groom, its not like I am not a commander
tardy arch
i was half joking btw. but that level of entitlement just isn't cool.
velvet adder
Yes it is, though I referred to it as my game because I play, pay for the content instead of the game I don't, And merely providing feedback to keep it as the game I play
tardy arch
ok but you gotta remember you're not the only one who plays it. and no you don't pay for the content as the content is free. not once has this game hit us with a "pay to play this event" paywall.
minor robin
Can we end this discussion already
tardy arch
ya sure. i've said my peace.
opal lynx
Additional feedback: More seseren emotes in the in-game chat when?
cursive plank
pretty sure more are coming lol (as if the devs won't capitalize on em)
minor robin
I think JP/CN does actually have more
So it's a matter of time really
velvet adder
I hate it when this happens
Me: is trying to sortie
AL: No your docks are full
Me: But ships aren't dropped from here
AL: Your docks are still full clear space or expand them
Me: points to drop list, showing that ships don't drop from that map
AL: Your docks are full
minor robin
That's been feedbacked before, assuming you're referring to dailies
velvet adder
not just dailies
I don't remember speaking for anyone other than myself, I'm not the ones making a fuss over the a word choice. Paying or not, I still have the right to voice my opinion. @tardy arch And sorry mods I wont argue anymore after this
sturdy rapids
what map is that
cursive plank
EX mode
velvet adder
cargo fleets and EX mode too cuz ships don't drop from those either
cursive plank
oh yeah Cargo fleets
velvet adder
also are ship suggestions gonna be allowed after EN is caught up?
regal elm
Can we have the promise line added to playable quotes for L2D skins?
eager aspen
Currently suggestions for new content are not on the table afaik
silent junco
raw coral
It still says "Notifications" here, even though it got renamed to "Options" (which I think is less fitting either way). The actual option to make custom names appear isn't in the "Notification"-tab of "Options", but below it in "Other Settings", which are nearly hidden completely since no one knows you can scroll there, plus it's missing a scroll bar to indicate that
rare jay
It's been suggested to add a scrollbar there for better visual feedback for players
regal elm
That would fall under bug, wouldn't it?
rare jay
But yeah, for the notification part, that would just be a TL error that you can report
!bugreport
agile otterBOT
Hello commander, if you'd like to report a bug please send me a direct message with !feedback and I would be happy to assist you. However, be sure to check #known-bugs to make sure you're not reporting something that is already known. You can also check the Trello boards here:
Bugs: https://trello.com/b/Hd2cMeYU/azur-lane-official-azur-lane-en-bugs
Translation Issues: https://trello.com/b/7gz5rAAi/azur-lane-official-azur-lane-en-translation-issues
sturdy rapids
has it been suggested that whenever you get a map on safe difficulty ambushes just dont exist anymore
like how is it safe if you're being ambushed left and right
eager aspen
I think there is something like that yes
rare jay
sturdy rapids
oh i voted for it already.... why do I not remember this
eager aspen
I think you asked for the same thing quite recently
sturdy rapids
help im getting old
velvet adder
Hello.
This is literally censorship.
Can we do something about it or are we going to continue allowing fanfiction writers dumb down our game?
shell bramble
The same company that created the lines & sentiment has hired people to alter & adapt them for a different audience. You can provide feedback on instances where the translate doesn't meet your standards, but calling it censorship seems a little extreme.
velvet adder
Changing lines to make them less raunchy for the sake of appealing to the wider mass is literally censorship. I don't believe I need to explain it further.
what does the original one say, i dont remember seeing my eldridge change lines
tardy arch
this dude just lied through his teeth cause no they didn't change anything.
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Eldridge/Quotes#Chinese_Server
velvet adder
Except that original version translates to "...(Eldridge's expression doesn't change, but her ahoge forms the shape of ////)"
//// ?
tardy arch
ya and both cn and jp say that.
velvet adder
//// obviously means blushing
well that's another mistranslation
But fanfiction writers completely changed the meaning of the line to force the notion as if Eldridge dislikes you touching her.
lost palm
velvet adder
There's absolutely not a single real reason to commit to such atrocious change except for "we felt like it"
tardy arch
ya just checked in game my b.
still that's not censorship.
velvet adder
he, who i assume is one of the translators, said it kind of was
"changing to be less extreme" is not censorship?
tardy arch
"and while i personally didn't proofread or translate ark royal..."
velvet adder
This changes nothing. I'm not saying that this person was the sole reason that change happened. I'm saying that it happened regardless. The fact that they lack a proofreader only makes them look worse
tardy arch
he just admitted he's not the one who translated ark's lines. so he doesn't know if it was actually toned down or not.
formal oyster
I don't know if it really is "censorship" in this case but it still goes complete opposite of the original reaction of the character ( embarrassed vs angry ) so I understand the discontent here.
velvet adder
he personally changed the translation on eldridge tho, clearly stated in the tweet
regal elm
Ahoge making a shape of blushing? Not convinced.
rare jay
Where did Intu clearly state that he translated it? 
In any case, if you believe it's a mistranslation, just report it as such
and the TL team will look into it
eager aspen
Let it die for one second
velvet adder
Eldridge thing isn't censorship, rather simple stupidity. Ark Royal thing on the other hand definitely IS censorship.
regal elm
And yea, why are we still snowballing this? Just let it end.
naive cobalt
I'm tired of people feeling the need to come back every few hours just to come up with reasons to complain and this complaint being the same shit over and over
velvet adder
lockdown the feedback then
naive cobalt
You already gave your feedback, you don't need to coment on each and every line
Cease
velvet adder
I'm providing feedback. I have every right to do so. The fact that the similar issues pop up all the time simply proves how many things are wrong with the state of localization
regal elm
And I'm sorry for being political, but this is just like Brexit; we're going nowhere with this topic being debated over and over again.
naive cobalt
Just because you comment on some tweet from 2018, doesn't change your point about "translation team takes too much liberties changing and adapting lines" and this point was heard and addressed by staff
That is feedback you already gave
You don't need to repeat it about every line that was changed
So this discussion is pointless and will result in mutes
velvet adder
Every time someone provides a feedback, the mods here feel the need to argue it's not a valid feedback, so we state the reason why it's valid. If you don't want to have a mess in this channel then stop jumping in to defend the TL team every time we provide evidence of their fuck up
eager aspen
Stop
north igloo
just keep sending those CS emails guys. those can't be suppressed by discord mods
regal elm
Giving feedback is one thing. Snowballing the same topic over and over again is another.
formal oyster
But yeah, providing feedback =/= Going on a crusade against the TL team for each and every localization that is being interpreted as fanfiction mistranslation.
eager aspen
Read the pin @north igloo
rare jay
GT has politely asked people to not send emails due to a backlog of more pertinent issues such as accounts and purchase issues
formal oyster
@velvet adder It's not that it's not valid, it's just that the feedback has already been registered.
naive cobalt
Feedback not being suppressed
Give your feedback and go away without feeling the need to argue about it
lost palm
@naive cobalt did you just say this on behalf of yo star? If you dont like this our feed back then go away. Dont response to this. You treating to mute costumer who care about your game is just wrong. In fact you should mute anyone who dont give feed back but always respond and start pointless discussion
velvet adder
if very single line is fucked up we have every right to do so
young bloom
you can see that some people responded aka arguing when people put complaint about feedback
why don't you start from them?
velvet adder
While general notion of the populace was that "translation team takes too much liberties changing and adapting lines", personal feedback from people was definitely a lot more detailed. What I'm talking about right now, while it can be places under the same umbrella as things from recent discussion, is not an exact thing that people had issue with. Feedback I'm providing right not is unique in that regard. I'll ask for you to not generalize things for no reason.
right now*
eager aspen
The point is, bringing up every line is no different from mentioning it once
There is no need to keep repeating it
naive cobalt
@young bloom Because they not the one starting the discussion
lost palm
@eager aspen are you staff?
eager aspen
Are you?
young bloom
but the point is not to start any discussion which they started by responding other feedback no?
regal elm
And your feedback is "Direct v Localization" thing, which is what we keep arguing about.
lost palm
I am not. You can clearly see it
velvet adder
Yes, people who have no issue with current localization don't bring feedback regarding it. This is most likely the most obvious thing in the world. Why are you bringing this up?
formal oyster
I believe there is a .doc going on for this anyway, just put everything in here and send it here when it's done. That way it will be more centralized, more organized and it will not need repetitive pointless discussions. Would be a lot more useful feedback for the staff as well as they will have an organized sheet of what can be considered wrong in the translation/localization.
naive cobalt
That, this would be much more helpful
somber rain
there is a Doc? idk about this
formal oyster
Well I don't know for certain but I think I saw something like this. Anyway if there is none, just do one
velvet adder
good, a collage of "tl errors" is the way to go
young bloom
he means to put the complaints into one single .doc file rather than putting a wall of text in here
somber rain
ah i see, thought it was an "official doc" or something
naive cobalt
You can compile all your complaints in one doc and I will make sure staff will get it
eager aspen
That would be alot simpler then what keeps repeating here
velvet adder
Tbh, I don't think feedback about localization/translation is needed. Devs have decided to go localization route. It is not possible to go back anymore. Imo localization should not exist but thats what devs have decided to do
regal elm
Yeah, and we don't need to keep snowballing the whole issue again here
shell bramble
Here is a query for the docs I Remember seeing yesterday, though there are others:
in: game-feedback has: file from: Major Spam#3385
velvet adder
I have no reason to condense all the things I feel like need to be said in a single document and hope it wont be completely ignored. Ignoring a single doc file is much easier than ignoring constant stream of feedback. I recommend other people have the same mindset as I do. If moderation team believes I'm spamming, which is objectively incorrect, they're free to mute me all they want. This is their server after all. However, this doesnt change the fact that as a customer who uses a product, I have every right to point out things within said product with which I disagree
somber rain
actually... that is not a bad idea. @naive cobalt why not have a link to a Doc or something where ppl can add 1 comment related to this topic, cause this is a very often Topic (sadly)
eager aspen
You literally got confirmation that ur being heard
tardy arch
bruh moment
velvet adder
did yostar straight up said that they will take liberties with the EN translation?
regal elm
And from a Staff too
velvet adder
Which changes absolutely nothing from what I just said.
formal oyster
Thing is the constant stream of "feedback" is annoying for everyone and won't do any favor for anyone. It spams the feedback channel for the same reasons everytime and mods and staff would be tired of this and not take that feedback with the same kind of importance, which can be understandable. They are humans, not bots ( I think )
regal elm
Okay, I'm done pleasing you.
naive cobalt
"constant stream of feedback" is a flood, in which valid feedback is easy to be lost
single doc is compilation which is easy to read and get hold of
you coming at it from perspective of "staff want to ignore feedback", otherwise they have no reason to ignore it
sour monolith
Wow that eldridge thing is definitely censorship. I thought Yostar policy was no censorship. They literally even said it on stream.
