since always 
#game-feedback
naive cobalt
tranquil wind
well i didnt even know till now thats y i never use my oxy-cola i have 3432 of them...
sturdy rapids
a lot of people just play this casually so there are a ton of simple features that people dont know. 
tranquil wind
i didnt know about crafting my crates until someone in my live stream told me months ago
tardy arch
wait you don't have to tap the food over and over again...
naive cobalt
but... game literally tells you you can craft them 
it might even be part of tutorial or beginner missions, tho I'm not 100% sure
tranquil wind
i always open then before craft option showed up
tranquil wind
who read descriptions of boxes?
ornate basin
I didnt know I could hold onto food either until someone told me months ago but then again I play mainly on JP and I cant read a majority of kanji so even if it didnt tell me I wouldn’t understand 
tranquil wind
There should be way to sort/toggle the group tags in your Dock what I mean is, I would like to toggle the tags like "Fleet 1-4" , "Studying", "In Action", "Training" from showing up, mostly the "Fleet 1-4" tag since they effect the assortment by placing them in a group at the top. I just want to view/showoff my top ships first without my fleets being top priority.
young jetty
When buying food for the dorm, show the number of resources you have. Show your oil and gems so that when you forget how much you have, you don't have to go back and forth between the main base screen and dorm
wind lagoon
There should be an option to change what loading screens show up. Instead of risking your life to play AL in public. There could be an option to remove loading screens that show.
young jetty
Loading screen option is in Trello. Upvote it
viral peak
I got you fam, no worries, don't need to alienate me, could have just said no.
ornate basin
I just dont understand why you would want it
viral peak
It could be entertaining to play around with, especially when on auto mode, if it's an issue, I can just take voice lines and throw them in a soundboard or something, no big deal.
somber pendant
Engineers are used for 'limit breaking' purposes and fodder for retrofits. Wouldn't it make sense to give Bulins and Purins a reinforcement value? Currently, their reinforcement value is 0, but I was hoping this would change to give reinforcements a bit of an edge. Ships of the same type have a 2x reinforcement value. Should Engineers be able to have a 2x reinforcement value of whatever values the reinforced ship has?
naive cobalt
It really shouldn't, because it'll just get confusing for people who don't know what they're actually used for.
And it's just a massive waste to use them this way.
somber pendant
I see.
coral ivy
By reinforce, do you mean enhance?
somber pendant
Yes, that is the word I was looking for.
coral ivy
Because why in the world would you use anything not normal rarity for enhancing... At all...?
If you had excess bulins they're literally better suited to retiring for medals than for even thinking of the idea of enhancing...
somber pendant
I haved a unwanted supply of medals, and very few ships needing bulins for service.
coral ivy
In my experience so far, only people who save medals for no apparent reason have an excess of medals, really. I've been busy the past few weeks but I normally play a lot, can farm 100+ medals a day with extreme ease and I've never had more than 200 medals saved up at any one point in AL EN so far.
somber pendant
I guess this issue applies to only my situation. I don't think many people suffer same/similar issues as to this.
coral ivy
Not to argue and stuff but it's literally nonsensical to want to use elites/super rares for enhancing
Though, having an enhance value on them considering that they are ships too, sounds logical. But really I don't think they should be used for enhancing since there's no real lack of enhance fodder in the game
sturdy rapids
^you get a billion commons when you farm anyway
naive cobalt
having an enhance value on them considering that they are ships too, sounds logical People will see that fat 0 and will have doubts about using them this way, so I won't add it. Teaching without telling directly is important as well and we don't want people thinking that's proper use of them or that you can get benefits or smth 
somber pendant
Should there be more options to aquire gems without going through the proccess of spending money?
I have been playing Azur Lane for prolonged periods of time.
I have reached a conclusion that the only way to obtain and recieve gems is by paying money in Akashi's gem shop.
I have finished campaign, and Limit-Broken every Gem-reward ship in the 'Band' section.
I am unable to identify any other options at this point leading my to questioning of whether Gems become a 'grindable' or 'renewable'resource in the game.
Options to aquire these valuable resources I have brainstormed recently today are:
-Inclusion in Monthly Sign in
-Weekly mission(s)
-Shops (Excersises)
tardy arch
there is but it's rng. sometimes urgent commissions with gems as rewards will spawn.
getting the commission is rng and getting the gem reward is rng.
somber pendant
I see.
tardy arch
also the game gives out so many free gems as is that asking for more consistently just sounds greedy.
naive cobalt
also you don't need them
somber pendant
Well, good o'l mom's credit card should do the trick. ||sarcasm||
Next suggestion/question:
sturdy rapids
You should have enough gems to buy all the necessities like dorm slots so asking for more free gems really just sounds greedy at this point. Plus they do give free gems from time to time
stray marsh
Wish we could have some sort of frontline-leader position with respective EXP-multiplier for this position. Grinding frontline ships exp is too tedious, while you get literally triple exp for 1 ship, and this position is locked for backliners-only. Frontline leader has the same risk category(if frontline dies-game over), yet doesnt have any reward atm.
tardy arch
@somber pendant that's been suggested.
i'm actually kinda surprised it's not already in the game.
somber pendant
I just want to take a moment to thank YoStar for giving so much to their fans and followers. Never before have I such troopers shown exceeding support to the fanbase.
ornate basin
that uuh sounds like a uhh personal kinda thing
formal oyster
Considering the gems are a stricly premium currency ( unlike some other games where you use them to roll characters ) they're already very generous on this side imo. We just got a faire amount of gems in last event for example.
static needle
Dont mind me im just kidding with the sarcastic guy 
I wish i have moms credit card but my mom keeps on using mine instead pogchamp
and i hate yostar for not giving me pink smug loli and making me buy cubes for winter crown 
worn hinge
If not more fully developed ships and more developed retros my wish... noooow reallu sosomething useful I miss..............>>>>>>>> Collect all button for missions <<<<<<< (suggestion)
warm wadi
that's not the event timer, seems some people (or maybe servers) got a WC related update at the wrong time
soft arch
Is it just me or are the last few patches been a lot more buggy than before? I have the impression they are rushing too much to catch up resulting in less quality control. If they want to rush content, then thats fine, but they should take the time during maintenance.
so my suggestion is general would be for the devs to take their time with maintenance
naive cobalt
I'm sure they know the reasons for these bugs
soft arch
well I mean, im fine with longer mainetance if it will result in less bugs afterwards
static needle
as long as it isn't 10 hours or 12 because its hard to camp at pvp
young jetty
Suggestion: Skill Icon change. Quick Takeoff and Assault Carrier have the same icon. One of them should be changed
median sky
So I don't know if you could ever do this but you should hide the characters that will never be able to be got again.
Such as Hyperdimension Neptunia characters and Avrora, for players who can't ever receive them. One of the most annoying and teasing things is looking at the collection and always getting teased because I can never get HDN characters again and I wasn't apart of the CBT so I won't get Avrora. If they can't be got again, then they shouldn't be there as a tease. Some new players might see them and get there hopes up.
Also it means that you can never get 100% because of the characters you can never get again.
warm wadi
collab ships don't count towards collection % and they're on a separate tab, Avrora was made available in an event for CN & JP so she's not actually unobtainable
median sky
I'm not from Canada
rare jay
CN=Chinese
median sky
Nevermind
rare jay
And by that they meant that we'll get the event for her at some point
median sky
Ok then thats good
I still find the HDN such a damn tease.
I wish I could just hide that tab altogether so it would stop reminding me of what I lost
I'm guessing characters like wasp, washington, north Carolina will be available again one day?
static needle
dont worry hdns are trash and fw event will probably rerun someday
fallen wings is the event with wash in it
hdn ships are terrible in pve and pvp and dont count towards completion percentage so u can just ignore then like the crap they are
median sky
I love hdn though.
I have like played every game
That's why I wanted them.
Originally I had them all but lost my account and well yeah lost my chance
viscid halo
Plus, this is more a waifu game, and waifu's aint trash 
but ye, collab events are very unlikely to rerun, but most normal events do get rerun eventually.
median sky
I'll look forward to FW rerun to get the characters from it I lost
static needle
considering compa and al is,still in very good terms with them making a game for al. youll probably see some kind of neptune rerun in about two years maybe pogchamp
median sky
I've never been a fan of a time limited event that only ever happens once.
So unfair to new players.
Ones that repeat are good because if you missed it last time, you can still get them someday
static needle
cn is starting to make a feature that past events can be run anytime but doesnt cover collabs just yet
viscid halo
Collabs are a special thing due to IP and copyright, they can't just suddenly say we want to run the event without the original holder of the IP agreeing. But native AL events do get rerun, so you'll always be able to collect the ships eventually.
static needle
we're still in a catch up phase with cn jp anyways, you wont want neptune soon unless u are buying cubes
median sky
I guess I'm just not a fan of collabs then.
That feature is good.
If English server gets it one day, that will help
I'm just looking forward to when Centaur comes to the english game
rare jay
Is it supposed to auto end? B/c it's just been reported as a translation error that 'automatically' is just a bad choice of word instead of a bug
minor robin
there is nothing that implies it shouldn't
Lectures can be aborted mid-way by clicking the grey button next to the bar.```
-Wiki
It is vague on both ends
Well it seems like it's only been reported as a translation issue instead of a bug as far as I can tell
formal oyster
Could we add the dorm to the music customization suggestion ? ( if it's not already there ). Would be nice to have a CNY music with a CNY room for example. Thanks~
minor robin
Dorm eh... I'll add it
sour monolith
Uhh please improve upon the patch note releases. It's been getting lazy a past few days with missing/vague information which often causes paranoia over certain things. 
ornate basin
its known
naive cobalt
@restive mountain @minor robin @rare jay it is not supposed to auto end, just text is confusing and makes it sound like it. That's why it is reported as a translation issue. What text means is that after period of 12 hours ships stop getting exp and you have to take them from lecture. Even if it is a bug - it works same way on JP and not up to us to fix
rare jay
Ah, gotcha. That's what it sounded like from the report. Thanks for the confirmation
small vine
Im glad the patch notes state the ships next to their skin names, thank you
I think it would be better for the banner to state 2.14 - 2.20, because thats when the stages disappear, but for the banner to still hang around after 2.20 until 2.27 so they can exchange for a limited period of time. Because it says 2.27 atm, some ppl assume that the stages are here til 2.27
Tldr: pls consider minor graphic text change for future reference
sturdy rapids
^legit what i assumed, now i know its only til the maintenance later. Guess I have to grind the rest of the runs the whole day 
naive cobalt
if you press on it it tells you details
I think they should've say that on the banner as well, but well, it's better than not having anything
and it's a bit late to change it now anyway
small vine
I understand that, i myself knew it ends on the 20th, but for others is the main reason. Its easy to glance at it and be like ooh plenty of time.
For future reference btw
naive cobalt
Yea, I brought it up with them as well, so they know about it
Im glad the patch notes state the ships next to their skin names, thank you Not gonna say any details for obvious reasons, but they do plan to make patch notes more detailed and full in the future 
It's like first step towards it
pallid ledge
Hi Intern-kun~ I started AL recently and I'm enjoying it so far. Only feedback I have for now is about the Crimson Echoes maintenance which ended the event on the last day where the event was still supposed to be ongoing.
I was referring to the in-game banner for the event duration because I wasn't aware critical game updates schedules are posted on twitter and discord (from twitter). And I was saving most of my cubes for the last day so.... 
naive cobalt
Yea, dates aren't being clear is a known problem and they working to solve this in the future
hollow stone
Hey intern-kun!
