Model pivots

[floral grove]

manually adjust all models

i suggest aligning everything to 0,0,0 orientation

[surreal carbon]

thats the only way?

Cant be

[floral grove]

'forward' is in the -z direction. you can tell which way this is easily by spawning a humanoid, its default orientation is always 0,0,0 facing the -z direction

[floral grove]

yes you cannot automate this

[surreal carbon]

oh wait so if i insert a humanoid it will work?

[floral grove]

no i'm just telling you which direction to align everything to

[surreal carbon]

Dang bruh u sure?

[floral grove]

yes

[surreal carbon]

How u know

[floral grove]

experience

today you will learn the value of consistency in your assets

[surreal carbon]

bro what

wdym all models pivots weird

[floral grove]

your assets are inconsistent thats why they face different directions

[surreal carbon]

its a brainrot pack

[floral grove]

at orientation 0,0,0 all models should be facing the same direction

if they're not, you need to manually adjust it so it does

there's no way to decide which direction is 'forward' for a model except for its orientation

i hope you learned your lesson

[surreal carbon]

so i would have to keep play testing till its correct?

[surreal carbon]

Huh?

its not even my models

[floral grove]

exactly.

[surreal carbon]

its a brainrot pack

[floral grove]

if you made your own models you would have made them consistent to start with, but you're taking random junk out of toolbox

[surreal carbon]

its not toolbox

[floral grove]

and random junk is never going to be consistent

[surreal carbon]

they are high quality brainrots from twitter

[floral grove]

some quality

[surreal carbon]

Gold varation and diamond varation

[floral grove]

link?

[surreal carbon]

Im on phone later ill send it

[floral grove]

in the mean time ya you have to manually adjust

modellers and ui designers both have this problem

assets need consistent but when building they usually don't care about it, it's not important to their step

[floral grove]

high quality junk

[surreal carbon]

ight bro is there a faster way to know the ‘foward’ position without play testing all the time?

[floral grove]

is this a joke?

[surreal carbon]

no its a serious question

Theres “show orientation indicator” on baseparts

so im wondering if theres something similar

[floral grove]

you can't be serious

[surreal carbon]

Bro what

thats not what i asked for at all

bro all my orienation is set to 0 and it faces wrong with I pivot it to a platform position

so instead of testing it each time there could possibly be a way to go around this?

[floral grove]

literally just this

[surreal carbon]

Bro

all my brainrots orienation is 0

[floral grove]

you have to check more than just the root model

[surreal carbon]

and it still faces wrong

Do I have to check the primary parts orienation or no?

[floral grove]

you have to check everything including motors

[surreal carbon]

its not rigged or anything like that

[floral grove]

if you're lucky it's just a backwards rootpart

[surreal carbon]

Wait would it be a very good idea to remove the models primarypart and it will work intended?

[floral grove]

is that a joke?

coz if it is meant to be a joke that's pretty funny yeah just remove the primarypart from everything what could possibly go wrong

[surreal carbon]

Bro this isnt a comdey show

im just coming up with solutions

and your just hating

[floral grove]

you just need to align your models to 0,0,0 orientation its pretty simple but tedious

[surreal carbon]

Nah i got command bar

[floral grove]

and like i said if you're lucky it's just a backwards rootpart but it can be more than that like joints and motors are backwards

[surreal carbon]

so even the mesh parts orienation gotta be 0

[floral grove]

depends on the meshpart but generally rootparts should be orientation 0

e.g if you're making a t-pose or there's an accessory or something the orientation won't be 0

in words, this is described as rotated appropriately relative to the 0,0,0 orientation

[surreal carbon]

ima try command bar to make everything orienation 0 lets see how that turns out

[floral grove]

you don't strictly need to have it facing 0,0,0 to align correctly but it just makes it a lot easier to notice when parts are backwards

[surreal carbon]

btw quick questoon

[floral grove]

it's also worth noting that if a model has a primary part and you rotate the model or the primarypart, the other instance will rotate along with the part you rotated and the orientation will not change

so for some occasions you need to disconnect constraints on the part

i find an easy way to do this is to group the part into its own model, make the rotation, then ungroup it

if its a motor then yeah have fun getting the orientation correct coz that isn't exactly intuitive

[surreal carbon]

nope no motors

[floral grove]

since it's 2 counter-orientations that need to complement each other, is the best way i can describe it

and the motors always override part orientation

i know this because i had problems with toolbox npcs being backwards for one of my games

every single npc had to be checked and repaired

some of them had backwards motors so even though it looked like it was facing the right way, the motors were connected upsidedown so animations moved the limbs in opposite direction to the way they should

that was fun only took me like a day each time that happened

[surreal carbon]

dang

crazy

quick question

is there a dev forum of a command bar script to make tools for me instead of manually welding all 30 + models into a tool

to save time

[floral grove]

dev forum no

[surreal carbon]

Well do u have one

[floral grove]

no forum post is going to have a precise solution to what you're doing

[surreal carbon]

do u use a script to make tools?

