#💡 remove the "you must state a minimum payment of 500 robux", instead make it that payment HAS to...
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so basically make it so you dont have to put the payment on the hiring post?
ew ew ew
how will i immediately know if its worth the effort then
The payment has to be included just not directly on the post itself
It can be a redirect to dms or discord servers
Im not saying "dont list the payment at all" its just allowing more flexibility to those who have specific payments or dont wanna make massive posts [because people dont read]
Its a small change that will benefit many people yet change very little in the posting system
Most people will still list their payment either way
Regardless of the change
On the post itself
@soft vigil
but then id have to waste time finding out the payment
most people want to know the payment immediately without having to do further checks
You still do check regardless
Is payment the very first thing u discuss when hiring others???
What about what u want made
Deadlines and so on
U check payment in dms either way
@soft vigil
payment is the most important part
im sure most people would rather immediately know how much the payment is than have to check later on
cuz what if the hirer isnt online
id have to wait potentially several hours just to find out the payment
If the hirer isnt onlime
big nono
U still wont know
Bro how does payment matter with the hirer being online or not are we fr
cuz you just said discussing it in dms
And ur specifically talking about dms
I for example have all my payments listed in my port
And how i work too
Its a big post and wont fit here
And people dont read
9/10 of my dms with a big post are people not reading anything
Its annoying to have to deal with these people
Most people will still list their payment in the post anyway
I just dont wanna be warned every time every time i post saying "details about how i work in my portfolio"
Its genuinely annoying
If i put price ranges ill have mfs saying "omg make 500 models for 6k robux pls"
I have to every single time deal with these ppl
But when i tell ppl to read everything and have a small post i run into these issues way less
@soft vigil
I keep having my posts deleted even tho my payment is listed just not on the post directly
And i wanna change it
nobody will search through links and servers and shit to find how much u paying
real
This is a terrible suggestion and when you get older you'll understand why, or if you're already old, shame on you
why do people join portfolios then ?
why do most people still list only % payment then if its against the rules
why do so many people say "payment discussed in dms"
clearly shows that many people are not happy with this system
@wary hull i cant tell if ur ragebaiting
0 reason provided for why its terrible and then the first thing ur talking about is my age
most people have payments below 500 robux
ive seen commissions for as low as 100 robux happen
but we get warned
why ??
most people that downvoted this didnt even think forward and just clicked on it by reflex because "yes"
and u dont have to search its literally in dms or the guy's personal server
yall are acting as if u urself dont know that 90 % of the people here are not capable of reading posts
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then dont use it if its such a big problem for you not paying child labor wages
i certainly know i wouldnt dm some rando how much hes paying cuz its 99% that hell say "10 robux yearly"
even if ur offer was good
i still dont see why you have an issue with listing an estimate
would you work for $0.35 per project?
you either seriously undervalue yourself or you genuinely pay slavery wages
also wdym by "posts less confusing"? this is more confusing
if u say ur paying $100 then ur paying $100
its immediately clear
opposite of confusing
and eyeball wasnt ragebaiting, he was right. youre probably still a kid so you find 10 bucks to be a ton, but we dont
"he was right"
theres plenty of "kids" here that find "10 bucks to be a ton"
and they want stuff done for themselves
thats why i have cheap prices
i work to improve not to gain
not per project but for an easy model yes absolutely
i take robux only
so yall just value instant prices over actually negotiating and seeing how things work out
insane
ur acting as if this change is gonna make everyone never list prices on the posts again and always list below 500 robux
which honestly is already happening half the time
ur acting like u can find actual big commissions on this server
in the hiring section or by putting urself for hire
i have an issue with listing an estimate because if i make big posts nobody reads and if i put prices in a small post almost everyone in my dms is like "can u make 500 models for 6k robux pls"
people dont read big posts at all
i dont know if im unlucky like that and its happening only to me
but from my experience
having my prices listed in my portfolio and other things in details
i have a post in my portfolio that wont even fit in the for hire section
i just made a short post and said "if u look forward to hire me please read everything in the portfolio"
and im getting warned for "not listing a price range"
even though i did in there
and everyone who ive worked with so far had no issues with me of any kind and all of my customers were super happy
this way i filtered ppl who just waste my time from ppl who actually wanna do commissions
ur saying "u find 10 bucks to be a ton but we dont" as if the minimum of this server is a lot for u to begin with
u probably ignore 99 % of the posts that have like less than 20$ payment
which is way WAY more than the 500 robux minimum
so why would that bother you ?
on the other hand we would have the "kids" that you mentioned be able to commission between each other way easier
you can negotiate in dms all you want...
but letting people go under 1 fucking dollar and some cents is crazy
then write the price..? i dont see how 1 number is such a big deal
we arent gonna support such an underpay
wheres the limit? 1 robuck
5 robux? 10?
its a game development commission...