Just wanted to say, I love the game to bits and am glad I am olaying it. Azure Lane,nis honestly the first time I have even compared a mobile game with actual games from my old console days back when I was around five.
Crimson Echos particularly, was astonishing...and honestly heart breaking...
I wrote this to state one thing most of all, and that is how you guys managed to make this community so happy and actually healthy? Is there a stratagy that was used?
I feel like the distance from most games is that they ask too much of the player and the community yet you guys do it so flawlessly.
(Examples recently: Fallout 74, Anthem/destiny/battlefront, etc)
Just a question I wish to propose...thank you all! I can’t wait for winter crown!
naive cobalt
@bleak vale 
median sky
So the soloman exchange event stages goes tomorrow but the exchange stays until 27th.
I question why does it stay if theres no way of getting anymore J Talisman?
I'm nowhere near the 10,000 sadly but today is the last day.
I don't get why the exchange remains when you can't get anymore
naive cobalt
It is there so you can exchange points you farmed before
It would be dumb if you managed to farm enough points in time, but had no way to exchange them
Literally all the event shops worked that way before
median sky
Ok then, well theres no way I'm getting that girl then.
I guess I have to wait years for her to re appear.
I can't beat that stage 50 times today.
I can't wait until the english version gets the thing CN/Japan are working on where you can redo past events.
Waiting ages for missed characters sure is annoying.
Having paid like almost £150 or more to the game, I'm looking forward to that thing there working on.
minor robin
Only vidr has that feature, and even then for like 30mins a day
And all their ships were made permanent
proven mesa
@median sky you can build her in special. if you really really want her
median sky
Yeah I have like only 10 cubes and I've already paid like £150 towards the game, which is alot of money in my opinion.
I'm happy that the event had girls in that I didn't have though.
I got a few characters by just doing battles, such as Nachi.
feral wadi
Hey, thank you devs for being cool. I'm looking forward to all the new content that's gonna come out!
formal oyster
Would it be possible to disable the Live2d touch when browsing the event window on the main menu ? The character kinda goes crazy for nothing, and on some skins it's a little disturbing lol
static needle
you can disable it. click the top left corner and turn off the slider in the lower right
formal oyster
No I don't want to disable the Live2d completely, I just don't want the Live2d to trigger when I'm browsing in this window
static needle
sorry for the wording i mean u can turn it off there
sour shoal
Yes, but that's a lot of trouble to go to just to flip through the event window and then go back and turn L2D back on.
It's not entirely unreasonable to ask if is possible to exclude the Event Window from recognized locations on L2D skins to reduce the amount of Ship Seizures that end up happening.
trail basin
For the quick-equip saved loadout tab, it'd be nice if it could take equipment already equiped to ships. It would make swapping equipment between ships so much easier and make the quick-equip tab a lot more relevant imo.
brave sable
L2d reacts every few seconds even if u dont touch them
rare jay
@trail basin There's this. Is this what you're referring to? https://trello.com/c/vZ6O4rDA/53-improve-quick-equip
trail basin
Ah, yea
tardy arch
ok so from what i'm getting from this section here is that because someone fucked up and leaked the WC event on their end we're getting punished by not having the re-run content for future events when originally we were. so why are we getting punished for their fuck up?
rare jay
It seems like they planned to run the originals first, then later in the year, after EN has caught w/ lvl 120 and submarines, start re-runs
tardy arch
i get that. but now because someone fucked up we're not gonna get the re-run content.
rare jay
No, they weren't planning on doing re-runs in the first place right now. It was their intent to use original runs till later down the line. It wasn't caused by someone's mess up (at least if i'm reading the letter correctly)
trail basin
From my interpretation, due to the cock-up we're getting rerun content for the next event when they weren't originally planning on
brave sable
Its because someone messed up that we get rerun version
Oh and they should add rotate perspective on the dorm for more costumization
tardy arch
the letter mentions nothing about them using the original events first then re-run content. it only mentions re-run content.
"and after we've release subs shipgirls--only then were we planing to release re-run content for our events"
and yet later it says
"this means that re-run content for future events will not be included"
clear heron
It seems like they were intending to do original runs from WC onwards due to leveling concerns, but since it was leaked, it's going to be rerun content for WC specifically, then original content as planned. I'm hoping the WC content is still manageable, in that case. "EN players would enjoy a level playing field with CN & JP servers with the omittance of rerun content for Winter's Crown"
rare jay
"As such, the developer's original hope was to have the upcoming Winter's Crown event released with the omittance of re-run content."
upper mortar
Is Sirius that powerful?
clear heron
That being said, I hope future events that are run as the original still have any QOL changes to the rerun.
sturdy rapids
#gameplay-help , this is not the place to ask about how powerful ships are
tardy arch
ik. but because people got their hopes up thanks to what ALO said a while back about all the events getting the re-run content seeing in the leak and patch notes that the re-run ships wouldn't be there caused a shit storm. so they caved and put the content in. and because of that decision it has fucked over the rest of the events when the original plan was to have them use the re-run content.
upper mortar
I was addressing them saying that the rerun ships don't flow well with the current state of the game @sturdy rapids
rare jay
The original plan was to use originals in the first place. From the letter, they weren't going to use re-runs at all till later down the line
tardy arch
no matter which way you slice it. we're getting punished for their fuck ups.
ok then can you point to where in the letter they said they'd use the original versions? cause i don't see it.
sturdy rapids
Tbh thats more on the community's fault since a lot of people were causing a shit storm about it, at least imo. Also sorry noel, continue on
tardy arch
ya because of what ALO said a while back about the events getting the re-run content.
upper mortar
No problem! Sorry I didn't say much else, on my phone so I'm being bad.
rare jay
"Further down the road this year...only then were we planning to release re-run content for our events"
tardy arch
that doesn't answer my question. ever since the game launched they've been using the re-run content for the events to speed things along. so when they mentioned this i assume they're talking about actually re-running the events. it only makes sense they'd do that later in the year after they go through them the first time.
clear heron
2nd paragraph, it states that the original plan was to raise the cap and release subs before doing rerun content for 2019, so that going through content designed around the fact wouldn't cause issues, like it did with a few events earlier last year. I also feel like it's unlikely that they would decide to withhold content just on the basis of these leaks.
rare jay
"Re-run content" refers specifically to ships and what-not. As for other events, we have been getting a mix. For VDiR we had the original but DC was the re-run (submarines not withstanding). As for the change now, it's more than likely so we can get the FULL re-run and not a smaller version w/ nerfed levels like DC was
Also, just as a side not, I THINK there are only like 2 or so main events left w/ re-run versions left for the EN server.
tardy arch
i really hope i'm wrong cause for me the letter reads as such.
"our original plan was this, due to leaks it's changed, future events won't have the rerun content. ¯_(ツ)_/¯"
clear heron
In short, I believe that they always intended to not have sirius and matchless, planning on announcing only having original ships a la the original run, starting with WC. But due to leaks possibly exacerbating any sentiment that content is being withheld, they decided to include them this time.
rare jay
And w/ this time being a "very rare exception"
tardy arch
ik they probably spent a lot of time on trying to word the letter. it wasn't enough cause it reads like we're getting punished.
ya no. the "very rare exception" isn't very rare when they've done it what 3(?) times before.
rare jay
I believe they meant rare from this point on as they want to run originals now till we get caught up in lvl cap and get submarines
tardy arch
then they should have stated "from this point onward we want to use the original versions of the events and will release the reruns at a later time" instead of not eluding to it at all and pretending like they didn't use rerun content before.
that took me 5 seconds to think of and it would have cleared any confusing.
velvet adder
They're just bringing themselves unnecessary future trouble with this decision because we've been spoiled by getting the re-run versions of two major events now. The only people who lose with this decision is us because the re-run characters don't require any extra grind.
ornate basin
very rare exception being that since everyone expected it and got “disappointed” they decided to add change it last minute and add it
not very rare exception to do a rerun first
velvet adder
As long as we get the re-run characters before JP puts us further behind with their re-runs it will be fine I guess
clear heron
I'd also like to add this gives a safety bubble to some people low on cubes, coins or cash to get ships on the first run, knowing that there is indeed a rerun planned, unlike some of the "rerun" content that we've already done.
tardy arch
that's just silly.
people didn't complain about not having enough resources because of the rerun content. they complained about not having enough resources because of the frequency of the events. which doesn't seem to be slwoing down.
velvet adder
Wait until the French event gets a re-run and JP gets Richelieu and Jeanne d'Arc and EN only gets Jean Bart
Everyone will go apeshit
clear heron
It's less about the frequency and more about knowing that there is a rerun definitely planned. But I'll leave it at that since I don't want to spam the feedback further.
tardy arch
ik but people will still complain even with that knowledge. 
vivid igloo
I don't think this is best place to discuss that. Also, Grenville was supposed to be there and she was rerun ship at the cost of Matchless, which was in first version of this event.
On topic of game feedback: there is small idea, but idk if it goes under UI. Would it be possible for enhance ship tab to be greyed out when you can't enhance ship at current time (ie ship is on commission). It's slightly annoying me, when I go, put ships I want to use as enhancing material and press enhance only to find out that ship is actually on commission.
clear heron
Let me see if that's there, I'll add it if it isn't.
velvet adder
Well this is a channel for game feedback, and this is just that
vivid igloo
Thank you very much! I didn't see anything like that last time I checked trello board, but maybe someone came forward with similar idea
tardy arch
um... even before you try to enhance a ship it says "in action" over it. if you know what that means you should know you can't do anything with said ship until it returns so...
also this is the correct and only place to discuss the letter
vivid igloo
But when you swipe from ship to ship, it doesn't say that
tardy arch
no but you do get a good look at the ship list before you select the ship. it's on you for not paying attention.
clear heron
This could still qualify as a qol change, so I'm looking into it.
but it seems that a similar card was archived, possibly on the basis of incoming UI changes. I'll have to look into it further before posting it to trello.
If it can be added, I'll likely extend it to other ship elements that cannot be accessed while the ship is on special ops, such as equipment, limit break, and retrofit.
dreamy tundra
Like others have already said, i really hope that you guys change your mind on not releasing reruns. Its a low blow to anyone who was looking forward to the newer ships, and will delay the time it takes to catch up by quite a lot. Plus, when people do complain of not enough resources its almost always about the frequency of events, not that its a rerun or not.
Its also just staight up weird to me that we'll be getting new skins and events around the same time as the other servers, though once it comes to older events we have to wait for some reason. So we get the old ships, and the new ships, but not the ones stuck in the middle?
somber pendant
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rare jay
Huh?
somber pendant
Wait how did I send a blank message?