[floral grove]

why on earth would i have a brainrot welding script

that's so specific

[surreal carbon]

no in general

u have a handle

or a reference tool

and u get the brainrots

and weld the children

[floral grove]

i make all my own stuff bruh

there are no perfect already-existing solutions to most of what i, or anyone else, would make

if i need something welded by script, i'll write the script myself and hand-curate the assets it's working on so they are consistent enough for the script to work

i don't just slap random shit together and pray it works ;o

[surreal carbon]

same

[boreal cradle]

** You are now Level 15! **

[surreal carbon]

ill just make one

Ima go try ur method

if making all the children of the brainrot model orientation 0 doesnt work im gonna ping you

[floral grove]

if you're lucky, all the models you have are misaligned by the same degree so after you do a couple of them and notice a trend you can just write a small command to do it for you, but even then it might still miss a few that were not the same as the others

[floral grove]

bro why am i responsible for your janky ahh asset pack

[surreal carbon]

it cost 80k robux wdym

it most popular one

[floral grove]

you spent 80k on this?

[surreal carbon]

nope

Owner did

i think

idk

[surreal carbon]

Hahhaa

Setting the primarypart orientation to 0 worked

[floral grove]

you doubted me?

[surreal carbon]

yes

we basically have the same scripting knowledge so it was kinda hard to believe that would work

[floral grove]

can pretty much guarantee this is not the case

[surreal carbon]

we do have almost the same scripting knowledge

[floral grove]

you can believe whatever you like, i'm not your mom and you can make your own decisions

[surreal carbon]

what do you think

[floral grove]

not even close

i've been developing games and for games for a very long time

particularly lua

[surreal carbon]

how many years

[floral grove]

i lost track

[surreal carbon]

stop lying

no way u lost track of years

your not that old

[floral grove]

what about you

[surreal carbon]

2020

I even made some scripting tutorials back in 2020

[floral grove]

so ya we do not have the same experience, not even close

[surreal carbon]

u cant estimate a year number?

[floral grove]

more than a decade

[surreal carbon]

u know c++

?

[floral grove]

yes

[surreal carbon]

like a lot?

[floral grove]

i haven't used it in a while

[surreal carbon]

bro c++ is the best programming language

[floral grove]

what have you made with c++

[surreal carbon]

Well I think roblox dont have c++

[floral grove]

i wasn't asking about roblox

[floral grove]

what have you made with c++?

[surreal carbon]

I havent scripted anything outside of roblox

expect for scratch

[floral grove]

so if you have never made anything with c++ how can you say it is the best?

[surreal carbon]

Because Plants Vs Zombies Garden Warefare 2 uses it

and its really good for high tech companies

[floral grove]

our programming knowledge differs by orders of magnitude and this is obvious

let the record show, i made this with c++ entirely from scratch, which also has lua in it. the c++ is the rendering and all that, lua spawned the teapots, and there's lots of inbetween like c++ layer needs model objects and lua just gives filenames and other properties like position and angle

the movement is done with a gamepad

had both keyboard/mouse + gamepad

etc

[surreal carbon]

whats your job rn

[floral grove]

that's what i have made with c++

[surreal carbon]

do u work for EA

or do u do roblox development full time?

[floral grove]

i'm trying to get high income from roblox, a job will never pay enough

and i have the skills so there's no reason not to at least try

[floral grove]

so i'm not sure what gave you this idea but we do not have the same scripting knowledge

[surreal carbon]

in lua only

[surreal carbon]

i can send u a good paying job in ur dms

[floral grove]

scripting is not just about knowing the language, it's knowing how to use scripts effectively, when things are script related, and when they are not.

it's knowing when something is possible, and when it is not

[floral grove]

at the moment i'm not taking any commissions coz the pay sucks, but i mean if you want to make an offer i'll hear you out

[surreal carbon]

No its some high roblox company that make brookhaven and universal football

lot of requirments but its really good

[floral grove]

if you want to dm me i'll hear you out but i'm not a fan of commissions

you're also competing with my own projects so

supply vs demand right