Lua OOP

[severe girder]

Do you guys recommed usong a OOP style coding or just single script with use of modules coding?

Tag me for any guidance

[drowsy mist]

depends

[severe girder]

I meant for a well structured game, OOP is something i would always recommend

But idk for Lua

[eager arrow]

i use OOP everywhere, but it depends like he said

[upbeat snow]

** You are now Level 2! **

[dreamy patrol]

well dont use it if you dont need to

cop is good for bigger games

[severe girder]

I get it for the depends but for overall use it is recommeded.

For playerdata saving it would also be recommended

I would guess

[eager arrow]

i use OOP only for system, like combat system, or other system, but if it for dataStore i use community lib, like ProfileStore (it's just a exemple)

[severe girder]

i see i should start to look more into lib's always was using my own

Creating my own storage system

[limber socket]

profile store mentioned 🔥

[limber socket]

datastore - profile store
signals - lemon signal (bindable events are ass)

you can use zoneplus if you dont want to write a spatial query

[severe girder]

Do you also have a good site or somewhere i can buy vector icons?

[eager arrow]

🔥

[severe girder]

I found a site but they require a licence after buying it, found it a bit scummy

[eager arrow]

you talk about parcel?

ah my bad

[severe girder]

No like the icons for rebirths etc

Money, Gems, Shop, ..

[eager arrow]

there are free pack for icon like this, like icon for simulator

[severe girder]

Thank you for the help, didnt really think that OOP was used in LUA

[eager arrow]

OOP is EVERYWHERE!!! x)

[severe girder]

Yes but i rather found them really small file size or they are just 1 style

Thats why i tried to find some paid ones, might offer some variety

[eager arrow]

sorry i can't help you on that, i don't know many market website

[severe girder]

When i first started to script on lua i couldn't comprehend that you dont need a main

That was so confusing for me

That it has multiple entry points instead of the normal 1

[eager arrow]

one moduleScript is for one thing about a system, and you need a loader because with all the module that was create for one thing will be regrouped in the loader to create the main behavior

did you get it? i mean did you understand what i said?

[severe girder]

Yeah i got what you mean, but i mean that in Java you have to call the data to 1 entry point whilst in studio you can call you data anywhere in any script

[eager arrow]

because moduleScript was made to be shared everywhere, like for global variable or global table

[severe girder]

i meant hat you dont need a

public static void main(String[] args)
{

}

[severe girder]

Yeah that was confusing when i first started scripting

[eager arrow]

but now you know how to use it right or you are still a bit confused?

[severe girder]

Nooo i was never confused it was just weird in the first day or two

This is my first week scripting but i have experience in C, C#, Java, ...

I was only confused about the OOP part if it was used

[eager arrow]

lua is very easy to learn since is the easiest language x)

if you know C++, it'll be very easy for you

[severe girder]

i find lua very lazy

hahah

It was only weird because i am used to singleplayer coding, now i have to combine the server & client part and beaware that hackers can access certain parts

[eager arrow]

if you want a typecheck like C++

just put this in the first line of your script
--!strict
it will check every type of everything

[upbeat snow]

** You are now Level 3! **

[eager arrow]

just when you do critical system, do EVERYTHING on server-side and add sanity check on server-side script

only give the neccesry to the client

[severe girder]

Yes, do you also spam remote events? or are there better ways to connect server-client

[upbeat snow]

** You are now Level 2! **

[severe girder]

Like how i update my gui with server-client i spam remoteevents

function PlayerStatsManager.SetMoney(player, amount)
    local stats = PlayerStatsManager.GetPlayer(player)
    if not stats then return end
    stats.Money = amount
    UpdateMoneyEvent:FireClient(player, amount)
end

function PlayerStatsManager.SetRebirths(player, amount)
    local stats = PlayerStatsManager.GetPlayer(player)
    if not stats then return end
    stats.Rebirths = amount
    UpdateRebirthsEvent:FireClient(player, amount)
end

function PlayerStatsManager.SetHighscore(player, amount)
    local stats = PlayerStatsManager.GetPlayer(player)
    if not stats then return end
    stats.Highscore = amount
    UpdateHighscoreEvent:FireClient(player, amount)
end

Like litteraly i spammed it here.