velvet adder
I believe that this is a perspective of reasonably thinking customer, yes.
what, what even is yostar statement on translations at this point lol
tardy arch
more like a madman on a crusade
naive cobalt
sturdy rapids
I like how feedback regarding TL has been:
"Hey this translation is wrong/changes the meaning of the original CN/JP text"
People argue/defend the TL
People counter argue against those defending the TL
Shit happens
It dies out
Repeat every few hours
somber rain
precisely why i think it's better to just create a google doc or something, where ppl can just insert text about their concerns with Translation
"Hi i have a complaint about TL"
Answer: there's a link in description on #game-feedback
eager aspen
Nobody is trying to defend the TL, we are just trying to keep this from flooding
velvet adder
Complaints are about localization vs translations. Devs have decided to localize. Nothing can be done about that sadly
regal elm
We were told to stop flooding this channel, nothing more, nothing less. What's so hard to understand about that?
formal oyster
And imagine being the staff. What would you prefer between treating an organized feedback sheet and some angry mob feedback that get lost anyway in an endless stream of pointless discussion ?
velvet adder
Yostar's statement on translation is "in short" that EN can do whatever it wants. As a customer I disagree with it and I'm going to provide feedback about it as I hope for changes.
tardy arch
forget it. just let them scream into the void by themselves.
this isn't feedback anymore. it's complaining.
velvet adder
Moderation is free to suppress me.
cursive plank
The thing is, continue to flood the emails and this channel, it will only end up as nuisance and discarded, how about state your complain and the stop?
velvet adder
i didn't know yostar let the tl team run loose, if thats the case this is a losing battle
naive cobalt
all the feedback is being considerate, and we're analyzing if we need to make some adjustments based on it
"Yostar's statement on translation is "in short" that EN can do whatever it wants"
if you just here to straight up lie - I probably will suppress you, yes
sturdy rapids
or troll(not saying thats waht you're doing, but in case anyone out there is lurking and planning on it)
tardy arch
at this point i wouldn't be surprised if he's trolling
regal elm
Or acting like a caring customer
naive cobalt
I would appreciate if you cease needless comments as well @sturdy rapids @tardy arch @regal elm
velvet adder
There were many from AL staff that they dont want EN to be "JP/CN with subtititles". I added "in short" because that's obviously not the whole thing.
cursive plank
I didn't complain about the poor selection of core data shop on EN every 2 hours here despite I am veey annoyed by it and only complained every ten days or so
velvet adder
many statements* I cant type today ugh.
tardy arch
tbh it's all just needless comments and complaining now. the feedback ended a while ago.
sturdy rapids
oh yeah, has that been mentioned. About when we get updated stuff on the core data shop. It been the same for months while everything else is going at a decently fast pace is weird
naive cobalt
that they dont want EN to be "JP/CN with subtititles" Yes, that's what they want to, but "feedback still being collected and adjustments will be made"
sturdy rapids
It was supposed to be updated last month right?
regal elm
Would be great if variations for the core data shop can be implemented asap
naive cobalt
Don't think any adjustments to core shop were announced
cursive plank
Not just the shells, Submarine Oxygen stuffs and McCluskey is what I am interested in too
naive cobalt
And I think I heard it's tied to W12
sour monolith
Honestly they even changed a line to incorporate an FBI joke in the latest chapter today lmao. The stream of disapppointed people will keep on coming. Especially since some have literally have 0 trust with the TL team now.
sturdy rapids
ok ok, thats all i wanted to know. Thanks
somber rain
i agree core shop been same since released, would be great if they changed it. From what i've read it will probably be when we get W12 most likely
velvet adder
officer enterprise was not int he original lines?
cursive plank
The thing is I understand locking the shells away, McCluskey and Submarine stuffs? Not understand
regal elm
And when we get W12, we get lvl 120 as well. Win-win
velvet adder
Yes, "feedback still being collected and adjustments will be made" was the statement. As a customer, should I just shut up completely and wait with excitement until they decide that the correct time to change things has come? No, I should keep finger on the pulse and continue providing feedback I recognize as necessary. As AL staff asked to not send feedback to their email, I wont do so. It wont stop me however from providing said feedback elsewhere
eager aspen
Is there any suggestions for some kind of indication towards XP storing progress?
Like showing how many lvls you would gain if you were to Cog break ur ship.
tardy arch
you all love to complain yet not a single one of you will bother to actually report it to the bot.
regal elm
I don't think there is yet @eager aspen
eager aspen
rare jay
@eager aspen We don't iirc. I can get it added here in a sec
sturdy rapids
that'd be nice, like a +<x> with x being the number of levels you go up
velvet adder
@tardy arch My bug report regarding related issue currently has 46 upvotes in #known-bugs channel, please check things before making statements like that
regal elm
Oh shut up, being all high and mighty about your report...
velvet adder
Im simply stating that such a thing exists, while our friend here assumed that it doesn't for some reason
rare jay
@eager aspen Got it created for you. https://trello.com/c/y5lArjJL/684-level-indicator-of-cognitive-breaking-ships
@velvet adder If that's the case, then report the Eldridge line as well and let it be done. TL team will look into it
cursive plank
@@velvet adder the devs saw it in the report then, so you complaining here is just nuisance to those who want to give real feedbacks and mods and nothing else
naive cobalt
Like, I don't mind you giving feedback even, I mind arguments from both sides
tardy arch
oh my. you mean people have seen it then? now would you look at that. it's almost as if reporting it and having people vote on it will help it get seen by the staff. instead of sitting here bitching every other hour.
velvet adder
So we're not allowed to both send bug reports and provide feedback here? Please don't imply something as ridiculous as that
cursive plank
As far as I am concernes bug reports belongs in #bug-reports
naive cobalt
Just report it via the bot
As i said - you can give feedback here, but stop arguing and attacking each other.
rare jay
I've asked multiple times to just report it 
azure sable
Frankly I'm amazed the devs are keeping this channel alive at all lol. They thought that having people talk to people would help clear up the type of feedback people are being given, making sure that the messages they get are the ones they wanted to receieve. But all its doing is generating endless internet arguments.
velvet adder
There would never be any complaints about TL if devs chose to translate, instead of localizing. Just saying
tell that to the blue and red usernames tthat feel the need to dismiss and argue against feedback everytime it is given
naive cobalt
They got muted
velvet adder
fair game, i also got muted for the same reason a while back
having feedback is not a problem its just that other people tend to backtalk with each other causing the commotion
cursive plank
Thing is, they kept saying it will be better off as direct translation instead of localization and I loved some of the localization they did although not all
Or rather they said no one will dislike it, in which yeah I can settle for a infererior veesion doesn't mean I want an inferior version
velvet adder
For what it's worth, those brigading for the TL changes to the exact same thing Manuela Leon claims - dismiss and argue the other side's complaints
its not a problem to say "please change bigbrother to x y z" rather the followup from other people saying otherwise like "nah shes girl duh" and they start fighting which cramps this channel
while I do not care either way, that should be what people keep in mind before bashing each other coz in the end this gets flooded and staff gets a hard time backreading
Localization is always bad, it doesn't matter if it is good. It changes the original work. I'd rather have broken english than localization
cursive plank
See? This is how they treat people who liked the localization, straight up disagree with them and continue with the narrative that no one likes localization
sour monolith
Localization doesnt make sense. This game is released in many countries.
serene marshBOT
game-feedback got locked down.
naive cobalt
Your feedback was heard
naive cobalt
/lockdown
serene marshBOT
game-feedback lockdown got lifted.
mint python
please stop putting bad meme jokes on the lines , just translate
quiet roost
Or we can go with 2 scripts, 1 for the people that wants to know what's being said and another for whatever fanfiction the "localizers" decide to put in the game
livid fable
My experience with eldridges special touch line being changed so drastically has been really disappointing, can only imagine what other aspects of my favourite botes have been changed for no reason at all
formal oyster
Lockdown just went up and ... oh whatever
viral current
Wichita skin
somber rain
i suggest a separate feedback channel "EN translation" or something at this point honestly
rare jay
@viral current Unfortunately we can't take feedback for skins. Sorry. The pins will explain what we can't take feedback on specifically.
@somber rain You can suggest it in #discord-feedback
formal oyster
Wouldn't solve the problem, just relocalize it, sadly. But yeah at least, it wouldn't be a bother for the other feedbacks...
viral current
Thanks brother
somber rain
right it's Discord related my bad. Ill do that in a bit
celest abyss
There'll be constant crying even about TL changes that were suggested
(EG groom > commander, iirc people in here suggested that one)
honest rune
I don't see that much problem with the translations, the lolis name suck still, I don't understand what is the problem...
quiet roost
What's the point of having translators if they just rewrite whatever they want? Why not just write a whole new script?
livid fable
No problem other than forcing shitty FBI memes, inserting their own fanfiction and then changing the entire meaning of certain lines lol
sturdy rapids
@honest rune basically situation is:
in-game translation changes the original meaning of the texts
people point it out
shit happens
celest abyss
yep, here we go again
hardy nymph
I wanted to suggest actual feedback though...
shell bramble
Please do
celest abyss
rare jay
I'm still here watching and collecting feedback
hardy nymph
I wanted to suggest being able to be able to craft tier 3 skill books. unlike other SR tier things like blueprints or weapon crates, the only advantage you get from tier 3 books is time. In fact, crafting from tier 1 to 2 loses you XP, but saves time.
honest rune
A way to know the drop chance of ships, commission and urgent commission (how do you get them) would be cool
rare jay
@hardy nymph Sure thing. I could've sworn we've had that before but I couldn't seem to find it. Got it here for you: https://trello.com/c/OZuYkhIM/685-upgrade-textbooks-to-t3
@honest rune I got your idea added onto our previous card for ship drop rates https://trello.com/c/2SGdQXXs/74-add-drop-rates-in-game
formal oyster
I think he meant the chance of urgent commission popping
honest rune
I mean even the commission "May find" how much is that?, the drop chance in maps for ships and urgent commission idk
formal oyster
As to how do you get them, you just have to do battles and eventually you'll get some
rare jay
@honest rune So show the rate for the "May find" for ships from urgent commissions?
honest rune
And various item too
sturdy rapids
crafting t2 -> t3 plates has been suggested before too right. Also crafting t3 -> t2 and t2 -> t1 for plates, or at least crafting plates to other types of plates of the same rarity
rare jay
Hm..... well I'll get the card updated to encompass all "May find" items from commissions
formal oyster
Was there already a card about hiding ships already max enhanced in the enhance screen ? I can't seem to find it
shell bramble
I know there is, but I think it's part of a broader "Sort by" or "Filter by" card with like a dozen different options
rare jay
@sturdy rapids Yepp it has been. I also got your idea for downgrading them on it as well
https://trello.com/c/JmNtQxeL/401-upgrade-plate-part-conversion
@formal oyster Yepp, it has been. It's on our compilation filter card https://trello.com/c/MJEr9onC/420-additional-filters (Number 6 specifically)
cursive plank
Yeah especially level 100 and max enhance ships should be literally excluded from all enhance screen automatically, although I see a scenario that one need to enhance a starter that already is at max due to Beginner Missions
honest rune
Rework the secretary quests? That is a lot of work for nothing in return beside the ship at lvl 100 and affinity 100
formal oyster
They can do it directly in the dock screen then. The "hiding max enchanced ships" thing is mainly for the pre-battle enchance screen, when your dock is full.
