This overlap makes it look really weird... maybe try to hide the text at the back?
#game-feedback
velvet adder
raven crater
Can you provide a larger screenshot for better context?
raven crater
Hmm... Actually I think you can report that as a graphics and interface type of bug via the bug report form (do try to be specific when describing it)
!bugreport
turbid gazelleBOT
please use this form to report bugs and translation errors/typos! https://goo.gl/forms/YVtYNnG7PWsYEuSn2
Be sure to check #known-bugs to make sure you're not reporting something that is already known!
velvet adder
ic oki
raven crater
Something like "long equipment type names extend outside of the equipment slot title space" or something
and provide that screenshot as an example
ruby pewter
and the overlapping is cause of skin interface being right behind normal equip interface
still owl
I just have one feedback though. I love this game so bad that I want to support it so hard until I'm broke! I also want AL EN to succeed because the team listens to the player's feedback unlike some publishers of certain mobile game that I used to know cough GFL cough. Fuck censorship and rock the fuck on AL!
raven crater
@frail epoch report is as a translation error via the bug report form
@still owl Thanks! Well, guess I can't take any credit for it personally since I'm not Yostar staff but I'm sure they appreciate the kind words
raven crater
P.S. if that explanation sounds complicated and confusing it's because it is complicated and confusing lol
the wiki does a good job explaining it but we don't have quite that much room in the tooltip
short portal
Should just change the explination to "Happiness is .....you'd better just consult the wiki, okay?" /s
frail epoch
@raven crater I used the Google form, ok?
raven crater
plucky trail
I'm not sure if this should go here or in help, but i think it's more feedback-related.
There is one thing i really don't understand in the game and would love to see it explained/changed.
The oil system. It makes no sense at all to me.
I mean, since oil is limited, everyone try to create low oil cost fleets for farming. But that's for farming gear/characters(Akagi, Kaga, Yuudachi... etc) to make the main fleets stronger.
I just wonder what's even the point in using Super Rare ships and uncap them. The oil consumption's increase with leveling up and with each uncap is just dreadfull to the point that the game punishes you for using the ssr characters you worked so hard to uncap and upgrade.
It's like ''You worked hard to prepare your best units? Nice work. But you can't use them in the same fleet because your oil will die in 2 hours.''
raven crater
Limit breaks don't increase oil by that much
Nor is oil cost related to rarity
it's more closely related to ship class
What does ALSO increase oil cost though is leveling
and that I think has a greater effect than limit breaking
plucky trail
It doesn't increase a lot by itself. But when you look at the whole fleet, it ends up in like 11 cost per ship. That's a lot in a entire fleet.
raven crater
I think each limit break adds +1 oil cost except the last one adds 2 for most classes (not 100% sure though)
that's why the idea is to use fewer ships
instead of low LB ships
so instead of using 6 0LB ships it's generally more efficient to use 3-4 strong ships
unless you're pushing story
in which case it doesn't really matter because you just need to clear the maps
Also this is the full explanation for happiness/comfort
plucky trail
That's what i mean. After you get like 3-4 strong ships, what's the point in getting/preparing more of them?
Fleet have 6 spaces but it punishes you for using them 
raven crater
Because you need multiple fleets, so generally you'll need at least 6 to 8 ships no matter what. In some cases that still might not be enough. In hard mode there are ship type and overall stat requirements as well. And for exercises, you'll always want a full fleet of ships too.
You'll also need somewhat leveled ships to send out on commissions too
The enemy level also increases by 10 each world
which makes things exponentially more difficult
JP is up to world 12
so you pretty much need two full 6 ship fleets
naive cobalt
Oil/fleet management is part of the skill cap in my opinion. You're not punished by using lots of ships, more like rewarded for being able to create small and efficient fleets
plucky trail
Fair enough i guess.
It just feels a bit sad to me that i'm ''not able'' (It's more like i shouldn't) to use the 6 fleet spaces in pve content.
raven crater
In the beginning it's useful. But because people tend to grind (especially on 3-4) it eventually becomes inefficient because your ships are so overleveled
it's also sometimes useful to get the initial "defeat all escort fleets" star
since you need more endurance
worn plover
I appreciate the increased time for the night commissions, but they are still too late for me and I'm not even in the farthest east continental U.S. time zone. Any way we can get that bumped up even further? Or have an alternative some other time during the day?
raven crater
I mean, it's 11 PM EDT if I can convert time correctly
Honestly someone somewhere is going to get fucked by night commmissions
I think this is a good compromise
worn plover
why not just make them always available and only doable once a day? effectively the same thing
raven crater
Because that's not "night" commissions
the idea is that they occur at night
I guess I'll add it to suggestions but I wouldn't hold your breath
frail epoch
"Happiness is the sum of Comfort derived from bought furniture. Decoration types have set limits of comfort they can provide. Arrangements don't affect total happiness." I guess that's the most simplified way to say it. Maybe you could add the max Comfort number on each type tab.
raven crater
Happiness is the sum of Comfort derived from the top n Comfort furniture and [number of expansions] dorm expansions. n represents the number of each type of furniture (wallpaper, floor, etc.) that can provide additional comfort, and is increased through dorm expansions. Furniture placement has no effect on total happiness.
that's the most condensed and detailed explanation I can think of
frail epoch
So, the highest number of comfort in each furniture type is added up to make the total happiness, dorm expansions increases the limit each type can provide and arrangements don't affect this total
That's how I understand your explanation
raven crater
correct
and the limit of the number of items that can provide comfort is different for each type
elder path
Am I allowed to voice my opinion of concern for the new decor tokens sales?
naive cobalt
of course
elder path
That's a lot of progression for sale. I understand there's a limited time decor style available for sale, but I believe that part of the joy of this game is progressing without purchasing. I have been extremely outspoken about how this game offers free to players a true sense of accomplishment, and while this does not detract from that aspect, it offers a direct form of progression via purchasing power. I am cautiously hesitant about this.
naive cobalt
but a lot of people wanted them
frail epoch
I have 30 total happiness, 18 from purchased stuff and 12 probably reward collections, which means it doesn't add up the highest number but the Comfort of all furniture bought/received with Comfort 1 or higher.
naive cobalt
My concern is that they might increase prices of furniture in future
To motivate more people to just buy them
Or to decrease gain of these coins by a little bit, so it's not even noticeable from a glance.
I doubt they'll do it
But still a bit concerning they might
elder path
I have been chugging away grinding commissions and have bagged over 3000 tokens so far. It feels like those are must-buy packs and I don't have any gems to spend right now. I don't want to feel like I have to buy something or be losing out (that is the worst feeling.)
naive cobalt
well, you gained 3000 coins in a two weeks, and limited furniture is there for a whole month iirc, so it's ok
it's ok now, but who knows
elder path
Yeah. I'm not mad about it, just concerned about what it means for possible future direction
naive cobalt
Same
I'm fine as long as it won't change anything
And is there just as another way for whales to support the game
elder path
Also to the people that wanted them, weren't the level packs the best deal?
naive cobalt
(thank you whales ❤ )
raven crater
@frail epoch It adds them all up because you haven't hit the item cap for anything yet.
@elder path Maybe @bleak vale can clarify, but I don't think the decor token packs are limited time, in which case you aren't "missing out" on anything I don't think. Since Azur Lane is not very heavy on PVP, I don't think this sort of thing really throws off the game balance too much either, and decor tokens are pretty hard to get in other ways (plus, you can buy coins and oil already anyway).
@naive cobalt Because of the way the exp modifiers work, the more happiness you have the lower the EXP gain actually is for each additional piece of furniture. It'll plateau pretty hard at around 150 comfort because of the way the formula works, so I don't think furniture cost will be a game balance issue
frail epoch
@raven crater Guess your explanation is the best we have now, clear and detailed
@raven crater Guess your explanation is the best we have now, clear and detailed
raven crater
No, I don't mean in "game balance" way.
Just in "you can't get everything unless you pay"
Like limited furniture
raven crater
I mean, that's already a thing in JP
there's furniture that can only be bought with gems
naive cobalt
That's a bit different thing, than "making non-gems furniture harder to obtain", but I get you.