[eager arrow]

yeah remoteEvent is the only way to send information to client or server, but i use community lib to protect my remoteEvent, i use type remoteEvent or other lib that secure my script, sometime i encrpyt the data before sending it to the client

remoteEvents is the main target for hacker so be sure to add sanity check

[severe girder]

So it isnt really onorthodox how i did it here

Because they are in the replicated storage?

sometime i encrpyt the data before

Damn that is actually insane hahah

I never protected my remote events before i will make sure to do that

[eager arrow]

ReplicatedStorage is for client and server but serverStorage is for server only (that why you can't get object in serverStorage from localscript)

sorry my wifi got disconnected x)

[eager arrow]

remoteEvent is literaly a backdoor for any Hacker

if you don't protect it

[severe girder]

So i understood there is no-way that a hacker can acces anything server-side, only client-side so ill have to protect everythat that touches client side

[warm cloak]

Btw if you do PlayerStatsManager:SetHighscore you could use self:GetPlayer()

[eager arrow]

yes, hacker can ONLY acces to client-side, but they can do server-side thing with remoteEvent so be sure to protect it, i really mean it

[severe girder]

Alright so Community lib is recommended by you?

[eager arrow]

i mean i use it because is useful but you can still use yours

[plain valve]

Do you have advice on protecting them? Cuz if im not able to trust the client how could I know for example either where the player is or idk just some other optimal info on client

[severe girder]

I mean ill start by doing that sanity check

and making my own first before using a lib

that will make me understand more what the lib will do

[eager arrow]

add sanity check on server-side
imagine if you are sending player position with remoteEvent, on the server-side you'll check if the position you received is the same on server-side

(it's just a exemple)

but ALWAYS add sanity check on your server-side script

[plain valve]

hmm

not sure abt that

that the problem

when the client send me his position

and I verify the position of the client ON the server, well there is latency, because client movement are being replicated to the server, id say a huge latency

so the player position on server is not the same as client

[eager arrow]

that was just a exemple, i'll do it with a another exemple wait

[plain valve]

I see, but sanity checks is like verify the type of something ? like : if type .. == "string" ... ?

[eager arrow]

function text.new(player)

  local self = setmetatable({}, test)

  self.Owner = player

  RemoteEvent.OnServerEvent:Connect(function(Player))
    if self.Owner ~= Player then return end -- Sanity Check
    ...
  end

  return self

end

[eager arrow]

no just add "if" not type, on the exemple i made it's a sanity check

[plain valve]

I see

but so in the case you need the client position

how do you do

like his hrp position for example

[eager arrow]

always get the position from server-side, if it's something critical

or make your system to be use only by the server

[severe girder]

I see so that the client can onl be used " Want that information"

[eager arrow]

the only thing i really don't know how to check is the Camera Position, you can't tell if the position of the camera you send with the remoteEvent is a real position, because on server-side you can't get the camera position, so my idea is to check if the position i got is not too far from the player character

[plain valve]

ig then I should probably predict it if i had to get the pos on server side but idk

[eager arrow]

yes

[plain valve]

for example, and its in that kind of situation that makes it hard to counter exploiters

[eager arrow]

the information you send to the client should be for something soft, not something critical like Attack damage

[severe girder]

i mean exploiters will always find a way

to exploit

[eager arrow]

it depend on the siuation but yeah

[eager arrow]

yeah always but roblox add security too, recently roblox added "server priority"

idk if it's the right name

[plain valve]

what this is doing ? do you have a link?

[eager arrow]

okay wait

[severe girder]

Idk how hacking/exploiting works in roblox, i am fairly new to roblox coding. Why do you need a player's position? Might sound a dumb question, but don't the exploiter have a kind of GUI (never saw an exploiter lol)

so very new information

[eager arrow]

sorry i can't find it but roblox annouced that on their youtube live

[eager arrow]

you don't need a gui or anything to hack, i was a exploiter myself

[plain valve]

Oh okk, np

[eager arrow]

exploiter have only acces to client, but they can find backdoor using remoteEvent

[plain valve]

you can create your own local scripts and reload them

[plain valve]

wait btw

exploiters can load their local scripts faster then the game local scripts?