Anyways, is Yamato a possible addition to the game in the future?
ornate basin
possible yeah but we dont know any specifics
nor are we taking any suggestions for ships or skins (for future reference)
somber pendant
I mean; she is armed with:
-3x3 460mm Main Guns,
-2x3 155mm Secondry Guns
-12x2 127mm Dual Purpose Guns
-50x3 25mm AA guns
Seems like a EX boss at this point, just curious about things.
minor robin
check pins
stuck bramble
📌
tardy arch
ornate basin
or on mobile
tardy arch
ok lol. the discord mobile app is different depending if you're on ios or android. for me there's a "..." on the top right and that's how i check pins on mobile. 
tardy arch
ya for me tapping on the channel name does nothing. gotta tap that "..." to check pins. wtf discord.
somber pendant
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rugged gull
Are they gonna do something abouts guilds? Like some sort of event
rare jay
Nothing solid. They mentioned something about an event based around them (or something similar) in an interview iirc, but that's about it
rugged gull
I wonderd because there is lvl's in guilds.
somber pendant
Guild has no benificial purposes right now.
coral ivy
Reading Trello has beneficial purpose for people feel obligated to write messages in feedback channels 20 times a day without knowing the feedback they're giving might already be listed and they can simply upvote it.
somber pendant
Trello?
somber pendant
Oh
unreal oasis
Please let me collect rewards containing Oil while being at hardcap. It's not like I am going to use that overflowing Oil for anything anyways
naive cobalt
that is exactly what hard cap is tho
unreal oasis
Maybe better wording: Let me forfeit the oil that would break over hardcap
tardy arch
just buy dorm food
naive cobalt
So you mean - if you doing missions/getting rewards - oil would just disappear while other rewards remain?
somber pendant
Well what am I gonna do with 13K (5000) fodder?
naive cobalt
It's probably intentional, but I see no reason not to add it
naive cobalt
what
somber pendant
How do sell food? I got too much to spend.
naive cobalt
you don't
unreal oasis
@naive cobalt yes. but i guess i'll stick to filling up dorm supplies for now
somber pendant
Oil overflows daily, food supply never drops, running +1000 oil commiosion 24/7
minor robin
don't see how forfeiting it is in anyway beneficial
naive cobalt
game prevents you from doing missions if you at hard cap
minor robin
at least the oil is being used when converting to dorm food
somber pendant
Is Rainbow OxyTorp Aux gonna be in the CD exchange after refresh?
naive cobalt
if you don't care about oil but want other rewards
#gameplay-help if you have questions about the game and how it works
somber pendant
Oops, my bad.
tardy arch
yes the oxytorp stays. it'll stay until you buy it.
and yes ask in help for those kinds of questions.
somber pendant
||skiddadles away into help section
naive cobalt
@tardy arch ya no. the "very rare exception" isn't very rare when they've done it what 3(?) times before That is... actually not true at all
Z-Force not a rerun (it doesn't even have a rerun version iirc?)
VDiR wasn't a rerun
FW is a weird event, from rerun standpoint, because it's the first JP got it as well
Nep-event is obviously not a rerun
Chessboard was "kinda yes, but not really" because there were no subs and they had to nerf event for us
Crimson Echoes is brand new event
So the best you have are iffy FW and DC. And I'm 90% sure that DC is literally the reason for their decision not to do reruns, because "no subs and level break" were the changes they had to do to it as well as reasons they listed in the letter for not doing reruns. Maybe it could've been worded better, but that's it.
About ALO saying that we'll be getting rerun content - you also need to understand that the company is not actually run by GT + 5 interns, there're a lot of people and back-and-forth between all of them + original devs and publisher teams. It was probably just really bad case of miscommunication between teams. If anything - I'm glad players weren't punished for this miscommunication by not getting Sirius and Matchless and last minute changes were made 
tardy arch
ik. i was mainly saying that them adding in rerun content isn't a "very rare exception" when they've done it before.
and yes ik that communication between the EN team and the CN team isn't the best. most people don't know that and so they take ALO's word on things. so him saying that all the events would get rerun content got peoples expectations up and was honestly a big mistake on his part.
naive cobalt
I... don't believe he said all events would get rerun content
he specifically mentioned "this time" and "WC"
tardy arch
someone posted the image in general yesterday. i don't remember if he said "all" or not tho.
naive cobalt
and "this time" heavily implies there're times when it's not "this time" and won't get a rerun
I know, it was one of those 2 messages https://i.imgur.com/iztYEwb.png
tardy arch
ya the bottom one.
i think he's referring to wc? i can't remember any big event in january.
wait nvm we did have CE.
tardy arch
kinda wish he specified but oh well.
naive cobalt
anyway, I get what you talking about, but mistakes happen
and instead of just ignoring them - they came out and admitted it, stating how it'll be in the future
so it's not "players are being punished for their mistake"
and more like "now players have a clear understanding of what the plan was and how it'll be in the future"
but I do agree they should've worded some things better
tardy arch
that's what i'm hoping for. definitely them adding in the line "from this point onward we want to use the original versions of the events and will release the reruns at a later time" or something akin to that would have been way better.
true wave
Is that not exactly what they said in the message though? I don't understand why everyone is reading it as if we're being punished or having stuff taken away, when the message says very clearly that it was always the intention that first run events would not include rerun content, and that this mishap hasn't changed that, following WC, events will not include rerun content and they'll release rerun content when they're ready.
static needle
Gist of the letter: 1. We are supposed to get original runs not re runs 2. We`ll get lvl 110 with w 11 with submarines first then lvl 120. 3. Until 120 and subs are here no re runs according to the og plan 4. Wc was supposed to be OG(even though they put grenville there) but leaks and overexpectations happened so it will be implemented this time only. 5. Next big events will have no re runs according to OG plan. Simply speaking no one got or gets punished. We follow OG plan as it is supposed to be.
sudden aurora
Sorry to drop in, new to the discord, but I got to ask. The fact the last several events I saw so far were re-runs is that the reason they seem to be so overleveled for me, a new player, to do? Because most of the time I don't even attempt the event unless I can find a way to slow grind the ships I want on time. Like some of these event bosses are level 60, 70, 80 but feel like level 100 in terms of difficulty. Like I don't understand how events are supposed to work as I've only been playing roughly a month?
Also I would like to suggest a sort by name feature for the dock it would make managing all my girls much easier.
true wave
Nope, only two events previously included rerun content, at least as far as I can remember, level 80 is just the standard level for the final bosses
Ah, I should be more specific, level 80 is the standard average level for the final boss of the Hardmode event maps, normal mode is around 60-70 usually, and in my experience aren't that tough, but for a brand new player they would be pretty hard to manage if they didn't grind like crazy all day every day from the moment they started
naive cobalt
Well, it's not really reasonable to expect all event maps be level 20-30
It may sound bit aggressive, but new players aren't exactly expected to just jump into event and clear it with no problems. While new player experience is certainly important, events are mostly content for players who already cleared things like story mode, at least to some degree and have reasonably leveled ships. Normal mode in events is around levels 30-60, while hard mode goes even harder up to levels 90-100. New players who can't clear those still usually have daily missions to get some amount of points and buy some amount of stuff from event shops.
Exceptions being mini-events like Graf Spee and Ryuujou, but Spee is not that difficult (and actually a lot of veteran players were dissatisfied with it precisely because of it) and with Ryuujou you still can get points from low level maps, it'll just take longer to get necessary amount.
sudden aurora
Ryuujou wasn't so bad she was a loli so I didn't even bother. I skipped Graf Spee I couldn't do it with what I had. I did get most of what I wanted from Lunar... I came in on the tail end of Crimson so I didn't have time to even bother with it I'll wait patiently for Amagi. Looking forward to Winter I got a plan that I think will work.
rocky monolith
My suggestion would be for Azur Lane to follow other Gacha games and give a monthly schedule in advance, possible even longer, with specific dates and versions. It would also help things like recently be avoided cause we'll know ahead of time what we're getting and what Azur will give us as well. Or just to at least give more solid than 'Sometime in the first half of this year' Cause I feel it works better for other Gacha games when they do so.
true wave
Yeah, I totally agree with that, ever since I started playing CN more than a year ago and transitioned to EN when it launched, I've always found it really frustrating at times that we don't know an event is coming until a week or so in advance, so I'm always nervous to spend resources in case next week is an event with a girl I've been looking forward to
formal hollow
will there be a way in the future to keep the EN fan art out of our game? I personally play this game for Japanese Art work and being forced to see this trash fan art everytime i have a load screen (which is alot) is hella off putting
ornate basin
you trolling?
formal hollow
no. i hate the EN art with a passion
ornate basin
that was so fucking rude man lol
true wave
The Kaga(BB) and Amagi one is beautiful, I'm glad it's in the game
naive cobalt
no, there won't be such function
ornate basin
you can keep your opinions to yourself with that attitude
anyways theres a trello for a suggestion about choosing your loading screens for your personal preference client side
formal hollow
so if i play EN im forced to see EN art ? cause this clearly won't be the only time there is an art contest to make artists feel special
ornate basin
🤦
naive cobalt
Anyway, let's not go personal.
formal hollow
ah choosing load screens would be a great idea!
sudden aurora
Is it really that big of a deal? I see the loading screen art or maybe one long second and then I transition to whatever is being loaded. Honestly alot of it is kinda good.
That's alot of arrows. Lmao
ornate basin
im all for speaking your suggestions but the rude comments to artists who spent their time and effort into making a loading screen for the game is very unnecessary
formal hollow
people spend alot more time than you think in load screens
naive cobalt
you can vote for the suggestion here https://trello.com/c/l1WdLybr/416-disable-or-allow-players-to-select-loading-screens
sudden aurora
Not me. My phone seems to load content fast.
Alot of times I don't even realize I was in one unless I'm looking at my phone.
formal hollow
I'm sorry if i offended you Kawaakari I just think JP artists are more talented than the work i have seen produced from the EN community.
well this doesn't belong in this chat I asked my question and got a reply
bye
naive cobalt
Anyway, I'm pretty sure we found compromise solution
So let's not start pointless debates 
formal hollow
yeah thanks restart
ornate basin
the link restart sent is what I mentioned, which is a very helpful feature and I hope many more people can vote for it
static needle
Thats a dumb opinion. Alot of en artists are good and better than some jp illust. Some of them even move to japan because theyre more qualified than others. Youre in en buddy not jp
sudden aurora
Oh goddess not this again...
drifting slate
a lot of the fan art loading screens aren't even by JP artists in the non EN versions of the game anyways
naive cobalt
stop
drifting slate
stuck bramble
Some people just want to get danned
quick warren
I suppose this is as good a place as any to say "I approve of the way the staff is handling the NA/English release of the game and hope they keep doing what they have been doing !"
naive cobalt
solar field
So why exactly does the banner for this Solomon ranger mini event say that it lasts until the 27th when it actually only lasts until the 20th. The banner is misleading I thought and so did the other people I play with that we had 2 weeks to grind the 10000 event medals or whatever it's called and I'm sitting at 5000 now cause I was pacing myself only to find out tonight that the event is ending in a couple hours and I physically cannot grind the level 50 times in that amount of time
quick warren
errr..
solar field
quick warren
Not to be mean, but it always stated the length of the event on the page for it where you exchange the points, I dont know how they could have made it more obvious
ornate basin
event exchange is the banner
naive cobalt
if you press it it goes to event exchange page and that one is till 27th
and specifies that stages are available till 20th
clear heron
Though I think a case could be made to change that, since it's the most visible, it did outline the date differences elsewhere.
solar field
I know it's my bad for not reading the fine print. I've only got so long to play this game every day as I try to juggle this and puzzle and dragons
quick warren
could be worse, I am somehow still trying to play both EN and JP versions of AL >.>
clear heron
I'll see if it could be changed so that the banner date matches the map rather than exchange since that tends to be people's priority, but no promises.
solar field
That was what I was getting at earlier sorry if I didn't make that clear enough I'm just dissapointed I cant get the ship now as shes limited to this event and it's basically done
clear heron
knotty belfry
@solar field There was also the option to pull her in special build, although I personally wouldn't do that, especially with the new event only hours away.
clear heron
Voting for it will help enhance visibility, so if you'd like you can do so.
sturdy rapids
Adjust Banner dates to correspond to map end dates rather than exchange end dates, as it is the most visible and the map end date tends to be the most pertinent knowledge.