Again - I'm completely fine as long as it won't change much for me
raven crater
The way I see it, the decor token packs are a fast way for beginning players to max out their dorm expansions. I don't see as much utility for them late game
I seriously have a comfort of 438 in JP 
frail epoch
Why would you even want to buy all the furniture available? Plus, the watermelon theme only looks good in summer so being limited isn't really bad
naive cobalt
I just want to have fun stuff. I like to customize my dorms and such, even if it's useless.
frail epoch
I guess, but not the first game that feels like you can't get everything without paying
naive cobalt
Especially if it is, because, for example in GFL you're punished for not cramming shit-ton of junk in your dorm for comfort.
I guess, but not the first game that feels like you can't get everything without paying
Yeah, I'm fine with that, my concern that it'll be even harder to get. Coins weren't purchasable, which means game should be balanced in a way that it's possible to get everything without paying (because you can't anyway).
raven crater
I know we're getting a bit philosophical here, but to be honest I think having some things behind a purchase wall is fine. They need to make money after all. The important thing is that it doesn't become pay to win. I think dorm provides a small utility but is largely aesthetic, and the practical aspect of the dorm is easily improved slowly over time as a free to play player.
I know some people are concerned about the decor tokens causing them to rebalance the game around people buying them but to be honest, I don't think it upsets the balance very much if at all and so far there isn't any indication they're planning to do that. If they increase the cost of furniture compared to other items, then we can riot, but until then I don't think there's a cause for concern
naive cobalt
I feel like I'm explaining myself more then I'm actually concerned about that 😅
frail epoch
The game doesn't have PvP other then the exercises and seasonal rankings so eh, you can get good just having lots of oil and grinding hard mode
The dorm is just a passive EXP gain for when you're busy and also a way to improve affinity, which can improve with cheap stuff
raven crater
I also don't think furniture has any effect on improving morale
it only increases the exp bonus
naive cobalt
Well, that one is less about furniture and more about coins and with coins you can easily buy dorm expansions and then second floor, which does increases morale gain
elder path
Are the decor packs three time lifetime purchase?
naive cobalt
But that's certainly not a problem anyway
elder path
Some games do resets monthly/annually/etc. And while I agree @raven crater with your sentiment that the game is more of a single-player collector/progression type game (I fully agree with you, by the way), it's more about how it comes off to players who are doing honest progression.
Might just be me adjusting to a non-ladder style game
Dunno
raven crater
That I don't know. I'm not sure I've ever seen them in JP. But I do know that there are different packs that show up from time to time in the shop. For example, there are usually heavily discounted extra oil packs that show up during events in JP. I'm not sure on what their plans on for the decor token packs whether they're lifetime, will recharge, limited, semi limited (will come back to the shop multiple times but not be in there all the time), or what. That's a better question for @bleak vale . Regardless, I can't foresee needing to buy much more than 3... maybe 4 of those packs ever (which would allow you to quickly fully expand your dorm and still leave you with 400 coins for furniture)
elder path
Alright. You've certainly allayed some of my concerns, so thanks.
raven crater
np
Of course, megawhales would buy an infinite number of them anyway but even as a "relatively uninhibited P2P" it's like, once I have the dorm fully expanded why do I need more furniture coins urgently?
2nd floor upgrade (when it comes) is actually done in gems
elder path
I think some of it might just be my own personal "but i'm doing so goooood at this without buying anything!" But I've left that selfishness at the door with this game so I gotta keep it there heh
raven crater
Dorms aren't a competition unless you want it to be :-P
If you want to go full F2P though, I think the game is still very well adapted for that
Things that involve game progression are balanced such that spending money isn't required, and things that don't involve game progression usually have a heavy grind or a hard and fast price point attached to them
patent narwhal
winter escarp
as long as someone can get most/ all the furnishings by playing the game a lot, i don't see much issue with the decor tokens being in shop, but impulse shoppers will go for it. though i think that is more on the person then the game. So far the only issue I seem to have at the moment is the cost of RL cash to gold but they may of made that high for a reason to try to allow f2p or cheap to play competive with whales still.
this goes in line i think why someone said it might be a bad idea to allow gems to speed up comissions
lament quiver
Minor quality of life: When reinstalling Azur Lane in order to use an account already bound to twitter, after accepting the terms and conditions the option to log in using twitter or facebook goes away, making the user have to restart the game after accepting terms and conditions.
raven crater
Got it
empty spoke
The late summer sale banner has Prince of Wales on it despite her not being in the EN version yet
I'm sure this is just a case of reused assets but still
naive cobalt
there're some "unconfirmed rumours" that we'll get her pretty soon 
velvet adder
i'm sure they're going to have
summer skins wave 2
(Atago's missing, Takao's missing, PoW missing, no cygnet quest, no yamashiro quest)
lean helm
Inconsistent limit break description. Change DD limit break 2 "torpedo base+1" to "torpedo capacity+1". Base+1 is for guns that shoot extra times like BB limit breaks. DD limit break 2 is same thing as CV limit break 2 which says hanger capacity+1.
frail epoch
Don't know if it's a mistake but Purin is listed as a Destroyer instead of Repair or Other
ornate basin
^
frail epoch
Oh... Well shoot, what a weak destroyer!
That cant be enhanced cause she an engineer
naive cobalt
Don't think it's a bug, so'll post it here. When choosing fleet for daily mission, if your fleet is empty, you can't choose it, so if you want to make fleet just for this - you need to go to Formation screen and do it there, even if just to add one single ship.
(I have third fleet unlocked, but can't choose it)
(I also wanted to suggest adding details screen here, to change equip, but they've actually added long press to look at ships details 
)
frail epoch
You need to push the change button...
That way you can change ships in there
Never mind, read the post wrong
dim drift
@raven crater hey navi, sorry for the ping but I just haven't gotten a response at all when the bugged gems I bought will be sent to me all I got is a "soon" but when is that?
raven crater
I don't know, I'm not yostar staff
dim drift
ya that's what i thought
raven crater
you could DM @bleak vale but he might be offline until monday
raven crater
when is "yesterday" because depending on timezones he might have already been off work
I know it's already saturday for them
raven crater
Hmm, yeah, he might have been online.
raven crater
To be honest, I think they need a better support system than just overwhelming Intern senpai's DMs until he fixes it
dim drift
honestly it's frustrating at this point
raven crater
But that's a bit beyond my scope
dim drift
not knowing when i get the gems
the lack of communication or assurance
is bugging me
slim horizon
the quest for yamashiro skin still not out yet rite ?
raven crater
not yet
@dim drift I don't know what goes in behind the scenes, but I do know that AL official gets a lot of DMs from people. The server is up to 15,000 people now, and of course a lot of people want to talk to staff. I think it's perfectly fine to message him if the customer support isn't helping you, but it's very possible that he missed it or didn't have time to get to it. I'm going to try and talk to GT and AL Official together directly to try and get an idea of what kind of customer support solution they have right now and if they're looking into anything more robust, because it's clear that it is currently very lacking right now.
dim drift
@raven crater thx for responding navi and I know the server is big and things are still going, but I just need some re-assurance it's going to be done
a simple message is not convincing enough for me to be at ease that it's going to happen whenever that might be
grateful they responded but not a definitive answer
raven crater
Well, I can tell you that the game isn't going anywhere, so while I don't know when you'll get your gems I'm sure you will get them eventually
dim drift
well guess I'll have to wait
so far everything has been going fine
I did recently buy some gems and those processed
well the most recent one never showed up on my statement
but I did technically pay for it
but u alrdy listed that in the known issues
so idk what they'll do
I'm gonna be mad if they decide to ban me because I didnt "pay" or something
raven crater
Yeah there've been cases of people buying gems and not getting them, buying gems and not paying for them, and buying gems and not getting them OR paying for them
raven crater
I doubt that will happen
dim drift
I didnt have control over
raven crater
And if it does, well... you know where you can reach them at least
dim drift
because A. that's just plain unfair B. out of my control
raven crater
there's no point in getting mad about it before it happens though
dim drift
true
im not mad
but it's just a "if" scenario
hypothetically speaking
ah well
you answered my concerns in one way or another
so thank you for that navi
raven crater
you're welcome, I'll do my best to get you your gems (and the guy in #bug-reports too)
dim drift
much appreciated
devout meadow
Shouldn't we change this to "You are out of exercise rounds" or something?
raven crater
Maybe. I think it still makes sense though
or "exercise attempts" would be better than your option I think
velvet adder
It's been talked about again and again, so time to bring it up here - Warspite's Divine Marksman skill needs to be fixed, so that it won't always shoot at the farthest possible target (and miss, as a result of the shell travel time and enemy movement).