[eager arrow]

they use executor that create a fake environement of roblox and send the code through the memory of roblox using C++, like with .dll file

[eager arrow]

no, there are always a delay before the code got executed (depends on the executor)

[plain valve]

ohh kk

[severe girder]

I see so they do not have a certain position

[eager arrow]

but with byfont (the roblox anti-cheat) they get caugh because byfont check if any extern script use "ReadMemory" function on roblox's memory

or any kernel function to get acces to the memory

[severe girder]

its kind of facinating how deep exploiters will go for some gems and money

[eager arrow]

yeah lol x)

[upbeat snow]

** You are now Level 4! **

[severe girder]

😂

On minecraft my first project was a ip grabber 😂

[eager arrow]

i have a friend, his hobby is to make cheat on ANY game x)

[plain valve]

I means its not hard to use an exploit, however its prob hard to create one

[eager arrow]

yeah is really hard

but on some game is literaly too easy

just use a kernel function and the game won't even detect x)

CSGO don't even try to make a anti-cheat lol

[severe girder]

I mean it is very fun to see how kids are just downloading any exploit from the internet and not expecting any trojan's or malware's

like it is so stupid, you download it from someone that creates them

[eager arrow]

recently volcano got exposed because it active your camera lol

[severe girder]

too bad i dont have a camera 😂

[plain valve]

playing game is addictive, you always want more and more, thats why people pay real money for some "gems or money" in a game, and thats also why some kids risks downloading exploits

atleast ig

but ye you right

most exploits prob kills your pc lol

[severe girder]

I mean more advanced exploiters will make u botnet slave

[upbeat snow]

** You are now Level 3! **

[severe girder]

Instad of a trojan

or a miner

[eager arrow]

botnet is not that easy lol

[severe girder]

Yes, but i think that would be one of the better ways to use another one's computer.

DDossing can still cause mayor damage

[eager arrow]

i need help for my portfolio, what can i add? (it's snow particule in the background)

(Pufferfish is my main account)

[severe girder]

Tbh there is a reason why i am searching for vector icon's and GUI idea's 😂

[eager arrow]

nah x)

[severe girder]

hmm

i mean

might be a bit of a stretch, but you could make the stars interactivee

for example if you move to the right the backgrounds shifts slightly ass well

[plain valve]

Thats cool, do you plan to change the font of the text, or put an outline on particules or idk?

[eager arrow]

it'll take so much CPU x)

[eager arrow]

it's just a sketch but yeah, i really need idea for my website

[eager arrow]

oh okay

[severe girder]

Not every indevidual star, that would be too much

but i think you can still make it nice if you integrate a black background and stars on top

and make it shift in a group

like with an animation style it could make it smooth

[eager arrow]

bro english is so hard, i try to understand what you are saying lol

[eager arrow]

wdym?

[severe girder]

wait nevermind that idea i gave you

thats good enough

i thought it was a fixed bg

[eager arrow]

actually the current version is looking like this

https://killianpgt.github.io/

it's so empty and i put some bad system 🙁

(is a model 3D and not a gif/video)

[severe girder]

i mean the idea isn't bad but its indeed just empty

[eager arrow]

so that why i'm working on a V2

[severe girder]

most people that i know have an empty site because they are very bad in frontend

maybe use figma and just see what yo ucan do

[eager arrow]

frontend is not my speciality lol

[severe girder]

instead of trying to invent, just try it there

[eager arrow]

i use figma only for logo or minia on youtube x)

[severe girder]

When i was creating my own website i also did it in figma

Yeah it is also good for frontend

like really good

it also gives the correct dimentions and if it is absolute etc

[eager arrow]

recently i lost my USB, inside that USB there we're all my script, C++, lua, python, etc... i lost everything 😭

[severe girder]

Exactly why i will never use a USB

I use a drive and in a couple of months i will use a Server

[eager arrow]

but my pc storage is limited to 50gb, window take too much 😭

[severe girder]

i will use my old computer insert proxmox (for VM), and use teamviewer

for remote acces

instead of downloading some sketchy or paid version for remote

[severe girder]

You have a trash pc haha

or have downloaded too much

[eager arrow]

you don't know how much i optimized my pc 💀 , a while ago i optimized too much my pc and i broke my wifi card x)

my pc still freeze on opera GX

[severe girder]

Btw if you space out your website like this it would feel less empty

imagine if the text were images

[eager arrow]

yeah, on the V2 i'll put the text on the center

[severe girder]

Like you have the Title on top, maybe a nice looking icon like you have right now and having a info tab under it

Or what you also can do is make it so that the whole square (ex: Mini Map 3D) covers the width of the container and when you hover there comes up and info bar under it with the informatio nyou have

[eager arrow]

you mean, you want my website to be responsiveness?

