don't want interrupt discussion, srry if it seems that way, but doesn't Yostar accept feedback with Mails anymore?
Didn't they accept feedback through E-mail as well? (least i though they did when they had about 3 mails couple months back or so)
#game-feedback
somber rain
naive cobalt
They do
velvet adder
As of right now people lacking trust in staff reading this channel is simply an effect of staff members not acknowledging anything that has happened here. Simple "We're listening" would be a good start. Moderation's continues attempts at dissuading the userbase from sending their feedback directly through email definitely does not help any of it.
celest abyss
Email is backlogged badly with support requests ATM
versed saddle
But honestly denying people from sending mails is badly thought of. Some people would rather feel secured having their feedbacks sent directl to staff rather than through a middleman. And of course even though it's kinda rude to say but it's the CS staff's job to read feedback whatever kind of medium is used.
eager aspen
Nobody is denying you from sending mails, only being asked to not do so since it will only make the situation worse
naive cobalt
Again - no one is being denied from sending emails
I'm asking you
You're free to ignore it
velvet adder
Multiple "DO NOT" is not an attempt to deny people the ability to do it?
turbid loom
its almost like Public Relations should be done by the company rather than a bunch of people that don't have stake in the game's success 🤔
frigid shadow
If you're going to be occupying a "staff" role and asking people officially to not do something it's pretty strange behaviour when that is the entire purpose of the email.
eager aspen
There where no "DO NOT" moments, only "pls do not"
celest abyss
It will take up to 3-8 days for them to see your mail
That is how clogged they are with people having technical issues
naive cobalt
No, I think there were couple of DO NOTs
turbid loom
there were
versed saddle
Then I think just let the people do what they want instead of asking them to avoid things. Staff won't be flooded with mails in the first place if things are getting done the way they are. Again we're going back to the root cause of all things.
eager aspen
Probably Ender 
naive cobalt
Anyway, this discussion strayed too far from actual topic
somber rain
Err so it's ok to send feedback through mail, just not at this current time cause "overloading with more major issues such as Account recovery, payments, etc" is that about it?
naive cobalt
If you feel more secure in sending your feedback using email - you're free to do that, but just know it'll take them a lot longer to respond
And the more people sent it - the longer it'll take for someone's problems to get resolved
turbid loom
not like we get a response from an actual staff member here anyway
versed saddle
Well even from feedback here, it looks like they haven't responded yet
naive cobalt
@somber rain Yes, basically
eager aspen
tldr: Do what you want, just know sending mails isnt gonna help ur case
somber rain
ah now i get it, was misreading some lines srry 
formal orchid
*isn't gonna be any more helpful than typing it here
frigid shadow
I don't believe that's true, if a CS staff sees their inbox exploded with 1000 emails all on the same issue they'll take notice.
late pecan
It's literally been a day, a maintenance day no less. Not everything will be fixed in 24hrs and maybe theyve decided not to address your feedback because there is no need?
naive cobalt
@frigid shadow They already did.
late pecan
Not saying that maliciously, but as in theyve decided to keep the names and such.
sour monolith
If they get 1000 mails, I would suggest them having separate inboxes for feedback and actual technical issues. feedback@yo-star.com would be a good one
ornate basin
please understand people arent even able to get their gems or accounts evem for a very very long time due to packed emails, sending these angry emails (when we already take feedback right here with direct access to staff) is going to be tolling
cursive wasp
There's been questionable translations going on for way longer than 24h
frigid shadow
They might have taken notice but they haven't demonstrated that notice to the community as a whole, maybe to you at some point but that's not an official response and isn't enough to placate an annoyed playerbase
late pecan
Perhaps theyve decided a majority care little about the purity of the texts? But that's an DT v Localization thing. I'll go elsewhere
versed saddle
@late pecan You say they do not care? perhaps that'll be a bigger problem then....
velvet adder
You have absolutely no reason to assume that any of the send emails will be "angry" in any shape or form, especially not assuming that all of them will have that form. Please stop assuming that people who have genuine complains and feedback are somehow "angry". This way of thinking is extremely biased and unhealthy for the community, especially if a person in power exercises it. @ornate basin
eager aspen
Nobody said trolls 
frigid shadow
kawakaari just did like 5 messages above
naive cobalt
no she didn't
eager aspen
"Tolling"
velvet adder
"tolling"
frigid shadow
oh edited to tolling now, my mistake
velvet adder
was this reported?
ornate basin
I said angry emails, not “every single email”
velvet adder
celest abyss
"tolling" as in taking a toll, I thought
late pecan
Thatd be a bug no?
eager aspen
Is that the affection thing?
velvet adder
ah shit I'm not in bug reports
You also didn't say "some emails" so my point still stands. But I see no reason to continue with this.
tidal pulsar
I suggest to the staff to acknowledge the problems that has been appearing in recent months regarding the translation of the english version, that way people will know if they are really reading the feedback and will make easier to people to to continue or stop supporting this poorly managed version of the game, thanks.
eager aspen
Thank you 
ornate basin
I dont know why you brought it up anyways as its not the point, thank you for dropping it
celest abyss
I'm honestly glad this ain't the game where staff literally delete any feedback that's even neutral, if it's not "wow hypeeee yay" it gets deleted
late pecan
Vote with your wallet as they say?
turbid loom
"sending these angry emails... is going to be tolling" why would you assume that people weren't going to be civil. Where did hoping for the best in people go. perhaps people get a little arguementative when dealing with "staff" that have the "power" to decide what constitutes as feedback feel like, lets say, feel that subjective things like localization are objective
eager aspen
Because quite frankly people here haven't been quite understanding
naive cobalt
Stop
finite stream
That happened?
naive cobalt
When I say don't argue with people it means from both sides. @eager aspen
somber rain
i don't think this is feedback related discussion 
late pecan
Discussion isnt supposed be here at all
eager aspen
ik, thats why im not you
celest river
The translation “feedback” is getting nowhere so here another problem. Why the EN server doesn’t show the skin tap in the home screen like other servers ? This help to advertise the skins to people who don’t read the news or don’t know about them.
EN used to do this but stopped for some reason
grim flame
i guess they felt that lucky box banner was enough
celest river
Jp have both there is no harm to add it
eager aspen
The current banner is kinda cramped too, maybe it has something to do with that 
celest river
In previous events we had less taps and still didn’t get it I think they forgot about it
eager aspen
Idk why they'd stop as it definitly would help awareness
Especially with the new UI it could help smooth things out 
formal oyster
I also don't quite get why we have Entepri- Bismarck's skin face as en event button that leads to nothing concerning said skin.
celest river
Can we make a card about this so we can report it ? I don’t know how the feedback is being collected sorry.
eager aspen
Reintroduce the event banner for event limited skins - something like that work?
formal oyster
Or add yet another "!" to the shop tab when there are new skins 
celest river
Buy all the skins to remove the ”!”
naive cobalt
formal oyster
By the way, could you also add a card for my earlier suggestion ( that maybe got lost in the Clevelad rant ) where I asked about the return of the chibi animations for the skins in the shop ? I know that this is a purchase argument for some people so ... could satisfy both parties. Especially since there is no other way, as far as I'm aware, to look up for those things on Internet.
Thanks 
naive cobalt
I thought someone else added it for some reason
Sure
formal oyster
Well, just checked and see nothing. But me and trello ... 
formal oyster
Alright, thank you
odd pebble
This seems like the most logical place to send this so if not please tell me.
I want to know if there are any plans to voice act the "rub" line on Admiral Graf Spee.
Pictured below is the line.
shell bramble
Might be a #bug-reports, cause the rest of the skin is voiced
naive cobalt
It's just not voiced
velvet adder
Why thou
naive cobalt
shell bramble
Are there other skins where some of their lines aren't voiced?
naive cobalt
Maybe it was added later and they haven't recorded voice for it?
No idea
Unless it's voiced on JP
nope
velvet adder
Yeah I'd assume it gets voiced at some point. Are there other new lines for that skin?
velvet adder
Oh
You learn something everyday
odd pebble
That was why I was concerned
naive cobalt
Sadly it's not something we really can do or fix
Just have to wait till JP adds this voice
hardy nymph
Hrrrm. I'm pretty sure someone asked 'show what skins/ships have L2D' but what about an icon for ships that don't yet have voiced lines?
naive cobalt
L2D skins are marked in the shop
hardy nymph
Like, in the Archives
naive cobalt
About voice lines marker - it's a bit redundant since missing voice lines are temporary and not intended, unlike L2D
hardy nymph
And I'd guess not many regulart ships will ever get L2D other than the starters and Akashi?
hardy nymph
Alright, then my point is redundant. Thanks for the clear up!
naive cobalt
hollow ember
When choosing the Enhance option when you have a full dock space and are trying to battle, could already-max enhanced ships be filtered out?
keen sedge
Is the depot craft tab sort option intended to be not sticky?
shell bramble
To what extent?
keen sedge
It is always sorted ascending 'cons' when opened even if it was last sorted differently.
shell bramble
Hard to say if they necessarily had an intent -- might request one of the feedback folk make a new card for having the sort option be sticky to some extent
keen sedge
Would be nice if it stayed how it was last sorted.
opal lynx
Has the word wrapping bug on new boat text & oaths been added to the bug list?
rare jay
@keen sedge It's been suggested to make them sticky even after a log out
@opal lynx Yepp, it's a known issue
@hollow ember It's been suggested to have a filter that the player could flip on to get it to filter out all max enhanced ships
keen sedge
^ That and the ability to filter out MLB ships would be really nice. It's a guessing game now trying to remember who isn't max enhanced
shell bramble
What would the MLB have to do with it?
icy grove
Avrora will be added someday to the game for those who are not beta tester?, I once read that there was the possibility of doing it on the anniversary, but apparently it will not happen
rare jay
No, she will be available during the anniversary. Yostar already confirmed this w/ a letter they posted a while back right before the Winter's Crown event went live
@keen sedge So I don't personally see any harm in adding a filter for MLB ships, but I have to ask how it would benefit for enhancing though? Seeing as how there are plenty of ships that could be MLB but not max enhanced
keen sedge
It has nothing to do with enhancing. I just added it since I was on the topic of dock filters.
My subject ordering was weird and confusing, sorry.
rare jay
Ah, gotcha. Well sure thing. I don't see any harm in adding it. I'l get it added to our filter compilation card here in just one sec
icy grove
@rare jay You're talking of the EN server right?
rare jay
Yepp, that's correct
icy grove
I will search that post C: thanx
Well i have a question
when is actually the anniversary of EN?, i mean, the date
mellow gyro
Sometime mid August
icy grove
ohh, thanks
mellow gyro
I think the 16th but I’m not completely sure
analog jay
16 august
wise hearth
This expression would be a waste if it stayed on the Promise affinity line
I think this should go to the Love affinity line instead
because it would be a waste if this expression can't be seen because the Love affinity line is overlapping with the promise because "Love" has the new voice lines
or we could just make the line for promise instead which would be alot easier.
i'll be waiting for the response, thankyou Devs and mods, also the AL community
rare jay
@wise hearth Alright, got the suggestion created for you. Here's the card for reference: https://trello.com/c/nQDka7q3/660-change-to-graf-spees-a-novel-anniversary-skin-expression
wise hearth
@rare jay please let me hug u qwq
shy pond
I would kindly ask for the skin description lines to be reintroduced to the AL skin shop. It would add a lot more flavour to them, as well as provide some info together with potentially getting more people to be interested, especially when these lines are available already in the skin tab (far from searhing eyes sadly)
gleaming echo
i think its not nessesary for >lv100 requirement for D3 clearing mode, please change it to around lv90, thank you
minor robin
it's been fixed with the latest hot fix, please restart the game
mellow gyro
restart the game
gleaming echo
i read the change log in fb, they wrote only change the trp req
mellow gyro
they fixed it though
spring crescent
since commander names are unique, would it be possible to do a periodic sweep (every 6 months? every year?) and have commanders who haven't logged in for x days have their name changed to a generic username?
naive cobalt
That kinda a little bit goes against "Welcome back" campaigns and missions
spring crescent
seems kinda weird that we have both a unique name and user ID where most other games use one or the other
also if a player hasn't logged in for months on end and came back to a returner campaign, would they really mind if their name was like "commander123456" if there was also a free name change or something in their inventory?
just seems kinda strange that if people can be searched using their ids that people who don't even play can keep hostage "good" commander names
static needle
imo they should just remove the Unique commander names and make anyone be able to use any dupe ones 👀
ornate basin
cant do that due to support inquiries
if they cant access their UID, its going to be hard to contact them if they have 2 users of the same name on the same server
static needle
mmm i guess the UID code isnt enuf for it. Its pretty common for new mobages to have multiple dupe names though but well 👀 Al thingy
spring crescent
i personally like how league, for instance, does their name decay: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201751914-Inactive-Summoner-name-rules
but yeah, if there are too many other logistical issues then it's whatever
haughty jay
the text says "apple cider" when you can clearly hear her say orange (oh-ren-ji) juice
celest river
Can confirm
high dome
while that edit is amuzing, it doesn't belong in this channel
mellow gyro
regal elm
If you see that as translation issue, then pls report that to @agile otter
ornate basin
someone already did
drifting edge
Is Yostar planning to loli every non loli ship? 