Can this suggestion be edited to "show both the map and shop exchange duration"
solar field
I did try to pull her from there a few times when I finally realized that the event ended tonight but I'm pretty low on cubes and coins and like you said the new big event starts tomorrow. Also thanks for answering and helping me with this everyone. I probably spend an unhealthy amount of money on this game but I dont feel too bad about it cause the devs and playerbase are so awesome thanks again.
clear heron
Oh, I'll go ahead and do that, then.
sturdy rapids
no reason to omit one just to show the other. Just show both
Now no one can complain
clear heron
Should be updated, and hopefully taken into consideration.
vapid minnow
It would be nice in the future if events were designed in a more engaging and fun way instead of lazy, painfully dull objectives like "run the same map 500 times in a row", so people who don't play every single day and have other things to do than stare at their phones for hours on end also have a chance at completing them.
minor robin
@knotty belfry not appreciated.
And to respond to your comment, if you were to think about it objectively, aren't all events just "grind hardest level you can do till you get what you want?"
And we are already blessed with the autobattle system so we don't actually have to stare at our phones
You can just leave it running and do something else
If that's not your cup of tea, then well I'm sorry. But your feedback doesn't exactly present us with a solution either
I can't think of any mobile game where a majority of events don't involve "grinding the same hard level over and over"
sturdy rapids
we had that one event where we filled up paintings, roll dice, and play a simple arcade game. That was a nice change
clear heron
To twist this into a positive bent, I think the Lunar New Year's event and the Flower Festival offered some variety to events, so possibly a request for more of those.
minor robin
I'm sure there are alternatives, but they're hard to come by or implement for major events
If it's improving mini events sure, those are easy, but for the grind heavy major events... Yeah a bit harder
clear heron
Understandable, considering the closest we had was the Fallen wings mines minigame
minor robin
I can think of a few things, but they're such major departures to AL gameplay it simply may not work
vapid minnow
Sorry for the negativity, feeling a bit salty over missing the ship due to time constraints but yes, essentially a request for the more involved events we've had lately, which have been fun!
minor robin
Event pacing is a much bigger can of worms
But yeah we've been told not to accept feedback on pacing so yeah 
latent storm
I have a bit of feedback on banners... Could the banners give the length of time the event stages are available, rather than how long the exchange is open?
sturdy rapids
minor robin
About 10-20 messages above fam
sturdy rapids
vote for it, let it be known 
a lot of people are repeating the same suggestions from time to time but the trello only has like 1 or 2 votes. Please vote if its already been added to trello
visual storm
"Both the map and exchange end dates". I understood the latter but former? What you mean the map?
clear heron
the event stages, sorry.
latent storm
Event stages (and more importantly period to collect event currency) is only until tonight, while the exchange is open until the 27th. The banner just says the 27th, which gives the misleading impression that the event stages are open until then too
Which is how the Divergent Chessboard event had it, the banner there had the time the event stages were available through, with the shop just staying open a week after
visual storm
Ohhhh ok ok I got it now. That is for the one you can see in the main menu right right right. I was questioning "What is banner again?"
craggy tinsel
Make it happens pls
naive cobalt
no
craggy tinsel
naive cobalt
we don't take suggestions for skins
ornate basin
lmao
knotty belfry
I get that's meant to be 2b, but that looks horrid. Like a pirate who couldn't decide where to put the eye patch.
normal vine
@craggy tinsel is that from a JP collab? Or just a fan design?
naive cobalt
just fan art
craggy tinsel
@normal vine just fan art ,I found on Reddit.
unique estuary
Is it possible for devs to display moods for anyone in formation?
naive cobalt
it is displayed when it's lower than normal or close to it
so when it's not displayed - it is normal, you don't really need to see it
naive cobalt
it was suggested, yes
unique estuary
Thatd be nice to have
craggy tinsel
You can put in 2nd floor of dorm to see actual number of mood
unique estuary
I knew that but im still on 3-2
unique estuary
I would rather spend it on skins
My last suggestion is sorting the fleets in the docks by fleet number instead of having them all mixed together.
knotty belfry
@unique estuary This was given to me a while back, maybe you'll find it useful given how free gems don't come around too often.
?algems
turbid gazelleBOT
unique estuary
That is useful
heady wraith
Ok, people still thinking how Rodney Retrofit will be.
And i have some suggestion for new Rodney Retrofit's Skill. Perhaps if the dev would mind to read it, i'll appreciate that
-
"Big Seven"
Still as usualy Big 7 barrage, but increasing base and max chance by 10% (So 50% chance in max) -
"Perhaps Miss?"
Fire a pair (yes, a pair) of oxygen torpedoes every 30 seconds (15 seconds max). Power based from skill level and vanguard torpedo stat.
Expectation : Those pair of torpedoes will aim like normal BB torp, spread wide enough, and deal 2500 damage max for each torpedo vs DD lv. 100 in PvP.
Trivia : Rodney was the only Battleship in WW2 firing her torpedo into another Battleship in battle. Guess it? Yep, Bismarck. And since torpedo battle in battleship is very, very rare, it was very unique history that Rodney had. More unique than how to sunk carrier using battleship (Scharnhorst).
And also Nelson-class was the first warship having oxygen torpedoes (Even Japanese Oxygen Torpedoes actually were inspired by them). And also the only non-Japan ship and Battleship having oxygen torpedoes.
How about it? Is it good? Is it would be meta changer or not?
naive cobalt
we not taking suggestions on retrofits
heady wraith
@naive cobalt Maybe where the place i can suggest something like that?
Or maybe i'll use email?
naive cobalt
no, decision not to take those was discussed with the game staff
minor robin
The EN game staff
normal vine
@heady wraith you can try azurlane_staff on twitter, but that's it, I think
minor robin
The JP Twitter
heady wraith
@Restart you mean i totally can't?
mental osprey
In order to spice up guilds and possibly help newer AL players (in a guild), I want to suggest some kind of "guild bingo" or "guild lottery". Guild members could put items (e.g. boxes, eq blueptints... or even a shipfu) into some kind of "bingo price pool" that would be raffled off to other guild members within a "monthly guild bingo" (or with whatever other frequency than monthly). -I am only in a small guild with few members but even so, some of us are "far ahead" e.g. treating a couple of purple box as utter garbage whereas others desperately try to get just one of them; the "guild bingo" could be implemented as simple RNG lotterery among members, or ofc even consist of some sort of minigame (maybe like the momopoly game we had recently).
minor robin
So they will not be taking suggestions for retrofits, skins, equipment or events
naive cobalt
not for EN staff and I highly doubt JP would listen as well, but hey, you can try
heady wraith
Ah see, although i totally can't speak Japan. But perhaps i'll try it.
Thank you for your advice
naive cobalt
@mental osprey Any type of trading or gifting system (which this is, just indirect one) is easily abuseable.
mental osprey
@naive cobalt I agree "in theory", but thought that certain limitations to the bingo system would take care of abuse possibilities (like 1 bingo/month with a cap on stuff that could be gained), or more generally, keep it "civil".
naive cobalt
if you have to reduce it so much so it can't be abused - is there any benefit in having in that case?
mental osprey
Less moaning of some of our guild members 
Anyway, it was just a suggestion.
velvet adder
I haven't checked but apparently we got all the character voice updates that JP/CN/KR got with today's update.
May I ask why this stuff sometimes is pointed out in the EN patch notes, while others isn't. Concord also received a stealth voice update with no info back in December.
They really need to step up their game with patch info imo.
naive cobalt
they working on it
velvet adder
It's no big deal, but it helps avoid confusion and people asking questions is all.
jagged timber
Is it a mistake that grenville is not in the event store and got put in the cube pull?
naive cobalt
most likely not
considering previous twitter posts and news - that was the intention from the beginning
velvet adder
I'd appreciate it if the in-game banners were clearer and less misleading. Please don't say that an event ends on the 27th when it actually ends on the 20th. No one cares about when the exchange shop ends. And please don't say an event ends on some day when it actually ends within the very first hour of the day when maintenance drops. The game schedule is already confusing enough for people playing outside of its base time zone to keep track of the time of daily resets without having to keep track of arbitrary event end times.
naive cobalt
it's known
velvet adder
It's known, but it keeps getting repeated. I missed Amagi because I believed I would be able to wake up on the 21st and do my pulls. Now I missed Ryuujou because I believed I had until the 27th to farm her points. I love this game and I've been doing all the events diligently since the very beginning, so it's very frustrating to miss on content like this because of this kind of miscommunication.
velvet bane
Ww2 it was his majesty not her queen was not in power then
spring pecan
ok tnx
median sky
Quick question about the new update.
Can you get any of the new ships in the event stages?
I believe you could get some in some past ones.
Just wondered about this event.
sour pier
Crimson axis?
true wave
Yes. Duke drops from the boss of the final stage of both normal and hardmode, to name the most notable. You can check the event's page on the wiki to see where all of the event ships can be acquired from.
median sky
Thanks.
I have run out of cubes at the moment and just wanted to know if there was another way to get some of the new characters, even if it was hard grinding.
true wave
Regarding the Belfast image, she and Avrora are almost certainly referring to Queen Elizabeth, the ship, not the monarchy of England, which QE the ship may actually be in AL. The actual ruler during WW2 and the war itself hardly have any relevance to AL outside of ship backstories.
normal vine
QE (the ship) is named after Queen Elizabeth I (1533-1603), not Queen Elizabeth II
QEII was crowned in 1953, she was "just" a Princess during the war
real mountain
Why is the timer to unlock new stages so long this time, I'm pretty sure previous events unlocked several hours earlier. Can we please not further discriminate non-american TZs, it's bad enough as it is.
minor robin
it's always been this long?
real mountain
I mean I'm not 100% sure but I think I remember starting next stages in afternoon my local time for previous events, this is gonna be late evening
Why is it even a thing.
true wave
Events usually work two ways, either all event stages are accessible immediately, or half of the event is locked until roughly 24 hours after the event starts. It's always been this way.
heady grail
The event banners could be more clear, this one gives the message that the event would last until the 27th.