Or just add a "show/hide" button actually
cursive plank
I think the secretary quest is mostly for short stories and the rewards are merely bonus, but i would love if the rewsrd is increased
formal oyster
give rings as rewards
honest rune
I mean they are cool so you other ships but leveling a sub to 100 isn't easy or fun too
rare jay
You do get BPs, gold, etc from the quest though along with their side stories for free. And really all you have to do for them is to use the ships a good bit 
formal oyster
It's not hard at all with commissions/dorm/lecture hall. Maybe a bit longer than a standard ship ( if you ever sortie with it ) but it's not the end of the world
cursive plank
Oh its not level but affection, 100 affection on submarines is quite a hassle I have to concede
formal oyster
Well kinda the same deal. Put her as secretary until 90 and finish the 10 remaining % in sortie. As I said, might take a bit longer but ...
cursive plank
That will actually be pretty long time lol
shell bramble
I think I agree more with "Sub affection is difficult to raise"
viral current
2 times speed for battles would be not bad esp for farming dailies and grind
shell bramble
Speeding up auto battles is an existing card
rare jay
It's been suggested. Card for reference: https://trello.com/c/jv5hht0r/58-add-2x-4x-auto-speed
honest rune
160 battles for 10 affinity if the sub never get a MVP, the BP you get from a not SR (3 T2 of the class the ship is) isn't that much, and you gotta to level her to 100 and mlb
rare jay
Hm...I think I could chalk up a card for maybe a better way to raise submarine affinity b/c secretary quest are rather easy to do themselves. But as brought up, submarines do have a bit harder of a time due to affinity
cursive plank
Agreed
azure sable
I think I echo people saying that the secretary quests are pretty lackluster for all the resources you need to sink into them. Especially the affinity is a real slow drag.
rare jay
Alright, got the card created. It's just got some simple ideas for fixes for now though. If there are any other suggestions for it, let me know https://trello.com/c/agSyqYhy/686-easy-way-to-raise-submarine-affinity
honest rune
Making "Fleet power" more understable? I still don't understand how to raise it, I know it exist in the rankings...
cursive plank
Just the power of all your ships total iirc
sturdy rapids
the calculations itself isnt explained, all that you need to know is ship levels, equipment rarity and level, together with affection all affect fleet power
honest rune
Ok thanks
late pecan
I hope the devs continue to localize as they do; I know that a majority of players dont care for pinpoint accurate translations, especially if its trivial things or if they contain cultural references that only China or Japan would understand. It's not a good idea to base the ideal translation on a true 1:1 translation, which can often be riddled with foot notes and pretexts. It's also a paradox to disown the memes and reference in EN when many of the botes are riddled with memes and references from their design alone (Hermes, Jamaica, and the newest addon z36, all being references to several animes). That is my feedback, that is all.
velvet adder
@late pecan I hope you don't defend this.
fickle nest
^ The real problem is when they completely changed character Interactions or their personality
late pecan
This isnt a discussion channel, if you want to talk let's go to #off-topic
minor robin
We don't need people who are here simply to counter others on their views 
That's exactly what starts an argument and never ends well
velvet adder
@minor robin I thought the picture is self-explanatory as it clearly changes the character's personality. If honest and clean critique gets ignored then I'll end to support this version of the game and let the pieces lay where they fall. I have invested enough time to improve the game and it seems to that it's not worth it.
minor robin
The picture is fine
I don't need you deliberately pinging someone who shares the opposite opinion of you just cos you disagree with them
That's how arguments are started
dim river
I really don’t care if the translations are off. As long as it makes sense in English, I won’t know. I think the dialogue is pretty good and funny at times. Just sharing my thoughts for feedback sakes.
opal lynx
At the end of the day, this is essentially the age-old retread of localization against faithful translations. When I used to hawk bootleg VHS anime tapes back in the late '90s during conventions, there was the same discussion back then too. The fundamental problem is that people who don't know the language, functionally will not care, while those that do will raise concerns because they're not getting the original "true" experience. It's not exactly as if it's something new.
proven crater
Wait… people actually care about localization differences?
Localization changes characters and personalities all the time. My Hero Academia, Pokémon, Yugioh…
Everything is localized, very rarely is anything ever directly translated…
Anyway, I'm just here to ask if we can slowdown on the events yet… Or maybe rerun the collabs, since I complety missed the first one(s), and missed a ship from the recent AI collab.
rare jay
Unfortunately we can't take feedback for event pacing, sorry
formal oyster
May I suggest some sort of skill book trade ? We all know that blue skill books tend to stack really easily when the other ones ( particularly the red ones ) are depleting real fast since most of the ships use this type of skill as opposed to the blue ones. So a trade or rather a convert system where you would give 3 or 5 ( or whatever ) books of one kind to get one of another kind would be appreciated. Could work for all tier of books ( or not, depending on how that, mixed with the book upgrade system, would affect the balance )
minor robin
Hmm for the trade system I believe we have something like that, toaster can you verify?
Mobile is a pain
rare jay
Sure thing. Getting Trello pulled up now
formal oyster
I searched real fast and didn't find anything but yeah, me and the Trello search are not in good terms anyway
minor robin
Also let's not have this localisation vs direct translation discussion please...
velvet adder
The problem is not "the translation team burgerfying the script" it's "the translation team doing anything they want"
I do not and will not support anything that changes the original source material to such a degree.
This is a mobilephone game, mostly played by otakus. NOT a TV series aimed at children.
minor robin
Pretty sure we specifically asked not to have such a discussion on that here
proven crater
Well… Event pacing is my biggest issue… oh well…
drifting agate
I don't think you can call this localization though, inserting random references and memes were there previously were none isn't localization. The scene with Belfap and Scharnhorst in Winter's Crown is normal in both CN and JP but in EN they added a Full Metal Jacket reference out of nowhere.
And the recent change of Eagle Union girls to "lovebirds" isn't localization either, that's just the translators inserting their fetish into the script
For game feedback I'd want the pace of retrofits to go a bit faster since I want San Diego to be useful 
proven crater
Pokémon & Yugioh have game counterparts, and Yugioh even has mobile games.
Whatever, I need to go get lunch.
rare jay
@formal oyster I actually didn't see it anywhere (unless I'm just blind and missed it). But I got it created for you https://trello.com/c/ffD6cES1/687-trade-skillbooks-for-another-colored-version
formal oyster
Alright, thanks
cursive wasp
Please understand we need to change aneki to big brother or Americans won't understand
drifting agate
and people joke about Pokémon's jelly donut localization all the time
opal lynx
The point that I wish to make is that the translation scene back then revolved around very little accountability and transparency, everything was determined by cliques and power structures, friends were the biggest influencers in quality above all else, and that never went away. The idea that a localization takes precedence over faithful translations is a common issue that will always persist due to the inherent structure of how translation groups work. When I was a part of one doing subtitles for rips of Sakura Card Captor and Hamtaro a decade and some years ago, we translated everything as faithfully as we could, down to the original joke material - because both series were already being syndicated on public television in the US.
Localization is something that's difficult to navigate - see, if you're replacing a joke or simply changing a cultural reference that makes no sense to anyone outside a target region. Having been from many a translation group myself, it's very easy to get carried away with localizing things to make it "funnier" but it never went so far as to acknowledge memes. Especially in this day and age, where there's a lot more interaction between various countries who take in the same material despite the language barriers.
minor robin
As much as I appreciate the essay you've written there, what did I just say
livid fable
Has the en team considered doing an en dub, this allows them to shake off the restraints and stop being held back by East Asian story telling and be able to embrace a true localisation that appeals to the western audience in the English release while not confusing those who can understand Japanese but read English!
dim hamlet
wow what a progressive gamer we have right here
drifting agate
That would probably kill EN
formal oyster
That and I think one dub is already expensive enough ( Especially with such famous voices for JP )
opal lynx
Please, god, no. The budget for English VAs would be pennies and the vast majority of them are untalented seiyuus to begin with.
dim hamlet
dont forget to hire western artists to draw for EN exclusive botes as well !!!
minor robin
@dim hamlet look if you have nothing productive to add, just don't say anything at all.
ornate basin
yostar jp was employing artists awhile ago, thats where you look, not here
livid fable
Surely it would appease those who dislike localisation attempts if the content was localised from the start!!
minor robin
Can we keep the sarcasm out of here.
If you're not going to give any productive feedback, please keep quiet.
I won't be so nice the next time this happens.
dim hamlet
this kind of threatening never happen in JP
minor robin
I don't see how that's relevant when you're deliberately trying to incite more argument.
fickle nest
Look the higher ups have already said there looking into the translations so talking about this is kind of pointless
velvet adder
To be honest, I am at the brink of either tearing the translation apart piece by piece and just quitting the game.
This whole fiasco wouldn't have happened if we had the same quality translation as anything before Winter's Crown.