I think they should slow it down a bit or spread out the loli releases at least.
honest rune
If you ask me, best plan eva
ornate basin
its for childrens’ day
they cant slow down a holiday
drifting edge
hasty sinew
can we please get some different ships on exhange ?
I mean its always the same dang ships over and over
cursive plank
Or ya know, core data shop rotation already
If you guys don't want to release the BB auxiliaries yet please release the others, esepcially Submarine equipments
harsh oasis
Would it be possible to have the dock sorted with all the ships resting in the dorm at the top? It's a bit of a pain scrolling through to deselect the ships that are resting.
velvet adder
It would be nice to be able to see the Ironblood oath frame outside of the chat too. Maybe in the upper left corner of the homescreen, where the secretary ship icon is. Since not everyone who has it uses the chatbox, at least with that, they can appreciate the icon without having to use chat
outer galleon
would it be possible to make the portrait visible on homescreen as well or when we're sharing profiles, its such a shame that it only appears on chat box which is 99% of the time is not being used, was hoping its gonna be shown here as well:
formal oyster
I agree with that. It's already a pain to get it, if it's only for the chat that is kinda good for nothing except spamming Yeptune or Sandy emotes...
willow edge
Wait how do I make a report to yostar for my shop for not delivering my purchased items
outer galleon
hope they notice this
viscid halo
@willow edge #tech-support
willow edge
Thanks pall
velvet adder
just wanna know if there are any plans to make any of the sirens obtainable (soon or not soon)
eager aspen
So far nothing is know about the availability of Sirens
Tho it'd be interesting to see them as such 
velvet adder
that's exactly why I asked
regal elm
they'll arrive if you sacrifice all the shipgirls you own
eager aspen
If anything is planned I'd doubt them revealing anything before they are ready to release it
minor robin
I believe something about sirens was revealed in last year JP 1st anni stream, but i can't remember for the life of me
eager aspen
I don't think that was Sirens, it was about the alters iirc
shell bramble
Remember though that at this time, per the pinned messages, they aren't taking feedback for new ship suggestions gotta catch up with the other clients first
vital sparrow
I spend 5$ to buy gems and didn't get is, what do i do?
shell bramble
#tech-support will help you out
harsh oasis
There was something about Purifier in the new Azur Lane Crosswave game wasn't there?
gloomy mauve
Maybe add bought limited skins in the shop under the owned section so you can see all skins that you have and not just the permanent ones, maybe even a category for owned skins might be nice. It is hard to track which limited skins you own
hardy crest
Play store price and in game advertised price should match. Currently in game is 39.99 and play store charges 40.99.
shy pond
Since nobody seemed to notice, I will re-iterate on a statement I made. If you build an event ship, temporarily reduce its chance of dropping and increase the chances of the ones you don't have getting built. After you have all of them, reset the chances.
alpine crown
alright, can you report an entire chat? Washington Room 3 has the Nakadashi guy again and the meaningless headnod spam that's flooding and preventing newbies from asking help
eager aspen
iirc those are just bot accounts
A couple of those have been banned afaik
alpine crown
i know. player is infamous. that's why i'm here, asking
eager aspen
tbf I didnt realise he was still around
regal elm
you wanna report the player or...?
eager aspen
The problem is, its usually like 5 accounts at the same time
Its been going on for a while too
agile otterBOT
Hello commander, if you'd like to report a bug please send me a direct message with !feedback and I would be happy to assist you. However, be sure to check #known-bugs to make sure you're not reporting something that is already known. You can also check the Trello boards here:
Bugs: https://trello.com/b/Hd2cMeYU/azur-lane-official-azur-lane-en-bugs
Translation Issues: https://trello.com/b/7gz5rAAi/azur-lane-official-azur-lane-en-translation-issues
alpine crown
there's too many guys to report to be honest. i'll do nakadashi first
rare jay
@shy pond Res already got your idea on our safety net card afaik
meager hatch
Hey just a small suggestion from me, I think that having to name the saved loadout seems useful because sometimes I always forgot which loadout i use for like normal map, grind map and maybe ex map
hidden cedar
I thought you can rename fleets. Unless you mean the equip loadouts
meager hatch
yup the equip loadouts
rare jay
Hm...I can get the idea behind that so I can create the suggestion for it. Any idea where to put the name though?
hidden cedar
That menu is a bit cluttered unless you want to start scrolling.
meager hatch
like maybe around here? Don't need to show all 3 loadout names at once, just show the loadout name that is equipped there is sufficient i think
rare jay
Sure thing. Give me a bit to create as I'm busy right now but I'll get it added
upper mortar
Anyone notice koln is kind of smashed up?
shell bramble
It's a known bug
velvet adder
again feedback on the translation, can i post or will i get muted?
void schooner
It's feedback. Post away.
eager aspen
Aslong as you don't attack someone feel free 
ornate basin
as long as its sticks to the pins
hardy nymph
Maybe for PR ships development, make it possible to turn in some of it at once? Mostly the design breakthrough and hill constrction?
Or at least show how close you are to having enough, instead of showing 0 at not enough and 100 at enough?
eager aspen
Turning in the resources at once might screw people over if they have to use them for something they consider more worth.
The clearer indication of how close you actually are I agree with tho.
honest rune
Making QF more useful? Every idea that I have is little broken.
Selling boxes more that opening 1300+ T3 and every 100 of them I have to clear the storage
shell bramble
What's QF?
honest rune
Quick Finisher
rare jay
@meager hatch Okay, sorry for the long delay I took a lot longer than expected but I got your suggestion created https://trello.com/c/0GwOjlzV/661-ability-to-name-equipment-loadouts
@hardy nymph Having just the option (but not being forced to) doesn't sound too bad of an idea. Card for reference: https://trello.com/c/Ra2GOM1y/662-turn-in-multiple-pr-requirements-at-once
@honest rune We do have a card for more uses for QFs https://trello.com/c/YLUzcr4F/301-add-more-uses-for-quick-finishers
honest rune
Selling box tho?
rare jay
Hm.....I could see that being pretty abusable due to how many boxes you can end up hoarding so it'd need some serious balancing
honest rune
Yeah but is not fun openning 1300+ boxes.
naive cobalt
that's why I mean it's fine to add this suggestion and it's not abusable
I'll add it
rare jay
You got it, Res? Thank you 
rare jay
Speaking of that, from me personally, an auto-burn feature would be pretty nifty when opening boxes. Like the FP gacha in FGO
naive cobalt
shell bramble
auto burn?
rare jay
Yepp
naive cobalt
Like, if you opening purple boxes to burn all blues auto?
shell bramble
So like, from the screen showing you what you got, select the things to disassemble right there?
naive cobalt
More like a checkmark before you even open
To disassemble all the unwanted stuff
So it won't even clutter your inventory
rare jay
I ain't about to expand my equip inventory for all the blues 
Well, I was gonna add it but thank you again, Res 
icy bay
I would like to make a suggestion. Can we have a way to go back and see what items/ships we received after you "click to continue" when you beat a stage? There's been times where I tap a bit too quickly and it goes straight to the exp screen. Can we add like a little button on that screen to go back and/or be able to view the items/ships received again.
rare jay
Hm...a back button for the post battle screen Sure, I'll get it added. One sec
@icy bay Got it created for you. Card for reference: https://trello.com/c/Tmwc0jQx/665-back-button-for-post-battle-screen
icy bay
Alright, thanks a bunch.
hardy nymph
What if it was just one screen with a continue button instead of like 3-4 separate screens
eager aspen
That might make it a bit too cluttered imo
grave kettle
why does this say its for decoration only. its inaccurate and needs to be changed
its for 2nd flr dorm btw
lyric maple
yea it should def indicate that 5 new resting slots are added, they just don't grant xp
grave kettle
my guildmate is hesitating to buy that cos of the text
tardy arch
k so i couldn't find this on the trello so...
decor token commission/purchasable decor tokens. (with in-game coins or irl cash)
the rate at which you get them normally is so slow and it can take upwards of a week (and that's if you optimize your token grind) to get enough for 1 dorm set, not counting the extras you can buy for a complete set. on top of that you can't buy them, not even with in-game coins, you have to grind for them. it's just way to tedious of a process to get the dorm sets.
rare jay
Well they do have the decor token packs in the shop but they're only for big events iirc
tardy arch
ok you can buy them. just saw the token pack. didn't know that existed.
still though even with the pack it takes a long ass time to get the rest. not to mention you can only buy 2 of the token packs. (idk if they restock after a while) which isn't even enough for one of the more desirable dorm sets. hell the tea party one is 2k+ tokens. with how they're releasing these event dorm sets you'll never have enough tokens to get it.
sturdy rapids
Problem is the packs are limited and they dish out limited sets back to back or even at the same time
tardy arch
that too but i'm talking more in a general term. it just takes to long to get 1 of the permanent sets.
rare jay
Yeah, I can see the idea about some type of commission or possibly even a way to buy them w/ in-game coins (but the latter, if implemented) would probably pretty crazy in price. I'll get the idea added
sturdy rapids
Also it only gives 1k even though limiteds cost over 1.5k usually, the exception being current set which is over 3k
tardy arch
i wouldn't mind a high af coin - token ratio. the game hands out coins like crazy anyways.
sturdy rapids
Would be nice if there was a token farming node tbh
tardy arch
token drops could be another way, ya.
sturdy rapids
Like a daily where it's for tokens
tardy arch
mmm maybe but i'd say that's a bit too far. maybe more of a normal map drop with a low chance to get them but you'd get a good amount. maybe 10-20.
cause rn you only get max (if you're lucky) 7 from commissions
sturdy rapids
Oh, make them drop on any map but has low chance? Sounds good
rare jay
Okay, got a gist of the ideas down here. Let me know if anything needs to be corrected or possibly added: https://trello.com/c/Th57Eleh/666-other-ways-to-gather-decor-tokens
tardy arch
yup. and ya actually cargo ship drops would make a lot of sense for tokens.
regal elm
I second the idea of decor token included in cargo ship drops. Makes hunting them worthwhile.
analog jay
I still suggesting more amount of gold drop after battle
naive cobalt
is there some specific reason for it or just "I'd love to have more gold"?
because there's like million of sources of gold in game
and it's really easy to get if you actually save
coral peak
I think it would be cool if there was a way to choose what music plays in your dorm, maybe rewards from events?
rare jay
We do have a suggestion for a type of item that would fill that purpose. Card for reference: https://trello.com/c/wlLZfovq/372-music-player-item-in-dorms
coral peak
oh awesome
analog jay
@naive cobalt every big event, gold is depleting faster than cube
Almost anything use gold, even retro
And after battle gold give less than 100 gold
For lvl 80s commander, the income and outcome is noticeable
If you dont count passive from canteen
For the "event gacha deplete gold faster" it is RNG and situational
But if RNG dont do you a favor then
naive cobalt
resources are limited and how you prioritize spending them is part of the game as well
tardy arch
well you do have event shops which sell you a good amount of gold most of time.
analog jay
Okay fair enough, its just people always going to 7-2 to farm gold
Makes it looklike that the only source sometimes
At least its getting responded, thanks res and lfire
hardy nymph
Decor tokens dropping from Cargo Ships would tie in nicely with the buff they desperately need
tardy arch
option to disable battle voice clips.
kinda sucks we have to mute the voice entirely.
rare jay
We do have this card for individual ship voices so I got your specific idea for muting only battle voice lines added in there https://trello.com/c/rQPP6hpP/185-disable-individual-ship-voices
tardy arch
thanks.
sturdy rapids
has it been suggested that when you go to archives there's an option to show the previous archive where it shows every ship id even if they're not in the game yet
just like in fgo where you can:
Sort by id, rarity, and ascension(i guess in this game lb)
Filter by factions, built, not built
also find it funny how some suggestions keep getting compared to fgo lmao
rare jay
So to summarize:
Show the ID of ships in the archive even if they're not in the game again
Sort archive by ID,Rarity, and MLB
Filter archive by factions, built, and not built
Is that correct?