I know the complete info is available in the games notifications but one could read this and don't feel the need to check further
toxic basalt
This is quite a weird translation. Wish they used honorifics or just Little Bel instead.
minor robin
As "Belchan" is literally called "Small Belfast" in Chinese, and -chan is an endearing honorific, we decided to take the -ette suffix and attach it to the Bel part of Belfast's name
The current stance is no honorifics
@heady grail https://trello.com/c/L2XYaak6/450-banner-dates
it's been suggested, do check the trello page pinned before suggesting anything
toxic basalt
It's weird when Portland is already using honorifics
true wave
They can't exactly change the spoken Japanese dialogue
ornate basin
lmao
true wave
What's up with the inconsistency of plane names? All, or most, of the IJN planes are given their full designations, while the D4Y Suisei is just Comet and I just noticed that the Blackburn Firebrand and Fairey Firefly are named Torch and Glowworm respectively.
clear heron
Known issues, Comet inconsistency especially.
true wave
Guess I missed it in the Trello, then
solemn fjord
The current stance is no honorifics
literally why? I'm pretty sure there're multiple times ships call commander things like "sir" among other. As somebody also mentioned even portland uses prefix "chan". What's with this inconsistency? It feels like a silly gimmick one of the translators came up with on the spot and thought it would be a cool idea to add in the game. Unsurprisingly, it's not cool in the slightest. I won't evne mention how somebody decided to completely change Scharnhorst's character by rewriting her event lines instead of directly translating them like a normal person because that was just low. Hell, your own bot was called "belfast-chan" before you realized how inconsistent it makes you look
clear heron
Those are going to be fixed
tranquil wind
What!? so the event for Solomen Ranger wasnt 2/14-2/27?
clear heron
The audio cannot, but this is the text localization direction.
solemn fjord
So they're doing it literally "just because"
normal vine
@minor robin I think to remember that the second stage unlocked with midnight PST for previous events
solemn fjord
I see no reason to diverge so harshly from what was already established on JP server, on which EN is based on after all. This entire thing feels like a stupid gimmick because somebody wanted to be funny, no offense.
rare jay
@solemn fjord The game is translated for the English language and the English language does not contain those honorifics so there is a reason behind it
solemn fjord
What is "sir" "mr" "mrs" and other?
clear heron
When an equivalent is necessary/ can be substituted, it tends to happen, such as Yamashiro's use of milord.
minor robin
@tranquil wind no it was not
solemn fjord
But why is such a stance currently in place and why the sudden change? And what about Scharnhorst's lines?
velvet adder
I understand and agree with the stance on no honorifics, but "Belette" honestly sounds like a very poor attempt at a joke following the "Bowsette" and co. meme. I highly second the motion to rename her to "Little Bel".
minor robin
It was not sudden
clear heron
People's complaints on the banner dates have been noted though, as per this card. https://trello.com/c/L2XYaak6/450-banner-dates
minor robin
Unicorn's lines were changed to be more English
tranquil wind
@minor robin mine says otherwise
tranquil wind
well i hardly open the event tab i only read the event banner which give one set of info
clear heron
If you feel the banner is an issue, vote the card so that devs can see it's an issue
tranquil wind
i was lax about it because i thought i had another week
solemn fjord
I made an attempt at searching for the lines that were changed in Unicorn's case but the wiki is abysmal for things like this so i guess there's that. Regardless, There's a difference between changing a couple lines and renaming the character in a way that goes against already established conceptions among the fanbase. And while it's impossible for me to gain data that could back up this claim of mine, I'm pretty sure that nobody (as in, anybody who cares enough about the game to know what was Bel-chan's name in JP) actually feels like the game needs to be "more english". In fact, most of us would very much prefer if you didn't make it so.
And honestly Belette sounds stupid but that's besides the point
minor robin
Belchan isn't her Chinese name either
solemn fjord
We're not based on CN
minor robin
Does that mean we should be following Japanese honourifics though?
solemn fjord
Not in every way, sure, many things will be lost in translation by default. "chan" is not one of those things
minor robin
Belfast (and the mini) are English ships, so why would she have chan especially in an English server anyways
solemn fjord
Everybody who had any contact with Japanese culture and language for more than 10 minutes knows what prefix "chan" means.
clear heron
Chan was replaced with ette since it is a diminutive that comes up in English, but as she hasn't been released proper, it's still possible that it may be adjusted. But I wouldn't wager on it being reverted to chan.
solemn fjord
Oh, see, now you're making an argument based on ship's nationality, now we're going somewhere with this discussion.
minor robin
And while it may seem absurd to say this, there are quite a substantial amount of people who play this game who dont even understand Japanese
Sure belette sounds weird I agree, but the furthest I go is lil' bel
velvet adder
"Little Bel" is perfectly fine, there's no need to get fancy with it.
true wave
I'd vote for something like Little Bel, too
But honestly primarily because the Bowsette meme has ruined -ette for me
minor robin
There is simply 0 reason to change it to belchan just to cater to some people who prefer Japanese unfortunately. This is still an English localisation
If you prefer it however, then well rings exist
The scharnhorst one is a different story however, that I understand
sonic jackal
Events shouldn't have the exchange date range plastered on the main menu banner and in huge text on the event screen. It should say the actual dates of the event and then in small text that the exchange lasts a week longer, not the other way around.
Actually kind of miffed at the graphic design for that.
jade surge
Bowsette ruined -ette for literally the entire history of humanity. I think lil bel is fine but it doesnt have that ring to it
solemn fjord
There was simply 0 reason to change it from "Bel-chan" to "Belette" just to cater to some miniscule percentage of people who don't understand what "chan" means. This game is still very Japanese/overall east Asian in it's presentation .
clear heron
Before this get out of hand, since it seems that this is garnering a lot of attention, this has been noted by the translators, who should be forwarding concerns to the editors/publishers. Hopefully it is taken into consideration, but that is all that can be done at the moment.
minor robin
We've already shared with you what is the stance of the translation team, don't hope for much.
clear heron
In regards to the banner though, https://trello.com/c/L2XYaak6/450-banner-dates
sonic jackal
good to see that noted. I was 2 runs of sp3 away from final exchange and wasn't rushing for it, really caught me off guard when I was kicked out the stage for maintenance.
solemn fjord
I'm aware of that, but still, as this is a feedback channel, I'm simply presenting my point of view. To me, and many other this decision, or as you call it, "stance" is simply tad weird, off-putting even.
jade surge
Yes the game is very east asian, however its difficult to find an english equivalent to chan since there is none. Sir and other honorifics can somewhat directly translate but seeing as how this isnt IJN-only kancolle, it makes no sense for portland to be screaming "indy chan" or whatever instace youre citing. The closest is "lil" or maybe even "lil miss", but the latter is usually only when someone alot older than the girl is speaking to them
And once we figure out a good solution to chan then we can have portland screaming that instead
solemn fjord
Or we can leave things with Portland as they are because changing it has no real purpose?
true wave
Chan just has too broad a use for any consistent equivalent, but seriously the lack of honorifics in text isn't hurting the game or anyone playing it anymore than leaving it in would benefit the game or any players.
jade surge
I mean we can but then people will cry "inconcsistency" and want them to be the same in all cases
Maybe we can add some backstory that portland observed some of the sakura ships saying chan and then adopted it
solemn fjord
Just as there was no actual purpose to change bel-chans name, except making the game... i don't know, more appealing perhaps is a good word to use in this case. More appealing to the "western" audience. Which is a mutt point because any western audience who would be able to find out about this game has enough knowledge about Japanese language that things like "chan" in names doesn't startle them in any way
@true wave Then why change it in the first place? If there's no difference, according to you at least, between having and not having honorifics, why bother changing it from already established version (with honorifics) to a new one (without honorifics). It it doesn't matter, why even bother?
minor robin
The discussion is over.
Flyflu already said above the translators have noted it.
Whether they will implement any changes or not, is an entirely different story.
We've also told you their current stance for your benefit.
jade surge
I mean we can go to #al-lore and then figure out lore based reason as to why they call her belchan instead of little belfast and then once they make a choice we can then fix that part of the lore
minor robin
At the end of the day, whatever feedback you give is still subject to dev approval anyways.
tardy arch
eh i prefer bel-chan. belette sounds way to weird. if they do change her name i really hope it's something other than belette.
minor robin
That I agree ^
tardy arch
mainly cause it reminds of the weird af bowsette shit from a while ago
jade surge
We need a one syllable term that may or may not start with a "b" that accurately conveys the idea of "chan" and then add it to the end of bel
true wave
Belbae
tardy arch
lol
jade surge
Ehhhh i think thats big belfasts name
true wave
I thought Belfast's name was Belfap
jade surge
Yeah but bae sounds lolicon when you apply it to a loli
half dirge
so since I'm lazy to read through the chat log, has anyone suggest the translation change on "Torch" and "Glowworm" yet?
jade surge
Yes they have
true wave
Yes
tardy arch
lol what?
clear heron
minor robin
tardy arch
ah ok.
half dirge
well ok then, I'll be here complimenting your superb translation on gear skins descriptions
jade surge
well since shes an itty bitty belfast, what about belbit?
true wave
I think that's too abuseable
jade surge
True
half dirge
just keep it as bel-chan 😐
minor robin
Actually, that was the idea behind the naming of Belette
half dirge
then where's the crown
knotty belfry
Has it been suggested to have an indicator on a ship's dock profile if they are capable of a secretary mission? I ask because I'd like to point out that Sirius has a mission which is not listed in the patch notes in-game or on the networking sites like what has happened previously, I only found out through wanting watch the Winter's Crown scenes again. Perhaps this occasion was due to prior complications with this event, but I feel being aware of these missions existing across the board may serve some people well.
clear heron
While suggestions for alternatives are okay, please keep it reasonable and know that it might not be actually taken.
jade surge
Yeah but ette is a problem cuz of the meme, if that meme never existed, we wouldnt be talking right now
minor robin
As "Belchan" is literally called "Small Belfast" in Chinese, and -chan is an endearing honorific, we decided to take the -ette suffix and attach it to the Bel part of Belfast's name
tl;dr: yes, Belette is what her name should be ```@knotty belfry you can literally check in collection
half dirge
you actually can check what ships have secretary missions in the collection
true wave
Wait what, I never knew that
clear heron
They should also be more on top of announcing secretary missions in the future patch notes.
half dirge
Collection > Memories > Scroll down to see
true wave
Oh, huh
jade surge
Also ette is not really used in english(at least in the US) to refer to little girls
half dirge
I'm just sad that Tirpitz won't be getting her questline till the event rerun T.T
tardy arch
even without the bowsette meme the name just sounds weird. and no -ette is not used normally in english when referring to someone like belchan.
jade surge
Should we move the belchan-belette debate somewhere else so that we dont clutter the feedback? If so then what channel?
minor robin
Ette is french btw
clear heron
Its used in France, and the English language has a lot of derivatives from french, omelet is a sort of mutation of that, IIRC.
But yes, this is going off tangent. My bad.
jade surge
Well in US we use ette for college and highschool drill teams like rangerettes
tardy arch
honestly if they change her name they should just give her a new one entirely. instead of trying to find an equivalent in english.
jade surge
Belbudd? Cuz shes just a lil flower budd? And belfast is the flower?
tardy arch
i'd rather her have a new name then a weird frankensteins monster of a name.
jade surge
I dont think the english language was prepared for belchan
half dirge
I think Japanese media have permeated enough in western popular culture that even using Bel-chan is still recognizable
jade surge
Well yes but then we need a reason why royal navy ships are calling one of their own "chan" in ww2
half dirge
I think it's more like what's the general view about this game, from my perspective, I recognize a lot of people just say this game is anime-esque or anime art style in general so they just assume it's from Japan and make a quick brain short cut that using suffixes such as "-chan" is iconic in their culture
tardy arch
k so side note but: the devs do know who's playing their game right? just about everyone who plays this game knows what -chan means. so why are they considering changing it?
half dirge
translation to make it fit in context is one thing, to make it quick and understandable to the listener/reader is also important
minor robin
The stance of the translation team is to avoid Japanese honourifics
That's the given reason why
stable violet
Because you're writing this game in English, and -chan isn't English 
tardy arch
that's really dumb tbh.
minor robin
As for why the have that stance, I do not know
jade surge
So here is the situation: we have an easy solution to the translation, but a hard solution for the lore; or we have a hard solution for the translation and an easy solution for the lore.
minor robin
Which is why, almost anything discussion here is pretty pointless
half dirge
I feel people is more stumped on Belette and how it just doesn't immediately clicks or they can just be like me and are fixated on the wiki/JP translation of bel-chan
ornate basin
@solemn fjord we’re based on cn and jp by the way
minor robin
We already said that we the translation team has been informed.
true wave
I just think Belette sounds weird, I couldn't care less if she's Belchan or not
minor robin
Whether they will take any steps or not is an entirely different story.
