How to learn making systems and games as a beginner?

[oblique willow]

What I have learned so far:

• Beginner stuff
• local vs server
• task functions
• remote events
• remote functions
• module script
• collection service
• basic gui

But I can't still yet making something like a game or small systems. I want to be better at scripting.
And when should I learn blender also.

[whole lynx]

** You are now Level 1! **

[vast aurora]

'what have i learned so far:
-beginner stuff
-beginner stuff
-beginner stuff

• ...'

whats the point of listing beginner stuff separately if u gonna list it out anyway

[kind jungle]

Work around with module scripts and functions,also never use normal scripts.even if it doesn't feel like you know the answer to a problem try

[vast aurora]

if u want a real tip dont listen to this guy lmao

[mystic crag]

Just start making a game. Try challenging yourself. Even if you have to learn new stuff along the way

Scripting is not only learning specific things like task functions or collection service. It also involves alot of experience like drawing.

You can learn how to draw eyes correctly or learn how the human body is structured but you won't improve if you don't try putting things together.

Just try making a game / project that you would think is fun. Without bothering yourself if you are good enough to make one.

[snow kayak]

Just make stuff, try thinking of doing something that you might be able to do with ur skills while still needing to learn some things. Basically creativity

[silver dagger]

then think what you like and do it and learn on the way

its not going to be easy

[oblique willow]

@snow kayak , @silver dagger, @mystic crag I really like the game Empire Clash

But where to begin with small systems?, like capturing territory by interacting Proximity prompt by a flag with has a progress bar that begin at the middle and goes to right. Or a gate moving up with a Proximity Prompt. Or a firearm store

[whole lynx]

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[snow kayak]

Would this be ur first game?

[oblique willow]

Yes

In that direction

Simple version

[snow kayak]

Do you have any games that are somewhat finished?

[whole lynx]

** You are now Level 17! **

[oblique willow]

No

[snow kayak]

Then I recommend you making a tycoon, simulator (simple game genre) game and putting stuff in it that you like

Because this would increase a lot of ur skills

[oblique willow]

What for kind of simulator?

And where to begin

[snow kayak]

I mean like fighting or maybe something pet related

[oblique willow]

I prefer fighting though.

How much time does it take to master to scripting systems?

[snow kayak]

I mean basically inf, because there are always new ways to improve ur skills

But like 2-3 years is like a pretty pretty good lvl on roblox

[oblique willow]

And is consistency 7 days a week good?

[snow kayak]

Yeah, but not necessarily needed

[oblique willow]

I had followed a tutorial Tower defence til #16 and stopped. But I don't still get the automation

Should I begin a simulator with or without tutorial

[snow kayak]

I'd definitely do without.

Only watch tutorials if really, really needed.

And also only watch them if you can't figure out ur problem from the roblox docs

[oblique willow]

Do you mean like only the knowledge ones? Like datastores or bindables

[snow kayak]

I also recommend using ai for some things as it is really helpful, if you know what you're doing.

[snow kayak]

Only if ur at the point that you most definitely need it for ur game rn at this state of it

[oblique willow]

And what for fighting simulation?

[snow kayak]

? Wdym

[oblique willow]

What for type of fighting simulator

[snow kayak]

What u want, this is where ur creativity comes in.

You could make an empire state type fighting sim with so like you may have weapons, stages/maps from different times in history

[oblique willow]

Yes

But is blender very important now? For making that sim

[snow kayak]

Yeah, if u want high quality models/builds. I also use it.

If u want though u can make it all in studio but it won't look as "good".

[oblique willow]

Idk how things making in blender looks like if you import to Roblox

But the toolbox and roblox stuff Is not as good

[snow kayak]

Just learn, that's the point. It's pretty much fine watching blender tutorials as long as you somewhat understand them. But making weapons and building ain't that hard if you know some basic stuff, though it depends on the model.

[oblique willow]

Just start now with blender? Before the scripting stuff

[whole lynx]

** You are now Level 3! **

[snow kayak]

Also you should experiment with things, don't need to learn all the stuff from others.

[oblique willow]

So it is go where you want and learn on the way?

So I can as Beginner make a start to Empire Clash

[snow kayak]

I mean I'm making a fighting sim and I started with a basic custom sword and a basic sword system that I got from youtube, and I eventually improved it by myself. Yeah I recommend learning stuff along the way, but only if u need to know it.

[oblique willow]

I can for example make a flag first and then some buildings?

Some Guns later

[snow kayak]

Yeah basically make the core concept first(you can add a few other things other than the core concept first, but don't make a lot of them until the core concept is done
Btw I had a shower

[oblique willow]

I'm going to dive in studio

[snow kayak]

The best way of learning is doing.