I may be misunderstanding, so just wanting to get some clarity real quick
sturdy rapids
yes, maybe add to filter "in-game" so if they like the current setup it'll be just the same
tardy arch
but the archive doesn't show MLB status. would be very usefull for dock sorting though.
sturdy rapids
true, just slap it on dock sorts instead of archive i guess
rare jay
Okay. So the sort options are good expect for MLB, b/c as Lfire said, the archives doesn't keep track of that. For the filter option, you can sort by factions already but I'll add the idea for built and not built on the "Show all ship IDs again"
@sturdy rapids Here we go. Just added them as two as they were slightly different and to create a general card for archive sorting options https://trello.com/c/tHdlMDVr/667-add-option-for-all-ship-ids-to-be-added-back-to-archives https://trello.com/c/OlUW0Msg/668-sorting-ideas-for-archive
soft tartan
Please find a way to prevent the emotes spam in the in-game chat (eg. Headpats spam, headnod spam). There are people who are looking for help by chatting in to other players. Others just want to have a full conversation with each other. But this just all ruins it because stupid people are spamming the emotes thus burying the text.
candid dew
can you add a default auto-mode ON binded to the account that when I log in the next time it doesn't get to auto-mode OFF for submarine combat auto-activation. Please also give Sort Filter on Dock section to exclude putting any ships in a formation on the top list of the order. Another stuff is can you also put submarine exp reward screen on the same section with the default ship team, we don't need an extra screen. And also I think it would be better if you could also try to let player perform their Dailies without adjusting any of their current formation like in Hard Mode and Exercise. Please also fix commission's Advise feature for level 70+ and level 100+ ships to sortie rather than manual. This one is abit irrelevant but please completely remove the chatbox shading when player disabled chat. Most important, pls add Advise feature to Rest in Dorm for ships with lowest mood. I know you can do it because of your non-stop daily updates.
solemn citrus
I've had auto stay turned on between game resets since the UI update, only turns off if I swap to manual
brisk pecan
Hey, the core data hasn't been updated to remove the hoodgun and add shells etc, despite us now having the hoodgun in pr. I don't know if this is intended but if it is, it'd be nice if we could get the new aux etc in the core shop next month.
eternal anvil
Hello, I don't know if this is the right place to ask this -I'm leaving this discord in a bit anyway-. I just wanted to know who should I contact to complain about the translation -or shall I say fanfiction?- of the EN version.
mint lake
brisk pecan
hey that discussion we had a few days ago.
Don't email them, or complain here*
tardy arch
this isn't a complaint channel. and emailing them probably won't have any effect either.
brisk pecan
Yea, that's true
eternal anvil
Well, they're clearly ignoring complaints then. I'll just send a mail to Manju complaining about the EN team before dropping the game, then.
Thank you.
mellow gyro
dont waste their time
ornate basin
manjuu like... yostar's owner/side partner?
static needle
I don't see the point in complaining when leaving the game anyways
brisk pecan
obviously them just changing the tl would make him stay i guess 
opal lynx
Why is the translation so different in the EN version for the newest scene?
別になんか交際するわけでもないし、自分のしたいことをすればいいじゃない。ほら、ユニオンのあの人たちのようにダンスを楽しんでもいいし、夕立のように食べまくっても別にいいから is the JP line.
ornate basin
we can totally read that
opal lynx
It translates to "You don't need to worry about anything else, just do what you want. You can enjoy dancing like those in the Union, or you can just eat like Yuudachi like she does at parties."
But instead, it's localized to "I'm about to let you in on a little secret. See, the trick is, just do what you wanna do! You can go dancing like those two lovebirds over there. Or sink your fangs into some grub like Yuudachi over there." Where did the two lovebirds line come from?
ornate basin
im obviously gonna let a translator assistant get at this one, but one line being different doesnt make it “so different” imo, also the game is translated from CN
opal lynx
But I also have the original CN line right here as well.
你看,像白鹰那几位那样跳跳舞,或者像那家伙那样放开了吃~只要自己觉得开心不就好了嘛~.
Translated, it's: "Look, dance like the Eagle Union girls, or let go of yourself like [Yuudachi]~ As long as you feel happy, it’s fine~."
I think the translator misinterpreted the entire Eagle Union as referring to Cleveland and Helena.
ornate basin
but it also says those in the eagle union or eagle union girls I think its really up to the localizer to decide that
regal elm
Which line is this?
ornate basin
because JP can be interpreted as specific eagle union girls, not the whole
velvet adder
it is a datamined line, we don't know if it will be implemented
ornate basin
why are you making feedback on something not in the game
or rather, not released in the live game
opal lynx
... Not to be insulting, but if it's a datamined line, it will be in the game.
ornate basin
thats not true
opal lynx
What's the point in translating something that won't be in the game, then?
ornate basin
I dont think I’ll take this as feedback since its not in the game yet
it could be the initial translation, it could change
velvet adder
just wait, tomorrow we will know for sure
regal elm
Why are you datamining the line anyway?
ornate basin
once its out, feel free to reinstate your points again
opal lynx
Because I'm curious.
velvet adder
btw is there any plan for a divorce option? Obviously as a one time only thing, or even paid for that matter.
Why pay to divorce a boat 👀
regal elm
For what will you gain?
velvet adder
mainly to get the ring back
ornate basin
no
velvet adder
I mean, just get another ring then
ornate basin
we wont be giving the ring back
regal elm
Paying to get the ring back...
ornate basin
but you can make a suggestion to divorce and not get the ring, but I think its possible to medal an oathed ship?
velvet adder
yeah one time only makes more sense
Doesn't make a whole lot of sense, you're paying either way but in one case you're not even keeping the ring +6% stat buffs
ornate basin
but if they have high level then you wouldn’t want to medal them regardless
unless you hate them
do you want to make a suggestion to divorce them but not keep the ring?
velvet adder
it is mainly because the translation consisntency has made me question the actual ship lines that made me oath them, as i dont oath for gameplay
regal elm
...ah here we go again...
opal lynx
I'm not sure if insinuating that Cleveland and Helena are in love is necessarily a good idea when you can marry said boats after the recent furor over the newest set of translations... but I digress.
velvet adder
how do you make a suggestion?
ornate basin
you just state your suggestion here
velvet adder
a one time only divorce could also be good for f2p shikikans that oathed too fast
ornate basin
and people are free to comment on it, but regardless feedback assistants will make a card for it if follows the rules in pins
velvet adder
and want to spent on dorm slots or dock space
ornate basin
you wouldn’t get the gems or the ring back though
velvet adder
I don't ring for gameplay either, I read the lines on the wiki first and look at her and then decide if she's a good, worthy shipfu 💖
oh then it is pointless lol
ornate basin
you cant refund anything that was bought with gems (plus you get one for free)
regal elm
Well... why would you pay to get the ring back when you can just pay to buy another ring?
velvet adder
paying for it was dumb forget about it
opal lynx
Being spiteful to the boat you've married...
ornate basin
understood
opal lynx
I mean, it's kind of silly to divorce a boat in the first place, seeing as you have to do multiple actions to confirm that yes, you will marry that boat. 
velvet adder
tl aside, i still think it wouldnt be too bad if you could have your (free) ring back as a one time only thing. but it is not allowed so this suggestion is pointless.
ornate basin
its mainly due to the extra stats, affinity, and well, if they get a skin
you could argue “just remove it all” but the history has already been made
regal elm
Actually, on the subject on the ring, can I have another suggestion?
An indicator of a ship's affection in the battle result... of some sort, so it'll be easy to see their affection point increase after battles.
frank adder
Hi there. This just mere suggestion I think it quite good if there a option for trade license to valid 3 month(90 days).it just my IMO only
ornate basin
let me check if thats been suggested rq
frank adder
Thank you
regal elm
I think suggestion about extending the trade license has been added
ornate basin
@frank adder this exists https://trello.com/c/clIljYH0
I was actually talking about your suggestion 
but they sent their message before I sent mine
frank adder
Owh OK thanks for hear my suggestion
ornate basin
still looking for both regardless
regal elm
Take your time 
ornate basin
https://trello.com/c/6RfRX7MD @regal elm
regal elm
Thank you for adding my suggestion
ornate basin
no problem
outer grove
Hey Devs, will there be an Event Rerun this month soon?
Please let it happen.
minor robin
Not exactly a feedback
Not that we take feedback on event pacing
soft arch
please have some more different items in the core data shop. Since its intoduction there has been the same items in the shop. I dont need more than 3 twin 381 guns. when will different items rotate?
broken python
Please put back the error code when you get disconnected or log in on another device etc
brisk pecan
@soft arch dunno. apparently shells were added with w12 on jp/cn. maybe when we get w12+120 we'll get shells and so on
soft arch
i mean, the shop has been the same for months. so variety would be nice
brisk pecan
yea, i do agree with you.
somber rain
i was expecting core data to be different this time as well. Guess what's in the core shop is related with when W12 comes after all
solemn citrus
More oxytorps 
brisk pecan
for what it's worth and i know this isn't game feedback but eh, i reckon we'll get w12 not long after scherzo ends.
just seems like good timing to me
cursive plank
Also where is McCluskey and Submarine oxygen equips in the core data shop? They are not to be forgotten too
velvet adder
might as well forget the clusky, it's pretty awful
dire isle
may I ask: do we have a suggestion that keep Aux gun slot beside Reconnaisance slot of BBV instead of delete it? So BBV can use Aux gun or Reconnaisance as user's choice. This will make more ppl retrofits full Hyuuga/Ise/Fusou/Yamashiro intead of partial retrofit.
deep barn
Make something for the vanguard like the flagship Exp buff
analog solstice
Implement exp purging or prestige-ING when hit max 3 million to acquire for stat boost or faction stats boost
naive cobalt
Or, you know, that exp might be used for when level 120 comes to level your ships
modest patrol
uh I don't come this place at all but is there any possible way to update the game? because it wants update from play store but game not allowed in my country :[ (@ me for answer pls thanks)
rare jay
@modest patrol You can download the app and updates from a third party app provider such as QooApp, APKPure, and the similar
modest patrol
thanks 
harsh oasis
Hey, would it be possible to get a more efficient way of sorting equipment blueprints in the 'craft' tab of the depot? I think a method of sorting like in the dock would be very good as it is tedious to scroll through loads of blueprints to, for example, check your progress on one. Like DD guns, CL guns, Submarine torps etc. etc.
shell bramble
Take a look at this one, point #10, and see if that sounds like what you're suggesting: https://trello.com/c/MJEr9onC/420-additional-filters
Unrelated, but I think these two cards are effectively duplicates, so team might want remove one or the other:
https://trello.com/c/G29ELxAc/86-add-retrofit-blueprint-supplies-bundles
https://trello.com/c/S8CA9XRg/284-add-retrofit-blueprint-supplies-package
tulip summit
in the chat, maybe have the popup menu closed after clicking on any of the buttons? kinda annoying to open a profile, then close it and then have to close the popup as well =\
rare jay
Sure thing. Got it created: https://trello.com/c/EFJXXlPH/670-close-chat-pop-up-after-selecting-an-option
tulip summit
thanks!
modern trench
i dont know if it's a bug but i used over 100 cubes to get u 73 ,i got like 5 bismark , 10 of the other limited event characters but i never droped any u 73 ... Can you help me ?
rare jay
Unfortunately we can't. That's just RNG for you. It can be cruel and ruthless at times
modern trench
Thx anyway
analog solstice
"Implement exp purging or prestige-ING when hit max 3 million to acquire for stat boost or faction stats boost"
Edit: After lv 120 allow this purging or prestige-ing unless they plan to go to lv 130
velvet adder
This is a #gameplay-help question
Anyway, just clear the map again
velvet adder
Add the collect all button from missions to commissions as well
velvet adder
Yeah but on the actual tab
since im usually in the sortie map and i click commission there (also i have to visit the tab itself anyway to set more)
velvet adder
tacit lantern
Not sure is it was already mentioned here, but in the big events there's always point mechanic and when you brought everything from the shop, the points becoming useless so you can only take some rewards from milestones for total amount of points. So the only reason to farm event maps is to get some drop from them, which makes no difference between normal maps.
