Making server objects less laggy

[devout halo]

I am making a single-player game about combining cubes, so far it has 1 main server script and 2 modules required in it (see them bellow)

Problem: Pushing cubes (cloned off a template in server storage, via server script) is super laggy, where pushing cubes cloned with a local script isn't laggy at all. How do i fix this ( all cubes are massless )? (see video)

Why do i want the server to recognise them, and not the client only? Later on, I want to give the players multiple uses for cubes, like selling, crafting, etc... ( where server is needed ).

If there is no way of making server objects less laggy, I heard there is a way to make them render through client first then connect to server ( got no clue how that's done )

Please note I am not experienced.

MAIN Cube spawning script

CubeRNG module

CubeDefinitions module

[brisk skiff]

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[graceful maple]

the problems probably not woth the scripts at all—its likely just player hotboxes. try going to the avatar tab n adding consistent hitboxes. switching to r6 might also help

if its still too laggy, you could try making a custom hitbox part by duplicating one to every humanoid and making them only collide with the boxes

switching from server scripts to localscripts might also cut back lag. if the servers lagging, then the boxes are lagging—in a localscript, however, the boxes will only lag if youre lagging

another fix might to just be simply putting a script in every box that makes them more sensitive to collosions

[devout halo]

this?

[graceful maple]

yeah

[devout halo]

how can i check how much server is lagging?

[devout halo]

enabled that + r6, no difference

[graceful maple]

thhhaatttss a good question i dont know how to answer actually

ill come back to that

[devout halo]

i assume this many boxes wouldn't make server lag too bad

[graceful maple]

im assuming youre having the boxes being taken out of serverstorage and duplicated, so you could try putting a script inside of each box that makes their physics more sensitive, and more prone to sliding

you could also gove the player a custom, bigger hitbox, but that sounds like a pain in the ass

[graceful maple]

id say this is probably the best route

[devout halo]

i don't want that

[devout halo]

ngl i got no clue how to make such script, and chatgpt is just telling me to change custom physical properties

[graceful maple]

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sorry im trying to think stroaght its 5 am gove me a moment

oh eait no just trll it to change the physical mass property in the script

like

ok

pocture this

you got a part in the work space

you put a server script in it

you tell gpt to do whatever (tell it to modify the physical properties manually in the script instead of doing hard, hard labor)

and then boom done

[devout halo]

all the parts in the model are already massless

[graceful maple]

what about friction and elasticity

[graceful maple]

lower friction = more slide

so like try something real low then

like 0.03

low elasticity is just for bounce but i might help it

[devout halo]

problem is they are super super laggy

[graceful maple]

are you not running it in studio?

[devout halo]

its in studio

[graceful maple]

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this is rough jesus ok hold on

idea okay

since the model has more than like one part, it might be all trying to keep up but struggling

to fix this, maybe you could put s transparent shell around each cube that the player can collise with in order to push it properly

[devout halo]

look at this game for example, how is it doin that?

[graceful maple]

i forgot if you said this already but also make sure everything youre trying tk lush is unmass

[devout halo]

yeah everythin is massless

[graceful maple]

thats physical properties

maybe theres too much friction eith the baseplate?

[devout halo]

cubes don't lag at all there, even when so many

[graceful maple]

is it a 1 player game?

[devout halo]

nah

[devout halo]

yes, what i am going for aswell

[devout halo]

the push registers, it just lags back

[graceful maple]

oh if youre going for just an independent game where theres no multiplayer definitely switch everything you can to localscripts in starterplayer if it isnt there already

[graceful maple]

maybe the problem might be network owner

[devout halo]

this is cube model

[devout halo]

is there any quick fix to that?

[devout halo]

though if its local and server has no clue about it, how will i let players sell, craft cubes later on

[graceful maple]

that's a lot if parts to be pushing around

hold on try a cube like just a normal part

see how that goes

[devout halo]

alr ima do that rq

[limpid chasm]

all that for 1 cube?

no wonder its lagging

[devout halo]

i did a test push without frames, its not as laggy, but still laggy

[limpid chasm]

idk why u got so much stuff but if u want an outline on the cubes put the textlabels in the surfaceguis in a frame with size set to 1, 0, 1, 0 and then add inside of the frame a uistroke with the borderstrokepostion to inner and the applystrokemode to border

[devout halo]

initially i wanted it to stick out and be neon

[limpid chasm]

then give the cubes a humanoid and add a highlight directly inside the model

[devout halo]

i mean only the frames neon

[limpid chasm]

put the highlight inside the walls of the cube then clone the walls and move them up a tiny bit then make sure the surfaceguis r only inside the outerwalls and then it should work (if u cant see the outline then scale its height and width slightly until u can)

then delete the highlights out the the new walls

[devout halo]

ty, will try that

[limpid chasm]

my recent use of highlights (for a safezone) use this as an example

[devout halo]

this looks nice already without highlight

[devout halo]

do highlights cause lag?