Also if u want to write down the things u want to do, I recommend using "trello". Here is a tut for it: https://youtu.be/XkvzBQvK8zg?si=CPD30HxYEdeMMzle

[oblique willow]

Yo I have used trello

This is in my trello

[snow kayak]

You should add all the things there that come to mind, so u don't forget them

[oblique willow]

like this:

And of course a lot more like map and etc.

[oblique willow]

Made a simple flag today. Tomorrow or next time the scripting and gui.

[oblique willow]

Made the flag

[dry lotus]

by "learned" do you mean you truly understand the concepts or you thoughtlessly followed a tutorial

[amber valley]

this is the worst advice ever

[dry lotus]

worst advice for learning, best for actual development

[oblique willow]

@dry lotus depends

I learned 2 days ago about RemoteEvents en RemoteFunctions. And yesterday about Module Scripts and Collection Service. The rest was a in the winter break.

But I start creating a game inspired by Empire Clash (step for step)

But I'm going to plan to be learning and building by consistenty I think
Monday: 1.5h in the early morning + about 1.5h later in the day
Tuesday: 1.5h
Wednesday: 1.5h
Thursday: 1.5h
Friday: 1.5h in the early morning + how much I want and can later
Weekend: how much I want and can

*I strive for min. 15h a week

[oblique willow]

What do you think of this weekplanning

[dry lotus]

don't bother planning, just do.

quit saying "when i [x]", just do it

general advice for creation

if you have freetime, you have time to learn

if you wanna make games, make games. if you have time to play games, you have time to make games. and for a first timer, don't rush it

[amber valley]

you should use normal scripts cuz modulescripts DONT WORK ALONE

they are MEANT TO BE REQUIRED

[dry lotus]

chill dawg

obviously you need a normal script for a module

just write most your code in modulescripts

so you don't need to write it over and over again

[vast aurora]

not really

[snow kayak]

If ur planning long term then u won't be consistent usually

Because you lose some motivation

[oblique willow]

Idk what to do with the scripting

My flag isn't changing color. But it does print.

[snow kayak]

Hmm lemme see

Are you tryna change the actual flag mesh's/part's color?

[oblique willow]

The parts (it is in a union) color

[snow kayak]

so what is ur code then, and did you make it work?

[whole lynx]

** You are now Level 4! **

[oblique willow]

@snow kayak here is my code

But im going also to put a progressbar on the flag

[oblique willow]

What to do with scripting, if i put a progressbar?

[snow kayak]

U need to increase/decrease the size of a frame

Also I don't really know how good/bad are unions, but I have heard some bad things about it

[oblique willow]

It wont change color

Does model work?

And how does scripting a progressbar works?

[snow kayak]

I mean If I was you I'd model the actual flag part in blender and then group it with the stand and change the flags colour. For a progressbar um U need 2 frames, 1 for the background and 1 for the actual bar

[oblique willow]

I did opened blender once, I have not really experience yet

[snow kayak]

And I actually use a progressbar system that is pretty easy to use, here is it https://youtu.be/L4vHf9epxyM?si=GO3kg0PMOAbdiWTF if u do this then u only need to modify the values not the actual size of the frame because that's already automated

[snow kayak]

Then get some experience with it!

I mean u can make almost any model from just a cube

Or cubes

[oblique willow]

Is my script for flag ok?

and the progressbar things in the same function, because the server (any player) will see it

[snow kayak]

I think so

But if u wanna make it like to claim only when the progress hits 100 then u gotta also make a loop check

[snow kayak]

Also I think u should use player.UserId for the owner or if u wanna display the name then player.Name

[oblique willow]

Can it also be a team

[snow kayak]

Ye

[oblique willow]

Making things is so hard

[snow kayak]

Nah, only in the beginning trust me

[oblique willow]

I have no idea what i need to do with the scripts

[snow kayak]

Wdym?

[oblique willow]

I want the progress bar let working

and if it is 100% then is claimed

[snow kayak]

Just do the tutorial and I can help u change the values

[oblique willow]

But if i change one of the frames color, the whole bar becomes red

[snow kayak]

Wdym?

[oblique willow]

It is the size right?

[snow kayak]

What do u wanna make in the first place?

Yeah

[oblique willow]

The progress from left to right

[snow kayak]

U gotta scale down by some so they're not the same size

It'll go to 0 automatically

[oblique willow]

Do i need a server script?