Would be great if there will be some kind of gacha, where you can spend exceeding points to get some items which are dropping on those event maps, for example, equip bps. And the exchanging rate can be whatever devs will decide, even at high exchange rate it will be something anyway.
Ah I see, it was not in a event desk, but in the Feature Suggestions. Can you add to this card (may be will be better to move this card in the Event section, imo) another option for spending exceeding points in gacha for map bps, as I described before?
naive cobalt
Sure, lemme add it
shy pond
@modern trench Welcome to the club In all honesty, there have been many suggestions for that topic. The fun part is when you realise that there is a total of less than 5% chance of you not getting U73 after 120 builds...
coral reef
And if I got 4 of both subs but no Z36 what where the odds for this?
Can u show designs' full name?
regal elm
RNG, nothing else I can say about this. I literally got no Mogami in vdir rerun until the last minute. @coral reef
ornate basin
its been suggested before to have the names scroll, let me look
winter creek
I noticed that the cleveland skin shown from todays (day 3) cutscene of the banquet event isn't available! I really liked it. :( That, and while typing this, I tried to find said cutscene, only I couldn't find it in the memories tab. Maybe I'm just blind, but worth mentioning.
coral reef
I know it's RNG, but it's the third time something like this happens to me
ornate basin
are you talking about the one where shes in a tux?
winter creek
Yep.
ornate basin
thats from the first year anniversary, so it may be awhile until we get it
winter creek
I see. Thanks man, though it was new. I've been around for a while, but not that long :P
solemn citrus
EN hasn't had an anniversary yet, so you haven't missed out on it here
coral reef
When is it?
ornate basin
august 16th I believe
coral reef
ty
supple trench
Please make AUTO+PAUSE button larger and close to phone border, and not make a GAP between these buttons and phone border. Also please make AIRSTRIKE+TORP+MAIN GUN SHELL button larger. It's really inconvenient playing AL manual mode now (I'm using phone with 6" screen)
With old UI, I can go forward > shotgunning torp > double tap auto for autoaim backline shell > torp again, now it's really hard to do. I keep missing torp button and can't double tap auto button because of that ridiculous GAP between phone border and auto button.
tardy arch
i do that too and i haven't had any problems like that with the new ui. maybe you just need to adjust? that or thanks to the auto resolution thing they added, your screen size changed drastically.
supple trench
now u have to look at the AUTO+PAUSE button first, before tapping, with old UI you don't need to look and just press the top left/right and u'll hit AUTO/PAUSE for sure
formal oyster
If it's a matter of placement of the buttons, you can custom it in the options, just so you know
supple trench
wait, really?
formal oyster
Yes
supple trench
no, cannot
tardy arch
lol ya. though you can only edit the bottom row of buttons. can't change auto button or pause button.
also now it just sounds like you're complaining. you'll develop muscle memory for the buttons after a while and won't need to look at them to press them.
hollow palm
I think part of the problem was the position of the auto/man and pause buttons. Those are not adjustable
supple trench
okay then, I'll try to adapt. I just wish they removed that stupid GAP between auto button and phone border.
formal oyster
Yeah if you just ran into the problem, just wait and see if you can adapt.
tardy arch
just tap a little lower than what you did before. if you got fat thumbs or fingers you'll hit them easily.
deep sorrel
When you press the dock's stats button once, you can see each ship's HP, FP, TRP, AVI, RLD (Before new UI, it was AA at that place), and Intimacy (AKA Affinity, thanks new UI). If a ship's FP, TRP, AVI, or RLD is fully enhanced, that stat is highlighted in green, however, this only applies to level 100+ ships. Offensive stats greater than 0 stay white until a ship reaches level 100, even if a stat is currently fully enhanced. As an example with my screenshot, my Montpelier and Shropshire are currently maxed out on their offensive stats, but because they're not level 100 yet, the stats appear white. Having offensive stats that are currently maxed out appear green, regardless of ship level, will be convenient, because I would be able to tell which ships are currently fully enhanced and which ships have stats not maxed out yet.
Edit: Nevermind, additional filter 6
tardy arch
4th slot for tactical class? i'm starting to see 3 as not enough.
sturdy rapids
^
queen kayak
Hi again, I have suggested this before already, don't know whether you guys have seen it yet, but in the ship selection page in the dorm, can you guys change the stats display to show current mood instead? Because we can already view the stats in the dock already, and the mood level is what really matters in the dorm (at least at the second floor). Thank in advance.
naive cobalt
rare jay
@tardy arch Got it created for you. Card for reference: https://trello.com/c/sUUrRbvg/671-addition-of-4-slot-in-tactical-class
@queen kayak We've got it suggested to be able to see mood from the dorm more easily
tardy arch
thanks.
rare jay
All in due time, Res
naive cobalt
Today is not the day
mellow gyro
ornate basin
I do it too
stiff ocean
Fix for the screen girl proportion. She looks dwarved imo.
shell bramble
It's a known bug
eternal bear
Several things:
- Gold is a huge issue as a resource. People struggle to keep it. We need it to make ships, upgrading infa, upgrading gear, research ships and research projects, etc. Because it is so universal, it is always needed. Before research, it seemed as gold was manageable between rolling, infrastructure upgrades, and gear upgrading. Research broke that and from what I hear to this day, it is a huge issue on all servers, not just ours. We need either more ways to obtain gold, or we need discounts on the more taxing uses of gold. To go more in depth, I feel like rolling is fine. 600 per light and 1500 per heavy/special/event. Shop prices are ok. I do not use the shop anymore as I have the gold for other things. I occasionally buy the really top tier deal or a tier 3 book I need since I am always low on red or gold books one way or another. Upgrading gear seems ok. I find myself out by the time I try to upgrade, but it is due to other things. Infrastructure is a one time thing. The class room is pretty expensive, but those are meant to take time. The main issue is research. Efficient research requires a lot of gold. Cubes are the most effective, but using cubes takes away from potential future event rolls, so gold is the default resource. Free projects take longer, but seem to yield less regardless. Gold is by far the best resource to do research, but project that range from 3k to 8k eat gold very very fast. Lowering the costs would help, or making projects that take more time but don't cost gold yield about equal would help as well. They still wont be as efficient, but the yields will be equal and assist a lot of players in saving gold when choosing whether to spend on a project or limit break a ship.
- We are being accelerated. I understand and accept this. In order to keep up, I whale since I like this game enough to spend on it constantly. While I am not worried future events and rolling even though we have less break time, I am worried about the next research ships. We will be caught up before we know it to JP and NA, but they have a whole other set of research. I don't have a suggestion as much as to bring it to your attention that we will likely have a lot less time to get through set one. I don't think our projects give any more than theirs, so I was wondering how we were gonna get caught up enough, or if we just get set two much earlier and just have to grind harder. Research ships are important. Some will grind hard and get all 6 within a week each, others could take weeks per ship. I wanna know if there are plans to assist us in catching up in research. EXP seems to be the issue, so I would suggest an EXP event like GFL does with their games when not running main line events. A week or two where normal maps give 1.5x exp. Exp which could assist us in the very least in getting the research ship. This would also help players who are not endgame get a few full fleets up and accelerate story progress. As for bps, we still have both research sets available, so we chose later if we need to max a ship. Should you choose to give us the same amount of overall time between sets, this suggestion should not be necessary or helpful.
tardy arch
i honestly see no issue with gold distribution. you just need to know what you want to spend it on and how to manage it. a lot of people don't do that and spend willy nilly and then complain about how they ran out of gold for builds.
regal elm
Periodical EXP boost seems like a good idea, like say, EOM Exp boost
celest abyss
Also I don't see any need to increase xp when sparkling mood already does by 1.2x, tbh
eternal bear
- AP VS HE is a huge issue. AP and HE tend to be useful through CA caliber guns, but in many cases, HE guns are better. 150 skcs are good, and the twin 203 german guns work (but have been replaced by the new 203s IJN guns in the data shop). When it comes to BBs, either 410s for fire rate, or triple 406s for damage. All of which are HE. NO AP bb guns are useful. Many of the guns are outclassed by one single gun or two. Either use x for damage or y for spamming fire rate for barrage. AP being relatively useless among most guns sucks, as well as many gear pieces being totally useless. I feel like we should at least have 3-4 viable options. I propose a slew of ways to fix this. One is to buff existing gear and make it suck less. Making the useless gear at least usable so people can enjoy that gear, and making the semi useful gear really useful to compete with already top tier gear. Another is introducing newer gear, not just through research, but in the box pool. Boxes become diluted with the same old stuff. Adding new gear, not necessarily top tier since that should really be a grind through research, but decent stuff.
tardy arch
ya there's tons of ways to get exp. you've got the basic grinding, dorms, exercises, the lecture hall, and commissions.
regal elm
Also wow the devotion of players grinding all six PR ships in six weeks, they must be rich as heck
celest abyss
Even with the PR limits, PR are endgame shit
tardy arch
not all guns are made equal dude. same goes for irl. some are just better than others.
eternal bear
And I understand gold, I save for rolls, but when not rolling and I have to LB it starts to hurt. Some literally buy oil to hell and do grind out all 6. I guarantee NA's super whales will be. As for EXP, that is ONLY if they really intend to significantly accelerate the next set. We don't need it if they do not.
celest abyss
The PR blueprints gate you more than that EXP grind does TBH
velvet adder
The Triple 410 Prototype (aka Izumo Gun) is the good BB AP gun you want to use when hunting CA and heavier bosses
CA AP is in full swing over at the event maps and W12+
CL AP still rules
eternal bear
Yeah not all guns are equal, many are still useful. If you want realism, you would increase the 380 gold AP damage and decrease accuracy cause the acc of them sucked
celest abyss
make a trash gun more trash
eternal bear
I get what you say with AP, but I never ever get recommended AP even on those maps. Everyone laughs at ap
velvet adder
Because most people are brainlets who only remember half of the explanation and forget the rest
eternal bear
Hey who said realism? Not me, I don't need to be trashed for an example jfc. I am here to suggest stuff I see as issues.
celest abyss
If you want realism, you would increase the 380 gold AP damage and decrease accuracy cause the acc of them sucked
eternal bear
That was in response to another comment to the guy who suggested it (albeit possibly sarcastically)
velvet adder
W13 and this Event are prime CA AP fodder, there's no ifs and buts about it
Just look at all the CAs the D maps throw at you, and how large their HP pools are - pierces are going to happen, also thanks to their obese models
eternal bear
So you are telling me the 380 german guns are good there
velvet adder
I did say "CA AP", the 380SKC remains questionable
eternal bear
CA AP so the 203s. I am primarily on about BB AP being bad
CL AP is pretty good, I don't see AP on DD at all. CA ap has uses as you mention. BB AP is pretty questionable at best.
velvet adder
The use case for BB AP, as I keep repeating, is as follows:
- enemy is CA or larger
- have 2+ BB
- hardest sheller has HE gun
DD AP guns are so irredeemably bad there's just no point, unfortunately
eternal bear
yeah and it makes sense. Either start fires or use normal guns for rof spam and barrages.
shy pond
Hell, I like the idea of AP being modified to Massachusett's SHS stats. Still sucks against light armour, but doubles damage against it
velvet adder
It's part of the reason CL HE is a joke, it's not the modifiers but the guns themselves that are atrocious
eternal bear
Well idk if they go by realism, or game balancing. I could care less. I just wanna see more options at least usable so I can swap stuff up and have fun. The game feels seriously limiting
velvet adder
And part of the reason the Seattle Gun is such an improvement for Belfart, she can finally DPS like she should (for a CL ofc) when she's actually shooting straight
eternal bear
I got another one to fix guns, allow spread changes on specific guns that have weird spreads. I guess fix is an odd word. I guess rework would be better. Not necessarily a fix, just a suggestion to make them usable and fun. I don't need every gun to be good, just manageable
velvet adder
On a sidenote, please no more SHS
Or at least make it work
eternal bear
SHS?
velvet adder
Massa's ammo type, the one she forces upon whatever gun you give her
eternal bear
Massachusetts ammo type does what now?