[limpid chasm]

do that then 👍

[limpid chasm]

no, only the humanoids. but unless ur gonna hv complex pathfinding it shouldnt cause a difference

highlights need humanoids to work btw

[devout halo]

i just discovered smth

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[limpid chasm]

what

[devout halo]

it sticks out aswell

[limpid chasm]

yh but they arent neon tho

at least i dont think never rly used them

[graceful maple]

ok sorry im back what happened

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[devout halo]

how do i get the walls of a cube

[limpid chasm]

i told him that having too much in the box caused lag so i gave hum some ways of fixing it and then he discovered selection boxes

[limpid chasm]

u mean make walls?

[graceful maple]

did one individual brick push smoothly?

[devout halo]

i do not wanna have 6 parts inside my cube-since that would put me back to where i started

[limpid chasm]

should do

[devout halo]

nah

[limpid chasm]

wdym then?

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[devout halo]

can i somehow have highlights only for the edges of my cube, without creating more parts?

[limpid chasm]

ok

yes

[graceful maple]

did you try updating the network owner to the player instead of the server?

[limpid chasm]

lemme explain tho:

[devout halo]

idk how to do that and clanker doesn't say correctly

[graceful maple]

hhh let me get the wireback out

[limpid chasm]

set the transparency of the cube to high but not 1 so like 0.5 or smth

then set the color of the highlight to whatever color u want

[limpid chasm]

script.Parent:SetNetworkOwner(nil)

[devout halo]

do i put this at the top of the cube spawning script?

[limpid chasm]

yh this was just an example run :SetNetworkOwner(nil) on every new part u create (basically nil is no-one so one can move the part via exploits you hv to input a plr so nil is no-one)

[graceful maple]

you guys seem like you got this

im gonna go to bed

[limpid chasm]

gn

[graceful maple]

ive been up all night and its like 6 am

goodluck soldiers

[devout halo]

gn

[devout halo]

error: SetNetworkOwner is not a valid member of ServerScriptService "ServerScriptService"

[limpid chasm]

so like: [YOUR_NEW_CUBE]:SetNetworkOwner(nil)

[devout halo]

ohh

[limpid chasm]

nooo

only run on baseparts

[limpid chasm]

did it work?

[devout halo]

after 20 billion errors i got it to give me no error

put it here

pushing cubes is still laggy

idk why i can't even push the bigger ones

[limpid chasm]

show me ur cube placeholder (the objs inside it in explorer view yk)

[devout halo]

this? in server storage

i will remove them frames but i gotta modify scripts

[limpid chasm]

for i, obj in pairs(spawnedCube:GetChildren()) do
obj:SetNetworkOwner(nil)
end

[devout halo]

took as an example this cube , removed its frames, set its network owner, still laggy to push

[limpid chasm]

show me ur full game explorer so like everything opened (trust me)

[devout halo]

i don't think it will fit in 20 screenshots

[rough kindle]

Honestly was about to assume you used AI to write this, if you're on PC but i feel liek some people just have em-dashes in their keyboards

😭

No one can write Em-Dashes in PC unless they use the Alt + num method

except on mobile

[devout halo]

its literally a button for me

i use em a lot

[limpid chasm]

do the server parts so like workspace serverstorage serverscriptservice replicatedstorage etc (ik replicatedstorage isnt server but yk)

[rough kindle]

FYI:
Client and Server behaves differently.

Assuming all parts are unanchored

In server it would be laggy as it has to replicate through all clients

[rough kindle]

In client it wont be the same, as its only replicated through one client and no one else it wouldnt really do anything too heavy

[rough kindle]

And you dont need to post your games architechture i already told you the problem

[rough kindle]

If you want to have pushing into your game, id reccomend only unanchoring when needed

Hope this helps.

[devout halo]

i used to spawn them with local script

but then i realised i wanted ppl to be able to sell/use them for stuff

[limpid chasm]

do not store all that in workspace put it in serverstorage also u dont need to even store it physically, any different colors, transparency, etc between cubes, store them in a module script

[devout halo]

this is just the old way i used to do it

[limpid chasm]

store 1 placeholder cube

[devout halo]

these are the modules

[limpid chasm]

same, trust me its hella laggy

[devout halo]

i will just delete the templates from workspace since yeah, i do not need em anymore

[limpid chasm]

kk

[rough kindle]

There is a way to do this but you need to have REALLLLYY strict protection

But again, if you want to have pushing

Use server, unanchor when needed

[devout halo]

main feature of my game is pushin

[limpid chasm]

yh like the other guy said, only unanchor parts that r close to the plr

[devout halo]

so...some proximity thing?