true wave
I also don't really care if they keep it as Belette or not
half dirge
like Belfast -> Bel-chan, it just clicks right in with her art work, whereas Belfast -> Belette is not immediately recognizable even with the art work backing it up
jade surge
@minor robin id like to keep discussing solutions to it incase we stumble upon an actual good idea, but do you want us to take it to like #al-lore or something?
minor robin
You can discuss in DMs I guess
solemn fjord
Don't we like, literally follow JP's schedule? FW event for example, we got it as JP was getting it.
minor robin
We lacking ayanami as a starter is already a big departure from JP
true wave
Following the same schedule doesn't make us beholden to everything JP does
half dirge
instead we have Z23 like how CN have it
minor robin
The short of it is
tardy arch
i really don't care if they change her name just please. anything beside belette. it sounds so dumb.
minor robin
We are not obliged to cater completely to either one server and cater our TLs to any one server
half dirge
@solemn fjord you should read the letter 😐
minor robin
And ofc features
ornate basin
honestly really in the end, the translation team will not be using honorifics and constantly saying how much you dislike their translation over and over is not helping, helping is providing actual names you think could be better, not saying how much you hate it and how it is NOT better
tardy arch
then just call her balchan. full stop. no honorific or anything.
ornate basin
chan is an honorific
true wave
The problem is that the chan in her name is an honorific
tardy arch
not for english it isn't.
jade surge
Well im gonna hop over to #al-lore and think of more solutions for the name and also how to tie chan into the lore if possible, so join me if you want to
solemn fjord
I was providing a feedback. There was no "constantly saying how much i dislike their translation" from me. What kind of disgusting generalization are you trying to pull off here?
ornate basin
are you aware im not targeting anyone?
tardy arch
english doesn't have honorifics. so just calling her belchan should be fine.
true wave
It's a Japanese honorific, which is already stated to be cut from the game's text
And English does have honorifics, that's what Mr. and Mrs. are
solemn fjord
You pinged and directed your messages towards me. It was safe for me to assume you're talking to me directly with that post as well.
ornate basin
um I pinged you about the game not being 100% based on jp????
that was a fully separate message I sent with no mention of people
stable violet
Her full name is Belfast. Her nickname is Bel. Her honorifics is "-chan" or "xiao," there's zero debate behind how her name is structured 
I would suggest for the TL team to consider the name in a more "nickname" perspective, and not focus too much on the "small" part, basing on ender's quoted response
half dirge
that's the translation team stance on a debatable topic but since that's their stance and I won't get to directly talk to them and make suggestion, I will avoid talking more on the matter
solemn fjord
I believe I didn't explain myself correctly right now. Regardless, my point still stands. Nobody here "constantly complains" as you decided to call it. What you just did is a generalization that was very uncalled for.
ornate basin
overall theres a really low chance of the name being changed as even unicorn’s unicorn ugean was argued over for a long time and nothing ended up changing
half dirge
what's wrong with ugean?
ornate basin
its not yuu(u)-chan
tardy arch
actually ya they could just call her bel. just drop the chan and you're good. they don't need an equivalent for "small" at all. since again english doesn't have that.
stable violet
They could've went with low effort "Little Bel" and I would've been okay
half dirge
I do have questions about that but ok, never mind
ornate basin
I can dm you if you want
minor robin
For the final time.
half dirge
mini-bel 
tardy arch
LOL they called u-chan ugean. that's funny af
half dirge
just hire Gurosebe for free :Kappa:
minor robin
The translation team have been informed about the belchan - belette issue. Whether they make any changes to her name is an entirely different issue. Just note that the current stance of the team is No Japanese Honourifics where avoidable.
jade surge
Yo someone in the lore channel just suggested Mini-Bel
velvet adder
I for one think "Ugean" is absolutely horrific as well, but at least it's a name I can easily ignore, but I can't ignore the name on one of my favorite ships and reasons for playing the game. I stand by my previous suggestion of "Little Bel".
ornate basin
thats a more informative version of what I said 
(kidding)
half dirge
@jade surge I just said that above
minor robin
For those of you who want to suggest other names for belchan/belette
Could you compile them then send it here later?
stable violet
How do you even pronounce Ugean LOL
jade surge
Oof sorry i didnt see that
ornate basin
eugene
minor robin
So you don't flood the channel 
stable violet
Prince Ugean
half dirge
nani dafug
minor robin
Regardless getting rather #off-topic here
velvet adder
"Ugean" is meant to be an approximation of "Yuu-chan" as the japanese VA says it. I think it's dumb af honestly.
ornate basin
im 100% fine with belette but my suggestion is if the team really does decide to change it:
Tiny Bel 
minor robin
But yes, if you have any suggestions, do compile them and send it here later
jade surge
Yeah anyone wanting to discuss ideas for her new name jump over to #al-lore, its actually gonna be mostly on topic at that point
minor robin
I suggest wait around what, 12-24h? Your call really, just don't keep on updating
tardy arch
like i said i'm fine with a name change. just no belette please.
true wave
Since that's done, Trello is hard for me to navigate, has anyone suggested a way to search or sort ships with Retrofits in game? Assuming there isn't already one I've missed.
clear heron
I believe it's been suggested before, but let me check if it's in trello.
It's got a list of other requested filters, but the retrofit one is in there.
true wave
Thanks
half dirge
just either
read the wiki
check the collection retrofit, get the last 3 digits for said girl number who have the retrofit
true wave
Yes but I want an ingame method
Especially since we don't have the retrofits for every ship that's gotten them
final cape
Imagine calling intern intern-kun, naming your bots Belfast-chan and Z23-sensei, but then claiming that belette instead of bel-chan is intended because ‘lol muh localization’
solemn fjord
^this
final cape
I know everyone else kvetched about it for a long time now but LOL I just find it funny
rare jay
The discussion is over and Ender has pinned a message regarding it. Don't incite it even more
true wave
The ingame translation and what the handlers of this discord choose to call themselves and their bots aren't tied
minor robin
Unfortunately the discord staff and game staff are different people so it does not matter regardless.
And yes, we don't need anymore incitement.
final cape
Indy-chan is in game tho amongst many other examples but okay go off
Ok sry will not incite any no-nos no more
minor robin
And before anyone brings up another indy-chan thing, they are also being subject to possibly being removed
final cape
Being removed? LOL
Indyette... pls lobotomize me localization team my dumb dumb English brain no understand
ornate basin
this is not a rant channel
jade surge
(Indy chan makes sense because portland heard some of the sakura ships calling each other that and then started calling indy that. This message is brought to you by #al-lore)
solemn fjord
There's something wrong with the game if a rant channel of it were to be filled with reasonable arguments about the problems with said game and the way it's handled, as seen in the example above, albeit it wasn't really worded in a nice manner
true wave
Stop trying to incite the argument more
versed hill
I'm not sure if this is the right place but if its not please inform me where to go. So today the winter's crown event started. In the exchange gacha UI the amount of rewards left is informed with a bright green color and for me that color makes the number impossible to see to the point that I need to get my phone into my face. I use my phone and an emulator do play AL and in both I have this problem. I'm not sure it can get changed but I wanted to share my opinion anyways. Thanks in advance.
left ocean
I also agree on that. the green color is really hard to see. But I do intend to empty all of the boxes.
tardy arch
ya the bright green makes the numbers hard to see.
versed hill
Sure, no problem.
versed hill
@minor robin Already did. Thanks for sending the trello card. c;
minor robin
Now off to bed for me
rare jay
Sleep well, Ender 
sturdy rapids
has it been suggested to show what the gear skins in the shop offer somewhere. I know i can just look in the wiki somewhere but its nice to not have to open browser just to search for minor things
rare jay
Tapping details will show all the skins in the box
sturdy rapids
ayyy thanks, ok wtf there's bus skin lmao
rare jay
No problem
minor robin
We really should make that more clear tho
left ocean
Like make it into a pop out button?
sturdy rapids
change it to Gear Skin List or something
minor robin
Or preview
sturdy rapids
shorter, sounds good
rare jay
I like the idea of preview and it would fit better
sturdy rapids
so who's gonna add it to trello
sturdy rapids
did you just woke up or are you gonna sleep soon. Either way morning/night 👋
minor robin
The latter but yes thank you
velvet adder
Hello. Since the official artbook probably will not be released in English (except maybe as an ebook release?), I'd like to suggest having the lore info like KAN-SEN and cubes entries be accessible in-game as encyclopedia entries inside the Collection/library section? Assuming 5% or less of the playerbase use reddit, the wiki or discord, this makes the lore accessible to the rest?
solemn fjord
Bigger problem is that even the catdevs back in china have no idea what the story actually is and they're making up things on the spot. If i remember correctly there was at some point an announcement that the entire lore/story is getting revamped. Don't expect anything seriously related to lore for next year or so.
sturdy rapids
Just read the pins and scrolled up earlier. I know it won't change the dev's minds on the matter but I just find it weird where we're playing a CN game with JP voices translated to the EN language but some name changes are forced just because there's no equivalent for it on english like Ugean(Like wtf, this just looks weird lmao). Honorifics are part of JP's culture and adapting it to another language of course wouldnt be entirely possible unless you keep the honorifics or use something else. It probably won't change the "no honorifics whenever possible" rule they have now but at least reconsider those whose honorifics are actually the identity in their name(bel-chan and u-chan). Or just remove the - and it'll just like be its part of their name.
ornate basin
ugean is spelled weird because unicorn is like a small child who cant spell
sturdy rapids
that actually sounds so legit that ill take it as canon
ornate basin
if you think about it, it adds more onto the younger sister kind of speak she gives
it was decided by the flip of a coin
sturdy rapids
now make a mini event where uni is spelling ugean
ornate basin
also afaik tiny bel’s name in cn is little belfast
minor robin
Xiao Bei Fa = Small Belfast
left ocean
Is it small or little ?
minor robin
More of little actually yeah
left ocean
I am even fine with Bel chan being called small belfast
velvet adder
in the auditorium, "lecture starts: " should be something like "lecture began: "
https://puu.sh/CPMCk/26466df52a.png
i checked trello and i didn't see anything like this but there was too much stuff go over all of it
rare jay
It's known in the Auditorium info card https://trello.com/c/kcInzZgl/305-auditorium-info
minor robin
Those tags look weird
rare jay
Oh, the labels? I guess it's all three at once
velvet adder
I guess this is why they got Haganeya Jin on board, to revamp the lore?
upper mortar
This might of been brought up 500 times before, but having 2 dorm sets with 20 days left, and 700 coins hurts my soul. And there's no package for 500 coins this event round. Help.
If its possible to delay the new dorm set by x number of days, that would be, awesome
half dirge
you don't have to buy everything in a dorm set and it's not like they are never coming back
and no, that's not a feedback, that's a personal request so prolly it won't be met
upper mortar
The feedback is timed dorm sets so close together is pretty harsh when completionists try and get everything 100%.
void schooner
Sure is tough being a completionist, huh?
sturdy rapids
^my problem with completion. But hey, someone mentioned they come back so I'm fine with that.
civic hawk
The new plane, glowworm and torch, are those name are translated from CN? Those plane are real and named Firefly mk.1 for glowworm and Firebrand for torch. Just saying. It's weird to see a plane has the same name of a ship that rammed hipper
naive cobalt
it's known translation error
civic hawk
Ah okay
barren ore
Some dialogue for the newer ships like Sirius and Grenville disappoint extremely quick so it's hard to read it in time. Any chance we could extend the text box duration?
naive cobalt
that is because they don't have voice lines
Text duration should be timed to their voice after it gets released
rustic tendon
It's a shame that Sirius like other ship girl have no voice in the game
balmy fern
An option to have shipgirl text close manually instead of automaticly?