Please take note how the community is going out of their way to get their point across.
dim hamlet
There's certainly lack of respect for the players considering how many times translation has been fucked up for the past few months
sour monolith
Honestly surprising how many different people sent translation feedback here in the last few days.
ornate basin
for a lack of respect we’ve sure done a lot of compiling on this feedback and even the staff have said something
regardless, keep this as feedback please
not ranting, there is a difference
drifting agate
Not to be that guy but that's your job
eager aspen
Not to be that guy but the majority here is community driven
ornate basin
I never said it wasnt so why state that like its a point against feedback
viscid halo
We dont need you attacking staff and other users here.
drifting agate
I'm not attacking anyone but the staff responding to outrage and stuff is just what they're supposed to do in these situations. It's not really something that shows any real respect towards the players, it's just people doing what they're supposed to, like a cashier smiling when greeting a customer
minor robin
Just a fair reminder people like kawaa are not staff
silk agate
http://i.imgur.com/4GQW8.jpg
I want the left. Seems like AL is falling towards the right
dim hamlet
MICA trojan
sour monolith
In the end, the staff still needs to decide on what translation philosophy AL EN is gonna follow, they can't keep on standing on the fence any longer. Like on how they decided to close out on "catching up vs slowing down" issue months ago. Hopefully that comes pretty soon specially at how people are being reactionary to any new chapter content at this point...
livid fable
If right had a FBI open up "joke" it would fit perfectly
clear heron
Restart the game or try moving to the boss's regular spawn points, it's a known desync error, usually
Also this is more suitable for #bug-reports usually
royal ravine
alright thanks
wispy gulch
Translation Suggestion: Commissions > "Completed" Button could be changed to "Confirm" or" Start" (if same language across the UI, you could use the retrofit UI and see that the button is "confirm." Having the button be "Completed" seems a little confusing since its past tense.
wispy gulch
ooh I see
velvet adder
In the battle MVP screen, or even somewhere in the ship menu. It'd be cool to see a breakdown on each ship on where the damage is coming from. For example Ayanami would look something like this
Main gun: 559
Torpedo: 34098
AA: 2306
Barrage: 19099
Might be a little too much to develop but it'd be cool
rare jay
Sure thing. I got your specific idea added to our post battle battle screen details suggestion: https://trello.com/c/nIs8Z2aZ/631-more-details-in-post-battle-screen
velvet adder
Thank you!
velvet adder
I'd very much prefer if moderation did not suppress discussion regarding pros and cons of translation/localization and everything surrounding them. Explaining basic concepts is a necessity in the case we're in. If such things are not explored, uniformed people will provide feedback not based on their knowledge but on their feelings. Things like "I don't care either way" are absolutely not a feedback and should never be considered as such. And no, pointing out how different channels should be used to discuss those things will not help in the slightest. Any attempt at having a serious discussion would be instantly dumped down by residing there masses of people who don't give a damn about the issues we're having, as living in sweet ignorance is apparently better for their souls, which I'm not going to judge. Regardless, while having 20 post long conversation between two people is definitely not what we need here, things that can be considered more explanatory, like Petra's "essay", as Ender unprofessionally described it, should be not only welcomed but even encouraged, as they're nice tools of teaching people who may not necessarily have the background knowledge required to provide actually relevant feedback. Every uniformed person can say whatever he "feels" is better as a feedback. I feel like following feedback of people like that, who put no care in the issue whatsoever, is not the way AL would want to go.
harsh kayak
Suggestion to lower Izumo unlock requirement to 8 or 9 because at the current 10 you cannot unlock Izumo unless you have a IJN main fleet ship from a event.
minor robin
Hyuuga, Ise, Zuikaku and Shoukaku were added permanently in other servers. EN will most likely follow the same
Then Hiyou and Junyou from w12
shell bramble
I'm curious: 1) Does Akashi count for that, 2) Does Shouhou end up counting twice (due to having a retrofit)?
smoky robin
retro doesnt count as a separate ship
minor robin
Nothing to fix here really
vast oracle
Guys we need auto-repeat system for farming resources, afinity and gears. Farming manually is not comfortable
minor robin
What?
tardy arch
this is not a idle game
wicked vortex
Just wanted to say thank you to the staff for having the patience of a saint
celest abyss
No to autorepeat
You can use auto already & check back
I just auto and open my other device, a book, or a DS and then periodically check back 
vast oracle
you seems not get in what auto-repeat looks like
tardy arch
i've seen what auto repeat is on an idle game. AL is not an idle game.
celest abyss
You can check back periodically after auto
What's the problem with that?
wicked vortex
The big games that are like AL don't have it: F/GO, Houkai Impact, etc. Adding it would just make events pretty worthless for people and not fair to lower levels, right?
celest abyss
Exactly ^
vast oracle
problem is i want to start auto-repeat farming and play another game
tardy arch
oh well then?
wicked vortex
That's never going to happen
celest abyss
Then pause and check back
I play Mario Kart while farming sometimes
wicked vortex
You could also just play on a different console while farming...
vast oracle
need always to switch between games so you could attack other ship
torn junco
playing game is a chore
harsh kayak
its pretty easy to play stuff like PoE and AL at the same time
celest abyss
tardy arch
hell i play minecraft and AL at the same time. it's not that difficult.
wicked vortex
What is PoE
harsh kayak
path of exile
celest abyss
Even if like me you're on a device where AL stops on split screen
I can still play on a different console
Like I said I play Mario Kart and farm
wicked vortex
oh, thank you.
Either way, an auto-farm would also be broken for things like the foxmines, poi mine, maya mine, etc. It wouldn't be fair for people who just began. and we wouldn't be able to make memes about not getting rare drops
celest abyss
shy pond
True
tardy arch
nor would it be fair to people who spent months autoing the mines.
wicked vortex
^
celest abyss
Agreed
shy pond
I will add one thing with translation since it is game feedback, especially with the pacing of the content. Quality control is important. Adding new referrences, changing the story to be unfaithful from one to the other version is an idea which could lead to what we see here. I'd very much like to see the translation being something far more... Regulated shall we say. If the translation team was potentially performing some quality control checks with the JP translation , certain things like missing translations or what is here-unfaithful translation- could be avoided generally. This could fix the issue, but again, not telling the TL team how to do their job.
jagged sonnet
Nice essay amigo
shy burrow
no discussion
velvet adder
The coin cost for the last limit break on super rare ships is TOO DAMN HIGH (10K vs 2.5 for elite, I think 5 or even 7.5 would suffice :/
velvet adder
Recently opened tab for equipment for like the last day so i can scrap all the gear i opened since it doesnt say NEW! if it stacks
and its a pain to remember what equipment i just unboxed
crisp kraken
people are giving legitimate feedback regarding an issue they feel needs feedback
slate monolith
Well as long as it's "Hey it would flow better if you have it say the line like this."
thick pine
On top of that, when they feel like their feedback is being shrugged off, they want to try even harder to stress their point to emphasise how strongly they feel about it
crisp kraken
people have already said that before
people have in fact already said hey, you should have it say it like this, this being faithful translations instead of adding your own influence into the translations
ornate basin
slate monolith
Problem is there is the 1:1 tanslation people,that tend to be overly vocal about things, which is why most people here are
eager aspen
You have gotten confirmation that the feedback is being heard tho
I don't see the problem you keep coming back for
slate monolith
I drop by to see what feedback is given aside from translations here, and most of it seems positive though, or has suggestions for improvement
Heck we had the home button added because of here along with the collect all for missions too
ornate basin
lets keep this feedback, if people are offending multiple times, they’ll get mentioned by a mod most likely
slate monolith
True, and then the "I'ma email cs about this" which is never a good idea though
ornate basin
its been directly requested by staff to not do so, intervention would be necessary
harsh star
About the one ballroom sceen refrancing "love birds".
This really concerns me. Not just the fact that they are forcing a ship/pairing. But the fact they are changing the context of the game
In my opinion. The game should remain vauge/neutral with such things so that the individual player can decide how they want to interpret things
ornate basin
that feedback has been noted awhile ago
slate monolith
I thought that was a thing anyways
harsh star
I wasnt sure if it was, so i thought id mention it. It makes me kinda second guess what else has be altered from its original meaning
slate monolith
I mean there was artwork of those two being shipped anyways so
harsh star
Alright. It just makes me upset that they have a power to literally change the context of the game to whatever their personal agenda/interest is
ornate basin
every localizer has that ability
harsh star
Theres artwork of everyone being shipped with everyone. Wack people will always be wack. Im just talking about the issue in game translation
shy burrow
People get upset when localizers misuse that ability
ornate basin
harsh star
Just keep the game neutral so that the individual can decide how to view things tbh
ornate basin
too many people, all I can say now is check pins before suggesting things
and remain civil thanks.
lapis mountain
What people are asking is an ACCURATE translation, without changes in context and things like that.
slate monolith
But I'm all for the Cleavebro x Helena ship
thick pine
I'm also in favour of translations being more literal, rather than having entirely new dialogue put in for "flavour" or what have you
ornate basin
please note we have taken all this feedback, everything said here is being considered, repeating it does not help it
slate monolith
Just like Enty x Zuikaku
velvet adder
Nor does it hurt anybody
lapis mountain
everything said here is being considered
ornate basin
wolfie,
harsh star
@slate monolith it doesnt matter if the ship is supported or not, it shouldnt be forced upon everyone
slate monolith
Sorry 
lapis mountain
sure I believe you :^)
thick pine
If different people are bringing up the same point, that just emphasises how strongly we feel about it, right? I understand that it's a problem if it's the same person saying the same thing again and again, but this is a case of numbers
ornate basin
@lapis mountain please check pins as I said before thanks
eager aspen
Its not that much of a problem if multiple people bring it up, its just redundant if one person keeps bringing it up
cursive wasp
how does repeating it not help, surely if more people are of a certain opinion it should be treated more seriously
ornate basin
because its all been noted and its being considered by devs and staff
crisp kraken
is there a timeline for feedback, or will another event pass and even more translated liberties take place
ornate basin
regardless, please read pins before giving feedback
and please remain civil, thank you for your time and suggestions
shy burrow
The problem is that it feels like all feedback is being shoved under the rug when you say "it's being considered" while we get blunders day after day
ornate basin
I will leave this here
velvet adder
Which DOES NOT mean that the feedback should stop. Regardless what people with less mental strength/more impressionable maybe let to believe by what Kawaakari is saying, there's no way they can suddenly disallow feedback regarding those issues
crisp kraken
that pin says dont send an email to customer support
cursive wasp
A great way to get more people to send emails is to try stopping people from actually giving feedback in other channels, just saying
crisp kraken
it says all the feedback is being considerate, not do not put the feedback into game-feedback. they say they are analyzing it so we are giving more data
tropic stratus
I'm more interested in knowing when there'll be an announcement (or whatever the result of 'looking into it') will be.
crisp kraken
no where in the pinned post does it say you cannot post about the translations in game-feedback about this issue. if you do want to stop translation feedback here people will just send it to their customer support email
ornate basin
keep this game feedback
dim hamlet
This MICA is trying too hard
final cape
The issue for me is that this is not something that is going to stop now, or in the future. People won’t stop mailing CS no matter how much you ask them because they feel like they’re not being listened to here, regardless if the mods or you think they are. And as long as these “”localizations”” keep happening, which as we are patronizingly reminded in here over and over ‘don’t discuss localization issues lol’, people are going to be mad. If you want to accept that the translators have the ability to ‘localize’ because ‘this is something that every translator has’, and your definition of localization is ‘completely changing a line so we can force a ship we personally believe is cool and funny for the English community’, you absolutely HAVE to deal with people not liking it, people complaining, people emailing customer service, and this going on. Why? Because it’s not going to stop. People want to frame this as ‘well nobody will be happy’ and a zero sum game when it genuinely is not. If they had kept the ‘LOL FBI ENTERPRISE ROFL’ line as ‘You just don’t change, do you Ark Royal’, a few things would have happened. 1) Nobody would have complained, and 2) the people who ‘like’ the memes wouldn’t have noticed or cared.