[upbeat snow]

** You are now Level 5! **

[severe girder]

your website has te be responsive

In the responsive that a even a phone can look at it

[severe girder]

those were just idea's it isn't far away from what you have right now, just a width change and a hoverable script

[eager arrow]

reponsiveness is so hard, i'm still learning

[severe girder]

Alright

[eager arrow]

AYOO i finaly got the level to put message in for-fire channel

[severe girder]

@media screen and (min-width: 769px) {
    /* STYLES HERE */
}

@media screen and (min-device-width: 481px) and (max-device-width: 768px) { 
    /* STYLES HERE */
}

@media only screen and (max-device-width: 480px) {
    /* STYLES HERE */
}```

Example this is basic responsiveness. When you your device hits a certain width it connects to that query

If you do not have any css in that query nothing of css will show up

BUT with what i mean you dont need responsiveness added. If you make your box container max-width it will automaticly be responsive

to any device

[eager arrow]

all the logo i made for each system i made

[severe girder]

I would refrain from using width: ..px, in the long run you would run into responsive ness issues because your width size never updates

[upbeat snow]

** You are now Level 4! **

[eager arrow]

oh okay i see

[severe girder]

What i said shouldn't be much of a challange. Just make sure you use containers to put your html in

[eager arrow]

okay, tysm !

[severe girder]

<!DOCTYPE html>
<html lang="en">
<head>
    <meta charset="UTF-8">
    <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0">
    <title>Two-Column Layout</title>
    <style>
        body {
            margin: 0;
            font-family: Arial, sans-serif;
            display: flex;
            height: 100vh;
        }

        #Leftside-container {
            width: 250px;
            background-color: #2c3e50;
            color: white;
            padding: 20px;
            box-sizing: border-box;
        }

        #middlescreen-container {
            flex: 1; 
            background-color: #ecf0f1;
            padding: 20px;
            box-sizing: border-box;
        }

        h2 {
            margin-top: 0;
        }
    </style>
</head>
<body>
    <div id="Leftside-container">
        <h2>Left Side</h2>
        <p>Navigation or sidebar content goes here.</p>
    </div>

    <div id="middlescreen-container">
        <h2>Middle Screen</h2>
        <p>Main content goes here.</p>
    </div>
</body>
</html>

Example here is that you create containers and 1 container has indeed a width. But container "middlescreen-container" has flex 1 which means that he will take the remaining space. For to make it responsive you will juse have to update the html<div id="Leftside-container"> pixel width.

[eager arrow]

ohh okay, i understand now

[severe girder]

You can add a box

.box {
            background-color: white;
            padding: 20px;
            flex: 1 1 200px; 
            box-sizing: border-box;
            border-radius: 8px;
            box-shadow: 0 2px 5px rgba(0,0,0,0.1);
        }```

where the flex would show width grows, minimum 200px 

i know i am over explaining a bit

[eager arrow]

what is only screen ?

[severe girder]

that it targers moniters, phones, tables everything with a screen

[eager arrow]

oh okay

[severe girder]

You can all so use " @media all { ... } -> hits up all devices", "@media print { ... } -> only when a page is in print view"

but i never used those

i only have used screen

[eager arrow]

since i'm suing tailwindCSS, i just have to do ?

@media screen and ... {
  -- width: ...
  -- height: ...
}

[severe girder]

Btw Flex-box is a super nice way to learn to css

https://www.w3schools.com/css/css3_flexbox.asp

Use this to learn flex. It is prob the most easiest way to make things automaticly response

I am not a Front-end expert but i have made some sites for school

[severe girder]

I never used tailwind or anything, always had to use the basic, i didn't even knew there were specific css types lol

[eager arrow]

thanks you

[severe girder]

You can also use Grid boxes

[eager arrow]

lol, tailwindCSS is so much more easy and i'm using NextJS so i can put global CSS for any pages i want

[severe girder]

everything i learned is on that site just scroll a bit and you will find examples

[severe girder]

We had to use float for my first project that was a disaster

never use that lol

so useless

[eager arrow]

what is float ?

