How do good games write crisp PVP networking?

[crimson nacelle]

I am trying to develop a game with pvp in it, I am asking for some advice how to get the PVP networking right and get that smooth crisp pvp games like other games have. Its a sword game with possibly projectiles such as arrows later on, I am focusing on delivering the MVP first so I only need the bare minimum setup first (so people don't get frustrated with bad hitreg.. etc)

[jaunty scarab]

I don't have a lot of knowledge when it comes to making a pvp networking so anything i say might be wrong but one thing is that you should not make physical objects for the projectiles as they will take up a lot of performance(especially when you have a lot of projectiles at the same time) you should try your best to make an instance(which is the projectile) into a bunch of numbers that you can use to predict where the instance is going and when it will reach that spot

[crimson nacelle]

I was always a fan of ballistic trajectories though, and the projectiles are generally arrows so their velocity is slower, and using hitscan would be unreasonable in my opinion

[jaunty scarab]

Is there a scenario where there would be a lot of projectiles?

that is made on the server

[crimson nacelle]

unless the players coordinate themselves to crash a server, no I would only have bow and arrows

so the firerate wouldn't be all that

a few seconds per arrow

[jaunty scarab]

wait how much people are you planning to have in a single server?

[crimson nacelle]

50-100

[jaunty scarab]

holy

[crimson nacelle]

you can count around 20 people to never be firing arrows, and 30 more that might not use arrows cuz they will have swords instead

[jaunty scarab]

okay

[crimson nacelle]

cuz the game will revolve around 20 people doing logistics

[jaunty scarab]

Only sync relevant players nearby, not the whole server yk what i mean like no need to show a player that is swinging a sword and is far away from one another

Honestly your best bet about learning such thing is to use google as many people in this discord server isn't like a scripter who understand such stuff

[crimson nacelle]

I use gemini but mainly do my own stuff alone, when I started this project (3 days ago) I had no idea what I was doing and basically used gemini for the whole code, but today I am writing my own code independently

I made the sword module in like 15 minutes with anticheat checks

[jaunty scarab]

that is pretty good

But it is better if you handle the code and not ai

[crimson nacelle]

and it works

[jaunty scarab]

because ai is popo

[crimson nacelle]

yeah I am handling it myself

[crimson nacelle]

lowkey hes good at debugging sometimes

[jaunty scarab]

Have you tried going to the dev forum?

[crimson nacelle]

I cannot send messages there

yet

[jaunty scarab]

Yea but you can't always guarantee that it will give you working code

[jaunty scarab]

no like searching up your problem surely there is someone who asked the same question and solve it

[crimson nacelle]

I do sometimes

but I mainly read docs

if I need something