That, or the shots need to go much faster to make up for it.
naive cobalt
I think that's intended
velvet adder
They fixed skills in the past, redeeming previously considered hopeless units, surely they can do it again.
And her skill really needs fixing, considering how poorly she performs compared to most other BBs 
dull trellis
i mean those shots are usually shot at the main fleet right? Which don't move
in pvp
velvet adder
And it is completely useless in PvE, which I'm fairly certain is not intended
dull trellis
and if they added a homing mechanic to her shots it could be said she's overpowered then
velvet adder
Nobody asks them to home in
dull trellis
thats the only way they'd be able to hit a fast moving vanguard
velvet adder
The solutions are simple and already described up there - remove the "must target farthest target" clause, or speed up the bullets to the point where they CAN hit a faraway moving target.
dull trellis
i think they move at that pace because of the arch their shot at
velvet adder
There's precedent for the first one, too. Just look at Scharnhorst. 
dull trellis
shes not in EN so i can't use whoever that is as reference
velvet adder
AP bullets are already faster than HE ones, so that doesn't matter much.
Scharnhorst has a very similar skill to Warspite, but her barrage just goes for a random target. Guess which shipfu sees more use, lolicons notwithstanding
dull trellis
plus i use quad cannons on her so i don't really have much problem hitting the enemy
velvet adder
quads
dull trellis
even when i used explosive shells which had two shots i still hit
velvet adder
That's not what we're talking about
dull trellis
how often that was im not sure tho
velvet adder
Leaving aside for a moment just how shit quads are, Warspite's barrage is independent of her guns
velvet adder
It fires every 15s and it's two auto-critting AP shells, heading for the farthest available target - and since it's always the farthest she goes for, she misses all the time.
Alright, so what?
dull trellis
i said the so-what
velvet adder
I don't see how that helps Warspite's case
velvet adder
"warspite's skill doesn't hit"
"I can hit with HE though_
dull trellis
that means her skill hits...
velvet adder
Except it doesn't
dull trellis
but it did?
velvet adder
On stationary targets
dull trellis
ok thats who their meant for
velvet adder
It's not
dull trellis
how is it not meant for the main fleet which contains the farthest units on the map
velvet adder
And even if it were, it shouldn't be like that
dull trellis
at the start of battle
it obviously means you get an extra shot at the main fleet until their knocked out
velvet adder
Because it doesn't fucking work for the main portion of the game, PvE
It's not complicated
velvet adder
"And it is completely useless in PvE, which I'm fairly certain is not intended"
dull trellis
you clearly stated that you know its not intended for PvE
velvet adder
If you'd just read
dull trellis
so the conversation went PvP
velvet adder
Instead of running your mouth
velvet adder
Er
dull trellis
if you were focusing on PvE then you should have shut down the PvP portion of this conversation
cause i believed we were both clear that PvE was not the intention for her skill
velvet adder
We have a skill thst works (Scharnhorst) and one that doesn't (Warspite).
dull trellis
stop
using scharnhorst
as far as im concerned she doesn't exist in the game
and is an outlier
i don't know who that is
velvet adder
This reasoning makes no sense
dull trellis
so i cannot relate to that example
velvet adder
I described how she works
velvet adder
Then what's so hard to understand? She clearly works, she hits shit unlike Warspite
dull trellis
she hits randoms
and doesnt have a clear objective like warspites skill
you know what heres something
velvet adder
Which is GOOD
dull trellis
if it doesnt change in the main version of the game CN
then its not going to change here
velvet adder
Because if you can't speed up that fucking barrage, at least have it hit something that's not too far to be hit
low stump
Does it really matter if it didn't change (yet) in CN? This is the suggestion channel where we forward what we think should be fixed or added to the game. And it is plenty clear that outside of PvP, Warspite's skill is useless
velvet adder
She's been a meme since about one or two months after CN
velvet adder
what the fuck has that got anything to do with the point
dull trellis
the Executive branch
velvet adder
Look, if you're just going to troll, you can do so elsewhere
dull trellis
how am I trolling
velvet adder
Either you give me a good reason for which this skill is fine as it is, when it clearly isn't, or you can leave
dull trellis
because
it give you another shot
at the main fleet
i've said that so many times
thats the clear reason its there
warspite is strong
velvet adder
only works for PvP
completely useless in PvE
velvet adder
It doesn't matter if that shot doesn't hit
dull trellis
her skill is aimed at the vangaurd
low stump
In PvP, but this is a PvE game and she is beyond redeemable in what is the majority of the game is suppose to be about.
velvet adder
And a skill that only works in one section of the game is a bad fucking skill, no matter how you slice it
low stump
That has been YWiS!'s point this entire time
dull trellis
you understand that its great for PvP
velvet adder
Hallefuckinglujah
dull trellis
so PvE is the issue
velvet adder
He saw the light at last
dull trellis
ok then we're done she devestates in PvE even if her skill is "useless" so i don't have anything to add in that direction
dull trellis
no...I'm not
low stump
How in the hell does missing her target considered "devastating"? In any sense?
naive cobalt
stop
dull trellis
ok i value your opinion and will not try to change your views
however
i belive she works fine
and thats my view
and im done
i dont have anything else to add here
velvet adder
All BB work "fine", all BB tend to have similar statlines and it's normal for their shelling to blow things up - it's the skills that make or break them
And in Warspite's case, it breaks her to the point where even Nevada would be a better alternative
Even a bad skill is better than no skill, and she's left with no skill in PvE (save for those rare occasions when there is a stationary boss, which is basically just 8-4 and... 11-something, maybe 11-3)
Again, I call for either the removal of the "must always fire at farthest target" part of her skill (making it similar to Scharnhorst's), or speeding up her shots enough that they can reliably hit moving targets (as Massachusetts kind of already does).
devout meadow
Well this is just one example of "rarity does not equal quality" no?
low stump
She is the prime example of rarity does not equal quality.
devout meadow
No pal, the prime example should be sandy
It's not that Warspite is useless. She's just niche
Just like Sandy who's only good for anti-air
velvet adder
It's not a niche that should exist, "only being useful in PvP"
olive wadi
But that's just, like, your opinion, man.
devout meadow
There are lots of other BBs to choose from anyway, including Nevada 
velvet adder
So what, should we let a skill that doesn't work get away with it just because there are better units?
olive wadi
I mean, I really like Langley. She's my highest level unit and a couple days away from being retrofit. However, I have never use her in a battle because there are much better CVL's out there.
velvet adder
Okay, and? (I think she's fine, anyway, she's a bit of a discount Lusty with a CVL-rush niche to her)
devout meadow
The fact that there are tons of other viable ships means that there is no urgency in improving one particular ship
olive wadi
Just saying all because a skill doesn't work for you, doesn't mean it needs to be changed. She's meant for PvP. So use her for PvP and some one else for PvE.
devout meadow
The game's main focus isn't Balance anyway
olive wadi
Heck, if you want to talk about skills. Enterprise's Lucky E is so overpowered for PvP that I've had entire fleets sunk by her alone. However, that's the point of her skill. I can't complain if I choose not to go the easy route and use her.
velvet adder
Great example, thanks
Big E works for both PvP and PvE.
Warspite works for PvP only.
It is blindingly obvious she's not fine as it is, and this just makes it all the clearer.
olive wadi
Well, Lucky E doesn't work for PvE very well. "Cause you can't battle with a backrow only. So, if she's the last one standing it doesn't matter. However, the 2X damage does help.
devout meadow
velvet adder
Lucky E pulps both screens of enemies and mobs. How is her being unable to defend herself alone relevant in this? Why are you using a CV solo, too?
devout meadow
I need to know why you think it's such a big deal that a skill is useless in PvE. Many skills are situational, so what makes you think this particular situational skill is so bad?
velvet adder
This is about a skill being useful in both PvP and PvE, and Enterprise's clearly is. It even lets her evade incoming BB barrages, for crying out loud
devout meadow
True, Enterprise is a bad comparison imo
olive wadi
When Enterprise launches an airstrike: 40% (70%) chance to deal double damage and evade all incoming attacks for 8 seconds. (Both effects trigger at the same time.) I'm just saying that the main reason she's good for PvPisn't just 2X damge, it's the fact that she takes ZERO damage for 8 seconds. Making her the best surviving ship of the entire fleet. Which doesn't matter in PvE. 'Cause of you vanaguard goes down, you're done.
velvet adder
What's this got anything to do with Warspite?