So overall, the situation and mood here, is better. Nobody is upset. It’s specifically BECAUSE these types of ‘translations’ are going out that you are forcing and splitting the community into ‘yes/no’ factions. Nobody is saying you can’t have humor, but the average person just wants generally accurate translations. Localization is really a tool in order to translate untranslateable words and cultural concepts into something that can be understood by a different audience, and generally you want them to be roughly equivalent. People in Japan May not have a holiday like the 4th of July, but you don’t just pick any holiday, you pick its closest equivalent. But people are taking their role as ‘translators and localizing’ to mean ‘oh, we can legitimately insert whatever we want, whenever we want, as long as we personally find it funny’. That’s not the generally understood role of localization, regardless of how overarching you personally may understand it’s meaning to be. Moreover - like I said, if Yostar reps want people to stop mailing their email, maybe make them feel like they’ve been heard? But here’s the long and short of it - people will not stop because these TL issues have hit a boiling point. When you look at ALEN, which in its early days, situated itself as the opposite of FGO and other games, it’s given the audience it has cultivated to this point a certain expectation. Staff members and intern kun used to say flat out ‘No censorship ever guys. We won’t do what they do in other games’. The ability to play as F2P was touted with the SSR rates. They promised accurate translations when the google translated stuff came out. So when awful localization choices come out, it grates the community.
And it clearly is grating more than just hardcore players. People used to cast the criticism off as ‘oh those are just incel losers complaining’, but it’s clearly hit a boiling point. People here, on Facebook, Twitter, reddit, everyone from all walks of life are talking about these issues. And that’s bad, bad practice when instead people should be talking about the new skins. It’s not good for the company when this whole maitanence patch was pushed through specifically to upload and sell skins. But now all you have is people talking about not wanting to buy gems anymore until they fix it, translation issues, mailing CS, etc. So all I can say is that these issues are not likely to stop in the near future as long as the line in the sand is ‘We’re listening, but not fixing anything. The translations as they are will continue. Sorry’. So I mean, there is an easy fix here, but EN team and Yostar has to decide if they want to take the steps to rectify these issues. Someone in this channel once said ‘It may be a bitter pill to swallow, but maybe they are listening but just deciding not to do anything’ and that is fair. They can run the game that way. But you can’t me mad then that people don’t like it or don’t wan to support it. Do you know what is also a bitter pill to swallow? Losing paying customers. You can insult them as losers for caring, but people are sour. Even me- it leaves a bad taste in my mouth and it sours my excitement and hype and makes me not want to spend money. And I’m not going to post all my credit card bills, but yeah, I’ve spent a LOT in this game.
Which is partially why I care so much. It makes me sad to see these things happening. Like most people, I just wish things would run smooth and easy so we can just talk about our waifus and what gun has the best DPS and other stuff. Anyways, that’s my big long rant. I did NOT write this to ‘shitpost’ or whatever, so don’t tell me to ‘keep this game feedback’. This is my feedback about the game, it’s translations, and everything. I won’t make any more posts, I won’t discuss in this channel, I just leave my post here for the team to see and that’s it. Thank you. (Last post mods. Sorry should’ve uploaded a doc instead. Anyways I won’t discuss or reply or anything. Just leaving my pure feedback and that’s it. I’m literally logging off now. Thanks guys 😃 )
shell bramble
Feedback: With the UI overhaul, I appreciate the existence of both the daily & weekly missions for completing research projects. Makes it feel nice to get that as a little bonus (especially for the relevant gold BPs on the weekly)
final cape
Adding to that: getting PR gold blueprints would be dope for those missions. I don’t think they are and option. Although maybe I’ve just never got one?
shell bramble
Daily is purple, weekly is 2x gold (although you're right, I don't know if the gold are specifically PR BPs or generic ones)
final cape
Oh yeah no I know, I just mean I never got golden PR prints for the weeklies. So it would be dope to get those (if they don’t have hem) edit: Lol Heaty that’s actually funny because I also got a steam catapult. Will probably have to wait a few weeks to see if peeps get any PR drops from those missions 😄
somber rain
maybe they do? not really sure myself, but i got 1 gold Steam catapult just today and those aren't farmable outside Research and some Events map
cursive plank
tbh I feel like it will be better if there were more non cube small projects, outside of UL of course that takes 1 hour or less, I don't mind to pay a lot of coin and treat it as a refresh
final cape
Yeah that would be cool, although I don’t know if they’d add new PR1 missions specifically to EN that the other servers didn’t get, even though I think that’d be pretty dope. Not only do I wish there were more small projects, it would be great if there were more of the ‘use purple prints to get gold print’ missions. Right now there are 6 of them, and it costs 45 purples which is offensive when you only get like 2-3 gold BPs (I actually only got one, one time. Goodbye 45 Eugen fun BPs). It would be super useful for the older players who might have like 100 or more prints of useless purple guns they will never ever use again lol. I don’t think they’d implement it for us but it would be super cool
steel kraken
Can’t wait to see which ship you make even cuter with more “chan” forms. Would love to see a Honolulu who has a line about wanting a larger chest to contrast her “school” skin line about wanting smaller ones back. Don’t know how much power the English devision has in the ship making process but I do know this comment will mean absolutely nothing I’m the grand scheme of things. So I’d love to see that bit of continuity in the game but hey, the AL team can push out what ever they want and I’d still eat it up.
torn junco
The announcement windows work as it's intended to pop up every login however the notified check which you can click does absolutely nothing as it keeps popping out and it's pretty annoying to close it everytime you log in which the case should be only when new updates/hotfix comes
ornate basin
@steel kraken unfortunately we cant take feedback on ships/skins/content
steel kraken
Figured lol.
keen gyro
If you're going to censor random things like ewe, please censor the n-word
keen gyro
I did, but would still appreciate the change
slate monolith
Apparently it censors words even when its in the middle of a word of sorts
torn junco
@keen gyro throughout my experience in online gaming, that word should translate into "having sex" in a language from SEA region
another feedback: Makes subs a little bit more useful by allowing them to be deployed at 0 ammo, just shaft their damage by 50% or somewhere around that and make it multiplicative with the current 0 ammo debuff so theyd be dealing 25%; this way you'll have it easier at leveling them and less costly too since you can just bring one sub instead. That, or allow 2 sub fleet in map.
keen gyro
Ahhh thanks for that
velvet adder
Has it been suggested to be able to have more than 50 friends I really dont see the purpose of a friend limit (or rather such a small one like 50). I know having an unlimited one causes problems with loading the list itself but ive had a number of requests denied cuz of people being at max friends and its quite inconvenient being as small as 50
tardy arch
iirc it's been suggested but there's no card for it.
sturdy rapids
cap is 50? thats so small, they hsould make it so that when you level up your friend cap increases
slate monolith
Usually a cap is like 60+ for other games
Or at least it goes up to a certain amount after hitting certain levels
velvet adder
Like, say if you friended everyone in your lv.10 guild, that would only leave you 12 free friend slots its quite a small amount we're currently allowed
small vine
I don't have any intention of spamming any CS email, they are busy resolving other issues. However I too am a strong advocate of the 'translation' needing optimisation, as opposed to localisation. I am not looking for a debate, I am simply stating my perspective on the issue, as a record of sorts.
AL EN already has amazing translations, in comparison to other japanese mobile apps that have been translated to english.
However, recent localisations have divided the community, and as @final cape has stated above, is taking away from the core focus of the game.
Part of the potential of the game is showcased in the efforts that the staff and Yostar take to ensure transparency and communication in regards to the feedback given. This is directly connected to the community which such feedback and discussions are fostered in, and the moderation that takes place to avoid it.
Moderation and the actions that have been taken in response to the repetitive heated discussions will be covered in another post in #discord-feedback.
tldr; community is super important for game to thrive more, hec the localisation, turn clevelad into cleve
slate monolith
Then we should change Cleveland into Cleavebro then, I mean I'm sure people don't care about nit-picking about every translation that is done. Besides the loli ships are given nicknames and whatnot because honorifics won't make any sense, unless they are IJN girls though
small vine
If you want to go into specifics, i'm fine with Little Bel, Li'l Sandy, Lena. Not so fine with Clevelad, or Ugean, which could've simply been Yuu, without the chan if they wanted to ensure localisation consistency, whilst honouring the fact that it was a japanese voice-actor.
slate monolith
The thing with Yuu-chan is that she was calling her pet unicorn in a shortened name, so they had to do something with that one. I think the Clevelad was done that way because of the Cleavebro meme she does have. Also seeing her kid form, kind of confirms she's more of a tomboy if anything there
If you think about it the Cleavebro meme started in the JP server, so we just translated it as close as possible there
small vine
While it is a meme, sure, but official 'lore' and memes should be kept separate, as what it has done is created a situation where the people who don't like the meme being pushed so strongly are now reacting negatively. However, if they had simply done a neutral one, like Helena's Lena, Cleveland Cleve, then there wouldn't be any fuss, because memers will continue to meme it anyway
spring goblet
In each of the shipfu's info and stats there should be their launch date (birthday) too. I think it would be pretty cool to add that in.
small vine
2x exp day for ships on their launch day! 
dim hamlet
Allow us to send msg when friend is offline !
hollow palm
With the new portrait icons, chat elements and emotes are overlapping. Can we get the name and emote positions moved further from the portrait?
ornate basin
hollow palm
noice 
ornate basin
@dim hamlet this has already been suggested, located here https://trello.com/c/mQcu3Vvp/291-send-messages-to-offline-friends
@spring goblet https://trello.com/c/5CErcf9H
oh no I need to add labels
spring goblet
opal lynx
Solid translation for the day 7 event, well done!
cosmic hinge
A shame Helena, Cleveland and Yorktown don't appear. Then again if they did, considering what happened days prior they may have tried to insert more undesired flavor text.
velvet adder
Lord bismarck still there though
ornate basin
feedback here only thank you
velvet adder
Feedback: keep translation faithful to source, thank you.
honest rune
Why various subs have a priority list when attacking? I can't make the sense of it, not for gameplay purpose
deep sorrel
You know how there's this 'One-Tap Purchase' for Dorm sets? Well, how about a 'Buy All Steps' for Retrofit? The ship would need to be MLB and level 80 for Common, 85 for Rare, or 90 for Elite/Super Rare to have the button available, since those levels are where their final steps are.