I don't play JP, I know her event is coming soon enough for us. probs our anniv in Aug/sept at latest.
velvet adder
65/135/115 modifiers and is a lot more accurate - but can't hit anything if the enemy so much as moves
eternal bear
Mass has accurate guns true, but she forces her ammo on any gun. odd.
velvet adder
It's not about being accurate, the gun's spread doesn't change - shooting into the stratosphere does seem to affect it, however, which would be nice if the increased travel time didn't mean you missed all salvo past the first
eternal bear
I get it now, it changes damage on how far it goes
minor robin
Aight let's cut this discussion here.
velvet adder
That's not what the SHS does, the +dmg on range is part of her skill
SHS = fires at very high angles, 65/135/115 mods
minor robin
We've already taken feedback on the AP vs HE long ago
eternal bear
I have one more to give feedback on, have you received any feedback on parts issues? I find myself having very little of oddly specific parts, but having too much of other parts
minor robin
The card was a general suggestion to buff AP
Yes, yes we have, can't remember if we rejected it or accepted it
I believe we accepted it, to make general and main gun parts more easily obtainable
regal elm
More like converting lower parts into higher tier, like tech box and blueprints
eternal bear
ok sounds good. I don't got anything else, thanks for getting back to me and will make sure to post here if anything new comes up. Sorry if those were some old issues I posted about.
And the tier 2s of those were exactly what I was on about so sounds good to me and I look forward to that in future updates.
eternal bear
Any feedback on skill books?
eternal bear
REEEEEEEEE reading. Will do before sending any more
velvet adder
Please vote the option to hide certain loading screens while you're at it 
eternal bear
oh you mean hide lewd loading screens in public option @velvet adder
velvet adder
That
fast olive
is it intended that loading screens are zoomed in?
minor robin
no
dusky garnet
Hi please can i suggest something on game Azure lane here?
sturdy rapids
yes, as long as its feedback
dusky garnet
thank you, if possible can you make event clearing only boss fleet when clear all?
i want to have event when i clear the world and then i can only fight only boss fleet!!
sturdy rapids
basically like hard mode when its on safe threat?
dusky garnet
yes both of normal and hard mode!!
sturdy rapids
where its only the boss that spawns?
dusky garnet
well, boss spawns is ok, just want to fight only boss fleet when i clear all with three star and safe zone
@agile otter Hi, please i want to give feedback, of want to fight only boss fleet when i clear all with three star and safe zone in Normal and Hard mode. thank you
naive cobalt
that would be too imbalanced and makes farming FAR too easy
dusky garnet
Yes that sound about it, i just want to give my thought of it, @naive cobalt i think is easy right? For me just want to fight only boss if we clear all three star and safe zone.
minor robin
yeah that messes up the balance totally
so no
story hard is different, since you're limited on attempts
dusky garnet
i know, just i gave some thought to it.
regal elm
I mean, technically, it does count as feedback, but...
minor robin
we can't really accept the suggestion
sturdy rapids
ok ok, someone from the feedback team will take a look and see whether or not this gets added. oops
dusky garnet
Thank all, at least just make it like use gem buy for chance to do on on story hard mode\
minor robin
That would still be too broken frankly
regal elm
Well, if it's like premium one-day reset for hard mode... yeah, still not plausible
minor robin
i did think of it maybe being on d0
but d0 lacks clearing mode entirely
regal elm
And D0 is made specifically for boost in event currency
slate monolith
Why would you waste gems on doing more hard mode stuff when they can be spent getting outfits, and stuff from Akashi? 
dusky garnet
just give more gem to Akashi
sturdy rapids
D0 would be fucking great to have a clearing mode, since its just 1 run/day it just helps save time
too bad there's no time left for it to be implemented, but hey, a suggestion for future limited runs per day node suggestion at least
regal elm
Yeah, but... you have to do it like, 10 times? That'll be 10 days, assuming the map is already cleared
slate monolith
5 times to be precise
sturdy rapids
better than nothing
coral reef
Could you make flood damage (the number) "flood themed"?
velvet adder
He means making the damage number blue or something, right now you can't tell it apart from regular Ignitions
coral reef
yeah, that
shy pond
Hey, I have a suggestion regarding the "construction safety net" card. Let us say that once per an event you get a mission of "build 200 ships" this gives you a box similar to the x-mas special box, which lets you select a character (maybe for a cube and gold price to even out the fact you can choose different rarities-e.g. 5k gold +5 cubes for an Elite and double that for SR). This would make it a great safety net because with 200 builds you should have gotten even a non-rate-up SR.
This should of course vary, mainly by lowering the treshold for low-scale events to 100-150 on an event-by-event basis
And for those not really liking the idea, let's face it. Even if you start with like 10 cubes, you can usually get 50+ builds in discounting any comissions and missions within a 2-week period
eager aspen
I think most people will have a problem with this sort of system being too generous
formal oyster
It would require you to build 150/200 ships, which already equals to 300/400 cubes spent for a limited build. I find it pretty fair to be honest. It's even a bit much in my opinion.
shy pond
Yes, I think almost exactly that. The one thing this system could not prevent is the fact that you could miss 2 ships. But that is so ridiculously statistically improbable with 200 builds that it is not even worth considering
formal oyster
People that spend that much cubes in an event kinda deserve that safety net cause let's face it, right now if you spend that much cubes and don't get the ship you need, not only is your event a bit screwed, but the next one as well.
So I don't know if this particular solution would the good one, but it wouldn't hurt to think about something.
shy pond
I have had 3 occasions where I missed a ship and as it turns out maybe a fourth is coming. 150 cubes down from pre-event levels and I still do not have a single U73 (keep in mind that I probably spent closer to 300 cubes already, making it a less than 4% chance for me not to get her)
But yes, 200 builds may be a bit much I agree. The art is fine-tuning this based on what ships and how many are available (400 would only be for the really large events, such as Winter crown, divergent chessboard and Visitors dyed in red reruns)
honest rune
200 build are 300k coins after all
opal pawn
kinda relevant to the discussion about RNG being a bitch
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514333481061449729/565893629910974464/Biggest_Yikes.png
dk if the source is legit tho
eager aspen
I have my doubts
somber rain
hard to believe that... but it's not entirely impossible
formal oyster
What car could you buy with that
somber rain
regardless safety option is something they could consider for situations such as this
round edge
One complaint: The Bismarck furniture collection is a bit expensive for the timeframe required to collect them what is that, 4-6 150 coin pieces? Are you kidding me?
tawdry hill
the worst part about that is that they gave us another limited set just before this one, something the other servers did not have
round edge
Exactly, it is impossible to get ahead of these sets that are being released in such rapid succession
honest rune
I have still to buy the default ones...With all this events with furniture is impossible to do so
round edge
Same. If I just had an extra week, I could finish the Bismarck set.… Maybe. Was pissed when we got maintenance a while back because I missed the 8hr night expeditions that give as much as 16 coins
formal oyster
Yeah I wish they would have put some tokens in exchange shop at least. 3K was just too much here, especially when there is a collection reward and as you say, another dorm set right before the event.
round edge
Just gonna have to hold out for the rerun.… whenever that happens.
formal oyster
It's even worse that the night commissions that can give you around 30 ( sometimes more ) tokens a day don't match the timezone of everyone. I'm sleeping when they pop personally.
Oh that's right, I missed that. Nice of them, then.
honest rune
More tokens in the commission isn't a bad idea too, maybe it was already suggested
rare jay
We have a suggestion for a commission who's primary focus is a bit more geared towards dorm tokens
round edge
Ooo can it be the equivalent to the 10hr self training? Give like 20+ tokens. Plz AL make it happen
shy pond
If someone could put down my suggestion towards the safety net, that would be amazing
rare jay
Sure, got it down
rare jay
Yeah, they were asking for their specific suggestion to be added to that card
eager aspen
oh mb 
velvet adder
I Think It would be good to give the guild an option to Blacklist people from joining/being allowed to apply.
*example: if you have someone who was causing issue or such and you've had to remove them.
but they just constantly keep reapplying to come back. for the admiral and Vice's the ! constantly there or having to reject the person over and over can get annoying as well
I don't know if there is option of guild BL already and I didnt see this suggested yet, sorry if it was.
rare jay
@velvet adder I don't believe there is afaik so I got the suggestion created for you. If there actually is a way, I'll just update the card https://trello.com/c/LMR6yuci/676-blacklist-for-guild
velvet adder
thanks toaster
solid crest
Why no filter to look at the skins you own >.<
rare jay
Not sure, but we do have a suggestion to add such a feature as a "Skin Inventory". Here's the card for reference: https://trello.com/c/fUy2Eygq/445-skin-inventory
rare jay
Even limited ones are there now? I didn't even realize
rare jay
Yepp, all limiteds are now there
naive cobalt
actually no
rare jay
Huh? Which aren't?
mellow gyro
st louis isnt limited
somber rain
at least 1 St. Louis skin was limited
naive cobalt
Yes, I can't see Laffey l2d which is limited for sure
eager aspen
The other St. Louis one isnt there either so no event skins ye
solid crest
Can't find the Nagato one in there also i know i'm missing one from a certain character i can't remember pulled from lucky bags. Hopefully some day they add in such filter would be nice
mellow gyro
helenas blue bird one is missing
rare jay
Oh Uni and Fusou are part of the rerun so that's why they're there
naive cobalt
Ok, so disregard. I got why I got confused
They made some skins available rn, so I looked at them
Like Unicorn and Astoria
somber rain
make every skin perm available and no more confusion
regal elm
I second the skin inventory idea. I remember when I got Yamashiro's skin back in... September, iirc, when I just started playing, but can't check it out cuz I don't have her yet, and by the time I got her, I already forgotten about the skin ._.
patent crescent
Hey, I've got a suggestion. How about a button in the Friend List to battle that person's exercise defense fleet? There don't have to be any merit rewards or anything. It'd be a fun way to interact with your friends.
velvet adder
can the skin descriptions be brought back? in the old UI u can still read the description of the skins in shop (along with the chibi animations but thats a different matter)
rare jay
@velvet adder I got a previous card for chibi animations updated w/ that idea for descriptions as well https://trello.com/c/rNIhacs1/659-add-chibi-animations-to-the-shop
@patent crescent It's been suggested before. Here's the card for reference: https://trello.com/c/jCyQ4v7P/427-friendly-pvp
patent crescent
Ok, thanks!
tardy arch
allow us to see full names of furniture. for items like the super stage and whatever comes after "forever..." i can't see the full name in-game or on the wiki. (neither the super stage nor the "forever..." item are on the wiki btw) and they're not in the furniture shop so i can't see them there either.
primal topaz
shell bramble
Folks here can't do anything to accelerate the pacing of content
rare jay
@tardy arch Sorry for the delay, got the idea for a type of scroll function or something for the names https://trello.com/c/P5U2wF78/677-scrolling-movable-text-for-dorm-furniture-name
tardy arch
Thanks.
wheat acorn
Small feedback - would really really like the day/night cycle to sync with our phones instead of the server timing. I’m sure quite a lot of us in Asia can’t read Chinese or Japanese and are on EN servers, hence it’s perpetual nightfall for us! Gimme my bright cheery sunbathed HQ back pls!
rare jay
It's been suggested. Card for reference https://trello.com/c/kgHTGX65/620-day-night-change-port-bg-should-be-dependent-on-local-time-instead-of-server
tawdry crest
Thanks devs for great gameplay and artwork from skins. Gave me the little joys in life
velvet adder
Was an "Ability to toggle music, sfx, voice with a single button press" suggested already?
