#Shambles

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trail comet
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Family member got one of your computers via Amazon and it arrived missing the CPU (an i9 14900k) and the air cooler hanging loose in the case.
There are several reviews on Amazon for that product with people complaining about the same thing.
Either you are running a fucking shambolic enterprise or someone is stealing components.
Thank you, however, for ruining this kids birthday.
As clichéd as it is, he's now sitting there crying because he can't use this useless black box he saved for and spent 2.6k on.
He can't get his money back for a week and will never trust your company again.
I'm a pc gamer myself and I'm pretty unimpressed myself.

vagrant maple
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Firstly sorry for your bad experience, amazon have been operating badly by selling returned systems without checking them before reselling them cyberpower are aware and are in discussion to get it sorted. Get in touch with amazon support and they'll be able to help with a refund since the system is sold by amazon, once you return the system you'll be able to get a refund

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@pulsar sphinx @tough walrus it happened again

pulsar sphinx
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Oh dear god,

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The problem is, Amazon does not check any systems that people return to them,

vagrant maple
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It's happened with other server members which have managed to get a refund from amazon honestly don't understand why amazon aren't checking systems before reselling them again

pulsar sphinx
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The systems are all quality checked before they go to Amazon, but when someone returns a system, they do not check it before listing it for sale again.

green phoenix
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Here we go again

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Please don't blame CP for this, it's all Scamazon shitty QC

vagrant maple
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@trail comet if you could take a picture of the serial number on the back of the pc and email it to cyberpower support just so they have it on record and can help regarding amazon reselling broken systems

cold cargoBOT
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vagrant maple
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I know cyberpower are getting it sorted currently though

trail comet
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I didn't think CP would have assembled it and mysteriously forgot to put the CPU in.

Which made me think maybe someone down the delivery chain was stealing components.

His mother has been on the phone to Amazon and got a refund, but the poor kid now has to be told he's got wait till next week to reorder.
He's proper gutted.

green phoenix
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Which sucks because the refund time for Amazon could take up to 14 days 😦

trail comet
torn salmon
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If he does want to reorder it might be best to do it through the website; If he needs any assistance with that just let us know and one of us can advise

calm rampart
cold cargoBOT
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trail comet
cold cargoBOT
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tough walrus
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Shows that Amazon does not care 😢

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I won't be buying electronics from them again definitely

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Anyways because this has happened countless times getting a refund will be very easy

void quartz
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My friend had the same problem with his prebuilt. Don’t buy from Amazon buy from the actual company directly.

trail comet
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@vagrant maple thought I'd let you know that another review has gone up on that pc with exactly the same issue.
Guy called Ashley, it arrived, as my friends kid did, and the other reviews did, with the liquid cooler attachment and the exposed heat sink hanging loose and not connected... meaning another stolen CPU.
This seems like a serious issue that is happening over and over again to multiple people.
I double checked with my friend, and on Amazon it is called the Cyberpower Luxe Gaming Pc (£2,671.20).
Go see for yourself.
CP really do need to get on this as whatever is going on it's their name on the box and, ultimately, it's their reputation that will suffer as people will assume (as I did) that this an issue at your end because Amazon are just the middleman.
For one person to have this issue is unfortunate, two is a strange coincidence, but three, and then four, within the space of 4 weeks is simply not normal and statistically impossible unless there's serious issues with quality control.
I don't want to see CP blamed if they aren't responsible and if one more person is saved this ridiculous nonsense then it's worth me mentioning it.

pulsar sphinx
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Trust me, it's an ongoing issue, The computers are quality checked when they leave CPUK to be sold on Amazon, Amazon holds it and sells/ships it once ordered, It'll get sent out, the person will rip the CPU out, and then request a refund, somewhere along the lines of "Unwanted" or "Accidental Purchase" this won't trigger a check by Amazon, it'll be returned, amazon will weigh it, CPUs are so light that there won't be any significant weight decrease, and they put it straight back on stock to be sold again, the cycle repeats, Someone complains to Amazon about it, it gets sent back, they weigh it, same weight, and so it continues.
The problem is, Amazon does not check the items when they come back, they weigh it and use that.
The only way Cyberpower can do anything about it, is people start reporting the Serial Numbers to them so that they can start tracking who's getting these PCs, as Amazon just does not care.

