who got a game idea

[tropic seal]

im bored

[tranquil meteor]

https://devforum.roblox.com/t/looking-for-a-very-simple-but-engaging-game-idea/4231172/3?u=cyrusdevs

I like this post

[white prawn]

Make a btd 6 rip off 👍 Good for learning O.O.P. i think

or just make systems that you think would be cool that you can also use in other projects like an emote system or an building system

[trim junco]

I mean any project can be good for learning OOP

[smoky lintel]

🥀

[smoky lintel]

nah

[trim junco]

how so?

[trim junco]

name one project OOP could not be applied to

[smoky lintel]

?

that’s not what i said or the subject is.

i said not all projects are useful to use to learn oop

if you try to forcefully apply oop to a game or concept where that’s a terrible idea you’ll end up with bad habits instead of new knowledge

[trim junco]

whether the game is a terrible idea or applying oop is a terrible idea?

because I'm implying applying OOP can never be a terrible idea

[smoky lintel]

it definitely can if you force it in places where it shouldn’t be

[trim junco]

where should OOP be?

[smoky lintel]

in places where it’s needed lol

[trim junco]

I think you have a lack of understanding of OOP

[smoky lintel]

if you use it improperly you’ll make your code less optimized more verbose and just worse

[smoky lintel]

LOL?

check my github.

[trim junco]

I can kind of agree on the verbose part

like I dont think there should be a subclass for everything like some people do, but its also better for things like data ownership

[smoky lintel]

so, you checked yet?

[shell grail]

** You are now Level 11! **

[trim junco]

no

do you really want me to?

[smoky lintel]

then don’t blindly assume people lack experience because they’re stating an opinion that contradicts yours

[trim junco]

I wouldnt really call your github really showing experience

you have 4 projects, one of which is lua

which is a state machine

hold on let me read it

[smoky lintel]

plenty of OOP use to prove I’m not incapable of using OOP properly 👍

[trim junco]

I wouldnt really call this plenty of OOP use

but

I'm just trying to say that OOP is more useful than just things like, creating entities n shit

I personally make all my modules classes

[smoky lintel]

Give an example of this

You gotta be ragebaiting

[trim junco]

nope let me show you

Here is the code for my (very early) fight system

its a singleton class, if I need my fight system functions or data from another script, I instance my fightsystem again and since its a singleton it returns the previously existing instance

granted... granted

if you look at the top

there is this line of code

system.local module = require(game:GetService("ReplicatedStorage").CoreModules.ClassSystem).new({
    class_name = "FightSystem",
    is_singleton = true
})

and that is a little.. verbose but

it allows me to make classes in lua easier since there is not support for it by default (like in c++)

[smoky lintel]

dawg…

[trim junco]

there is nothing wrong with that I'm actually quite proud of my class system

i only had to write it once and its transferrable to use in all of my code

now all my classes support: inheritance, constructor chaining, and singletons without all the boilerplate that comes with psuedo classes in lua

[smoky lintel]

so the boilerplate of using classes in everything and cluttering your code with overly verbose classes are a better solution? 🤔

[trim junco]

you're mistaken, there is no boilerplate for setting up classes for my code. I actually built it to specifically be just like a regular module

[smoky lintel]

alr well we aren’t gonna make any progress here, so if you’re happy w it then good for u!

[trim junco]

local module = require(game:GetService("ReplicatedStorage").CoreModules.ClassSystem).new({
    class_name = "ClassName",
})

function module.new()
    local self = {}

    self.TestValue = "hello!"
    
    return self
end

function module:TestFunction()
    return self.TestValue
end

return module

this is what like a baseline version would look like

no setmetatable here!

i do not like having to copy and paste the thing to require the module though

that is the only thing I would call boilerplate

technically regular modules have more boilerplate since there is no

module.__index = module

or

return setmetatable(self, module)

Point is I make my code less verbose with OOP

oh did I mention it also supports virtualized functions?

I can nerd out quite a bit on this topic but I dont think you really care to hear

[white prawn]

is it not? im trying to learn O.O.P. that way

[trim junco]

It is, its better to separate each of your towers logic into their own classes.

you can define like a base tower & the data on it like health, damage, model, and then create sub classes based on that base tower for each tower and its specific functions. This is helpful because what if every tower has some sort of base functionality that needs to be replicated across all the towers, you're gonna have to copy paste code or and make ur game a big spaghetti mess of arbitrarily placed functions

and the typical usecase of OOP is to represent many similar but different objects (towers)