[snow kayak]

Yeah

[oblique willow]

ok

[snow kayak]

Or I think so if it's a billboard gui then probably yes

[oblique willow]

how do i write in the script

[snow kayak]

What the tutorial guy writes 🙏

[oblique willow]

can a while loop in a if statement?

[snow kayak]

Just make what the guy does exactly

That's just the system, it's not actually doing anything by itself

[oblique willow]

im confused with varibles

[snow kayak]

But did u make the script he showed?

[oblique willow]

sort of

[snow kayak]

BRO WTF U DUMBASS WHAT DID I TELL YOU

JUST MAKE WHAT HE MAKES EXACTLY

In a Different script

[oblique willow]

Another script?

but how can it be activated then?

[snow kayak]

BRO pls just do it

[oblique willow]

ok

[snow kayak]

What, why is max and current ?

[oblique willow]

idk where to refer to?

[snow kayak]

He made 2 number values in the explorer

Inside the gui

Also I recommend placing this script inside ur gui

So u can easily use script.Parent for easier referencing

[oblique willow]

so like this

and script in it

[snow kayak]

Yeah script in billboard gui, for easier referencing and management

If ur done let me know

[oblique willow]

this?

[snow kayak]

Ok so now go back to ur original script and reference the Max and current values

[snow kayak]

I think so

[snow kayak]

Nvm actually you should put .Value behind it

Behind both values

[whole lynx]

** You are now Level 5! **

[snow kayak]

In the original script

Too

[oblique willow]

i did .Value

also in the Progressbar script

[snow kayak]

Ok

[oblique willow]

What is next?

got error

[snow kayak]

So in ur trigger function do game.RunService.RenderStepped.Heartbeat:connect(function(deltatime)
currentNum = math.max(currentNum + progress / 100 * deltatime, maxNum) I think and also do local progress = 10 for example at the top

[oblique willow]

where

from which line starting?

above if?

[snow kayak]

After the prompt triggered

Under it( in it)

[oblique willow]

so in the if statement?

[snow kayak]

Ye sure that's still in the prompt trigger as well

[snow kayak]

I think so but move the local progress outside to the top, I'm pretty bad at this kinda math

[oblique willow]

progress is now under muxNum varible

[snow kayak]

Alr, and does it work if not what error u getting?

[oblique willow]

same error

line 4

[snow kayak]

Bro that's not even this script

It's another 1's error

Which script does it go to if u click it?

And what does error say?

[oblique willow]

the script in serverscriptservice

[snow kayak]

Send that script

Why is it in server script service, tell me

[oblique willow]

main script i think

[snow kayak]

Just screenshot that script

Pls

[oblique willow]

Both scripts here

[snow kayak]

Put the billboard gui into the flag

[snow kayak]

And then do currentval = flag.BillboardGui.Current value (and do the same with the max value)

[oblique willow]

in the progress script?

[snow kayak]

No

The other

[oblique willow]

ok

[snow kayak]

Ur reference is wrong in the main trigger script

Btw I gotta go after this

[oblique willow]

?

[snow kayak]

Yes

Now try it

[snow kayak]

Brp OMG

Really

Ok then define MainFlag as workspace.Flag

Local MainFlag = workspace.Flag

And then currentValue = Mainflag.blah blah blah

Cya gth

gtg*

[oblique willow]

cya

[snow kayak]

Well, did u make it work?

[oblique willow]

not yet

[oblique willow]

Yo I'm back

I now have finally have time to continue

[oblique willow]

@snow kayak filling the progress bar is now working

[whole lynx]

** You are now Level 6! **

[oblique willow]

Only the interaction with ProximityPrompt I need to do

I just started a test script

With a simple function

[oblique willow]

the working script will be named progressbar

[oblique willow]

Tomorrow I ll change the type of script of the progressscript to Module.

[vast aurora]

why deltatime

why not dt

[oblique willow]

old script

[vast aurora]

[oblique willow]

i have a simplified version

that works

[oblique willow]

right here

@vast aurora

But im figuring out how to change color of the flag

[vast aurora]

easy

[oblique willow]

I did a if statement. I have a print that says flag filled, but dont change color

[vast aurora]

how u change color

[oblique willow]

now it changes

[vast aurora]

no problem

im just that good

[oblique willow]

I did now brickcolor instead of color3

[vast aurora]

i fixed ur code by telepathically modifying your brainwaves

[oblique willow]

What do you mean?