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And ultimately, It is CPUK's reputation that gets hurt in the long run, but it's someone out there that's buying multiple of these computers, from CPUK and most likely other prebuilts on the site, and returning them all under different accounts

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It's borderline impossible to stop until Amazon starts quality checking items (as they should)

trail comet
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Yes, that's my feeling.
People will blame CP and say it's their fault and they are shipping faulty units.
I don't know what the answer is, but I guarantee you if anyone sees those reviews they will not buy that item, and may well decide not spend any money with CP full stop.

tough walrus
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CyberpowerPC UK is doing the best to solve the issue.

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They are well aware of it.

pulsar sphinx
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It's one of these things that Amazon just does not give a hoot about the sellers or customers, they just want to sell items,

trail comet
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4 people in the last few weeks with the same item is just ridiculous.
I hope CP can get some clarity from Amazon is they are losing business over this.
This kid will have a 2.6k refund soon, and he might well have spent that with CP but I'm not sure he will now.
Anyway, just wanted to pass that information on as I genuinely feel bad for anyone that has this happen.
The kid is still upset today, and if I can help somehow stop that (however small my part) I'll do it.
Cheers, guys

pulsar sphinx
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We had someone not too long ago on the discord, exact same boat as you, They sent it back to Amazon after stating it was defective, Amazon received it, and guess what? Less than an hour later it was already put back for sale on the site.

trail comet
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Disgraceful.
That's absolutely unacceptable and Amazon should be held accountable for that.

pulsar sphinx
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All I can recommend, is if he wanted to spend the money with Cyberpower (because they do sell great computers!) is do it direct via their site, Alot more customisation available, and you can rest assured knowing the PC is straight from quality control to you,

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Amazon, I just cannot recommend them anymore

trail comet
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Yes, I agree.
If I'd been more involved early on I'd have suggested that

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I suppose they trusted Amazon being such a big company and all

pulsar sphinx
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If you ask me, CyberpowerPC UK should just pull the systems from Amazon, but that's my personal opinion due to all these issues

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It'll lose them customers, yes, but ultimately they have to think about the bigger picture here,

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Amazon just shows itself to not give a crap about the consumer or the seller

trail comet
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I agree.
It's probably the only way.
I don't know if it's this specific SKU that is the issue, or there are others.

tough walrus
pulsar sphinx
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I have seen this happen to other prebuilts on the market, It seems to be a growing issue on Amazon

tough walrus
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Sorry for the spam but come on Amazon.!!

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This is only one one prebuilt

pulsar sphinx
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Because I can gurantee you, every single one of them refunded and told Amazon of the issue

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Yet guess what, same system, gets sent back out to another customer

trail comet
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So, it seems there's clearly someone making a small fortune stealing these expensive CPU, refunding and repeating the process.
You'd think that would be traceable.

tough walrus
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Thousands minimum

pulsar sphinx
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You'd think so, but obviously Amazon isn't willing to put in the man hours to do it

trail comet
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Well, the one is my friends computer was an i9 14900k, which is around 480-520 from what I can see.

tough walrus
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£550 usually 😬

trail comet
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Yeah, sounds about right.
It really makes me angry that someone is just getting away with this.

tough walrus
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We can be here to clarify any more questions but I would sort this out with CPUK directly because they can talk it out with Amazon

trail comet
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@tough walrus @pulsar sphinx well, thanks for your input, guys. Appreciate it.

tough walrus
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No worries, any more queries feel free to pop em here 🙂

trail comet
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Will do.
👍

cold cargoBOT
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pulsar sphinx
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This is from another prebuilt