I know those sliders do something but it helps hehe
minor robin
yep
velvet adder
Oh noice
ornate basin
also ringers do that
velvet adder
Yeah i know but sometimes i just want to mute some sounds to play spotify in the background
Anyways thanks m8s
velvet adder
Hello, I believe this translation is incorrect? https://files.catbox.moe/4akb70.png In CN/JP there's no mention of Cleveland and Helena as "lovebirds". Instead, something among the lines of "eagle union girls" was used there. I don't really understand how would something like this be so grossly mistranslated.
tardy arch
it's known. and more than likely it's the TL team giving some fanservice. (don't @ me though)
velvet adder
This issue was brought into question couple days ago, as another user pointed it out through datamining this particular line. He was disregarded by @ornate basin https://files.catbox.moe/ejlme3.png so I'd like to continue the feedback from back then
oh god don't give them ammunition
tardy arch
well kawa's not wrong. just cause something is datamined doesn't mean it'll be used in the game. and it wasn't released at that point so nobody knew if it was gonna be used or not.
there's also not much that can be done about the translation. it's already out so changing it now is gonna make people upset. (can't please everyone after all) and the TL team pretty much have final say unless the higher ups tell them to add, remove, or change something. so a discussion about it would be nothing but complaining.
sturdy rapids
Wouldn't fixing translations actually make people happy instead of upset
velvet adder
It could anger those who like the current ones
ornate basin
theres no way to make everyone happy
velvet adder
As already mentioned, this incorrect translation was brought up several days ago. That's a lot of time for translators to rewrite the line. As my feedback is meant as a reminder, I don't feel your assumption about me providing it is any sort of "complaining" is relevant
sturdy rapids
Ohh... Understandable
velvet adder
I like the current lines, what am I to do then?
fluid vigil
Way I see it is that it's Shigure poking fun at them more than anything, but of course nobody is going to see it that way.
minor robin
Can we calm down.
Also, can we don't be so passive aggressive about it.
As lfire mentioned, kawa acted according to the information we had at the time.
I'll note it down as feedback regardless
This doesn't constitute as a translation error persay.
velvet adder
Excuse me? My post did nothing but provide simple feedback, including the post about @ornate basin disregarding the issue couple days ago as it's a relevant background to the entire situation, it's not in any way my fault that @tardy arch decided to derail the conversation and go directly against the purpose of the channel by starting an unnecessary discussion, which @ornate basin apparently approves of https://files.catbox.moe/zju1kj.png I ask of you to not label statements provided here as passive aggressive as they're clearly not.
mint lake
here we go again
analog jay
Kawa got pinged again
minor robin
I don't see how pinging him a couple of times in #al-general about this issue is fine either.
I'm saying kawa acted correctly given the circumstances
Whether he disregared or not is irrelevant to the current feedback.
tardy arch
i didn't "derail" it until my second message. my first message was stating how you were wrong in your assumption.
velvet adder
And I don't see how bringing up things happening in #al-general is in any shape or form relevant to the purpose of this channel which is getting continuously downplayed with every post that continues this discussion.
minor robin
The translation being localised differently is a genuine feedback
Kawaa rejecting it at the time before it was implemented is not wrong and is irrelevant.
I'm not sure why you saw the need to bring it up in the first place
velvet adder
To mention that this issue was brought up couple days ago. However, it ultimately was ignored which I found important to explain as I don't want it happening again.
tardy arch
also i never meant to downplay the whole thing. i simply said the TL team is unlikely to change it so a full on discussion about it isn't needed. bringing it up is fine though.
velvet adder
It keeps being brought up and the feedback keeps getting added - what else do you want?
naive cobalt
don't see how any of this discussion is relevant
you were asked to bring it up when it actually makes into a game and now it is and you did and feedback was noted
velvet adder
Can I ask what you mean by "feedback was noted"? I feel like we have differing opinions about what this statement actually means.
naive cobalt
well, as ender said, it will be added to feedback trello board
and predicting your next statement - if you think it does nothing and will be ignored - well, that's the extent of what we here can do, except sending it to staff directly as well
velvet adder
Ender also said that "This doesn't constitute as a translation error persay." which is objectively wrong as it's literally an incorrectly translated sentence. Also, I kindly ask you to not put words in my mouth by unnecessary things like "predicting statements". This feel's extremely uncanny and rude.
ornate basin
we dont take direct vs localization as an argument, in this case saying cn/jp are right would be just that unfortunately
eager aspen
It isn't necessarily a TL error as it could be translated like so on purpose
ornate basin
its more or less feedback on what it could be, not “its completely wrong”
that’d be a bug if it was completely wrong
velvet adder
@ornate basin https://files.catbox.moe/ymndns.png
ornate basin
without that, they’d be winging the entire thing
eager aspen
The storyline does not mean "every single line has to be identical"
ornate basin
regardless, the line has been taken as feedback
thank you for your patience
naive cobalt
direct vs localisation is discussion between game staff and translation team, not between us here
this discussion won't lead anywhere, so I kindly ask you to stop
ornate basin
isn’t reaction spam considered spam?
velvet adder
Very well. If such, I'd like to present a feedback. I believe having little care in meanings of the things that are being translated by translators is a very bad move from out translation team. As EN and JP/CN Azur Lane are ultimately the same game, by default they should be as similar to each other as possible. Otherwise we could consider EN AL a completely different game. By changing meanings of the things said in events or character lines, translation team creates immense confusion for everybody. This becomes not translation but fanfiction writing.
cosmic hinge
So manjuu decided to do some light teasing, and this server's translators decided to go further than originally intended. Feels like a spit in the face to those who like those two, and I genuinely feel bad for them.
hardy sluice
What are the chances that we will get a divorce feature, I kind of want my ring back from cleveland.
velvet adder
And predicting upcoming statement - this is NOT feedback of localization-translation but feedback regarded the mindset our translation team has on their job.
ornate basin
@hardy sluice theres a suggestion for one, but minus the ring takeback for obvious reasons
velvet adder
And predicting yet another statement, what I just said is not an "attack" towards TL team. I'm just providing feedback.
tardy arch
dude it's one line that doesn't really have meaning to people who don't know about it. (which is a lot) so replacing it with a bit of fanservice should be fine. plus cleve and helena are both eagle union so it still means the same thing
velvet adder
Incorrect translation is never fine.
tardy arch
it's not incorrect. just worded differently.
velvet adder
Localization isn't translation
Also, what about the people like me who like this take on the lines?
Our team of people focusing on rewriting lines from one language to another calls themselves "translators". Restart did so too literally couple posts up
cosmic hinge
I just find it ironic that we have lines plastered everywhere that spell out that your a male, I mean the poster child Unicorn calls you Onii-chan. But I guess that can also mean anything with this team.
night jasper
The vibe I get from this feedback channel is that if you question translation mistakes or deliberate deviations from source material, you are "obviously" attacking the TL team. And if you don't, that means everyone is happy and no one is complaining about it. The intern already confirmed that the game should be translated based on JP/CN versions. I guess just file them as bug reports, maybe it'll get a lowest priority if it gets accepted at all. This is the server we play in now.
velvet adder
Alright, well, I suppose it's only you guys who matter
eager aspen
Whether it gets accepted or not has no ties to this server tho
velvet adder
If what moderator said is true, and the issues were truly "noted" there should be no reason to file a bug report. But I wouldn't stop anyone from still doing so either.
tardy arch
inb4 lockdown
eager basin
Someone apparently got word from the CS email that Yostar will be addressing translation concerns next week, not sure how credible the screenshot is though
eager aspen
Only time will tell
naive cobalt
well, here you have it
eager basin
I'm inclined to believe it since the latest shitstorm was quite big and it does Yostar little favor to ignore it
velvet adder
That was posted on 4chan, not really a great source
eager basin
Yup, that's why "apparently"
naive cobalt
now let's wait and see if it's true or 4chan being 4chan
velvet adder
@opal lynx sorry for doubting your datamine earlier
Do I get to file a report on the lines being worse now they will be (maybe) "fixed"?
minor robin
btw i'd like to point out this looks faked
opal lynx
I was being respectful when I explained my concerns two nights ago, but they were brushed aside for "not being in the game yet" and whatnot when I datamined those lines. I think that, for the most part, the translation team has done a rather decent job. But they've taken a lot more liberties ever since the Winter Crown event that I can't help but question some of the changes in the decision making process. I just raised concerns because it can be a prickly situation for shipping boats together in a game where you can marry said boats.
As for me, I've married both Cleveland and Helena (and many other ships!), it's of no particular concern to me, but I can imagine that there would be some people who have only married one or the other and feeling like they've been cheated out of something. I just wanted to air my concerns about it because it can elicit a defensive reaction from some people who may not particularly enjoy seeing it.
And no problem, Manuela.
velvet adder
Portland wants to fuck Indianapolis, just saying
There already are ships sailing
opal lynx
Yes, but you instantly know Portland's character right off the bat. It's quite literally the first thing she talks about when you obtain her and by extension, her entire character - I don't think that's applicable in a scenario where both Cleveland and Helena have nothing to discuss about regarding each other until this event.
velvet adder
Cleveland and helena are only shipped by the EN tl team tho
cosmic hinge
Yet wants to fuck the SKK, and that is not some mistranslation or different "interpretation" about it, you know full well she's a siscon and that's true for the CN server as well.
velvet adder
Not really, she still loves Indianapolis more
's gotta make things a little bit awkward, but it's not like that has stopped anyone from ringing either
naive cobalt
For some reason I don't believe it's feedback anymore
so please move this discussion elsewhere or cease
eager basin
Something that has bothered me for a while is that when the whole honorific fiasco was going on, one of the reasoning for Bel-chan and U-chan not happening was that them being British, they wouldn't use Japanese honorifics so they wouldn't call themselves "Bel-chan" or the plushie "U-chan". This logic was applied in a blanket to all western ships, I think a similar case is happening with "Clevelad", Cleveland herself would never imply she's a boy in any way, so I can't imagine Cleveland calling herself Clevelad, just like the TL team can't imagine Little Bel calling herself Bel-chan. I think this adds to the pile of inconsistencies already plaguing this game.
tardy arch
cause the topic has changed to something else entirely.
do you honestly see her calling herself "little cleve" at all?
opal lynx
LFire: She's quite literally called Little Cleveland in the JP version.
eager basin
I dunno I didn't use this logic as an argument, that's for the TL team to defend
opal lynx
Not even Cleveland-chan, but Little Cleveland in katakana script.
tardy arch
ik. i like clevelad though. it's a pun on her name and it's a reference to people mistaking her for a dude.
cosmic hinge
I'm sure a girl who actually gets annoyed by the SKK or anyone else teasing her about being a tomboy wouldn't be calling herself a lad either.
tardy arch
also i'm not sure how well clevelad would translate in jp/cn
eager basin
Cleveboy
hardy sluice
My biggest concern is the fact that the TL team might make more popular yuri pair into cannon in the near future, it would kind of make the oath system useless other than for stat gain.
tardy arch
well that's pretty much all it's used for besides the skin that comes with some
eager basin
Yeah I totally ringed Wales for the stat gain and the skin that came with it
crude iris
Pow doesn’t have a wedding skin tho oh wait that was sarcasm
velvet adder
@minor robin You're free to ask Intern. I wont provide the entirety of my conversation with him to you because I'm not stupid but I'd prefer if you didn't accuse me of faking a DM. Such accusations are disgusting
tardy arch
i'm not saying that's why you ringed her. i'm saying that's literally all the game does. it gives a stat gain, a skin if the ship has one, and a new line to read.
velvet adder
The problem is that the character of the ship appears to be at the whims of the TL team in the EN server, rather than the actual CN/JP lines.
tardy arch
you can't really do anything with an oathed ship. would be awesome if you could but sadly that's all it does.
hardy sluice
POW is constantly shipped with prinz eugen, so they may make the pair cannon in the future.