In PvE the x2 damage matters, a lot
It's the main reason why people use her, and with good reason
olive wadi
But it's better for PvP. The exact problem you have with Warspite.
velvet adder
And spoiler alert, later on she becomes PvE-only as the Foxes overshadow her massively in PvP
And she still sees use
@olive wadi No, the issue is that Warspite is useless in PvE and hardly great in PvP either.
naive cobalt
you're all just repeating same thing over and over
devout meadow
I'm with YWiS on buffing Warspite 
naive cobalt
you made your points, now go discuss meta somewhere else
olive wadi
I was waiting for you to show up. I'll take my leave now. My apologies.
devout meadow
But if we're going to make it come true, there needs to be a reason why being useless in PvE is sooo bad otherwise devs will just overlook it
velvet adder
I have issues with many skills, especially the blue ones - but we gotta start somewhere, and few ships are more obviously in need of help than Warspite, so I figured we might as well start from there.
Being useless in the core of your game sounds like a pretty good reason, if you ask me. And besides, devs have listened in the past to fair criticisms - how do you think Warspite is even able to defend herself against fireboats?
naive cobalt
you think Navi will put every argument you've made into spreadsheet?
or just "Warspite underpowered in pve"?
naive cobalt
you can try
velvet adder
No, I'll just DM him with a short summary. Or ping him with the first statement on the subject.
velvet adder
"Hate the kit, not the ship"
devout meadow
Let's hope she gets that buff. I'll be happy if she does
velvet adder
So would I. And if it goes well, maybe we'll tackle the poor blue skills, who are almost universally bad (self-heals aside)
sour monolith
I think they really used wrong words here
low stump
No. They definitely did for sure. It implies you get 7 chances whereas it really means 7 missions. 
olive wadi
Yeah, not the best word choices going on there.
sour monolith
But most people would think it's kinda of a lootbox thing with 7 attempts
sour monolith
Should've been "complete 7 daily quests to get the rare skin"
olive wadi
Indeed. Like, spend a ton of money. Or ya ain't getin' it.
low stump
Per day they will release a mission that you complete. By the end of the 7th day, you get Yamashiro's skin.
Ignore the start date they provided
earnest shadow
so the 8.30 is the day it starts?
velvet adder
Yis
earnest shadow
i see now, cause the (PDT) after it threw me off
also, i go to Missions, then event right?
low stump
When it releases you can also go through via the event banner.
earnest shadow
i see the banner, and i clicked on it and it sent me to see the login streak, level rewards, and monthly check in
low stump
That just means it isn't out yet. 
low stump
The start date they gave is wrong
summer marsh
With no info on when the game will release worldwide and creating time limited events, I really hope you'll give region-locked players a chance to get them. Otherwise it's a great way to alienate a great portion of community. (And no, getting around region lock is not a proper event release.)
velvet adder
JP/CN have periodic reruns, usually with the addition of new content when they swing back.
digital bone
the rolling numbers for the fuel cost could be better off as static numbers since most people probably speed through the menu. i have to remind myself not to click as fast when i want to check cost even though i know where to look.
ruby crane
Hello
ornate basin
yo
ruby crane
Cant send pic here ?
ornate basin
you should be able to
ruby crane
When i was done downloading he app the in game download file .. Im always stuck in 35/513
My eng so bad
ornate basin
its fine
im not very experienced with dl issues
ruby crane
topaz plaza
@ruby crane go to @announcements
ornate basin
there is an APK that lets you download
topaz plaza
Can they add modren ships in the game not just the WW2 ?
raven crater
@velvet adder @naive cobalt @dull trellis @devout meadow @olive wadi I think Five-O's suggestion is fine. Sure it's not a high priority and it might not be implemented but game balance is a legitimate critique.
@topaz plaza Uhh... I mean I guess we'll get PR ships eventually which sort of counts but I'm not sure that adding modern ships really keeps with the theme of hte game
topaz plaza
I see.. Thanks for replying @raven crater
timid trench
will there be a night commissions time changes for lexington(SEA) and future servers to a more fitting time to accommodate their timezone?
hoary berry
here's a rather humorous misspelling that might want to be changed
Ajax is saying "prostate" instead of "prostrate"
topaz plaza
I think the game won't lose the theme.. if the story is complete you can add a second part for the story with modern ships
Thus, will keep players playing this game.. with the coming of new players
Just add a factory or pool( I don't know what I should call it lol) for modern
Ship
ornate basin
well the theme is WW2 ships, with modern ships being more powerful, it might ruin the flow of using WW2 ships
topaz plaza
As for the power.. just balance them
Trust me @ornate basin most of the players playing this game for cute girls in it.. almost no one playing it for strategic way.. or just ships
olive wadi
Don't doubt our love for WWII technology.
topaz plaza
In this way you can add more cute girls lol
ornate basin
I know there are a handful of people playing for the ships, the ladies being a benefit
topaz plaza
I'm not @olive wadi.. I'm suggest to have more ships with balanced power
ornate basin
including myself 
topaz plaza
I see.. I didn't expect
hoary berry
was my comment put in the wrong chat or should i have put it in bug reports?
topaz plaza
Lol
ornate basin
you put it in the right spot
olive wadi
I think the main thing that draws us to WWII ships is the history behind them. Many of the aspects of the girls are based on their history.
hoary berry
ok cool
ornate basin
just make sure you report it instead of just dumping it here
yes and it makes them even better
hoary berry
report it in game?
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topaz plaza
I'm saying the game going to become more fun..
ornate basin
honestly I think its just a thing that time will tell
hoary berry
idk any modern ships anyways
ornate basin
im not against it, but the theme is WW2, so if modern ships arent ever implemented it makes sense
topaz plaza
Sure.. wait and hope..
olive wadi
shrugs I like it as is, but this isn't the place for debate. (Something I tend to do until a Mod tells me to stop)
ornate basin
well this is the feedback channel for the game
I feel players should be able to give their input on ideas as well
topaz plaza
I respect that too.. many of the games I played that I was giving suggest but I've never found an ear.. which will lead me to leave that game!! Even they don't discuss
pseudo maple
would this count as game feedback? Account bind other than SNS (Facebook and Twitter) is direly needed, preferably bind method from the dev themselves, GFL with their Sunborn ID as per example
ornate basin
yeah
pseudo maple
as it has been getting harder to put trust onto most sns nowadays
ornate basin
I mean that definitely wouldn’t be a bug report haha
its been suggested multiple times already though
pseudo maple
huh, then here's to hoping all those rants would reach the devs and they would implement it
Would like to be able to play the game on both emu and phone
ornate basin
@topaz plaza dw I dont think modern ships has actually been suggested, I was referring to DChara
topaz plaza
(Act like no one saw it) 😂 😂 
ornate basin
normal vine
the buttons to sync your account (on the start screen) should be labeled somehow to make that obvious
I thought those were for the usual "click here for our facebook/twitter/whatever" links
frail epoch
I think they are, I never need to push them to log in
naive cobalt
it's for logging in account after reinstalling
naive cobalt
Small suggestion: displaying requirements for commission somewhere on the screen when choosing ships.
It's not hard to remember but will be nice to have.
On the same note: maybe "Join Event" a bit misleading.
outer hazel
After retrofin Hammann gets name "Hammann Variant". I think it looks realy weird becous Hammann is ship of Sims class.
frail epoch
Just call her Hamman 2.0
outer hazel
and generic ship has also variant in their names, so Hammann is now generic npc ship?
frail epoch
Also, there is this thing in settings called custom names, what does it do? You can't rename ships that I know of
outer hazel
you can, go in dock
frail epoch
How? The option is on in settings, I tap the name and nothing happens
frail epoch
Oh... Well flip
There really should be a description for this options
At least the others, what does Identical Ships even do?
naive cobalt
(still no idea what is "ship buzz")
frail epoch
It probably sends a notification if you build a new ship
Time to test!