velvet adder
that sounds like a very good idea (cant use reacts anymore so i have to type it )
shy pond
Agreed
eager aspen
I haven't found any card for it either
velvet adder
Also i would like a sort by time added button to the depot for gear so I can find gear faster that i unboxed (since i unbox 10 at a time, and it stacking means it doesnt show the NEW! icon over the gear i can easily lose track of what I opened if it stacks with other gears)
silent junco
or a buy as much as possible for retrofit would be nice too (so that you dont need to have every step doable, especially since you need to choose a ship for modernisation)
eager aspen
I'd assume that's how it works if you don't have enough
regal elm
Multiple retrofit step selection... or something like that, if not all. That's a good idea.
silent junco
the original comment sounded like you needed everything (so just wanted to add onto it)
ornate basin
I forgot to send it https://trello.com/c/TdOqHcbW @deep sorrel
silent junco
thoughts on my addition to that?
ornate basin
a fill in?
silent junco
nah like one tap, but itll upgrade as much as possible instead of everything
eager aspen
Like it stops when you dont have enough
silent junco
yup, although fill in for modernisation might be nice too
tardy arch
inb4 it'd bug out and give full retro even if you run out of coins
silent junco
eager aspen
Yes pls I need my gold 
silent junco
i just wish there wasnt a cap on gold 
tardy arch
i honestly think at this point the devs should extend the event skins duration. with the backlog they have to go through i can see a lot of people not getting the gems/box by the time the event ends.
i'm saying this more so for the devs sake
scenic ermine
it's the same thing for dorm set when there is 2 limited set on the same period it's too short for buy both
regal elm
Can we have the character limit for fleet name increased?
halcyon hatch
Allow for our ships to walk over land
After all they are Kansen that have legs and not the real thing 
viscid halo
You want them to climb mountains and scale cliffs in their riggings
torn junco
They could do rocket jumps
halcyon hatch
Yes, They can walk cant they?
viscid halo
why are reactions disabled so, instead of 1hour of sailing, you would like them to spend a few days scaling a cliff
halcyon hatch
more effecient than fighting 5 fleets to get to a boss
stark geyser
i suggest that we need more events like eid mubarak, or new battleship from other country like italy or something
shy pond
I'd say the feedback from Master15 shouldn't be implemented due to the massive redesign difficulty
minor robin
We don't take suggestions for new events or new ships, as per the pinned message
shy pond
Yes. That is true. Plus Sardinia faction was mentioned already, so SoonTM
stark geyser
why??
minor robin
@stark geyser
stark geyser
awww mann
shy pond
Check pins next time. But no worries
stark geyser
ok thanks mate
shy pond
Any chance for research projects notifications?
minor robin
suggested
shy pond
Ah, ok
latent solstice
Suggestion to add a Sort By Locked Ship button
As a Quality of Life Change, i got alot of dockspace and tend to save up alot of ships over time, so when i get something new from events its a sligth pain to find in all the Duplicates of ships. (Altho we sorta have this with the Time joined Sorting, but woud love to exclude Duplicates.
minor robin
Added to this blanket suggestion on filters
https://trello.com/c/qYfpGxJy/680-additional-sort-options-ideas
hasty bobcat
I don't want to start shit so this shouldn't turn into a discussion but i've been seeing alot of the TL issues/ feedback being mislabelled as Localization V.S Direct when most of whats being interpreted as localization isn't localization but a complete rewrite of the context and characters in some cases, it makes it seem like people don't understand what the actual issues people are having are. when in truth the Issue is a Translation V.S Rewrite Issue. Calling the feedback Localization complaints discredits the feedback in a way like the real issues are trying to be ignored.
viscid halo
Also, if I may add, consistency in lore and characters' personality is very important to the dedicated and passionate players of this game. We even have a #al-lore just to discuss such stuff. Especially with the anime on the way, we would love for the lore across the game servers to be consistent so that we can have a proper point of reference when comparing with the anime. Many of us care for the characters, and changing texts to have EN flavor, often changes their personalities and how they are perceived. That affects the player base's feelings towards these characters, often in a bad way, as EN localizations shifted them from their original personality. This may in turn affect the purchase of skins and rings for these characters, as if a character's personality is shifted in such a way that we no longer like them, we will not buy skins or rings for them.
minor robin
That would be #tech-support @iron folio
iron folio
Tanks
harsh oasis
@minor robin Would it be possible to add a 'skins only' option to your sort suggestion list on trello? Maybe a 'married only' one too?
minor robin
Sure
harsh oasis
Ok thanks
harsh oasis
Ah yeah that looks like a more comprehensive list
clear heron
Alright, as a reminder, this channel is For feedback/development suggestions not related to bugs/translation errors for the Azur Lane EN version game.
If you have an issue with quality and text, you should be reporting it by direct messaging Belfast-chan#7115 with !feedback.
If you have issue with the discrepancy caused in translation, I expect a full analysis of both the original JP/CN text (as TL is derived from both) as to why the TL does not work.
I haven't seen nearly enough proper discourse on the matter through the proper channels for complaint, and as evidenced by the latest TL report (though it does have overlap) there were a lot of stuff the community hasn't yet bothered to report or hasn't noticed, and I feel like this whole discussion on TL in this channel is distracting people who want to actually contribute to fixing the issues that are in game - there are plenty of that to fix, we just need to both report it and let them know we want it to be fixed in the proper methods.
As an aside, if people were as active in reporting and making proper complaints about some of the still untranslated, misleading, and outright false text, we might see an overall boost in quality, as staff has shown their willingness to adjust things based on community feedback, or at least make a comment on it.
velvet adder
We have been told before to leave constructive feedback regarding TL issues here, then we're told to compile them in a word file and leave it here, then we're told to send them to the Belfast bot.
People leave their opinions here and they get immediately ignored, then another person adds a minor suggestions and gets instantly a reply by a mod.
This is absolutely horrible handly by the community-service, it feels like we're kids in a divorce and have no place to go to.
naive cobalt
We have been told before to leave constructive feedback relating TL issues here, then we're told to compile them in a word file and leave it here, then we're told to send them to the Belfast bot. None of those are contradicting each other in any way.
You can leave your general constructive feedback here
You were asked (not forced) to compile it in a doc, because it makes it more organized, easier to "catch" in sea of comments and less prone to cause needless arguments between people who want literal translation and those who want localization
You were asked to report specific errors via Belbot (and not even instead of leaving your feedback, but together with)
get immediately ignored, then another person adds a minor suggestions and gets instantly a reply by a mod.
because while you leaving your feedback, channel still working and getting suggestions from others. Mods or feedback team can't answer you on translation issues, because there's nothing to answer with. As staff already said (it's pinned), "they analyzing situation and what to do next with your feedback"
You blaming cashier for not answering your complaint about general company structure and trying to serve someone who wants to buy something.
hollow ember
In #gameplay-help, I brought up an endless battle idea with Euno and some, and it turns out it actually sounds pretty good. It would have unlimited time, ramping up difficulty, and we all auto anyways so it doesnt take our time. It has to have different fleet styles for surviving, and we would definitely have to eventually die. Idk what rewards could come from it, but it would be cool.
eager aspen
there is a card for endless battle iirc
hollow ember
Oh shit almost word for word 
cursive plank
oh this one I didn't have a trello account back then so let me vote on it...... This kind of content gives time for a lot of ships to shine imo, especially survival focused (but then Roon exists )
hollow ember
I'd also add to that endless mode different "classes" of endless mode, like aircraft, then BBs, then CA or w/e
velvet adder
👀
rare jay
Hm...I'll get that idea attached onto it
minor robin
Actually... They kinda are about to introduce an endless mode of sorts in tomorrow's maintenance in JP/CN
So err yay?
cursive plank
oh really? I mean yeah thats cool
velvet adder
minor robin
Goddammit I was too slow
rare jay
"UNLIMITED" mode 
shell bramble
inb4 EN's is tuned to 120
velvet adder
Doesn't look like a permanent addition, which is sad and worries me it'll go the same way of the dodo when it's over
Saw that happen with the semi-manual PvP
shell bramble
Still, could be used to test the waters for if it's a permanent functionality in the future. Or might be one of the rotating event mechanics
minor robin
Well it depends on how the response is I guess
cursive plank
don't remind me of the mirror sea game mode, its sooo sad to see it never return and EN doesn't even get them
So I pray this end up a success
velvet adder
Too late, I haven't gotten over it yet
It even got two iterations, weirdly enough - clearly it was feasible, but not continued for some reason
cursive plank
I wish I could feedback about bringing that game mode back, or was it actually possible?
minor robin
I was actually typing about how I should create a card for it
I'll add it later if no one adds it before me
Kinda out visiting right now
cursive plank
ok thanks
rare jay
I can get it, Ender 
rancid idol
To be frank, as representatives of Yostar (as moderators and "staff" of their official discord server), you guys are some of the worst PR I have encountered in the game industry. Even at EA, the people charged with engaging with customer feedback act as if they care because they have a stake in the product's success. Outside of one statement on a discord server, containing only a portion of the community, rather then the twitter page, which is about 3 major translation issues behind, we as customers and players of the game have no idea if our feedback is actually being considered. This is a basic concept, people will be upset if they get ignored when trying to give feedback on something they put their time into. You tend to fight people on their complaints, make it their issue to maybe get their voice heard, and obfuscate the means in which to best deliver those complaints. You have created a hostile environment to those who want to provide their feedback on the game they care about. People who don't care won't add to the topic, and those so offended by it to quit will not either. I understand this is a lot of overlap in people’s feedback and that it can be draining to have the same issues recour multiple times, however this should always be met with the discord equivalent of a smile, a nod, and some statement of it being noted and passed on. People tend to be content once their issue is recognized, and go one their way. Ignoring people’s complaints/feedback, or demeaning it by referring to it as an essay as an example, is a great way to incite the person to escalate the matter. In addition, shutting down discussion on a subjective matter is again a great way to make people feel slighted.
There are some good "staff" members on this server that do engage with the community in a professional manner but, some of the most prominent mods and "little" mods in this channel are unprofessional, occasionally hostile, and are in effect harming the public relations of Yostar. I have already contacted Yostar directly on the matter because of its effect on the the games community but I felt it was important to address the problem directly. In the past, I know at least one of the "problematic" moderators has stated that they were brought on to moderate and did not care about the success of the game, which is honestly a bad mentality for someone that is supposed to help represent the game. I am not returning to this server after this is posted, unless something does change within the moderator staff, as I am disgusted by their continued behaviour towards customers and players alike that want to provide feedback, good or bad. All further feedback and concerns will be directed directly to Yostar, as the middleman has proven to be unreliable and hostile.