[rough kindle]

No thats dumb

Unanchor when a player touches the object

As if theres 10 players, it would still give out lag

[devout halo]

when part touched unanchor?

[limpid chasm]

ur overusing physics thats why its so laggy

[rough kindle]

If used proximity

[devout halo]

ohh i think i understand now

unanchored parts still make roblox do physics calculations-even if stationary

[limpid chasm]

yh but it would stand still for a moment when u first touch it and thatd be weird

[limpid chasm]

its single plr so itd be fine

[devout halo]

i want pushing to be flawless, like in this game

will i achieve such thing doing what u said @rough kindle ?

[limpid chasm]

thats laggy

[devout halo]

i am not talking about the combining-i am talking about the pushing

[limpid chasm]

so make a function to get the nearest plr and if theyre less than 10 studs away unanchor smth like this:

    local closest = nil
    local closestDist = math.huge

    for i, plr in ipairs(plrs:GetPlayers()) do
        local chr = plr.Character
        
        if chr and chr.PrimaryPart then
            local hum = chr:FindFirstChild("Humanoid")
            
            if hum and hum.Health > 0 then
                local dist = (chr.PrimaryPart.Position - nextbotHrp.Position).Magnitude
                
                if dist < closestDist then
                    closestDist = dist
                    closest = chr
                end
            end
        end
    end

    return {closest, closestDist}
end```

[devout halo]

get nearest player? huh

[limpid chasm]

find closest plr if theyre less than x studs away unanchor if not anchor. or just get the distance from the first plr to join since its single plr

[devout halo]

it won't cause any lag right?

[limpid chasm]

literally just this:
local dist = (chr.PrimaryPart.Position - nextbotHrp.Position).Magnitude

[devout halo]

server script right?

[limpid chasm]

not unless u overuse it, do it every 0.1 second or smth

[limpid chasm]

obviously thatd lag the plr

[devout halo]

btw my cubes spawn in the sky and fall down (intentional design), can i make it so they are not anchored for the first 5 seconds

[limpid chasm]

also enable this (look at the sent and recv if their high ur game is horribly optimised):

[limpid chasm]

do that

[limpid chasm]

(enable performance stats)

[devout halo]

on the 5th line did you mean to say plrs ?

[limpid chasm]

local plrs = game:GetService("Players")

[limpid chasm]

its ok, is the game still laggy?

[devout halo]

its the same as it was when i made this post

i think cubes aren't anchoring, gotta fix that

[limpid chasm]

my game

[devout halo]

problem with keeping cubes anchored when not touched

i think best way is just to locally spawn them

and use remote events/functions in order to let server know what the player wants to do

(sell, craft, etc)

[limpid chasm]

yh do that

[devout halo]

something like SellCubeEvent:FireServer(cubeID)

[limpid chasm]

yh

[devout halo]

I have been at this optimising server spawning stage for way too long, no results

[devout halo]

those won't be laggy right?

[limpid chasm]

just make less cubes spawn

[limpid chasm]

not unless u spam it

[devout halo]

that's no fun-initially there will be less, but upgrades will increase that number

[limpid chasm]

idk, maybe try making cubes only spawn near the plr and after a while they delete since its single plr this should be fine.

[devout halo]

i want cubes to save ( will do it much later )

see now they slide easily

but why are four sized cubes so much harder to push?

[limpid chasm]

looks fine to me, considering ur stats r fine, maybe its just ur computer? what is ur pcs specs?

[limpid chasm]

bc theyre heavier

[devout halo]

i am using an old laptop, not really that great

[devout halo]

well won't massless make them all equally hard to push

[limpid chasm]

idk tbh

sry capslock

[limpid chasm]

yh thats prolly why

[devout halo]

" setting a cube to Massless = true in Roblox makes its physics ignore the part’s actual mass. The result is that all cubes, regardless of size, require the same force to move. "

[limpid chasm]

ik idk why its doing that

[devout halo]

what is going on here?

each frame is set to massless too

[limpid chasm]

seems to me that its fine, its prolly bc its bigger that it looks like its heavier. just watch it again although it looks like its heavier it takes the same time to move each cube

[devout halo]

its clearly harder to push

i can barely move the 4th one

[limpid chasm]

oh thats very weird

[devout halo]

i will make a new post on that, since i achieved the purpose of this one

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[limpid chasm]

kk

[devout halo]

#1449777591396601988

won't use this thread anymore

[sonic umbra]

Make the parts massless

Yeah I didn’t read anything

[graceful maple]

em dashes are not that hard to use nor find. i typed it on mobile—all of you have to do is go to your 2nd keyboard and hold down on the hyphen to get an em dash. you might be cooked 💔