Ok, Auto Battle Alert plays a weird sound and vibrates phone when finish an auto battle
small granite
Ship buzz vibrates your phone on auto when you get a new ship, Identical ships shows the full art intro with a repeat girl shows up if I remember.
dim drift
wth
they overcharged me
by 9.99 for the SAME
PACK
this is basically
extortion at this point
broken wing
Have you contact Support? @dim drift
dim drift
I contacted them before about the bugged gems
this new issue I saw today
after looking at my statements
and the response i get for the gems?
"Soon"
that's it
5 days since then nothing has happened
no response after I asked when it would happen
@broken wing
I guess I have to make another letter about the overcharge
and then get the same response
of "soon"
broken wing
Unfortunately thats the only way but its very strange to be charged again. Did you receive your gems when you paid for the first time
dim drift
Yes
I received it the moment I paid
And this morning I checked the statement and got overcharged 9.98
frail epoch
Not sure how your bank statements work but it could be bank charges,aybe ITunes tax? Still, $9 in charges and tax, that's a lot
dim drift
Hell no
I got to head off now work
But I’ll read what you have to say after I’m back
raven crater
@naive cobalt Ships are pre-filtered to show eligible ships by type, so really the only other thing you need to remember is the minimum level requirement which I don't think is a big deal.
@outer hazel I think because it's supposed to be the translation of "Hamman Kai" (Hamman Custom or Hamman Retrofit). But I could suggest that they use something besides "Variant"
outer hazel
yep, Variant looks really horrible
frail epoch
Hamman 2.0! Hamman Up! Hamman ... Something. Just put an icon or something that shows it's a variant
raven crater
@dim drift Yeah I know you mentioned this in bug reports but I've only seen one other person report being massively overcharged, and it was because the shop is only showing prices in USD (or at least it was last I checked). Two other people were overcharged by one dollar for $39.99 pack but that's all I've seen.
frail epoch
The first pack was charged right for $79.99 which is the most expensive so I guess they paid with USD and got overcharged, maybe a statement error? Should check current balance
raven crater
This would definitely be the first time I've heard of someone getting charged the correct amount and then the incorrect amount
hoary robin
Is there way to take screenshots of the game?
naive cobalt
Depends on your phone
I recommend you googling "%your phone model% how to take screenshots"
brazen light
There needs to be a disclaimer on skins that gives details on what they come with, especially when they may or may not come with voiced lines. What’s even the point of turning your ship into a mute just for a skin, I’d rather it just stay with the original voiced lines rather than none at all
ornate basin
I’d turn my ship into a mute for a skin
naive cobalt
Secretaries can become pretty annoying when they repeat same line every minute over and over, so I'll take it
(but they should have voice regardless)
eternal trench
@frail epoch
New Ship Buzz - phone vibrates when you construct a SSR
Identical Ships - turning off will skip the ship introduction on ships dropped from stages. it will still show the intro when you get an elite or higher for the first time in a stage
muted current
@raven crater I'm fairly sure this is completely mistranslated, and should be "I've gotta try my best!" or something like that rather...didn't see it in the known translation issues, so if you want to add it? (Shropshire's skill voice line in the archive)
raven crater
@muted current Sure but in the future you can use #bug-reports for translations that are completely wrong or inaccurate. Feedback translation is more like "This mostly makes sense but would be better as ___"
naive cobalt
And don't forget to actually report it
muted current
Right, will do. Wasn't sure which one it should be in, tbh. And reported it already.
velvet adder
can we have more filters for guilds? i think having best-casual and azur lane-crimson axis aren't enough to search for guilds, would be great if they added like "full" or a filter that shows guilds with slots, though my only concern is that whenever you join a guild, it instantly says "application for guild is full", can we also have expiration for the applications so they won't clog up the guild requests?
raven crater
Got it
frail epoch
Two things we might need: Mute button to mute all sounds of the game without lowering the phone volume to 0 and without going to settings and lowering all bars, and mute button or volume control for secretary voice.
frail epoch
Ok
dim drift
@raven crater all other purchases went out exactly as priced it’s just this most recent one is overcharged
frail epoch
Mine is Android, ringer is just for ringer, media is for the game but I don't really want to lower the volume cause I sometimes use split screen to watch YouTube while I Auto Battle for exp
raven crater
There are audio controls in the game
dim drift
@raven crater I went over my bank statements and calculated it all and in conclusion yes they did charge me over
raven crater
I'm not telling you you're wrong
I'm just telling you that I think it's mainly a "you" problem
raven crater
Well, in a couple days from now I think the staff will be back online here and hopefully it can be resolved shortly after that
actually one day from now
raven crater
there's no point in sending another email if you sent one on friday
dim drift
i never sent one about today's issue tho
raven crater
I can almost assure you that no one has looked at it yet because they don't work weekends
dim drift
only about the gems
raven crater
ah, ok.
olive wadi
Really? I've haven't seen one, yet. Kinda curious now.
empty spoke
They're clips of a streamer screaming about his boat construction
I get the feeling they were used without permission
It paints the wrong kind of image for the game
naive cobalt
I'm sure it was with permission, because this streamer on this server if I remember correctly that ad
You mean this one? https://clips.twitch.tv/ThoughtfulObliqueSkirretBrainSlug
west nymph
During loading screen, there is one tips about formation that says "..., wheel formation improve aircraft performance"
I'm pretty much sure it should be "Anti-Aircraft performance" ?
naive cobalt
It was reported, yes
naive cobalt
I'm going to sleep now anyway
raven crater
@empty spoke I don't think you're the only one to complain about the youtube ads, but they are used with permission as that streamer is on this server and working with Yostar to promote the game. But I'll let them know your thoughts
ornate basin
wow haha that is a bit obnoxious
why not use this https://twitter.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1019051669600866305?s=20
the graphics I think are enough to keep some users watching unlike a screaming excited man
sweet wraith
Keep getting this, both usung data/wifi, with or without vpn, pls help
velvet adder
same
earnest yew
same with me
sweet wraith
Same
Data/wifi, vpn or not, reinstalled, restarted router, nothing works
Still stuck at akagi kaga screen network error
slate field
@ornate basin that trailer is so much better than the streaming ad
ruby pewter
the streaming ad made quite some people not play AL xD
elder cloud
well it says there's a problem on Indonesian server @sweet wraith @velvet adder @earnest yew
when i use wi fi
but works well at data
sweet wraith
think the problem was the game apk, that was the apk posted in #server-news
it works when i download it with playstore
elder cloud
🤔
thick relic
"omosakura" that is wrong, it should be "Sakura empire", also even if they were trying to use the jp pronunciation that isn't how those Kanjis are read
I don't know who they mean by white hawk
velvet adder
@elder cloud are u using indihome isp ?
thick relic
OK, by white hawk they were talking about the eagle union Girls, in jp Ise just call them Union
frail epoch
Maybe your phone has an app or feature that restricts data to Azur Lane
Or just download it from Google Play with no vpn or stuff, works for me on Android
frail epoch
Why can't you play with WiFi? Mine works with mobile data and wifi
frail epoch
Like, your internet ISP is having problems?
The Indonesian game servers?
If it's just that, change regions, that should work
frail epoch
If other apps work with mobile data and wifi that means the problem is the game unless something in your phone blocks data use from this app like a battery saver or data saver
If there is no data restriction then either change phone/Google play regions or change game server
left walrus
FYI for Indonesian players, 3 works pretty fine, you just need to sometimes restart the mobile data if you get stuck on version checking.
