Need balanced behaviour

[peak sequoia]

So, I'm making horror game so I just wanna know like if player walking speed 16 then what should be the good chasing speed of my ghost and what should be his vision like 20meter or above

[compact quarry]

Is there sprinting in your game?

[icy mantle]

aren't you the newgen from earlier?

lol

[peak sequoia]

Yes but with stamina and I'm making horror game 1st time like we can sprint for 6-7 seconds and while sprinting speed 22 and if stamina full 0 then speed 14

[icy mantle]

make the ghost faster than walk but slower than run lol

just so its tailing right behind you but can't catch you easily

quite simple

[peak sequoia]

20 speed ok

[icy mantle]

around there

18 if its still too fast

[compact quarry]

probably make the ghost speed about 17-21 so while running you can barely avoid it but it also punishes sprinting to often

[peak sequoia]

Ok ty

[peak sequoia]

And what about vision?

[compact quarry]

whats the enviroment

[peak sequoia]

Dark less light and night

[compact quarry]

what about the map i mean

[peak sequoia]

Indoor

Hostle

With too many rooms

[compact quarry]

do you already have a wandering/patroling system

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[compact quarry]

for the ghost i mean

[peak sequoia]

Rn no i working on it

[compact quarry]

ok

[peak sequoia]

That why I asked for speed

And vision

[compact quarry]

how big is your longest/ most open area

[quiet kayak]

Just put vision to 30 and speed to 20 don’t worry about this stuff just make the system then tweak it

[peak sequoia]

It's like a hall in centre

[mint fjord]

http://tryitands.ee

[peak sequoia]

It's good also

[mint fjord]

this guy gets it, reach a point where you have working npc and then try different values for the speeds until you settle on a configuration you like

[quiet kayak]

Thanks pyro! Ily

[icy mantle]

bubba trump relation

[peak sequoia]

It's a ghost not a npc

[quiet kayak]

Ur ghost IS an npc

[peak sequoia]

-_-

[quiet kayak]

npc = non playable character aka Ai aka your ghost

[mint fjord]

ghost is an npc... but that detail doesn't matter the point is you can't really know balance in advance, you have to test it and tweak it until you get something that feels right

[peak sequoia]

So 30 vision ok for petrolling

[quiet kayak]

Hit the test button

It’s there for a reason

[mint fjord]

a lot of work and effort is often put into tracking statistics for more advanced configurations that have way more variables than just the walk speed between 2 characters

[compact quarry]

yeah as long as its line of sight not like a radius detection

[peak sequoia]

I'll try

[compact quarry]

since you have a lot of rooms

[mint fjord]

even those simulator games - how fast should the progression be at different stages of the game? well, that takes a while to tweak until it feels right

[peak sequoia]

Huh I didn't get it?

[mint fjord]

i.e you may need to calculate in advance how long each stage would theoretically take given your growth formulas

and then playtest it

[peak sequoia]

Oh that would be tough and challenging

[mint fjord]

balance is a big subject. for what you're working with, just simply tweaking the variables until it feels right should suffice.

[peak sequoia]

I think I need sm1 to help

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[quiet kayak]

Test > result > is this what I like > if no then change > repeat

[peak sequoia]

Ok ty guys

It helped me a lot

Now i got an idea

[compact quarry]

im saying it would work better if the sight wasnt a detection based on how close the player is but rather if the ghost had to actually see the player

[mint fjord]

you get similar questions when balancing guns for example, balancing damage to fire rate to accuracy to magazine size and reload time, all that, it simply takes time.

[peak sequoia]

🙂 precisely

[mint fjord]

like you might balance all guns to have similar dps based on damage and fire rate, test it, then tweak according to effective dps like accounting for accuracy

[peak sequoia]

Ok ty

Bye guys

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