Tapping on the shipgirl to close the text if text is displayed instead of it closing automaticly
dense yacht
would it be possible consider automatic update system for game i love azur lane but i find it kinda annoying finding my self taping game open then downloading small 1mb update before i get to play it's not end of world but since i have unlimited data plan on my phone id like to see maybe automatic update system if that is possible
rare jay
@dense yacht The problem w/ that idea I feel is that not everyone has unlimited data, or is connected to data at the time the update is pushed out and would rather use wi-fi (especially since it's more reliable). Also, the game has to reconnect to the server to download updates, hence why you have to re-open the app to be able to download them. And I don't wanna imagine them having to rework that system.
dense yacht
true that thanks anyway for reply
sturdy rapids
you can download the data before maintenance ends btw, granted there might be more updates before server goes live but at least it lessens the data you need to download 😅
static needle
Game automatically updates once you open it. The updates are very small with 50mb about the biggest updates which most even the cheapest carrier plans should be able to do. Or do you mean auto updating using google update feature. This game has alot of hotfix updates lately which is directly applied to the client. If we do it the google way it'll be what to say kinda annoying.
nova dragon
Would it be possible to have an option to choose whether you get the CN version instead of the JP Prinz bikini skin? The CN version is way better and I'd rather use that one than the JP version
clear heron
It's been suggested, vote for visibility here https://trello.com/c/kG9ObcBR/76-add-cn-skins
nova dragon
will do
ornate basin
im still the only vote 
static needle
Do we already have a petition for them to fix Pvp ranking names because the ones shown in Ranking List and Pvp page is different Admiral of the Navy vs Fleet admiral kind of thing. Its actually confusing.
or rather just pick one name and rename the other
naive cobalt
real mountain
I see a bunch of enhancement and ship retirement suggestions in trello, currently it is indeed a bit tedious, my suggestion: add a toggle to a ship (similar to lock but for all instances of that ship) that would be something like "do not keep duplicates" and would cause common ships to automatically enhance highest level enhanceable ship in dock and any higher rarity to automatically get retired for medals. It may reduce tedium too much and decrease dock slot sales but oh how woderfull it would be if implemented
tardy arch
so an "auto enhance" and "auto scrap" toggle right?
ornate basin
yep
essentially thats what it sounds like
im sure both have been suggested but you’re suggesting one trello card for both suggestions?
real mountain
just one toggle and it would decide based on ship rarity, like you always use commons to enhance and rares+ for medals
would solve the problem right at its conception, no need for some autofill buttons and stuff if it all got sorted automatically
ornate basin
1 toggle for 2 different things...?
hm I see now actually
though when toggled by accident, would it instantly retire all of the ships though that are the same
real mountain
no no it would work at drop time
ornate basin
I see
real mountain
and would need double confirmation on toggle time
or hide it somewhere away from new players 😄
ornate basin
something like “Retire ship here?”
jade surge
It wont stop dock upgrade sales, cuz ive been doing that manually and i had to buy my first dock upgrade cuz i literally couldnt fight
normal vine
@naive cobalt can we please have the retrofit tab show greyed-out pictures of the ships we haven't retrofitted yet, like the Archive does?
third time I'm putting this in ...
nova dragon
yes please ^^^^
naive cobalt
@balmy fern added https://trello.com/c/grnrZCEU/453-manual-text-close
@real mountain There're 2 massive problems with your suggestion. First, as you mentioned, it'll reduce fleet slots sales. Second, imo, is even worse - it's too automated. You have to be careful when adding automated improvements. Smth like "Button to automatically use white fodder when enhancing ship" is fine, because it only reduces tedium of having to click 12 ships one at a time. But your suggestion is basically removes any need to almost ever remember or care about enhancement and retire mechanics.
@normal vine I am... actually surprised I managed to miss it 3 times. Done https://trello.com/c/oTJN738j/454-show-not-yet-retrofited-ships
@restive mountain I had a discussion about similar suggestion with staff at some point and they said they have smth in mind
hardy nymph
I dont know where to post it so I'll post it here. This isn't how you spell mobilize-
rare jay
Just for future reference, #bug-reports is the channel for translation issues. But regarding this instance, 'mobilise' is actually a British spelling of 'mobilize' which is fitting for a HMS ship
naive cobalt
noble fable
Is there a way to normalize the volume of the spoken lines between different skins? The difference between the baseline lines and JP NY skin's lines for Helena is pretty big
naive cobalt
known issue
spiral merlin
current EX requirements make it impossible to fulfill the <=4 ship requirement to 3-star because it's exactly the same requirements from cn/jp
naive cobalt
impossible
same as cn/jp
spiral merlin
lvl120
naive cobalt
Original WC had same requirements and was run before cognition awakening
spiral merlin
what am I missing then 🤔
tardy arch
fleet comp, proper gear, gear lvls, ship skill lvls etc. could be any one of those.
spiral merlin
in terms of the "Deployed < 4" requirement.
tardy arch
ya. exactly what i listed. they all play a part in your performance.
spiral merlin
I used 4 ships in both fleets and it didn't work
tardy arch
i'd ask over in #gameplay-help for fleet comp suggestions then.
spiral merlin
I mean it didn't count as 3*, the boss is really easy, that's not the problem
true wave
I've never done the EX maps, but could "4 or less ships" mean total of both fleets?
spiral merlin
the requirements would be outright impossible to fulfill then
naive cobalt
Ok, I think I found the problem
you right, I missed star conditions
original run had different ones
I would guess that happened because of how fast they had to implement rerun of WC, when the intent was to have original
That won't be a problem moving forward anyway, but thanks for noticing
spiral merlin
so... is it impossible rn?
naive cobalt
I'm pretty sure others done it, or you wouldn't be the first one to notice it
spiral merlin
I'll try again
velvet adder
If I recall correctly, having a fleet with just 4 ships and a second one filled with units to stack the stats is enough - just retreat the second one before engaging the boss
spiral merlin
oh, so I have to retreat one before doing it? makes sense now, thanks
spiral merlin
didn't work, I sunk my 2nd fleet and even used only 3 ships in my 1st fleet
⭐ Deployed < 4 won't be fulfilled no matter what
^ fixed
rugged gull
The daily amounts of hardmaps (story) is lowerd from 6 to 3...
But is the drop rate of retrofit item increased or not?
If not...that's unfair.
clear heron
Blueprints should be doubled, and you get core data as well.
When I say doubled, that means double drops though, not that you'll get a dupelicate of what you got, since IIRC they can be different.
true wave
They can be different, yeah, can get a blue and gold or two purples ect.
visual storm
Can we have a function that allows players to shift the position of the Hard mode requirement? You know, The "Carrier" or "Battleship" slots. It gets real annoying that you have to swap places with them every time you go into a run. Minor inconvenience but still.
true wave
Hardmode fleet order is decided by the order you enter the ships. Put them in in the order you want them to be in, you don't have to put in the mandatory ones first.
The first backline ship you select will be your flag ship, the first frontline ship will be your lead ship
visual storm
Oh is it? Well, I'll just try that next time.
viral fiber
pls none of these ads, they make people cringe and the comments say it clearly
also not the best promotion ads, mafia city esque
true wave
I think a lot of their ads are actually meant to be riffs on other really bad, really prolific mobile game ads, but I don't think most people are getting the joke
ornate basin
you’ve ruined my night. al ads infuriate me and now I am frustrated and angry
true wave
^Exhibit A^
I appreciate the creativity, but I think something more genuine would be a better approach, if I wasn't already hooked by the CN version I wouldn't have started playing based on the ads
ornate basin
al ads have been a topic of discussion since the beginning of al en, I think they finally cut back on the GOD AWFUL (sorry creators who made it) youtube ads they put out since no one has brought it up in a thankfully long time
but those ones.... they have escaped the wrath of disgusted users.....
true wave
The one with Belchan evolving into Belfast was honestly one of the worst, if only because it completely misrepresented the gameplay and anybody who didn't know better would think it was just another of those dozens of crappy "evolve your creatures" games
Though that one was also the most obvious as being a parody
ornate basin
98% of the ads misrepresent the game
true wave
Dracula Voice: "The same could be said of all religions mobile games!"
Mobile game ads are just bad in general, I appreciate the attempt at being silly that the AL ads go for, but the only people that get the joke are those that already play the game, and everyone else just thinks it's another cheap cash grab
torn glacier
GOD AWFUL (sorry creators who made it) youtube ads they put out since no one has brought it up in a thankfully long time
I started playing because of those tbh
torn glacier
true wave
I hate mobile ads where they're obviously not actually playing the game the most
When you see three ads with different "players" but the exact same gameplay, and it's super obvious they're not playing that boring ass game they're pretending is crazy fun
Are there any AL ads that actually show the gameplay?
ornate basin
there was one but it was never seen again
well there is one they used a promotional video ONLY posted to twitter.
and its super good and im extremely disappointed its not used
true wave
Do you have a link to it?
naive cobalt
I'd say all their event trailers are good
ornate basin
(I have only seen one and it was good)
true wave
Oh man, I remember that one
naive cobalt
true wave
Can't believe that was almost a year ago
ornate basin
its much more older, its just in english
true wave
I just meant that tweet itself
ornate basin
a new one came out on the one year anniversary
but it cant relate much to the en server I believe
true wave
China got a really nice TV ad I remember, I'm really glad I haven't seen any of our embarrassing ads on TV
ornate basin
ok I remembered I recorded the video as it was being announced (I was watching the live stream for 1 year anniv) and it doesnt display any gameplay but it does show off the ships and artwork
soft arch
i just LOVE the design of the purifier siren model, to the point I wish she was a playable ship XD
velvet adder
Could the next month's login reward girl get added to collection at the start of their month instead of in the same day we got the last month login one? Otherwise it is literally impossible to reach and flex 100% collection 
coral ivy
Isn't that how it was normally done? I remember a few people getting 100% the day they got Tanikaze... Maybe they changed it 
velvet adder
What i mean is that we can't get 100% this month because the reward for the next month is already there and if they do the same the next and next and next month, noone will never be able to reach 100% again
nova dragon
nobody will ever reach 100%
brave sable
unless you're from cbt u cant anyway
normal vine
you can, Avrora will be available via anniversary event
(I wonder if we'll ever get any more Soviet botes)
hollow lagoon
I am hoping most Soviet botes will all come in one major future event.