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Not CPUK's

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So it does seem to be an issue across the board

tough walrus
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Atleast there is a discord server so people can gather information here

trail comet
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Yeah, someone's having a field day and Amazon are clearly totally clueless.

pulsar sphinx
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Clueless or don't care

tough walrus
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@turbid grove < first person here to report CPU missing

trail comet
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Yeah, probably. I've a good mind to tell the kid to keep the current pc after he gets his money back but I don't want to see CP lose money if they aren't at fault

tough walrus
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I think it is handled through Amazon, not sure though

trail comet
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Yeah, you're probably right.
Oh well, I suppose he just has to stay patient.

pulsar sphinx
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"Amazon's Choice" Prebuilt

tough walrus
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Their fault for selling used computers 😂 (directed at Amazon of course)

tribal sorrel
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probably also report it to cyberpower

vagrant maple
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Yeah worth taking a photo of the serial number on the pc and emailing it to cyberpower support just so they have a record

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That way they can track if amazon sell the same system again

pulsar sphinx
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which they probably will

tough walrus
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To the person that receives this computer in the future,

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blame scamazon

trail comet
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Yep, and it will go straight out for resale and it'll happen again.

pulsar sphinx
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I used to always recommend Amazon

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But I just cannot recommend them now

tribal sorrel
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ive seen people replace 4090 gpu boards with a lower tier card that uses the same cooler

tough walrus
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My 4070 was used I bought from Amazon new (had weird marks on the fins)

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Thankfully its gone now 😂

trail comet
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I'll never buy anything worth more than £50 from them again, and I know my friend definitely won't.
They are furious with the whole issue...and you don't even know the best part.
The week before Christmas they tried buying one in PC World Currys.
They ordered it in store, paid for it, and were told it would be in store the week after Christmas.
She rand up on the 27th and was told it was in store awaiting collection.
She went in there and after some faffing was told that, no, it wasn't in store and that it didn't exist.
I'll repeat, it didn't exist.
They don't sell that computer anymore.
Even though it was on their website.
She was almost speechless.
She left with nothing and had to tell the kid.
So, then, they ordered one off Amazon just before the weekend before New Year and that arrives missing the CPU.
This kid feels like someone or something is out to get him.
How do you explain that to a 12 year old who has been excited for weeks and told his friends his new computer was coming?
I genuinely think he'd give up on the whole thing if something went wrong again.

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I feel so bad for them, and she was so angry at the utter incompetence and stupidity of everyone involved.
I'm going to try and help now and hopefully steer them towards a more reputable outlet.
I did suggest buying the components and building it ourselves, but they didn't seem too keen.

pulsar sphinx
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The thing is, CyberpowerPC UK, if bought directly have a great reputation, over 10 thousand reviews on Trustpilot and everything

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It's Amazon that is throwing a spanner in

cold cargoBOT
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Trustpilot
trail comet
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Yeah, I looked at their site and it looks fine.
No issues with me.

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These are just regular people who aren't that tech savvy and thought a big company like Amazon was the safest bet.

calm rampart
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When the refund comes through I'd suggest looking at a next day system from Cyberpower or contacting support with Cyberpower

trail comet
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Cheers, Verk.

pulsar sphinx
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Support from Cyberpower have been known in the past to do gestures of goodwill to those that suffered the inconveniences of Amazon in the past

calm rampart
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They might be able to add on a quicker build on a custom one as a bonus

trail comet
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Yeah, I'm sure they'd appreciate that.

cold cargoBOT
# calm rampart https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/infinity-127-rt7-next-day-pc
Infinity 127 RT7 Next Day PC SY1729