Like it or not, you are representatives of a company, and you need to act like it.
shell bramble
Wouldn't that be discord feedback?
cursive plank
@rancid idol the TL staff already replied to this, look at the pinned message, so the problem is that the feedback was heard and the mods repeated that fact for a few days because you guys kept coming back every 2 hours
eager aspen
New account btw, seems like he was banned or something
somber rain
cursive plank
So no, you guys not knowing if the feedback was heard is a lie, because the TL staff left a response, so its completely acceptable that moderation of anti spamming is applied
harsh oasis
I hope the people who are spamming this discord with messages with such inflammatory tones realise they are hurting the cause. If you want to put your point across, you must do it politely and calmly. I, too, want to see change in the way the game is translated but it saddens and frustrates me to see messages like @rancid idol 's.
azure sable
Saying EA is better holy lmao. Way to shoot your credibility in the first line of a rant.
minor robin
Let's just move on from it
Feedback was given, let's not debate whether said feedback is right or wrong
errant tusk
Are there plans to bring back a scrollbar for the missions pages?
Such as the scrollbars in dock and depot? Can't find anything to that effect on trello
shell bramble
Just to serve as an indicator that you've reached the end of those available?
livid fable
I hope those writing 5k word blogs regarding this non issue considered the impact on resumes and future employment of translators before they touched their keyboard to flame
minor robin
@errant tusk those were removed with the UI update correct?
icy bay
I would actually like to make a comment and request about that actually. It used to be really easy to scroll up and down using the scroll bar on the side but ever since the UI update it doesn't register more than half the time. Even worse, when selecting ships in the dorm, sometimes if it doesn't register it just goes back to the dorm. I'm not sure if this is just my phone or if it's my OS (android) but this happens a lot. Can you make the scroll (hitbox?) bigger so it's easier to do this?
viscid halo
If its a non-issue to you, you shouldnt be here. Also, I doubt having translations that caused major outcries from the community is any better for their resume.
minor robin
@icy bay I believe the hit boxes being an issue has been noted about, let me just double check to be sure
errant tusk
@minor robin I believe so, and I use them a lot to scroll through completed missions since I usually leave weeklies unclaimed til I need the resources
rare jay
@icy bay We do have feedback to increase the hitboxes for scrollbars and regarding the dorms, we actually have that written up as a bug report b/c for some reason, you're able to completely tap whatever is behind the ship selection screen
minor robin
Let me just add the scroll bars thing back for missions as a feedback
icy bay
ah ok, thank you
errant tusk
Righto, cheers
cursive plank
Ah regarding the mirror sea mode thing, is the trello created?
rare jay
Yepp, got it here https://trello.com/c/id4u2uJg/692-bring-the-mirror-sea-game-mode-to-en
minor robin
https://trello.com/c/L0i9w0Lb/693-add-scrollbar-back-to-missions-tab
Here you go @errant tusk
honest rune
Having a option to retreat a fleet without going in a mob fleet
shell bramble
Do you have a use case where you want to do that aside from cheesing SP requirements?
honest rune
Sometimes I just use a fleet and having a fleet that is useless on the map just harder to see, with the UI update is even harder to see through them
crisp kraken
Pinned message states that they are analyzing data, so more translation datapoints from players is good. Will they respond as to why it's apple juice or lovebirds instead of eagle union
All feedback is being considered, so if a player is unhappy they have no reason not to post more translation feedback
ornate basin
what feedback am I seeing here
bitter rune
Feedback on feedback?
crisp kraken
It's feedback regarding a game issue
ornate basin
feedback on feedback is allowed!
thats how we(the community) disperse ideas
but this here is not feedback
shell bramble
I would temper expectations on getting an official statement on an instance-by-instance basis if EN translations are altered to something else. It's much more likely that they will apply whatever changes they are going to, and maybe even say in patch notes "We have applied changes to the scripts based on player feedback". But it would be incredibly unprofessional for them to point at a line and then oust a particular employee as the one responsible for it
crisp kraken
livid fable
What if they aren't pointing at one line but instead a series of botched translations lol
shell bramble
Bear in mind flyflu's post earlier today, that they'll also accept something like that as a submission to belfast bot
bitter rune
More than likely all the "translation inconsistencies" have been reported and are being looked at. The problem lies when people come back the next and report the same issue due to no immediate action being taken and even flooding the CS email
celest abyss
The CS email is already flooded with people losing accounts or not getting their gems
People repeatedly emailing to complain about TL won't help
At all
ornate basin
feedback assistants do note everything, staff even backread this channel
we’d be the worst people to not note things
almost no one is reporting lines through belfast though
it’d be helpful for logging purposes if people could
but it seems no one is interested in that
bitter rune
Exactly why it shouldnt be flooded with translation issues as well
celest abyss
honest rune
Make Disappointed more punishing? You get a line and is really easy to not get to this (I don't believe you lose one affinity for battle)
junior bronze
Try again?
ornate basin
sending it again will just get it declined
there are a lot of issues that could be “fixed in seconds” (we dont know how this process works) but arent
but theyre known, and devs will see
if its lesser priority, theres a good chance they’ll focus on things with higher priority
junior bronze
Thanks for the context
I'll give the team credit, since the TL state right now is way better than last year.
Maybe wait a little longer and we'll see if they do it.
livid fable
How is it better? I don't remember any significant complaints until they decided to change stuff on their own to make their resume look better.
ornate basin
they had like google translate for every single event so
I think this team is much better
livid fable
Google translate compared to forced FBI memes and fanfics, tough decisions
regal elm
Well, there's a Mogami line that is missing, and still stay as it is to this day. Not that I want it fixed right away, they have more urgent stuff to do.
junior bronze
Now I'm curious how the TL state is in JP server
late pecan
Maybe we should give them time to actually address issues rather than comeback when nothing changed after a day
limber tusk
Considering the amount of content being pushed right now, TL staff may have been forced to push whatever they have
late pecan
i did, it got lost with the other issues that were repeated
Its clear that theyve noticed it, so returning every 24 hours when no results occur isnt very productive. Neither is attacking staff like others have done.
azure sable
I think the most likely outcome is that they shut down this channel and give people a form on a website or something.
gloomy mauve
Its called EVA(evasion) here but on the sheet to the right it is called SP
honest rune
Maybe a bug
shell bramble
Pretty sure that's written up on one of the boards
vivid igloo
I don't know if it was suggested before or not (didn't see anything like it on trello board), but would it be possible to make setting for "skill activation" pop-up? What I mean, the current one with ship silhouette sometimes covers a lot of map and sometimes makes battles somewhat difficult (noticeable for me in current Extra stage against Bismarck, where you rather keep yourself in the back). Thought about something like in the attached pic, could be in different spot/size. I understand some people like current one, so that's why I suggest setting for it with different option instead of replacement.
dense coral
Increase amount of ship and gear that you can dismantle please
rare jay
@vivid igloo Got it added for you: https://trello.com/c/nIRd0YpS/694-skill-placement-settings-for-battles
@dense coral It's been suggested for ships and I got the idea for gear updated on it as well https://trello.com/c/8piELp64/349-more-ships-to-retire
dense coral
Nice
crisp kraken
its not a localization, its a rewrite
shell bramble
For those that were around yesterday talking about it: Just completed the weekly for 10 research projects, got non-PR EQ BPs for it. So that makes me think it more likely those aren't in the reward pool
(Mentioned because there was some thought on suggesting that those might be part of the reward pool for that mission)
crisp kraken
i have not seen pr equip blueprints yet in jp, so they may not be there.(in the weekly)
rare jay
Hm...I can get the idea down on a card here when I get some time. Itll be a bit though
twin thistle
are there any info on when pr 2 might come to en? asking this because i'm not sure i want to invest any more time/money in en server. considering that pr2 might take another year to come to en i don't feel like playing on a server that is gonna be always behind in content (not necesarelly events). the question is just so i can decide to continue playing on en server or just focus on my new jp account.
rare jay
No, we dont have any type of information such as that unfortunately
twin thistle
ok thanks for the answer
hollow ember
could there be a fading function for fleet icons when i scroll through a stage's map? it's very hard to tell if there's an enemy fleet or not behind one of my fleets
shell bramble
@hollow ember Like this one: https://trello.com/c/9VEKxTdf/44-make-fleet-transparent-in-battle-according-to-enemy-spawn-position
hollow ember
this is why I don't use !feedback for belfast-san
ornate basin
she doesnt take feedback anyways but bug reports 
high dome
She takes feeback
rare jay
Also, for those who were asking about/for it. Here it is: https://trello.com/c/akWDkK8r/695-add-pr-blueprints-to-weekly-mission (and i'll get it archived it actually does turn out that they drop from them)
lofty warren
Please what ever next next event azur lane has planned make it bring back the neptunia x azur lane event. 2ould love to see my cpus fight😢😚
celest abyss
I don't think they take event suggestions here
Also, EN is trying to catch up & there's a good chance collabs will never rerun )legal issues)
My apologies
ornate basin
pretty much
regal elm
Are there going to be any addition for a long-hour commission that is longer than 10hr one? Like, say, 12 hr commission? If there aren't, might as well give this as suggestion.
shell bramble
For what, an even larger XP reward for an oil sink? (As in, curious what the commission would offer to players)
harsh escarp
- Please bring back the slimmer font
- The name display for in-game enemies is a total mess. it gets squished by the large unnecessary space between it and the HP numbers
- The Koln image in Tactical School is still skewed
- The arrows for offscreen enemies are still pointing at the wrong direction
- The Wishing Well is useless because additions to permanent construction less than 2 months old are not included, which includes all the submarines and recent additions. It totally defeats the purpose.
regal elm
Larger XP and wider margin of rewards.
tardy arch
"slimmer font"? um... the new font is slimmer. any slimmer than this and we'd need a magnifying glass to see it.
harsh escarp
The font before the UI update was fine. The current UI is using the old CBT font
regal elm
I mean, it's just a suggestion from me, and level requirement doesn't have to be anything closer than the previous Lv. 70 10hr comms one. Like, say... Lv 110...?
tardy arch
eh the only real issue i see with the new font is this. other than that the rest is easy to read.
shell bramble
- You have a screen with the old fonts? Most of the eye sores I recall encountering seem to be fixed now
- It's written up as a bug
- Same
- I don't think I see that one written up as a bug? Might want to check with #bug-reports
tardy arch
also the wishing well isn't useless for people who haven't gotten those ships yet. and even if they have gotten them you can always use it to get cheaper medals.
harsh escarp
@shell bramble https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536483958628810752/583059634726633502/image0.png
lilac venture
A super event to get all older ships every couple months would be nice.
So that anyone who joined after has a chance to get them, sure some of the collabs couldn't be gotten, but older event ships that aren't collabs could be readded to a more expensive Gacha where you are guaranteed to get one...