You juat have to worry about 3's weak signal that's all
coral patio
Hi could the commission be sorted by time left? thanks
raven crater
Got it ruler
hasty gyro
Not sure if this is a feedback or bug thing but... in an earlier build of the game I was able to copy/paste my Apple password in when buying gems
Since I use a password vault, the apparently recent change to this makes it difficult to re-enter credentials for purchases. Not sure if that could be looked at (am on an iPhone 6S fwiw)
upbeat bone
XL didnt work and my indiehome too i need to find working ip by restarting router again and again which is pain in the ass
upbeat bone
u can use vpn like mine atm
naive cobalt
Can you at least speak english?
wintry pond
VPN not work
wintry pond
Not work
frail epoch
Maybe Nord VPN? I get so many ads about it, it must be good
winter escarp
Can we have improved functionality or the ability learning? I know there was some other suggestions with this, like basically putting a back button this point but I want to add a little thing to that. When I am at this point can we still see exp bar? I made a mistake last night using a purple book, not a blue because I couldn’t see the bar ( normally I click out to see it to make sure I’m upgrading what I want but I do not think I should be having to do that )
naive cobalt
It was suggested
winter escarp
Ah I wasn’t sure if this part was suggested as well
velvet adder
Javelin's recieve line was 'fixed', now i won't get triggered anymore everytime she drops, i am not sure if this is the right channel to say it, but thank you
ornate basin
an option to disable and enable world chat at free will?
other than going to another tab
because world chat will just reopen itself next time you log on
theres tons of disgusting conversations going on about the ship girls and its kinda repulsive its definitely driven me away from the world chat feature
i.e. inappropriate inevitable discussion, offensive terms, and insane amounts of lewding
dusk dust
can't you hit the icon in the bottom left to turn it off?
velvet adder
looks like it does
raven crater
Yeah that was one of the first things I did tbh
ornate basin
I wish I remembered it sooner
storm quartz
I already made a bug report, but I guess it doesn't hurt to ask here directly. I recently came back to Azur Lane JP and to a problem I hadn't had before: I am unable to send girls to do commissions in spite of fulfilling the requirements. I also got a similar message when I try to claim certain stuff from my mailbox.
clear heron
this is for the en version, but this just might be a desync issue. restart the game, since the game might think the mission is there and doesn't know it's already expired.
ornate basin
give me a second jp player here
storm quartz
I did that, hell, I uninstalled and reinstalled and nope still stuck
ornate basin
it says something about your fuel being “restricted”
I think you should ask the other server
as this is for EN and we actually cant help your jp report
#welcome has the discord invite to the other server
which as a jp-general and a help channel
storm quartz
First time I've ever heard of "restricted fuel" but hey, thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
ornate basin
of course
naive cobalt
I get what it's supposed to mean, but wording can be better lol
Also, I remember talking with someone about that, but name of the skill looks like a mistake/mistranslation
ornate basin
torpedo damage?
naive cobalt
it also can be misleading depending on how calculations work
It doesn't increase damage, but her Torpedo stat
olive wadi
What ship is this skill on?
naive cobalt
Ayanami
Also, I remember talking with someone about that, but name of the skill looks like a mistake/mistranslation
I remember making an argument, that from chinese her skill can be translated like this, but considering in the translation she IS called "Demon", that's how it should be called
Or not "Demon", I forgot exact name
Demon God or something
I'm going to report skill's name, but not sure, maybe wording of it can be left as a suggestion?
olive wadi
She's called The Demon of Solomon 'cause of the number of ships she managed to sink/damage in such a short time in a certain battle. So, having a skill referencing that name makes sense. Better than "Supernatural" anyway.
naive cobalt
I mean in the game she calls herself "Demon" so I'm basing on that
It should be at least consistent
clear heron
considering laffey's skill is solomon's god, solomon's demon seems like it'd be a nice contrasting skill.
olive wadi
Yeah, the original name for the skill referenced the demon nickname.
That makes perfect sense.
I like that idea.
obtuse folio
Does this game care about emulators? I went to use my twitter to log into it as my current phone is out of commission and got this message
naive cobalt
Just press Confirm
If you had any progress on an emulator - it would've been erased by you logging in
That's what it says
obtuse folio
so you can't log into another device at all?
naive cobalt
you can
obtuse folio
as it was on my phone
olive wadi
As long as your account is bound to Twitter you can play on as many devises as you want. Including emulators. All without losing progress.
naive cobalt
Only log-in on a title screen tho
Only there
You will overwrite your account, if you do it from the options, so don't do that
olive wadi
Long story short: Hit the confirm, button. All will be fine.
obtuse folio
ok thanks, it was worded in a way that it seemed it may reset my account and put it on my new device or something
olive wadi
Yeah, I was confused as well the first time I saw it. Dunno if there's a better way to word it.
naive cobalt
Yeah, maybe it can be reworded a little
Like "You will lose your current progress in this device..."
olive wadi
"Do you want to override current device progress with a previous account?"
Something like that.
naive cobalt
Works better, yea
tacit jacinth
Can we have an option to allow players from server Lexington to transfer data to server Avrora?
naive cobalt
wanton frost
They have been playing less than a week, just change servers and start over if you really want to be with the OP people who started in the begining
tacit jacinth
i know that already, but the option to transfer the data would be nice
naive cobalt
OP people who started in the begining
The difference is like... a week. Two maybe.
wanton frost
That's enough to hit 100 and get a bunch of +9 or 10 gear.
But yea, the difference is not huge. We'll all get there eventually.
raven crater
@obtuse folio What it's saying is that if you login via FB or Twitter, you will overwrite the account on your device with the one you're logging in with.
I've suggested that it be changed to something else but it's hard to think of good phrasing for it
soft helm
I don't know if anyone already report this
But it was written maximun instead of maximum
On the right bottom text
Or should I report this in bug report?
velvet adder
the guild name change confirmation is still in Japanese
and it says code instead of guild name
ornate basin
@soft helm yeah been reported
velvet adder
Ah well, since we're here, there's another boat in need of fixing (not available in EN).
HMS Abercrombie is currently the worst Monitor becuause of her firing quirk, where her shots 'start' from her turret - which is on her head, which is a decent bit higher than the middle of the screen, which means both her secondary gunfire and her barrage are off-centre, causing her to miss parts of her barrage and, more importantly, not being able to stop fireboats on the lower side of the screen.
This is not a bug, as I am fairly convinced this was intentional on their part - but more of an unplanned side effect. Nevertheless, it does need fixing.
left walrus
Where can I sent mispelling reports
ornate basin
!bugreport
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earnest shadow
For the Guilds, I would say, add a guild shop, and the currency is the activity points. Also try thinking of something like guild wars and guild ranks. The reason i say this is because there is nothing for guilds and thats kind of sad 😰
Oh, I also forgot, add a way to add those in all chat, its really inconvenient that I, a Vice-Admiral in my guild, to get members into the guild, and in details, show what guild he/she is in
frail epoch
The currency can't be the activity points otherwise some commoner will waste all of it
Guild wars and ranks will surely come in some future big update, this still pretty much a test run off Azur Lane, compared to the JP version it might be missing a lot
earnest shadow
then some currency that is not coins and exclusive from doing things for the guild
frail epoch
The game has coins, gems and merit to buy stuff soooo.... I don't know
What would the shop even sell?
If it sells the same as the current shops, then it's pretty useless. Skins have their shop so I guess a gear skin shop with Azur Lane or Crimson Axis themes. Maybe make a guild dorm where each user can put their secretary in and the shop sells furniture or stuff to dress your girl, I don't know
earnest shadow
well, then if there is nothing like a shop or something, there would be no benefit to be in a guild, then why have one?
even if they add guild wars, there is still no point in being in one if it doesnt benefit anyone
frail epoch
There could be prizes for the top number of guilds
Like a seasonal tournament and when the tournament ends you get a coin, gem and maybe girls/equipment prizes
raven crater
@frail epoch @earnest shadow JP doesn't really have anything for guilds either. There's a lot they could do with them though.
frail epoch
Oh, well flip
raven crater
People have suggested guild raid/wars and things of that nature but to be honest I have no idea what their plans are
frail epoch
Live battles might be power hungry or too heavy for the game, seeing how there is no live pvp
Building a kingdom or base to raid might not be original so leveling up and collecting activity points to rank up and win some tournament is all that can be done. Similar to the seasonal exercises rank
earnest shadow
well, oof
snow juniper
Hmm, what if the soviet cruisers could call in air support from land?Either by equipping aircraft such as fighters, dive bombers, torpedo bombers instead of Torps/Secondaries, or as trainable skills
or as barrages gained by LB-ing them
frail epoch
Carriers handle planes, cruisers are also vanguard
snow juniper
on the other hand the soviets had land-based naval aviation support and generally focused on shore protection / shore support operations (Leningrad, Kronstad, Sevastopol, Odessa)
raven crater
We only have one russian ship, which is Avrora
But maybe there could be a skill like "every X shots of main weapon, Y% chance to instantly reload random carrier airstrike"
earnest shadow
is avrora only exclusive to CBT's or eventually you guys will add another way to get her
naive cobalt
she will be part of the event at some point
earnest shadow
also is Yamato in JP servers?