Case: Corsair 3000D RGB Airflow Gaming Case - Black (features 3x ARGB 120mm fans)
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-12700K - 12-Core [8P @ 3.60GHz-5.00GHz / 4E @ 2.70GHz-3.80GHz] - 25MB Cache + UHD Graphics, Ultimate OC Compatible
CPU Cooler: Be Quiet Dark Rock Slim Air Cooler
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B660M-K D4: mATX w/ USB 3.2, 2x M.2
M.2 SSD: 2TB WD Green SN350 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD - 3200MB/s Read & 3200MB/s Write
RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4/3200MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX Memory
Graphics Card: GeForce RTX™ 4070 - 12GB GDDR6X - HDMI, DP - Real-Time Ray Tracing, NVIDIA DLSS 3
Power Supply: InWin P85FII 850W 80+ Gold ATX 3.0 Gaming Power Supply
PCIe WiFi Card: AWP1200E PCIe Wireless Card - Wi-Fi 5 (802.11ac), Up to 1200Mbps
Special Offer: Norton 360 VPN & Security for Gamers (Full 1 Year License)

£1499.00 inc. VAT (£1249.17 ex. VAT)

calm rampart
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Thats a decent PC

trail comet
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They have about 2.7k, Verk.

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He ordered one with an i9 14900k, a 4080, 32gb RAM, 1tb SSD, 850 W PSU

cold cargoBOT
# calm rampart https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/ultra-77-rtx-next-day-pc
Ultra 77 RTX Next Day PC SY1723

Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow Gaming Case - Black
Case Fans: 4x CyberPowerPC Hyperloop 120mm ARGB & PWM Fan Kit
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D - 8-Core 4.20GHz, 5.00GHz Turbo - 96MB L3 Cache Processor w/ Radeon Graphics
CPU Cooler: MSI MAG Coreliquid M240 ARGB AIO Liquid Cooler, Ultimate OC Compatible
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI: ATX w/ Wi-Fi 6E, USB 3.2, 2x M.2
M.2 SSD: 1TB WD Blue SN580 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD - 4150MB/s Read & 4150MB/s Write
RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5/5200mhz Corsair Vengeance Memory
Graphics Card: AMD Radeon™ RX 7900 GRE - 16GB GDDR6 - HDMI, DP - RDNA™ 3 Architecture, Infinity Cache™
Power Supply: InWin P85FII 850W 80+ Gold ATX 3.0 Gaming Power Supply
Special Offer: Norton 360 VPN & Security for Gamers (Full 1 Year License)

£1699.00 inc. VAT (£1415.83 ex. VAT)

calm rampart
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A nice AMD one too

trail comet
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I think he wants Nvidia

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I'll have a look around, see if there's a pre built or one that can be configured.

calm rampart
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Cant see anything with 4080s as a next day, theres a 4090 one but thats 3.2k

trail comet
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No way to configure?

cold cargoBOT
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pulsar sphinx
cold cargoBOT
# pulsar sphinx https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/saved/5507933
CFGI913THD5

Case: Lian Li Lancool-216 ARGB Gaming Case - Black (features x2 160mm ARGB fans)
Case Fans: None Selected
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-14700K - 20-Core [8P @ 3.40GHz-5.50GHz / 12E @ 2.50GHz-4.30GHz] - 33MB Cache + UHD Graphics, Ultimate OC Compatible [-141]
CPU Cooler: CyberPowerPC Master Liquid LITE 240 ARGB AIO Liquid Cooler, Ultimate OC Compatible
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z790-S WIFI: ATX w/ PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6E, USB 3.2, 2 x M.2
M.2 SSD: 4TB WD Black SN850X M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD - 7300MB/s Read & 6600MB/s Write [+167] (Single Drive)
RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5/5600mhz Corsair Vengeance RGB Memory [+24]
Graphics Card: MSI GeForce RTX™ 4070 Ti - 12GB GDDR6X - HDMI, DP - Real-Time Ray Tracing, NVIDIA DLSS 3 [-627] (Single Card)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850W 80+ Gold ATX 3.0 Fully Modular Gaming Power Supply
PCIe WiFi Card: None Selected
Special Offer: Norton 360 VPN & Security for Gamers (Full 1 Year License) [+0]

£2726.40 inc. VAT (£2272.00 ex. VAT)

calm rampart
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You can configure a PC yeah

pulsar sphinx
cold cargoBOT
# pulsar sphinx https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/saved/5507935
CFGI913THD5