And yeah, the only time people ever reached 100% was with Isokaze's monthly login because she does not have a retrofit and the time just happened to be between events. Otherwise, 100% is just impossible with the events right now
normal vine
I don't think retrofits count for that
hasty mountain
pardon me for not ctrl+f'ing trello but it is incredibly difficult to find anything there with chrome;
is there a way to reorder a hard mode fleet other than going by the order you select them? during the stage doesn't count because it's only good for that run
normal vine
nope
hasty mountain
that's my feedback then
tardy arch
it's actually not that hard to navigate. just click on the "show menu" in the upper right and click "search cards" and viola.
also what? by "reorder" you mean "rearrange" right? if so you can do that before the battle starts.
hasty mountain
my menu was hidden that explains that. much easier using the filter
and yes I mean rearrange. before battle is no good as it's only valid for that run, I have to do that for every time I run that map or I have to select the ships again in the order I want which isn't very intuitive
tardy arch
ok i see. ya it is annoying that you can't select the fleet order for HM before you enter.
rare jay
Give me one minute and I'll get that added
@hasty mountain Also, just to verify, do you mean ship order in HM or actually 'Fleet 1' and 'Fleet 2' order?
tardy arch
pretty sure he means the ship order. as you can switch between the fleets mid map.
rare jay
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'll make the card on that assumption
neon kite
Suggested this a while back but I think it got missed? I'm wondering if we could perhaps get an option to change dorm size. Sometimes I feel like desigining a more cozy dorm theme but it's hard to do when u have a fully expanded dorm.
rare jay
@hasty mountain https://trello.com/c/dad3vkbt/455-ability-to-choose-ship-order-in-hm Created. Also @naive cobalt since this is my first feedback card, let me know if there is anything better I could've done w/ it
hasty mountain
yep I meant ship order.... fleet order doesn't really matter as far as I can tell
sturdy rapids
@normal vine pretty sure retros also count towards collection %
normal vine
uuh ... huh, you're right
velvet adder
I will just say it 1 more time because some people didn't get the main point: Hatsuharu counts towards collection % and she is a MARCH log-in reward, but we are still in february
naive cobalt
it doesn't really matter
velvet adder
It probably matters for the people that are at 99,6% now, and i guess i will give up my dream of 100% too
naive cobalt
well, if you want bragging rights - having all the ships you possibly can counts as such. if you just want "a number" - how is that important
ornate basin
people like 100%ers feel at ease with such a number
but yes.. it is just a number
with no real benefit
naive cobalt
and you won't have 100% collection anyway because EN missing so many ships and retros
neon kite
why is it feedback often gets ignored or just dismissed for w/e reason? People suggest things because they obviously care
naive cobalt
what is the feedback here exactly?
neon kite
What berserker said about the collection %
velvet adder
JP will never have 100% collection because they are missing bismarck, but they can have a nice 100% number there anyways
naive cobalt
some feedback is not feasible or important enough to be followed through.
I may sugarcoat it if you want and say some empty stuff, but I see no reason to do it
neon kite
how is it not feasible? And attention to small details are what turns games good.
Adding a ship that's not available a whole month before doesn't even make sense to begin with
tardy arch
why change how the system works when that 100% is gonna go back down almost instantly?
neon kite
No one said anything about changing the system
tardy arch
that was berserkers suggestion.
naive cobalt
Because when new month starts she's gonna have a collection entry anyway
She has to have one
I can see "don't add before new month starts"
but
to be added a week later```"Could the next month's login reward girl get added to collection at the start of their month instead of in the same day we got the last month login one? Otherwise it is literally impossible to reach and flex 100% collection"
normal vine
@velvet adder not even CN has Bismack yet ...
neon kite
theres absolutely nothing that needs changing except adding the ship at a later date
velvet adder
@normal vine He said "we don't have all the ships, so our collection % means nothing" and i told him that JP/CN doesn't have Bismarck
tardy arch
yes he's asking to change how it works. i'm not gonna argue this with you cause you did so yourself.
neon kite
It's pretty ridiculous that everytime a suggestion has to go through there needs to be an entire debate, even a small thing like this. Sometimes makes me wonder why this ch even exist
velvet adder
I don't understand how it is not feasible when it was already made 1 time. And is done every month in the other servers
young jetty
One of the reason why they're added early is so that they don't have to do another maintenance just to add one ship at the very first day of each new month
naive cobalt
I was talking about this particular situation rn
tardy arch
he never said it wasn't feasible.
some feedback is not feasible or important enough to be followed through.
i think this suggestion falls into the latter.
naive cobalt
It is not "feasible" to remove current ship from the collection. I was continuing previous sentence.
neon kite
and therein lies the problem, whats important or not are different for every player
velvet adder
I am not asking to remove it this month in specific, but to avoid it happening again the next months at least.
naive cobalt
That I can add, but just know it probably won't be changed
Suggested this a while back but I think it got missed? I'm wondering if we could perhaps get an option to change dorm size. Sometimes I feel like desigining a more cozy dorm theme but it's hard to do when u have a fully expanded dorm. I thought I added this one, but it was probably missed.
sturdy rapids
has it been suggested to filter on the dock on showing what equipment all the girls have?
naive cobalt
?
sturdy rapids
like, seeing what kind of equipment all the girls have equipped all at once
naive cobalt
sturdy rapids
and no, im not talking about storage because you cant see who has equipped what
naive cobalt
Well, we not taking UI suggestion because of the upcoming rework.
sturdy rapids
ah fuck, forgot it falls under UI
naive cobalt
But even if we were - I absolutely cannot imagine it
That would be impossible to fit all 5 items into small icons
and to be recognizable
sturdy rapids
i imagine itll be something like this. With small icon on the left part followed by the name
naive cobalt
sturdy rapids
i just have a lot of equipment after opening some tech boxes and I have no idea who doesnt have an AA/aux/torp equipped yet
oh well, doesnt matter for now anyway since it wont be considered atm
naive cobalt
Well, you should remember this suggestion till we get new UI
sturdy rapids
yeah, ill just bring it up later then. Thanks. Should be easy to backlog with search
tardy arch
ok so it does seem like the devs are going with belette. i don't like it but w/e. one thing though. can someone please explain why they called her a weasel?
tardy arch
well the reason for the -ette naming was "she's a french ship" did none of the devs even look up what the word could mean? cause this is hilariously ironic.
minor robin
-ette in french/english is usually used to describe diminutive or small
hence bel + ette
minor robin
bel means beautiful in french anyways
bel (short for belfast) and ette
= small bel anyways
that was the idea at least
they probably didn't check to see if belette has any extra meaning...
which i can't really blame them for?
tardy arch
ik but that's if you separate the words. combined they mean weasel which i imagine the french players are gonna have a good laugh at.
eh honestly they could have done more research about it beyond the "little" meaning.
minor robin
and historically... there actually were 4 HMS Belettes...
and all were late 18th to early 19th century cruisers
really should bring this up
sturdy rapids
has it been suggested that if a ship is resting on the 2nd floor and i select her to train on the first floor then it should give a prompt to ask on whether or not you want that ship to switch over to train instead of just saying "<Ship> is resting"
wind lagoon
There should be a feature to allow trading between friends or guild members. Or just anyone. For example you can type their username and request to trade. And allow trading between different servers.
naive cobalt
It was suggested before and denied, because of massive possibilities for an abuse.
And interactions between servers are impossible afaik
true wave
I could see people using multiple accounts to feed resources to a single main account
wind lagoon
Understandable. Have a great day/night.
ornate basin
thats why its under "abusable"
rare jay
@sturdy rapids https://trello.com/c/zTa0exXT/459-change-which-dorm-level-shipgirls-are-on Created
sturdy rapids
perfect, ill vote for it later. Thanks
rare jay
No problem
sturdy rapids
ah fuck, another suggestion. Can the selected ship girls in dorm be on the very top??
neon kite
Can we get an automatic refetch on our pvp opponents rank & fleet after a certain amount of time has passed? Right now this information is only fetched once and will only update itself by: relogin to clear cache and check your exercise list, finish a pvp battle or use the "New opponent" button. This would be a huge QoL improvement for pvpers that aim for top ranks, because the system right now forces us to relogin several times a day just to get updated info on our opponents rank before deciding if it's worth battling yet (sandbagging). The implementation for such a feature could be done in a way without adding unneccesary server strain:
- Log date & time client side whenever the list gets updated
- Upon visit to exercise, compare current time to the logged time, if more than e.g. 5 min has passed since last update, send request to server to get a new update.
naive cobalt
neon kite
thanks
naive cobalt
Actually, is that the same thing? https://trello.com/c/8xsS8K7F/249-refresh-own-exercise-rank
Sounds like it, so I'll go ahead and archive it as yours is more detailed
neon kite
It's a bit different
tardy arch
that doesn't sound like a good idea as you'd lose your rank when you refresh right?
neon kite
this one refers to the data on our own which I think it already does? I might be wrong though
stuck bramble
An archive for weapons and gear?
Like how we have an archive for boats, and if you dont have them, they're greyed out...
So the same thing we have for the boats, but for weapons and gear, and also with the comment section for them so players can give their opinions about that certain gun/equip
stone crag
Sirius 2B costume when?
upper mortar
Sirius va plz
ornate basin
@stone crag
sterile lodge
As for the Sirius VA bit: Why not level up the Sirius/2B memes? Yostar's already employed 2B's VA as Enty, iirc. I'd not complain, and it would be funny, if she voiced Sirius, as well.
naive cobalt
That has nothing to do with EN, that would be done on JP side and just because they've yet to announce it - doesn't mean the don't have the VA already
median sky
I wish this game had some sort of trading system. I'm so sick of spending real money in hopes of getting the new event characters before they dissapear for a while. I keep trying to get Grenville but each day my hope of getting her is fading. Oh but I got San diego a million times. OH YAY.
naive cobalt
trading system is extremely abusable
no, level req or trade limit won't make it balanced
median sky
Well I just don't think its fair when you have spent like £150 on the game and all you get is repeat rubbish.
I just wish the game had some kind of system to help.
sturdy rapids
trade system wouldnt be the answer then but- yeah that above ^
basically a step up scout(or in this case build)
naive cobalt
you can vote for this suggestion to show that more people want it
median sky
That sounds like a good idea but I also think if you spent real money, especially alot then you should also be guranteed a character through the construction.
Maybe like you could buy a ticket
Like you could spend £20 to get a ticket where you can select a character from a list.
naive cobalt
That doesn't sound fair to F2P players, if you can just buy whatever ship you want, especially if ship is strong for meta or just in general.
I'm not even talking in practice, but that would be incredibly bad move for the PR, especially considering the idea that the game is F2P friendly.
It is probably the most F2P friendly (and successful) game on market and moves like these could easily destroy all the goodwill and support
fathom sandal
Buying tickets to select a character - sounds like sh*t. This game is liked by many thanks to the fact that you cannot buy any character.
median sky
Yeah but it's so unfair when I have spent alot of money on the game to help it out and I'm the one who can't get that 1 character I want from this event.
Yet people who spent £0 get all the characters.
I get that its' FTP friendly but I just find this unfair but that's life I guess.
sturdy rapids
thats just how RNG is tho, if anything the rates are generous in this game compared to other games so if you dont get anything even after spending thats just your luck. Heck some of hte OP limited/event units you get as a reward just from playing the game
sturdy rapids
^also the safety net is already suggested above, i dont get why you're still trying to make this super p2w
median sky
It wouldn't be so bad if it was like a Yuudachi situation but with construction but I only have 2 weeks and then I won't be able to get Grenville most likely until 2020. Yay
fathom sandal
So what? But, if this function is added, only those who throw money at the monitor will have this opportunity. Great idea, yeah. Do not offer so stupid things. Maybe you still want to suggest that when you donate for $100, you are automatically given out all the ships from the event with one click? Remember once and for all - in this game, in most cases, donation does not give gaming advantages over other players. Even if you buy 200+ cubes, it’s absolutely not a fact that you will get the ship you need. So the games work that are not associated with the concept of Pay2Win. What you have to offer is Pay2Win. By the way, in this game, with donations, you can buy a skin for your waifu. Or, for example, marry her. And also get the skin if it is present.
true wave
What's a "Yuudachi situation but with construction"?
naive cobalt
"hard to get, but permanent"
true wave
That's what I figured, I just wasn't sure why Yuudachi specifically was the comparison
naive cobalt
personal reasons most likely
sturdy rapids
I've only done builds from the free cubes you get every day every event except nep event. In the end I still got everyone just from doing daily builds.
median sky
I don't get how.
You only get 4 free cubes, that's 2 attempts.