[severe girder]

flexbox is so much easier

[eager arrow]

ohh floatt x)

[severe girder]

it is also used for positioning and formatting

but it is like a bit of a stertch for certain things

you will eventually run into problems with positioning something

it might be usefull for having boxes next-to each other

like a list

but that is it i think

[eager arrow]

i have a friend, he's very good at everything, so he can help me making my website

[severe girder]

i mostly use AI

that is my best friend

I would not recommend it for beginners in a certain coding language

but if you understand what you are doing i dont have a problem with using it tbh

[eager arrow]

i restraint myself from using AI x) i want to learn by myself even if it take much longer

[severe girder]

i cannot restrain my self, i am so addicted to AI

[eager arrow]

i was but now i stopped (still a little bit) using it :)

[severe girder]

i swtiched mayor's now i will try to refrain my self from using it

especially with c or scriping in linux

[eager arrow]

you are using C for what?

[severe girder]

ehh fundamentals, prob later we will use arduino ig

[eager arrow]

ohh cool, i want to do the same but don't have any money to buy chip :(

[severe girder]

I have created a whole game with arduino i wanted to end it right there

[eager arrow]

so i use C++ for creating cheat for fun

[severe girder]

it cost like 12 eur

or sum

nvm

30

https://www.kiwi-electronics.com/nl/arduino-uno-rev3-atmega328-729?country=BE&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19763228850&gbraid=0AAAAADuMvud0GoirbN8GpQL3CadMTR1jt&gclid=Cj0KCQjwxL7GBhDXARIsAGOcmIPMLMnG6kOWKK2t-iCxqlzMTcewiEvtT8JdVwYy814GFx4Fbv_lzxsaAic2EALw_wcB

[eager arrow]

i have money but it's just i don't have any coms, it's been one week i don't get any com now, it make me less motivated but i keep going, i keep trying

[severe girder]

but you still need to buy a display etc

it is not easy

That is something i can tel lyou because you directly talk with the memory

call the registers etc

[eager arrow]

oh cool

[severe girder]

i didnt have any fun with that

[eager arrow]

lol

[severe girder]

like i had sleepless nights because i couldn't figure out the frequency of a sound

or that it didn't wanted to save my action for some reason

[eager arrow]

arduirno is really hard?

[severe girder]

it depends tbh

if you want to learn it you prob have more fun to f around with it

[upbeat snow]

** You are now Level 5! **

[severe girder]

but we just had to create a game with it and that was my only goal to finish that task

[eager arrow]

i think i'll stay on C++ it's better

[severe girder]

yeah but with C you can do more indept

For optimizing it is better to go to C, because you can directly acces the registry etc

on arduino

[eager arrow]

people said C++ is the same as C but with typecheking

[severe girder]

on pc etc prob too

ig

i do not know the details

[eager arrow]

C++ is literaly the same as C but with typechecking and OOP

[severe girder]

Yeah the OOP is a big problem in C

[eager arrow]

but C is used to create lib for C++

[severe girder]

you have to use with Header files like in roblox studio

headfiles -> Module files

ig you can see them both as the same they both do nothing untill called for

[eager arrow]

yeah this is annoying

[severe girder]

And with C you have a very minimal lib

[eager arrow]

that why C++ is better :)

[severe girder]

But in C you can use Malloc and calloc, you can still use them in c++ but they arent recommended

i just read that

[eager arrow]

300 message x)

[severe girder]

ew ur french

[eager arrow]

yeah sorry

:(

[severe girder]

ur my arch enemy

i am from Belgium

[eager arrow]

lol

[severe girder]

napoleon did some damage

[eager arrow]

belgium refused chat control right?