Hell let make enterpriseXzuikaku, terpitzXvictorious cannon.
tardy arch
sigh fr the line is probably just light teasing to the fans from the TL team perspective and a joke from hornets perspective. i highly doubt they'd make clevexhelena cannon.
velvet adder
Making fan shipping canon is never a good idea. Look what happened to Voltron
tardy arch
lol voltron was trash from the word "go"
hardy sluice
I know, I'm being sarcastic but with TL team you never know what they will do
sturdy rapids
Fact is people are thinking they're making it Canon due to previous translations. Honestly personally I could see them as just teasing the two so idrc but that's just me.
opal lynx
The best case scenario is to simply leave it as light teasing. Going any further and you'd have no point in marrying said ship.
tardy arch
ik. the shippers think it's actually coming true and the people who know about the fan ship think they might make it canon which only stirs the pot.
velvet adder
It also can be argued that personlity of said ship drives in game purchases, as well as character development, like with Helena skins. If that personality is at the whims of a TL team that has shown little care for consistency and will take many liberties with the tl, i dont blame people for feeling conflicted about it.
cosmic hinge
Well that was clearly the intention, just teasing it like with some of the PoW/Prinz swimsuit lines. Then we get Shigure, no matter how her tone is contextually, calling them lovebirds when the text just said "Eagle Union girls".
tardy arch
again both cleve and helena are eagle union so who knows, it could have been referring to those 2 in jp and cn as well.
velvet adder
Jp cn referred to helena and cleveland as "eagle union girls", in EN it became "lovebirds"
hardy sluice
The game is a waifu-collectio, so it mainly makes it money off of single men
tardy arch
ok @full hedge seriously dude, stop with the reaction spam. it's getting annoying and you're gonna get warned for it.
velvet adder
I mean you could make a case for it being a tl error, but still
opal lynx
Highly doubtful it was an error, more that it was an intentional escalation seeing as there's an explicit mention of everyone having been partnered up for a dance.
tardy arch
i really don't see this an a big issue. (yes ik others do and i don't get it) it's a joke between friends in context and light teasing from the team.
that's my last word on this dead horse
hardy sluice
They been making mistakes for months now so I doubt it, and now we're in a full circle and criticizing the quality of the TL team.
cursive wasp
Then what would be the error with just having it say eagle union girls
sturdy rapids
Might as well drop the subject since no matter how much it's discussed here it won't change anything
velvet adder
Dismissing feedback as unimportant is just as bad as people piling up on it
opal lynx
The Eagle Union girls line would actually be perfect for both parties. The insinuation that it could be referring to Helena and Cleveland for those who really want that ship to happen, or just to the nation as a whole for those who don't. It's an ideal solution that doesn't mutually exclude one idea over the other.
cursive wasp
Do people seriously argue that people would be upset if they just translated properly instead of "localizing"?
sturdy rapids
It all boils down to tl team being too free in their tl from time to time which has been brought up before
eager basin
@tardy arch people are pissed off because the TL team is paid to translate not to rewrite the script as they see fit in their headcanon.
velvet adder
Our concerns have been voiced many times before, so expect them to come again once a new event comes out and the TL team still goes full meme/shipping with azurlane characters
eager aspen
Can we just let said discussion die for once
tardy arch
so to counter that i'd say "those 2 lovebirds" doesn't specify anyone either. people just assume it's cleve and helena. for all we know it could be prinz and whales
also i'm not dismissing it. the feedback has already been taken so further discussion doesn't really do anything.
eager basin
It will not die and it will only get worse for as long as the feedback goes unaddressed
tardy arch
or until someone locks this channel down
opal lynx
The only feedback I'd like to give is for the translation team to be more forthcoming about their decisions and transparent in what they're doing.
eager basin
It'll pop up again when the TL team pulls their next prank, and if you start suppressing TL feedback altogether then that's a disaster for PR that Yostar probably doesn't want
tardy arch
it's not being suppressed. 
check #known-bugs
eager basin
Work on reading comprehension
eager aspen
Leave all the feedback you want, but just give it and thats it, agree or disagree this conversation isn't gonna go anywhere any time soon
tardy arch
if it was being suppressed then it would have been utterly denied and people would have been handed warns/mutes for further discussion about it.
also work on your word choice then
velvet adder
"Nothing is going to change about EN tl" is that the official statment from yostar?
cursive wasp
This "discussion" started because people jump in and defend the TL instead of letting the feedback stand
sturdy rapids
Just gonna summarize the whole situation for clarification for everyone.... Give me a min
eager aspen
Im not blaming anyone, just saying this isnt going anywhere and everyone should just let it die
velvet adder
Again, is that the official statement about the EN tl?
daring spruce
My feedback: The reason why I play the EN version over the JP version is, because I can't read Japanese. All I expect and want from the English version of the game, is that it's literally the same game, but then in English. But what's the point of playing EN if they aren't translating it directly. If you aren't directly translating, why translate in the first place. At that point, the "translators" might as well just make up their own story instead of looking at what the JP/CN version did.
tardy arch
no it's not. nothing has been officially said about it. but from what i've seen the TL team have the final say unless higher ups say otherwise. they can change it if they so desire. (though it's unlikely they'll do so)
eager aspen
It was worth a shot I guess, dunno what I expected
velvet adder
Good, then this discussion will stand
Sorry you're the vocal minority bitching about this, but some people do like the current translation (or just don't care)
I'm not going to go away just because you've busted out all the bullhorns and the wittiest Discord retorts
cursive plank
You guys complained about U-556 calling Bismarck Big Bro and see what we got? I mean its clear it refers to the Promise Certificate we got from the event and whats written on it, so whats the problem? Vocal minorities ruined that for me, and I am not happy still
cursive wasp
I SERIOUSLY doubt anyone would be mad about a proper translation over this
eager aspen
Stop 
sturdy rapids
Can you at least stop attacking people @velvet adder
velvet adder
So you like fanfiction?
cursive plank
I am still not happy over the wording change in the scene, so stop thinking you are the majority
daring spruce
This channel isnt for discussion btw
tardy arch
someone please put a stop to this already. where's restart when ya need him
velvet adder
Nice to see being contrary to the loudest mouths is 'attacking'
Have fun in there, it's going nowhere anyway
hardy sluice
Honestly if this keep going on, then i don't mind complaing to the team when they come to Anime Expo.
cursive plank
You know me and my friends who likes history is thoroughly disappointed by the change? How about consider whether if you are really in the majority complaining about a TL
tardy arch
tbh that's probably the best way for them to hear you. though i still doubt they'd change it even if you told them in person.
eager aspen
Let it die, let it die
velvet adder
It not my fault if the tl team went from brother to lord when sister was the actual TL
hardy sluice
Better than being ignored
cursive plank
Nor do I think sister is the better one, the actual certificate says Brother
velvet adder
Tell that to the jp and cn who made the event in the first place
cursive plank
I want the better version, not an inferior version just so we get the same thing
velvet adder
What "we" aked for was a tl true to the original, nothing more nothing less
cursive plank
Yes, and you guys ruined it for us who think the version we got is better, and doesn't want a worse version
tardy arch
who's to say this version is "bad" though? i think it's fine.
eager aspen
Better or worse is strictly Opinion
velvet adder
I cant argue with opinions sorry
cursive wasp
It's bad because it's ridiculously jarring when U-556 clearly says "aneki" but it somehow becomes lord
tardy arch
that's literally all you've been doing
velvet adder
How is wanting a faithful tl an opinion?
cursive plank
Yeah you guys ruined the one at least I wanted with your opinion, and then now is exerting the same thing on another translation
eager aspen
velvet adder
"Eagle union girls" becoming "lovebirds" and calling it out is not an opinion
cursive plank
I have no opinion on the current translation debacle but I have to say the 'brother to lord' change ruined my enjoyment of the Bismarck event hard as a history nerd, I didn't get moved as a result
crude iris
I think vanguard ships should get a little more xp
tardy arch
so you're saying it's your opinion that the bismarck event is ruined because "bad TL"
this needs to stop.
crude iris
Like a flag ship for vanguard or boost it a little because the back line gets way to much exp
cursive plank
Yes, if you wanted to see it that way, that is exactly ehat I meant
naive cobalt
@crude iris it was suggested
crude iris
Ahh my b ofc it would be
sturdy rapids
This all started because people have noticed that the EN translation has been having too much liberties in translating the game instead of going as close to script as possible, changing some of the meaning of the original script. Whether or not you defend or disagree with the translation team doesn't matter. Discussing won't change anything since the points still remain the same, some people want more accurate TL and some are satisfied with the current ones(or just dont care, personally i dont mind).
The situation is that the feedback team report said feedbacks and error to the staff and they decide what to do next. Main problem is some people don't trust the feedback team and want an official/public statement from Yostar but they chose to keep quiet regarding this. So unless we got some kind of official statement this will just keep happening but its all just the same issues and same points anyway so....
The best thing to do is once you spot a translation error, you leave your feedback here and/or report it as a bug.
cursive plank
Its a bad TL that got influenced by bad feedback imo
velvet adder
The game recognises the vanguard in the front of the vanguard as, well, the lead ship (as evidenced by at least two skills, one on Le Triomphant and one on KTKZ); it'd really be nice if that one got the extra XP for it, yeah
sturdy rapids
Either wait for an official statement or wait until the TL becomes better
tardy arch
tbh even if yostar came out and said they were listen to the feedback people still wouldn't trust it and continue to demand a change
vagrant scaffold
Hi guys, I know that we've recently upset some of our players with the localization choices, namely some masculine tones for Bismarck's event ("big brother"), names for the new Loli ships and some other things. I just want to say that we're looking into it, all the feedback is being considerate, and we're analyzing if we need to make some adjustments based on it. If you have something to say, please submit the report to Bel-bot, and do not send an email to customer support, because it's currently overfilled with other stuff, like login issues or payment issues, due to shortage of customer service workforce.
naive cobalt
velvet adder
Thats exactly what "we" needed to hear
cursive plank
No please, I don't want you guys to hear 'their' feedbacks, they don't care if they ruin other's experiences or if they are really the 'majority', please think before accepting any feedback
tardy arch
but you do realize that if you do end up changing it that you'll upset the people who liked how it was right? like i said you can't please everyone so this is a double edged sword you guys.
cursive wasp
You don't either so get off your high horse
prime moth
So your solution is leaving the things as they are now?
tardy arch
@cursive plank and you obviously don't care if you ruins others experiences either so i don't want to hear it.
cursive plank
Imo yes thats the best and fair for everyone
prime moth
@tardy arch that was to you, not to the mods
slate monolith
Personally I'm okay with the localisation for the lolis since they make sense for the factions they are from. As for Bismarck, well she was a massive ship to the point where it was a historical thing for her to be considered masculine though
tardy arch
yes. that's what the team decided to go with and no matter what they do they'll end up upsetting people.
cursive wasp
You say that but do you honest to god belive that calling them "little cleveland" would have upset people
tardy arch
you can't please everyone
remember this.
prime moth
Can't really understand how people are going to be mad at correct translations
naive cobalt
ok, so
you got official statement
all the personal bickering can be done in dms
if you disagree with someone
vagrant scaffold
@cursive wasp @cursive plank the community seems to be split by the recent events, some like the recent localization, and some don't. That's why we can't take immediate changes, because it seems to be more a matter of preference, other than right/wrong. And yes @tardy arch , it seems that whatever way we choose, there always will be someone to complain 
eager aspen
Restart could you link the card for the Vanguard xp thing I cant seem to find one
naive cobalt
can't now, lemme do it when I get home
cursive plank
Thanks, thats whay I wanted to hear, that you guys realize that there are people who loves the localization choices, negative feedbacks are easier to be heard than positives
cosmic hinge
I doubt anyone would have complained about direct translations of the lolis or with addressing of Bismarck or with the what "love bird" line originally said.
velvet adder
@slate monolith Apparently it was just her captain who referred to her as a male, as the Promise references; hence the Big Brother
I still believe that calling for a true to the source translation cannot be considered a matter of preference but I thank you for listening
lost palm
Cleavelad lena lil sandy is just another bellette shit storm. Translator did good job on little bel. But why they cant do it on another loli ship name?
tardy arch
@vagrant scaffold exactly. and honestly you guys should just go with what you got. if you feel what you put is good enough then by all means leave it as is. if you genuinely think it needs to be changed then go ahead and change it.
vale sparrow
Welp, even a youtuber like me can't please everyone like I really want.