Say, the equivalent cost to 5 regular event gachas
ornate basin
well.. event reruns exist for that reason
shell bramble
I think they way they're planning to deal with old event ships is eventually add them to permanent pools -- it's happened to several in JP/CN already
ornate basin
its just not guranteed
tardy arch
is there something wrong in the screenshot? i don't get it. 
regal elm
How bout end-event double limited build boost?
shell bramble
Uploading for ease of comparison with the one above for fonts
lilac venture
Or even quadrupled Smug
tardy arch
they're both easy to read so i think it's just down to preference.
lilac venture
Or how about, when you get a ship, it's removed from the gacha of events...so that you have a higher chance to get the others...so if you have all but one of those, that one ship's chance shoots up by the percentage of all the others
shell bramble
I think that one is already written up
ornate basin
now it'd be cool if the font adjusted to your phone's settings, but I cant imagine how difficult that would be to code
harsh escarp
A lot of the dorm deco descriptions are 'gone' because of the text being too large, so the whole thing can't be displayed. For the dorm, perhaps they should add text scroll if not better word wrapping altogether.
ornate basin
font size I mean, not that eye sore of an android font people use
shell bramble
nobulli
regal elm
Well, people want to have dupes of the event ship, so they don't have to waste bulins on them.
@lilac venture
tardy arch
i already suggested something like that for the dorm desc.
it's in known bugs so go vote for the card.
lilac venture
then can we just get a general boost to ship RNG, mr 3 strikes
ornate basin
@lilac venture safety net gacha has been a suggestion
regal elm
Yeah, about that safety net gacha suggestion. Maybe add like a final-three day event build/drop boost of limited ship, would be nice.
shell bramble
ornate basin
well its a safety net, so I dont know why a boost would be necessary
people wouldnt build until the last days
tardy arch
i can actually vouge for the safety net thing. watched a streamer pull in another gacha and had to "mercy" the character he wanted in. so yes it does work to get people spending more.
regal elm
I just nick the idea from another game 
ornate basin
ya I know people who have spent over $200 for the safety net in another game
shell bramble
Alternatively, there's the streamer they linked in #game-news that got 3x Bisco in a 10x pull so
tardy arch
lol ya i saw that. utter madness.
ornate basin
the game is meant to just take your money, you wont be a "good player" if you dont spend cause the rates are less than .01%
safety net! very good idea!
shell bramble
To Raven's earlier list, while font might be subjective, I think there might be some value in their final point: While maybe not necessitating a card, at least providing the feedback of "For the first Wishing Well, while keeping us in parity with JP is appreciated, it doesn't provide much value for older players" and then devs can do as they will with that
celest abyss
Safety net after 150-200 pulls (300-400 
) may get non-hard core hoarders whaling
Depending on their prior RNG luck obviously
lilac venture
The Wishing Well is good, just wish it was a bit more of a boost to the ships
tardy arch
that's the point? if you don't get the ship by rng whale a bit (if you have to) to get a guaranteed pull.
lilac venture
or not at the same time as an event, as having to juggle whether I want that ship or I want the event ones
celest abyss
Yeah absolutely, just noting how much pulls might be minimum for making it work @tardy arch
shell bramble
That wasn't at me, never mind
celest abyss
Admittedly my wording was shitty
clear heron
Font may be subjective, though it'd be nice if someone compiled a list of how the font's are inconsistent across the titles (for some reason or the other). I'm already partially noting it, but if anyone makes a detailed report by belfast I wouldn't stop them
tardy arch
ya i'd say around 100-150 pulls is a good number. that way people who save up can get it a bit easier and the newbies wouldn't have to whale as hard.
shell bramble
@clear heron Just to clarify, what do you mean when you say "Titles"?
regal elm
Well, all things considered, it's good that safety net is already suggested, even though I don't really whale for event ships.
Anyway, all things considered, I'm dropping my suggestion about 12hr commission. I find it more of a faff than beneficial now.
clear heron
The Text in the upper left corner. The egregious thing's that stands out is how Archives is bolded, while Missions is tiny by comparison to others (though there's a lot of size fluctuation), and Exercises is the only one with subtext. Also, several of the submenus under shop have offset titles.
regal elm
There should be an option for large/small text in the game. would add more burden in coding, but...
clear heron
If you take a close look at the upper left text, you can notice that nothing is really consistent
tardy arch
well if it isn't already added here's a good comparison of the inconsistent number font.
clear heron
Yeah, I think that's been noted (or I'm thinking about the gear one)
rare jay
@regal elm Got the text/UI size created: https://trello.com/c/3PkQHPwi/696-an-option-for-text-ui-size
And for the commission one, I can see some merit to it. More ship exp, and slightly better rewards for players w/ a surplus of higher level ships/higher commander level. https://trello.com/c/bYLNTbFF/697-higher-level-major-commissions
regal elm
Oh okay lol. Thanks for adding my suggestions.
lyric maple
to add to that major commissions card- having it 12 hours long or more would be a major inconvenience to people whose oil is always overcapped that prefer to do 2 major comms a day - I'd say either have it 11 hours maximum or let it have only around 50% chance to appear so people still get 10h comms to catch up on time
even better would be to just keep it 10 hours so it remains a reward for reaching high levels rather than an inconvenience
rare jay
Hm....I can see the problem w/ that. I would also think about an idea about having them both available but that seems kinda extreme
regal elm
The oil cost shouldn't be too high compared to 10hr one, and again, set it at certain commander level. For example, level 110 or 120, maybe.
rare jay
They always have a set increase, so it'd just increase by that amount ideally if it's implemented
For this one, if they keep the same format, it would cost 1400 oil instead of the previous 1200
regal elm
Whichever the dev sees fit 
rare jay
@lyric maple Alrighty, got the idea of having them still at 10 hours but only accessible w/ a very high commander level on there (as the most convenient solution) as well as the idea of having them have a lower spawn chance so you won't constantly get them in your rotation
lyric maple
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torn junco
Also can they remove the tool prep one? The one that gives drill; was once get 2 (or was it 3) of them back to back so salty about that since you cant reroll and had to bite the bullet
I believe i dont have to explain why drill commisions are a plague
tardy arch
i'd rather keep em cause they're guaranteed drills.
rare jay
Some players actually do like to have drill commissions(like LFire said) so taking them out might hurt some players but we do have a suggestion to refresh commissions in case you do happen to get those and you don't wanna do them at that time https://trello.com/c/Ch61IkZA/270-add-options-to-refresh-commissions
Actually, let me link that card to possible solutions to the upgraded major commissions as well
hollow ember
I dont think there should be too many tiers of Long oil commissions. That's unfair towards farmers. I think that there should be enough long oil comms counting the daily event mission oil costs and canteen oil, and gaining oil elsewhere like commissions to break even each day. I dont like overcapping, but if youre putting in not even daily effort, no long oil upgrades for you
I favor some upgrade though
rare jay
Well the higher the tiers, the higher the player level needs to be so they would need to put in a good bit of effort to get to that level. One possible idea for the upgraded Major commission would be to around 100 or above Commander level. That's a long time to get to and requires a lot of playing
sturdy rapids
there's the option of you not sending out on those high oil commissions. It all ends up on oil management, which brings up something I've been wondering. Are we ever gonna get canteen/oil over lvl 10?
rare jay
They haven't in the other servers afaik so I can't say if they have any plans for it
sturdy rapids
unfortunate, can that be my suggestion then? Make those go past lvl 10
regal elm
What's the cap for commander lvl right now? I'd support oil/canteen lvl cap increased as well, providing the commander lvl cap is high enough
tardy arch
automatically claim rewards from battle after a certain time or have the phone go into sleep mode while on the results screen like it does with the rest of the game.
fell asleep last night on the rewards screen and my phone died.
rare jay
@sturdy rapids Got it created for you https://trello.com/c/2oXw314C/698-upgrade-level-for-merchant-canteen-past-10
@regal elm Ya know, I actually don't know. If it's the same as JP/CN (and I don't see why it wouldn't be ) it'd be 150
@tardy arch We're actually still waiting on confirmation for that feature. But I'll go ahead and create a card for that specific part of it just in case it's not a bug and an intended feature
tardy arch
thanks.
sturdy rapids
always love your descriptions toast
regal elm
Okay thanks for the info @rare jay
velvet adder
Moreover, can there be some actual use for the drills themselves?
Their usefulness is well and truly gone after 1 week - 2 at most - of play, after which you'll be swimming in so many of the things you'll have no idea what to do with them but stare at the number and idly wonder if there's a leaderboard for "most hoarded"
Can we have a low quality setting? Without all the small animations that play like hearts on a married secretary, animation when finishing commisions and when tipping the screen
still birch
Suggestion: Could collect all mail be changed to collect 5 or collect 10? When saving mails, having a "collect all" button feels very dangerous...
naive cobalt
@restive mountain https://trello.com/c/CJa2OKIf/700-minor-guaranteed-rewards-for-some-commissions
@velvet adder It was suggested, if you have more ideas - I can add them, but please no "shop where you can buy stuff with them" 
@velvet adder was suggested https://trello.com/c/QNkUSvTr/9-add-ability-to-toggle-graphics-quality-battery-saver-mode
O, forgot card about drills https://trello.com/c/0Qvb8BY3/92-add-more-uses-for-drills
velvet adder
It'd be nice to have some extra commissions that require drills as resources, maybe to 'drill' up some Oil and Gold
naive cobalt
ye, that makes sense
@still birch https://trello.com/c/aBlt4LrU/701-partial-claim-mail
proper pendant
It would be nice to have a app to managing commission and such..., it quite hassle to load the game just to commissioning... azur lane website can do that, no?
velvet adder
Hi, how long does it take for created feedback to show in trello?
tardy arch
it'll appear when/if someone accepts it.
velvet adder
Oh, i thought if belfast-chan says the feedback is succesfully created it would show up in trello. So it needs "someone"(person who will work on it?) to appear in trello.
tardy arch
yes.
high dome
They have a channel where they can observe the feedback and then set the severity based on need
This is needed because back when you guys were allowed to set the severity
Everything was critical
Missing oxford comma in a line: CrIticAl
tardy arch
lol
velvet adder
Its my first time making a feedback using the bot, those options were not there
tardy arch
they're not for any of us. only those who can accept the feedback see those options.
velvet adder
Oh I see. Giving free rein to set the severity of a ticket isnt a very good idea anywhere.
velvet adder
How will i know if my feedback is dropped? Will i receive a notification?
rare jay
Yes, Belfast Bot will let you know if it's been dropped
slate monolith
She sometimes will let you know if it was accepted too
velvet adder
My feedback was rejected. It says "known discrepancy". I checked the trello but it hasnt been added before
clear heron
It's been added in reference to the event
So they should be considering it for her as a character in any case
velvet adder
Are there 2 trellos? I got this from the nimibot https://trello.com/b/XqSmXLq4/azur-lane-official-azur-lane-en-feedback
Then another one
https://trello.com/b/7gz5rAAi/azur-lane-official-azur-lane-en-translation-issues - though i cant remember where i got this link