game development is a serious field not some childrens playground
long term commissions often go to thousands of dollars weekly for scripting for example
so you saying 500 robux is too much is wild
and saying that adding "500 robux" will make your post unreadable is also completely nonsensical
and this isnt about me. this is about the fact 35 cents is objectively nothing
you cannot buy a bottle of water with that
if u cant spare less than 2 fucking dollars for a game then its not gonna work out when you need hundreds for advertisement alone
ideally a few thousand
USD not robux
orrr a couple million robux
limit 100 or 200 robux
yes no one is touching those
nothing is happening to them
they will still be there just as usual
not everyone is always making full big games
theres people commissioning ugcs for themselves
its not unreadable if i value something less than 500 robux for the bare minimum i cant place it here otherwise im gonna get warned
i wont charge 500 for a colorful sphere for example
that someone desperately wants on their avatar
theres people here who buy robux
and 500 is a lot
i highly doubt u find big serious commissions here
i myself check the hiring section and for hire almost every day
i never see such big numbers appear in this server
ur acting as if u ever accept 500 robux commissions
this literally doesnt bother u
i dont understand ur issue with this
and i highly doubt anyone in the hiring section would say "paying 2k usd for this commission"
because they would have their dms flooded HEAVILY by every single newbie
they discuss payment in dms
which leads back to my point again
we should be allowed to discuss payment in dms
and other times there might be details that would be too confusing or too much to list in a hiring post
my point is payment is still included
it can be a redirect to dms
someone's personal discord server and/or portfolio
and so on
no ones talking about cookie log or phishing links here
payment still has to be there its just lowering the limit and allowing the post to redirect the conversation for payment details
that we are already a joke with the low prices
100 robux is literally nothing
other servers have even higher minimums
its just not happening bro and ppl voted against it too
"ppl vote against it" u eyeball and kyo downvoted it only it had 4 upvotes at first
the rest of the upvotes just decided to switch teams
and the rest dont even read they just downvote rq and continue scrolling cuz a 1:9 ratio
u and eyeball are millionaires by some miracle
and kyo has no attention span to negotiate or read
bro really said "ew ew ew how will i immediately know it if its worth it or not"
as if bro doesnt discuss payment at all in dms
if ur against low prices then make a suggestion to have higher minimum prices
its not like it will affect any actual dev
it will just make the lives of "kids" worse
we are adults
not millionaires
and youre in a game development server, why should we tailor it towards underage kids
in the marketplace at least
i understand that not everyone has the same amount of money but unfortunately nothing will change the fact game dev is expensive
discussing payment in dms and not seeing any payment is way different
you should always discuss payment, doesnt mean you shouldnt state it
look
in the suggestion i said "payment HAS to be included, just not directly on the post all the time"
if you dont state your payment and youre hiring, should i expect $1 from you? or 10 or 100 or 1000?
so then its not included
the post is the only place where it matters
cuz thats the only place people see initially
you check price first and then you check a portfolio
not the other way around
at least if you have basic time managenent skills you do it that way
you dont
reading messages is much faster than clicking on links, letting it load, clicking and scrolling through a whole website
well i have issues with it
while youre acting like putting literally one number will kill you
when i put a price range on my post i have people asking for bulk models within the price range
if i put details nobody reads
look, you just add $5/hr for example
and when i redirect it to my portfolio everyone reads and everyones happy
5 letters
you dont want to work with people who cant read
and if i get dmd by the people who cant read ALL THE TIME?
youre asking for too little money then
where do you even find people who are willing to give more than 1000 robux per commision
you can find people paying more than that number in usd
its networking, good portfolio, having a reputation etc
i never see the entrance to these places even relatively close
well in this server specifically getting rank 3+ helps
cuz people treat you seriously
its like all the good teams already have their people and dont need anyone new
youll talk to other expert devs who know managers
thats not true at all
yeah and m2 is a joke then ?
well rank 2 means youre okay at what you do
but being okay wont cut it if u want to make serious money
im just mad that i keep getting fucked over on my comms and regret even posting them and when i try to do something to at least make my situation better i get warned
good thing is that while youre working for less money rn, you are moving towards m3
i want to improve
i keep getting commissions on items i either cant make
you already are if youre doing comms
or items completely unrelated to what im tryna do
you dont need to accept them
you can also make a project for yourself if you have ideas
well if i were to decline them id have a grand total of 0 commissions for a whole month
in programming its probably easier to do this ill admit
i have plenty of ideas and cashgrabs that would 100 % succeed
because a lot of it is theory
ive been analyzing roblox studio and how stuff works
checking things behind the scenes
for 2 years now
i dont have the team nor the skill to make such things
im burnt out from everything
having your own games is a huge plus on a portfolio btw
or at least being a lead dev
shows you can work in a team
i tried eliminating literally every possible risk factor on my cashgrab ideas
take a break then
but i have to beg chatgpt to carry me through the scripting
pressured irl and online to keep going
thats not a good idea
chatgpt works by probabilities literally
thats the thing that got me the most success so far
it picks the next word based on a weighed probability, its random
i at least got something working
ive tried hiring people from this server
ive had 10+ scripters that did absolutely nothing
well it works but not well, at all
10 bucks is a lot bro
i think most of us switched teams because we realized what you were talking about
Theres not a single person here that doesnt discuss payment in dms
If u really understood what im talking about u would upvote
Because theres NO WAY this is a "bad suggestion"
again discussing payment in dms and stating it in your post are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT things
listing a price in your post doesnt mean you cant discuss it in dms
Im not saying switch the entire payment system im saying allow those who want to discuss it in dms to be an option
it never implies it and it never will
its an option if you list the price too....
u arent listening
I dont want to list the price because if its too much people dont read and if its too little i get dmd with misunderstandings and confusions
Its an annoying waste of time
well then say ur actual price lol
I do and i get dmd with confusions
better than nothing
anyways this is pointless
i give up
u wont realize its a bad suggestion no matter how many ppl tell you
i actuallly agree with this