ornate basin
no
snow reef
uh I'm not sure if this suggestion's been made before(but a quick search on the doc doesn't show anything related to it) but maybe the retire screen could show how many ships you currently have/your max to make it easier to know how many you need to retire
valid flare
Don't see anything about it on the feedback sheet. A nice QOL change regarding commissions could be an option to repeat the same commission with the same ships with a single button press.
frail epoch
An option to make groups/sets of ships would be good
naive cobalt
commissions are different, you can't "repeat" them
velvet adder
maybe make it so that guilds can form alliances between different guilds?
naive cobalt
for the purpose of?..
rough vortex
Improvement suggestion here
I propose the auto battle be completely auto
Such as you would set the AI to run for X amount of battles
and you could add cutoffs after a certain amount of items/ships are gathered
Currently only the fighting is automatically done
you still have to target enemies and such
with the improved auto battle you only have to set the parameters and keep the device on
assuming your storage doesnt fill up
naive cobalt
I'd give you the same answer Navi gave to me: "It'll change the balance of the game too much and not really the direction devs want this game to go"
frail epoch
The point is to play the game, why would you want it to do all itself? You need to touch your girls!
raven crater
@rough vortex I know Restart gave you the short version, but yes an "improved autobattle" that would navigate your ships and repeat the maps etc. would completely defeat the purpose of the game. It would turn it into more of an idle game than a "real" game. It also would open the door to more grind heavy content because hey, the player doesn't even need to play the game anymore so if they're just going to do that then why bother making anything progression based?
I've seen this happen with Brave Frontier where you CAN actually auto repeat a quest, and they end up making every event a "repeat this quest 1000000 times to get tokens to trade for stuff." And yeah Azur Lane has that, but it also has a more in-depth gameplay system which is to its credit. I think enabling auto to that degree would actually make the game more boring, even as it makes it more convenient.
rough vortex
Alright, all of that is fair points and good reasoning
and I also agree with most of it
I still think if it was implemented the game would still be fun
but as you pointed out it would be overpowered unless maybe you added some sort of limitations to it 🤔
Maybe a cost besides oil per run?
some games have sorts of auto tickets
sorry if im chat spamming btw
raven crater
Hmm... maybe...
Idk I just feel like if "Let's make it so people have to play the game less" is a viable solution to something you're kind of approaching the problem from the wrong angle.
rough vortex
Well what if you earned Full Auto Battle tickets from daily missions?
clear heron
isn't there also a thing in jp/cn that let's you skip all the escort fleets and go straight to the boss? once that probably get's implemented into EN, it' be quick to run through the fuel you want for the day
rough vortex
well that would probably lead to what Navi was talking about
too much easy skippage is bad
raven crater
I think that's just for hard mode
rough vortex
earned through gameplay skippage however...
fast pasture
I don't think the issue of limiting that sort of auto play should be solved by adding in another sort of currency to commissions (god knows people already get slain by auto finishes).
if anything, if it were to be added, I'd say a gold cost would be more suitable.
raven crater
It makes sense for hard mode because 1) you have a limited number of tries per day and 2) your target is going to be blueprints, which only drop from the boss and 3) you can only get that functionality once you 3* the map and reduce the danger level to zero
rough vortex
Gacha so like a cost per auto run?
Would give use to all the coins some players have just laying around
raven crater
That kind of makes sense because at least it limits you... maybe it could also increase per run? So the more you stop to restart it yourself the cheaper it is?
fast pasture
I say just having a high initial cost would be the way to do so, since you already have autobattle
you want enhanced autobattle? Pay the fee
rough vortex
with coins or a special type of ticket?
raven crater
Coins or oil or gems directly OR you can exchange them for "tickets" maybe from the supply shop.
rough vortex
Yeah
I think the ways to obtain these FAT (Full Auto Tickets) would be via the store or missions
raven crater
There's a lot of ways to do it, but I think somehow penalizing and limiting the use of an "enhanced autobattle" is the best compromise, especially since it prevents people and the game balance from relying too heavily on that feature
rough vortex
100% with you
raven crater
I need to get ready for bed, but I'll backread this channel in the morning per usual
fast pasture
the best way I can think of how to balance the idea is to have thresholds for the given levels (such as they do for hardmode) and force you to meet them by putting ships in (probably much more than what the stage would require otherwise), and have the oil cost be fixed but scaled off of that stage and around 1.5x-3x the amount you would need to clear that stage normally, and impose a timer scaled off of the level of that stage to lock the ships you have doing them.
and along with that only have a limit of 1 fleet you can send on it
that way there are no extra currencies, auto-ing a harder and potentially more rewarding stage will require many more resources than you would probably be able to do with an oil saving team, and you will still be off playing a different stage while you have that going.
tacit jacinth
@raven crater can we add an option to skip the confirm team before going to battle?
it wont violate your concept, and will make the farming more comfortable, imo
velvet adder
can we have an option to actually disable the images of the ships (especially carriers) when using the plane support skill? it's actually very distracting and often my ships get heavily damaged since i put them to the leftmost part of the screen, blocking the torps and shells that come towards that said direction
wanton frost
But using airstrikes removes all torps and shells currently on the screen to counter that.... still would be nice to remove the cut ins, imagine it would speed up farming a little bit.
naive cobalt
but airstrike cut-ins don't take any time
they're distracting, sure
but have no effect on the speed of farming
wanton frost
Yea I guess the airstrike ones dont. But the battleship ones do for sure.
Guess that's why airstrikes clear bullets but battleship shelling doesn't.
calm jetty
Option to delete voice data thank
velvet adder
it wouldnt boost up the time for farming since i just suggested to remove the sprite of the carrier when you use the air support skill
i didnt suggest the removal of the cut-in for bb/bc skill
cyan sigil
Can we have a new payment option called mol points, its kinda popular with teens for making in game purchases. Since it doesnt requires a credit card and such.
:d
wanton frost
I mean, prepaid itunes and googleplay cards exist. What does this company bring to the table to make it worth accepting transactions from them?
timid trench
i saw that JP has a niconico skin and CN has bilibili. will EN have its own streaming collab? maybe twitch or youtube? 
versed saddle
With the EU release, in case they complain about censorship, I'm hoping that the rest of EN doesn't receive the backlash. This is what I've been fearing for an EU release.
raven crater
@tacit jacinth you suggested it already. Therefore I recorded it lol. You don't need to suggest it again
@wanton frost I don't think the CG cutins and the fact that battleship battery fire slows down the game are related. I imagine disabling CG cutins would be simple enough but "not slowing down the game" would probably be a separate functionality
But I can still add a suggestion for disabling CG cutins if you find them distracting
velvet adder
I didn't see anything about this, but will the devs add an option someday to link/bind the account to one's google play/ios accounts?
velvet adder
Thanks!
bleak vale
devout nacelle
Bismarck event - suggestion?
*Opens around time Bismarck was sunk IRL
*Limited time window, perhaps a week or less
*Entire idea is suppose to be a even worse grind then 3-4
*0.05-0.5 % drop rate
*Secondary drops could be German starter or Prinz Eugen
*Ironblood crates
*10-15 random fleets before boss starts
*Hood gets 1 shot (not really just a meme)
bleak vale
We won't have bismarck before CN and JP in my opinion
How about suggesting this to Manjuu?
velvet adder
Manjuu is the company
summer quail
Don't forget to learn their language first
wanton frost
You could, but it doesn't seem to be anything special or unique to the idea. I'm sure they have plenty of ideas internally if they really wanted to release Bismark.
livid vapor
Google Translation
devout nacelle
True @wanton frost, I would probably have to make it much more unique and appealing
velvet adder
@velvet adder BB/C/M cut-ins have an integrated slow-down mechanic, taking it apart might be harder than it looks and, I suspect, hamper their performance in the process
yeah, but that's not what i actually suggested since it's already part of the game, i just wanted the character sprites to not show up on air support skill activation since its very distracting and it overlaps the left part of the screen
That'd be nice. What I'd really like is some sort of toggle for the skill activation lines
wanton frost
Don't you want to hear how kawaii Indy-chan is for the 1 millionth time?
velvet adder
Hey are you guy gonna add Yamato In the game she is a Legendary Battleship
wanton frost
The question is more will JP or CN add Yamato to the game... in which case... maybe? Although chances are fairly high it will be a npc/event/story unit instead of something for players kinda like Bismark. Anything is possible though.
tacit jacinth
A new benefit feature beside guild chat would be nice in the future. Like using guild point/gold/equipment box donate to unlock/lvl up extra boost like more stats in battle (except exercise), bonus loot drop chance, guild shop with random daily reward, buying items with guild points,... Etc
For guild event, maybe some thing related to conquest node/map or reach tier with X points.