[vast aurora]

dont worry about it

https://tenor.com/view/aizen-anime-battle-arena-transformation-roblox-roblox-meme-gif-9089908866248194757

[oblique willow]

Now i have done 80% of the flag task

Only the interaction with proximity button is needed

[oblique willow]

yo @vast aurora, @snow kayak i finished my flag

[snow kayak]

Ok

[oblique willow]

@snow kayak what do you think

[snow kayak]

I'd make the proximity prompt faster

[oblique willow]

ok

[snow kayak]

Cuz now u basically have to capture it twice lol

[oblique willow]

I have finished my first project

[snow kayak]

This was just a model and a mechanic

That isn't even polished or done

[oblique willow]

and i even don't have a map

I dont know what to build next

some buildings?

and learn modeling

[snow kayak]

Yeah lol, I'd build some environment first cuz that's easier than making good looking houses

[vast aurora]

swet

[vast aurora]

hater hater

[oblique willow]

@snow kayak my map would be 6000 × 6000 studs.

First I did put 6000 × 6000 water terrain and then 5000 × 5000 leafy grass

The playable map has a padding of 500 studs from the end of the map.

[snow kayak]

Idk how big are studs lol

[oblique willow]

1 stud ≈ 0.28 m
Standard Roblox walkspeed player = 16 studs/sec
Meaning diagonal you do 7-8 min about from Southwest to Northeast

[oblique willow]

And about 5 - 6 min walking to make a distance of 5000 studs

[snow kayak]

Ah ok that's fine I think

[oblique willow]

Yo

@snow kayak do you know how to build a firearm building?

[snow kayak]

Model?

Or like a weapon shop?

[oblique willow]

A shop with a building

Like old style

[oblique willow]

@snow kayak here are some examples

[snow kayak]

It's pretty straight forward, just build it

[oblique willow]

How?

[snow kayak]

Make parts?

[oblique willow]

Just parts?

[snow kayak]

I mean ur examples only have basic parts in them

For the building

For the models blender

[oblique willow]

When to use blender? And what to build with just Roblox Studio

[snow kayak]

Basic shapes roblox studio, complex models blender

For example the anvil should be made in blender, the building and the desk should be in roblox studio

But it's also fine if u make all of it in blender but I don't recommend that for you

[oblique willow]

And for the outside?

Also how to deal with windows and doors

[oblique willow]

@snow kayak

[whole lynx]

** You are now Level 7! **

[vast aurora]

basic shape

cube

complex model

ball

[snow kayak]

No bro ball is literally a basic shape

[oblique willow]

I have created a map and a begin of a building so far

[vast aurora]

is this deepwoken

https://tenor.com/view/duke-deepwoken-duke-erisia-duke-erisia-deepwoken-lithuania-gif-6253043238075556779

conquest leak

[oblique willow]

@snow kayak, @vast aurora update of my project

I have made a shop gui background, 2 days ago.
And today:

• Titel and description
• scrollframe with buttons (UIlistlayout and layoutorder)

[vast aurora]

nice but slow

hurry up or ai is gonna eat your job

[oblique willow]

yo @vast aurora, @snow kayak check this out. I worked on it today:

[cloud meteor]

Bro

[oblique willow]

what?

[cloud meteor]

You should organize your code

What

[oblique willow]

that was 2 weeks ago

[cloud meteor]

Why is my discord bugged

[oblique willow]

@cloud meteor but what do you think about the shop gui

[cloud meteor]

The interface itself does not look good

Buttons are not correctly positioned

[oblique willow]

I wanted like Empire Clash:

@cloud meteor

[snow kayak]

Nice, good progress! Now just make it work!

[oblique willow]

I did functionate the quantity

The buy button does need some work, but i have not yet a coin system

[snow kayak]

Yeah that's what I meant

[oblique willow]

But what should I do now

[snow kayak]

Add coins Ig

And weapons

Usable weapons

[oblique willow]

First coins

right

?

[silver dagger]

just do what you think is best

[snow kayak]

Yeah

[silver dagger]

self reliance

[oblique willow]

@snow kayak, @silver dagger do i need to use remotefunction (client -> server -> client) or remoteevent (client -> server)?

How to combine scripts if i wanted a good working coin system

I made yesterday the coin balk layout

[snow kayak]

I recommend you making a procedural shop cuz it's just a lot easier to make

I recommend making something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQLaJcFWF-U

If u want to I can send you how I made my own

[oblique willow]

yes

Im going to watch that and see what he is doing with code.

@snow kayak But how does the coins via gui system work? Because I dont use the standard roblox leaderstats

And is it like about cloning button? what the video shows. Plus what to do with quantity?

[snow kayak]

Just set the text of it to the coins value

Coins:GetPropertyChangedSignal("Value"):Connect(function()
CoinsText.Text = ToString(Coins.Value) or idk exactly how it should be but something like this