Racer got a point here.
slate monolith
Yeah that was the historical reference that I think they were trying there
final cape
Yeah, there will always be ‘ some ‘ who like anything. You can introduce actual male ships into the game and you’ll still have people who go ‘OHHH GTRACER WE LOVE THE MALE SHIPS DONT DO ANYTHING’ but it doesn’t make it valid. A shitload of people hated the localization choices, way more than ive ever seen support it in this channel. Lmao.
velvet adder
Actually nevermind, you manchildren will never be pleased with anything but a public and complete capitulation
cursive wasp
The "you can't please everyone" angle is disingenuous because most people fine with the localisation might have been just as fine with an accurate translation
daring spruce
eager basin
@vagrant scaffold, keep in mind that this is an issue that has been snowballing for the past few months, and rewriting the script or taking liberties from the original source means you are always taking a risk, and that you can potentially turn today's happy customers into tomorrow's unhappy customers when a liberty taken strikes a nerve. Just don't let it blow up in your faces in the future because you thought you were safe.
versed saddle
Thanks for the staff feedback. Good to know you guys are looking into it.
final cape
It doesn’t, im simply saying that ‘don’t change it back don’t do anything because some people like it lol’ is stupid feedback. You can literally introduce a male ship, a trap ship. People will like it, sure. But what people? Who’s the target audience do this game? The translators and Yostar should think about that going forward
cursive plank
Why will me, who have no complain about the translation go rant somewhere? You guys ranted in a echo chamber so keep your opinion as yours jot public agreement
prime moth
Just make it an option in the settings then, one with meme translation and one with faitful translation :^)
I would like to have my events without jojo references
eager aspen
You got what you wanted, why are you still going
lost palm
No one will complain if you get the translation right. This all start because translation team take to much liberty on translation and put their own idea
final cape
If they had simply been consistent with CN and JP, NONE OF THIS WOUOD HAVE HAPPENED. The argument is a moot point
tardy arch
@cursive wasp yes if that's what they had gone with from the start. (though even then i know people would still find something wrong with and complain) but as it is now they can't please everyone.
opal lynx
Thank you for listening to the feedback, staff. It means a lot and you've done a really good job in reaching out to the community. Keep up the good work.
high dome
@prime moth the JoJo references are actually faithful
slate monolith
You do realize that sometimes a 1:1 translation means that jokes or other things can get lost in translation
cosmic hinge
But my resume, I need to plant those memes for my future NISA gig.
vale sparrow
I mean, people would likely to complain anytime, right?
final cape
Yeah, wouldn’t want to lose the jokes of ‘little helena’ that are very untranslateable from the other servers. Better go with Lena for literally no fucking reason at all
slate monolith
@cosmic hinge why do you think IFI became a thing here?
lost palm
Since launch game may have translation issue and no one complain on anything. But since bellette winter crown event translation team have been drop on quality. All this because they dont stick on faithfully adaptation
velvet adder
Resume jokes are the best thing that came out of our translation team I swear
cursive wasp
"big sister" is a concept EN speakers cant understand better change it to big brotherlord
naive cobalt
ye, so
why you still going exactly?
shy pond
Could somebody look over the U73 droprate? I just got my 5th Bisko, but I do not have U73
final cape
Imagine shitting on your employer because they wanted you to keep a faithful translation. This is the team that GTRACER is going to bat for. My poor resume
vale sparrow
Hmmm.... GTG back to do my rl job
See ya later
I hope devs doing it right
prime moth
@shy pond that's how luck works
tardy arch
@shy pond that's rng for ya bud.
velvet adder
"We" got."our" statement, just let it go now
sour monolith
Thanks for the feedback, GTRacer. That's a good sign and hopefully some improvement is done. I've seen somebody replied to my mail too.
tardy arch
why the quotations?
velvet adder
We the evil guys who complain. I really dislike this mindset
eager aspen
The question is why are you still going
versed saddle
probably because both sides are lighting it up
opal lynx
Additional feedback: Destroyer manjuus when?
lost palm
And putting commander and bride on marriage certificate is just plain stupid. Wth put their job on that. Lawyer and bride. Police and bride. Even on gay marriage there will always GROOM and BRIDE
shy pond
Well @prime moth @tardy arch If youhave a less than 3% chance of just the U73 not dropping from the builds you did it is safe to say I am raising my concerns because this would be an insane statistical anomaly
slate monolith
More like when are we going to get Meowcefur and Co. here?
eager aspen
If you really want to keep discussing this, feel free, but take it elsewhere as asked many times
tardy arch
@shy pond i got u73 before bis so i'd say it's working as intended.
cursive plank
I'd rather ask for core data shop rotations
final cape
I’m genuinely waiting with bated breath for the core data shop equips
naive cobalt
@shy pond hope this answers your question https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/403520197195071488/581139638174089227/unknown.png
slate monolith
I'm wondering when we would get the bps for our PR girls in that exchange now
lost palm
If you really want to know why people complain. See neptunia rebirth 1, rebirth 2 and rebirth 3. Fans praise rebirth 1 because its stick to original translation. Hate rebirth 2 and rebirth 3 because nisa put their own joke and not faith fully to original. This is the origin Nisa is bad localization meme
velvet adder
Suggestion to change damage numbers of normal and HE be more distinguishable, blame my color blindness but i cannot differentiate yellow and orange.
shy pond
Colorblind mode, yes please. This game would be helped a ton by it
slate monolith
I tend to confuse the damage colors too at times
naive cobalt
colourblind mode was suggested iirc, ye
slender junco
This channel fire
tardy arch
not just color blind mode but yes please make the damage numbers more distinguished. they blend in with each other too well.
slate monolith
Well if there is a way for it to work, I would try it just to have that WWII feel in a way
cursive plank
But I don't think it change much tho, they are all damages, I mean it would be better with colour blind mode but I thought it would be for things like the UI where people must read and click on
opal lynx
Oh, but some serious feedback: When my submarines automatically attack a ship, ever since the UI update, the percentage damage they deal is rather hard to make out.
slate monolith
I get the feeling that's what caused some of the major text issues I'll bet
cursive plank
But yeah on second thought I do think if a colour blind mode is implemented maybe it should be the full package
slate monolith
Nothing that a bit of tweaking can't fix I guess
velvet adder
!bugreport
agile otterBOT
Hello commander, if you'd like to report a bug please send me a direct message with !feedback and I would be happy to assist you. However, be sure to check #known-bugs to make sure you're not reporting something that is already known. You can also check the Trello boards here:
Bugs: https://trello.com/b/Hd2cMeYU/azur-lane-official-azur-lane-en-bugs
Translation Issues: https://trello.com/b/7gz5rAAi/azur-lane-official-azur-lane-en-translation-issues
velvet adder
!feedback
tardy arch
you dm the bot with the command.
velvet adder
ty
velvet adder
hmm...it said my feedback was rejected
tardy arch
then somebody rejected it. can't really do anything about it.
naive cobalt
but it said why your feedback was rejected
velvet adder
@high dome The translators literally inserted references in a reference-empty script, I'll upload screenshots the moment I come back from work.
crude iris
I got some feed back maybe someone thought of it alrdy but idk. Maybe for the vanguard ships you could do the same you do for back line. Like every second torpedo shot you show the vanguard girl or on a time duration so we can see the vanguard more often even tho they have their chibis we can buy it would be nice to see the whole thing. Or even an all out assault or maybe at the beginning if they have a passive skill or something similar to that.
tardy arch
seeing the cg every time a torp is fired would get annoying so fast. people already complain that the blackline cg is annoying.
crude iris
That’s why I gave a few options. And to counter that I know this is susgested but there should be an option to turn that stuff off. To make everyone happy
gloomy mauve
Make the dock/ship selection slider bigger or increase the distance to the right. My home button is right next to that slider so if i press a tiny bit too far to the right i go back, all ships unselected, if i go too far left i have to try to hit it again without hitting my home button.
tardy arch
you can also scroll the page by pressing on one of the ships and dragging the screen.
ya it's known. though it hasn't been reported yet.
crude iris
Damn never knew thanks @tardy arch
tardy arch
lol, np. a little surprised people didn't know that
crude iris
I’m lvl 83 and found that out rnn. Hope u get some good luck in the future 
gloomy mauve
@tardy arch if you mean the"normal" scrolling, finger from bottom to top movement i know about that, but it takes some time to scroll down ~230 ships to finally see the bottom ones, primarily in comms
tardy arch
ik. was merely offering a workaround for now. seriously though i can't find the card for this issue on the trello. if you want to report it you can.
gloomy mauve
I will thanks
analog jay
Up to RNG
Also not a question for this channel
plush sleet
i know
remote cobalt
@plush sleet its different case for me, Z36 like 0.002%
tawdry hill
please stop writting fanfiction and changing the story, thanks
eager aspen
See pins
nova totem
Yoo is this the right channel? I was talking with my friends in facebook yesterday about where azur lane receives feedback and told me to go to discord so I created one and not really used to it yet.
Anyways straight to the point, I didn't play this game for traps and lesbians. Portland already ticks me off. I found out when my friends sent me japanese and chinese translations of the texts. Uhh I don't really get the reason why prof translators would write fanfics lmao but I guess they could get away with it since the game company seems like from china lol.
I've seen ppl in chat complaining about it too lol but those guys in chat can be crazy sometimes. Also the top comment for clevelad in my server (which is avrora btw) is literally "Little Cleveland > Clevelad" lmao I dunno but it seems like a lot of ppl have similar opinions.
I hope the staff see this. Peace out.
rare jay
Staff is aware of some of the issues people are having. The first pinned message in this channel is an official response from Yostar staff
nova totem
Oh lmao took me a while to see where the pins are. At least the staff are aware. Thanks ImAToasterStrudel
velvet adder
@rare jay Is this also their official response?
rare jay
It's an extension of it,yes. But that part was more geared towards individuals who were still having questions for GT
velvet adder
so they mean some people like complete misleading translations over correct ones even though they don't know what they were defending?
shell bramble
Please don't put words in their mouth.
rare jay
Direct versus localization isn't really the argument to be had here. Simple matter is: some people like it and some don't. Staff are aware of this and will look into it as per their official response
velvet adder
I understood what direct translation and localisation are, I've been at atlus usa. Localisation is meant to convey the original scripts in a way that it doesn't lose the original meaning, in some case improve so that the story has a better narration. What I've seen so far is far from localisation, it's very personal and conflicts with many things the game has already established. And furthermore the translation team must know the consequences, not rooting on your own ideas until your managers have to jump in.
eager aspen
Staff are aware of this and will look into it as per their official response
Just wait it out
rare jay
Well regardless, as stated staff will look into it and consider all the feedback they've received regarding it (whether from here, FB, Twitter, previous emails) . No reason to drag this on further
clear heron
it's a divisive topic that leads to debate that doesn't really belong here, is the main issue.
Not that I'm particularly one side or the other, just that it prevents other people from levying other feedback when this was already highly considered.
velvet adder
I'm just giving my own feedback to the staff in charge of localisation here, seeing so many shitstorm lately that I caught wind of it on twitter even
turbid loom
Since the UI update, the amount of desyncs have become ridiculous, particularly the ones where the game "reconnects" but then will not register anything. I have no idea what happened to your servers, or why a ui update would affect their performance, but its seriously affecting the playability of the game. Obviously something needs to be done to fix the servers, but also if the game is not actually going to reconnect, then boot me back to the login screen. Furthermore, add back the option to keep the game from locking, as the phone locking seems to cause this "reconnect" issue about 70% of the time in my experience. Before this is put on my connection, this issue occurs on both wifi (across different ones too) and on my data.
eager aspen
I have absolutely experienced 0 desyncs since the UI update
turbid loom
ok, great. your experience does not discount mine.
eager aspen
Im just saying it might very well be something on your end, no need to jump me