Guild mission would be a good feature too.
I know that guild features arent exist in other server yet, but it doessnt hurt to give some idea
raven crater
I think that we need some clarification from Yostar or Manju first on what the development direction for guilds is going to be before we can really give meaningful suggestions for new guild related features (CC @bleak vale )
naive cobalt
If I might add - I feel like whatever benefit they may add, it shouldn't be "important" enough as to force people to join just any guild they can find, or they're "missing out" on content and rewards. Or made in such a way, that motivates people to join only big guilds, while completely abandoning small-ish ones, 'cause "they're not beneficial enough/not that active"
raven crater
I think any game that gives rewards for joining guilds, regardless of the size of the rewards both 1) "forces" people to join guilds and 2) Favors bigger guilds over smaller ones
it's just the nature of a guild feature
Guilds are "work together to achieve a goal" and it's easier to achieve a goal with more people
tacit jacinth
I agree that guild feature's reward shouldn't be too big to force ppl doing it, hence it will become a chore
raven crater
But people will feel forced to do it anyway because it exists
look at 3-4
You could make a reward for like 100 oil for sending a single guild message per day and people would be like "damn it's so annoying having to send a guild message every day"
tacit jacinth
If daily mission is "guild defeat 100 ships x0. 5 guild lvl" today, should be ez and not as a chore
Reward will be 100 gold per guild lvl (maybe) and 1 cube per 5 guild lvl
For guild event, bi-weekly or monthly, last for 1 weeks so everyone in the guild could do together
Guild's feature is for ppl can play together and it will make the guild has more meaning and fun
And some exclusive furniture reward like the collection's furniture reward. For example: big badges, cup cabinet,...
naive cobalt
Well, there is a difference between "100 oil per day if you send a message" and "exclusive guild shop and boosts for stats and droprates"as some suggest
Guild's feature is for ppl can play together and it will make the guild has more meaning and fun
But it's destructive imo if people do that just because "I'm missing out on rewards otherwise" and not because "I want to play with friends"
It's a chore then and not fun
tacit jacinth
Well, if it's similar to daily mission, just a bigger scale, it would be fine imo
And reward shouldn't be too big as I suggest above, so ppl wont feel bad for missing it
raven crater
Maybe I (or someone) can come up with a more detailed outline of what they want to see from the guild feature as an example. Like I said, it's really hard to make suggestions on the feature because it doesn't exist, so there's a lot of directions you can take it and a lot of ways to expand.
tacit jacinth
Yah, i know it's difficult to balance and satisfy players at the same time.
But seeing the devs will take a note some other update beside bug fix, i think it wont hurt giving some ideas for guild😅
New feature always take lots of time to create and balance anyway.
fast pasture
I'd honestly rather have a system where you could freely fight anyone in your guild's pvp def, just for fun and testing.
tie a daily reward to at least trying it if you want, but it's more of the fact that I like dicking around with weird stuff vs other comps but don't want to waste exercises to try them out
tacit jacinth
If for testing pvp team, a button to test fight on the profile would be better imo
So u can test fight any1, not just in guild
fast pasture
the idea was to have ego dick waving to other people in your guild, but that also works.
raven crater
Guild feature idea: fight guild member PVP fleets, auto send the idiot sticker to them when you win
tacit jacinth
To be honest, when creating guild i have to choose a side, i was both afraid and exciting to google the guild feature. To see if any Guild vs guild or guild event related to red or blue side lol
But GvG could lead to too competive or too toxic and hard to balance, so i wont suggest this. Just want to express my feelings when choosing a side
wanton frost
Oh god... I just changed to check this. Agreed, did some uncultured swine report them as a grammatical error or something?
naive cobalt
I remember someone asking about this and he got an answer about "royal 'we' "
well, at least they've fixed other mista...
light rover
are you guys going to readd the skip feature on the dialogue? it was there when i started playing JP but its been gone for a while
naive cobalt
They didn't even do a good job at that
raven crater
What's wrong with that?
naive cobalt
They removed "we" from all the lines
raven crater
or is it just inconsistent with her other lines?
naive cobalt
Except this one
raven crater
Gotcha
wooden mica
i was gonna say, it's the same with unicorn too
still got onii-chans mixed in with the big brothers
wanton frost
We're still fighting for that one, imagine they will stay mixed until some giant war gets won in a board meeting and the losing side cries while they all get changed.
wide lintel
Not a bug, but personal opinion, I think akashi's lines would be a lot more natural looking if it was written as something-nya instead of something *nyaa!*
And considering every push notification is written from her perspective, might be worth changing just for the sake of making it look cleaner.
raven crater
Gotcha
velvet adder
Another suggestion, I think a trading system would be omega cool ngl
ornate basin
afaik onii-chan will not stay no matter how hard you fight for it @wanton frost
raven crater
@velvet adder It would completely break the gacha balance and also I've set your nickname to start with 3 alphanumeric characters per the server rules.
velvet adder
Oh sorry didn’t see that rule my mistake uwu and understandable just thought it would be nice to trade ships
frail epoch
I think Akashi's Nyaa! is meant to like an onomatopoeia, a sound, like when people roleplay they put actions between quotes or symbols to pull apart from speech
wide lintel
The thing is, nobody puts nyaa between asterisks. Nyaa isn't an action, it's a sound, it should be said like the rest of the sentence.
That, or go the Ika Musume route and just change everything into cat puns.
naive cobalt
I like cat puns idea actually 
If they're getting rid of "onii-chan" they should do something about "-nyaa" as well.
Not because I dislike it, but because consistency
frail epoch
I don't feel comfortable with Akashi saying catpuns
naive cobalt
I don't mean rewriting her lines obviously, but something small like changing "my" to "meow" or something just as cringe-y
"-nya" doesn't make much sense in English unless their intention to show that she's intentionally talks the same way as anime character
frail epoch
That basically makes her a Palico from Monster Hunter
naive cobalt
Which she isn't
No idea who Palico is
But that's cliche, so I wouldn't be surprised
frail epoch
Yeah, they always say Meownster, Cattitude and other little puns
dim drift
well i meant both of them
not just akashi
lol
altering their very beings at this point
TIS TREASON
frail epoch
"We have a nice inventory this meowment commander~"
naive cobalt
They already are for quite some time
She won't have "onii-chan" in English translation as it is not English word
frail epoch
Anime weebs, Otaku, fans are used to nya and onii-chan so eh
naive cobalt
Still not in English
dim drift
man of culture
frail epoch
"Thanks for your patronage meow~!" It just doesn't feel right at this point
dim drift
but wait a min
this game was made for the otaku,fans, and anime weebs
then surely there shouldn't be such a issue lol
unless your're the easily triggered type
frail epoch
Eh, Akashi is still thirsty for my wallet, back to beating chapter 4!
naive cobalt
unless your're the easily triggered type```
Game is still in English, not "half-English half-weeb"This discussion was had a lot
I don't want to repeat myself again, sorry
ornate basin
what Restart said
high dome
@naive cobalt akashi is Japanese
Saying weeb things is acceptable for her
Unicorn is an 11-year-old British child raised in an interwar England
Onii-Chan isn't in her vocabulary
naive cobalt
Yeah, I guess
high dome
Shoukaku and akagi and some of the other ijn ships are like that
dim drift
@naive cobalt lol now that u mentioned the lines from before even after it changed still feels natural to me even tho it changed lol