Case: Lian Li Lancool-216 ARGB Gaming Case - Black (features x2 160mm ARGB fans)
Case Fans: None Selected
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-14700K - 20-Core [8P @ 3.40GHz-5.50GHz / 12E @ 2.50GHz-4.30GHz] - 33MB Cache + UHD Graphics, Ultimate OC Compatible [-141]
CPU Cooler: CyberPowerPC Master Liquid LITE 360 ARGB AIO Liquid Cooler, Ultimate OC Compatible [+5]
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z790-S WIFI: ATX w/ PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6E, USB 3.2, 2 x M.2
M.2 SSD: 4TB WD Black SN850X M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD - 7300MB/s Read & 6600MB/s Write [+167] (Single Drive)
RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5/5600mhz Corsair Vengeance RGB Memory [+24]
Graphics Card: MSI GeForce RTX™ 4070 Ti - 12GB GDDR6X - HDMI, DP - Real-Time Ray Tracing, NVIDIA DLSS 3 [-627] (Single Card)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e 850W 80+ Gold Low-Noise ATX 3.0 Fully Modular Gaming Power Supply [+6]
PCIe WiFi Card: None Selected
Special Offer: Norton 360 VPN & Security for Gamers (Full 1 Year License) [+0]

£2739.60 inc. VAT (£2283.00 ex. VAT)

pulsar sphinx
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360mm rad

calm rampart
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They want a 4080 though

trail comet
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Yeah, he's got his heart set on a 4080

pulsar sphinx
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I mean, does he have 4k monitors?

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that's really what 4080/90 specialises in

trail comet
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I don't think so, I think it's 1440

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I know, I agree it's probably overkill at 1440

pulsar sphinx
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yeah 4070 ti is a MONSTER of a card

trail comet
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Especially, with the i9 14900k

calm rampart
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4080 is good for 1440p

pulsar sphinx
calm rampart
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I dunno, 7800XT and 7900GRE are 1440p cards and they have 16gb of VRAM

trail comet
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Well, I'll perhaps mention it to him and see if he's willing to get something less OP for his resolution.

pulsar sphinx
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It'll really depend on what he's using it for, just gaming or?

calm rampart
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The AMD one I sent is like almost £1000 cheaper and would be a beast at 1440p

trail comet
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I mean, 1440-144 doesn't really need a 4080 i9 combo

pulsar sphinx
trail comet
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True, Mudkip

pulsar sphinx
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4080/4090 sounds alot cooler than "oh yeah I got a RX 7 9 000 G R E "

trail comet
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You know it.

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Alright, well thanks for your input, guys.
Much appreciated

pulsar sphinx
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especially for kids at that age, you gotta show it off

pulsar sphinx
trail comet
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👍👍👍👍

calm rampart
pulsar sphinx
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£1000 or 50% more coolness

tribal sorrel
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And better ray tracing

pulsar sphinx
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you're now infamous for the CPU missing saga

tough walrus
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7900GRE = 4070 performance

vagrant maple
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Personally won't ever recommend amazon for pc builds anymore just recommend the cyberpower website so you buy straight from them, amazon are just scammers

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Their rma department is shocking or non existent

tough walrus
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you just gotta complain kek

crude dome
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Damn that's a real shame reading about the Amazon saga - hopefully cyberpower can get some information as this is really bad PR and reputation damage. Personally I would never buy a PC (apart from a laptop/tablet) from amazon just in case of situations like this but would go straight to the retailer direct.

Hopefully the OP can get it resolved.

calm rampart
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Unfortunately its happened a few times

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Not sure if someone in the Amazon Warehouse is stealing cpus or if people are buying PCs taking the cpu and returning it and them Amazon are reselling without checking

void quartz
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People really desperate to sell parts for money if they are taking them and returning

crude dome
calm rampart
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Well I imagine they'd have to investigate to find out where the thefts are happening

turbid grove