[severe girder]

no clue

i think so

i read that

i was so flabberghasted

that they were allowing that

imagine my sentence would be, the amound of swat's i would have per day

[eager arrow]

if a hacker found a backdoor, they'll see EVERY message and that mean, secret message between hight grade people

[severe girder]

yeah that is true

Btw if you are intereseted about malloc and calloc:

Malloc is just a function that gives you a block of memoryu where you can store information. It might already contain information

Whist colloc: clears that block of information

[severe girder]

I am now mayoring in security and systems, so that would be a problem for me 😂

[eager arrow]

ohhh okay

[eager arrow]

lol x)

i'll go back scripting my tank system

[severe girder]

Goodluck is it like a war tank or what sort of a tank😂😂

[eager arrow]

model made by a friend

[severe girder]

Damn is that free

Or did u pay for it😂😂

[eager arrow]

the model are made by a friend and the system i'll sell it for 30-50k robux

[severe girder]

Damn

Idk even where to start with scripting that

[eager arrow]

lol, that why you should learn to use markdown

[severe girder]

Before i came into the server i thouhjt i was ready to take on servers😂😂

Projects*

[eager arrow]

before doing a system, you must already have a list in your head to know what you'll do

look, i'm using OOP for my tank system too :) (i'm just starting the script)

[severe girder]

Brodie readss that first line and wants a refubd😂😂😂😭

Yeah i see i am now creating a whole game where sphere are shooting out of a cylynder and you have to dodge it.

[eager arrow]

that all the parameter you can change on any tank

[severe girder]

Damnn

But how are you going to do the animations?

[eager arrow]

just moving each model or using tweenService

[severe girder]

I see and doing that in a 180 -180*

That wouldnt be that hard ig

[eager arrow]

yeah, i just need to put a global structure for every tank, so my system work with every tank and recognize every model and what they should do

[upbeat snow]

** You are now Level 6! **

[severe girder]

Yeah that is why i learned my friend software engeneering

It is so much easier if you have your code structured well

Does roblox also work with outside servers for Databases?

[eager arrow]

yeah, you can do request/POST/GET with httpsservice

[severe girder]

But wouldnt that be tracable

If not secured good

[severe girder]

Please get php out of my head

[eager arrow]

yeah is not very secure

[severe girder]

Nrver want to experience that again

[eager arrow]

but httpsservice can be very good, like using webhook, a while ago i made a lib to create a fully discord bot but coding with luau instead of javascript

took me alots of time

[severe girder]

You prob want to create your own encryptor

Damn

Thats insane

I am dedicated enough to code my game but not dedicated enough to build or gfx it

[eager arrow]

yeah that the main issue for every solo creator

[severe girder]

That is why i am searching for jobs to generate some robux

[eager arrow]

it's been one week i can't even find someone... it so demotivating

[severe girder]

I am prob going to join some discord servers and ask if they need scripters

Like players with 3-4k daily

But idk if tvey will accept me with my limited roblox studio knowledge, but maybe they can pardon it with my knowledge overall

[eager arrow]

you'll find out that being a roblox scipter is not that easy, you'll see people asking for system for only like 1K then the real price should be more than 10k

just a exemple, people think complexe combat system is only 5K but it's more than 15k, maybe i can be the wrong one, but since you are new, try to reach coms for review even it's not too worthy for you

[severe girder]

I mean its worth a try, it is very difficult for me to know what the mroce ranges are

[eager arrow]

and people scam alots, so there are multiple payement methode

50% at the start and 50% at the end
after completation
per-task
etc...

and be sure you do everyting in your OWN place

[severe girder]

Yeaj but i meant more like how much would that type of work be done. Like they could be offering 5k but it could be worth 10k

[eager arrow]

when you get a coms, do a markdown that will list every thing you'll do, if is easy then a bit of robux but if is complexe then the price will raise

but be sure when it's a big coms or complexe system, be sure to be more than 10K, and try if you can be paid per hour, the hour you put to finish the system will be the number of robux you get

do you understand?

[severe girder]

Yes i understand thanns

I think when i finish this game ill apply

I have allot to do yet

[eager arrow]

and be sure you have a portfolio or just image of past work you have

[severe girder]

Would you rzcommend posting your works to gitjub?

I mean why not ig

Thank you for all the help btw

[eager arrow]

np 🔥

[summer birch]

use OOP for systems that should be re-usable and have lots of use cases.